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Arrogant iPad 2 Commercial: "We Believe"

Now that Samsung is faster, thinner, and lighter than the ipad 2, apparently that doesn't matter to steve jobs any more.
Thoughts?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyEpaPEbjzI

Honestly, isn't it the case now that Jobs isn't spearing the marketing campaign anymore? The commercials lack the douchey weird quality that they had and now almost seem boring, cold. Maybe it's just me...
But yea, when one marketing strategy doesn't work you shift to another.

Ipad 2 strategy up to now has been mostly about speed, weight, size, and to a much lesser extent, apps. Now that the first three are not theirs for much longer, apple is doing damage control marketing to go back on what they said before... Speed, weight, and size are nice... But it's all about the apps... Standard apple douche move.
Sure it sounds bad, but I cannot wait for jobs to die. Then some of the dislike I have for apple might go... But I doubt it.

Haha well I don't Llke Steve jobs either but I don't really want him to die but to each their own I guess haha
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Bukem75 said:
Ipad 2 strategy up to now has been mostly about speed, weight, size, and to a much lesser extent, apps. Now that the first three are not theirs for much longer, apple is doing damage control marketing to go back on what they said before... Speed, weight, and size are nice... But it's all about the apps... Standard apple douche move.
Sure it sounds bad, but I cannot wait for jobs to die. Then some of the dislike I have for apple might go... But I doubt it.
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Are you serious right now? You want someone to drop dead because they know how to market their products properly? Apple is a business. Business is about money. If you have to bash your competition, and make your product seem like a god compared to all the others, you will do it. Hate him if you will, he knows what he is doing. He is a sleezy business man making millions with a cult like following for his brand. However, his attitude is a major flaw. He doesn't seem like the nicest of people.

Eclair~ said:
Are you serious right now? You want someone to drop dead because they know how to market their products properly? Apple is a business. Business is about money. If you have to bash your competition, and make your product seem like a god compared to all the others, you will do it. Hate him if you will, he knows what he is doing. He is a sleezy business man making millions with a cult like following for his brand. However, his attitude is a major flaw. He doesn't seem like the nicest of people.
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Yes, I think jobs is a prick and an elitist arsehole since I became aware of him in the 80ies. It's mostly his personality (snobbish commercials and lack of choice in hardware also) that keep me from giving apple a fair shake when evaluating their products. With him truly out of the picture... The choice in hardware is better...
Like you said, cult of personality. I can't stand cults

Isn't Jobs on medical leave still? Since I haven't read news about "OMG, Steve Jobs is now back and doing well again!" But then again, I don't know the process these big companies go through.

What apple has over any android tablet is availability here the the uk, you can walk into any electronics retailer and buy an ipad, but if you want an android tablet (example asus transformer, acer iconia which are both for sale) 'can i buy one today, over the counter'? no you'll have to order one which takes a week
What's the point of having electrical retailers that don't know what retail means?
The basics of supply and demand
If i wanted to buy online and wait a week i would buy from ebay

In here the Netherlands, you must wait a month to get an ipad2.
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What apple has over any android tablet is availability here the the uk, you can walk into any electronics retailer and buy an ipad, but if you want an android tablet (example asus transformer, acer iconia which are both for sale) 'can i buy one today, over the counter'? no you'll have to order one which takes a week
What's the point of having electrical retailers that don't know what retail means?
The basics of supply and demand
If i wanted to buy online and wait a week i would buy from ebay
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You can walk into pc world and buy an android tablet over the counter and buyitdirect sell them over the counter too. Including the acer iconia.
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Tyrian89 said:
You can walk into pc world and buy an android tablet over the counter and buyitdirect sell them over the counter too. Including the acer iconia.
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PC world have never heard of the Asus transformer, and the iconia is mail order only
Buyitdirect won't have the transformer until may.
On the television news today they're stating that retails sales are lowest for 11 months!! is it hardly surprising. If you read a review about something that's ****, and would spend twice the time being repaired than what you would using it, then we've got loads of those, but if you want something that's remotely decent we don't stock it in store.
Might as well live in outback Botswana

It may be going about it different but usually big corporations tend to try something new if the first doesnt work. I can't blame Steve Job...but then again I'm not a super hardcore wish someone dead for making a ipad commercial android fan.

You can get a vega, xoom and one or two other android tablets at pcworld.
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Ahaha, I love how apple, having nothing to show except scaled up iphone apps is forcing into the ad "medical professionals uses of the ipad".
Not only this looks elitist and even colder but it is also completly unappropriate for medical use. I do work into the field of radiology and hell a 1080* res screen is way way way too much fail to look at radios or CT scans. You'd have to zoom in all the time and miss the bigger picture. Another point is also that a iOS device cannot plug into a classic medical environment that is 99% of the times using windows computers or remote servers without even a WIFI connectivity for security reasons.
Too long didn't read : Apple ipad2 makes you a doctor and allows your spoiled children to draw numbers with their fingers while their brain and cerebellous white matter is wiring, so that obviously, they won't even be able to handle a pen later on. Technology is not enough, you just need the smug.

epicfailguy2 said:
Ahaha, I love how apple, having nothing to show except scaled up iphone apps is forcing into the ad "medical professionals uses of the ipad".
Not only this looks elitist and even colder but it is also completly unappropriate for medical use. I do work into the field of radiology and hell a 1080* res screen is way way way too much fail to look at radios or CT scans. You'd have to zoom in all the time and miss the bigger picture. Another point is also that a iOS device cannot plug into a classic medical environment that is 99% of the times using windows computers or remote servers without even a WIFI connectivity for security reasons.
Too long didn't read : Apple ipad2 makes you a doctor and allows your spoiled children to draw numbers with their fingers while their brain and cerebellous white matter is wiring, so that obviously, they won't even be able to handle a pen later on. Technology is not enough, you just need the smug.
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Yea the whole medical app thing is a bit comical to me. I guess it's nice to have, but so what? 99.9% of the people who own an iPad don't buy one for the functionality mentioned there. Apple touted "thinner, lighter, faster" until none of those were true anymore and now it's "all about the apps". Outside of Netflix, there's nothing that it has that I want.

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While I agree that the commercial is excessive, what marketing isn't. Let's keep it friendly in here, as many users here on XDA also happen to like iPads.

Bukem75 said:
Now that Samsung is faster, thinner, and lighter than the ipad 2, apparently that doesn't matter to steve jobs any more.
Thoughts?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyEpaPEbjzI
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Below is recent iPad 2 commercial from apple about how great there product is. It is half way down the page. You have to watch a 30 sec ad before the video plays.
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2381447,00.asp
Also below is a video that apple will be airing soon on there new product that is coming out later this year.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l24Sy4BWeOk

DensoYamaha41 said:
Below is recent iPad 2 commercial from apple about how great there product is. It is half way down the page. You have to watch a 30 sec ad before the video plays.
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2381447,00.asp
Also below is a video that apple will be airing soon on there new product that is coming out later this year.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l24Sy4BWeOk
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lol, awesome

Apples @ it again

Federal court is forcing samsung to handover all galaxy prototypes to apple
http://news.cnet.com/apple-forces-s...axy-prototypes/8301-17938_105-20065843-1.html

rofl, sore losers they are.
edit: regarding the 8.9 tab they probably want to know how they got it thinner than the ipad lol

Hahaha. Apple os is boring. Android rules.
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Its too late apple. You should of grown some balls WAY back in the garage days of apple and pc. Its too late now.
"42"

Apples sickens me. Douchebags that buy cheap hardware and labor from asia and sells it for insane prices (buying them on contract is better but in sweden we often just want to buy the phone). And clames they developed and done it all by them self.
Even ideas are taken from chines developers.

All modern 'smart' phones look similar to a degree. I just think crApple are wasting their own time and money with this and I hope the US courts get fed up quickly and file this in the bin.

ssserpentine said:
Its too late apple. You should of grown some balls WAY back in the garage days of apple and pc. Its too late now.
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Too late for what? They've surpassed Microsoft as the #1 tech company, I don't really see what's too late.
More practically, these little corporate games have been going on for so long over so little that I really couldn't care less either way. If Apple and Samsung are happy to chum the bottom feeders, good for them. I believe the saying that best describes the situation is "**** rolls downhill and then nothing happens". No loss here.

Funny thing Apple has already or in the process of signing a multi million contract with Samsung to mass produce all of their screens...lol newbcakes then they file a lawsuit. Steve_o and there newbcake law team must have forgot about the screen deal haha.
http://www.urbannews.biz/tech-news/...or-240-million-to-supply-ipad-display-screens
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robertsydbrink said:
Apples sickens me. Douchebags that buy cheap hardware and labor from asia and sells it for insane prices
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Like the 600 bucks you need to get yourself a 10" IPS iPad with 3g? As opposed to the apparently cheaper 7" 3G Galaxy tab that went for 800 bucks at launch? Considering the similar hardware?
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And now apple wants amoled screens ha
http://www.macworld.co.uk/business/news/index.cfm?newsid=3282274&olo=rss

markgamber said:
Too late for what? They've surpassed Microsoft as the #1 tech company, I don't really see what's too late.
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Just curious, by what metric do you believe this to be true? Do you have links? (non apple of course)
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mwilhelm said:
Just curious, by what metric do you believe this to be true? Do you have links? (non apple of course)
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I remember reading something about this over on Gizmodo, I think their stock price surpassed Microsoft, however I attempted to find the story, I was not able to find it.
I agree with you, Mircosoft is a much larger company. Apple may have beaten them in the Phone and MP3 market but they still rain supreme in the PC OS market.

I believe what is being referred to is Apple's Market Capitalization, which is basically share price * number of shares.
More info: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Market_capitalization
And indeed it seems to be the case that their market cap is now greater than Microsoft's, as Apple shares have experienced explosive growth since the recovery of the stock market a couple of years ago.

Galaxy Tab not selling so well.

http://www.itproportal.com/2011/09/...-figures-only-20k-sold-until-now-says-lenovo/
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To be honest with you, the pressure implied by Apple on Samsung's Tabs are making a serious blow to their reputation. You know that it might not be true but in consumers' eyes no one would generally opt for a product which has patent issues regardless of how good it is.
The reason TF being such a success is because it's a fresh, innovative idea which emerged into the market out of the blue with a solid spec sheet and an extremely attractive price tag for the mass.

Another example which illustrates that people just aren't look for android tablets. Especially not in the price range they are selling for.
I can't wait for the galaxy tab $99 fire sale! LOL

Also note that they are talking about last year, not the current galaxy tabs.

AustinMartin said:
Also note that they are talking about last year, not the current galaxy tabs.
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Strange that they`re showing a photo of the galaxy tab 10.1 with this story. Bit misleading.
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Well the TF still tops Android tablet sales so far.

ToonXW said:
Well the TF still tops Android tablet sales so far.
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That depends on if hackers can get Android fully working on the HP Touchpad... HP has sold more touchpads than transformers.
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EP2008 said:
That depends on if hackers can get Android fully working on the HP Touchpad... HP has sold more touchpads than transformers.
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Pre or post fire sale? Just about any major Android tablet selling for $99 would get such response. Transformer, Galaxy Tab, Iconia, etc.
So that's not really a valid comparison (at least in my opinion).

Even though the TF is an entirely fresh new idea with a very solid spec sheet, it's not making such a big splash in the media world. Most people don't know about it. Google isn't paying attention to it. Google's star product is the galaxy tab for whatever reason.
It's kinda sad, really, that such a fine product as is the TF is not being noticed that much.

EP2008 said:
That depends on if hackers can get Android fully working on the HP Touchpad... HP has sold more touchpads than transformers.
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Actually, I have to ask: where are you getting the information that HP sold more TouchPads than Asus has Transformers? I'd say HP sold a few hundred thousand TouchPads (say, 100K - 300K, MAYBE as many as 500K, but that's being really generous). There was the perception of really high sales, sure, but that comes from the hype generated by one of the stupidest decisions in modern marketing history.
Looking at Asus' shipping numbers and given that the Transformer is pretty much selling every bit of inventory they ship, I'd say they've sold at least 1 million Transformers. At a profitable price, I might add.
There's no way HP has sold more TouchPads.

Seems high to me but according to this article 800 to 900K Touchpads sold sold far. Another 100K in process.
http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20110901PD218.html

ExploreMN said:
Pre or post fire sale? Just about any major Android tablet selling for $99 would get such response. Transformer, Galaxy Tab, Iconia, etc.
So that's not really a valid comparison (at least in my opinion).
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There are MANY budget android tablets for under $150... their sales are terrible. People simply don't want android tablets - I'm talking "everyday people", not geeks. The sales of ipads should clearly illustate this as Apple can sell more ipads in a day than Android tablet manufacturers can sell in a quarter.
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Seems high to me but according to this article 800 to 900K Touchpads sold sold far. Another 100K in process.
http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20110901PD218.html
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Digitimes has never been a very credible source as far as I'm concerned... I just don't accept that this many TouchPads have been sold. Not that it matters if they did, it's just I don't buy it. I think we'd be seeing 100's of thousands of app downloads being trumpeted over at Precentral if that were the case.

EP2008 said:
There are MANY budget android tablets for under $150... their sales are terrible. People simply don't want android tablets - I'm talking "everyday people", not geeks. The sales of ipads should clearly illustate this as Apple can sell more ipads in a day than Android tablet manufacturers can sell in a quarter.
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Certainly, the iPad is a phenomenon. I don't consider it a case of a technology selling, but rather some kind of consumer cultural craze. The hype that Apple gets certainly helps, along with the constant meme that the iPad is the only device that's selling.
The latest Android numbers show about 2.5 million Honeycomb devices in service. This really isn't that bad when you consider how new Honeycomb is and how poorly priced the earliest Honeycomb tablets were. The Transformer was really the first device that was both compelling and priced correctly, and I think its sales show that.
If the tablet market is viable at all, I think we'll see Android tablets follow phones fairly quickly. If the tablet market is just a flash in the pan, then the iPad will eventually fall off as well. But it's still too early to make any sweeping generalizations about this market, and it drives me crazy when people do so. It's like they can't remember how Android was a minor player 18 months ago, and everyone was saying then about the iPhone what they're saying now about the iPad.

wynand32 said:
I think we'd be seeing 100's of thousands of app downloads being trumpeted over at Precentral if that were the case.
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Not true. I believe hp said that app downloads have increased 5x since the firesale, but you have to keep in mind that there was a survey done which apparently showed that most people download and use a very minimal amount of apps on their tablets... It was a crazy low number as far as I was concerned, but apparently, many people are happy just using stock apps. My wife has an android phone and she sticks to almost all stock apps... N00b! LOL

Gtab 10.1
I returned my Galaxy Tab the day Touchwiz rolled out and bought the Asus with dock instead. No regrets, though the Galaxy Tab 10.1 had a really wonderful official case which I miss.

EP2008 said:
There are MANY budget android tablets for under $150... their sales are terrible. People simply don't want android tablets - I'm talking "everyday people", not geeks.
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I have to strongly disagree with this. Have you seen, held or tried out these 100$-150$ android tablets?
No one wants one of these because they are ****. Like, ****.
Most, if not all have resistive touch screen with no multi touch, on-board memory from 128-256mb ram to maybe 2 gigs for storage, support for wifi b/g, 7-9 inch screen with a 800×380 to 800x480 res. 400hhz cpu's, many dont come with a expandable sd/micro sd slot, 1100mah batteries etc. The list goes on. Not to mention almost all of the 100$ tablets comes with 1.6
No one wants these things cause they all have the same specs as my HTC touch. The quality is sub par. It has nothing to do with them having the android OS on it.
I love android. I love my tablet, I love my phone. I wouldn't spend 99$ for one of those POS. Even "everyday people" have that much "know"
You take our tablet or a Samsung 10.1 and slap a 99$ price tag on it, and watch em fly off the shelves.

wynand32 said:
Digitimes has never been a very credible source as far as I'm concerned... I just don't accept that this many TouchPads have been sold. Not that it matters if they did, it's just I don't buy it. I think we'd be seeing 100's of thousands of app downloads being trumpeted over at Precentral if that were the case.
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Why do you think those numbers are unrealistic? Remember that they got those numbers from the fact that everywhere was sold out and we know how much stock people had. Where else would they be if they didn't get sold?
Also, the reason we're not seeing hundreds of thousands of app downloads is because people are waiting to port android over to the touchpad.

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I have to strongly disagree with this. Have you seen, held or tried out these 100$-150$ android tablets?
No one wants one of these because they are ****. Like, ****.
Most, if not all have resistive touch screen with no multi touch, on-board memory from 128-256mb ram to maybe 2 gigs for storage, support for wifi b/g, 7-9 inch screen with a 800×380 to 800x480 res. 400hhz cpu's, many dont come with a expandable sd/micro sd slot, 1100mah batteries etc. The list goes on. Not to mention almost all of the 100$ tablets comes with 1.6
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Yes, I've owned a few of them. Do you know what ereaders are good for, like the kindle? Reading books... that's pretty much all they do and they've sold WAY more than android tablets, often at a higher price. These $150 android devices do more than kindles, but people don't want them. They certainly perform better than the kindle, but Android hasn't taken off for them.
Perhaps it's all down to marketing? Who knows? But if Android tablet makers think they are going to sell Honeycomb tablets for $499+, they are completely out to lunch. When people are looking for a tablet, they say "I'm looking for an iPad" - that's a fact. Something has to change with the way Android tablets are promoted - maybe they need to hire apple guys?
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wynand32 said:
Certainly, the iPad is a phenomenon. I don't consider it a case of a technology selling, but rather some kind of consumer cultural craze. The hype that Apple gets certainly helps, along with the constant meme that the iPad is the only device that's selling.
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3 weeks ago, I was sitting on the train playing with my tablet when a man sat down next to me. He asked me if what I had was an ipad and I said no. Then he said, and I quote, "oh, you have an imitation".
First of all, I did not have my tablet inside a case or anything. I was playing galaxy on fire 2, and this thing looks nothing like an ipad or ipad 2.
But what really surprised me was how rude this gentleman was. He actually said I had an imitation.
With the billions of dollars apple is pumping into their ad campaign, people tend to only think the only "real" tablet is the ipad and ipad 2 and that everything else is a fake. And this atittude makes people so confident that this man actually said to a total stranger on the train "you have an imitation".
The latest Android numbers show about 2.5 million Honeycomb devices in service. This really isn't that bad when you consider how new Honeycomb is and how poorly priced the earliest Honeycomb tablets were. The Transformer was really the first device that was both compelling and priced correctly, and I think its sales show that.
If the tablet market is viable at all, I think we'll see Android tablets follow phones fairly quickly. If the tablet market is just a flash in the pan, then the iPad will eventually fall off as well. But it's still too early to make any sweeping generalizations about this market, and it drives me crazy when people do so. It's like they can't remember how Android was a minor player 18 months ago, and everyone was saying then about the iPhone what they're saying now about the iPad.
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Frankly, I'm surprised people aren't paying more attention to the transformer. It really is a solid device. The design is superb, if you ask me. And compared to the transformer, other android tablets (with the exception of the galaxy tab) feel like anchors.
The transformer really should get more attention than what it's getting now.

1.2m Transformers sold, ICS

http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20111031PD219.html
ICS coming to Transformer and Slider "early december". Asus have sold 1.2m Transformers since it launched in April, and are ontrack for 1.8m for the 3/4 of a year of 2011...
Not too shabby at all. Whilst all the media have been talking about Xoom and Tab, it seems consumers were actually buying Transformers....

well. Im one of those people. Jurt bought one and im very happy with. And was looking into xoom and tab.........but transformer caught my eye

Me too
I bought 2 of them. First one was a B80 and I really wanted to root it so I bought another one that is rootable. This one has the dock, which I bought with the first one. USB ports and another MicroSD slot. Gotta love all that extra space and I love extra options. Then, updated right away so the support is there. So I switch from my IPad 2 to my Transformer but only when the transformer is recharging. With the dock, I'm not on the I Pad very much at all any more. Can't wait for the Prime!!

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I bought 2 of them. First one was a B80 and I really wanted to root it so I bought another one that is rootable. This one has the dock, which I bought with the first one. USB ports and another MicroSD slot. Gotta love all that extra space and I love extra options. Then, updated right away so the support is there. So I switch from my IPad 2 to my Transformer but only when the transformer is recharging. With the dock, I'm not on the I Pad very much at all any more. Can't wait for the Prime!!
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Interesting. The numbers I read were 3.2 million total Honeycomb tablets. So Asus has over a 1/3 of the market? That makes the 3.2 number seem low. What about Zoom and Samsung? I wondering if the other 600k were going to be Prime's or if they plan on fire sale-ing the TF1 when the prime comes out. I've been shopping for sub $300 tablets for my wife. Current candidates are Fire, 80 G9, Ideatab A1. I would love to throw a Transformer into the mix (or give her mine and get a Prime ).

Why would anyone else wanna get the other tablets? Sounds like their companies don't give a crap about their customers.. hmm.

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Why would anyone else wanna get the other tablets? Sounds like their companies don't give a crap about their customers.. hmm.
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i kno, rite?
Seriously, ASUS has been rather on the ball with OS updates
Not to mention, the TF101 was cheaper, lol...

jeremyshaw said:
i kno, rite?
Seriously, ASUS has been rather on the ball with OS updates
Not to mention, the TF101 was cheaper, lol...
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This, and of course the screen is excellent as well...

Apple spends about a quarter of a billion each year on advertisement and public relations. If a company like asus wants to catch up, they really ought to spend more on ads and PR.

temporarily_insane said:
Apple spends about a quarter of a billion each year on advertisement and public relations. If a company like asus wants to catch up, they really ought to spend more on ads and PR.
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I don't think ASUS has any desire to "catch up with" Apple, nor any delusions that they could. In fact, that's what's stupid about the whole thing: no company NEEDS to sell as many tablets (or any other product, really) as the iPad 2--they only need to sell however many is necessary to get a return on their investment.
ASUS is clearly happy with the number of Transformers sold, or else they wouldn't be making such a huge push with the Transformer Prime. As long as they sell enough to keep making them, I'm happy.

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Apple spends about a quarter of a billion each year on advertisement and public relations. If a company like asus wants to catch up, they really ought to spend more on ads and PR.
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+1 on that.
Here in Holland I see Samsung doing a lot of ads.
Asus could sell more if the general public would be more aware of the Transformer.
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Bought one Slider for me, here in Brazil, asus doesn't make advertisement at all and it was really hard to find the tablet... found more often only iPads, Galaxy tabs 10.1 and 7 and xoom. Some time ago I found Transformer but didn't find the Keyboard, only in sites like "mercado livre" (Works like ebay)...

It's annoying that they don't advertise.
I use mine often for work and when traveling, and tech illiterates ask "hey, is that an iPad?". I explain mine is ASUS and runs Android, and they always reply "never heard of it", and look at me like I'm crazy for buying it. Then they tell me they're probably going to buy an iPad 2 for $700, despite not knowing what it does, what the differences are between tablets, and completely oblivious to $400-$500 tablets that are newer, more powerful, and expandable.
Not to mention, once ICS hits and merges Android phone and tablet software, Android devices will outsell Apple by the millions and devs will focus a lot more energy on Android tablet apps.

I just bought one too
The new prime's design isn't really to my liking. The price for a transformer now doesn't hurt too, it has dropped to a reasonable level. You prolly need to give prime some time to sort out the initial issues.

shawnc9 said:
The new prime's design isn't really to my liking. The price for a transformer now doesn't hurt too, it has dropped to a reasonable level. You prolly need to give prime some time to sort out the initial issues.
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A word to the wise, there are pros and cons with the "waiting" thing. Generally the new tech is jumped on right away by the geniuses that frequent here like hungry wolves. Once they crack and root a device, they move on to development. When the company patches the exploit, the intensity of finding a root solution precipitously dips and continues to do so with each iteration of hardware and software. (The companies fix the original exploit making it exponentially harder if not impossible to beat). If you are in the front door when the device hits, you will undoubtedly be able to root it, and it will stay that way for the life of the product. Just something to think about.

There are those of us who jump right in and get the latest tech and enjoy it and enjoy our lives immensely, and there are those of us who wait and wait and always do without on the chance that something better or cheaper will come out.
Those are the types that usually have nothing new and nothing to enjoy.
In my book your a long time dead so i am going to get whatever i can as soon as i can and have the pleasure of using it.
A friend of mine is earning over 40k a year yet always goes for a cheap option.
Now he's moaning that his tablet is not good for movies etc etc etc.
Should have stopped being such a tight arse and gone for the asus.

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Apple spends about a quarter of a billion each year on advertisement and public relations.
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That's only the tip of the iceberg, they can only talk about their legal/moral advertising.
Both Microsoft and Apple spend many more times that on less ethical forms of marketing, like:
Employing "gamers" to stand outside stores in midnight launches to "buy" consoles and games..
Employing armies of viral marketeers to monitor forums and blogs and praise/defend their employers products.
Holding blogs and news sites to ransom for good press with their advertising budgets
Inviting blogs and news sites to lavish launch parties, all expenses paid trips to Redmond/Cupertino, Free Xboxes at E3, free Acer Ferrari Laptop with Vista..

raze1000 said:
There are those of us who jump right in and get the latest tech and enjoy it and enjoy our lives immensely, and there are those of us who wait and wait and always do without on the chance that something better or cheaper will come out.
Those are the types that usually have nothing new and nothing to enjoy.
In my book your a long time dead so i am going to get whatever i can as soon as i can and have the pleasure of using it.
A friend of mine is earning over 40k a year yet always goes for a cheap option.
Now he's moaning that his tablet is not good for movies etc etc etc.
Should have stopped being such a tight arse and gone for the asus.
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Agreed, 100%. If I'm hit by a bus tomorrow, I don't want to think about all the things I never tried because I was waiting for something cheaper to come along.

chmilz said:
It's annoying that they don't advertise.
I use mine often for work and when traveling, and tech illiterates ask "hey, is that an iPad?". I explain mine is ASUS and runs Android, and they always reply "never heard of it", and look at me like I'm crazy for buying it. Then they tell me they're probably going to buy an iPad 2 for $700, despite not knowing what it does, what the differences are between tablets, and completely oblivious to $400-$500 tablets that are newer, more powerful, and expandable.
Not to mention, once ICS hits and merges Android phone and tablet software, Android devices will outsell Apple by the millions and devs will focus a lot more energy on Android tablet apps.
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haha, I just smile and say "no, you wouldn't have heard of it" and happily continue using it(and fire up wifikill app and block every apple device on the network for lulz)
Apple sheep... too many to deal with.

Love my Transformer; the dock makes it a sweet netbook, when I'm writing articles, too; If only Polaris had more word processor tools like spell check and word count, I would say it's perfect for my needs. As it stands though, I have VERY few complaints.

chatch15117 said:
haha, I just smile and say "no, you wouldn't have heard of it" and happily continue using it(and fire up wifikill app and block every apple device on the network for lulz)
Apple sheep... too many to deal with.
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Lol i must get that app!!!!
Usually when im asked i say when was the last time you saw a ipad2 with a keyboard dock and the same amount of ram as your netbook at home with 16hrs battery life????? (bombardment of questions usually follows)
Think ive converted a good 30 people since owning my tf
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Transformer wins Gadget of the year.

Beating iPad2.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-15559778
Braindead media experts are in shock that their beloved Apple did not win it.
However anyone with any sense already knew this. I mean the Transformer beats the iPad2 in every respect.
* 7x the camera megapixel count.
* 20% more screen resolution.
* USB2 ports
* Dock with double battery life
* Lower cost
A win for great technology over average technology and slick marketing.

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"Despite the iPad 2 being a finer tablet in the purest sense, the Asus Eee Pad Transformer offers so much more," Stuff's consulting editor, Simon Osborne-Walker, told the BBC.
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:/ ifag much?
but seriously the TF deserves it
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Asus is expected to launch a successor hybrid device within the coming weeks. Analysts say the new version is likely to include a faster processor and the latest version of Google's Android system.
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are these so called experts living under a rock or something?

I'd love for them to define how it's actually "finer tablet in the purest sense,"..
I mean if any other company launched a tablet with a main camera with a pathetic 700k pixel camera, when even cheapo smartphones have 5Mpixels camera, they would be absolutely slated.
It's a vicious cycle of course, all these "experts" only know iPad2, because they simply can't be bothered to look elsewhere (and many of them get complimentary review iPad2 units to keep, so why bother..), so just assume that it's the best because it's best selling, and it's best selling just cements that further...

well personally i find alot of apple customers to be borderline obsessed with apple products..... its kinda scary, the power that marketing has on people with weaker minds :/

The Asus Transformer has won Stuff Magazine's Gadget of the Year award beating the iPad 2
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-15559778
In reply to below. I checked before posting this. At the time this thread did not exist. We must have posted within minutes of each other. It happens. Millions of people in different time zones all with the power to press "Save"

Really dude. There is another thread one thread over from this one pertaining to this very thing. Please help keep the forum clean of endless, useless posts.

reaperzero said:
well personally i find alot of apple customers to be borderline obsessed with apple products..... its kinda scary, the power that marketing has on people with weaker minds :/
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No ****, I'm married to one. She won't even consider Android anything anymore. She has made it clear her next phone will be the iPhone 5 and we sold the iPad and she is using my Transformer and *****es about it EVERY SINGLE DAY demanding she get an iPad 2. Yet...one of the main things she wants to do is Skype (with family) which is much better on the Transformer due to the camera but she just doesn't get it. Oh, did I mention she has never even used an iPhone before, but she said she just knows its better...
So, in an effort to stave off a domestic violence situation and/or divorce...we are buying a stupid iPad 2 today.
I love her in every other way...but her understanding of technology is a disappointment. I guess no one is perfect...well...except us here in the forums.

ExploreMN said:
No ****, I'm married to one. She won't even consider Android anything anymore. She has made it clear her next phone will be the iPhone 5 and we sold the iPad and she is using my Transformer and *****es about it EVERY SINGLE DAY demanding she get an iPad 2. Yet...one of the main things she wants to do is Skype (with family) which is much better on the Transformer due to the camera but she just doesn't get it. Oh, did I mention she has never even used an iPhone before, but she said she just knows its better...
So, in an effort to stave off a domestic violence situation and/or divorce...we are buying a stupid iPad 2 today.
I love her in every other way...but her understanding of technology is a disappointment. I guess no one is perfect...well...except us here in the forums.
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hahaha ... LMAO xD
well i totally agree with ya dude .. well im new in TF family .. have ordered my TF will be getting it on the 26th or 27th of this month ..
well now adays what i've experianced is .. when i ever i see an Apple user and i take my Galaxy S i9000 out .. and we start the debate ... and after all humiliation to that apple user .. they say .. STFU Apple is Apple ..
lol .. no wards to say nything ... and that makes me rofl

ExploreMN said:
So, in an effort to stave off a domestic violence situation and/or divorce...we are buying a stupid iPad 2 today.
I love her in every other way...but her understanding of technology is a disappointment. I guess no one is perfect...well...except us here in the forums.
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Who will pay? If you then do not buy! Ask him why Apple is the best and if the answer is so foolish, he is a believer in Apple. Apple fan boys and girls are the worst. Android is in many ways better than iOS.

yay for competition driving market improvements!

PatrikSelin said:
Who will pay? If you then do not buy! Ask him why Apple is the best and if the answer is so foolish, he is a believer in Apple. Apple fan boys and girls are the worst. Android is in many ways better than iOS.
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True .....

ExploreMN said:
No ****, I'm married to one. She won't even consider Android anything anymore. She has made it clear her next phone will be the iPhone 5 and we sold the iPad and she is using my Transformer and *****es about it EVERY SINGLE DAY demanding she get an iPad 2. Yet...one of the main things she wants to do is Skype (with family) which is much better on the Transformer due to the camera but she just doesn't get it. Oh, did I mention she has never even used an iPhone before, but she said she just knows its better...
So, in an effort to stave off a domestic violence situation and/or divorce...we are buying a stupid iPad 2 today.
I love her in every other way...but her understanding of technology is a disappointment. I guess no one is perfect...well...except us here in the forums.
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My wife is the exact same!!!!!!
Except her drama is with an HTC Desire Z (she "had" to have a hard keyboard lol). Which although she has never had an iphone, claims it has no problems and would work perfectly unlike the daily rubbish desire Z lol
The TF gets the same abuse, never used an ipad but claims it would be better because Polaris office doesn't have a spell check (to be fair it is a bit annoying but hardly a reason to condemn an entire device to the bin lol - oh and the browser's quick controls confuse her lol).

I dont understand these people what is wrong with them why have a slower processor less ram a crap camera updates that come out once in a blue moon and a market where almost nothing usefull is free and a system thats under more control than a chinese media centre
I admit time wise ios has the phd and android is still a student but that student is a prodogy
Maybe you're wifes and girlfriends will learn once they actally buy the iphone five and you have a kal el powered android phone
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lol i guess im one of the few lucky ones here my girlfriend and I swear by android

reaperzero said:
lol i guess im one of the few lucky ones here my girlfriend and I swear by android
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I have to admit, sometimes I swear at android
Way to go Asus though. My transformer is the best gadget I've ever owned. I've finally been able to ditch my HP laptop for business meetings.

Because it's Apple; 'nough said. If I had so many froathy mouthed lunatic fans as the cult of the Mac' then I would invent a thermo-nuclear death ray and direct them to take over the world for me. Hehe.
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No ****, I'm married to one. She won't even consider Android anything anymore. She has made it clear her next phone will be the iPhone 5 and we sold the iPad and she is using my Transformer and *****es about it EVERY SINGLE DAY demanding she get an iPad 2. Yet...one of the main things she wants to do is Skype (with family) which is much better on the Transformer due to the camera but she just doesn't get it. Oh, did I mention she has never even used an iPhone before, but she said she just knows its better...
So, in an effort to stave off a domestic violence situation and/or divorce...we are buying a stupid iPad 2 today.
I love her in every other way...but her understanding of technology is a disappointment. I guess no one is perfect...well...except us here in the forums.
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I'm blessed, because my fiancee generally takes a "That's retarded!" view of such things; be it blind Apple Fanboyism (It's just better because it's Apple) or pretty much anything else like that. Wouldn't be surprised if she went iPhone should she someday take a smart phone, which is perfectly fine with me. It really is a major pleasure to have someone like I do, and knowing that the girl I love can apply her mind even there: rather than joining the mindless mob. I love that Firefly.
Differences like what you've got to deal with are probably ineveable in any relationship IMHO but at least you don't have to trade in all your crap for iCrap lol.
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iOS is only good if you Jailbreak it. Without Cydia iOS sux. It's slow and clunky. The true tech savvy person knows that Android rules over iOS in every aspect except for ergonomics. Apple still has the thinnest phones and pads.

Asus really won me over with my transformer, I have an iPhone 4 and i decided to go android for my tablet to get sense of them, now i can't stand using my iPhone it just doesn't do what I want it to do and I know my next phone will be a Nexu phone... except i have another ytwo years on my contract.... Damn you Canada and your 3 year contracts

ExploreMN said:
No ****, I'm married to one. She won't even consider Android anything anymore. She has made it clear her next phone will be the iPhone 5 and we sold the iPad and she is using my Transformer and *****es about it EVERY SINGLE DAY demanding she get an iPad 2. Yet...one of the main things she wants to do is Skype (with family) which is much better on the Transformer due to the camera but she just doesn't get it. Oh, did I mention she has never even used an iPhone before, but she said she just knows its better...
So, in an effort to stave off a domestic violence situation and/or divorce...we are buying a stupid iPad 2 today.
I love her in every other way...but her understanding of technology is a disappointment. I guess no one is perfect...well...except us here in the forums.
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I'm sorry to hear. My better half was the opposite. I really tried to convince her to get an ipad 2 since she was computer illiterate. But she wouldn't have it. She wanted what I had. So we went out to get her a tf.

AcIdC0R3 said:
iOS is only good if you Jailbreak it. Without Cydia iOS sux. It's slow and clunky. The true tech savvy person knows that Android rules over iOS in every aspect except for ergonomics. Apple still has the thinnest phones and pads.
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Without jailbreak you can change the socks and with jailbreak you can change shoes. So it's not a big deal. Without root allows you to do more than jailbreaked iOS device.
AcIdC0R3 said:
Apple still has the thinnest phones and pads.
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Samsung Galaxy 10.1 is "much" thinner 8.6 mm (iPad 8.8 mm.)