Stylus Support (Active Stylus) - Galaxy Tab 7.7 General

Hi, Samsung did not gave us SPen but i think this tablet has stylus support. I don't own it so i can not test it. Maybe you can.
Samsung Galaxy Tablet 7.7 uses this touchscreen chip: Atmel's MXT768E. I've got the info from here.
Another article about this chipset, here. It was provided by appelflap.
And if i read it correctly you can use their stylus: maXStylus.
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The problem is that this stylus is not for sale right now. By reading other forums i have learned that you can use Motorola's new stilus.
Unfortunatly this stylus has a thick tip ~3mm. You can buy it from here.
I hope that someone has this stylus and test it on this tablet.
Another problem could be that you need Android 4.x in order to use the stylus. I am not sure about this.
So, please, get a compatible pen and test this theory!
Also you can press "Thanks".

Interesting. We'll just have to see whether or not this feature is actually enabled on the 7.7
If it's the same technology as is present in the Note, then I can definitely confirm that it does not work. The S-pen does nothing on the 7.7

I would think that there is not an active digitizer just a capacitive screen. A capacitive stylus would work but not an active.

murmur70 said:
I would think that there is not an active digitizer just a capacitive screen. A capacitive stylus would work but not an active.
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I think that need ICS on the tab because it has native stylus support. Honeycomb does not. On the SGN Samsung embedded the stylus support.

mdalacu said:
I think that need ICS on the tab because it has native stylus support. Honeycomb does not. On the SGN Samsung embedded the stylus support.
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I'm pretty sure there's no digitizer on the 7.7 so regardless of whether or not ICS has native support for it, if the hardware isn't there then only capacitive styluses will work with it. I mean, if there was a digitizer wouldn't Samsung advertise that as a feature?

burhanistan said:
I'm pretty sure there's no digitizer on the 7.7 so regardless of whether or not ICS has native support for it, if the hardware isn't there then only capacitive styluses will work with it. I mean, if there was a digitizer wouldn't Samsung advertise that as a feature?
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Well, since the s-pen basically uses the necessary technology to work on the alleged hidden feature of the 7.7, and assuming that Honeycomb's lack of native support for an active digitizer is the only thing keeping the s-pen from functioning on the 7.7, then I suppose we'll all just have to wait until the 7.7 gets ICS. Maybe then we can try to see if the s-pen works with it or not. Until then, really, all we have is speculation.
P.S. I also have a GNote, so I volunteer to try as soon as ICS is officially available from Samsung for the 7.7

Jade Eyed Wolf said:
Well, since the s-pen basically uses the necessary technology to work on the alleged hidden feature of the 7.7, and assuming that Honeycomb's lack of native support for an active digitizer is the only thing keeping the s-pen from functioning on the 7.7, then I suppose we'll all just have to wait until the 7.7 gets ICS. Maybe then we can try to see if the s-pen works with it or not. Until then, really, all we have is speculation.
P.S. I also have a GNote, so I volunteer to try as soon as ICS is officially available from Samsung for the 7.7
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Thank you..! You just saved me some money Jade Eyed Wolf.. Why would they include the Pen Memo app..? They should have called it Finger Memo.. lol, shame.. I was hoping an S Pen would have worked..
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maconsultant said:
Thank you..! You just saved me some money Jade Eyed Wolf.. Why would they include the Pen Memo app..? They should have called it Finger Memo.. lol, shame.. I was hoping an S Pen would have worked..
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Yeah I hear ya! Also, in case it wasn't obvious, I tried the s-pen with my 7.7, and it does absolutely nothing... yet(?) Just FYI.

Maybe it is a different technology and indeed the SPen does not work but their stylus could work. Just read all the links that i have provided and draw the conclusion yourself. Also remember to post your thoughts.

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Maybe it is a different technology and indeed the SPen does not work but their stylus could work. Just read all the links that i have provided and draw the conclusion yourself. Also remember to post your thoughts.
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Well, maybe you're right. The keylayout directory contains a layout file with the mapping of something that looks certainly like a pen:
key 544 PEN WAKE
key 545 ERASER WAKE
key 555 SIDE_SWITCH WAKE
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Exciting. Did some additional research.
First. The maxtouch e series touch screen seems to support a passive conductive stylus of 2mm. http://www.atmel.com/microsite/maxtouch_eseries/default.asp
Second: they also seem to support another, more precise stylus. To activate that stylus only a "software update and no hardware changes" is required. http://www.electronicsweekly.com/Ar...ers-0.25mm-accuracy-from-capacitive-touch.htm
According to the same article Ice Cream Sandwich stylus support seems to be supported by the amtel chip.

appelflap said:
Second: to activate the stylus only a "software update and no hardware changes" is required.
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Nice finding , i have updated the first post with your link.

http://global.samsungtomorrow.com/?p=10571
They clearly say that a digitizer is a separate piece to the touch screen
3. Digitizer
The digitizer interacts with the S-Pen to sense the pen-tip’s location and the amount of pressure. By establishing an electromagnetic field, it blocks the noise and magnetism through the shield plate.
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ph00ny said:
http://global.samsungtomorrow.com/?p=10571
They clearly say that a digitizer is a separate piece to the touch screen
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Yeah, that's how the Note is working. But this seems a whole new technology. See the electronicsweekly article

appelflap said:
Yeah, that's how the Note is working. But this seems a whole new technology. See the electronicsweekly article
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I read that as a reverse of active digitizer
Meaning using an active stylus to achieve the result of an active digitizer capable panel

ph00ny said:
I read that as a reverse of active digitizer
Meaning using an active stylus to achieve the result of an active digitizer capable panel
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Something like that. I don't know much about electronics but it seems to be a stylus that interacts directly with the capacitive screen and not with a digitizer. Not only as a capacitive stylus (they already support that up to a 2mm thickness - which is pretty thin also, that's why the motorola stylus might work) but also by sending out signals that it is a stylus and not for example a finger. No clue however how they manage to get a 0.25mm precision with this. But it seems that they have found a technology to do that with capacitive technology.
Edit : I saw that the xoom 2 stylus is also active. If the xoom 2 has the same chip, it might get active stylus support after the ics update also. As google is working close together with motorola, this might be the way they gonna unleash the stylus support in ics
Again, I have no clue. Lol

Haha same kind of thread in the transformer prime forum http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1446655
Prime also seems to have the amtel e series touchscreen chip

Promising stuff, thanks for the info.

You might be interested in this video demonstration
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqVmPZcZ5RA
Sman

Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1
Pissed, s-pen support on a tablet. This is what I wanted
http://www.itproportal.com/2012/02/26/samsung-galaxy-note-101-tablet-displayed-mwc-2012/

sman55 said:
You might be interested in this video demonstration
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqVmPZcZ5RA
Sman
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I want to get one and try it
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[Q] Mystery Feature

What are the mystery features held within the Adam?
HDMI In
Starting off the conversation I would like to state how Rohan has been interested in the graphics processing of the Tegra 2. In one statement he presented as a question he said "If it is capable of capturing 12.2 megapixel pictures from a camera what else could this feature be used for." I say HDMI in with the ability to record your favorite TV shows when it is docked.
I'm guessing the mystery feature is a kick-stand.
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I'm guessing the mystery feature is a kick-stand.
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I think that would be the most awesome feature. I love the one on my EVO, but i hope they make it dual kickstand so it is more sturdy.
A kickstand would truly be epic, but didn't he mention something about a secret sensor on his blog?
kevin24lg said:
A kickstand would truly be epic, but didn't he mention something about a secret sensor on his blog?
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yes the adam will not have a kickstand, the secret feature will be some type of sensor. hopefully we find out on saturday
I will be glued to my computer waiting for the video to release.
crimton said:
yes the adam will not have a kickstand, the secret feature will be some type of sensor. Hopefully we find out on saturday
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hot horny chick detector sensor ftw!
May be the HDMI Out will give out HDMI Mirroring / eliminating the Desktop in whole loading some linux kernel / OS making it easy for the developers.
No idea.
Crossed fingers
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What are the mystery features held within the Adam?
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It's not just one feature. Rohan had mentioned in the blog that the "mystery feature" is actually a number of features "locked" in the tablet right now. They shall be releasing a software update every 15 days that will unlock these features one at a time.
So besides the kick-stand, all the other features here stand a chance ;-)
In 19 Dec 2009 , when slashgear wrote an article about Adam for the first time , they said that it has a water sensor !!!
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Also they said that this tablet is sth like this:
but in CES 2010 when the notion ink showed the Adam , it totally had a different shape
but I think the mystery feature is water sensor! I don`t know it is useful or not....
My vote goes towards a removable stylus.
I like the secret software features idea. Starting with built in swype.
Anyone know if swype would work on these units ?
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The water sensor
was just probably on a list of parts. It would probably be like the little moisture tabs in the battery compartment of your phone.
As mentioned before, the bonus feature will be something LOCKED in the first time, and unlocked with future updates, and it should be a sensor. No idea which one !
It could be onetouch breakit, 30 day live, or purposedly unresponsive touch....
Wasn't there talk of a back panel touch pad?
I swear I read that somewhere a long while back.
I'm on the fence about whether or not I should have pre-ordered one, but I wanted to wait for reviews first. :/
ill bet its NFC. They have been pretty open with saying it will get 2.3
NFC is a gimmick.
What is/does a "Water Sensor"? Is this for people living in deserts? xD
If it came with a dedicated comfy capacitative stylus and hole, it would be sweet.
I dont like kickstands unless they close up to be flush with the device, otherwise it feels weird on the back of the hand.
I don't like the idea of "unlocking" a feature, because I know Notion Ink is dishonest and that they really are lazy/don't have the resources to have everything functional from day 1. They will probably slowly optimise the stacks/drivers and once they are working properly they will "unlock" it in future updates (God knows how long it takes).
But I must commend them for making this seem fun.
For eg/ my SGS I9000 had a GPS unit but it wouldn't work at all, the Froyo update "unlocked" it, but the official Froyo update also gave me more lag, more force closes, and took away multitasking (each app is automatically closed when you hit the Home button!!!!).
mattjacobson said:
Wasn't there talk of a back panel touch pad?
I swear I read that somewhere a long while back.
I'm on the fence about whether or not I should have pre-ordered one, but I wanted to wait for reviews first. :/
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Not talk or a rumour, this is confirmed. In order to fully view the screen and allow easily selecting links etc. without obstructing the screen with your hand. NOT the mystery feature in any case, but cool, I think

[VOTE] What is the best s-pen?

Samsung Bluetooth S-Pen HM-5100 (s-pen with microphone and speaker!)
Samsung S-Pen ETC-S1J9 (s-pen of the Note 2!)
Samsung S-Pen ET-S200EBE (s-pen with eraser)
Samsung S-Pen ETC-S1G2BE (s-pen of the Note 10.1)
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I have all of them except the one with eraser. You forgot the ET-S110EBEGSTA "S-Pen and Holder."
Of them, the one that feels best (not to hold but to use) is the BT S-Pen. It feels most natural against the display and doesn't feel draggy like the others sometimes can. The rest more or less feel the same against the display. The S-Pen and Holder feels best in the hand.
I have #3 and really like it.
I know that the microphone on the HM-5100 is designed for using the tablet as a phone but it would be great if somebody could design an app that functioned similarly to the LiveScribe Echo Smart Pen.
I've had this thing for a few years now and it's amazing for taking notes in seminars.
toenail_flicker said:
I have #3 and really like it.
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the one with the eraser?
I think i'll get that one [since we both have the N0813]
HG! said:
the one with the eraser?
I think i'll get that one [since we both have the N0813]
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Yes. Just flip it over and erase - exactly like a pencil.
I have pen number 3. Would like to find a pen holder for my 10.1. Even though the s pen in the 10.1 is slightly larger it is not nice to hold for long periods of time.
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English_Gentleman said:
I have pen number 3. Would like to find a pen holder for my 10.1. Even though the s pen in the 10.1 is slightly larger it is not nice to hold for long periods of time.
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You mean the pen that comes with the tab is smaller, not larger. :silly:
What is the cost of the Bluetooth one that's not available in India
BarryH_GEG said:
I have all of them except the one with eraser. You forgot the ET-S110EBEGSTA "S-Pen and Holder."
Of them, the one that feels best (not to hold but to use) is the BT S-Pen. It feels most natural against the display and doesn't feel draggy like the others sometimes can. The rest more or less feel the same against the display. The S-Pen and Holder feels best in the hand.
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When you say they feel draggy against the screen did you try the white tip that came with the note. Because the black and white is rubber and white is plastic so it just slides across the screen with no friction.
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The S pen holder for the Note 1 doesnt support the extra pressure sensitivity, do that leaves the one with the eraser or the Bluetooth one.
But why would u need a pen with a mic if you already have one in the tablet?
That leaves the eraser one as the best.
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blue13x said:
The S pen holder for the Note 1 doesnt support the extra pressure sensitivity, do that leaves the one with the eraser or the Bluetooth one.
But why would u need a pen with a mic if you already have one in the tablet?
That leaves the eraser one as the best.
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Because holding a tablet up for a call, trying to put in earphones for a call is a hassle. With the BT S-Pen it can be left in the pocket, like a normal pen, while the tablet is in your bag. If a call comes through the pen vibrates to let you know about it and its a hell of a lot easier, not to mention quicker to answer a call by just hitting he answer button. A bluetooth headset would also suffice but who wants to be wearing that around all day....
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Because holding a tablet up for a call, trying to put in earphones for a call is a hassle. With the BT S-Pen it can be left in the pocket, like a normal pen, while the tablet is in your bag. If a call comes through the pen vibrates to let you know about it and its a hell of a lot easier, not to mention quicker to answer a call by just hitting he answer button. A bluetooth headset would also suffice but who wants to be wearing that around all day....
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You know if I seen someone holding a pen up to their face and talking to it I would think they are crazy. But I guess that goes the same if I seen them holding a 10 inch tablet to their face haha
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ultramag69 said:
A bluetooth headset would also suffice but who wants to be wearing that around all day....
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So true. No one's that important.
brettsaylor87 said:
You know if I seen someone holding a pen up to their face and talking to it
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I was using the Note on a flight recently before the door was closed so the person next to me saw me using the pen as a pen. When I got an incoming call and answered it with the pen my seat mate looked at me as if I was just let out.
I have the one with the eraser and it is great. What is the usage of the blue tooth phone? What are people doing with it?
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I have the one with the eraser and it is great. What is the usage of the blue tooth phone? What are people doing with it?
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It's really just a BT headset contained in a pen. It beeps and vibrates when you receive a call. By pressing the button on it you can initiate a call or use the S-Voice functions if you have it installed. It's good for occasional use. I wouldn't use it as my primary phone or even as a replacement for a BT headset if I was using the Note for a pre-planned conference call.
I just use the speakers. I know that won't always work, but neither will a pen.
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BarryH_GEG said:
When I got an incoming call and answered it with the pen my seat mate looked at me as if I was just let out.
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Could this spen -Samsung S-Pen ET-S200EBE (s-pen with eraser) put into the body of note 10.1?
joehsieh99 said:
Could this spen -Samsung S-Pen ET-S200EBE (s-pen with eraser) put into the body of note 10.1?
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No. If you look at the photo in the op you can see that the size is slightly larger and easier to hold, which is what makes it a better stylus.
Does any user note 2 using the bluetooth pen on their note 2 here? How does it feel? Does it ok or off set when u write something using it? I have s pen with eraser for 10.1..i use it on my note 2 and found it off set when want to write something n i could not found way to calibrate it
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Sensors on Samsung galaxy s4

Hi All ,
As far as i have noticed that there is an additional sensor on top when compared to Samsung galaxy note 2
Now my question is what is that sensor what feature are related to it i am suspecting is could be the Eye control feature ?
The eye control features seem to rely on the front-facing camera like with the S3 and Note 2, while Air Gestures relies on some infrared sensor above the display. As for Floating Touch, I have no idea how that works, but Samsung mentioned it's down to some entirely new screen tech (maybe it's just what the Note 2 does with the s-pen set to detect fingers instead, or maybe it's something deeper).
The S4 also has a thermometer and humidity sensor. It will be interesting to see how good they are and whether developers can up with interesting apps which use them.
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The S4 also has a thermometer and humidity sensor. It will be interesting to see how good they are and whether developers can up with interesting apps which use them.
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And a pedometer to add to that.
GGXtreme said:
The eye control features seem to rely on the front-facing camera like with the S3 and Note 2, while Air Gestures relies on some infrared sensor above the display. As for Floating Touch, I have no idea how that works, but Samsung mentioned it's down to some entirely new screen tech (maybe it's just what the Note 2 does with the s-pen set to detect fingers instead, or maybe it's something deeper).
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Research! before posting things.
Xperia sola had this feature months back. not this matured but fine.
It's called self induction. It's a capacitive panel which has a stronger field extending beyond the glass.
the primary mutual capacitive panel has a less range but more accurate field. Hence it supports multi touch.
So two capacitive panels under one sheet of glass. That is impressive. The air view , gestures can all be written on to this . It explains why samsung uses 'barely' everywhere it talks about air view. Because its capacitive.
Infrared or IR is way less controllable ( You will need a strip of it on either sides - with visible opening for one fact).
ngenhit said:
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Maybe you should take your own advice. There is no official information on how the Floating Touch works aside from Samsung saying it uses special screen technology. Here's a quote from GSMArena:
The Galaxy S4 has also borrowed a page from the Galaxy Note II book and features hover touch. Since there's no stylus here, it's made to work with fingers, giving you a small blue dot on the screen whenever you hold your finger a centimeter or two away from it. This makes it easier to avoid wrong presses when handling small items in the web browser and also enables some nice features like previewing the content of a folder in the gallery without opening it...While it does use the Note II SDK, Samsung says that it relies on special tech exclusive to the Galaxy S4 display.
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As for the Air Gestures, Samsung also said an IR sensor was used, and the sensor is clearly visible above the display alongside the front-facing camera and other sensors:
The other novelty on the Samsung Galaxy S4 is called Air gestures. Those use the Galaxy S4 new IR gestures sensor and work in the web browser, music player and even in the dialer. The Air gestures allow you to command your phone by simply waiving in front of it.
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Source: http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s_4-review-907p3.php
ngenhit said:
Research! before posting things.
Xperia sola had this feature months back. not this matured but fine.
It's called self induction. It's a capacitive panel which has a stronger field extending beyond the glass.
the primary mutual capacitive panel has a less range but more accurate field. Hence it supports multi touch.
So two capacitive panels under one sheet of glass. That is impressive. The air view , gestures can all be written on to this . It explains why samsung uses 'barely' everywhere it talks about air view. Because its capacitive.
Infrared or IR is way less controllable ( You will need a strip of it on either sides - with visible opening for one fact).
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was gonna 'Thank' before you started the thread off letting everyone know what a huge dbag you are..
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I am interested to see how ir blaster will work. Can someone tell mw whether it will work with all samsung smart tv series?
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Lol
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The answers is almost in the second post.. and samsung hasnt said exactly how the floating gestures have been implemnted even when asked by tech sites.. and by the way the note 1, 2 and s3 has a barometer too.. probably s4 has one too
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polite way of saying an complete ass :laugh:
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polite way of saying an complete ass :laugh:
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Hehe Nice one .
aukhan said:
Hi All ,
As far as i have noticed that there is an additional sensor on top when compared to Samsung galaxy note 2
Now my question is what is that sensor what feature are related to it i am suspecting is could be the Eye control feature ?
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Eye tracking is for smart scroll smart stay and and pause
Air gesture and floating touch have separate buttons
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S4 INFO
quoted from gsmarena,all the mystery about new sensors are now cleared
I believe the Air-Touch thingy is simply related to the touch-screen panel's sensitivity, or at least can be achieved this way.
I seem to recall that this was achieved a while ago in a cm-based ROM, on a device that doesn't ship with this kind of feature (like the Xperia Sola) by cranking-up the touchscreen sensitivity at kernel level, this way, it would have a detection range wider than the thickness of the glass that covers it, thus registering touch events even with the finger a few centimeters away from the screen.
EDIT: found the post, it was on Galaxy S Plus: http://www.xda-developers.com/android/floating-touch-on-the-samsung-galaxy-s-plus/
I'll however take a look at how the Samsung APIs handle this feature and if they rely on a specific sensor/set of sensors.
This might be worth investigating for my participation in the Samsung Smart App Challenge 2013.

would love to see S4 function on our note 8.0

Just went to the Samsung shop today, many S4s are in stock and waiting for people to grab it lol.
So I gave it a try and playing around with new functions, such as S Translate, it looks like google translate lol nothing really impressed me there. but I do love the one with eyes scrolling page while browsing, even though it kinds of slow but it just awesome.
So I wish to see them on our beloved note 8.0 lol that's all ;p
I have an s4 as well which i am selling, but i would like to get the air gesture and smart scroll function on our note 8, i would assume note 8 has the sensor for it since we have that smart stay and that air view with our pen
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All of those can be ported as soon as I get the device. I.E il be building android 4.2 which will be our base to port s4 rom.
I remember reading somewhat that Samsung will be porting some of the features to their older flagships I.e. Note 2 and S 3. Wish I could remember where though. Can't remember if it was a reliable source or just some fudd blog.
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I remember reading somewhat that Samsung will be porting some of the features to their older flagships I.e. Note 2 and S 3. Wish I could remember where though. Can't remember if it was a reliable source or just some fudd blog.
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The S3 may not support this feature, due to some hardware limitations (sensors maybe), or its just a kernel thing..
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All of those can be ported as soon as I get the device. I.E il be building android 4.2 which will be our base to port s4 rom.
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looking forward to this, specially the air gesture so I can eat chicken at the same time scrolling on my Note 8..
genius24k said:
looking forward to this, specially the air gesture so I can eat chicken at the same time scrolling on my Note 8..
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Yeah thats pretty much of what I wanted too. Anyways I examined the S4 kernel source code, its there, reference to gestures, maybe it can be ported on 4.1.2 (no need of specific rom)
Yeah, I hope these will become available on my note as well.
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emwno said:
Yeah thats pretty much of what I wanted too. Anyways I examined the S4 kernel source code, its there, reference to gestures, maybe it can be ported on 4.1.2 (no need of specific rom)
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That would be fantastic
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Well, the S4 has a new infrared, which increases its range to detect from beyond the screen. Maybe we can use the proximity
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Well, the S4 has a new infrared, which increases its range to detect from beyond the screen. Maybe we can use the proximity
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If you mean proximity sensor I think someone mentioned that the Wifi-only model doesn't have a proximity sensor.
I believe the SGS4 has TWO Proximity Sensors for the Hand Gesture features...one on each side of the earpiece. There is also an Ambient Light Sensor for auto display dimming, and the Front Facing Camera. The FFC (maybe combined with the proximity sensors?) is used for Smart Stay/Scrolling. The IR Blaster is used for Remote Control of your TV/DVR/STEREO using the Peel or Watch On apps.
Here is a closeup photo of the S4:
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I don't think that the Note 8.0 3G+WiFi version has the Second Proximity Sensor that would be used for the Hand Gestures and possibly Smart Scrolling? Here is a photo of the front of the 3G Note 8.0. I see a Light Sensor, a Proximity Sensor, and a FFC:
And a photo of the WiFi Only Note 8.0. I see a Light Sensor and the FFC:
bbfoto said:
I don't think that the Note 8.0 3G+WiFi version has the Second Proximity Sensor that would be used for the Hand Gestures and possibly Smart Scrolling? Here is a photo of the front of the 3G Note 8.0. I see a Light Sensor, a Proximity Sensor, and a FFC:
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This would be disappointing if its true, I would be happy even if only the vertical scroll air gesture could be done on the note 8. the smart scrolling is useless I have it turned off on the S4.
genius24k said:
I have an s4 as well which i am selling, but i would like to get the air gesture and smart scroll function on our note 8, i would assume note 8 has the sensor for it since we have that smart stay and that air view with our pen
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You can sort of get the air gesture capability by using the S pen and pressing the tip with your finger while holding it close (but not touching) the screen. Works well for scrolling. Selecting icons takes a little bit of practice as holding the s pen tip down too long results in a long press (on my 5110 it's real touchy).
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You can sort of get the air gesture capability by using the S pen and pressing the tip with your finger while holding it close (but not touching) the screen. Works well for scrolling. Selecting icons takes a little bit of practice as holding the s pen tip down too long results in a long press (on my 5110 it's real touchy).
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Yeah, but it doesnt work while holding 2 fried chicken , on my s4 i can have oily chicken on both hand and stii scroll down reading blogs, that teh main reason I want the air gesture
genius24k said:
Yeah, but it doesnt work while holding 2 fried chicken , on my s4 i can have oily chicken on both hand and stii scroll down reading blogs, that teh main reason I want the air gesture
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LOL! Yeah, I'm thinking the same thing--it would be really nifty to be able to browse the internet without touching the screen (or the S-Pen), but just with air gestures (for when hands are dirty). It is too bad it seems like we won't see that functionality on the Note 8.
Instead of using the proximity sensor...
What about looking at using the Wacom Digitizer tech instead?
So the digitizer layer tracks the S Pen in a magnetic field... it would be a matter of determining what it is inside the S Pen that's being tracked... then perhaps buying some cheap alternative pens and removing parts.
Perhaps there is something small that could be stuck to a fingernail?
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FaeMinx said:
Instead of using the proximity sensor...
What about looking at using the Wacom Digitizer tech instead?
So the digitizer layer tracks the S Pen in a magnetic field... it would be a matter of determining what it is inside the S Pen that's being tracked... then perhaps buying some cheap alternative pens and removing parts.
Perhaps there is something small that could be stuck to a fingernail?
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That's a clever and fascinating idea.... I'd be very interested to hear the results of any experimenting that you or others do with that.
Yeah. Gorgeous screen of Note 8 now only needs S4 features and it will flatten all records.

Does the S-Pen work with the Galaxy S7?

If so, im definitely getting the S7. Thanks
If you google - samsung-galaxy-s7-leak-hints-at-android-n-with-stylus-support, you'll find the article.
nobiaz said:
If so, im definitely getting the S7. Thanks
If you google - samsung-galaxy-s7-leak-hints-at-android-n-with-stylus-support, you'll find the article.
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No man. Come on. [emoji36] [emoji35]
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Didn't think so as it would need the digitiser from the Note. But does anyone know if it has the extra screen sensitivity setting that the Galaxy S5 had. I remember with that phone I was amazed that i could write on the screen really easily with a ball point pen or pencil, it was no S-Pen but having the precision of a pencil is so much better than a generic fat stylus. It didn't leave much mess on the phone either, just had to remember to not press down hard.
It would be great if the S7 had this feature as I'm selling my Note 4 to get the Edge.
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Didn't think so as it would need the digitiser from the Note. But does anyone know if it has the extra screen sensitivity setting that the Galaxy S5 had. I remember with that phone I was amazed that i could write on the screen really easily with a ball point pen or pencil, it was no S-Pen but having the precision of a pencil is so much better than a generic fat stylus. It didn't leave much mess on the phone either, just had to remember to not press down hard.
It would be great if the S7 had this feature as I'm selling my Note 4 to get the Edge.
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Yeah, I also want to know if S7 has this feature by using a normal pencil as a stylus.. Anyone has tried this yet? Also want to upgrade from Note 4 to S7 Edge if confirm can use this feature..
I bought a note 5 stylus from eBay to try it out. Problem is it's from China so it will take about 4 weeks to get here.
Just moved from a Note 4 to a S7 Edge (SM-9350). The Note 4's pen does NOT work on my S7.
Let me know if you want some additional information.
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If you use nova launcher add a action to home screen under settings is a page that says s-pen and this is what is in it.
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triyed with a raw piece of metal (very subtle) and confirm that the screen respond almost like my note 4 with s-pen. -> it must be conductive (take care to not scratch the screen).
Used a paperclip and it works with the phone..lol
Got a Note 5 and S7 Edge both.
Doesn't work.
You will need one of these!
Stilo Stylus:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00YYL74GY...colid=FGXTQDPM74OR&coliid=IEL79AWKTNY5A&psc=1
ziotom2 said:
triyed with a raw piece of metal (very subtle) and confirm that the screen respond almost like my note 4 with s-pen. -> it must be conductive (take care to not scratch the screen).
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How about a normal pencil? Will the screen respond to it?
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contentryder said:
You will need one of these!
Stilo Stylus:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00YYL74GY...colid=FGXTQDPM74OR&coliid=IEL79AWKTNY5A&psc=1
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That is a cool stylus.. Unfortnetily it doesn't include as amazon international shipping to Singapore. Kinda want to use mormal pencil as stylus, bcause am using pencil for sketching & writing mostly at work..
Holywolf said:
How about a normal pencil? Will the screen respond to it?
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That is a cool stylus.. Unfortnetily it doesn't include as amazon international shipping to Singapore. Kinda want to use mormal pencil as stylus, bcause am using pencil for sketching & writing mostly at work..
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Try Ebay...normal pencil will not work.
t12icky0 said:
I bought a note 5 stylus from eBay to try it out. Problem is it's from China so it will take about 4 weeks to get here.
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You take the prize for the biggest waste of money ever...
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Brava27 said:
You take the prize for the biggest waste of money ever...
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Well considering my wife has the note 5 I think not. She needed a replacement so how is it a waste? Before you start to judge you need to know the situation first.
t12icky0 said:
Well considering my wife has the note 5 I think not. She needed a replacement so how is it a waste? Before you start to judge you need to know the situation first.
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oh well now you make sense lol
I gave the Note 5 pen a try and it doesn't work at all. Won't register a single click probably cause of the fine point tip. I also tried with my regular Amazon basics pen which I use for my Windows tablet and it works just fine.
Urh
It will never work, the Spen does not use your normal Stylus.
Normal Stylus is normally a conductor to pass your electromagnetic thought the pen
(thats most finger detection)
Samsung USED to have a GLOVE mode, So this turned the Screen Touch to Pressure sensitivity,.
(A pencil would work in this case)
You would be required to get a conductor to use as a Stylus i.e. use the Static proof paper to make your own Stylus, It works)
The Spen used hardware for detection, Hence the Hovering of the Spen showed it cursor, the Press hard and less showed worked for Thickness thiness,
It also counted how high the pen was off the screen
(Worked with the sPen SDK Before)
chakra said:
If you use nova launcher add a action to home screen under settings is a page that says s-pen and this is what is in it.
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That setting isn't there anymore, at least not on my S7 Edge.
I don't think spen will work

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