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Old Rumor "Samsung Galaxy S2 I9200" - Might be True !!!

i am sure you all remember after the release of Samsung Galaxy S, a Russian site disclosed information about proposed Samsung Galaxy S2 with following specs.
4.3” 1280x720px Super AMOLED 2 display
2GHz CPU,
1GB RAM/4GB ROM
32GB of built-in flash memory, +32GB microSD card slot
8 megapixel camera with FullHD video recording
A-GPS, Bluetooth 3.0, Wi-Fi b/g/n
3.5 mm headset jack
Accelerometer, gyroscope, proximity and ambient light sensors
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Many thought that its fake or fan-boy gone crazy...well they must think again cuz samsung has announced some amazing news last day.
A "DUAL CORE A9 1ghz Processor"
The system-on-a-chip (SoC) is codenamed Orion, it is based on the dual-core Cortex-A9 architecture from ARM, and will have the cores running at 1GHz. Samsung claims it will be 5 times faster in graphics rendering than its current Hummingbird.
Full HD video recording and decoding at 30fps, support for cameras up to 18MP, and support for up to three displays simultaneously - two on the device itself, and one external HDTV, for example, via HDMI-out. The Cortex-A9 chipsets also should deliver 30% reduction in power consumption.
have a look at following sites:
http://www.intomobile.com/2010/09/0...-a9-1080p-encodedecode-triple-screen-support/
http://www.tcmagazine.com/tcm/news/...g-tegra-2-orion-dual-core-1ghz-cortex-a9-chip
http://newsblaze.com/story/2010090622341800001.bw/topstory.html
http://www.slashgear.com/samsung-1g...lash-and-5mp14-6mp-cmos-chips-outed-07100868/

specs are just the max of what we could imagine. That's why I am skeptical. Talking about 3.0 when 2.2 is not final on the I9000 - that's a rather bad sign.

they will for sure give up on some specs when releasing the phone. and it will also depend on competitors product.
gingerbread is reality. android has already started spreading rumors abt Honeycomb (next version after gingerbread).

Whether the source is legit or not... I wouldn't be surprised if most of those specs are true.
We haven't heard of a "Super AMOLED 2" yet, but it would be a damn fine screen if it say, fixes the color banding on current pentile amoled (maybe use the RGBW I've heard about, that'd be awesome xD) and other issues (improve battery?)
Personally I think the current SGS size is perfect, so a 4.3" screen.. well they better have absolutely no wasted space around the screen lol.
It would also have to have hdmi out, either micro-hdmi or more likely the same connector as the galaxy tab.. and on that note, these specs sound very similar to the tab on steroids (tab already has confirmed gingerbread update + 1280x720 screen iirc).
If they release it (assuming it exists) in <6 months though, I think most of us would be a little mad though.. lol.
EDIT: OMG. maybe "Super AMOLED 2" could one of those foldable AMOLED screens... that would be pretty sweet haha!

dark_sith said:
specs are just the max of what we could imagine. That's why I am skeptical. Talking about 3.0 when 2.2 is not final on the I9000 - that's a rather bad sign.
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If they can achieve the screen then nothing else listed is really that mindblowing, particularly if OPs sources are accurate (OP, I didn't read them, too busy). @Froyo/gingerbread, Froyo is supposedly ready in a fashion that they can use it (and have put lots of work into getting apps to scale) for the tab. It's fairly apparent that the Galaxy Tab has been the focus of their software department for the better part of a month, but we will reap part of those rewards even if it has partially delayed our Froyo...it's definitely not too early to talk about Gingerbread, particularly if Samsung can work with Google (Google might be very interested if they like the Galaxy tab) to become the next Google-Experience Device.
oswade said:
Personally I think the current SGS size is perfect, so a 4.3" screen.. well they better have absolutely no wasted space around the screen lol.
If they release it (assuming it exists) in <6 months though, I think most of us would be a little mad though.. lol.
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I agree on 4.0" being the sweet spot, then again, before big devices become in vogue I wanted the 5.0" Streak until SGS was announced.
In the other thread about this topic a user said, 4.3" makes the rumors less likely because why would Samsung switch sizes (I know that's not what you said but I'll paraphrase my reply to him anyways). ...'I completely disagree. First, perhaps it was too hard for them to fabricate 4.3" in a device that they expect to sell like the SGS. 2nd, what percentage of Samsung's customers will upgrade from a 4.0" to a 4.3" 6 months later, they are trying to hit a different niche that perhaps opted for the Evo or would prefer a 4.3" if they were out of contract.'
As far as the progression of smartphones go, the faster the better, make my device obsolete tomorrow and that means the newest ones are nearly literally mini-laptops...I wouldn't need one for the duration of my contract. I'd only be jealous of the screen, and that is a jealousy I can live with (and probably pay a premium to switch devices for). Everything else, I'd be able to live without, and I bought this device thinking "This is the one I won't worry about for a year." Shorten that to 6 months and touche Samsung, you've done your job and done it well. The way the smartphone market is these days if they don't do it someone else will (well, they prob cant do screens like these for at least 12 months).

wonder if sammy will have fixed the GPS on the current model by the time that S2 releases

Holly Crap!
What will the I10000 have?
5" 1080p Super Super AMOLED
5 Ghz quad-core CPU
4 GB Ram/32 GB ROM
128GB of flash
12 megapixel camera with 1080 recording
???????????????????????
If they can make a dock for it, there is no reason to have a PC or a laptop anymore!
fayeznoor said:
4.3” 1280x720px Super AMOLED 2 display
2GHz CPU,
1GB RAM/4GB ROM
32GB of built-in flash memory, +32GB microSD card slot
8 megapixel camera with FullHD video recording
A-GPS, Bluetooth 3.0, Wi-Fi b/g/n
3.5 mm headset jack
Accelerometer, gyroscope, proximity and ambient light sensors
OS GingerBread
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Even If it's true, you won't see it until q4 of 2011.

any update on this?
a samsung insider should be asked, anyone know such a person?

Looks pretty awesome to me. I absolutely agree, 4" screen is perfect. 4"3 is a bit too wide, not as easy to hold in one hand.
But i mean, let's be real, all of this depends on the software they'll put in it. Samsung is getting much better at supporting their smartphones but still...
If this thing gets a good OS / support then it will kick ass (look at the X10 still on 1.6...)
AND, who knows what competition will have out by then. Maybe a new iphone 6 with even less buttons

I9200 or I9020 ?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=816893

necro a dead thread about a false rumor
good job

4.3” 1280x720px Super AMOLED 2 display
2GHz CPU,
1GB RAM/4GB ROM
32GB of built-in flash memory, +32GB microSD card slot
8 megapixel camera with FullHD video recording
A-GPS, Bluetooth 3.0, Wi-Fi b/g/n
3.5 mm headset jack
Accelerometer, gyroscope, proximity and ambient light sensors
OS GingerBread
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And battery on nucelar-polymer technology 10.000 mAh ,standby 2600 hours, talk time 1300 min....Will be ideal gadget
Dream, only dream...

Tegra 2 faster than a5, Exynos, Dual-core Snapdragon

I am sick of everyone thinking the upcoming dual-core devices will blow away tegra 2.
Tegra 2 vs Dual Core A5 (Ipad 2)
A lot of talk about Andntech OpenGL benchmark trumping Tegra 2, but what about Stockfish and Benchit Pi where A5 got slaughtered (PC Magazine)? With half the RAM and lower clock I don't see this thing smoking Tegra 2 in all benchmarks, or real life CPU situations.
Tegra 2 vs Exynos (Some Galaxy S2)
Lower benchmarks in Smartbench Gaming. Plus there is early benchmarks of Quadrant scores of 2100 tablets running the Exynos 4210. There is a reason why Samsung Galaxy S2 is including Tegra 2 in some regions.
Androidevolution.."One negative surprise on the S2 so far has been the level of GPU performance. So far, most of the early benchmark shows that Exynos 4210 isn’t up to par when it comes to the GPU performance. This is strange given that Samsung was leading the market when they introduced the previous generation SoC ...... Smartbench 2011 GPU numbers are once again, very disappointing"
Tegra 2 vs Dual Core-Snapdragon (HTC Pyramid)
This thing got smoked in Smartbench with gaming and productivity.
" Their tests confirm that the Pyramid indeed houses a dual-core chip, but the popular Smarbench 2011 shows a CPU and GPU that simply don’t hold up to the Tegra 2 chip found in the LG Optimus 2X and Motorola Atrix 4G"

Yea you're comparing pre-release builds of phones (S2 and Pyramid) with a Tegra 2 which has been out for months? Also, it's sad how poor the Tegra 2 platforms perform compared to the SGX540 which has been out for half a year already and still gets outscored in most benchmarks.
Oh and if you look at the most recent GLBenchmark 2.0 Egypt... Samsung's Exynos scores around 4000 compared to the Xoom's 1300 and Atrix's 2000. Even the original Galaxy S scores higher... around 2400.
Odroid-A Tablet which runs Exynos: http://www.glbenchmark.com/result.j...version=all&certified_only=2&brand=Hardkernel
Xoom and Atrix: http://www.glbenchmark.com/result.j...4&version=all&certified_only=2&brand=Motorola
Original Galaxy S: http://www.glbenchmark.com/result.j...=0&version=all&certified_only=2&brand=Samsung
And don't even bring up the Ipad 2. That thing has a dual core SGX543 which even in the single core version outperforms the SGX540, which the Tegra 2 can't even beat.
rex-tc said:
I am sick of everyone thinking the upcoming dual-core devices will blow away tegra 2.
Tegra 2 vs Dual Core A5 (Ipad 2)
A lot of talk about Andntech OpenGL benchmark trumping Tegra 2, but what about Stockfish and Benchit Pi where A5 got slaughtered (PC Magazine)? With half the RAM and lower clock I don't see this thing smoking Tegra 2 in all benchmarks, or real life CPU situations.
Tegra 2 vs Exynos (Some Galaxy S2)
Lower benchmarks in Smartbench Gaming. Plus there is early benchmarks of Quadrant scores of 2100 tablets running the Exynos 4210. There is a reason why Samsung Galaxy S2 is including Tegra 2 in some regions.
Androidevolution.."One negative surprise on the S2 so far has been the level of GPU performance. So far, most of the early benchmark shows that Exynos 4210 isn’t up to par when it comes to the GPU performance. This is strange given that Samsung was leading the market when they introduced the previous generation SoC ...... Smartbench 2011 GPU numbers are once again, very disappointing"
Tegra 2 vs Dual Core-Snapdragon (HTC Pyramid)
This thing got smoked in Smartbench with gaming and productivity.
" Their tests confirm that the Pyramid indeed houses a dual-core chip, but the popular Smarbench 2011 shows a CPU and GPU that simply don’t hold up to the Tegra 2 chip found in the LG Optimus 2X and Motorola Atrix 4G"
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****ty deal... I wonder how much software it will take to make it speedy gonzales
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dinan said:
Yea you're comparing pre-release builds of phones (S2 and Pyramid) with a Tegra 2 which has been out for months? Also, it's sad how poor the Tegra 2 platforms perform compared to the SGX540 which has been out for half a year already and still gets outscored in most benchmarks.
Oh and if you look at the most recent GLBenchmark 2.0 Egypt... Samsung's Exynos scores around 4000 compared to the Xoom's 1300 and Atrix's 2000. Even the original Galaxy S scores higher... around 2400.
Odroid-A Tablet which runs Exynos: http://www.glbenchmark.com/result.j...version=all&certified_only=2&brand=Hardkernel
Xoom and Atrix: http://www.glbenchmark.com/result.j...4&version=all&certified_only=2&brand=Motorola
Original Galaxy S: http://www.glbenchmark.com/result.j...=0&version=all&certified_only=2&brand=Samsung
And don't even bring up the Ipad 2. That thing has a dual core SGX543 which even in the single core version outperforms the SGX540, which the Tegra 2 can't even beat.
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ouch well put??? lol

dinan said:
Yea you're comparing pre-release builds of phones (S2 and Pyramid) with a Tegra 2 which has been out for months? Also, it's sad how poor the Tegra 2 platforms perform compared to the SGX540 which has been out for half a year already and still gets outscored in most benchmarks.
Oh and if you look at the most recent GLBenchmark 2.0 Egypt... Samsung's Exynos scores around 4000 compared to the Xoom's 1300 and Atrix's 2000. Even the original Galaxy S scores higher... around 2400.
Odroid-A Tablet which runs Exynos: http://www.glbenchmark.com/result.j...version=all&certified_only=2&brand=Hardkernel
Xoom and Atrix: http://www.glbenchmark.com/result.j...4&version=all&certified_only=2&brand=Motorola
Original Galaxy S: http://www.glbenchmark.com/result.j...=0&version=all&certified_only=2&brand=Samsung
And don't even bring up the Ipad 2. That thing has a dual core SGX543 which even in the single core version outperforms the SGX540, which the Tegra 2 can't even beat.
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Are you freaking kidding me?! You're an idiot mate.
All these devices have different resolutions so obviously your devices with **** resolutions (ie ipad) will have awesome scores.
Dude seriously poor effort.

Nado85 said:
Are you freaking kidding me?! You're an idiot mate.
All these devices have different resolutions so obviously your devices with **** resolutions (ie ipad) will have awesome scores.
Dude seriously poor effort.
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Both the Ipad2 and the Odroid run at higher resolutions than the Atrix, that should make them worse, not better off.
The Xoom is ~30% larger than the ipad2, but that is not enough to explain why the ipad2 is 4 times better
The Odroid is again larger than the Xoom, and that performes 3 times better than the Xoom.

dinan said:
Yea you're comparing pre-release builds of phones (S2 and Pyramid) with a Tegra 2 which has been out for months? Also, it's sad how poor the Tegra 2 platforms perform compared to the SGX540 which has been out for half a year already and still gets outscored in most benchmarks.
Oh and if you look at the most recent GLBenchmark 2.0 Egypt... Samsung's Exynos scores around 4000 compared to the Xoom's 1300 and Atrix's 2000. Even the original Galaxy S scores higher... around 2400.
Odroid-A Tablet which runs Exynos: http://www.glbenchmark.com/result.j...version=all&certified_only=2&brand=Hardkernel
Xoom and Atrix: http://www.glbenchmark.com/result.j...4&version=all&certified_only=2&brand=Motorola
Original Galaxy S: http://www.glbenchmark.com/result.j...=0&version=all&certified_only=2&brand=Samsung
And don't even bring up the Ipad 2. That thing has a dual core SGX543 which even in the single core version outperforms the SGX540, which the Tegra 2 can't even beat.
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you know what this points out? That people are VERY stupid and care too much about upcoming technology! Everything people buy ends up being obsolete in about a week or two. Its REALLY sad to see this because these software developers put a lot of time for something that will only be hot for a few weeks and then its yesterdays news. That's why software is getting choppier, and there is no quality backing anymore.
Aside from my *****ing...i do like how that Samsung platform works..quite impressive, i'd like to see what Nvidia will do next. These new technologies have been pushed mad crazy this last year. I think quality and reliability will take a hit quite hard due to the silicon being pushed to the limit of its threshold...we're not too far from that.

Mafisometal said:
... I think quality and reliability will take a hit quite hard due to the silicon being pushed to the limit of its threshold...we're not too far from that.
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Silicone has a long way to go before it max'es out. The good news is Nvidia has years of quality GPU fabbing and they've got loads of tricks up their sleeves yet.
What Samsung and Qualcomm dont have right now is games & software optimised for their chipsets. This is where the Tegra II is a step a head of the rest..
So don't stress peoples!

tadjiik said:
Both the Ipad2 and the Odroid run at higher resolutions than the Atrix, that should make them worse, not better off..
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Also, the Atrix is also running Android 2.2, where as the Odroid is on 2.3 which is optimised for dual core CPU's.....
We will all see a big difference when Moto release 2.3 / 2.4 for the Atrix.

I can confirm the SGX540 (iphone 4 graphics processor) beast tegra 2. i know the resolution is lower, however the smoothness and especially quick scrolling on jam packed websites like non moble youtube for example show its smoother.
i have not done a bench yet. i am more than happy with my atrix. actaully i just got an amd zacate fusion e350 and its on part with my atrix dual core yet eats 18watts. actaully, the atrix plays less choppy than the zacate.
however, its not as fast 'yet' as the sxg540 and OMG i bet the SGX543 is awesome.

The iPhone 5 had a higher resolution then the atrix, yet scored 15-16 fps in tests where the atrix gets 48-50. The tegra 2 I'd very future proof for s few.months especially considering that man manufacturers are still making single core phones.
To see what optimization can do. Download fruit slice, and compare it to fruit ninja tegra HD.
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Techcruncher said:
The iPhone 5 had a higher resolution then the atrix, yet scored 15-16 fps in tests where the atrix gets 48-50. The tegra 2 I'd very future proof for s few.months especially considering that man manufacturers are still making single core phones.
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Are you refering to the iphone4 here? That has a SGX535, which is worse than Tegra2, that is correct. But it is still not beating SGX540 (Samsung galaxy s), they seem to be about on par, according to glbenchmark.com. If you were refering to the ipad2, that beats tegra2 in just about anything.
To see what optimization can do. Download fruit slice, and compare it to fruit ninja tegra HD.
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And what proof do you have that those games are not able to play on non-tegra phones or (more likely) could be optimized just as well or better for non-tegra phones? Throwing up a game that has not really been tested on non-tegra phones does not prove anything.
To throw the ball back, if you want to see what optimizations can do for Exynos do a search for "engadget exynos gdc", which has a 1080p 3D demo @60 fps (I am unable to post links...)

lol nice try.
oh and "your devices"? I like how you assume I'm an apple fanboy when I'm actually a die-hard android user... i HAVE an atrix, a nexus S, a nexus one. What phones do you have? and the benchmark scores I posted were all between android devices so I'm not sure where you're seeing these "awesome scores" for the ipad?
come back when you actually have something to contribute.
Nado85 said:
Are you freaking kidding me?! You're an idiot mate.
All these devices have different resolutions so obviously your devices with **** resolutions (ie ipad) will have awesome scores.
Dude seriously poor effort.
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rex-tc said:
I am sick of everyone thinking the upcoming dual-core devices will blow away tegra 2.
Tegra 2 vs Dual Core A5 (Ipad 2)
A lot of talk about Andntech OpenGL benchmark trumping Tegra 2, but what about Stockfish and Benchit Pi where A5 got slaughtered (PC Magazine)? With half the RAM and lower clock I don't see this thing smoking Tegra 2 in all benchmarks, or real life CPU situations.
Tegra 2 vs Exynos (Some Galaxy S2)
Lower benchmarks in Smartbench Gaming. Plus there is early benchmarks of Quadrant scores of 2100 tablets running the Exynos 4210. There is a reason why Samsung Galaxy S2 is including Tegra 2 in some regions.
Androidevolution.."One negative surprise on the S2 so far has been the level of GPU performance. So far, most of the early benchmark shows that Exynos 4210 isn’t up to par when it comes to the GPU performance. This is strange given that Samsung was leading the market when they introduced the previous generation SoC ...... Smartbench 2011 GPU numbers are once again, very disappointing"
Tegra 2 vs Dual Core-Snapdragon (HTC Pyramid)
This thing got smoked in Smartbench with gaming and productivity.
" Their tests confirm that the Pyramid indeed houses a dual-core chip, but the popular Smarbench 2011 shows a CPU and GPU that simply don’t hold up to the Tegra 2 chip found in the LG Optimus 2X and Motorola Atrix 4G"
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You really need to wait for benchmarks on the EVO 3D to come out.
And you really need to see a finalized and optimized (Driver wise) S2.
To make a fair comparison.

dinan said:
Yea you're comparing pre-release builds of phones (S2 and Pyramid) with a Tegra 2 which has been out for months? Also, it's sad how poor the Tegra 2 platforms perform compared to the SGX540 which has been out for half a year already and still gets outscored in most benchmarks.
Oh and if you look at the most recent GLBenchmark 2.0 Egypt... Samsung's Exynos scores around 4000 compared to the Xoom's 1300 and Atrix's 2000. Even the original Galaxy S scores higher... around 2400.
Odroid-A Tablet which runs Exynos: http://www.glbenchmark.com/result.j...version=all&certified_only=2&brand=Hardkernel
Xoom and Atrix: http://www.glbenchmark.com/result.j...4&version=all&certified_only=2&brand=Motorola
Original Galaxy S: http://www.glbenchmark.com/result.j...=0&version=all&certified_only=2&brand=Samsung
And don't even bring up the Ipad 2. That thing has a dual core SGX543 which even in the single core version outperforms the SGX540, which the Tegra 2 can't even beat.
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Again more OpenGL benchmarks that prove nothing, nothing more than a fillrate test at best. The Tegra 2 has already proven to be better at productivity and a has twice the RAM as the ipad 2. Which means higher res textures and with the better CPU better physics with PhysX. SGX is nothing but a tile renderer that fakes what a true T&L engine produces. When you start having more CPU centric games with high res textures we will see who will prevail. Plus the toolset of NVIDIA is MULTIPLE times better and we are already seeing straight PC ports.

in the paper,,tegra 2 should be the weakest among them..
in fact, on the test, tegra 2 is not fall behind.
i still think exynos, a5, c2 snapdragon's performance will be better than tegra2, just the matter of time.
well, tegra2 is good enough. but tegra3 and tegra4 are the ones that take the lead.

Well until those "CPU centric" games you're talking about actually come out, the only thing we can compare it to is what's out there right now. If you want to see the Tegra 2 get shamed by the iPad 2's SGX543... http://www.anandtech.com/show/4216/...rmance-explored-powervr-sgx543mp2-benchmarked
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Again more OpenGL benchmarks that prove nothing, nothing more than a fillrate test at best. The Tegra 2 has already proven to be better at productivity and a has twice the RAM as the ipad 2. Which means higher res textures and with the better CPU better physics with PhysX. SGX is nothing but a tile renderer that fakes what a true T&L engine produces. When you start having more CPU centric games with high res textures we will see who will prevail. Plus the toolset of NVIDIA is MULTIPLE times better and we are already seeing straight PC ports.
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rex-tc said:
Again more OpenGL benchmarks that prove nothing, nothing more than a fillrate test at best.
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The tests are comprehensive and test different parts of the chip/driver. There is a few "real-life" tests, as well as a bunch of synthetic tests.
The Tegra 2 has already proven to be better at productivity and a has twice the RAM as the ipad 2.
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Wait, so the "productivity" tests do prove something Well, I belive the ipad is clocked somewhat lower than T2, so no real surprise there. Trying to differentiate between different Dual-A9 cores might be hard, though, since they are all based on the same design. The only thing I could see Tegra2 had donewas the inclusion of a hardware JPEG decoder on the Tegra2, that might skew the productivity tests a little. On the other hand, they are not including NEON, so for tests that include that, they might be at a loss.
SGX is nothing but a tile renderer that fakes what a true T&L engine produces.
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Do you even know what a tile renderer is? It is not "faking" what a true "T&L engine" produces, it is about not doing rasterization and fragment processing until frames are swapped, thus enabling the use of only a small render buffer (a tile). The only thing it "fakes" is that overdrawn pixels are not fragment processed - but this is also done on non-tilebased to a lesser degree (with early-Z).
By the way, "T&L engine"? There is no hardware "T&L engine" anymore - all is done through shaders nowadays.
When you start having more CPU centric games with high res textures we will see who will prevail.
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If we are talking CPU centric, then Tegra2 will be at a loss because of its lack of NEON (which I belive Exynos supports). I am not sure if the Apple has it, but that is still comparing apples and oranges (different OS) when it comes to benchmarks.
Plus the toolset of NVIDIA is MULTIPLE times better and we are already seeing straight PC ports.
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Could you point me to the toolset? When I googled "tegra2 toolset", this post was the first...
Are we seeing PC ports? Could you mention some names/examples? Any reason why they will not run on non-tegra2?

SlimJ87D said:
You really need to wait for benchmarks on the EVO 3D to come out.
And you really need to see a finalized and optimized (Driver wise) S2.
To make a fair comparison.
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No no no it's important to cherry-pick and declare victory as soon as possible.

I think people need to wait for release of the actual phones before comparing, I mean htc havnt even announced the pyramid an people think its crap because of its in development benchmark, of course scores are going to be crap if its still in development?
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[Q] Would u like Quad or Dual in your next note?

Since the launch of SGS3 is around the corner and the next note will probably come within next few months, I thought of starting this thread to know how many users prefer having Quad Exynos 4 ( similar to SGS3 which is based on A9 arcitecture with Mali 400 GPU built using 32nm manufacturing process) or dual Exynos 5 (A15 architecture with Mali T604 GPU which is based on probably 28nm manufacturing process)in our next Note...
Cast your votes in the poll

You should put a POLL, it would get more people interested. But for me, I'd rather get the A15 with the Mali 604T since A15 is supposedly to be 40% faster than A9 and the Mali 604T will blow the Mali 400 away.

Definitely the dual A15 with Mali 604. No doubt.
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I dont see any benifit by haveing a quad core cpu. Most apps dont even use the duel core.
Cant fault my note at all. So just the new duel will do with less battery drain
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Quad! I don't care if I don't use it, and I don't care if I don't need it.
It just feels good to have that much power in the palm of your hand.
I'll benefit from that much power since I play games and I look forward to more capable emulators in the future.

I don't give a CRAP about the amount of cores!
I want the most speed that's possible, if that would be with dthe dual i take that, if it's with de quad, then thats my way to go...
Can't vote in the poll because i want speed, and since it's not sure wich one is faster i can't vote!
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I think the Exynos 5 will be released @ the end of this year, and the Exynos 4 tomorow
If that's correct i go with the Exynos 4, i hate waiting

what the note lacks is a decent GPU. the current GPU can't efficiently handle the 1280x800 pixels. however what i want more than anything is 1. non-pentile screen that is FLAWLESS and 2. a bigger battery still ~3000 mAh like the RAZR max. I would gladly sacrifice a few mm for a larger battery. I find it stupid how HTC decided to go with a slim and NON-REMOVABLE battery and storage to save a few mm. Seriously? This is why HTC is falling in a deep pit.

Exynos 5 dual, it has more power and is more efficient
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EASILY the A15 with the T-604! Come to papa!

The fastest clock speed and the best GPU is all that matters. 2.2 ghz 2 core with a fab GPU will blow away a 10 core 1.0 ghz with a bad gpu everyday every way.

How about the beast Quad Core A15 Exynos 5450 with Mali T-658? Ok, ok, I know technically it hasn't been built yet and will probably be for tablets, but wouldn't mind seeing it in the Note since it is a tab/phone hybrid.
But as for the current SoC's available now, I would take the A15 dual Exynos 5250 with Mali T-604.
More likely, I think Samsung's road map would be to release the flagship Galaxy S lines (in this case the GS 3) with the latest SoC's, then the next Note (Note 2 in this case) would get a slight spec bump based on the Galaxy S 3 with a faster clocked CPU/GPU combo of the Galaxy S 3 line 6 months later, then the GS4 would get next Gen SoCs with the Note 3 getting a spec bump of the GS 4 SoCs, etc.....

I am sorry.. but this amounts to techie circle jerking..
Quad core processors came out for the PC when not a single application could even use two cores, much less four.. Even today, several years later, for the very very vast majority of applications, it is hard to get a PC to run more that one and a bit processors.. My i7 snoozes, and even cranking up real time low latency audio(a stressful activity)it runs 2 processors at 30% and one at 5%
Therefore I frankly do not care if they put a hamster and a wheel inside the device...as long as the results in operation of the device meets my needs.
So, given my customer needs are for smoother, faster and more reliable operation with better battery life and an enhanced user experience, Samsung can put whatever they want into the device...
In saying that, decisions by the majority of folks are driven by what they think the specifications mean, rather than the impact or result of those specifications in real life usage, so while i am sure its not necessary, a next Note will for sure have a quad core.

With a single core my galaxy s with ics is snappier than my note. Finally its the software I guess.
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Mystic38 said:
I am sorry.. but this amounts to techie circle jerking..
Quad core processors came out for the PC when not a single application could even use two cores, much less four.. Even today, several years later, for the very very vast majority of applications, it is hard to get a PC to run more that one and a bit processors.. My i7 snoozes, and even cranking up real time low latency audio(a stressful activity)it runs 2 processors at 30% and one at 5%
Therefore I frankly do not care if they put a hamster and a wheel inside the device...as long as the results in operation of the device meets my needs.
So, given my customer needs are for smoother, faster and more reliable operation with better battery life and an enhanced user experience, Samsung can put whatever they want into the device...
In saying that, decisions by the majority of folks are driven by what they think the specifications mean, rather than the impact or result of those specifications in real life usage, so while i am sure its not necessary, a next Note will for sure have a quad core.
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I agree. Android multitasking would need to be vastly different than what it is today, and on top of this the RAM specs need a major bump to even begin to show advantages in multi-core processing.
Also like you said, it has not mattered for deskptops and laptops what the real-world benefits are, just what the consumer feels about the value in their purchase. Nowadays it seems people are more concerned with the number of cores as opposed to the clock speed.
I do like the approach that Ti has taken with the OMAP in dedicating low-power cores to low-power functions, and feel that it really has potential in mobile devices, but they seem to be a step behind when it comes to the bigger tasks of mobile processing. Intel being on the cusp of Haswell has me excited to see what they can do in this territory.
Dual Exynos 5 for me at the moment.

It'll be interesting to see how they market this dual core a15 processor because joe public, will always think more cores is better. I do feel though that the note 2 might not have the same internals as the s3, like our notes had the same as the s2. For the note they seemed to put in all the best tech they had on offer at the tine, so if the a15 is ready to go by November time then I think they'll defo use it unless something better is available.

Dual core with speed.
Quad cores mean squat if they slow the primary usage down.

I'd rather get a dual than a quad even if its on the same generation and process so long as it is clocked higher. Give me a smaller process, newer gen chip and better gpu? There is no choice.

Id go for the i7 3960x and gtx 690 if they can squeeze that in the next note but I think I wont get a choice and will just end up with whatever Samsung puts into the note 2.

Mystic38 said:
I am sorry.. but this amounts to techie circle jerking..
Quad core processors came out for the PC when not a single application could even use two cores, much less four.. Even today, several years later, for the very very vast majority of applications, it is hard to get a PC to run more that one and a bit processors.. My i7 snoozes, and even cranking up real time low latency audio(a stressful activity)it runs 2 processors at 30% and one at 5%
Therefore I frankly do not care if they put a hamster and a wheel inside the device...as long as the results in operation of the device meets my needs.
So, given my customer needs are for smoother, faster and more reliable operation with better battery life and an enhanced user experience, Samsung can put whatever they want into the device...
In saying that, decisions by the majority of folks are driven by what they think the specifications mean, rather than the impact or result of those specifications in real life usage, so while i am sure its not necessary, a next Note will for sure have a quad core.
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I agree with you....the main reason I created this thread, because I wanted to know how many members actually know the effect of system architecture and the manufacturing process will affect the day to day performance of the device, battery consumption etc.,it was never about the software but I know it everything comes to the OS how deeply it is integrated with the hardware and how effectively it co-ordinates with them...this is why Apple's devices are snappier than the android...the problem here is Samsung is more concerned about bringing more devices out than focusing on the system's deep integration...so it only comes to the fact that the thread is only about the hardware... but the discussion about the embedded systems is also welcomed....

adelmundo said:
How about the beast Quad Core A15 Exynos 5450 with Mali T-658? Ok, ok, I know technically it hasn't been built yet and will probably be for tablets, but wouldn't mind seeing it in the Note since it is a tab/phone hybrid.
But as for the current SoC's available now, I would take the A15 dual Exynos 5250 with Mali T-604.
More likely, I think Samsung's road map would be to release the flagship Galaxy S lines (in this case the GS 3) with the latest SoC's, then the next Note (Note 2 in this case) would get a slight spec bump based on the Galaxy S 3 with a faster clocked CPU/GPU combo of the Galaxy S 3 line 6 months later, then the GS4 would get next Gen SoCs with the Note 3 getting a spec bump of the GS 4 SoCs, etc.....
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I heard that Note 10.1 tablet is being delayed because Samsung wanted the device with quad than dual...so there is a little chance that the next Hybrid Note will come with some other spec....

Samsung Galaxy SIII - Analysis

Ok, lets get a few things into perspective. I've read a lot of negative posts about this phone so lets go into a more technical analysis on the matter.
CPU : Exynos 4 Quad Core (1.4GHz)
For some reason people seem to think 1.4GHz vs the Tegra 3's 1.5GHz makes the Tegra a faster processor. Not true. Yes, the Tegra has a higher clock speed but performance wise the Exynos 4 at 1.4GHz can out perform it (due to its design). Also, people seem to think the A15 architecture would make a major difference. The A15 architecture was designed to increase power efficiency which is something the Exynos 4 has done by decreasing its dye from 45nm to 32nm (from SII to SIII) and with its nice 2100mAh battery I'm sure you will have all the battery power you need. (since it can be removed I'm sure you will be able to upgrade the battery in the future, something you cannot do with the HTC One X)
Design
What's wrong with plastic? Although you may think plastic is "cheap" it may very well help increase your phones durability since plastic is flexible. Drop a plastic phone on the floor and you will be left with minor scratches, drop a metal and glass phone on the floor and you will be left with a malformed frame, shattered glass and internal damage from the shock not being absorbed. I would also like to know what's wrong with curves? A curved design will fit snug in your hand. As for the colour schemes, I guess they can be left for discussion. Although the pebble blue looks more black than anything.
I quite like its sleek design.
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P.S : Watch this before you judge.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzDwxpFgoDg
Screen
HD Super AMOLED is only possible on pentile displays due to the major resolution change. If the SIII was to have a Super AMOLED+ display it would not be able to brag about its 720p display since at HD resolutions a Plus display is not possible. Super AMOLED+ offers improved detail, but at 720p that detail gain would be practically none because of the extreme pixel density which basically means the HD Super AMOLED displays are far superior than the Super AMOLED Plus Displays.
What is the point in pentile displays?
PenTile RGBG layout uses green pixels interleaved with alternating red and blue pixels. The human eye is most sensitive to green, especially for high resolution luminance information. Thus the RG-BG scheme creates a color display with one third fewer subpixels than a traditional RGB-RGB scheme but with the same measured luminance display resolution (which means your eyes will notice no difference from a AMOLED+ RGB display to a AMOLED RGBG display at the same resolution).
Camera
Why are people complaining about it being 8MP instead of 12MP, the 8MP pictures it takes can be as good if not better than a 12MP image taken from another device. Why? Mega-pixel is the resolution of the image. A crisp 8MP image would look far better than a grainy 12MP image, the actual quality of the image depends on the CCD and I'm pretty sure that would of been upgraded since the SII.
RAM
Oh please... when will you ever use 1GB of RAM...
So lets compare this to the HTC One X (I honestly have nothing against this phone, but I'm just going to be comparing specifications)
CPU : 1.5GHz Tegra 3 vs 1.4GHz Exynos 4
They are both quad-cores so should both be able to run multi-threaded processes very well compared to dual-cores. The Tegra 3 does have its extra core for idling (when its not doing anything) to save battery life although I do feel this would be a bit pointless if the Exynos 4 can just under-clock itself to save battery when idling, this also gives it the ability to still use all four cores for multi-threading even when idling. As for over-clock ability I feel the 40nm Tegra wont clock as well as the 32nm Exynos, a smaller dye will mean less heat which will result it more stable clock speeds. But I guess we will have to wait and see. From my point of view the Exynos wins this.
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[U][B]Galaxy SIII - AnTuTu Benchmark Score[/B][/U]
[B]Score : 11901[/B]
RAM : 3431
CPU Integer : 3999
CPU Float : 3053
2D Graphics : 297
3D Graphics : 1245
Database IO : 550
SD Write : 13.0 MB/s
SD Read : 42.8 MB/s
CPU Frequency : 1400MHz
[B][U]HTC One X - AnTuTu Benchmark Score[/U][/B]
[B]Score : 10539[/B]
RAM : 2169
CPU Integer : 3439
CPU Float : 2543
2D Graphics : 289
3D Graphics : 1209
Database IO : 545
SD Write : 23.8 MB/s
SD Read : 34.3 MB/s
CPU Frequency : 1500MHz
Screen : HD LCD vs HD Super AMOLED
Although they are both at the same resolution the AMOLED screen should be able to out perform the HD LCD screen with its contrast of blacks and whites. The HD LCD screen also needs a back-light to be viewed whereas the AMOLED screen emits its own light which will give it a more natural look and better viewing angles compared to the HD LCD.
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[U][B]HD LCD[/B][/U]
[U]Pros[/U]
- HD Resolution with the RGB stripe array
- Overall less power consumption
[U]Cons[/U]
- Uses a back-light
- Blacks are not true black
[U][B]HD Super AMOLED[/B][/U]
[U]Pros[/U]
- HD Resolution
- Vibrant colours
- Blacks are true blacks
- No back-light
[U]Cons[/U]
- Pentile array (not as sharp as RGB stripe array)
- Overall more power consumption
Although the pentile array means images are not as sharp as the RGB stripe array; at HD resolutions its seriously not noticeable and as for power consumption the HD Super AMOLED screen actually uses dramatically less power when it comes to displaying blacks.
That's about it. So what you have there is a durable phone with the best screen, camera and processor currently available.

Very interesting analysis
Especially for all those guys who mock the phone whenever they can.

I kinda disagree with the RAM argument, considering smartphone nowadays can be compared to a computer, there's no such thing as too much RAM but for other things, I have no complain.
There's just too much haters, either they secretly wants this but have bought other phone so they need to reassure themselves, really arguing just because they can, or plain trolling.

furt890 said:
I kinda disagree with the RAM argument, considering smartphone nowadays can be compared to a computer, there's no such thing as too much RAM but for other things, I have no complain.
There's just too much haters, either they secretly wants this but have bought other phone so they need to reassure themselves, really arguing just because they can, or plain trolling.
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1GB RAM is more than enough. Watch this
HTC One X with its 1GB RAM (same as the Samsung Galaxy SIII)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeMuzSQUdTg
He loads a whole range of memory hungry games without closing their tasks (meaning they will be still loaded in the RAM).

Can the title be changed to SIII please

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1GB RAM is more than enough. Watch this
HTC One X with its 1GB RAM (same as the Samsung Galaxy SIII)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeMuzSQUdTg
He loads a whole range of memory hungry games without closing their tasks (meaning they will be still loaded in the RAM).
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The video shows another aspect Samsung designed good in my opinion. When you look at the 1x screen you can see these 3 little dots there for a menu key.
It not just decreases the screen slightly, I can also see myself accidently clicking on while I'm playing.
In short: I love the hardware menu key!

The new fad at the moment is to hate. If the screen size was same as the note, i would pick it up day 1.
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Ok, lets get a few things into perspective. I've read a lot of negative posts about this phone so lets go into a more technical analysis on the matter.
CPU : Exynos 4 Quad Core (1.4GHz)
For some reason people seem to think 1.4GHz vs the Tegra 3's 1.5GHz makes the Tegra a faster processor. Not true. Yes, the Tegra has a higher clock speed but performance wise the Exynos 4 at 1.4GHz can out perform it (due to its design). Also, people seem to think the A15 architecture would make a major difference. The A15 architecture was designed to increase power efficiency which is something the Exynos 4 has done by decreasing its dye from 45nm to 32nm (from SII to SIII) and with its nice 2100mAh battery I'm sure you will have all the battery power you need. (since it can be removed I'm sure you will be able to upgrade the battery in the future, something you cannot do with the HTC One X)
Design
What's wrong with plastic? Although you may think plastic is "cheap" it may very well help increase your phones durability since plastic is flexible. Drop a plastic phone on the floor and you will be left with minor scratches, drop a metal and glass phone on the floor and you will be left with a malformed frame, shattered glass and internal damage from the shock not being absorbed. I would also like to know what's wrong with curves? A curved design will fit snug in your hand. As for the colour schemes, I guess they can be left for discussion. Although the pebble blue looks more black than anything.
I quite like its sleek design.
Screen
HD Super AMOLED is only possible on pentile displays due to the major resolution change. If the SIII was to have a AMOLED+ display it would not be able to brag about its 720p display since at HD resolutions a Plus display is not possible. AMOLED+ offers improved detail, but at 720p that detail gain would be minimal which basically means the HD Super AMOLED displays are far superior than the AMOLED Plus Displays.
Camera
Why are people complaining about it being 8MP instead of 12MP, the 8MP pictures it takes can be as good if not better than a 12MP image taken from another device. Why? Mega-pixel is the resolution of the image. A crisp 8MP image would look far better than a grainy 12MP image, the actual quality of the image depends on the CCD and I'm pretty sure that would of been upgraded since the SII.
RAM
Oh please... when will you ever use 1GB of RAM...
So lets compare this to the HTC One X (I honestly have nothing against this phone, but I'm just going to be comparing specifications)
CPU : 1.5GHz Tegra 3 vs 1.4GHz Exynos 4
They are both quad-cores so should both be able to run multi-threaded processes very well compared to dual-cores. The Tegra 3 does have its extra core for idling (when its not doing anything) to save battery life although I do feel this would be a bit pointless if the Exynos 4 can just under-clock itself to save battery when idling, this also gives it the ability to still use all four cores for multi-threading even when idling. As for over-clock ability I feel the 40nm Tegra wont clock as well as the 32nm Exynos, a smaller dye will mean less heat which will result it more stable clock speeds. But I guess we will have to wait and see. From my point of view the Exynos wins this.
Screen : HD LCD vs HD Super AMOLED
Although they are both at the same resolution the AMOLED screen should be able to out perform the HD LCD screen with its contrast of blacks and whites. The HD LCD screen also needs a back-light to be viewed whereas the AMOLED screen emits its own light which will give it a more natural look and better viewing angles compared to the HD LCD.
That's about it. So what you have there is a durable phone with the best screen, camera and processor currently available.
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Yeah ur saying right !

Nice analysis !
Can't agree more !
All the trolls => garbage

Haters gonna hate!
touness69 said:
Nice analysis !
Can't agree more !
All the trolls => garbage
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True..
I also did a comparison between HTC One X and SGS3, similar to what OP did here.
You can find it here.

funb0b said:
Can the title be changed to SIII please
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Yes, just a small typo there lol

TheUnkn0wn said:
Ok, lets get a few things into perspective. I've read a lot of negative posts about this phone so lets go into a more technical analysis on the matter.
CPU : Exynos 4 Quad Core (1.4GHz)
For some reason people seem to think 1.4GHz vs the Tegra 3's 1.5GHz makes the Tegra a faster processor. Not true. Yes, the Tegra has a higher clock speed but performance wise the Exynos 4 at 1.4GHz can out perform it (due to its design). Also, people seem to think the A15 architecture would make a major difference. The A15 architecture was designed to increase power efficiency which is something the Exynos 4 has done by decreasing its dye from 45nm to 32nm (from SII to SIII) and with its nice 2100mAh battery I'm sure you will have all the battery power you need. (since it can be removed I'm sure you will be able to upgrade the battery in the future, something you cannot do with the HTC One X)
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First, I should start by saying that I like SGS3
In your analysis you're mixing physical design (32nm vs 40/45nm) and logical design (Cortex A9 vs A15). All cortex A15 SOC's will be made with 32nm or better (e g 28nm), so there won't be any advantage for 4412 in this regard.
The purpose with Cortex A15 is to increase performance (but of course with decent power efficiency). So Cortex A15 is much better than Cortex A9 if you like performance, there is nothing Samsung have made with Exynos 4412 that makes it come closer to A15 performance wise. But in certain benchmarks a quad-core A9 will beat a dual core A15 though.
But A15 will not reach the market before Q3, maybe later, so it was never even close to get into SGS3 anyway.

Agree.

touness69 said:
Nice analysis !
Can't agree more !
All the trolls => garbage
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+1
agree with everything the OP said.
Trolls and haters, no one is forcing you to stay here, you've had your rant now go away and leave those of us who are looking forward to this phone too it.

Very nice analysis. People knee jerked their reaction because their OWN expectations were not met. Samsung did not really hype this device. They did what they always do at launch.
The first thing people did not like was the "look" and in my opinion only, kind of silly for a mobile phone device. To fret about it as if it's something one actually "wears" and further indicates a reflection who one is as a person, in as if a self described "ugly phone" means ugly person to another who accidently sees the offending device But some people are fashion conscious all the way to their cell phones I suppose.
We then find out the form was intended purposely to avoid Apple lawsuits which at the end of the day cost Samsung money in time and personnel whose time can be better spent in the R &D labs coming up with non Apple FUNCTIONS. Like hot swappable SD Cards and batteries. Something Apple (and perhaps now even HTC) will NEVER have.
The phone is better then the SGS II...Better than the Note (except for screen size if that matters). The "form fighters" are the most likely to have purchased and the most disappointed and will eventually realize they have to get on board because many cannot stand they may not have the latest and greatest.
The HTC One X buyers will realized they jumped too soon and the SGS III is indeed the better phone....."Form" and a pentile screen is not enough of a rationalization to overcome their disappointment at not waiting just a little longer.
Their only hope for redemption is when the masses start the real beta test of the SGS III glaring issues start popping up ala the Captivate.

TheUnkn0wn said:
CPU : 1.5GHz Tegra 3 vs 1.4GHz Exynos 4
They are both quad-cores so should both be able to run multi-threaded processes very well compared to dual-cores. The Tegra 3 does have its extra core for idling (when its not doing anything) to save battery life although I do feel this would be a bit pointless if the Exynos 4 can just under-clock itself to save battery when idling, this also gives it the ability to still use all four cores for multi-threading even when idling. As for over-clock ability I feel the 40nm Tegra wont clock as well as the 32nm Exynos, a smaller dye will mean less heat which will result it more stable clock speeds. But I guess we will have to wait and see. From my point of view the Exynos wins this.
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Thank you for a great constructive post without fanboism
I just have a couple of things to say about the Tegra 3 part.
The so called "companion core" is not just for "idling" It's for taking care of the "easy" not so demanding tasks as well such as when are reading you're mails, watching you're pictures, looking on amovie and such.
The great part about that is that the "companion core" is really power efficiant and does'nt need to stress any other core to do the easy tasks.
The other cores work individually dependent on the workload as well.
And why would an CPU do multithreading when idling? Is'nt idling just...idling?
What I want to say is that the Tegras 4 cores behaves just as the exynos 4 cores (if I've done my homework) with the exception that the Tegra has an helper core on top of this.
That being said the Tegra 3 also works @ 1.4ghz when in quad mode. The 1.5ghz part is for single core use as I understand it.
I think the exynos will be an awsome processor though. Im not saying anything else. Just updating som facts

Aja82 said:
And why would an CPU do multithreading when idling? Is'nt idling just...idling
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Even though the phone is in idle there are still threads running, since there are still threads running it can therefore distribute the threads amongst its four cores.
I do like the idea of the companion core to help reduce battery usage, but I know that Android can lower the clock rate of the processor dynamically to work load which would effectively present the same outcome (reduced battery usage).

I laughed at the screen analysis. LCD2 smokes Super Amoled HD. Bit of a biased analysis here... also you fail to recognize that the GSIII's design is horrid. The reason I am so pissed at Samsung is because I've been a GSII user ever since it came out, paid the premium price for it, and its been the best smartphone I've EVER owned. Samsung hyped up the design for the III so much, and they hyped up the whole event with their "sheep" teaser. I'll be a glad owner of a One X, when it comes to AT&T on Sunday.
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S3 is great hardware wise, but the pentile display REALLY IS THE ****. And no bias at all, this is coming from someone who has used a galaxy nexus previously, with the same screen technology and an even slightly higher pixel density if you want to be precise.
Pentile screens have a distinct grid and fuzziness no matter how pixel dense it is. And if you'd think at the nominal viewing distance (about 30 cm), you can't see the fuzziness you'd be really disillusioned. And AMOLEDs pentile or not have this problem, at low brightness levels solid colours, especially grey, causes you to see distinct vertical banding and also extreme fuzziness that makes the screen look like sandpaper. This is the exact reason I forced Samsung to give me a full refund such that I could buy my One X.
Btw a little correction, One X uses IPS LCD tech, one of the best panels in the industry. They call it Super LCD 2 because IPS is a patented technology. IPS loses out in contrast and colours are less saturated as compared for AMOLEDs for sure. But it makes it up with truly high pixel densities with the RGB matrix. And its impeccable, as Steve Jobs says that 300+ dpi with RGB matrix means impossible to see pixels with the naked eye even at 10 cm distance. And also to mention their excellent viewing angles just like AMOLEDs, and their more natural colour reproduction.
Not that I'm trolling, nitpicking or whatsoever. S3 is an awesome phone no doubt. Processor, RAM, camera are very legit arguements. However, just a bit of real experience for those who have never actually experienced a high pixel density pentile AMOLED display in real life and are about to buy this based on what people who compare spec sheets say about it. To be fair I would say its a slight imperfection in an almost flawless phone.
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King Shady said:
I laughed at the screen analysis. LCD2 smokes Super Amoled HD. Bit of a biased analysis here... also you fail to recognize that the GSIII's design is horrid. The reason I am so pissed at Samsung is because I've been a GSII user ever since it came out, paid the premium price for it, and its been the best smartphone I've EVER owned. Samsung hyped up the design for the III so much, and they hyped up the whole event with their "sheep" teaser. I'll be a glad owner of a One X, when it comes to AT&T on Sunday.
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[Info]Galaxy S4 is coming ...don't go for any other phone.

According to an article in Korea times ...s4 will be released in Feb 2013...so most of us who did not upgrade to galaxy s3 should wait about 6 more months to get the most powerful beast in our hands...
http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/tech/2012/09/133_120024.html

This is to destroy the so fana iphone 5 benchmark im sure ,! But please not too big Samsung !
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If they go for anything larger than the S3 they can forget about me buying that.
S3's size is utterly ridiculous (can't find many people who can 100% interact with it with only one hand), anything larger that that will be just sad.
Only thing left is to pray to the electronics god that Google makes their next Nexus in the size of the current one / S2's! can't imagine a better phone size, bigger than the tiny iPhone (yea, talking about the new fella) but easy to play with using one hand only.
if only the'll be able to also make it Super AMOLED Plus (like the S2's non-PenTile, but with S3's resolution).

S4 might not have a screen larger than S3 since the current size distinction gives proper difference between the S and Note lines. If size goes beyond 4.8 will impact sales of either of them.
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The more I use my S2..the more I feel it's the perfect size. I had a GNex for a bit and it was just a tad too wide. I think something the size of the s2 with a edge to edge screen would be great.

Yeah then we wait for the S5 next year :banghead: and S6 the year after that
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S4? U kidding they have to dump a huge number of S3 into market.. After huge success of this they ll plan for S3 with Dual sim then when competitors move to hexa core or jump into 2GB RAM then they start S4 may be,,
My wishlist for S4-
1. Quad core 2GHZ preferably Tegra 3 .
2. 2GB RAM with nVidia GPU.
3. 4.3" Super AMOLED HD display with 720*1280 res (Enough )
4. Design of S2 is must( Best designed phone)
5. Aluminum casing for back cover with S logo.
6. 12 MP camera carl zeiss.. (Nokia Fan)

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Prashanthme said:
S4? U kidding they have to dump a huge number of S3 into market.. After huge success of this they ll plan for S3 with Dual sim then when competitors move to hexa core or jump into 2GB RAM then they start S4 may be,,
My wishlist for S4-
1. Quad core 2GHZ preferably Tegra 3 .
2. 2GB RAM with nVidia GPU.
3. 4.3" Super AMOLED HD display with 720*1280 res (Enough )
4. Design of S2 is must( Best designed phone)
5. Aluminum casing for back cover with S logo.
6. 12 MP camera carl zeiss.. (Nokia Fan)
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May I ask, why Nvidia GPU? I should say that most benchmarks say that our mali-400mp4 clocked at 266mhz is just as powerful as the full clocked tegra 3 gpu variant, plus we have a much lower resolution screen than any tegra 3 powered deice I have ever seen, meaning our device can end up playing better games that quite a few of the devices with the tegra chip in it. Like with full effects enabled on dead trigger, it is so much smoother than my nexus 7 with it's gpu overclocked from 416mhz to 520mhz. Personally I would take the overclocked 440mhz mali-400mp4 in the s3 anyday over any nividia GPU. Althoug, the gpu going to be used in some of the new exynos 5 chips which should power the s4, looks incredible.

Prashanthme said:
My wishlist for S4-
1. Quad core 2GHZ preferably Tegra 3 .
2. 2GB RAM with nVidia GPU.
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Pfff......The exynos 4212 and MALI 400MP still kicks tegra 3 a** and the S4 will have a exynos 5250 with mali t604 which is a total BEAST.

sahibunlimited said:
Pfff......The exynos 4212 and MALI 400MP still kicks tegra 3 a** and the S4 will have a exynos 5250 with mali t604 which is a total BEAST.
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Because I saw my friends Nexus 7 which played dead trigger more finely and smoother(Even mine was smoother ) so i thought tegra would be nice. Is S4 confirmed?

Like I give a ****.
Seriously, the longer I wait for Jelly Bean, the more I want a Nexus.
Besides that I hope they won't make the screen any bigger. Otherwise we'll run around with 11" smartphones and 17" tablets very soon.
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Prashanthme said:
Because I saw my friends Nexus 7 which played dead trigger more finely and smoother(Even mine was smoother ) so i thought tegra would be nice. Is S4 confirmed?
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Dead trigger is optimized from tegra 3 and the mali400 in s2 is a bit weaker from terga 3's gpu

TheSniperFan said:
Like I give a ****.
Seriously, the longer I wait for Jelly Bean, the more I want a Nexus.
Besides that I hope they won't make the screen any bigger. Otherwise we'll run around with 11" smartphones and 17" tablets very soon.
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Ya ur rite S2 is the Best screen size which fits perfectly in hand.. mainly robust Tablets max 10"

well samsung wants to keep a one year product schedule so its not news,but this reports states the phone will be 5 inches from 4.8, i wonder if the note will be bigger

According to Sammobile latest news, Samsung denied an S IV release in february or march. Link from source: http://sammyhub.com/2012/09/18/samsung-debunks-galaxy-s-iv-rumor/. Another link is http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_responds_to_galaxy_s_iv_rumors_debunks_them-news-4819.php

If someone released a 4inch Nexus with good hardware and a solid build I'd be all over it like a rash.
Instead the phones are getting too big and too ugly. I've never had an iPhone but I can see the appeal. You invest in an iPhone 5 now and you're guaranteed long term software support and your device maintains its value. I'm sick of all these phones coming out that feel outdated and forgotten in 6 - 12 months. Who do you hear saying "don't buy an iphone 5 the iphone 6 is coming out next year".

jackierobinson said:
If someone released a 4inch Nexus with good hardware and a solid build I'd be all over it like a rash.
Instead the phones are getting too big and too ugly. I've never had an iPhone but I can see the appeal. You invest in an iPhone 5 now and you're guaranteed long term software support and your device maintains its value. I'm sick of all these phones coming out that feel outdated and forgotten in 6 - 12 months. Who do you hear saying "don't buy an iphone 5 the iphone 6 is coming out next year".
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Sadly you're kinda right.
I've already made my decision. My next phone will be a Nexus, period.
I could forgive the longer wait for updates, if I'd actually use them. At the moment the only reason I'm waiting for updates is because the cm team can make a proper one with those.
There is only one manufacturer that does great modifications to android, but those phones aren't available here. :'(
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News that the successor to the successor to the GT-I9100 might or might not be announced at Barcelona in 6 months doesn't really belong in this forum.
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