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DEVS! Would it be possible to use a FroYo Kernel for CM7 like the Droid X Developers did?
DON'T TROLL! IF YOU DO, THE MODS WILL SEE IT AND BAN YOU!
As we all know, the last Thread that involved CM7 Development for the Epic was closed because people got Off-Topic, so I decided to start this one just so we know where developing is going. This is just for those people who don't know how to read Github or don't want to check it every 3 seconds, and are okay with waiting a week for getting an update.
Please PLEASE PLEASE, DO NOT ASK FOR ETA'S! I know that someone will ask, but seriously. DO NOT ASK. It's annoying as hell. If the developers know when a release would happen, they'd tell us. Trust me, they would. But developing for our phone is difficult.
They can't Port something from the Vibrant or the Captivate because their GSM Phones and we're CDMA, meaning we use different signals or some crap like that. But I think it means that 3G and Calls and all of that would be hard to work on, not to mention 4G.
4G is an issue because it's something not many phones have, especially in the Galaxy S line. Remember that we're one of the original Galaxy S Phones, so we have it, and the Captivate, Vibrant, and Fascinate don't. This makes stuff even harder because then the developers have one more thing on their list to work on, that they never had before.
From what I saw last time, nullghost was trying to port the Nexus S 4G .35 Kernel. This is a Gingerbread Kernel. Remember that the Nexus S 4G is a STOCK GINGERBREAD phone, with no TouchWiz. The Kernel is just the thing that connects the software with the hardware, so this might also be hard because we have a keyboard and most other phones don't (I don't know if this really effects it, but from my prior experiences from Android, it does).
Lets say the Kernel gets Ported. The NS4G has 4G (no kidding). Don't quote me, but I think that'd get the camera working because obviously the camera is a piece of hardware, that should get 4G working because the the NS4G has it. GPS should probably work, although I'm sure that works if you use the GPS Status Method, and I'm not too sure about MMS and what the issue is with that.
Now, when I check Github, it appears as if the developers have stopped working? I mean, props to them for all they've done for us, but if I'm reading github properly, it seems as if they've taken a break (please correct me if I'm wrong).
Really. The only big problem we have is with people who won't stop asking for ETA's. Please, just don't ask. You'll cause more problems then you will help if you do get a reply.
And if anybody has any questions about the CM7-A4, feel free to ask them here. You should however check the closed Thread. It might be locked, but there's a reason it's not deleted, you can still read it, so please do.
Remember, no asking for ETA's. Just don't do it. Any questions, check the older Thread and in a few days or weeks what should be this Thread. Also check Github. No ETA's. Keep this on task, no gangster stuff. Kthnxbye.
Original Android <3ers! said:
DON'T TROLL! IF YOU DO, THE MODS WILL SEE IT AND BAN YOU!
As we all know, the last Thread that involved CM7 Development for the Epic was closed because people got Off-Topic, so I decided to start this one just so we know where developing is going. This is just for those people who don't know how to read Github or don't want to check it every 3 seconds, and are okay with waiting a week for getting an update.
Please PLEASE PLEASE, DO NOT ASK FOR ETA'S! I know that someone will ask, but seriously. DO NOT ASK. It's annoying as hell. If the developers know when a release would happen, they'd tell us. Trust me, they would. But developing for our phone is difficult.
They can't Port something from the Vibrant or the Captivate because their GSM Phones and we're CDMA, meaning we use different signals or some crap like that. But I think it means that 3G and Calls and all of that would be hard to work on, not to mention 4G.
4G is an issue because it's something not many phones have, especially in the Galaxy S line. Remember that we're one of the original Galaxy S Phones, so we have it, and the Captivate, Vibrant, and Fascinate don't. This makes stuff even harder because then the developers have one more thing on their list to work on, that they never had before.
From what I saw last time, nullghost was trying to port the Nexus S 4G .35 Kernel. This is a Gingerbread Kernel. Remember that the Nexus S 4G is a STOCK GINGERBREAD phone, with no TouchWiz. The Kernel is just the thing that connects the software with the hardware, so this might also be hard because we have a keyboard and most other phones don't (I don't know if this really effects it, but from my prior experiences from Android, it does).
Lets say the Kernel gets Ported. The NS4G has 4G (no kidding). Don't quote me, but I think that'd get the camera working because obviously the camera is a piece of hardware, that should get 4G working because the the NS4G has it. GPS should probably work, although I'm sure that works if you use the GPS Status Method, and I'm not too sure about MMS and what the issue is with that.
Now, when I check Github, it appears as if the developers have stopped working? I mean, props to them for all they've done for us, but if I'm reading github properly, it seems as if they've taken a break (please correct me if I'm wrong).
Really. The only big problem we have is with people who won't stop asking for ETA's. Please, just don't ask. You'll cause more problems then you will help if you do get a reply.
And if anybody has any questions about the CM7-A4, feel free to ask them here. You should however check the closed Thread. It might be locked, but there's a reason it's not deleted, you can still read it, so please do.
Remember, no asking for ETA's. Just don't do it. Any questions, check the older Thread and in a few days or weeks what should be this Thread. Also check Github. No ETA's. Keep this on task, no gangster stuff. Kthnxbye.
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i disagree with the dont ask about ETA.
I think that if you announce that you are working on something then people have a right to ask for an eta.
People should be informed as to what is going on both good and bad...
While it can get to be like are we their yet thing... but then i would say you should have never announced something to begin with.
There's a reason I made that rule. If you look at every other CM7 Thread for the Epic, their closed because of ETA's. Don't even attempt to question what I have posted, it's based on fact.
daddy_droid said:
i disagree with the dont ask about ETA.
I think that if you announce that you are working on something then people have a right to ask for an eta.
People should be informed as to what is going on both good and bad...
While it can get to be like are we their yet thing... but then i would say you should have never announced something to begin with.
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In other news....
I heard the Droid X has Cyanogenmod mostly working with it's stock 2.2 kernel. I wonder what all the Droid X devs had to do to make it work.
With the 2.3 kernel source being so close to fruition, it probably isn't worth it to give their method a try but if samsung can't get gingerbread working in the next couple of months it might be worth a shot.
And queue take 3... omfg, when will people learn, this is not to debate ETA.
Original Android <3ers! said:
There's a reason I made that rule. If you look at every other CM7 Thread for the Epic, their closed because of ETA's. Don't even attempt to question what I have posted, it's based on fact.
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really not allowed to talk about that? Since when can someone else take away my free speech rights to ask when something is gonna to be released? If you dont want to answer a question for eta then just dont reply to it. After all no one is making you reply to anything.
If you HAVE NOTHING TO SHARE DONT POST IN DEVELOPMENT.
I'm trying to be honest with you and save you from being flamed. Did you even read the first post? The devs don't have the kernel source for the Epic 2.3.3 or beyond, nor do they have it for the Nexus S 4G, so until then, they have to stop developing because they cannot do ANYTHING without it. So an answer to an ETA is never.
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In other news....
I heard the Droid X has Cyanogenmod mostly working with it's stock 2.2 kernel. I wonder what all the Droid X devs had to do to make it work.
With the 2.3 kernel source being so close to fruition, it probably isn't worth it to give their method a try but if samsung can't get gingerbread working in the next couple of months it might be worth a shot.
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I think this would be a good idea while we wait for the Kernel source actually...
nullghost mentioned that CM6 would be in the same state as CM 7. Idk why, but yea.
No no, we're saying use the FroYo Kernel for CM7!
Original Android <3ers! said:
No no, we're saying use the FroYo Kernel for CM7!
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Oh damn it, reading comprehension! My bad, my bad, continue the thread. Devs: could this also be possible?
Darkshneider said:
Oh damn it, reading comprehension! My bad, my bad, continue the thread. Devs: could this also be possible?
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No.
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Original Android <3ers! said:
No no, we're saying use the FroYo Kernel for CM7!
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Fail. We've attempted this. A lot of the updated proprietary modules from gb and necessary for gb require updated kernel drivers which are present in .35 and would require more work to backport than what we're doing now.
We also do have NS4G source, we kanged everything we could from it.
We are lacking proper regulator sauce along with the branched victory gpio assignments which we can only fire blanks at right now since they have a completely new naming scheme in the aries(.35) tree.
If you want to know why these threads are closed, it's because I send requests that they be closed.
Why?
Because the participants in the threads usually spend more time speculating about possible scenarios rather than reading or asking 'good' questions.
In short, we're waiting on .35 release; then we'll either A) merge the victory bits to the unified aries tree or B) merge cm specific bits from aries to our victory sauce.
That's that.
The reason being? I dont get how theres source for 2.2 and we cant get CM6, how would 2.3 source help us get CM7 working?
And I got my answer while typing because of Deca. Thnx!
Decad3nce said:
Fail. We've attempted this. A lot of the updated proprietary modules from gb and necessary for gb require updated kernel drivers which are present in .35 and would require more work to backport than what we're doing now.
We also do have NS4G source, we kanged everything we could from it.
We are lacking proper regulator sauce along with the branched victory gpio assignments which we can only fire blanks at right now since they have a completely new naming scheme in the aries(.35) tree.
If you want to know why these threads are closed, it's because I send requests that they be closed.
Why?
Because the participants in the threads usually spend more time speculating about possible scenarios rather than reading or asking 'good' questions.
In short, we're waiting on .35 release; then we'll either A) merge the victory bits to the unified aries tree or B) merge cm specific bits from aries to our victory sauce.
That's that.
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So you don't like me?
Original Android <3ers! said:
So you don't like me?
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I don't mind you, your motives are good, but this environment fosters redundant and pointless poo flingin'. Which usually leads to us responding with the same information, over and over.
Original Android <3ers! said:
So you don't like me?
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Great way to lose another Dev.
Remember Konane? I really liked him. It's such a pitty.
Decadence, I appreciate your hard work. I'm sorry for causing this. I know you have done what you can and are working as hard as is possible, please don't be deterred by these threads. Some of us really do appreciate your work.
lynyrd65 said:
Great way to lose another Dev. Remember Konane? I really liked him. It's such a pitty.
Decadence, I appreciate your hard work. I'm sorry for causing this. I know you have done what you can and are working as hard as is possible, please don't be deterred by these threads. Some of us really do appreciate your work.
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I'm not deterred. Far from it. Maybe bored since I only have one summer class and way too much free time to stare at proprietary bits :|
Decad3nce said:
I'm not deterred. Far from it. Maybe bored since I only have one summer class and way too much free time to stare at proprietary bits :|
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Developers tend to support developers.
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Hi.....
As you see,the forum for this phone going to die.....
I'm very sad cause i decide to buy this phone ,,,,i have also an lg p500 and at its forum is very good you can find anything you want,people are trying to help you with their replies,and so much people who developes roms ......
I buy u8800 pro and jumped at this forum and see that ,,,,no help, no developing,,no developers,,4 kinds of u8800 and i can't believe that we dont have developers working anymore......
Please ,european developers do something ,,,,,,genocolar leave us and i think that making roms only for china......now nobody developes anything.......
Can someone work for u8800 pro please????
I buy pro version cause its better and i saw that all the good work is for u8800 only.....now the developers abandoned us and owners of u8800 pro ask one each other to find a solution about their problems,but nothing anymore ......
I'm really really sad about the situation here....better not buying pro but the normal one,,i dont now
Sorry if i offended anyone and for my english,but i see no future here....
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Yes, sadly I agree with you. I have a U8800-51 and no support what so ever. That is why I'm going to buy another phone that I know has alot of support. That being said... I can not blame the dev's for not wanting to work on this phone at all. It's not as easy as just changing and swapping a few lib files to make things work. It takes a lot of work... unpaid work and time out of there busy family life to sort through things and find solutions to the problems especially when as you even stated so many different U8800 and they are all different and to my knowledge no source code to work with. So when an unpaid dev doesn't find the fun in one project anymore they move on to something 'they' like. Yes it sucks for us but we are at the mercy of the devs. I thank them for trying and for doing what they have already accomplished. As the dev's are moving on... so am I.
Of course we thank them for their work and respect them....all i said is, that at this forum you can see that mess.....
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Yes, huawei have made a bit of a mess with this phone by releasing a ton of different versions which makes dev work difficult, but it is still a good budget phone and very capable.
*Don't winge about it, do something about it. Help keep the wiki up to date so it is easy to find things. This can be done by anyone. Report messy or misplaced threads to original ganjaman, he is the admin for this forum, he can keep it in line. Also if Geno is only updating on chinese forums now, ask if you can update his progress here for him.
*Learn to develop. There are plenty of dev's who will offer help if you ask. I knew nothing about how android worked a few months ago, now I have made a custom kernel and rom for the u8150 and am looking at how things work on the u8800. It is not easy, but it is possible.
*Dont just look at this forum and assume nothing is happening because roms have not had an update in a week. If you follow the devs on google plus/ facebook/ twitter/etc, you will see there is a lot going on. Also one look on github confirms there is a lot of kernel dev stuff happening still especially around the .35 kernel.
*Give it time, it takes a long time to develop and port roms, it doesn't happen overnight.
*Thank your devs for their time and work. If they feel appreciated, they will continue work. If everyone just pisses and moans, they won't.
i have just read a similar post on androidworld.it
i have a LG P500 and a Huawei U8800PRO, i made 2 custom roms for the P500 (iridium and blackbird) and actually i am waiting for a few mb of u8800pro sources from genokolar. i hope he will upload them on his github so i will be able to start building an AOSP 2.3.7 rom for u8800pro
this forum won't die....the u8800pro has just been released in countries like Italy, and many people bought it. I hope that among those people there will be someone with enough skills to develop.
PaulMilbank said:
Yes, huawei have made a bit of a mess with this phone by releasing a ton of different versions which makes dev work difficult, but it is still a good budget phone and very capable.
*Don't winge about it, do something about it. Help keep the wiki up to date so it is easy to find things. This can be done by anyone. Report messy or misplaced threads to original ganjaman, he is the admin for this forum, he can keep it in line. Also if Geno is only updating on chinese forums now, ask if you can update his progress here for him.
*Learn to develop. There are plenty of dev's who will offer help if you ask. I knew nothing about how android worked a few months ago, now I have made a custom kernel and rom for the u8150 and am looking at how things work on the u8800. It is not easy, but it is possible.
*Dont just look at this forum and assume nothing is happening because roms have not had an update in a week. If you follow the devs on google plus/ facebook/ twitter/etc, you will see there is a lot going on. Also one look on github confirms there is a lot of kernel dev stuff happening still especially around the .35 kernel.
*Give it time, it takes a long time to develop and port roms, it doesn't happen overnight.
*Thank your devs for their time and work. If they feel appreciated, they will continue work. If everyone just pisses and moans, they won't.
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Well done,,now i have two replies,,when i ask something about the phone,,no replies at all ,,,that' s good. ...
Karagiozako......
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matteof93 said:
i have just read a similar post on androidworld.it
i have a LG P500 and a Huawei U8800PRO, i made 2 custom roms for the P500 (iridium and blackbird) and actually i am waiting for a few mb of u8800pro sources from genokolar. i hope he will upload them on his github so i will be able to start building an AOSP 2.3.7 rom for u8800pro
this forum won't die....the u8800pro has just been released in countries like Italy, and many people bought it. I hope that among those people there will be someone with enough skills to develop.
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Matteo, i know you and your work with lg p500 cause i'm a proud owner of lg p500 phone and i got it till now,,,i use cosmicXperia v3.5 ......
I have u8800 pro for 6 days only and after some reading about gingerbread update and functionality, i decided to root mine without updated to 2.3 and now i use it like that .....
Stock rom ....froyo 2.2.2
Recovery v5.0.2.7
O/C kernel from genocolar (.32)
I create init.d folder in system/etc and put inside loopysmoothness tweaks,,some other knzo's tweaks ,98 kickasskernel and z89uncapfps,,
Also i edit build.prop with some knzo's scripts and more...
Also i make 4 themes in the kitchen with circular battery icons,transparent status bar,etc.... and i'm trying now to change framework but no success with ninjamorph which i tried till now.......
I'm very happy with functionality till know and the gameplay with pes 2012 and modern compat black pegasus is perfect.....
My benchmarks scores with O/C 245/1613 smartass v2 ,,io bfq, are....
Neocore ..55.5 - 55.6 fps
Quadrant advanced...2850 - 3025
Antutu (without sd card)...3440 - 3550
I'm glad till now but i don't see future .......
Hope now that you are here ,that we'll see some light in the tunnel...
(Kargiola nicolouli)
Thanks for reading my post matteo and i allready see that you post two usefull threads till now......
Congrats......
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gkalenis said:
Well done,,now i have two replies,,when i ask something about the phone,,no replies at all ,,,that' s good. ...
Karagiozako......
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What did you want to know?
gkalenis said:
Well done,,now i have two replies,,when i ask something about the phone,,no replies at all ,,,that' s good. ...
Karagiozako......
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gkalenis said:
Hope now that you are here ,that we'll see some light in the tunnel...
(Kargiola nicolouli)
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Hahaha to xperia neo v h to galaxy s eprepe na pareis file kai gw malakia ekana p viastika.
You should have bought samsung galaxy s or xperia neo v Calm Down
It would be great if someone could split the Development Forum by models! It's getting impossible to use the Development section because there's 4 models in the same place, it's just hard to find what we want! What's the problem of splitting that? Some mod said that he didn't have the permission to do that but if a mod don't, who does? :s
I just don't understand what's so hard about it, since it's every user's wish!
If i now that the pro model wouldn't have the supporting of the devs probably i wouldn't by it to!
I feel you gkalenis but now it's too late! A week ago i played with the idea to sell the pro and go for the galaxy s but finally i stay with the pro with or without the customs roms!
Tapawhat
I think brand new MIUI .35 port is awakening the development. Also I guess devs can port to all 8800s if they have sources...
i agree with users who say that this forum should be divided into categories (u8800pro and u8800) but if you need a forum where everything is simple and clear (only because it was created a month ago) go here (it is only about the u8800pro).
about developers: as i said i am waiting for geno's sources....if you will help me building gb 2.3.7 maybe we will have a good AOSP rom
PS: please do not compare this device with P500, LG O1 got an incredible support from devs like paolom70, andy572, franciscofranco, fserve, ciaox and many others who have done a precious work, better then LG's engineers.
For those asking about the forum split. This is a ongoing issue that keeps being raised. I agree with you, they should be split. I even asked about it in the mod forum. The response i got was that users of that forum require going through the correct channels. This evolves posting in the requests forum here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1416406
I hope you have all read the read before posting sticky in the development thread. Because all of this info is in there.
Now, all vote for the split. I hope it happens, it will make my job a Lot easier.
I hope this helps
Your friendly moderator
To the OP, sorry, didn't mean to jump down your throat. I know it can be annoying to have a problem with a phone which nobody online can help solve.
At last we have a separate section for u8800 pro
Congratulations
That's good
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Wohoo! Very great news.
Sent from my U8800
Result, thanks mod's
Where is u8800 pro section???
I hope you check that there are some other threads which still staying in u8800 section and you try to fix this.......
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gkalenis said:
Where is u8800 pro section???
I hope you check that there are some other threads which still staying in u8800 section and you try to fix this.......
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Here it is http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1466
I am really happy this split has happened. I hope it draws a end to the problems. Thanks for all who followed my instructions and voted!
I will move some of the pro dev posts tomorrow. If you need any moving, let me know, dont start double posting.
Peace!
http://developer.nvidia.com/tegra-resources Nvidia just released images of Ics 4.0 for Tegra 2 based phones, do you think this can help our community?
Well this looks exciting - here's hoping it's of some use!
Wrong section folk. We already know of it, relax!
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I am so excited!!
Yeah, good for "Nvidea"
now if only "someone" gets a .39 or 3.x kernel to work for the atrix!
I just want to point out how easy a simple search can return results. All I did was enter "developer.nvidia" (from the link you posted) and I got back a fair amount of results that include:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=21723572&postcount=726
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=21696714&postcount=50
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=21716186&postcount=59
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=21699953&postcount=1
All of which were posted before you started this thread. Which I feel happens to be in the wrong section but that's not my job to decide that, I really wanted to emphasize the redundancy of your thread.
euplio said:
http://developer.nvidia.com/tegra-resources Nvidia just released images of Ics 4.0 for Tegra 2 based phones, do you think this can help our community?
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Hey guys and girlz,
as many of you know, the developement for our device is not that great and fast because everybody (except from ivendor and arco and maybe some others) is working alone on a ROM/kernel. We could speed this up by building a dev team where all devs for our device and maybe from galaxy w can work together and improve ROM for ROM instead of doing each ROM alone.
Hope we can do this :good:
If anybody is interested, post it here or PM me
Greets and regards,
markey
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markey97 said:
Hey guys and girlz,
as many of you know, the developement for our device is not that great and fast because everybody (except from ivendor and arco and maybe some others) is working alone on a ROM/kernel. We could speed this up by building a dev team where all devs for our device and maybe from galaxy w can work together and improve ROM for ROM instead of doing each ROM alone.
Hope we can do this :good:
If anybody is interested, post it here or PM me
Greets and regards,
markey
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Hm. Mate are you blind? Look at this forum. We have a lot of roms, some are even twice there from 2 different developers.
For me, personally its perfect like it is. Arco and Ivendor as lead developers for CM10. Other devs can contribute or take their work and make a new rom out of it.
Especially for a almost 2 years old device our forum is really awesome and you should be happy for what weve got here.
Just my 2 cents.
P.s: This is the development section. You should ask things like that on the General section, in the i9001 thread.
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XeLLaR* said:
Hm. Mate are you blind? Look at this forum. We have a lot of roms, some are even twice there from 2 different developers.
For me, personally its perfect like it is. Arco and Ivendor as lead developers for CM10. Other devs can contribute or take their work and make a new rom out of it.
Especially for a almost 2 years old device our forum is really awesome and you should be happy for what weve got here.
Just my 2 cents.
P.s: This is the development section. You should ask things like that on the General section, in the i9001 thread.
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First of all, i appreciate all the work of ivendor , skywalker, brood, xistance and arco and others who did an amazing job of porting major roms to our device. But i must honestly say, i agree on some points with the OP. It is amazing with what we achieved on our small but awesome community, but our phone is getting old and eventually we will be left behind. So now it is the best time to combine all of the knowledge that is hidden in our i9001 section to ensure the future.
In the past year i have been in this section i saw a lot of stuff that could be fixed faster if people would communicate more, like the well known cm9 camera problem (i dont know for sure there was miscommunication as i dont know what happened in the background). A dev team would be awesome.
But i am afraid that this won't work anymore. The glorious days of the i9001 are over. Many good devs left us.
But is is worth the shot. Would be so awesome! If you have any android knowledge, please join.
(I am to stupid. I cant join. I know how qtADB works but that is all).
Also i like the idea of combining the two devices and make a giant dev team for both so we can benefit from there knowledge and they from ours!
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XeLLaR* said:
Hm. Mate are you blind? Look at this forum. We have a lot of roms, some are even twice there from 2 different developers.
For me, personally its perfect like it is. Arco and Ivendor as lead developers for CM10. Other devs can contribute or take their work and make a new rom out of it.
Especially for a almost 2 years old device our forum is really awesome and you should be happy for what weve got here.
Just my 2 cents.
P.s: This is the development section. You should ask things like that on the General section, in the i9001 thread.
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No i'm not, otherwise I couldn't have read the forum and written this here
(Just joking)
I know that we have a lot of ROMs, but there are some from 2 different developers because one of them hasn't updated very long or stopped the project and then a new dev took the work.
Thats your personal opinion and I accept it.
I mean this all because of the bugs that have to be fixed.
No its not that awesome, look at the dhd, they have a big dev team who solves most of the bugs there and they have fully functional Android 4.2 and MANY more ROMs than we have also have a look at some other 2 or more year old devices, most of them have big dev teams who do fast and great work.
I really appreciate the work of all our developers (!!we have a 3.4 kernel which even much newer and better devices don't have!!) but we can make this even better and faster.
Thanks i know this but in general section we couldn't get a team together and i also forgot about this section because i mostly (nearly only) use the developement section
Greets and regards,
markey
I seem to agree with xellar's view. Our I9001 forum is great as it is for a two year old device and development seems to be moving forward at a well-placed pace. I dont see any point in creating a ''dev team'' . Dont get me wrong , I'd love to see it happen. But Im comfortable with the pace here .
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I would also apreciate a dev. BUT the developement of the last 2 years was that good, that i can't comlpain on anything. It works very well the way it goes now. Maybe in the near future (~6 moths) when more importent (doesn't mean the other are unimportant) devs leave the s+ and 5.0 will be roll out, maybe then we need a dev-team.
But we have already s.t. like dev-teams:
Arco and Ivendor (CM9/10)
The kernel devs (Erik, castagna, Biagio, Christopher, ...)
Xistance and Doom (CM10.1)
They all share allready there knowledge and function.
So... No need to hurry in my opinion :beer:
"...nothing is more powerful than a young boy's wish. Except an Apache helicopter..." -Ted
i think we have a lack of devs contributing to really port the newer versions of android. its only arco and ivendor who are doing this and since arco wanted to concentrate more on his own device its only ivendor (arco is yet still involved with our phone). everyone else is "just" forking from ivendor, aokp, aosp and paranoid which is great and which is not necessarily easy. without them there would be nothing else but the cm rom. still its not comparable to ivendors or arcos work. i dont want to diminish the importance of the work of others (sadly i have to always mention it when saying things like that...). i just didn't see them commit to ivendors github and ivendors credits concede my point.
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I'd love to be in the team
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i think we have a lack of devs contributing to really port the newer versions of android. its only arco and ivendor who are doing this and since arco wanted to concentrate more on his own device its only ivendor (arco is yet still involved with our phone). everyone else is "just" forking from ivendor, aokp, aosp and paranoid which is great and which is not necessarily easy. without them there would be nothing else but the cm rom. still its not comparable to ivendors or arcos work. i dont want to diminish the importance of the work of others (sadly i have to always mention it when saying things like that...). i just didn't see them commit to ivendors github and ivendors credits concede my point.
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As true as this is, I still don't like the fact that you say we just fork their work. Both arco and ivendor haven't even started doing any real work on 4.2, forget giving us anything. Camcory and I have brought 4.2 by ourselves, just using arco's kernel source(which is REALLY important so I'm saying nothing to arco).
you probably saw what a mess the "perfectly working cm7" was even though mazen said hes not a real developer. when the 3.4 kernel came up it turned out to be not properly ported. no offense to both of those guys since cm7 actually was usable and the kernel had its right to exist (educk, if you read this, no need to defend yourself, i've read the whole thread).
but you must understand that im kind of suspicious with new things since i don't know if you know what youre doing. im not judging, i really don't know because i'm not qualified. also i dont see anything else going on on your github but your 4.2 porting. so i cant see any references. i also dont see any commits from camcory. thats another thing i cant get an opinion about.
but arco and ivendor have proven to be pretty skilled. i remember someone saying we would never have a 3.x kernel because someone who wanted to port it would be insane...
im still thankful for what youre doing since if ivendor quits its all on you
and im sorry you got in the "just forking" cathegory and everybody else who doesn't feel he belongs there. im just generalizing...
just actually saw your sig. still doesn't change much
dr.wtf said:
you probably saw what a mess the "perfectly working cm7" was even though mazen said hes not a real developer. when the 3.4 kernel came up it turned out to be not properly ported. no offense to both of those guys since cm7 actually was usable and the kernel had its right to exist (educk, if you read this, no need to defend yourself, i've read the whole thread).
but you must understand that im kind of suspicious with new things since i don't know if you know what youre doing. im not judging, i really don't know because i'm not qualified. also i dont see anything else going on on your github but your 4.2 porting. so i cant see any references. i also dont see any commits from camcory. thats another thing i cant get an opinion about.
but arco and ivendor have proven to be pretty skilled. i remember someone saying we would never have a 3.x kernel because someone who wanted to port it would be insane...
im still thankful for what youre doing since if ivendor quits its all on you
and im sorry you got in the "just forking" cathegory and everybody else who doesn't feel he belongs there. im just generalizing...
just actually saw your sig. still doesn't change much
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Only one thing to say:: does not make any sense at all...
What op asked is on team..wats happening here is just nonsense..if somebody interested to work with him pls do it..if u are not interested get the f** k out of here...its not must that each and everyone has to put their point of view..if u are ready to help then help..otherwise leave from this thread...simple....
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This thread needs to be closed. Its like a slap in the face for all of our developers. Shame on you! Show some respect to them. They sacrifiy a lot time to give us a better user experience for our phones but well, everyone is like "hurrdhurr dat fone is not even like a galaxy s3 now brah after flasching tis rom my fone suks bad ass".. Instead of saying thanks to the developers or donate some buck to them for a fresh beer or something.
Always remember this is a single core device, with a midrange chipset and it cant handle even close as much as a S3 or S2.
We have a fully working (vsync and tripple buffer are working and all ither stuff) Jellybean cm10. Not even the s2 or s3 have this because of the lack of sources for their exynos cpus.
I hate this unrepectless behavior.
Be happy with what you got here FOR FREE. And for a Non-flagship device like our i9001, we have A HELL OF A LOT roms and kernels!
Get your **** together people.
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Disrespectfull: YES understandeble: YES.
At our forum/development we got 1-person teams. Some ROMS are made with someone on the background (CM9/CM10/CM10.1).. But the other ROMS that are based on these are made and maintained by 1 person.
I got the feeling that some of us dont have PATIENCE..
And that is something what is very stupid.
Teams are working faster and fixing faster and better bugs in ROMS, that is true.
If the OP want to make a team just ask some developers for godssake. These topic are as disrespectfull as saying WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO UPDATE OR FIXING THIS OR THAT in every goddamm topic.
Just my opnion..
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you probably saw what a mess the "perfectly working cm7" was even though mazen said hes not a real developer. when the 3.4 kernel came up it turned out to be not properly ported. no offense to both of those guys since cm7 actually was usable and the kernel had its right to exist (educk, if you read this, no need to defend yourself, i've read the whole thread).
but you must understand that im kind of suspicious with new things since i don't know if you know what youre doing. im not judging, i really don't know because i'm not qualified. also i dont see anything else going on on your github but your 4.2 porting. so i cant see any references. i also dont see any commits from camcory. thats another thing i cant get an opinion about.
but arco and ivendor have proven to be pretty skilled. i remember someone saying we would never have a 3.x kernel because someone who wanted to port it would be insane...
im still thankful for what youre doing since if ivendor quits its all on you
and im sorry you got in the "just forking" cathegory and everybody else who doesn't feel he belongs there. im just generalizing...
just actually saw your sig. still doesn't change much
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Alright, even through, I shouldn't have any comments here as you already screw things up really bad, I feel like I must do it to clear things up a bit around here.
First of all, you said yourself that you don't have any knowledge related to software development, so why are you messing with people that actually devote time to do it? If you have no ideea what development is, why are you talking about it in this manner? I mean, it is ok to ask or to make mistakes, everybody does, nobody is perfect but I consider this post offensive and I must defend myself here.
Second, as far as I'm consern, my GitHub is MINE and I and only I will decide when to push something there. I cannot be forced by anyone to do anything. So, your sentece "I didn's see anything going on on your github" so what?!? Tell me, why should I post anything just for you to see it? Ah, you think I lack activity? Again, so what? I or any other Open Source developer cannot be forced by anyone to publish something. We do this because we like it, we are not paid for it. Maybe if you would pay me to do these things, yeah you could have the right to judge my activity. This is open source, this is Android, the developers are bringing stuff to the end user but the end user is free to choose if he wants to use that piece of software or if he doesn't want to use that software. Same applies to you, you don't have to flash anything on your phone just because it's there online, if you don't like it, don't use it .
About my 3.4 kernel. I mentioned in the OP of the thread that it is an early "alpha" nothing more. I even used the word "preview". If the end user doesn't like the way the kernel is, than he wont use it.
Oh, and I'm not supposed to say this but I'll take this opportunity just for you to see that I'm not lacking activity and actually I want to develop that 3.4 kernel, also I'll explain why I didn't update anything on github.
I worked locally, and everytime I fixed something, 2 other errors came up, after I fixed those 2, another 3 came up and so on. That's why I choosed not to push anything to git until I get something concret. I said this a million times actually: I have no ideea when that kernel will be ready and if it will be ready, I am going to decide if it will be published to git and XDA or not. This is my personal decision, you can't influence me in any way to do anything.
Also, I'm not a full time developer, I'm still a beginer, I'm still learning things here and I choosed to share my work with others, here on XDA because I thought that my work could be usefull. If you or anyone else don't find it usefull, as I said, don't use it .
Also, ivendor won't quit either and there is nothing on me...again, you are trying to push me...this is hilarious...I choosed to start the 3.4 kernel project but that doesn't mean that I must finish it... I really hope you understood something from this post, if not please, just let it go and ignore it. Also, there is no need to apologise, you were wrong by trying to put pressure on me but I ignored it, as you probaly noticed.
Cheers,
Erik
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Insulting to our developers an absolutly not development related..
Cheers
Thread Closed:
This topic has turned to a flame war and no longer serves a purpose.
Appreciate the work the devs do, as they aren't required to do anything...
~ The-Captain
I have attempted to port the galaxy nexus miui v5 build to the mesmerize/fascinate. Since I am really new to this and don't have any faith in myself, I'm looking for a person to test the port I made. PM me if you are interested.
If no one is interested, I would at least appreciate if someone who knew a little about porting could take a look at my build.
PM me if you are willing to check my zip file for any errors.
This is all in hope of bringing an unofficial port of MIUI v5 to the fascinate/mesmerize community. Since I'm new to porting, this process might take longer than it would for a experienced developer. I also hope to get help from the other willing developers.
Mez
I know I replied but go ahead and post it but state its a dev only test.
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I totally agree with Unjustified Dev, why not make it public in the Dev thread? My ROM is a perpetual work-in-progress and people still download it The folks here nowadays are all pretty willing to throw things on their phone and give feedback, and most really know what they are doing and what their expectations are.
Have faith in yourself! As long as it boots, somebody will definitely use it. Clearly state something like [WIP] in the title and give them a written warning near the download link about making sure they are all backed up to cover yourself
Now is a good time and this is a good place to "cut your teeth", I think. These phones are pretty old and most of the casual flashers have moved on, leaving us with a smaller yet more experienced community! If you use the AOKP or CyanogenMod MTD ROMs as a reference point, you'll probably be in pretty good shape much faster than you may expect.
Good luck, and weclome!
I agree to I would be happy to flash this if I had a computer to Odin with but just post it up like I did with AOCP after enough feedback I got AOCP working even though the Dev came in and requested it gone bunch of asses anyway haha just post it you'll get more feedback I can't wait to see what you get figured out maybe well get miui after all
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hi, i really want to your phone Miuiv5 mesmerize:good: