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Evo 4g Touchstone wireless induction charging mod.

I recently got a HP Touchpad bundle and while the Touchpad is pretty darned decent and definitely worth a hundred bucks, what really impressed me was the touchstone charging dock. Its brilliant.
I looked into it and found the the palm pre also had this and some chap on the net had figured out how to shoehorn the unit into an evo.
I did the mod to mine and its amazing. No more charging cables. Yay!
This is my take on it - tutorial with pictures: http://asmd.wordpress.com/2011/09/26/evo-4g-wireless-induction-charging-modification/
This should come standard in all wireless devices!

Nice mod! Looks better and I'm sure doesn't fail as bad as the powermat charger.
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Nice mod. Thanks for sharing.
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Hi, this is a great mod!
Noob question: I noticed the charging light but the charging icon does not change on your screen. Just curious if once that the battery is completely charged, the icon will turn green. If so I wonder if the charging unit from the Pixi will stop charging the battery once it's full.
Also, compared to charging it directly from the AC Adapter, how long does it take to get a full charge? Is it the same aprox?
I'm planning on taking a look at my Inspire and see if the back cover allows me to put the charging unit there.
Thanks in advance

I did this about a week after launch. Very cool...but over time the novelty wore off.
I got sick of the bulge and ripped it out.

Nice! I wonder if I do the same with the Powermat case...
I have the Powermat, but the only caveat is that it requires a bridge connector between the case and micro-usb port.

haroldgv said:
Hi, this is a great mod!
Noob question: I noticed the charging light but the charging icon does not change on your screen. Just curious if once that the battery is completely charged, the icon will turn green. If so I wonder if the charging unit from the Pixi will stop charging the battery once it's full.
Also, compared to charging it directly from the AC Adapter, how long does it take to get a full charge? Is it the same aprox?
I'm planning on taking a look at my Inspire and see if the back cover allows me to put the charging unit there.
Thanks in advance
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Im running MikG v2.5 Rom and the charging icon flashes between the lighting bolt charging icon and % so you can see at what % the battery is at while charging. When i took the picture, it was showing %, but rest assured it flashes between the two just as if it was plugged in the usb cable.
The Induction charging puck is dumb, it only supplies power much like a usb cable. The charging circuit in the Evo decides when the battery is fully charged and stops charging. The Evo for all intensive purposes acts and behaves exactly as if the usb cable was plugged in. It cant tell if power is coming from the puck or the usb cable. I wouldnt plug in the cable while its on the puck though. Although the voltage will remain the same, about 5 volts, the amperage will increase, a doubling in amperage shouldnt break anything but i havent found out the hard way.
The puck takes the same amount of time to charge as the usb cable. I havent seen any significant difference between the two.
There really isnt much of a bulge of the back case with using 30 awg wire. Just seat it flat and make sure nothing from the cover crimps on it, and its pretty much neat and tidy.
Ive seen this mod done with flat ribbon cable which would work just as well, although in not sure how it was routed through the phone.
regards,
asmd.

uniquenameevo said:
I did this about a week after launch. Very cool...but over time the novelty wore off.
I got sick of the bulge and ripped it out.
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30 awg wire or flat ribbon cable solves the bulge problem. Ive got pucks everywhere, several at home, several at work... and its great not to have to plug it in.
It serves as my phone holder and charging unit. i've set the phone screen not to go to sleep while charging, so it makes for a nice display as well. With the screen left on, it does take longer to charge though.
regards,
asmd.

Yeah,
I did this a Loooooong Time ago using the Palm Pixi touchstone cover.
http://doesitpew.blogspot.com/2011/03/htc-evo-4g-mods-beyond-stock-and-one-of.html
Here is what it looks like with a custom clear back cover.
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The Pixi cover is substantially thinner than the Pre cover and can be fit easily without bulge.
It actually held my phone up hovering in the car while driving.

jdgiotta said:
Nice! I wonder if I do the same with the Powermat case...
I have the Powermat, but the only caveat is that it requires a bridge connector between the case and micro-usb port.
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Its been done. Apparently its quite easy to replace the powermat induction unit with the pixi unit. and the cover fits perfectly.
I opted not to get the powermat case as i wasnt keen on the bridge with the usb dongle sticking out the bottom.
Ive havent heard many good things about it, pretty much nothing but complaints about the powermat induction charging unit which is why i decided on this mod and i can tell you it works, it simply works, perfectly every time.
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regards,
asmd.

What about adding a diode to prevent damage from accidentally plugging in USB while charging on the puck? I really like this mod great stuff...

Childofthehorn said:
Yeah,
I did this a Loooooong Time ago using the Palm Pixi touchstone cover.
http://doesitpew.blogspot.com/2011/03/htc-evo-4g-mods-beyond-stock-and-one-of.html
Here is what it looks like with a custom clear back cover.
The Pixi cover is substantially thinner than the Pre cover and can be fit easily without bulge.
It actually held my phone up hovering in the car while driving.
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Nice work!!
I would love to know hwere you wired the pixi induction charger to?
Im really curious about what you said "Inductive charging back was wired into the test points for the USB power as opposed to attaching directly to the resistors as it is safer and easier to remove if there is an issue with the phone otherwise and needs servicing."

Well, this post finally got me moving on modding my Nexus S to charge via induction. I just got my HP Touchpad with the touchstone charging dock and it is very very cool. Can't wait to get my Nexus S that way too. And the Palm Pre/Pixi covers are pretty cheap. The Touchstone dock is only $8 too. I can have multiple units for work, home, relatives and will probably mod it to be in my Car phone holder. The possibilities are endless. Wish me luck.

Ok this power thingy(name doesnt come to mind) uses a cord to power it right so doesnt it defeat the purpose of being wirless if you know were im coming from. But hey I maybe wrong its probably battery powered? So dont sun me.

Awesome mod and comes in handy for me since my USB chord is lost most of the time lol

I have mine fitted with this case. It's a TPU plus hard plastic back. I have great phone protection and touchstone charging.... It's no more bulkier than any case out there.

asmd6230 said:
Nice work!!
I would love to know hwere you wired the pixi induction charger to?
Im really curious about what you said "Inductive charging back was wired into the test points for the USB power as opposed to attaching directly to the resistors as it is safer and easier to remove if there is an issue with the phone otherwise and needs servicing."
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Actually...
This is easy to do since the screw hole surrounding areas are grounded = ground since its pretty universal in this phone, like most mobile devices.
There are a few test points next to the Micro USB port that you can directly test by simply plugging in a USB cable and "buzzing" for the connection of the 5v line.
I get your concern, but there really need not be one and these are the best spots to attach because they are the easiest and safest to remove later. Also, there is a regulator onboard with a shutoff/on ciruit within the inductive charging circuit. It will not turn on or allow voltage to pass under 4.5V (shuts off) from the outputs. Connecting the inductive charger to the 5V input line of the USB directly means that it treats it like USB charging. The onboard current and voltage regulators and charging circuitry of the Evo make it pretty darn hard to ruin it. At any rate, the inductive charger won't ever get up to 1Amp anyway because of power loss due to physics. It is pretty much 500ma in most circumstances from the Pixi receiving end.
The test points are far enough for skilled hands to hit with s solder braid or suck up after a rework airing anyway.
For those who skipped the technical mumbo jumbo, they basically made it impossible for you to screw up (unless you decided to connect your inductive charger at 5V to your Li-Ion battery at 3.7V - DO NO DO THAT!). The picture shows the wire going at the edges of the battery because that is the best place with room, they both route to the same hole at the back of the battery. Use 28AWG or 30AWG teflon-coated stranded wire for slimmest results. Great quality wire will mean that you don't have power loss (the traces are thinner than the wire is anyway so its not an issue).
If you have some detailed questions, post them up or send me a message. I will try to be prompt!

I remember last year when this mod first showed up, the addition of the Palm induction coil screwed up the evo's internal compass which then caused problems with navigation. Is this still an issue?

DroidFreek said:
Ok this power thingy(name doesnt come to mind) uses a cord to power it right so doesnt it defeat the purpose of being wirless if you know were im coming from. But hey I maybe wrong its probably battery powered? So dont sun me.
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Ha. You are totally right, simply switching one wire for another. Then, if you need to usb mount or sync or whatever, you still need a regular micro usb cable to do so...
1 cable for plug/charge/sync
or
1 Charging stone for power
1 Regular cable for das syncing/usb mount/charge.
Hmmmm

jjvw said:
I remember last year when this mod first showed up, the addition of the Palm induction coil screwed up the evo's internal compass which then caused problems with navigation. Is this still an issue?
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the induction coil and the metal discs in the phone are not magnetic. When off the charging puck, everything works like it should. Truth be said ive never used the compass app. (im not sure if i even have one), i exclusively use gps which works just fine.

[Q] Really Desperate in Fixing my Nexus 7

Okay so, this story is going to be really long and somewhat complicated. I'm hoping that someone kind enough will really read the whole story and shed light in the situation.
It all started when I was holding my MicroUSB cable and it hit a (moving) fan. I immediately got it out though it had some scratches. I went to check if it's still working, and it is. Later on, about a few weeks after, I noticed that my Nexus 7 is no longer charging. I tried adjusting it & positioning the cable and the tablet so it will charge, and fortunately it worked. A few more charges and it stopped working. I tried all of the outlets and extension cords in our house, yet it still doesn't work. My Nexus was running low on battery so I had to switch it off. Then I tried charging it with the USB ports on my PC. It worked for a week.
It stopped working, and I was really desperate in trying to make it work cause my tablet is running out of juice and I don't want it to be dead. I immediately bought a Samsung charger in a local store. It's output power is 4.75V and 0.4A. I tried charging with it and gosh, it worked. I settled using this low-output charger because I really could not find a new microUSB cable in here or a microUSB charger. It takes centuries to charge my Nexus completely, but I had to bear with it cause it's the only one I can use. I used it for a month or so.
Until then, I was pretty much contented with it. However, I noticed that it's not charging again. Like, it's been 2 hours and the battery hasn't moved up at least a percent up. I was scared because the battery only has 10% left, and I don't know what to do. I immediately shut it down and tried to think of something. I thought of buying a microUSB cable from eBay since I had extra money on PayPal (it cost me about $4) with free shipping. Of course, it came a month and two weeks after I bought it, what do you expect from free shipping?
I immediately plugged the microUSB into my charging port, and I panicked because it didn't work. The charging indicator didn't appear like usual, so I was really crazy, wanting to do something about it. I tried opening it and I think this is where the trouble came. I used a bread knife in opening the rear of the tablet. I tried pushing some stuff near the battery in, to check if they're compact and working. I put the cover back to the tablet and tried charging again. Nope, nothing yet.
I was up until 2AM and then I saw my tablet booting up. I became really happy then. I quickly did what the websites are telling me to, press power and then volume down, bootloader and then power off. I slept and let it charge overnight. I woke up around 12PM. The first thing that I did was to check my tablet. It was charged but not full. I was pretty happy, because you know, the feels. lol.
But anyways, that microusb cable only worked for a day. I was mad when I used my tablet and then when I went to charge it, the battery wasn't moving up again. I was worried, desperate and deeply sad inside at the same time, for my tablet has a real sentimental value to me. It's always like that, I mean, I've bought like $50 worth of microusb chargers, they all work in the start, but a day or so they stop working.
Finally, I've decided to make the decision of bringing it to a mobile technician. ASUS service centers here in the Philippines are crap, they don't work on tablets. I'm gonna cut it short, he replaced my battery (with an improvised battery composed of 3x phone-size batteries), but the thingy with colored wires that you plug into the motherboard is still the same. He also replaced my charging port. He reinstalled the OS and all that good stuff, but my files were saved. Thank God.
I went home and tried some of my latest chargers. A microusb cable with the original adapter worked for a while, but it never completed charging fully. A microUSB charger from DealExtreme with an individual adapter (5V, 2A) also worked, and it's the one that I'm using right now, but it's kinda weird that it never went up 38%. And take note that it took me 6 hours to climb up from 22% to 38%. The reason why I posted all of this is that it's not charging again, and I feel like I've wasted money on replacing parts that didn't really work at all. Or maybe they malfunctioned again because of my chargers? I'm really going crazy right now, I actually have no idea what's going on in my tablet.
Also, the battery is supposed to have 4325mAh capacity right? Why is mine only 3260mAh? I've noticed this before my batteries were replaced (when I was struggling on trying to make the microusb cable work). Since the battery and charging port has been replaced, what else do I need to do? I mean, I'm really freaking desperate right now. I don't know how it will ever be able to charge properly again. Maybe with a charging dock? Man, that costs $60+, excluding shipping. And I'm not even sure if it will work.
I want to buy the Nexus 7 2013 but I really don't have any money right now to spend on buying one, and besides I'd like to have my Nexus 7 2012 fixed first. So please help me out guys, tell me how I can fix this thing.
My ideas right now :
1. Buy an original microUSB cable from Asus (if possible), or probably including the adapter.
2. Buy a charging dock. But it's so expensive.
3. Check if there's some more broken stuff in the battery. This one was taken from the old battery, so it might be the one causing the malfunction.
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Please help me, I'm begging you all. :crying:

Being you're in the Philippines I can't attest to cost, but I recently purchased a pogo dock for 18$ with shipping on eBay through newegg. It may be worth a look
But I would highly consider an oem battery, did the tech allow you to keep your old one? I don't think it had any issues just you needed to resolder in the micro USB port, which you did
And finally, I bought the 2013 nexus7 for myself and gave the 2012 one and dock to my mother, figured a great first tablet for her and an excuse to get me a new one, in truth the upgrade is not drastic, the 2013 is nice but it is not that much better so you aren't missing out.
So my advice, skip 2013, try to get oem battery and pogo dock
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Throughout all this did you ever try backing your files up to a PC and then factory resetting?
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Thanks for your replies!
demkantor said:
Being you're in the Philippines I can't attest to cost, but I recently purchased a pogo dock for 18$ with shipping on eBay through newegg. It may be worth a look
But I would highly consider an oem battery, did the tech allow you to keep your old one? I don't think it had any issues just you needed to resolder in the micro USB port, which you did
And finally, I bought the 2013 nexus7 for myself and gave the 2012 one and dock to my mother, figured a great first tablet for her and an excuse to get me a new one, in truth the upgrade is not drastic, the 2013 is nice but it is not that much better so you aren't missing out.
So my advice, skip 2013, try to get oem battery and pogo dock
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Hmm.. things seemed to be fine until now, that it wouldn't charge again. I am using the microUSB cable from the charger which I had bought on DealExtreme. I installed Battery Monitor Widget to check things out, and the maximum charging it had was only around ~400mA which is pretty bad for a 2A adapter (the OEM). I'll try checking the pogo dock although I don't really have any money right now.
The technician gave me the old battery, and had that thingy which you plug into the mobo removed. How exactly do you resolder this microUSB port? It seems to me that nobody knows how to do that here, lol.
Hmm..what about the sharpness of the screen in 2nd gen? I know I'm crazy for asking for more but I wanted it because I want a tablet that can outdo the iPad mini in every aspect. What about the new processing power and all that good stuff? You mean it didn't really bring any great difference? What about KitKat, is it good? I'm using SmoothRom v5.3 and it's still on 4.2, so yeah I haven't used 4.3 nor 4.4. yet.
DQEight said:
Throughout all this did you ever try backing your files up to a PC and then factory resetting?
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I don't know how to backup my files on PC, I did it on TiBu though. Yes, I think I've done that twice or thrice already (updating my custom rom).

Let me put it this way, the only improvement i care about has been the speakers. Sure it has a better screen and more processing power and a 5$ camera slapped on the back, but the 2012 is an awesome, capable device and depending how you use your tab you wont see too many differences, at least for me.
Oh and inductive charging is awesome because you can keep a case on it
Anyone familiar with fine soldering can do it, if they have to ask dont let them touch it
As for kitkat, its fine, but will be the same on 2012, remember the 2013 will probably only get one major android version then the 2012 but being a nexus youll always get the same amount of custom roms for years
So if you want the absolute best, 2013 hands down. If you want something hardly noticeably weaker stick with the 2012 for $100 less
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demkantor said:
Let me put it this way, the only improvement i care about has been the speakers. Sure it has a better screen and more processing power and a 5$ camera slapped on the back, but the 2012 is an awesome, capable device and depending how you use your tab you wont see too many differences, at least for me.
Oh and inductive charging is awesome because you can keep a case on it
Anyone familiar with fine soldering can do it, if they have to ask dont let them touch it
As for kitkat, its fine, but will be the same on 2012, remember the 2013 will probably only get one major android version then the 2012 but being a nexus youll always get the same amount of custom roms for years
So if you want the absolute best, 2013 hands down. If you want something hardly noticeably weaker stick with the 2012 for $100 less
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Alright, thank you for replying.
I'm sticking to the decision of buying a pogo dock. You know why? Well, it was all working again, but this time we went on a vacation. I plugged the charger on an old extension cord in my aunt's house. I let it stay there for a couple of minutes, then I checked back later, noticing that it has gone DOWN by 2% (well, it was only 14% back then so every single percent matters) and I immediately plugged it out and tried other outlets/extension cords.
Nope, it wouldn't charge anymore. Nothing works now, repositioning, replugging, all of those -- nope, not working. I just lost faith & hope in it :crying: so I just put it in my bag WITH THE MICROUSB CABLE STILL ATTACHED (okay, I'm crazy T_T) and it was there for 2 days, then our trip to home, then we're finally home. Goddammit, I realized that the microusb cable was still attached to the charging port and now it's all bent. I tried bending it to position, I mean to correct it but the plug itself got detached, so basically I wouldn't be able to charge using microusb again.
Do you think that buying a pogo dock can solve all of this? Well, considering that the battery was replaced with 3x 1600mAh batteries, will it charge the same way like before (~2000mA)? If not, at least probably faster because it's charging via pogo pins now?

Internal wireless charging.

Hey guys,
I'm mostly a lurker of XDA. I was interested in soldering an internal inductive receiver in my one and was having a difficult time finding any information on it. I had been using a USB adapter that worked ok, but I found it annoying that I could not use my usb port without taking my case off and unplugging the adapter. I took matters into my own hands a soldered in a receiver. I was mostly successful. The usb port works great and the receiver functions, but it's right behind the NFC in the back case and it has problems staying connected to the charger with the back cover on. Once replacement backs are available I plan on modding it further so that I can rely on it daily for wireless charging.
My original thread at the one plus one forums:
https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/soldering-in-an-inductive-charging-coil-internally.57772/
and my gallery of my mod:
http://imgur.com/a/jRnN4
I'll keep you guys updated on any progress I make.
Thanks for looking!

inaudible101 said:
Hey guys,
I'm mostly a lurker of XDA. I was interested in soldering an internal inductive receiver in my one and was having a difficult time finding any information on it. I had been using a USB adapter that worked ok, but I found it annoying that I could not use my usb port without taking my case off and unplugging the adapter. I took matters into my own hands a soldered in a receiver. I was mostly successful. The usb port works great and the receiver functions, but it's right behind the NFC in the back case and it has problems staying connected to the charger with the back cover on. Once replacement backs are available I plan on modding it further so that I can rely on it daily for wireless charging.
My original thread at the one plus one forums:
https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/soldering-in-an-inductive-charging-coil-internally.57772/
and my gallery of my mod:
http://imgur.com/a/jRnN4
I'll keep you guys updated on any progress I make.
Thanks for looking!
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This is awesome, mate. Really neat. :good:

Nice! If it wouldn't void my warranty I would so do this mod. Great job.
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Thanks for posting this. I read it with great interest.
I think this is what I will do when my OPO arrives in a few days' time. I ordered the bits off of eBay yesterday, so one they arrive I will follow your guide.
I guess at 500ma, it should take about 6 hours to properly charge the phone. I just want it for topping up at work, so heavy charging isn't what I need.
Thanks again.
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Hi guys,
I'm posting on xda what I wrote on OPO forums:
inaudible101 said:
On the wireless receiver coils there is only a positive and a negative wire. If you look at the ebay link for the adapter I used you will see the two wires on the close up shot of the USB adapter.
On the port on the phone there are five pins, a VCC (5 volt +), two data pins, a ground or dead pin, and a -5 volt. If you look at the first picture in the gallery I believe the two pins on the right at both +5 Volt and the two on the far left are both -5 volt. I tried to solder on the 2 and 6th pin though just to be on the safe side but according to my multimeter pins 1 and 2 are shorted and pins 6 and 7 are shorted so you should be able to use either or both without any problems. One the wireless adapter I was able to peal the coil cover back a bit and the PCB showed which wire was + and -.
I cut off the usb adapter on the bottom of the wireless receiver I was using so I just used the wire that was already attached and used my multimeter to identify which one was + and - since it was printed on the PCB of the receiver. After cutting the end off I was unable to strip the wire because it's a weird flat wire. I ended up just melting back the shielding with the soldering iron.
The inductive receivers I have on the way don't have a wire attached but have little copper pin things that I can take off with a soldering iron and attach my own wires. They are also labeled + and - so it should be easy.
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Hi inaudible101,
I saw your post on xda and I went curious about it. I was actually thinking of doing the same thing, so I'm glad that someone managed to get it working!
I have some ideas to make it better: you can cut the cable that you soldered in the middle to create some sort of connector pins (like in the galaxy s4), and then removing the black pouch in which the receiver coil is, in order to glue it to the back cover itself. Also, when gluing it, you will have to position it a little bit more towards the USB port so that it doesn't block the NFC.
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I'm going to try this as soon as I receive my wireless charging receiver. What do you think? Could it work better, since the coil will be closer to the back of the case, and a little bit away from the NFC antenna?
Dan.
PS : sorry if I was unclear, English is not my native language. Please ask if you didn't understand something!

Hi Dan.
Some great ideas there, and well worth considering.
I love the idea the pins, as you mentioned. This would allow you to mount the coil to the case, as you suggested.
I like the idea of moving it lower too, away from the NFC antenna. That is a good thought for those whose banks etc actually use it. Or to use your own NFC tags.
Great thinking.
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Has anyone tried using a multimeter on the exposed pins?

Hilbe said:
Has anyone tried using a multimeter on the exposed pins?
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Yeah there's nothing there.

@inaudible101, what tools did you use to free the backing from the phone without damaging it?
Where are the pinch points?

AJ RIMMER! said:
@inaudible101, what tools did you use to free the backing from the phone without damaging it?
Where are the pinch points?
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To free the backing, you first have to remove the micro sim slot, after that use your finger nails to remove the back (just go around the phone and pull off gently).

Great! Thank you for that. It would have taken me a while to work that out
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Jesus, so many people on the oneplus forum do not understand what is going on

In what way?

They don't understand the initial post and keep linking to other threads about USB adapters. I updated the thread over there with pictures of the cut I made in the back to run the coil outside the phone so that it works a little better while keeping the USB port open.

OK, I read that post.
They are the kind of people who will try it, and blame either you or OnePlus for them screwing their phones up.
Clueless people like that should only be given Nokia 1610's, and made to sit in a corner.

OnePlus How To: Change StyleSwap Cover
dansou901 said:
AJ RIMMER! said:
@inaudible101, what tools did you use to free the backing from the phone without damaging it?
Where are the pinch points?
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To free the backing, you first have to remove the micro sim slot, after that use your finger nails to remove the back (just go around the phone and pull off gently).
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OnePlus have made the following how-to video.
OnePlus How To: Change StyleSwap Cover
As more people get their hands on the OnePlus One, we would like to take the time to show you guys how to change the StyleSwap Cover. In this video, you can see the newly announced Bamboo StyleSwap Cover.
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Zmartphone said:
OnePlus have made the following how-to video.
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Great work on this. I'm interested in doing the wireless charging thing myself.

Bakuryu91 said:
Hi guys,
I'm posting on xda what I wrote on OPO forums:
Hi inaudible101,
I saw your post on xda and I went curious about it. I was actually thinking of doing the same thing, so I'm glad that someone managed to get it working!
I have some ideas to make it better: you can cut the cable that you soldered in the middle to create some sort of connector pins (like in the galaxy s4), and then removing the black pouch in which the receiver coil is, in order to glue it to the back cover itself. Also, when gluing it, you will have to position it a little bit more towards the USB port so that it doesn't block the NFC.
You could end up with something like this :
hackintech1.files.wordpress.com/2013/07/s4-charging-11.jpg
I'm going to try this as soon as I receive my wireless charging receiver. What do you think? Could it work better, since the coil will be closer to the back of the case, and a little bit away from the NFC antenna?
Dan.
PS : sorry if I was unclear, English is not my native language. Please ask if you didn't understand something!
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Here's the full blog post with instructions to the picture you posted: hackintech1.wordpress.com/tag/palm-pixi/ I would have posted it as a clickable hyperlink, but I'm not allowed to as I haven't made 10 posts yet
And the accompanying video instructions:

vwauditech said:
Nice! If it wouldn't void my warranty I would so do this mod. Great job.
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You can unsolder the wireless charging cable at any time, as the parts which inaudible modded, did not have any warranty tamper-proof stickers. If the phone is bricked, open it up, unsolder your wireless coil, pop the cover back on, and RMA like normal.

Desolutional said:
You can unsolder the wireless charging cable at any time, as the parts which inaudible modded, did not have any warranty tamper-proof stickers. If the phone is bricked, open it up, unsolder your wireless coil, pop the cover back on, and RMA like normal.
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I would just be afraid of them taking notice of the solder points. I guess if I did have to remove it I could make all the solder points look uniform by re-flowing each socket.
The lack of Qi is the thing I'm missing the most at this point.
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Wireless charging on the Note 4

I've been trying to look for qi wireless charging back cover for the Note 4 but haven't really seen anything for sale yet. Anyone here interested in wireless charging for the Note 4 as well? I mean I love the fact that it charges so FAST with the fast charger but whenever I'm not needing to charge in a rush I want the option to charge it wirelessly.

Yes I'm very interested in wireless charging as well. I don't believe there's anything out for the note 4 at the moment. But I'm positive that there will be some really soon . for now I'm good with just fast charging
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shpotik said:
Yes I'm very interested in wireless charging as well. I don't believe there's anything out for the note 4 at the moment. But I'm positive that there will be some really soon . for now I'm good with just fast charging
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QI charging receivers which fit under stock back cover have just started to hit Ebay.
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Wireless charging s view cover
I ordered a S View cover from Verizon. There are two different S View covers though. One is normal and one is for wireless charging.

deathshead said:
QI charging receivers which fit under stock back cover have just started to hit Ebay.
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I'm interested in buying one of those since I don't even want to have something like an S-cover (or any other case for that matter) on my Note 4. I'm only held back because I'm thinking of getting an original Samsung qi enabled wireless back (just the back) cover to avoid any damage to my N4. Do you have any experience using such receivers? Problems like overcharging? Does it affect the NFC?

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I'm interested in buying one of those since I don't even want to have something like an S-cover (or any other case for that matter) on my Note 4. I'm only held back because I'm thinking of getting an original Samsung qi enabled wireless back (just the back) cover to avoid any damage to my N4. Do you have any experience using such receivers? Problems like overcharging? Does it affect the NFC?
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I used one of these on my N3. Having a small bump on the back where the qi receiver was.... Very annoying for me personally. Will wait to get the factory back from Samsung this go around

xtrandrix said:
I used one of these on my N3. Having a small bump on the back where the qi receiver was.... Very annoying for me personally. Will wait to get the factory back from Samsung this go around
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I can't wait till they actually release those! Thanks for the info.. Almost pulled the trigger for one of those cheap receivers to test it out.

Verizon has the wireless charging back in white for sale on their website. The black is out of stock at the moment. Question is it any thicker than the normal back? In the past the thicker qi back would prevent cases from fitting properly.

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Verizon has the wireless charging back in white for sale on their website. The black is out of stock at the moment. Question is it any thicker than the normal back? In the past the thicker qi back would prevent cases from fitting properly.
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It looks like both are sold out now. Unfortunately you can't even place an order to get in line for when they get back in stock, which seems broken. I'm debating whether or not I should go with wireless charging again. I had it on my G3 and it was handy but with the fast charge on the Note 4, I may deal with the minor inconvenience of attaching a cable to get the super quick charge times, top it off and then unplug.

We should be seeing resonant wireless power systems coming within a year or so. Your phone will be charging when within range to the transmitter, similar to getting wifi when your in range of your router.
Ranges won't be as good as wifi of course, one or 2 rooms maybe.
For those interested google Strongly Coupled Magnetic Resonance. Or SCMR.

FuzzRaven said:
I've been trying to look for qi wireless charging back cover for the Note 4 but haven't really seen anything for sale yet. Anyone here interested in wireless charging for the Note 4 as well? I mean I love the fact that it charges so FAST with the fast charger but whenever I'm not needing to charge in a rush I want the option to charge it wirelessly.
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Hi. Yes I love wireless charging and have been using it for years.
I used it on a Samsung Galaxy Note 2, Note 3, and now I am waiting for my Note 4 to arruve and I will be using it on that too. However, the charging back cover is expensive, and it will make your phone thicker so gel cases etc may not fit.
If you do want one though you can find it at a few places, for example..
www.mobilefun.co.uk
What I use charging pad which is a thin squarish pad which fits over the battery. It has contact points to connect with the phone. When placed on any Chi charger it will charge the battery. I prefer this method but if you carry a spare battery and you like to swap them then this may not be for you.
NOW HAVING SAID ALL OF THAT I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU ALL TOO. I AM LOOKING FOR A CHARGING PAD FOR MY NOTE 4 SM-910F (DO NOT HAVE IT YET) BUT ALL I CAN FIND IS ONE FOR THE SAMSUNG GALAXY NOTE 4 N9100. WILL THIS WORK ON MY PHONE? THE N9100 IS A DUAL SIM SO THE CONTACT POINTS MAY BE IN A DIFFERENT PLACE. ANYONE KNOW?
THANKS.

If you get the sticker you can still use any case. I you get the Samsung wireless back it is slightly larger then the original back therefore limiting what cases you can use.
On my S5 both worked fine and I have both ordered for my note 4. I have not received the sticker or back yet.
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ericritou said:
Hi. Yes I love wireless charging and have been using it for years.
I used it on a Samsung Galaxy Note 2, Note 3, and now I am waiting for my Note 4 to arruve and I will be using it on that too. However, the charging back cover is expensive, and it will make your phone thicker so gel cases etc may not fit.
If you do want one though you can find it at a few places, for example..
www.mobilefun.co.uk
What I use charging pad which is a thin squarish pad which fits over the battery. It has contact points to connect with the phone. When placed on any Chi charger it will charge the battery. I prefer this method but if you carry a spare battery and you like to swap them then this may not be for you.
NOW HAVING SAID ALL OF THAT I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU ALL TOO. I AM LOOKING FOR A CHARGING PAD FOR MY NOTE 4 SM-910F (DO NOT HAVE IT YET) BUT ALL I CAN FIND IS ONE FOR THE SAMSUNG GALAXY NOTE 4 N9100. WILL THIS WORK ON MY PHONE? THE N9100 IS A DUAL SIM SO THE CONTACT POINTS MAY BE IN A DIFFERENT PLACE. ANYONE KNOW?
THANKS.
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The particular sticker I got for my S5 sticks to the back not the battery so I can still swap out batteries. You do have to make sure the contacts are lined up right each time which is no big deal you just need to be conscious of it when putting the back on.

I love wireless charging. I have 4 Itain charging docks. 2 for me and 2 for my wife. I have the s view wireless flip cover for myself. However i bought the wireless receiver for my wife for her to use until the s view wireless flip cover is available in white. I didn't notice any over heating while charging it on the Itain dock. I did notice that the adapter got hot the first use, but its been ok since then. I also noticed that the wireless receiver got warm from battery heat on my wifes phone., and started to slightly separate. I will continue to monitor this . Overall its a been a great experience. I keep the dock by the bedside and in the office. I have a flat charging mat in the living. I'm looking into getting the Itain car dock and mounting it in the armrest. The battery life has been so good I rarely needed to quick charge it. i have it off charge for as long as 1.4 days with moderate use.
FYI. I have not tried NFC on my wife's phone with the receiver I got on Ebay similar to the pictures in this thread.

Amazon has them....
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_s...ss+charging+cover&sprefix=note+4+wire,aps,463

Special MicroUSB cable(custom made) - specifically for charging(ONLY)

Hi there guys,
Although active in the rom part of the 1+1 forum, I rarely spend any time in the general section and I thought why not post something? so a little backstory on the cable.
I want the fastest way to charge my phone and what can I do to improve that?
- Get a better charger
- Get a better MicroUSB cable
Our stock charger is capable of 5v 2.1A well the actual amperage it can give is less than 2A, I can't draw more than 1.8-1.9A on my phone even with my custom cable
So I got a quickcharge 2.0 charger just to try it and have a spare one, finally it became my main charger as it's rated at 5v 2A but actually can output 2.1A!!! phone is drawing that much, ranging from 2 to 2.1A - with stock cable it's a bit less than 2A but pretty close(around 1.97A to be precise)
So how's this custom cable I've build? it's like this:
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So it's a 18AWG and it's rated for "Maximum amps for chassis wiring: 16A" and "Maximum amps for power transmission: 2.3A" ..so it's capable of sustaining 2.3A without any problem(heat or power loss), if you use a very cheap microusb cable it can take up to 6 hours to charge your phone(as you can imagine the cable can play significant part) - Cable wire is of course copper so you know

Nice work, I've also noticed I get 1.6 to 1.8 amps on stock cable and charget

evronetwork said:
So it's a 18AWG and it's rated for "Maximum amps for chassis wiring: 16A" and "Maximum amps for power transmission: 2.3A" ..so it's capable of sustaining 2.3A without any problem
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Very nice. Maybe a photo tutorial or youtube vid on construction?

naeem76 said:
Nice work, I've also noticed I get 1.6 to 1.8 amps on stock cable and charget
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I'm close on stock(cable+charger)
pbergonzi said:
Very nice. Maybe a photo tutorial or youtube vid on construction?
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I'm too lazy to do that hhahaa(as a computer tech guy I do many stuff and I have record many of my actions but I'm too lazy to edit my videos and post them online), but honestly trying to fit an 18AWG cable in a usb and microusb jack is pain in the a** because the wire is quite thick but it's an one time hassle, I permanently fix the wire(can't be removed even if I wanted to, the only way to fit new microusb and usb jacks is to cut the wire) - Trimming plastic inside the jacks without doing any damage just to fit the cable can be time consuming :crying:
Something that I didn't mention is the size of the cable, its the same size as stock
P.S. At best you'll find 20AWG cables in the market and some cost quite much

evronetwork said:
I'm close on stock(cable+charger)
I'm too lazy to do that hhahaa
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Thanks. Really I was simply wondering to which contacts the wires went, but I'm sure the layout is on the web, and I'm probably not gonna do it anyway.

pbergonzi said:
Thanks. Really I was simply wondering to which contacts the wires went, but I'm sure the layout is on the web, and I'm probably not gonna do it anyway.
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If you were close to me(same town or next one) I could do it for you for a small fee but don't do it if you're not very capable with ur hands and soldering iron
P.S. soldering them wrong can actually damage the phone permanently or even make the batter explode and/or charger(it's basically a short circuit) - you've been warned
My jacks are filled so after I solder the connections they can't be removed ..there are airtight also this cable is suitable if you use public chargers as no data would be "stolen" if one of the public chargers is modified - this uses only two wires and it's for charging

evronetwork said:
If you were close to me(same town or next one) I could do it for you for a small fee but don't do it if you're not very capable with ur hands and soldering iron
P.S. soldering them wrong can actually damage the phone permanently or even make the batter explode and/or charger(it's basically a short circuit) - you've been warned
My jacks are filled so after I solder the connections they can't be removed ..there are airtight also this cable is suitable if you use public chargers as no data would be "stolen" if one of the public chargers is modified - this uses only two wires and it's for charging
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Nice work. Thank you. The data security is a nice feature.

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Nice work. Thank you. The data security is a nice feature.
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On the bad side, if you need to transfer data you can't with this cable ..but I rarely use cable for data(I mostly use wifi connections to transfer data, or bluetooth) - Why? unessesary small-chargings will harm your battery, so if you connect the phone to your computer to transfer data better let it charge up rather than do your job and remove it, less than 1% charge frequent uses it will shorten ur battery life significantly
Even if I wanted to make it a full fledge cable with 18 AWG wire this is impossible, also it will become heavy for a usb cable. I barely fit 18 AWG cable(but it's capable of up to 2.3A(constant use)!! our phones can't draw 2.3A(no phone can ..at least not one I know) so it's great)
I wanted a wire with 2.1A constant use so it would have nearly no power loss(or voltage drop), putting a thicker wire won't make any different but 18AWG compared to stock, there's different. Especially if you compare a cheap 1 euro Chinese microusb cable with this one
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Although I'm really happy with my cable and it's my first pick when in hurry and need the faster charge available, two days ago the Chinese were celebrating something so I've bought cheaply(compared to original price) a Wsken magnetic micro usb cable(original), if you don't know whats that it's a microusb cable with magnetic tip. How does it work? check the picture:
I'll measure charging rates when received but I don't expect to be as good as my cable ..but in the night when in the dark a magnetic connection seems wonderful(also great if someones trip in the cable ..it won't make ur phone fall, it will be disconnected). If you put it backwards, it still works(but only for charging) so you can safely use it on public, just connect the cable in reverse. What's bad about this? well this comes with 2 microusb adaptors and one cable, you need that specific cable so if you have lots of devices you need to carry a cable with you(and it's not cheap) - Hope it has similar thickness as our stock cable so charging won't take long, can't wait 5 hours charging(as with some very cheap microusb Chinese cables)

Very good, thank you.

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Very good, thank you.
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No need, we're a community and we help each other, in the future I may need ur help and/or knowledge

I'm a big numb-nut in terms of electrics, but when you're pushing the capabilities for charging, is there also an increased risk of damage?

experience?
evronetwork said:
On the bad side, if you need to transfer data you can't with this cable ..but I rarely use cable for data(I mostly use wifi connections to transfer data, or bluetooth) - Why? unessesary small-chargings will harm your battery, so if you connect the phone to your computer to transfer data better let it charge up rather than do your job and remove it, less than 1% charge frequent uses it will shorten ur battery life significantly
Even if I wanted to make it a full fledge cable with 18 AWG wire this is impossible, also it will become heavy for a usb cable. I barely fit 18 AWG cable(but it's capable of up to 2.3A(constant use)!! our phones can't draw 2.3A(no phone can ..at least not one I know) so it's great)
I wanted a wire with 2.1A constant use so it would have nearly no power loss(or voltage drop), putting a thicker wire won't make any different but 18AWG compared to stock, there's different. Especially if you compare a cheap 1 euro Chinese microusb cable with this one
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Although I'm really happy with my cable and it's my first pick when in hurry and need the faster charge available, two days ago the Chinese were celebrating something so I've bought cheaply(compared to original price) a Wsken magnetic micro usb cable(original), if you don't know whats that it's a microusb cable with magnetic tip. How does it work? check the picture:
I'll measure charging rates when received but I don't expect to be as good as my cable ..but in the night when in the dark a magnetic connection seems wonderful(also great if someones trip in the cable ..it won't make ur phone fall, it will be disconnected). If you put it backwards, it still works(but only for charging) so you can safely use it on public, just connect the cable in reverse. What's bad about this? well this comes with 2 microusb adaptors and one cable, you need that specific cable so if you have lots of devices you need to carry a cable with you(and it's not cheap) - Hope it has similar thickness as our stock cable so charging won't take long, can't wait 5 hours charging(as with some very cheap microusb Chinese cables)
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Did you recieve this cable? I'd like to know your experiences. I know for a fact that the Znap cables are experiencing a lot of delay but there are a lot of Ebay clones on the market now.
Was going to buy this one but I have no clue if it works though.........

How do you measure the current drawn by the phone while charging?

BarnOwl said:
Did you recieve this cable? I'd like to know your experiences. I know for a fact that the Znap cables are experiencing a lot of delay but there are a lot of Ebay clones on the market now.
Was going to buy this one but I have no clue if it works though.........
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Yes I receive the cable(if ur talking about the magnetic one) and charges up to 2.1A ..max amps for our phone
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How do you measure the current drawn by the phone while charging?
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Too many apps in the internet but I prefer the "Charger Timer", measures from 20% until 80% ..where the phone gets the "fastest" charging because when battery is low or way to high it draws less power(so battery will last longer)

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How do you measure the current drawn by the phone while charging?
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Thank you. I will give it a try for sure.
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gyanbhartip said:
How do you measure the current drawn by the phone while charging?
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I've been using Amphere for a while. It works quite well.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gombosdev.ampere&hl=en

evronetwork said:
Yes I receive the cable(if ur talking about the magnetic one) and charges up to 2.1A ..max amps for our phone
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Thanks, that's what I wanted to know.....ordering one now.

Is this the magnetic one:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B00VVJE6QS/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1453820974&sr=8-1&pi=SY200_QL40&keywords=Wsken&dpPl=1&dpID=31gh8cR4W7L&ref=plSrch
I've been after a new charger since my original one plus charger broke, been using a nexus 5 one instead.

Been using it for a while now, I got this one
I like it a lot! It even transfers data from and to my PC! I just have to make sure the led faces the bottom to transfer.
I do not know if it works on ALL oneplus ones as there seems to be a lot of difference in these devices, so don't take my word on it!
It also charges fast, just as fast as the original cable. I just ordered another one to use in my car.