I may be wrong but I think this officially means Vibrant is the only Galaxy S on a major carrier without Gingerbread. Thank you T-Mobile or Samsung, whichever one of you is responsible for leaving us behind.
Captivate updated to Gingerbread via Kies Mini, not At&t OTA. Leading me to think Samsung is responsible for not updating Vibrant not T-Mobile, but who knows.
I guess people can still use custom Gingerbread/Ice Cream Sandwhich roms, but then we know you put your life at risk with no 911 and half ass GPS.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/01/10/atts-samsung-captivate-finally-gets-updated-to-gingerbread/
Come on Samsung give us a Kies Mini Gingerbread update!
Samsung already announced this -> http://androidandme.com/2012/01/dev...updated-to-android-4-value-pack-or-otherwise/
Manufacturers are generally responsible for Android updates to their devices, then through the carrier to the end customer. Here is an excellent article about it->
http://www.wired.com/epicenter/2011/12/only-android-compatible/
And you expected a different outcome? As much as I liked the Vibrant except for the suck GPS, I gave up on it and imported a Galaxy Nexus back when it launched. I will never.....ever....get suckered into another phone that has the Tmobile name stamped on it. And to think they just announced the Blaze 4G.....why? So they can screw the remaining customers with a Galaxy S 4G out of support?
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And you expected a different outcome? As much as I liked the Vibrant except for the suck GPS, I gave up on it and imported a Galaxy Nexus back when it launched. I will never.....ever....get suckered into another phone that has the Tmobile name stamped on it. And to think they just announced the Blaze 4G.....why? So they can screw the remaining customers with a Galaxy S 4G out of support?
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Harsh words my friend but very true.
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Vibrant probably won't ever get it unfortunately, though nothing stock on the vibrant was ever good.
God, all you guys do is *****. Go flash ics or an i9000 gb port. They're perfectly stable with great battery life. It's better than being stuck on froyo.
You're in xda. If you wanna complain about not getting an update, go do it in the T-Mobile forums.
Think of it this way: At least you didn't but a crappy htc phone.
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Vibrant has been fine for me. I have CM7 nightly 182 (the last one )
Yeah, no GPS, but whatever. I'm now just waiting on an ICS build that fixes the mute/unmute issue to flash.
Samsung really dropped the ball on this phone, but it didn't stop me from making the best of it. When a "must have" quad core comes out, I'm upgrading. Until then, I'm happy with what I got.
I agree with Thechosenone, ICS Passion v11 works beautifully on my Vibrant. If you do not want to unlock your phone's true potential what are you doing in XDA? That is the whole reason this site exists, so devs can perfect their ROMS by getting user feedback and such.... Go ***** on the T mo forums please!
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I agree with Thechosenone, ICS Passion v11 works beautifully on my Vibrant. If you do not want to unlock your phone's true potential what are you doing in XDA? That is the whole reason this site exists, so devs can perfect their ROMS by getting user feedback and such.... Go ***** on the T mo forums please!
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Well Passion may work really, really well but imagine what it could do with the actual code from the actual ICS ROM? Think there would be the mute/unmute bug, or the Deep Sleep issues, or the GPS (aside from hardware problems) issues? This thread is about GB and not ICS but you brought it up.
XDA is for developers, not people like you and me. We are nothing more that by-products. Now if those developers really want to create something special, how do they do it. By getting the source of course (github ring a bell).
Complaining here about GB or ICS is futile b/c we are not going to get either. We can try (see my signature) but until the give us the code, there will be unresolved issues. Take a look at the 2.2 ROMs. How many of those have problems. Very few my friend. Now take a look at any 2.3 ROM. Every single one of them has battery issues and/or memory leaks. Why do you think that is? Because we got an "official" Froyo to build off of and have yet to see ann "offical" GB (not a port mind you).
The vibrant is considered discontinued. It doesn't make sense for Tmobile to support it any longer. Plus, all those people that chose to switch to the memory gimped gs4g didn't help the situation any. Just think of it this way: anyone who got the vibrant will be eligible for an upgrade right around the time the gs3 will be released. Hopefully it comes with an exynos processor this time.
As far as source code is concerned, at least we have hardware that is very close to the international version.
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I agree with Thechosenone, ICS Passion v11 works beautifully on my Vibrant. If you do not want to unlock your phone's true potential what are you doing in XDA? That is the whole reason this site exists, so devs can perfect their ROMS by getting user feedback and such.... Go ***** on the T mo forums please!
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Do you have the mute/unmute issue? I didn't know if it was for every Vibrant or certain ones. For my work, I can't be muting and unmuting every incoming call ... Thanks in advance!
It doesn't matter anyway. All of the new phones are incremental upgrades at best. If you think about the price/functionality ratio, the vibrant is still the best bet for those who already own it. I can't justify $680 (Nexus) for a phone that can't do anything that my phone does already, just because it's updated more frequently.
I would love to have that screen, but if I just hold out and actually own my Vibrant for 2 years (July 2012), I'm sure I'll have access to Samsung's Quad-Core, which will probably be much better than Tegra 3. Plus the HD screen will probably be upgraded to Plus. Not to mention the GPU itself will be immaculate for all the phone gamers out there.
As far as ICS, there is a viable option on the Vibrant and it will continue to improve. As for me, I always end up going back to Bionix V anyway (the battery life/performance perfect balance)
I will aways be sad about the lack of official post froyo rom for such a great phone as the Vibrant is. We, xda users, wouldn't use a full Samsung GB or ICS rom, but just the officially ported GPS drivers would be a huge benefit. Sometimes I think that this is THE reason for no updates from Samsung: even they cant make it properly work in GB. And it just makes me admire even more the very talented devs here that make it work without docs.
Agreeing with others here: waiting for the unmute issue to be fixed then I'm jumping ship with my significant other's Vibrant. These ROMs are better than what Samsung/carriers release in my opinion.
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After switching back to Bionix 1.3.1 ROM (FishmanMod) from Gingerbread exported ROMs, I am still happy and can live with Vibrant, and after playing around with GS2 or newer android phones, feel no point on upgrading, Vibrant still works great
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Today i went to a android meet up in Utrecht Holland... There were a few employees from samsung Holland and they said to me that Froyo is going to be released late october early November here in holland. Because they want to do it right at once. .. And he also told me that the GPS will be updated separately. They got a whole team working on the GPS. So this not so nice to hear. But i look it on the bright side. . They are working on it really hard. They also said to me that they do care about the costumers. And they had also 5 galaxy tabs and i can tell you They rock! Quote of the evening : Samsung employee to mee with my Galaxy S in his hand :How the hell can you have a newer firmware then me. .. He got JPH...
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just as i though, like on the joke poll "when will froyo be released"
i guessed on November/December
you'll see it's going to be a merry Xmas from samsung when they release Froyo on the 25 Dec
Let them take their sweet time, as long as they get it right
So now we are talking about oct/nov.. This is becoming the epix wait.
Well I'm like dying to have it but I'm one for quality then quickness. So if that's true I'm all for the wait.
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Well I'm like dying to have it but I'm one for quality then quickness. So if that's true I'm all for the wait.
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+1 here, I'd rather wait a couple of months for something that won't be unusable that get something now that we'll be constantly complaining over to get patches etc.
I just wish Samsung would be more open with us about these things rather than letting us down. I would respect them more if they'd just tell us straight rather than giving false/un-meetable deadlines.
The lesson learned here for me is that I won't buy a Samsung phone again. The HTC Desire got its update to Froyo a lot earlier. I mean by the time they release Froyo for the Galaxy Google probably has release Gingerbread. Guess we have to wait till June '11 or maybe forever for that...
I got myself blinded by the great hardware specs. But with any hardware it is useless without the proper software to it. I dont think I expect to much from a device I paid 450 EUR for...
When was Desire launched and when was Galaxy S?
Also, have you read about the delays of eclair for htc hero?
Anyway, my last htc phone was and will be htc hero (beside poor costumer support they have inferior hardware in comparison to motorola, samsung, etc)*.
Don't start me on Motorola Europe. Just look at their Facebook page. Be warned though it is almost entirely Adult rated and definitely not for those of a delicate nature.
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The lesson learned here for me is that I won't buy a Samsung phone again. The HTC Desire got its update to Froyo a lot earlier. I mean by the time they release Froyo for the Galaxy Google probably has release Gingerbread. Guess we have to wait till June '11 or maybe forever for that...
I got myself blinded by the great hardware specs. But with any hardware it is useless without the proper software to it. I dont think I expect to much from a device I paid 450 EUR for...
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I understand what you are going through, But you must rememeber that the HTC Desire is a clone of the Google Nexus One, THE DEVELOPEMENT PHONE. so OF CAUSE the htc Desire gets the goodies first. Myself I'm pissed off that Froyo disn't have a optimized JIT for Hummingbird cpu! grrrrr.. Frankly I don't care if Froyo comes out anymore as I just wanted the JIT optimized like the Snapdragon cpu's . Also I'm hell thankful for not buying a X10, They still havn't even updated to 2.1 YET! so when (if) we SGS people are playing with Froyo (be it broken) they will finally get 2.1! heheh
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I understand what you are going through, But you must rememeber that the HTC Desire is a clone of the Google Nexus One, THE DEVELOPEMENT PHONE. so OF CAUSE the htc Desire gets the goodies first. Myself I'm pissed off that Froyo disn't have a optimized JIT for Hummingbird cpu! grrrrr.. Frankly I don't care if Froyo comes out anymore as I just wanted the JIT optimized like the Snapdragon cpu's . Also I'm hell thankful for not buying a X10, They still havn't even updated to 2.1 YET! so when (if) we SGS people are playing with Froyo (be it broken) they will finally get 2.1! heheh
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The thing that will really piss people off will be the upcoming galaxy tab that will be shipping with froyo for nov 1. That will make it painfully obvious on where Samsung is directing their dev team
They've worked too long on Froyo. Lets see what kind of garbage they will manage to churn out again. This is consequence of have poor staff engineers and interns as main coders and testers. In reality, the SW team is 2-3 "engineers" and a QA team of just one.
Having come from 1.6 on the Sony Ericsson Xperia X10, who have delayed the 2.1 release yet further to the Galaxy S (JM1) I have no problem waiting for the official release of 2.2.
I'm just happy to have a phone that actually works, unlike many people I have read on this and other forums having issues with the GPS I don't seem to be suffering the levels of inaccuracy that other do. But then again I don't really use the GPS so not even that big an issue for me.
And at least Samsung are getting it together in terms of the 2.2 update, Sony Ericsson looks like delaying the base 2.1 until around December.
I'm in the get it right, rather than get it quick, camp.
2.2 on the desire offers a plethora of nice improvements (I have the official upgrade on my own desire), but it's not faultless. Samsung have a range of issues to deal with and it's not unreasonable to assume that they might need more time to bring the galaxy s up to speed compared with the desire, which was by common consent functioning better under 2.1.
I think one has to be aware that ones personal concerns with the device are not necessarily majority concerns. Comparing my desire with the sgs, I still reach for my sgs for some tasks (internet, streamed media) in preference to the desire. The screen quality makes a massive difference and the speed and graphics acceleration makes the sgs feel more responsive. The desire feels like a workhorse, the sgs feels like fun.
Addressing the issues properly is much more important than rushing out a new set of bugs, in my view. In the meantime I find stock t-mobile fine, and better than most of my experiences with HTC windows mobile handsets out of the box.
If you really want 2.2 now you, can get it. Personally I find it reassuring that a professional team is out there trying to get it stable and optimised for the device.
Good info, thanks.
I'm all for quality too. I haven't touched my stock 2.1 yet. No lag fix, no rooting or anything, and I'm quite happy with it.
Don't get me wrong, I'd like the features of 2.2 as well, especially voice activated, handsfree dialing via bluetooth, but I'm not willing to take the risk of bricking my phone because leaked roms, or lag fixes may cause damage.
Some of you are willing to take that risk, more power to you, that's what development is all about. I'm just not willing to do that as yet. If Samsung stated they won't be providing an update, then fine. But they are, and I'm willing to wait.
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Personally I find it reassuring that a professional team is out there trying to get it stable and optimised for the device.
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They've worked too long on Froyo. Lets see what kind of garbage they will manage to churn out again. This is consequence of have poor staff engineers and interns as main coders and testers. In reality, the SW team is 2-3 "engineers" and a QA team of just one.
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How do YOU know that? Or do you just like trolling?
In reality, it might be that device development is a lot more difficult than people think. OSX Server 10.5 is an example of a product which took MUCH longer than 4 months to be useful, and we all know that Apple aren't a team of 2-3 engineers. How much Froyo development experience do you have to be able to say whats acceptable?
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How do YOU know that?
Or do you just like trolling?
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Look at the end result. Look the SGS that most people have in their hands...
Umm, thats a silly assumption.
The difference is that whilst every unhappy user seems to be jumping thread to thread making noise, those of us who are happy aren't creating threads everywhere praising Samsung. The discussions are unbalanced here. At one point of time, someone DID create a thread which was for people who liked the device, and it REALLY filled up.
So really, you don't have ANY development experience do you? It's more likely Samsung simply launched the product a bit prematurely in order to capture the market (and it worked), and now they are fixing the bugs. They have already fixed a lot..
You must also remember, we don't have access to the latest Samsung Builds.
I still think vibrant is better than nexus s besides 2.3!!
still the same 16gb, no sd card, no 720p, nfc is just a receiver only (i read somewhere)
http://androidapproved.com/item/nexus-s-vs-galaxy-s-vs-nexus-one/
me keeping my vibrant
I know everyone is going to beat this topic to death. Is there any reason to grab the nexus if you have a vibrant. Is there anything besides the FFC.
As long as there are drivers available for the BT/WIFI/GPS, there is no need to get the Nexus S if you have a Vibrant. The rom will be ported to us anyway.
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I know everyone is going to beat this topic to death. Is there any reason to grab the nexus if you have a vibrant. Is there anything besides the FFC.
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there is flash. there is 2.3 and there will be future updates as well. i also think it looks much better then Vibrant.
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As long as there are drivers available for the BT/WIFI/GPS, there is no need to get the Nexus S if you have a Vibrant. The rom will be ported to us anyway.
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the question is when ? It took a long time and very buggy releases from Galaxy S Froyo until finally Vibrant leaks started to come out. When do you think they will leak 2.3......even 2.2 is not out yet.....
so porting from Nexus S might not be as easy as it looks......
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there is flash. there is 2.3 and there will be future updates as well. i also think it looks much better then Vibrant.
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I agree with the Nexus does look better then the vibrants iphone look. Dont we have flash on vibrant or am I missing something. And soon as the Chefs around here get a smell of 2.3 it wont be long until its on vibrant.
Is the cpu any faster? Adding ffc mod to Vibrant makes it a Nexus right?
Camera flash..i think he means.
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I agree with the Nexus does look better then the vibrants iphone look. Dont we have flash on vibrant or am I missing something. And soon as the Chefs around here get a smell of 2.3 it wont be long until its on vibrant.
Is the cpu any faster? Adding ffc mod to Vibrant makes it a Nexus right?
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Camera flash we dont have. 2.1 also does not have Adobe Flash, only 2.2. They also added NFC which is useless to most, SAMOLED class is curved (which i think is cool), FFC is there, 3.0 bluetooth was taken out and replaced with 2.1....no biggy here. Everything else is the same.
Onces I play with it in store, i will know for sure if i want it. I hate how Vibrant feels in hand, if Nexus S is the same, then no go.....
The point of the Nexus S is that it a bare bones Android phone. Meaning there is little in the way of Samsung and T-mobile, or other carriers. This means ideally that as soon as Google releases an update it should be realitively quick to get it to Nexus S. As opposed to the Vibrant that we are still waiting on amn official release. My understanding anyway I could be wrong.
Well I'm getting one just to have a working GPS at the least... I hope to god they've rectified that train wreck.
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Well I'm getting one just to have a working GPS at the least... I hope to god they've rectified that train wreck.
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dont know about that...... hardware should be the same. only time will tell.
ps. NS also lacks SD Card slot.....
If only for the support, I agree. I wonder, will it support at&t frequencies?
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Cant use my 32 gig sd card full of videos and music. Humm, thats a deal breaker. Plus no dual core cpu? No 720P? pffft.
But it is the new test phone, so it will always have the latest and greatest. I still dont have a real Cyanogen 6.x for my vibrant.
I see no compelling reason to go from a Galaxy S to the Nexus S. FFC is useless to me and can be added anyway. Camera flash is no big deal. First crack at the Google software is the big seller, but that's mostly just geek cred not particularly useful. I'm happy with the modified ROMS on the Vibrant. Lack of SD card hurts the Nexus. NFC will be useless for a while.
However if I didn't already have a Galaxy S I'd be looking at the Nexus S if only to get a working GPS... presumably. Have to wait for some real world reviews.
Personally I dont need a ffc or a flash, my sister has an evo and she uses her ffc maybe twice a month. I almost never use the camera in dim light conditions plus the night vision on the vibrant is good enough. Similar 1ghz processor, 512ram, no sd card is killing me!! eventually 2.3 will be ported to vibrant just a matter of time!!
ps gps issue has been addressed in almost every rom in the dev section.
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the question is when ? It took a long time and very buggy releases from Galaxy S Froyo until finally Vibrant leaks started to come out. When do you think they will leak 2.3......even 2.2 is not out yet.....
so porting from Nexus S might not be as easy as it looks......
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It's not "easy" but easier than you're making it sound. Your comparison is irrelevant. The reason froyo took so long to port over was differences in the device we were porting from, and once the JK2 froyo build leaked, it was running near perfect on the vibrant the same day. 2.3 is out and released already and the device we'd be porting it from has an almost identical setup and also is compatible with the T-mobile network from the get go etc etc. I'd say there's gonna be some sort of working port by the end of the year without a doubt.
On the google page about the Nexus S it said that it featured wifi hotspot without additional fees from carriers. If the Nexus S is ported to the vibrant any chance that feature could be included too?
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It's not "easy" but easier than you're making it sound. Your comparison is irrelevant. The reason froyo took so long to port over was differences in the device we were porting from, and once the JK2 froyo build leaked, it was running near perfect on the vibrant the same day. 2.3 is out and released already and the device we'd be porting it from has an almost identical setup and also is compatible with the T-mobile network from the get go etc etc. I'd say there's gonna be some sort of working port by the end of the year without a doubt.
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How is Galaxy S different from Vibrant vs Nexus S different from Vibrant ?
port from Galaxy S was never working 100% until Vibrant Froyo (JK2) leaked. GPS wasnt working, all buttons were messed up, 3.5mm jack wasnt fully functional...etc. and 2.3 Vibrant leak is NOT coming in near future or most likely EVER.
people are speculating that it may be difficult to port 2.3 over to vibrant si,ply be cause it uses iNAND flash memory but IDK im no developer
have to wait and see when its released
Also specs might be very similar but we dont know on how similar the hardware is...drivers could still be incompatible with galaxy S hardware
I wouldn't expect to see samsung release 2.3 for galaxy S line of phones IMO they probably have some sort of deal with google to exclusively have 2.3 on nexus S and google would lose sales if galaxy S got 2.3 as an OTA
Hey.
I am thinking of getting android phone, and samsung vibrant is on my list, but I want to know what is better than vibrant at the moment?
Any other andriod phones better than vibrant at the moment that has good features?
I cannot afford Nexus S at the moment as its very expensive without any contract.
Thanks.
You may find other phones that people claim is faster, such as g2 or mytouch 4g or something...but I have yet to see another android phone with the amazing gpu performance of the vibrant..plus, with a few tweaks, this phone is faster than lightning...
But to be fair, Samsung support for the phone isn't all the best. Don't expect timely updates and such. However, our dev community here is awesome and with it, you probably wont miss support from Samsung...
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Vibrant and Nexus S are bascily the same, a bit different.
umm... i really can't think of any other phone. Vibrant has filled my needs, but if you plan NOT to put a custom rom on it, or Root it... then... dont get the vibrant, samsung has quit on us, and the devs are the only reason this section is alive.
I dont know how to root or what roms are, etc, but I was waiting for 2.2 I heard it had good features.
So but now that 2.2 is not coming out are there any roms that can fill that gap?
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I dont know how to root or what roms are, etc, but I was waiting for 2.2 I heard it had good features.
So but now that 2.2 is not coming out are there any roms that can fill that gap?
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YES.
If your looking for a 2.2, there are some awesome ROMS.
Nero, Ginger Clone, and Axura are the most popular currently.
They DO have a FEW bugs, but they're pretty small ones.
there has been a LEAKED froyo(2.2) rom, if you want a stock one, there is one.
I think you'd love a Vibrant. Before you get irritated, when you buy it, open it right there, and in front of the guy who sold it to you check if the GPS works, some new ones still don't work, and if it doesn't ask for another, and another if you have to, but be sure to make the GPS work wether you use GPS or not, you'll get annoyed later.
Also, if you don't know how to root or flash custom ROMs, there are PLENTY of EASY STEP-by-STEP tutorials to do it.
Just get the nexus S if you don't want to root. Bad side of it is it doesn't have a external storage.
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Just get the nexus S if you don't want to root. Bad side of it is it doesn't have a external storage.
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Yup no ext SD was a definite deal breaker for me. Other then that it's a very nice phone.
The mt4g is a great phone for the casual person. But i wouldnt trade my vibrant for it, Im gonna wait for the fabled galaxy s2.
Fear the beard...
I actually went ahead and pulled the trigger on getting a Nexus S today. I love my Vibrant and I'm keeping it as I've had loads of fun with it because of all the community support. Macnut R14 was and is still my rom of choice with the phone and it's very smooth and not that buggy at all - and my GPS works.
Having said that, the reason I got the NS is due to direct Google support. Considering Gingerbread is out now and Samsung has yet to deliver Froyo to 3 of the 4 GS models stateside, I finally made the decision to drive something I know is going to get timely updates. If you're not going to root get the Nexus the trade offs make it about even. If you are going to root then the Vibrant could a strong choice considering what it has over the NS. I know I'll still be here flashing roms for my Vibrant even though I have a different phone to play on now.
If I didn't mind being on Sprint, I'd say the Sprint HTC EVO is better in some respects than the Vibrant. No other phones come to mind. I also still consider the Vibrant to be the best Android powered phone on T-Mobile ATM. FYI, I don't like phones with built-in physical keyboards so I tend to immediately rule those out. The lack of both the SD card slot and gorilla glass on the screen are deal killers for me on the Nexus S when comparing it to the Vibrant. The Nexus S offers nothing I want which I don't already have (EXT4 file system) or won't get in the future (Gingerbread). Timely updates aren't worth it to me.
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I actually went ahead and pulled the trigger on getting a Nexus S today. I love my Vibrant and I'm keeping it as I've had loads of fun with it because of all the community support. Macnut R14 was and is still my rom of choice with the phone and it's very smooth and not that buggy at all - and my GPS works.
Having said that, the reason I got the NS is due to direct Google support. Considering Gingerbread is out now and Samsung has yet to deliver Froyo to 3 of the 4 GS models stateside, I finally made the decision to drive something I know is going to get timely updates. If you're not going to root get the Nexus the trade offs make it about even. If you are going to root then the Vibrant could a strong choice considering what it has over the NS. I know I'll still be here flashing roms for my Vibrant even though I have a different phone to play on now.
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i envy you. i wish i have the money to buy nexus S. My mom wouldn't agree because my vibrant is 4 months old.
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i envy you. i wish i have the money to buy nexus S. My mom wouldn't agree because my vibrant is 4 months old.
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Maybe a job would help.
If you can, wait it out a few more months. There are indications that the LG Optimus phone is coming to T-Mobile in early March.
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Maybe a job would help.
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unfortunately, i can't take a job right now. it's a long story. lol
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For the price of the Vibrants right now this is the best bang for your buck stock or not. Fast processor, very customizable, 14gig storage STOCK with an external slot to increase that to only the limits of microSD cards.
My opinion is the casual user will not notice a difference in 2.1 2.2 or 2.3 aside from some cosmetics which can be imitated by many free market apps. Casual user.....
For the non casual user I will reiterate what my fellow enthusiast have already pointed out. We are blessed with some REALLY talented ROM developers that have been nothing but generous with their time and efforts.
I have never gone to a manufacturer for support on any phone I have owned. Majority of the time the communities solve the problem 1000x faster.
I would also like to point out I am not biased to this phone because I own it lol, it just happens to be the one I own currently. I for one LOVE my Vibrant. I have had a g1, my touch, every iphone and some in between.
I have only used two other android phones: the Mytouch 4G and the G2. Both are hands down a much better user/android experience than the Vibrant i now own.
The only thing that makes me think about keeping the vibrant over these other phones is that the vibrant kicks their asses when it comes to audio playback, the quality is noticeably better.
Appart from that, battery life on the vibrant is lame, the screen is big but the colors are off, withes are actually blueish. The stock software is horrible, touchwiz is a joke, seriously, so is the fact that this thing still runs 2.1.
For the more that people talk about the speed of this phone, i found it to be incredibly laggy and slow, from apps to file transfers.
Ironically the best thing about the vibrant is that it made me use my phone a lot less than the Mt4G or the G2. The G2 made me a very anti-social person.
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Currently have the iphone 4 from a trade I did with my nexus one. Going back to android! Stuck on which to choose the nexus S or the vibrant. Seems as if both phones are pretty much the same. Save a few hundred with the vibrant or go with the S
Thanks for all the answers, I got the Vibrant!!!!
Now, when it arrives, then need to do some reading on roms,flash,root, etc as I dont know anything about them....
To get full flash in browser, and to get GPS to work fully (if it does not work, hopefully it will) what ROM is the best to flash? And by flashing that rom, will I lose any of the stock rom features?
Because my vibrant will have stock 2.1
cthulion said:
Ironically the best thing about the vibrant is that it made me use my phone a lot less than the Mt4G or the G2. The G2 made me a very anti-social person.
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I said the same thing to the T-Mobile Reps. a couple months ago The phone has actually changed the way I use smartphones. Before I was always tethered to my smartphone, now I have to make sure I don't forget to pick it up when I go or leave some place. I don't really use it that much. It's just not fun. I tend to carry my notebook with me, now, and of course my ZuneHD
I think my next phone will almost certainly have a full QWERTY slide-out. Swipes way of automatically adding typos to the dictionary is annoying. I spent like an hour last night just removing typos that kept registering as words when trying to send texts and stuff.
My thought is that the Vibrant is the best media device on the market right now. Great codec support, best screen, excellent storage.
I've considered buying the Nexus S to use as a phone and to keep the Vibrant like it's an iPod Touch, just a movie/music/game device.
Samfirmware twittered last night http://mobile.twitter.com/samfirmware/status/34382086026567681
Samsung test Android 2.3 for i9000 and p1000 we have no more info at the moment.
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This is very good news!
Why make another thread for this ? It's already in the "Android 2.3 any info?" post.. It's XDA Forum here, not Twitter, we don't need zillion of posts about 2.3 status.
very good!!!!!
I think they testing on their own i9000 because mine still got 2.2 froyo wich is also not official rom because no foryo yet released for pakistan
samsung is extremely lazy in releasing updates, so relax and go to sleep !
Haven't they been 'testing' for months....
Useless!!
I was personally told they were testing 2.3 before froyo was even released for the sgs.
Come upgrade day, not sure I will stick with Samsung, I love my sgs but the updates and software coding they do to their own android versions, really does suck.
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While i agree with the Samsung bashing about software quality and other updates.
Is there any real benefit to roms on other devices. I know of cyanogen name miui. But at the end of the day there ain't too much of a benefit over what we already have.
At the end of the day what Samsung may lack in software they made up for in the hardware on our devices.
Everybody here will have done their research before buying the device, it weren't hard to work out Samsung were still getting to grips with android.
Im sure in time they will mature and make very good software, but this will take time. Rome wasn't built in a day.
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Totally agree man, the SGS was my first android, and also my first Samsung and I have been with them ever since. I have bought a nexus S the day it came out. Samsung hardware is great but they seemed to be overwhelmed with the different models and such. And with the SGS2 coming out soon, I am not sure about 2.3 for us. However that is why XDA is so important for us.
Rome might not be built in a day, but ROMs can be
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While i agree with the Samsung bashing about software quality and other updates.
Is there any real benefit to roms on other devices. I know of cyanogen name miui. But at the end of the day there ain't too much of a benefit over what we already have.
At the end of the day what Samsung may lack in software they made up for in the hardware on our devices.
Everybody here will have done their research before buying the device, it weren't hard to work out Samsung were still getting to grips with android.
Im sure in time they will mature and make very good software, but this will take time. Rome wasn't built in a day.
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While I appreciate the fine work done on the xda ROM's, I would much rather like the official ROM that has undergone a lot of testing and has the backing of the manufacturer. Since Samsung has not given any indication of its commitment to a phone beyond a few months, the Galaxy S would probably be the last Samsung product that I buy.
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Haven't they been 'testing' for months....
Useless!!
I was personally told they were testing 2.3 before froyo was even released for the sgs. Come upgrade day, not sure I will stick with Samsung, I love my sgs but the updates and software coding they do to their own android versions, really does suck.
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This might come as a shock, but it's one thing to ship a customised ROM with plenty of upgrade issues (etc).
It's a total other for a major company to do so. I know the guys at XDA make ROM development seem easy, but the reality is, that's because Samsung has already done most the work for them.. Lets be realistic, any ROM out there in the community which isn't a slightly modified Samsung ROM, is extremely buggy still.. Furthermore, Samsung needs to consider the various rebranded models, etc.
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This might come as a shock, but it's one thing to ship a customised ROM with plenty of upgrade issues (etc).
It's a total other for a major company to do so. I know the guys at XDA make ROM development seem easy, but the reality is, that's because Samsung has already done most the work for them.. Lets be realistic, any ROM out there in the community which isn't a slightly modified Samsung ROM, is extremely buggy still.. Furthermore, Samsung needs to consider the various rebranded models, etc.
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Bro, have you tried CM7? It's fricken amazing.
A lot of folks here on XDA are (almost) as talented, or even more so, than half the clowns working at Samsung. I'm sure they learn a thing or two from around here.
Only reason the Nexus S is so good is because Google did all the development.
Yes, Samsung has eventually shipped very nice & fast 2.2.1 ROMs. But how long did it take, and how long will it take for Gingerbread?
I'm placing my faith in CM7 which will continue to improve.
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Bro, have you tried CM7? It's fricken amazing.
A lot of folks here on XDA are (almost) as talented, or even more so, than half the clowns working at Samsung. I'm sure they learn a thing or two from around here.
Only reason the Nexus S is so good is because Google did all the development.
Yes, Samsung has eventually shipped very nice & fast 2.2.1 ROMs. But how long did it take, and how long will it take for Gingerbread?
I'm placing my faith in CM7 which will continue to improve.
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I wouldn't doubt samsung used some of the kernel devs from heres code in their 2.2.1 roms (namely lastufo, hardcore and trasig)
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While I appreciate the fine work done on the xda ROM's, I would much rather like the official ROM that has undergone a lot of testing and has the backing of the manufacturer. Since Samsung has not given any indication of its commitment to a phone beyond a few months, the Galaxy S would probably be the last Samsung product that I buy.
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Unfortunately that is also my point of view and I cannot spend my hard earned money to a company that cannot commit itself to it's costumers. Probably the Galaxy S will be the last phone from Samsung that I buy.
On a side note, I'm looking forward for the Nokia / Microsoft partnership. I played with a WP7 this days and I got very surprise by the build quality and software.
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Unfortunately that is also my point of view and I cannot spend my hard earned money to a company that cannot commit itself to it's costumers. Probably the Galaxy S will be the last phone from Samsung that I buy.
On a side note, I'm looking forward for the Nokia / Microsoft partnership. I played with a WP7 this days and I got very surprise by the build quality and software.
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WP7 would be mistake buddy ....
if we can't get 2.3 from samsung, maybe ROM modders here in XDA can
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Bro, have you tried CM7? It's fricken amazing.
A lot of folks here on XDA are (almost) as talented, or even more so, than half the clowns working at Samsung. I'm sure they learn a thing or two from around here.
Only reason the Nexus S is so good is because Google did all the development.
Yes, Samsung has eventually shipped very nice & fast 2.2.1 ROMs. But how long did it take, and how long will it take for Gingerbread?
I'm placing my faith in CM7 which will continue to improve.
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I'm afraid this post is pure tripe!
CM7 is nowhere near stable yet; not even all the "advertised" features work! I'm not bashing them, because they know there's still bugs, but just think for a minute.... how vocal would you be, in a very demeaning manner, if Samsung had put out CM7 as it stands now?
As for Google "doing all the development [on Nexus S] - I think you'll find that they only did (at most) 50%. Most, if not all, the initial hardware driver support, which is the KEY to making Android work on any device, will have been done by Samsung, as it's them who has the knowledge, skills & facilities to make the phone. Once you've got the hardware drivers / abstraction layer; its very easy to put any OS you want on top! (do you really, really think there's a huge hardware difference between Samsung's Bada, Android, WP7 & even Symbian phones?)
Now, I'm not saying Samsung are the best at delivering updates, but they're better than some *cough* Motorola *cough* and their hardware is still the pinnacle of what's available. And yes, there's a few talented people on XDA, but there's also a hell of a lot more who muddy the waters and generally add to the nonsense going round by wrongly accusing Samsung / XDA devs / polar bears of X, Y, & Z.
Some of you have to take a good look into all that is "technology" and the likes...Most likely, once a device is out, YOU WILL NOT GET MAJOR UPDATES besides bug correction. And this is valid for every company.
Consider yourself lucky to get major release like 2.2 or 2.3, most of the others makers (HTC, Sony, Motorola) are still on 2.1.
Take a good look there and see by yourself:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Android_devices
Most of the devices don't even have 2.2.1 and the only one with 2.3 is still Nexus S.
WP7 had a long run before releasing the first bug correction (not even sure if it's out yet...)
Even worst, iOs users have to PAY for their release
So, you can complain all you want but reality is far from what you are thinking...
Now, as for 2.3, it's supposed to be optimised for SGS hardware (because of the Nexus S), can't wait to see how it goes!
theres a good chance we will get 2.3 because galaxy s phone are still being sold and the 4g ones
I sincerely hope samsung is gonna surprise us one of these days (even then probably later rather than sooner), since 2.3 is finally optimized for the hummingbird aswell... Also the screen shutdown animation kicks ass.
On another note: Samsung should really communicate better, and ffs train your customer support. I tried to poke for some information earlier this week, and I got a response saying: Samsung is not responsible for the updates, please contact the responsible party, in this case "Android".
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Okay, others have asked prime or hercules, and my real question that would determine which I choose.. our vibrants had REAL potential. No less than the new phone should have, just lesser hardware. All of the sgs1 us versions seem to have no support or updates except what you find on here(after a few months).
Will the hercules have the same fate? Is there any reason to believe they won't do the same thing again? I don't want to spend another 500+ on a device they forget about a few months after they release it. Would you take the chance seeing their track record with our phone and variants?
The most odd thing is that the international versions seem to be better supported(the i9100 more than i9000), so is the problem that they don't want to waste their resources keeping 4 different models of the phone updated in the US? And could they possibly keep the hardware on the us variants close enough spec wise that they could work on an upgrade for all versions, and just tweak each for specific devices?
I know there are no solid answers out there, but I am more wondering what the community here thinks.
Most likely not this happened do to the SGS4G came out if something similar happens again but you know that is why there is xda an the cyanogen team so don't worry
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Not sure what the guy above wrote, but yes it will happen again. I dont think its sammys fault completly. More so the US carriers. My next phone will either be a nexus/htc/motoroogle.
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Yes it will most likely happen again. It's the carrier's business model. They want you to shell out the money to buy the newer phone so they only support the older model for so long. Get a Nexus phone if you want updates faster.
From what I have read this far the sg2 will be replaced by the sg2 plus to match the nexus prime's screen resolution. Because of that fact I will not buy sg2 as well the nexus phone will be the last sammy phone because google just acquired motorola. So the next google phone will be a motorola.
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Yes it will most likely happen again. It's the carrier's business model. They want you to shell out the money to buy the newer phone so they only support the older model for so long. Get a Nexus phone if you want updates faster.
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Well the nexus got updates quicker and I constantly see(via news readers) most phones getting updates regardless of carrier.
What the jasonhunterx said(that I could understand) about having xda or cyanogen is opposite of ideal.. where would our devices be if we got a source from Samsung for gingerbread? Miles ahead, everything working, less headaches for developers and users..
But I don't see this as something the carrier is responsible for unless the manufacturer made an agreement with them, which would border on crooked.
I would have bought the sgs2 if it wasn't with att bands.. and there's no promise that the prime will be offeres as a T-Mobile phone.
If the prime doesn't hit T-Mobile and the Hercules is doomed to make the same mistakes, what phone would you get to stay with tmo? Is there an international phone that has the right bands and can compare to sgs2, Hercules, or prime?
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Yes it WILL happen. The right thing to do is just buy a nexus phone.
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Yes it WILL happen. The right thing to do is just buy a nexus phone.
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And if Samsung makes the prime? Or if tmo doesn't get the prime? That is the question.
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I believe that the Hercules will have much better support. In my opinion, just like the second poster said, they stopped supporting the vibrant because tmo launched its new "4g" service not too long after the vibrant dropped. So unless 5g comes out a week after the Hercules, I don't think we should have anything to worry about. I hope.......
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Of course its going to happen.
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Here is a position I just don't understand. I won't call it whining. Lets say the constant negative portrayal of the Galaxy S line, Samsung, and every other phone manufacturer at one time or another as not supporting or updating their software often enough.
If you look at it objectively, does the Vibrant really need an update? It came out with Eclair. Then came the upgrade to Froyo, which raised Quadrant scores (if you care about that sort of thing) four fold. Finally, the incremental upgrades through Froyo from J all the way to KB5. KB5 is rock-solid stable and fast in its stock form, and even better when customized.
So why all the complaining? The phone is fast and stable. I don't hear anyone complaining about Team Whiskey's Bionix 1.3.1 even though they haven't updated it in many months. Why? Because it's fine as is. So, in my opinion, is the Vibrant.
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Here is a position I just don't understand. I won't call it whining. Lets say the constant negative portrayal of the Galaxy S line, Samsung, and every other phone manufacturer at one time or another as not supporting or updating their software often enough.
If you look at it objectively, does the Vibrant really need an update? It came out with Eclair. Then came the upgrade to Froyo, which raised Quadrant scores (if you care about that sort of thing) four fold. Finally, the incremental upgrades through Froyo from J all the way to KB5. KB5 is rock-solid stable and fast in its stock form, and even better when customized.
So why all the complaining? The phone is fast and stable. I don't hear anyone complaining about Team Whiskey's Bionix 1.3.1 even though they haven't updated it in many months. Why? Because it's fine as is. So, in my opinion, is the Vibrant.
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Yes 2.2 for vibrant is stable but there are some Apps that can only be use when you're using gingerbread.
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Yes 2.2 for vibrant is stable but there are some Apps that can only be use when you're using gingerbread.
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There's like 2 of those
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Here is a position I just don't understand. I won't call it whining. Lets say the constant negative portrayal of the Galaxy S line, Samsung, and every other phone manufacturer at one time or another as not supporting or updating their software often enough.
If you look at it objectively, does the Vibrant really need an update? It came out with Eclair. Then came the upgrade to Froyo, which raised Quadrant scores (if you care about that sort of thing) four fold. Finally, the incremental upgrades through Froyo from J all the way to KB5. KB5 is rock-solid stable and fast in its stock form, and even better when customized.
So why all the complaining? The phone is fast and stable. I don't hear anyone complaining about Team Whiskey's Bionix 1.3.1 even though they haven't updated it in many months. Why? Because it's fine as is. So, in my opinion, is the Vibrant.
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There are phones running 1.5 stable, but that isn't a reason it shouldn't be upgraded to whatever it can run. Take the Motorola droid. I have no idea what they updated to, but the og droid has run cyanogen stable far before our vibrant could run it at all. It is a solid phone, and wasn't "discarded" by the manufacturer soon after the release. They did a good job I heard.
The sgs1 branded phone is capable of more than the current generation of android. The iphone, with all the things I don't like about the way they do their phones, supports multiple generations of their products for multiple years. Our phones shouldn't be 2 generations of os behind with no real hope of an upgrade within a year of coming out.
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pretty sure yes, so if u want a SGS II get the "international' version
for me NO MORE US VERSION of any Samsung phone
I think the Hercules will be the lower of the other sgs2 variants nothing will be easy just as the vibrant was full of great dev but nothing to work with but the same stuff. GB has came a long way we thought that was going to be a easy port, lol I really hope they at least get the gps right on the sgs2 this run. End of rant ;-)
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I say look at track record.
Behold->Vibrant-> hercules. It just goes to show, if you want something done, you just have to do it yourself. I mean really, I just rooted lg vortex, from two years ago that had 2.2.2
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I say look at track record.
Behold->Vibrant-> hercules. It just goes to show, if you want something done, you just have to do it yourself. I mean really, I just rooted lg vortex, from two years ago that had 2.2.2
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2nd this. Same ol from Samsung/T-Mobile. Going HTC prime or iphone next round.
Yes i am quite sure that these phones will not get the support that the unbranded version will get...
A company like Apple has a tough time supporting a couple of devices then just imagine how difficult it is for samsung to provide great support for the 50-60 phones it dishes out every year
No support for Hercules. It's Vibrant/Galaxy S 1 all over again. Each of the carriers releasing a different variant of a phone that was released months ago in Europe. You'd be crazy to buy a Hercules or other SGS2 phone. Just what was the reason for the delay? Carrier customizations, more than likely. And the fact that it took them so long to release the US variants does not speak well for future updates.