About Galaxy S&Galaxy S Wifi - Galaxy S I9000 General

Do these devices (Galaxy S and Galaxy S Wifi) have the same CPU and GPU?
Thank for answering me

No one know?
Tell me please. I really wanna know

We all know, but as no one enlightened you yet...
What we know? We know that you are a lazy moron who:
- is not keen enough to even say WHICH Galaxy WiFi you want to know about (and there is Few of it;
- is too lazy to read, understand and compare each model specification.
For such complicated questions, related with top-secret Samsung technology details, I would like to advice you to ask mum, who will be more than happy to explain to you how to use Google and how to compare hardware specification chart.

spamtrash said:
We all know, but as no one enlightened you yet...
What we know? We know that you are a lazy moron who:
- is not keen enough to even say WHICH Galaxy WiFi you want to know about (and there is Few of it;
- is too lazy to read, understand and compare each model specification.
For such complicated questions, related with top-secret Samsung technology details, I would like to advice you to ask mum, who will be more than happy to explain to you how to use Google and how to compare hardware specification chart.
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Fukk!
I know that Galaxy S use CPU Hummingbird and GPU PowerVR SGX540 but I don't know about Galaxy S Wifi truely.
And I found that Galaxy S Wifi's CPU and GPU are the same as Galaxy S (I can't remember the address)
But I see that my Galaxy S get 55.6FPS with Neocore test.And Galaxy S Wifi get 59.6FPS.
So, why does Galaxy S get 55.6FPS but Galaxy S Wifi which has same CPU and GPU can get more FPS?

FPS cap
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burakgon said:
FPS cap
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Type on youtube's search tab: Samsung Galaxy S Wifi 5.0 Benchmark

youtube.com/watch?v=X2azsANVk5o
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I wanna know too!

notnasty9999 said:
Fukk!
So, why does Galaxy S get 55.6FPS but Galaxy S Wifi which has same CPU and GPU can get more FPS?
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For example:
because of another kernel, loaded apps and widgets.
Once more time: WHICH Galaxy S wiFi? there are 3 models of it already.

spamtrash said:
For example:
because of another kernel, loaded apps and widgets.
Once more time: WHICH Galaxy S wiFi? there are 3 models of it already.
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5"
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OK then, from short comparison Here and here, it seems that CPU/GPU set is same: Exynos 3110.
Hope that this answer will... commit you to use Google by you own
Happy New Year.

For the Galaxy S wifi 4", it is basically a Galaxy S without connectivity features such as GSM radio and GPS
The same goes with the wifi tab 5", but this time without an Amoled screen

So, why does Galaxy Wifi have more FPS than Galaxy S?(Although they have the same CPU and GPU.)

notnasty9999 said:
So, why does Galaxy Wifi have more FPS than Galaxy S?(Although they have the same CPU and GPU.)
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more fps in what?

Software configuration, obviously why.
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MrAndroid12 said:
more fps in what?
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Galaxy Wifi can get 59.6FPS with Neocore test but Galaxy S can get only 55.6.

As answered above, soft config.
First example, on SGS Wifi, there is no dialer resident, as well as whole part responsible for messaging etc.
These modules ARE consuming RAM.
Please remember: SGS was designed as PHONE, while SGS WiFi as player/console.

notnasty9999 said:
Galaxy Wifi can get 59.6FPS with Neocore test but Galaxy S can get only 55.6.
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The Galaxy S 5" Wifi has Super Clear LCD which has a refresh rate of 60Hz, therefore Galaxy S wifi gets around 60fps
Galaxy S i9000 has Super Amoled display which has a refresh rate 56Hz, therefore Galaxy S i9000 gets around 56fps

MrAndroid12 said:
The Galaxy S 5" Wifi has Super Clear LCD which has a refresh rate of 60Hz, therefore Galaxy S wifi gets around 60fps
Galaxy S i9000 has Super Amoled display which has a refresh rate 56Hz, therefore Galaxy S i9000 gets around 56fps
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What about this? 68Hz?
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Quadrant Advanced scores!!!!

samsung galaxy s quadrant advanced scores 1.2 ghz custom rom ext 4 fps uncapped
Total 2014
Cpu. 1691
Mem 1780
I/o. 5359
2d. 359
3d. 1027
samsung galaxy s2 quadrant advanced scores 1.2 ghz stock rom
Total 3381
Cpu. 7046
Mem 3823
I/o. 3929
2d. 888
3d. 1199
Im getting it! Lol
7000 for CPU?!
screenshot or link would be nice
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screenshot or link would be nice
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I think it's this one:
Yep it is:
http://domarmstrong.blogspot.com/2011/04/samsung-galaxy-s-2-benchmark-tests.html
Yeah that's the link. Wait until the devs get a hold of this phone and tweak the I/o speed, uncap the gpu and of the cpu. Imagine the score then. Sanding as redeem themselves from the behold 2 and the gps issues of the original sgs. IT ALSO SCORED A 47 MFLOPS IN LINPACK IN 1.55s. BEASTING.
MikeyMike01 said:
7000 for CPU?!
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Yeah seems rather weak, get over 7500 on a stock tegra 2.
KingKuba13 said:
Yeah seems rather weak, get over 7500 on a stock tegra 2.
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Try comparing GLBenchmark scores
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golf2vr6 said:
I think it's this one:
Yep it is:
http://domarmstrong.blogspot.com/2011/04/samsung-galaxy-s-2-benchmark-tests.html
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Rotating planets missing textures , there is not suppose to be pale planets and white background. Also reports of several high profile games not working...
I really wish Samsung used Nvidia tegra or PowerVR SGX , those two companys were in GPU business long time they can write proper GPU drivers , mali is peace of crap.
Quadrant standard works ok, and Advanced worked for me after a few runs. Im sure these issues will be fixed in later firmware releases.
Take a look at this if you think Mali is inferior to Tegra.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1060416
Oh and in my experience Quadrant is flawed. Badly.
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rovex said:
Quadrant standard works ok, and Advanced worked for me after a few runs. Im sure these issues will be fixed in later firmware releases.
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Its actually issue with Quadrant. Quadrant advanced and professional editions are stuck at version 1.1.6 which is known to have issues with phones running Gingerbread ROMs like SGS2.
So those scores are flawed.
Standard edition has been upgraded to version 1.1.7 which works without these issues with gingerbread. Ironically those who paid are left in ditch at the moment with lack of update
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lol quadrant
Makes sense. Its probably why Advanced gives me consistently 5 to 10% lower scores. The textures do seem unstable, sometimes they work, sometimes not.
MaBlo said:
Take a look at this if you think Mali is inferior to Tegra.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1060416
Oh and in my experience Quadrant is flawed. Badly.
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Checkout Smartbench 2011 Gaming.....
All these benchmarks should be take with a grain of salt.
Anyone have a SG s2 with tegra 2 tested yet?
With 2.3 and less pixels to push should have interesting results.
KingKuba13 said:
Checkout Smartbench 2011 Gaming.....
All these benchmarks should be take with a grain of salt.
Anyone have a SG s2 with tegra 2 tested yet?
With 2.3 and less pixels to push should have interesting results.
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i wonder if samsung is going to cap the frame rate on the tegra 2 version of the phone?

Samsung Galaxy S vs SL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpZ9RRNiohE&feature=channel_video_title
differences between galaxy s and sl
definitely s2 better than s and s is better than SL.
Its a comparison video man, just watch
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpZ9RRNiohE&feature=channel_video_title
differences between galaxy s and sl
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What firmwares do both phones have? And do they have some mods?
falex007 said:
What firmwares do both phones have? And do they have some mods?
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Now Both Phones Have gingerbread updates
there are many Mods for galaxy S I9000 & very little number for Galaxy SL
vivekkalady said:
Now Both Phones Have gingerbread updates
there are many Mods for galaxy S I9000 & very little number for Galaxy SL
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I know this I just asked what fw those phones have. Because I saw that there are too big numbers in the scores. Also It's strange that scores of i9003 is so lesser. I received 1300 points with XXKPE on my phone
both of them have 2.3.4,sl is on xkpe,idk how ppl get 1300 on it,if theres a trick teach me.i got 1363 on the s and 1179 on the sl
falex007 said:
I know this I just asked what fw those phones have. Because I saw that there are too big numbers in the scores. Also It's strange that scores of i9003 is so lesser. I received 1300 points with XXKPE on my phone
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idid get 1300 too but out of four runs with quadrent only initial one got me 1300 points, all other benchmark results hovered around 1150 mark. which is kinda weird as I ran the tests one after another
Wot we lack here is finalise gingerbread, ext4 file partition and overclocking Cpu.
Beside that Gpu wise we always stay inferior to sgs but still not that much .
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Our galaxy sl display is better than amoled. Our super lcd has true colours
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My friend also have a Galaxy S II
but when i compare the colour of screen with mine 1[galaxy sl]
i think mine 1 is look more sharp on words[and is more light]
don't know is it the brightness setting of him phone is dark or something
just now,
i saw that galaxy s plus is come out at my country O.O
Well,now the price is higher than SL a little[around 300~400 MYR]
a lot of effort has been taken to get this video done , so please watch this and comment on youtube,depending on the response im planning a second video with more detailed explanation.
i own both phones and i personally like the display on the sl,but the s is better for games like n.o.v.a 2 and has custom roms,sad part is my bro uses the s(i9000)
now and im left with the sl.
i am using galaxy sl.i got 2271 total score in quadrant advanced rom is XXKPE(even without any fices was getting 1570) now 2271 is with ex4t patched deodexed rooted and with ram script applied.
How do I apply the ram script, even I have deodexed
raj.amalw said:
Our galaxy sl display is better than amoled. Our super lcd has true colours
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I dont think so... i have both phones before. i have sl first and bought S because of the bigger memory. I compare them, and I think S is better in harware specially the AMOLED screen.
Part 2 coming soon
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of course galaxy s better than SL
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Nice
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Galaxy s has a 1Ghz cortex a8 and galaxy sl has a 1Ghz cortex a7 processor
Galaxy s has a 1Ghz cortex a8 and galaxy sl has a 1Ghz cortex a7 processor

[LEAK] samsung galaxy s III GT-I9300

video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzMUmoau778&feature=youtube_gdata_player
This is official. Samsung has left an removal of the engadget article of this phone.
Specs:
quadcore cpu clocked at 1.4gHz
1280x720 amoled plus screen (320 dpi)
16gb internal memory
nfc combatable
2050mAh battery
8mpx camera
mayby microsim
source: androidsuomi.fi
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This indeed looks like a real leak....
interesting!
it is not Galaxy S3: https://twitter.com/#!/BoskiByczyByk/status/193351416037912579
also same pics (way better quality) and MORE of them + video here: http://samsung-updates.com/1727-samsung-galaxy-s3-on-carrier-tests-in-vietnam-videopics/
IWillExplain said:
it is not Galaxy S3: https://twitter.com/#!/BoskiByczyByk/status/193351416037912579
also same pics (way better quality) and MORE of them + video here: http://samsung-updates.com/1727-samsung-galaxy-s3-on-carrier-tests-in-vietnam-videopics/
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but why then did samsung request the removal of endagadget article?
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engadget article is still on
and no company will tolerate any lekas about any devices
anyways this is not the device that is ment to be 'next galaxy'
Putzschwamm said:
This indeed looks like a real leak....
interesting!
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i have seen samsung galaxy s3 in youtube video but the phone doesn't look silm as it was first caught on the first image leak
Guys, afaik this isnt the galaxy s3, I think its the samsung galaxy m. I dont think samsung would bring out a updated galaxy s2 with 2 additional cores and a higher resolution display and name it galaxy s 3.
Nope guys, Mali 400 is nowadays not really modern. If this would be the galaxy s 3 I wouldnt buy this But its the galaxy M and its ok But I'm waiting for galaxy s3, so hopefully there will be some nice specs.
it was sgs3 ... in 16th December 2011
a ****load changed since not to mention the dummy case
and yes baattery was from M
https://twitter.com/#!/BoskiByczyByk/status/193418391107801089
In my opinion, it's definitly the Galaxy M.
I'm pretty sure that the new Galaxy S III is the GT-I9500.
Whatever it is, its ugly as hell.
Sure hope this really isn't the s3.
Hoping for something kind of like the gnexus with all the bells and whistles the gn is missing (more mpx, sd card, removable battery, none pentile samoled, etc)
Anyway, i was happier to see the blaze coming out. Proper updated phone within the 4'' range instead this latest trend of huge slabs of plastic, even if it isn't winning any beauty contest...
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Looks pretty ****, not like a flagship phone. I don't think this is the SGS3 at all.
oswade said:
Looks pretty ****, not like a flagship phone. I don't think this is the SGS3 at all.
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it's a 100% fake...
wow i'll buy it when come in italy!!!
Lots and lots of fake leaks been around s3 a long time now.. i think i just wait for official release notes and when its released i read what it got and probably buy it
I mean the thing is that new phones got quite a lot of power to do anything but the real question is how is battery life and how big screen you like.
So far the galaxy S been faithful phone with oc and very damn nice roms so i could get more from it than i imagined. As long as s3 got great battery life and all other things way better than other phones i really am going to buy it
Goldberger said:
Lots and lots of fake leaks been around s3 a long time now.. i think i just wait for official release notes and when its released i read what it got and probably buy it
I mean the thing is that new phones got quite a lot of power to do anything but the real question is how is battery life and how big screen you like.
So far the galaxy S been faithful phone with oc and very damn nice roms so i could get more from it than i imagined. As long as s3 got great battery life and all other things way better than other phones i really am going to buy it
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Same here.. couldn't have said it better
i9300 is very hot
hell yah it does ^
if it looks like this i'd sell both my phones for it.
CaliCal said:
hell yah it does ^
if it looks like this i'd sell both my phones for it.
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though its a rendering , it looks smoking hot
CaliCal said:
hell yah it does ^
if it looks like this i'd sell both my phones for it.
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If this is the real deal (or a rendering of it), I just wish it had buttons that are in a dedicated area below the main part of the screen like the HTC One X.

S4 Specs leak?

An antuntu benchmark for the S4 has leaked it's specs.
Network: GSM/WCDMA/LTE
CPU: Exynos 5410 1.8Ghz
CPU Cores: 4 + 4!!
GPU Model: PowerVR SGX 544 MP
System: OS 4.2
Display:
Screen size: 4.99
Resolution: 1920X1080
Camera:
Front cam: 2.1 mp
Rear: 13 mp
RAM: 2 gb.
Antutu populates that information by hand for the major devices, it cannot be retrieved from the system information.
Without confirmation it means nothing.
Speculation, in the case of them manually putting it on their servers, if it's automatic it's a fake benchmark.
delsus said:
Speculation, in the case of them manually putting it on their servers, if it's automatic it's a fake benchmark.
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as the galaxy s III, the SIV will have two diferent processors.. in america with 4g there will be a snaprdragon...meanwhile in europe the exynos octa *_*
I´m not sure if I´d still buy a S4 since I´m quite happy with my S3
ratchet2012a said:
as the galaxy s III, the SIV will have two diferent processors.. in america with 4g there will be a snaprdragon...meanwhile in europe the exynos octa *_*
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holy crap more than 40000 in antutu
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qualcomm ****edup
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holy crap more than 40000 in antutu
qualcomm ****edup
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.... sometimes you really post some nonsense.
Those numbers are just dividers, the actual score is 24.5k...
AndreiLux said:
.... sometimes you really post some nonsense.
Those numbers are just dividers, the actual score is 24.5k...
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lol i forgot
edit : it about 25k in bar chart which not close to tegra 4 at all if they're real
Facepalm, upon facepalm, upon facepalm. I'll go ahead and cite what the great Codeworkx has in his signature. A very inspiring line of text, actually.
Codeworkx said:
DON'T TRUST ANY BENCHMARK UNLESS YOU FAKED IT BY YOURSELF!
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Some people also don't seem to really grasp that it's possible, with a few smaller edits, to make a device display as another device. Is it really that hard to just wait until the darn presentation of the device (March 14th, I think it was) before getting hyped about possibly faked specifications?
Theshawty said:
Facepalm, upon facepalm, upon facepalm. I'll go ahead and cite what the great Codeworkx has in his signature. A very inspiring line of text, actually.
Some people also don't seem to really grasp that it's possible, with a few smaller edits, to make a device display as another device. Is it really that hard to just wait until the darn presentation of the device (March 14th, I think it was) before getting hyped about possibly faked specifications?
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as i know u can't fake CPU - GPU - screen res in Antutu : ( until u hack their servers or the app or maybe they fake it) who knows
Omg omg omg look what I got my hands on!!!
ratchet2012a said:
as the galaxy s III, the SIV will have two diferent processors.. in america with 4g there will be a snaprdragon...meanwhile in europe the exynos octa *_*
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Yeah but apparently there's supposed to be a problem with the exynos octa overheating
So we'll just have to wait and see
stupidly will be met by sarcasm
ratchet2012a said:
as the galaxy s III, the SIV will have two diferent processors.. in america with 4g there will be a snaprdragon...meanwhile in europe the exynos octa *_*
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This was speculation by a major analyst. It isn't fact, it's just an educated guess at this point.
It could be official.
AFAIK, I don't believe benchmark scores in antuntu.
If you put trust into those scores, you could say that dancing around in your garden naked for 5 minutes increases your device's performance.
Well but the specs do look somewhat similiar to what we heard.
Wasn't the rumour of 13 mp, 2gb ram and 8 cores going around?
And here's proof:
I saw an article up on DroidViews as well about this. He was decent enough to upload a photo.
Whats this obsession with posting S4 things in a s3 forum?
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masterex567 said:
It could be official.
AFAIK, I don't believe benchmark scores in antuntu.
If you put trust into those scores, you could say that dancing around in your garden naked for 5 minutes increases your device's performance.
Well but the specs do look somewhat similiar to what we heard.
Wasn't the rumour of 13 mp, 2gb ram and 8 cores going around?
And here's proof:
I saw an article up on DroidViews as well about this. He was decent enough to upload a photo.
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Except antutu doesn't recognise the GT-I9500 as the S4 yet.
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Except antutu doesn't recognise the GT-I9500 as the S4 yet.
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Yeah its missing a bit of authenticity
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DSA said:
Whats this obsession with posting S4 things in a s3 forum?
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No idea.
I've seen people posting s4 things here,
When s3 was releasing the s2 forums were filled with s3 leaks etc.
When s2 was releasing the s forums were filled with s2 leaks.
Looks like a chain cycle.
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No idea.
I've seen people posting s4 things here,
When s3 was releasing the s2 forums were filled with s3 leaks etc.
When s2 was releasing the s forums were filled with s2 leaks.
Looks like a chain cycle.
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Always has been, always will be
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Please continue the discussion here.

Samsung live event now!

legion1911 said:
LIVE, right Now... presentation of S 4
http://www.samsung.com/th/samsungunpacked/
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For those that missed the live show, here is the RECORDING:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yaw6CSaPnfk
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http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/5622/99973566.jpg
http://img837.imageshack.us/img837/9228/specss.jpg
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Disappointment is all I have to say....
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True bro, sooo true
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Possible to get some of these functions ported over to Note 2?
The camera and camera software looks like the biggest enhancement, no mention of cpu or gpu tho.
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madpete said:
The camera and camera software looks like the biggest enhancement, no mention of cpu or gpu tho.
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It's either a 1.9Ghz snapdragon 600 or a 1.6 Ghz exynos 5 octa depending on the region ( it is confirmed). The Galaxy S IV is definitely not worth "upgrading" if you're coming from a note 2. But if you're like me phoneless then it is a great choice!
The S4 is a 'nice' upgrade from the S3, mostly on the software side. Hardware is a modest upgrade. But I would not consider upgrading from my N2 to a S4. N3...we shall see...
Think the LCD touch got great improvement with air touch and even with gloves.Nice for winter
Are any of those features come ti note 2? Camera is better but cpu update is pointless for me now. I really don't game that much and note 2 feels super smooth. Half of those apps could and should come to note 2. Any infos?
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What I like:
- Their presentation (Finally something different, not just a guy standing on the stage blabbing about new features. Also stream was good quality and stable)
- New CPU (Although difference would really be only in games - S3/N2 is already incredible smooth. Also I'm not sure about battery usage of the chip. Must be incredibly high with all cores online)
- Air touch (mostly for interacting with mouseover elements on web pages like drop down menus, don't care much about gestures. Still I can pull out S pen on N2 if I find that page, which are thankfully rare nowadays)
- Glove thingy (does it work with thick ski gloves or just thin ones?)
- Smart pause (although it most likely does not work with 3rd party players which makes it useless for me. Maybe xda will step in? (somehow link it to simulating physical pause button))
- Temperature sensor (barometer on N2 is not really useful, at least there are no useful apps for it except for just displaying sensor data. But temperature could be somewhat useful)
What I don't care about:
- Most of the software improvements (mostly gimmicks - things nice to have and show around, but not really that useful.).
What I don't like:
- Pentile screen
So unless you have spare 600 dollars laying around, I don't think its really worth upgrading from either S3 or N2. We have reached point (or we are very near reaching it) where interface on phones is completely smooth and lags are mostly caused by badly written apps or apps waiting for resources (NAND, Internet etc.), so speeding up CPU will not do much, except for games. And things that could make use of that power (voice recognition etc.) are being moved to the cloud.
legion1911 said:
LIVE, right Now... presentation of S 4
http://www.samsung.com/th/samsungunpacked/
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For those that missed the live show, here is the RECORDING:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yaw6CSaPnfk
http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/5622/99973566.jpg
http://img837.imageshack.us/img837/9228/specss.jpg
matejdro said:
What I don't like:
- Pentile screen
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Pentile again??? pfffff.......... can't wait to se a macro shot of the secreen next to a 5" 1080 non-pentile from the "competitors" . I'm really curious to see if it would suffer from the lower percieved resulution "issue" on such high PPI count. Personnaly i don't find either the s3 or the non pentile N2 to have a sharp screen... hopefully the N3 will come out full hd with RGB.
P.S not a fan of the octa... those 4 low powered cores running the UI might and most surely will cause small stutters, i've already seen some hick-ups on a "hands on" video from the conference, but those phones weren't running the final release software soo... fingers crossed..looks like the days IOS is crushed in smoothness are still to come.....

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