[Q] Droid X and Chainfire 3D - Droid X General

Quick Question: I saw some similar questions posted but something about the Droid X not keeping root to run Chainfire 3D. Did not answer my question, N/A.
My phone is a Droid X, Gingerbread, Android 2.3.3, fully rooted with Linux One Click. I am trying to play Dead Space for Android and it just does not work. Black screen, checking for updates, faint EA logo, then back to desktop.
I asked if anybody had Dead Space running on a Droid X in another forum and one fellow said, yes, it works fine if you install the free, market Chainfire 3D driver and use the Qualcomm plugin. I did all this and the phone behaves exactly the same. He also recommended using 16 bit color and reduced texture size. No difference. I find this rather odd, I can see no difference in the phone or any game with or without the Chainfire 3D driver. I do not know how the driver loads, I looked into Terminal and used lsmod to read what modules the kernel is loading and I see nothing relevant to graphics loading. Very few modules were loaded. I used the CF Bench tool to test if the driver is really running but I cannot tell, I got a low score, 2415, above the HTC Hero, Samsung Galaxy topping the comparison chart with 6442. This is not telling me what I want to know.
Does Chainfire 3D work on a rooted Droid X 2.3.3? How can you tell? Is Dead Space ever going to run on this phone or am I chasing mermaids?
Thanks.

I got it to run "Sprinkle" (before a single core version was released) with the Nvidia Plugin...
Never really tried any other game.
So it must work, as Chainfire was the ONLY reason it would load.
I was also on a 2nd-init rom though...which may have some impact?

Jubakuba said:
I got it to run "Sprinkle" (before a single core version was released) with the Nvidia Plugin...
Never really tried any other game.
So it must work, as Chainfire was the ONLY reason it would load.
I was also on a 2nd-init rom though...which may have some impact?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks. Not sure what Sprinkle is but you proved the driver is somewhat effective, though. I too thought the nvidia plugin would be best as I run all of my PC games on nvidia, even Linux. Wow, Descent ran really, really good on Linux. Too bad I cannot get this DX to do what I want, but I guess this phone, as cool as it really is, is getting a bit long in the tooth. Time to start shopping.
I have not done any ROM'ing yet. I got one click Linux to root my OTA Gingerbread and I thought that was pretty cool, I do not want to break it but if a new ROM could bring some life into this old phone, I would do it. Thoughts? Any of you ROM your Droid X phones to gain significant advantages over stock? I do not want to do it "just to be different" as the phone layout is pretty good, but if a ROM could change the desktop into something really cool, that actually worked (Not like Gnome 2/Compiz) then it would be worth it.

MIUI is super nice.
You do, however, miss out on 720p and HDMI.
But that's all.
And (drama broke out recently, so details are sketchy) there may (probably not) be a public release of a fix that fixes 720p and HDMI on the horizon.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1374281

Hey, thanks for the ROM update and the good links! I went to review the ROM here and I think this is pretty advanced for a DX, but good.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5DNx-6O-SE
The MIUI MOD is nice, but I am not "Anti-Verizon" and "Anti-Motorola". I just don't like VZ Navigator, a pay app, running all the time and I cannot remove it. Same for some of the other stuff. There were some good themes too, MIUI does not have an app drawer, ouch. And stuff is broken. I am not ready to go beta on anything yet for something so essential as a cell phone. It is also kind of "Macintosh". But great links and education, thnx.

Ohmster said:
Hey, thanks for the ROM update and the good links! I went to review the ROM here and I think this is pretty advanced for a DX, but good.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5DNx-6O-SE
The MIUI MOD is nice, but I am not "Anti-Verizon" and "Anti-Motorola". I just don't like VZ Navigator, a pay app, running all the time and I cannot remove it. Same for some of the other stuff. There were some good themes too, MIUI does not have an app drawer, ouch. And stuff is broken. I am not ready to go beta on anything yet for something so essential as a cell phone. It is also kind of "Macintosh". But great links and education, thnx.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You could try liberty 3 2.0 I have been running it and love it, it has only the blur elements you want, and unlike cm7 or miui you don't have to give up HD camera or HDMI functionality, if that's a deal breaker for you
sent from my Droid X running Liberty 3

hootowlserenade said:
You could try liberty 3 2.0 I have been running it and love it, it has only the blur elements you want, and unlike cm7 or miui you don't have to give up HD camera or HDMI functionality, if that's a deal breaker for you
sent from my Droid X running Liberty 3
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I did not look into Liberty yet, but I will. I have Android 2.2.2 and they are now at 2.2.3, so, I am falling behind. I cannot OTA anymore or there goes root. Yeah, I will look into Liberty. It was on the ROM page. Thanks again.
I really need to keep this thread on topic, although the advice and ROM information is much appreciated dudes.
ANY 3D GAMERS OUT THERE WITH A DROID X? HOW DID YOU GET A GOOD 3D GAME TO RUN ON A DROID X? Chainfire? nvidia? What games? Dead Space? Anyone?

Close topic please
Moderator, could you please close this discussion? It is old and has outlived it's usefulness. I no longer have the Droid X but now have a Droix Razr Maxx, XT912. I never got really good 3D performance with the Droid X except for Toon Wars. The graphics in that game led me to believe that the unit could do better 3D gaming. But the internal video chip is not very powerful and not even Chainfire can help with that.
Bottom Line:
If you want or need better gaming or 3D video performance, get a newer and better phone like the Samsung Galaxy or anything like that. The Droid X is one very cool phone but a gaming workhouse it is not. Topic closed. OP no longer subscribing to threads.

Related

Incredible user

So can I get some info on the X because I currently own an Incredible but have about a week now to switch. How do the two phones compare? Exactly how much can I do to the X? Currently my Incredible is rooted and using custom ROM and theme.
Thanks for the help in advance.
(Oh and is it true you can get rid of the UI on the X? I have a friend claiming he did)
CHPunk said:
So can I get some info on the X because I currently own an Incredible but have about a week now to switch. How do the two phones compare? Exactly how much can I do to the X? Currently my Incredible is rooted and using custom ROM and theme.
Thanks for the help in advance.
(Oh and is it true you can get rid of the UI on the X? I have a friend claiming he did)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
you can get rid of about 95% of the blur, some has to stay but its being worked on, custom roms are just starting to roll out. However the kernel is locked so no major tampering with the cpu yet.
I had the inc for about a week or two, X is a big upgrade. I wouldnt switch back.
The Droid X wins in every category you can think of but UI(senses). Custom roms/themes are being worked on, and since we rooted and have deodex'd we are fastly moving foward....
So you guys think I should switch? And would you say it's easier or harder to root than the Inc?
Sorry for all the questions, I just want to make sure I have the best phone possible for the next 18 months lol.
Droid X is easy to root on 2.1 just use Universal Androot Beta 1.6.2(Link is clickable) for easy installation of apk for phone for a 1-click root solution. but if you want root on 2.2 require a bit more work but its still easy.
Well looks like you convinced me to get the Droid X!
CHPunk said:
Well looks like you convinced me to get the Droid X!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
if you have any problems, visit Droid X Wiki
dr154 said:
if you have any problems, visit Droid X Wiki
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That's how you get the wiki out there!! LOL
But I came from the INC and I can basically do EVERYTHING that I coulddo with the INC on the X... except kernal modding.. obviously.
MrDanger said:
That's how you get the wiki out there!! LOL
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You know it MrDanger...
only issue you may have, well 2. When taking pics you will think they are horrible when looking at them on the phone, but when you look at them on a comp they are better than the inc. Just something i noticed when switching. And if you frequently use the speaker, (music or voice) the volume is stupid low...
Just thought i would give you a heads up on the only things i have noticed.
Thanks for the help guys, only problem is after going to verizon today I kind of want the Fascinate
I suppose the screen is a big plus, but I hear it feels cheap when compared to the build quality of the X.... not that I beat my phone up on purpose...
I have both (got my X today). Sense and it's quirks are vastly superior to Blur, but I won't keep a phone stock if I can find a real vanilla build. I do miss things like having a dialer that doesn't suck and some of the skins for sense. I could use Sense builds, but I can tell there is no way I'll want to use any of the Blur crap (except DNLA, which looks neat).
The device itself the X wins hands down. The look and feel of the actual device is just.. better. It's faster overall (I get quad scores about as fast as my SkyRaider build without OC) and the screen looks great and it doesn't ever lag for me. The downside is that it's huge and I don't use a case. One slap in the junk with this thing from my pocket when I was trotting down some steps had me thinking twice.
But the INC has lots of customizations and badass devs (SkyRaider/Cyanogen/Virt/Redemption and now Ruby), and I'm kind of just checking out how active it is over here to see how much support it will get. I know the Ruby guys just got an X so that would satisfy me pretty well and they seem to have 2 or 3 devs that seem dedicated.
In a few weeks/months I think the X will have some good things coming. Once they do, I will like the phone more than the INC.
Just remember the Fascinate does not have a LED notifier but there are some hacks around. There is no HDMI out either. I have to admit the screen colors are amazing as well as the form factor, but it almost feels cheap. I love the screen size on the DX, its fast, ruins cool and the developers are flocking to the device since Koush made the Bootstrap recovery. Some of the developers already are, Pete(BB), Koush, ChevyNo1, Birdman, P3, cvpcs(Sapphire), the guys behind Rubix, JRummy was talking recently about getting one and I am sure I missed a few. I would also like to see the UnRevoked team get their hands on a DX to work their bootloader magic.
New Roms on their way are FlyX 1.0 and Obsidian(cvpcs) said he only needs a week from delivery of his X for release which means it could be by next weekend.
Sent from my DROIDX
I'm in the same boat as the OP. I have the incredible for a few weeks now, a few days left in my 30 day window (like 4 haha). I like the device, but the battery life irks me (which is kind've silly since I'm not a heavy user and have had no issues making it through a day with the stock battery. still, I'd like a device that I can use without watching the percentage drop in a few minutes). My two brothers got the X, I went with the incredible as (mostly) I was impatient and liked the hackability it has. Having actually used the device, the ability to load custom roms is nice and all, but using a stock rom isn't really much of a difference for my use. Of concern to me is primarily dumping the Verizon trash but as long as the phone's rootable it's doable. I use Skyraider vanilla but I don't have any real reason that I couldn't use a stock rom.
I've spent many hours trying to come to a conclusion and I've not gotten anything conclusive from online posts and such, everyone seems to get caught up in the 'omg its sooooo big', followed quickly by their gripes with the 'blur-but-not-blur' implementation. I use LauncherPro anyways so much of Blur's issues are not a concern. My only reasonable complaint is the hardware buttons on the X's face vs the touch ones on the incredible, but this is minor imo.
I hate having to babysit my phone to get the best of the battery and the bump charging stuff rubs me the wrong way. I'm coming from an iphone 3g and the widget capabilities are so great, but to save battery on my incredible I have only one auto updating widget, despite desiring more. Separate concern is how Verizon would handle the return since I'm near to my 30 days and the X wouldn't ship for a handful of days, and returning the incredible before that time would render me without a phone. I'm probably going to call them tomorrow and see what they'll do. Perhaps I can get the phone and see how it fares in my normal usage patterns.
If anyone has any input I would much appreciate it as I need something to push me over the edge. Granted, this is the X forum so I doubt anyone will give the incredible much love.

Is the Samsung Fascinate a good choice?

I'm due for an upgrade on Nov. 18th, and wanted to know the goods and bads of this phone from my fellow XDA Community. Basically, I want to know:
1. Will the lagfix potentially fix any "lag" on the phone beforehand?
2. Is the GPS as bad as people say it is?
3. Is Screen Burn in a problem with the Super Amoled Screen?
4. Is the Camera and Camcorder any good?
I'm coming from a Droid Eris and want to get the best phone out there that can last me for a year.
Ok my personal opinion:
Camera is great!!!
Video Recording is great
Screen Is great!!!
GPS is quirky (might be fixed with 2.2 update)
Touchwiz is boring , slow etc
Great design!
But i got rid of mine, in hopes that the htc desire hd is being released this month on verizon! The new Sense UI is awesome .......my opinion others love stock android ui!
Just saw your coming from a HTC Eris..........then honestly if you like the Sense UI, dont get this!
Goodluck!
I came from an Eris too and I love this! (I got rid of the Sense UI on my Eris with a custom ROM) Personally I don't have any problem with lag even without a lagfix, my GPS works just fine, and call quality is great. It is a big improvement from the Eris, the battery life is definitely better, and I really have nothing bad to say about it. The only thing I miss is the LED notification but there are ways around that. The camera and camcorder work great - excellent picture quality, and no screen burn in that I have seen so far anyway.
Sent from my SCH-I500 using XDA App
Wtf does HTC sense have to do with the Samsung phone. I never flame but that is dumb as hell to say. Touchwiz and sense are not even close. Besides. Put LP on there and forget it. People only slam it when its not their cup of tea. I have literally had every phone Verizon has release since the Droid 1 and I ****ing love my fascinate. The new HTC will likely be a ***** to root much like the others. And Verizon WILL NOT GET DESIRE HD. it will likely be the exact same phone but not called that. But in Sherwood's defense ill say that's one hella good looking phone. But I am gonna keep my fascinate til LTE and by the. That HTC will be shot BC it wont have LTE. if u want to be impressed read about how much better fascinate screen and CPU /GPU Are than any other phone. If u like to game the Samsung galaxy phones are the absolutely best made for that
Sent from my SCH-I500 using XDA App
Untrue statement about Sense UI being better than Touchwiz. I have had the eris, incredible and now the facinate and touchwiz is just fine. Load ADW as your launcher and you will really dig this phone over the eris for sure.
IMO... GPS is not that big of an issue for me as there are some work arounds to get satellites to lock quicker and if I do get burn in on my screen I will have it replaced.With the 2.2 update just around the corner it should help make this a more solid phone. (Especially after the developers get a hold of it!) If your ok with the size of the incredible, there isn't a better phone made but it lacks a good car dock/mount and the best case ever made, "kickstand case". My incredible did have a little better cell signal also... Having said that, good luck. The facinate will be a huge upgrade from the eris. And as stated before, this is all (IMO) with experience with all three.
Sent from my SCH-I500 using XDA App
Depending on your screen size preferences and the reviews you might want to take a look at the Samsung Continuum when it comes out - should be before your upgrade date. If you must have a notification when things happen then the ticker seems to be a great idea. We have yet to see how it affects battery life though.
1. Yes. Also depends on your level of annoyance to the lag.
2. No.
3. None evident at all, after a month and a half.
4. Yes. I have always loved the sammy panorama feature.
No regrets at all.
good day.
Coming from a moto droid this phone is great!
Camera and camcorder are great
gps is iffy at time but works prob get fixed
I like touchwiz and find it not laggy at all in fact its one of the only launchers that dont lag when used with lwp. I mean launcher pro does not lag alot but u can see it in the app drawer alittle touchwiz app drawer has zero lag.
I dont use lagfix (uninstalled) i see no need for it actually i think just running the stock deodexed rom makes for a super smooth experiance.
Problem is, I'm deciding between a Samsung Fascinate with AWESOME hardware (love that GPU) and a Droid X with 2. 2. It's hard!
Sent from Eris with Froyo
Go to a corporate store and play with both of them - I briefly considered the Droid X but when I tried it out in the store, it just seemed slow and somehow cumbersome and not just from the size - even stock the Fascinate was smoother to me.
Sent from my SCH-I500 using XDA App
If you liked the ERIS......... stay with SENSE UI. Its hard to give it up. I regret it!!!
As far as Games , if you want a gaming phone WAIT TILL THERE ARE QUALITY GAMES. And not 1 year old IPHONE PORTS.
Wait a little longer trust me.
BTW I had the droid X the camera was complete garbage!!! And I prefer capacative buttons at the bottom and not tactile ones like the x.
But again stay with sense. You get alot of built in options stock instead of 3rd party addons to get same options. Like copy and paste, and scrollable widgets.
Goodluck!!
I'll just have to wait and see.
TheSonicEmerald said:
1. Will the lagfix potentially fix any "lag" on the phone beforehand?
2. Is the GPS as bad as people say it is?
3. Is Screen Burn in a problem with the Super Amoled Screen?
4. Is the Camera and Camcorder any good?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
1. I don't notice any lag for normal use. It only really lags on me when installing things from the Market, but I'm guessing this is a general issue with Android
2. GPS lock can take 10-20 sec, but isn't that bad. I've found that always leaving GPS on as opposed to turning it off/on as needed helps keep the lag from being as bad.
3. Haven't noticed any burn in on my phone
4. I haven't taken many pictures yet, but the one's I have taken have been good for a phone camera
I'd say go to a store and play with both devices. After using the capacitive buttons on the Fascinate for a couple weeks now, the physical buttons of the Droid X seemed annoying when I played around with one a few days ago. Also, if you're waiting until the 18th, FroYo should be out not long after that, and that is when I'd expect a lot of development to start up for ROMs and kernels, so the software should hopefully catch up to the great hardware in a couple months.
Droid X VS Fascinate
I just picked up the Fascinate a few days ago after returning the X. I had the X for three weeks. I agree with the poster that noted how BAD the X camera is. So far with the sammy I have not had any issues lag,GPS or otherwise. I had a Tmo Vibrant and loved it. My only complaint about the fascinate is the lack of 2.2. Other than that I think its the perfect size and weight. I currently carry and iPhone 4 and the Fascinate. I dont think I have taken the iPhone out of my laptop bag since I got the Samsung.
you should wait and see if the nexus two comes to vzw
Chuban7 said:
you should wait and see if the nexus two comes to vzw
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No, you shouldn't. Right now the Nexus Two is a mythical device that does not exist. Even if Google does decide to make one, it won't be out anytime soon, and there's a good chance it wouldn't be on Verizon first, if at all.
I came from an Eris myself, and had no problem dumping Sense UI. In fact, the last month I had it, I was running the KaosFroyo ROM, which is based on stock Froyo. Once I installed LauncherPro Plus, Dialer One, and a few other goodies, I realized that it was even better than when it ran Sense UI. If I were you, I would grab the Fascinate over the Droid X, because te hardware is superior, and Froyo will be out for it soon enough. Bing is a non-issue, since it can easily be removed by rooting, if you don't like it.
Sent from my SCH-I500 using XDA App

Review/Warning

I just bought an Atrix, and I thought I would post a little review because in all my research before I bought the phone, I did not find one which said what I needed to hear. Hopefully this is useful and objective.
I have owned a OG Droid, Samsung Fascinate, Nexus S, Galaxy S, and this Atrix so I feel like I have good grounds for comparison.
Out of the box...
The Good: The phone's hardware is top notch. The specs are awesome.
The Bad: The Motorola Atrix in completly stock form (the one I bought anyways) is very buggy and laggy. When I first unboxed it and was doing my initial set up and installing a few apps, a number of different programs forced close. The whole experience was slow and frustrating. I would rate Moto Blur as simply horrible and disgusting.
The fact that Motorola was able to take a tegra 2 powered phone with 1GB of DDR2 ram and make it run choppy is beyond me.
With that being said... If you don't know how to or do not plan on rooting, or modifying the software on your phone, I would highly recommended you avoid the Atrix.
If you are a fan of tinkering and modifying, then the Atrix is a great choice.
I have only noticed lag for the first 15-30 seconds after power on. None after that...
Motoblur means nothing to me, and doesn't really seem to slow down my phone. I had lunch with a bunch of other android users, and they were all impressed by the atrix' snappiness...
One thing I remembered when I had the atrix was unlocking the phone and using it was extremely laggy and slow for the first few seconds. I confirmed this with 2 other store demos. If you swipe your finger or do the pattern unlock, try bringing down the notification bar immediately. It'll be slow and choppy but if you wait a couple seconds and then try again, it'll be fine. Always annoyed me at how LONG it took to unlock the phone and get it going compared to every other android phone I've owned.
I have had no issues with performance at all on my device. It's lightning quick. The most impressive for me wasn't the CPU speed, but the file access speed. That thing installs, uninstalls, and loads applications retarded fast. They made a good choice of hardware right there.
SpeeDemon said:
I have had no issues with performance at all on my device. It's lightning quick. The most impressive for me wasn't the CPU speed, but the file access speed. That thing installs, uninstalls, and loads applications retarded fast. They made a good choice of hardware right there.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
DDR2 ram win.
Sent from my MB860 using Tapatalk
The only lag I've noticed is for a few seconds after the initial boot up, which is understandable. To say it is very laggy and buggy is crazy. Perhaps the unit you had was defective.
Sent from my MB860 using XDA App
Sounds like you may have a buggy device... Ive had three of them so far (one was replaced due to what I perceived to be a faulty battery and my wife also uses one). And I've not seen any of the lag you're talking about...
If it was a big enough occurance don't you think you would've read about it on these forums? This place is packed with android super users... no ones having problems like that ...
Sent from my MB860 using XDA App
plvaulter06 said:
If you are a fan of tinkering and modifying, then the Atrix is a great choice.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
the atrix is a horrible choice if you like to tinker and modify your phone...
dinan said:
One thing I remembered when I had the atrix was unlocking the phone and using it was extremely laggy and slow for the first few seconds. I confirmed this with 2 other store demos. If you swipe your finger or do the pattern unlock, try bringing down the notification bar immediately. It'll be slow and choppy but if you wait a couple seconds and then try again, it'll be fine. Always annoyed me at how LONG it took to unlock the phone and get it going compared to every other android phone I've owned.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
.... the fingerprint scanner makes it real quick to unlock the phone.... and it's not easy enough to be accidentally pocket-unlocked like some other unlocking systems i've seen.... such as i think HTC's, where you just slide the one thing down. Hell, with the one pair of shorts i have, i was actually able to see the screen on my iPhone 4 when i had it, and unlock it THROUGH THE SHORTS if i wanted to.
And i think it'd be expected for things to be going a tad slow as soon as it's woken up. Look at computers. Whether it's booting... sleeping... hibernating.... if you expect to be able to do something without any form of lag the second either of those are recovered from, you'd be sorely mistaken.
neotekz said:
the atrix is a horrible choice if you like to tinker and modify your phone...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sounds like a great comment from a non-Atrix user? Maybe I'm wrong though?
The Atrix is fine for people who like to tinker. The only thing we can't do is overclock our processors and change ROMs every 3 seconds. Other than that I have free tethering, no ads, root, no bloatware, free webtop thanks to a hack and a pseudo-ROM/theme loaded. Yeah too bad I can't tinker with it. *eyes rolling*
Mustang302LX said:
Sounds like a great comment from a non-Atrix user? Maybe I'm wrong though?
The Atrix is fine for people who like to tinker. The only thing we can't do is overclock our processors and change ROMs every 3 seconds. Other than that I have free tethering, no ads, root, no bloatware, free webtop thanks to a hack and a pseudo-ROM/theme loaded. Yeah too bad I can't tinker with it. *eyes rolling*
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
NICE!!!!!! glad someone finally said something... I mean sure u can't load cyanogen but with the way things are going with these "pseudo" roms if cyanogen put some effort into making one of those for the atrix would that not be a sufficient fix??? Because lets face it doubt the BL will be unlocked soo instead of putting all that effort I to unlocking it how about taking g advantage of the capabilities that we do have.... ???? Just sayen
robwscott83 said:
NICE!!!!!! glad someone finally said something... I mean sure u can't load cyanogen but with the way things are going with these "pseudo" roms if cyanogen put some effort into making one of those for the atrix would that not be a sufficient fix??? Because lets face it doubt the BL will be unlocked soo instead of putting all that effort I to unlocking it how about taking g advantage of the capabilities that we do have.... ???? Just sayen
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Haha didn't really mean to come off as a jerk but I'm just sick of reading people's posts in the ATRIX forum hating on the phone. If it's not the phone for you so what go to the forum of the device you like!
I hope to also see some cool themes/pseudo-ROMs made available. At least we have Ken right now working his butt off on GingerBlur!
Mustang302LX said:
Haha didn't really mean to come off as a jerk but I'm just sick of reading people's posts in the ATRIX forum hating on the phone. If it's not the phone for you so what go to the forum of the device you like!
I hope to also see some cool themes/pseudo-ROMs made available. At least we have Ken right now working his butt off on GingerBlur!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
yes he difinitley is i was following that thread for a bit but i saw that with the latest release i believe it was beta7 (at the time) webtop for th laptop dock was disabled and i have the LTD so that is a feature that i definitely need... do you know if its a RC yet???
Mustang302LX said:
Sounds like a great comment from a non-Atrix user? Maybe I'm wrong though?
The Atrix is fine for people who like to tinker. The only thing we can't do is overclock our processors and change ROMs every 3 seconds. Other than that I have free tethering, no ads, root, no bloatware, free webtop thanks to a hack and a pseudo-ROM/theme loaded. Yeah too bad I can't tinker with it. *eyes rolling*
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
i have an atrix, i guess we just have different opinions on tinkering...i do like the change roms often and be able to upgrade to the newest android version without having to wait for the manufacture. theres so much more you can do when you open up the kernel, most of the bugs that people are having would be solved if the devs can get at the kernel. Why do you think developers are leaving the Atrix? there's only so much you can do with a locked bootloader. i never said i hated the phone(i wouldnt of bought it if i did) i just dont think it's a good phone for modding but hopefully that will change...
SpeeDemon said:
I have had no issues with performance at all on my device. It's lightning quick. The most impressive for me wasn't the CPU speed, but the file access speed. That thing installs, uninstalls, and loads applications retarded fast. They made a good choice of hardware right there.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
same with mine.. the ATT version of the Atrix must be loaded with crapware making the phone slow down. My Bell version flies right out of the box, even when using Motoblur!
SpeeDemon said:
I have had no issues with performance at all on my device. It's lightning quick. The most impressive for me wasn't the CPU speed, but the file access speed. That thing installs, uninstalls, and loads applications retarded fast. They made a good choice of hardware right there.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
+1 I agree, Atrix = speed I've rarely felt lags if any at all
Sent from my bell Atrix using XDA App
robwscott83 said:
yes he difinitley is i was following that thread for a bit but i saw that with the latest release i believe it was beta7 (at the time) webtop for th laptop dock was disabled and i have the LTD so that is a feature that i definitely need... do you know if its a RC yet???
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It's still in Beta at 7.2 now. However I believe the webtop that was removed in the previous version was the hack to make it work with just an HDMI cable so you don't need the dock to make it work. I am on 7.2 and I have the webtop hack installed and it works perfect on my TV through just the HDMI cable.
I am really enjoying the ATRIX. I was starting to get a little burnt out on installing new ROMS every couple days or weeks. This is however my first Android phone...coming from the WinMo forums...This phone is like night and day compared to my old Tilt 2.
People have such harsh and strong opinions on everything on forums. These 'reviews' should be read as objectively as possible.
starvinmrvn said:
I am really enjoying the ATRIX. I was starting to get a little burnt out on installing new ROMS every couple days or weeks. This is however my first Android phone...coming from the WinMo forums...This phone is like night and day compared to my old Tilt 2.
People have such harsh and strong opinions on everything on forums. These 'reviews' should be read as objectively as possible.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Welcome Brother I'm in the same boat =P tilt 2 to atrix is an amazingly wonderful jump ~!
I came from a captivate where roms are readily available. I enjoyed flashing and it was awesome to see how a device can mature. But the kernel development is where things truly shine. But even after all the flashing I just felt like things didn't quite work right. I thought it was the fact that 99% of the roms were based off the international galaxy s.
I love my atrix. Everything works. The battery life is awesome. The phone really flies. Motoblur sucks but its been taken care of. As long as we get more roms ill be happy. Unlocked bootloader would be nice but I don't see it happening
Sent from my MB860 using XDA App

Thinking about starting a Fire

I'm thinking about getting a Kindle Fire. I really don't know what I'd quite do with a tablet, but I imagine I could find some uses for it. I don't really read books very often, so I wouldn't use the Fire as an e-reader.
The main thing I think I'd use it for is web browsing and IRC, and thus begs one my main questions: how is browsing on a 1024x600 display? Is it able to display full websites well?
Next, I don't really like the default Fire UI. It seems like too much of a novelty. How easy is it to root the tablet and install a custom ROM? How stable are any of the ICS ROMs right now?
Last, I just don't know if I really need it. If I do get a Fire, I'd get it at Walmart. With their $50 gift card offer and my 10% associate discount, I figure I can grab one for about ~$130. At that price point, it seems like too good of a deal to pass up, but I don't know if I should just save my money on something else or just bite the bullet and buy one. I'm still kicking myself on not jumping on the $99 TouchPad deal last year. LOL.
Thanks.
I bought my KF for 200$ a week ago & Im still amazed with what this thing can put up. You should have no problem browsing webs or playing games at all, & I even love the default browser better than dolphin or opera xD (really love the side-touch menu )
And the stable roms would be those CM7 with ICS theme, rooting can be a bit hard at first but after 2 days you should get everything on the track
After buying this, I thought to myself how fool I was to pay 700$ for my old japanese 3d smartphone
I use my KF to read and web browsing and it's perfect for it. I'm using a Ics rom and is almost perfect. It has just few bugs, nothing important, at least for me.
The root is really easy, just use the KFU, you can find it in the developer thread.
For me was a great purchase, I highly recommend it.
beanboy89 said:
Next, I don't really like the default Fire UI. It seems like too much of a novelty. How easy is it to root the tablet and install a custom ROM? How stable are any of the ICS ROMs right now?
Thanks.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Short of rooting and installing a new ROM, you can simply download and install the "GoLauncher EX" from the market (free). No rooting necessary. It's a fantastic replacement for the Fire UI and it gives the tablet the look and feel of "Gingerbread." Neall
Thanks for the replies thus far! I've just been looking into alternative launchers for the Fire instead of doing a full-out root/custom ROM. Some of the third-party launchers look pretty nice and really look to give the Fire a proper tablet appearance. I assume Google Apps (Gmail, Maps, Market) are available for non-rooted devices? Those are a must for me.
Browsing is fine. Definitely capable of running almost every site. Rooting is easy. Haven't tried ICS ROMs yet, only messing with my themes for now.
::google apps are not available for nonRooted devices (to my knowledge) -- yes it sucks, but rooting is made easy for that reason :>
You would need to root your KF to install the Android Market and get those apps, but with the information on the forums it is very easy. The first handful of threads in the development forums have all the information you need.
Picked it up tonight. It's got some nice hardware. For now, I've installed ADW.Launcher EX to give it more of a Gingerbread feel, but something just feels a bit off compared to a proper Android 2.x experience. I can't quite put my finger on it.
Root and install CM7 and that feeling will go away.
Sent from my Kindle Fire using xda premium
hrbib21 said:
Root and install CM7 and that feeling will go away.
Sent from my Kindle Fire using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
+1 btw rooting is easy as ****. The tough part is installing a recovery. At least I had a few scares
Sent from my ADR6400L using XDA App
if you want a tablet i would suggest aganst the fire. its a great device that is primarily for reading books. here at xda it has been transformed into a tablet but i truely believe a native tablet is the way to go in terms of video and web consumption.
yes the kindle can handle it but a native tablet can do it better. also please consider the smaller ram, processor and non expandable memory
tokyostomp said:
if you want a tablet i would suggest aganst the fire. its a great device that is primarily for reading books. here at xda it has been transformed into a tablet but i truely believe a native tablet is the way to go in terms of video and web consumption.
yes the kindle can handle it but a native tablet can do it better. also please consider the smaller ram, processor and non expandable memory
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
YMMV. I had been debating on weather to buy a KF or an ASUS Transformer. I know, huge difference in price and specs. My co-worker has had an ASUS for a couple of months now and he loves it. But I ask him what he does with it and he plays a few games, checks email, facebook, internet...maybe watch a few videos and listen to music.
Well I bought the KF this week from WM and promptly rooted and flashed CM7 (barebones). I couldn't be happier. It does all of the things I just mentioned. It may not play Tegra games....but that's not a big deal. We have at home an Xbox 360, PS3, a laptop and PC, plus two iPod touches and my EVO 3D. So we are covered for gaming purposes.
Last night I watched video over my sling box Dish DVR and it worked very well. Then I watched a video over Hulu Plus and it was fantastic. Haven't tried Netflix yet (we quit a few months ago).
So for $150 (Walmart this week) vs. at least double that for the Asus or more. The KF meets my needs and probably most everyone else's too.
Swapped out ADW.Launcher EX for GO Launcher EX. GO seems to be a bit more stable than ADW and seems to be a lot more customizable. It's becoming a bit more usable. I'll probably not bother rooting and installing any ROMs until ICS becomes a bit more stable and mature.
usnret04 said:
YMMV. I had been debating on weather to buy a KF or an ASUS Transformer. I know, huge difference in price and specs. My co-worker has had an ASUS for a couple of months now and he loves it. But I ask him what he does with it and he plays a few games, checks email, facebook, internet...maybe watch a few videos and listen to music.
Well I bought the KF this week from WM and promptly rooted and flashed CM7 (barebones). I couldn't be happier. It does all of the things I just mentioned. It may not play Tegra games....but that's not a big deal. We have at home an Xbox 360, PS3, a laptop and PC, plus two iPod touches and my EVO 3D. So we are covered for gaming purposes.
Last night I watched video over my sling box Dish DVR and it worked very well. Then I watched a video over Hulu Plus and it was fantastic. Haven't tried Netflix yet (we quit a few months ago).
So for $150 (Walmart this week) vs. at least double that for the Asus or more. The KF meets my needs and probably most everyone else's too.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
i bought mine from craigslist and am pretty happy with the fire. lol i actually paid for half of it with giftcards. haha. i mostly screw around on the "tablet" but miss the hdmi and usb of the thrive sometimes. for about 100 buxs i can live without it though
RevosFTS said:
+1 btw rooting is easy as ****. The tough part is installing a recovery. At least I had a few scares
Sent from my ADR6400L using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Rooting and installing bootloader/recovery are all quite easy thanks to the Kindle Fire Utility (latest version 0.9.3 works well with latest 6.2.2 kindle firmware), but i think the hardest part for most users is getting the correct ADB drivers installed so your PC can actually speak the same language as the Kindle (there are great guides for all of this though). Once that part is done, the rest is a breeze with KFU. I just installed barebones CM7 last night and am VERY impressed. Only FC I have gotten so far is when using the XDA app. Ironic?? Happy rooting!
---------- Post added at 03:09 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:06 PM ----------
beanboy89 said:
Swapped out ADW.Launcher EX for GO Launcher EX. GO seems to be a bit more stable than ADW and seems to be a lot more customizable. It's becoming a bit more usable. I'll probably not bother rooting and installing any ROMs until ICS becomes a bit more stable and mature.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Have you found a way with GoLauncherEX to disable the status bar that's always showing? I know that some apps disable it natively, but it bugs me that the status bar is always showing as well as the GoLauncher dock. Seems repetitive. But maybe there's a way in the settings and I just couldn't find. However, I did install CM7 last night which uses ADW by default and I'm pretty impressed with how swiping down will hide the status bar/notification area and give you a totally full screen experience. Very nice for screen-gazers such as myself!
I started with root and the Go launcher which ran well but I decided to try out the beta cm9 build and it is amazing. Its still very much a work in progress but so much more suited for a tablet. Runs like a dream and most apps install with no problems. Even video is working pretty well (just no Netflix)
You could expand the kindle's memory with few wires, male/female adaptor, and a hardrive/smartphone/w.e

HTC Desire HD compared to HTC One X [both on android 4.0 and Sense 4]

Hello everybody.
If anyone is interested how our device performs next to the "big boy" like One X, here is a video showing you exactly that.
Besides, it prooves absolutely the oposite of what HTC have said about our device running better android 2.3.5 than android 4.0.
Make love, not war!
miHah
I started watching this video and then he started talking. Clothes instantly came off.
Benicio del Toro??????
Sent from my Desire HD using xda app-developers app
Great video! What ROM are you using?
Sent from my Desire HD
Yes, would be interessting to know which ROM is used on the DHD. Runs really smooth in my opinion. Currently i'm using Virtuos Infinity v1.30.0 Alpha 1.
This video actually doesn't prove a thing. You usually don't see much of a difference unless you did something more resource heavy than what I saw him do in the video.
Thanks a lot man U have just confirmed what we all were suspecting. This device is more than capable for running ICS and HTC just want us to buy another cellphone
nemo09 said:
Yes, would be interessting to know which ROM is used on the DHD. Runs really smooth in my opinion. Currently i'm using Virtuos Infinity v1.30.0 Alpha 1.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It's using Primo s v3.5 as you can see when he gos to the software version
Actually marl30 is right, you can take any phone and do those things fairly quickly, the difference is in the heavy using. What is the point of having ICS if your phone will not be able to play games as smoothly as it used to before. Some people would say they don't need games, but that is not the issue. A company such as HTC is obliged to provide a ROM with full functionality, heavy gaming included. If in their opinion DHD is not capable of running games on ICS the same way it was on GB then their not releasing ICS for DHD would be fully understandable. Although I tried gaming on HTC and must say that there is little difference in performance. The issue is that the drivers are not perfect and sometimes there are glitches on the screen or some lights missing.
haerigrek said:
Actually marl30 is right, you can take any phone and do those things fairly quickly, the difference is in the heavy using. What is the point of having ICS if your phone will not be able to play games as smoothly as it used to before. Some people would say they don't need games, but that is not the issue. A company such as HTC is obliged to provide a ROM with full functionality, heavy gaming included. If in their opinion DHD is not capable of running games on ICS the same way it was on GB then their not releasing ICS for DHD would be fully understandable. Although I tried gaming on HTC and must say that there is little difference in performance. The issue is that the drivers are not perfect and sometimes there are glitches on the screen or some lights missing.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
1- little difference.
2- nothing is perfect, even htc's last oficial rom was buggy
3- of course there are glitches, devs here are either porting from other phones or building from ground up and doing a hell of a good job.
4- and yeah, I do agree with your initial statement - but that is not the issue as stated beforehand.
Sent from a dream.
Don't get me wrong, I also think we should get ICS or even JB. I believe that it would run like hell on our DHDs. I'm only saying that you can't compare those two phones barely on such mundane tasks like opening an sms app or launching facebook. The test with locking and unlocking the phone is just playing stupid. You can take any new phone and compare it to any old phone and the result will be the same, the task is designed to be easy on the phone so to be accomplished quickly.
Try running these two through a benchmark or measure the framerate on some gameloft games (Asphalt, GT Motor Academy etc.) the difference will be huge.
Quite frankly, to me the only viable reason for us is the fact that HTC One V (or One S) is actually the same phone as our DHD but with ****ty camera, and that thing is getting ICS. So if the same hardware with worse camera can operate sufficiently under ICS why can't the DHD. It obviously is a scam on us customers to make us leave the great device that we have and go spend our money on some new HTC phone. If you ask me that whole thing with ICS helped me with a decision, I know now that my next phone will not be HTC, probably SGS III or Note 2, at least they get support.
haerigrek said:
The test with locking and unlocking the phone is just playing stupid. You can take any new phone and compare it to any old phone and the result will be the same, the task is designed to be easy on the phone so to be accomplished quickly.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes, but both devices use same software so its only the matter of hardware (and cpu scheduler) how fast they unlock But yea, it clearly did not proove anything besides that Desire HD can run Ice Cream Sandwich like big phones can. I think that was the point?
Well, almost. What I meant was that running ICS is one thing, other thing is to run apps on ICS. In the same way you can compare an old PC and a new PC. Old one will run games ok under Win XP. New one will run games the same under Win7. But if you install Win7 on the old PC the system itself will run fine, simple tasks will run as well as on the new one but you will not be able to play your games anymore.
haerigrek said:
Well, almost. What I meant was that running ICS is one thing, other thing is to run apps on ICS. In the same way you can compare an old PC and a new PC. Old one will run games ok under Win XP. New one will run games the same under Win7. But if you install Win7 on the old PC the system itself will run fine, simple tasks will run as well as on the new one but you will not be able to play your games anymore.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Comparing windows to android is like comparing a toyota to a benz.
Sent from a dream.
The idea is the same. Comparison to windows was merely to exemplify my point.
haerigrek said:
The idea is the same. Comparison to windows was merely to exemplify my point.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I got your point (edit: maybe I didn't), but it is not the same to put a benz engine in a toyota frame than a toyota engine in a benz.
Android is basically linux (someone correct me if I wrong), and linux is developed in such a way you can put it in older machines and works much better than windows in the same machine.
If android follows the same philosophy, then there is no reason why a fully optimized ics or jb can't work on our dhd's/inspires.
I may be wrong and I may have digressed from your initial premise, if I did sorrry.
Sent from a dream.
Teichopsia said:
I got your point (edit: maybe I didn't), but it is not the same to put a benz engine in a toyota frame than a toyota engine in a benz.
Android is basically linux (someone correct me if I wrong), and linux is developed in such a way you can put it in older machines and works much better than windows in the same machine.
If android follows the same philosophy, then there is no reason why a fully optimized ics or jb can't work on our dhd's/inspires.
I may be wrong and I may have digressed from your initial premise, if I did sorrry.
Sent from a dream.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You are correct. Because every update does not make the system resource heavy, but its optimized so it runs smoother and buttery good, like jelly bean. Its not like windows - they are heavier and heavier because they want people to buy new computers. Remember - windows has 85% sales when people buy windows preinstalled on computers. You cant compare it with android or cars (cars and engine - you are talking hardware here, we are all about software)
miHah said:
Hello everybody.
If anyone is interested how our device performs next to the "big boy" like One X, here is a video showing you exactly that.
Besides, it prooves absolutely the oposite of what HTC have said about our device running better android 2.3.5 than android 4.0.
Make love, not war!
miHah
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I.. do not fully understand. You show a video proving the animation speeds are the same? If im not mistaken, arnt the animations made to run at a certain speed? If thats the case then the video really doesnt prove anything between the two phones.
HTC should learn something from this.. The developers in XDA can do this so why cant the engineers at HTC??
They should hire their developers from XDA
AnumEndzeit said:
I.. do not fully understand. You show a video proving the animation speeds are the same? If im not mistaken, arnt the animations made to run at a certain speed? If thats the case then the video really doesnt prove anything between the two phones.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
In video it was pointed out that all setting on both phones are the same, so its all matter of harware how the phones perform.
ErnestoD said:
Thanks a lot man U have just confirmed what we all were suspecting. This device is more than capable for running ICS and HTC just want us to buy another cellphone
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
We all know HTC i not being sincere by saying we wont have a nice experience on ICS... Its just some marketing decisions.. Stupid company..

Categories

Resources