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Video Camera and Chat?

I remember hearing that the video camera on the Universal might not be useable for Internet conferencing. Does anyone know if this is correct? Sorry if this is a silly question, but what exactly CAN it be used for?

the whole bell and whistles of 3G or UTMS if you want
was that you could do video phoning
so that would be the purpos of the cam i guess
it's also mentioned in the o2 sales pdf which i thing
was removed because o2 (or was it tmobile) got upset
because their internal doc's ended up here

er.. Universal does NOT have 3G. sorry.

macsoft said:
er.. Universal does NOT have 3G. sorry.
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ohhh yes, it got 3G (UMTS)
It's the first PPC announced with 3G ever :wink:

thats what makes it tasty
no more SLOOOOOOOOW gprs
data speeds

So what about internet conferencing? Will that be possible? I assume that would require some MSN-like software, or would there be a way to send video via the internet?

if the applications were made and the camera supported it's really very early to say anything for surden
all we have right now is
you hearing that it will not work
try asking you where you heard it

no no no
it will be like this
you sit on yer chair with wifi on
and you voice and video chat through msn messenger on yer xda 4

huh?
and why would it be over wifi and not utms ?
i mean apart from the fact that wifi would be cheaper
but not as available as utms

Rudegar said:
if the applications were made and the camera supported it's really very early to say anything for surden
all we have right now is
you hearing that it will not work
try asking you where you heard it
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I hope no one asks me where I heard it... too much information, brain too small :shock:
Dale Coffing says some things about the video conferencing at http://dalecoffing.typepad.com/my_weblog/2005/06/first_impressio.html
Why does he say that he needed a SIM card to check the video conferencing?

If it can't do both it's kind of like saying that you can only store images on device, not on SD.
I could never in my wildest dreams belive that they would implement this and then not make it avalible for the Wifi connection, or any current connection at all other than 3G.

Yes it is 3G, and yes it supports video calls.
Waiting on my 3G SIM card at the moment to test......

Tekguru said:
Waiting on my 3G SIM card at the moment to test......
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So you have one there right now?
Whats the FCC ID printed on the label of your device??

I guess what I am trying to ask is whether I can use the Universal to send video via the Internet to a computer using a program like MSN Messenger or Netmeeting? Is there software included that does this, or is it just a matter of waiting and hoping that someone will make a program that does it?
Alternatively, would it be possible to post the video to a website?
I understand that it may be too early to tell, maybe TechGuru can let us know?
Thanks.

May I ask why you want the FCC ID?
I can't really say more than I have already guys, under very tight NDA with O2.
Just keep your eyes peeled on Tekguru!

Tekguru said:
May I ask why you want the FCC ID?
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To check the FCC website for any info.
Can't find anything there on the Universal, so either it's more confidential than other HTC devices,
It's under a different FCC granteecode which could be that HTC is spreading risk/sales into different sub companies or they have used a sub contracter to build the Universal,
The data wont be avaliable before launch date (which it is for other devices??)

Video Conferencign
It wont have video conferencing. It will be able to do Video Messaging. There is a big difference. Video messageing you record a 10-15sec clip and send it. The person recieves this video clip, downloads it, and then plays it. Its not actually LIVE streaming though.

thats mms
the other 3g utms phones i've seen offer video phoning
not that good quality and the sound is not 100% synced but
they do offer it
dont see why the universal should not also offer this

bosjo said:
Tekguru said:
May I ask why you want the FCC ID?
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To check the FCC website for any info.
Can't find anything there on the Universal, so either it's more confidential than other HTC devices,
It's under a different FCC granteecode which could be that HTC is spreading risk/sales into different sub companies or they have used a sub contracter to build the Universal,
The data wont be avaliable before launch date (which it is for other devices??)
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The Universal is not on the FCC site under HTC or any other company. Easy to do as the FCC now allows companies to delay publishing of *any* details provided the device is not on sale before the info appears.

Re: Video Conferencign
xda_dev said:
It wont have video conferencing. It will be able to do Video Messaging. There is a big difference. Video messageing you record a 10-15sec clip and send it. The person recieves this video clip, downloads it, and then plays it. Its not actually LIVE streaming though.
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It will do video calls though.
While I don't believe the next gen Mobile Messenger will support video conferencing directly, you can use Microsoft Portrait - http://research.microsoft.com/~jiangli/portrait/ - which does work with Messenger (and the buddy lists). It's also free.

HTC hero no FM radio?!?!

I heard it doesnt have a FM receiver is that true if yes is there any way i could still receive radio signals?? I hope there is cause thats the only reason for me not buying it.

That is correct. No FM-radio in HTC Hero. That does not work in the subway anyway so I put my hopes up for a good webradio application.

i hated this about my iphone as well (currently have a hero coming) but it isn't that big of a deal because web radio works where ever you have a data signal; usually FM radio in buildings is ****e most of time due to signal quality.

If you download Beebplayer from the market you can "Listen Live" to BBC Radio 1,2,3 etc and also "Watch Live" BBC1, 2, News etc. Aslong as you're a TV License holder.

Web Radio is so much better than FM, you don't need headphones with you just to be able to play it. This is no biggie to me really, as said previously, reception is ****e.

web radio might have better reception but not all local fm stations are web based plus data signal quality and range may not always be strong. Besides having two options is always better than one.

using web radio will eat up your monthly data allowance more quickly then a fat kid eating a Big Mac

xinos said:
I heard it doesnt have a FM receiver is that true if yes is there any way i could still receive radio signals?? I hope there is cause thats the only reason for me not buying it.
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I do tatally agree with you! You are the first people that i's read on the web that has really the same mind than me!
jim_0068 said:
i hated this about my iphone as well (currently have a hero coming) but it isn't that big of a deal because web radio works where ever you have a data signal; usually FM radio in buildings is ****e most of time due to signal quality.
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I've got an Ipod Touch and really dislike the "Apple politic", so really need a change and thought HTC hero (with FM) would have made this difference! I don't consider web radio because of the web access and don t need a 3G connexion. FM should be basicly on any multimedia stuff!!!!

FM Receiver on all the HTC's I have used have always been poor reception anyway, so I never used it

hmm, just found saw this: http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/06/nexus-one-teardown-reveals-possible-802-11n-radio-and-fm-transmi
what chipset is mounted on the hero?
radio streaming cannot be compared to fm radio. it consumes way more battery and internet bandwidth..

Nexus one is the top model from HTC today...
Hero is based on qualcomm and like Magic does not have FM receiver, so only way is online radio...

Inovator said:
Nexus one is the top model from HTC today...
Hero is based on qualcomm and like Magic does not have FM receiver, so only way is online radio...
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...not completely true
On modern smartphones most FM receivers are integrated in the bluetooth chipset.
The Hero hardware uses BRF6350 chipset form TI, which in fact has a FM receiver subcircuit. FYI: the X1, a.k.a. HTC Kovsky, also uses this chipset and has FM radio function.
See here for more details about the chip:
http://focus.ti.com/pdfs/wtbu/ti_bluelink_6_brf6350.pdf
These chips require some firmware to interact properly with the main CPU.
So without a proper firmware file activating the FM subset, there'll never be FM radio for Hero.
There might be also hardware parts missing to get this ever working....
P.S.: Nexus is also based on Qualcomm.
Best regards,
scholbert

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...not completely true
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ooooooooooooooooooooold thread there dude.
you should have noticed since they claimed nexus one was the best android phone LoL... it's been a while since that was true (not saying it isn't a great phone though).

dkelley said:
ooooooooooooooooooooold thread there dude.
you should have noticed since they claimed nexus one was the best android phone LoL... it's been a while since that was true (not saying it isn't a great phone though).
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Sure... i can read
Anyway old threads maybe filled with additional information.... at least for some even old information, is new information.
Regards,
scholbert

That may be true, but it's bumped a thread that's about 7 months old. And that's just annoying for many people.
Although its good information

and what about http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=13380058&highlight=hero# ?

Lutchezar said:
and what about http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=13380058&highlight=hero# ?
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nice one, thanks for sharing

Lutchezar said:
and what about http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=13380058&highlight=hero# ?
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And now we've bumped a thread over a year old, 2.5 years from original post...
This person in this post here claimed to have my app running OK on a cdma Hero, but then had some problem and disappeared : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=18460535&postcount=1462
I don't know if the gsm version is the same.
AFAIK, the only issue is the audio routing. RSSI looked OK on good stations I think.
I'm here due to an email I received, but for further discussion, perhaps my thread is best: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=22492334&postcount=2246

htc Wifi Hot spot app from Evo4g, possible porting?

Hi,
is there a way to extract the htc Wifi Hot spot app from Evo4g shipped rom? the rom has been released today here http://shipped-roms.com/shipped/Supersonic/
I'm not really into the rom modding, apk creation and app porting but if anyone more capable can look into it that'd be awesome
Thanks in advance, i'm really missing this feature from my old touch hd~

I have extracted, de-odexed and signed the apk. It installed successfully but i get FC if i launch the app. Unfortunately my skills end here, i dont even know how to get app crash logs and stuff, and chances are i wouldnt know what do to with them even if i had them .
It is also possible that the hotspot app is somehow bound to WCDMA protocols and ****..
I'm attaching the apk if someone more skilled than me is interested in taking a look

Nice that's something, atleast you try'd

Nice thread. Hope you can get some help from others.
On this occassion, have you tried perhaps the video app, it supports 720p.
One more thing, the EVO4 has a different kind of Snapdragon than Desire, this could be the cause of force close.

They're not that different, the Evo4G snapdragon is just a new revision with WCDMA support, probably there's more stuff to port, maybe some library in the rom.
We've to read the error log to figure that out

[email protected] said:
They're not that different, the Evo4G snapdragon is just a new revision with WCDMA support, probably there's more stuff to port, maybe some library in the rom.
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The EVO does not support WCDMA!
EVO supports CDMA (3G) and WiMAX (4G) - WCDMA is part of the GSM standard upon which HSDPA is implemented, and the EVO is most emphatically not a GSM phone.
Regards,
Dave

I can see how people would get confused though, what with the GSM Forum calling their 3G standard WCDMA - I appreciate that it's a description of how it works, but it was bound to create confusion regarding the existing (and totally unrelated) CDMA standards.

Nfc on gnote n7000

Hi Gurus,
Is there any possibility that we can get NFC feature on GNote in near future?
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Nope.
It needs hardware that the N7000 doesn't have.
Buy the LTE version if you want that.
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you can in the not toooo far future get SIM cards with build inn NFC...don't know how far inn the future that is yet though...

I was sure NFC was built in the Note. I'm surprised it isn't. I bought the Note thinking to keep it for a long time but now I'm disappointed because I'm sure I saw it advertised almost everywhere that the Note has NFC. %@C*//

abstract123 said:
I was sure NFC was built in the Note. I'm surprised it isn't. I bought the Note thinking to keep it for a long time but now I'm disappointed because I'm sure I saw it advertised almost everywhere that the Note has NFC. %@C*//
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I think I saw it on one of the teardown videos. It is not used however.

senectus said:
Nope.
It needs hardware that the N7000 doesn't have.
Buy the LTE version if you want that.
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Buy the LTE (AT&T) Note for NFC.
BTW if they do release a sim card capable of holding a NFC chip, your after market Alloy back will block it from working...
Also that Moneto link looks scammy to me, "Booster stickers" are complete bull****.
In fact If the sticker has any metal in it it'll make it harder for the NFC Arial to pickup any signal.

rahool_26 said:
Hi Gurus,
Is there any possibility that we can get NFC feature on GNote in near future?
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I'm sure you can as the NFC chip is built into the actuall battery not the phone it self here check out the link for your self its not that expensive http://www.exportprive.com/en/samsu...eb615268vk-eb615268vucstd--8806071790138.html
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abstract123 said:
I was sure NFC was built in the Note. I'm surprised it isn't. I bought the Note thinking to keep it for a long time but now I'm disappointed because I'm sure I saw it advertised almost everywhere that the Note has NFC. %@C*//
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Just get the nfc Offical battery for the Galaxy note
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Will the NFC battery work on the N7000?
Has anyone tested?

FRlTZ said:
Will the NFC battery work on the N7000?
Has anyone tested?
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yeah it should work just as any other nfc chip on simcard etc - but on gingerbread there is no application that support it yet

Anything else required other than the battery? I thought the att note had nfc hardware onthe battery cover?
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lol, you have no idea how NFC works do you?
The NFC is NOT built into the battery, Its a part of the main-board and Snapdragon architecture
see pics here:
http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/63911416-post3899.html
this is simple.
you either buy the Korean Model (not recommended)
or you buy the LTE Snapdragon model
or you live without NFC and buy the N7000 (Exynos chipset) International version.

I gotta ask, what exactly are you guys using nfc for? Trying to figure out the hype. Please be as detailed as possible.

What the heck does the NFC battery do since the "NFC enabled" ones have the the extra connections for the anntena

intruda119 said:
I gotta ask, what exactly are you guys using nfc for? Trying to figure out the hype. Please be as detailed as possible.
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Basically:
-You can store your information like for say your credit card info on your phone and if you find a NFC enabled payment device like seen in Toys R Us or Best Buy you can just scan your phone instead of having to pull out your card all the time. This replaces your card entirely.
-Android Beam: Let's you exchange information by putting two phones with NFC in them to exchange info like videos, pictures, links, and making payments(It's not made yet, but probably in the future).
These two are the only uses I could think up of right now that is right now available in the U.S. In other countries you can use them as bus passes too like in South Korea.

Android Beam only works in ICS at the moment..

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intruda119 said:
I gotta ask, what exactly are you guys using nfc for? Trying to figure out the hype. Please be as detailed as possible.
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I know what I want to use it for in the future - context sensitive app launchers!
Sony is going to push this hard - look for sony nfc smart tags on Amazon.

Are you guys really that comfortable to store all that personal information on a smartphone?
Maybe later for me.

Well, If your using the Android pattern lock you should be safe, as even FBI can't break it
The NFC ready battery I think is that it has a NFC antenna, the chip is on the phone itself I believe...
Correct me if I'm wrong..

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Well, If your using the Android pattern lock you should be safe, as even FBI can't break it
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LOL
I'm sure when NFC is ready for prime time the note 2 maybe 3 will be out already.
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GPS data not working with LTE activated?

GPS data retrieval not working when LTE activated?
Noticed this when inside building and requesting GPS location.
Anybody else experiencing this problem?
Note: I also notice the GPS lock icon coming on every 15 minutes, searching for location for up to 2 minutes at a time. App info for this notification: system UI.

Not sure if serious

Daniel Dumile said:
Not sure if serious
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??
Connect to LTE on ur Nexus 4 try it, my brother tried it on his Nexus 4, same issue.
Just to clarify this is "GSM/LTE", not "LTE only".
Rogers network/Canada
I was unable to place calls on "LTE only" (also not sure why)

Daniel Dumile said:
Not sure if serious
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There's been some discussion in this thread about issues with LTE and GPS.

1) Turn off LTE
2) Leave LTE off
3) Stop obsessing with LTE
Seriously tho, why does everyone have a hardon for LTE?

Taijohnsen said:
1) Turn off LTE
2) Leave LTE off
3) Stop obsessing with LTE
Seriously tho, why does everyone have a hardon for LTE?
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30-70mbps... Ask yourself why? It's literally light speed. I got 60-something Mbps down the other day.

I'm having the same issue. Gps locks on 3g just fine but doesn't seem get locked on 4g.

Yea really wishing somebody could find a fix to this.. There is an underlying reason

THE_KINGDOM said:
Yea really wishing somebody could find a fix to this.. There is an underlying reason
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Its the same reason for why the other things in 4.2.2 don't work with the old radios, the device isn't supposed to have LTE, Google purposely broke things to stop you from using it.

thracemerin said:
Its the same reason for why the other things in 4.2.2 don't work with the old radios, the device isn't supposed to have LTE, Google purposely broke things to stop you from using it.
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Bro sometimes u seem like a big advocate of restrictions.
There is always a fix especially in the developing world of Android, it's just nobody has bothered because many areas don't have LTE or because whoever is using a fix, didn't make it public. Period.
Who gives a **** what the phone is "supposed to have" what it does have is a band-4 LTE chip. PERIOD.
Hardware is hardware.
"Oh hey I have a lambo with 500hp which is governor at 120kmh max speed, because you're not supposed to drive over the speed limit." - I'm sorry but in this case people would remove the governor and drive faster.

THE_KINGDOM said:
Bro sometimes u seem like a big advocate of restrictions.
There is always a fix especially in the developing world of Android, it's just nobody has bothered because many areas don't have LTE or because whoever is using a fix, didn't make it public. Period.
Who gives a **** what the phone is "supposed to have" what it does have is a band-4 LTE chip. PERIOD.
Hardware is hardware.
"Oh hey I have a lambo with 500hp which is governor at 120kmh max speed, because you're not supposed to drive over the speed limit." - I'm sorry but in this case people would remove the governor and drive faster.
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You're right, except that the problems are in closed source modules, if you want to try your hand at hex editing them and fixing the problems, go ahead, otherwise you should use the phone as it was designed or live with the problems that come with using it in a way it wasn't designed.