Just played with a work colleague's Galaxy S2 and now my Vision feels like the fat ugly friend you see standing with the tall hot chick in a nightclub
That phone is properly awesome...
I cannot live without a physical keyboard so I don't have the option of getting one, sadly.
Please say some stuff to make me feel better about my phone?
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Consider it an evil of the technology treadmill. A newer product is typically going to be faster and better than an older one (unless the manufacturer really screwed up!). You'll drive yourself crazy envying every new phone that comes along that is newer than what you have. So unless you have wads of cash to buy every nice looking phone that comes out, most of us have to make a decision based on the choices you have at the time you want to upgrade, and live with it until you can afford the next upgrade. No doubt, even if you bought a Galxy S2, you would end up salivating the next "latest and greatest" in a few months. Appreciate the fact that you have a nice performing, solidly built phone with a hardware keyboard, that has (and will continue to have, for some time) great developer support.
Ya my roommate just got the g2x and now I hate my phone.
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I know my phone is good and dev support is GREAT, which will allow it a decent enough lifespan for some time to come.
But I just wish someone would put out a super-phone WITH A DAMN KEYBOARD!! I don't care what it would cost to buy, I would buy it. Sure this phone can be OC'd quite nicely, but with the weak mono speaker, average camera and video, screen which is rubbish in direct sunlight, etc. it's not really my dream hardware :-/
Here's hoping the next Nexus comes with with a keyboard, dual (or quad!) core, a gig of ram and decent multimedia components!!
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setspeed said:
I know my phone is good and dev support is GREAT, which will allow it a decent enough lifespan for some time to come.
But I just wish someone would put out a super-phone WITH A DAMN KEYBOARD!! I don't care what it would cost to buy, I would buy it. Sure this phone can be OC'd quite nicely, but with the weak mono speaker, average camera and video, screen which is rubbish in direct sunlight, etc. it's not really my dream hardware :-/
Here's hoping the next Nexus comes with with a keyboard, dual (or quad!) core, a gig of ram and decent multimedia components!!
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I hear you about the direct sunlight. That absolutely blows. Someone wants to trade me the nexus s and I would be all down for it except the no keyboard and few other quirks like no sd card.
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And a 4"+ screen
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And a 4"+ screen
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I know i'm in the minority on this one but screens can be too big. HD7 for example. Just looks gaudy and over the top to me.
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I know i'm in the minority on this one but screens can be too big. HD7 for example. Just looks gaudy and over the top to me.
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I'm with you 4.3" is to big. My bro has a DHD and I find it uncomfortable to use.
My boss just got SGS2 and I have to admit I'm a bit jealous because it is awesome. But I can't see my self ever having a phone without a hardware keyboard so the S2 is a no go for me. I'm certain my next phone will be the successor to the G2, assuming that HTC backtrack on the whole bootloader thing.
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I'm with you 4.3" is to big. My bro has a DHD and I find it uncomfortable to use.
My boss just got SGS2 and I have to admit I'm a bit jealous because it is awesome. But I can't see my self ever having a phone without a hardware keyboard so the S2 is a no go for me. I'm certain my next phone will be the successor to the G2, assuming that HTC backtrack on the whole bootloader thing.
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I hear you about the boatloader. That is a dam shame any way you look at it.
I am not envy of any other phone that does not have a hardware keyboard!
If you want to deal with odin and lack of support for updates. Go samsung. They make nice hardware. But what good is the hardware with crap support to back it up.
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If you want to deal with odin and lack of support for updates. Go samsung. They make nice hardware. But what good is the hardware with crap support to back it up.
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Ditto. There may be faster bigger brighter phones out there, but the g1 and the g2 are such solid phones. They refuse to die. Specially g2 at 1.5ghz. It can still compete. Developers support is do big as compared to some other phones. Htc all the way. Hoping for unlocked bootloader on the sensation.
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Ditto. There may be faster bigger brighter phones out there, but the g1 and the g2 are such solid phones.
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Indeed. My Z can do anyting I need from a phone including playing ps1 games and map keys to play with. What more can I ask for. I will never give it up unless there will be a new powerful mobile with hardware keyboard, which is layed out the same way as the Z keyboard where every other row is shifted.
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Ditto. There may be faster bigger brighter phones out there, but the g1 and the g2 are such solid phones. They refuse to die. Specially g2 at 1.5ghz. It can still compete. Developers support is do big as compared to some other phones. Htc all the way. Hoping for unlocked bootloader on the sensation.
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Couldn't have said it any better myself sir! I absoletly love my phone and I have yet to be envious of any phone since getting mine back in Nov. Love the rom I'm using and couldn't see myself using any other.
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I had an HD2 for ages, an S2 for a few days (then sold it because I could make £160 profit on e-bay due to people paying silly prices!), now I've just ordered a desire Z to give it a go (£263.39 on ebuyer inc VAT)!
Though the S2 was nice & the HD2 does the job, I'm now much more excited about having a hardware keyboard than anything the S2 had to offer!
Unless you dislike hardware keyboards, I agree there's no point having phone envy yet - the S2 does nothing that the HD2/Desire Z can do; it just does things more smoothly!
I would agree that there are phones out there that might be 'prettier' and provide some 'eye candy' but I don't think I would trade my DZ for any other device out there right now.
I too cannot live without a hardware keyboard and the DZ has one of the best keyboards I have ever used. It took some getting used to because of its size, but after that initial period, a keyboard has never felt better in my hands.
And while it may not have the fastest Dual Core Processor on the market, I have yet to find any set of tasks that my DZ can't handle. Throw in the unlocked bootloader and arguably the best developer support of any Android Device and you have a recipe for a long-lasting, competitive smartphone.
I won't even consider upgrading until we get a phone that looks like a 'G3'...
i work at best buy and i see this same situation almost everyday. technology is a love hate thing. you just have to realize that its going to be constantly changing, and getting better. lets not forget that the vision is still a highend phone, and kicks alot of phones asses. i love my g2, but i do see myself getting a htc sensation. ive come to realize that although the kb on the vision is amazing, its not something i have to have. the vision is a great phone, along with the desire hd, nexus s, mytouch 4g and all of the phones that came out the same time this one did. its awesome. you just have to realize that if it does what you want with no problem, then why hate?
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i work at best buy and i see this same situation almost everyday. technology is a love hate thing. you just have to realize that its going to be constantly changing, and getting better. lets not forget that the vision is still a highend phone, and kicks alot of phones asses. i love my g2, but i do see myself getting a htc sensation. ive come to realize that although the kb on the vision is amazing, its not something i have to have. the vision is a great phone, along with the desire hd, nexus s, mytouch 4g and all of the phones that came out the same time this one did. its awesome. you just have to realize that if it does what you want with no problem, then why hate?
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I'd have to disagree with the fact the Vision is high end any more. On release yes, but 6mths down the road it's only just mid-range in pretty much all areas EXCEPT the keyboard. Single core chip (albeit a reasonable one), 512mb RAM (really? The DHD had 768mb), an average 5mp camera...
I think we make a lot of excuses for this phone, just to have the keyboard. I had to think long and hard about keeping my second one because of the questionable z-hinge, and decided that I'd have to live with it since there were no other qwertys coming out (except the Droid 2/Milestone 2 which is a no-no with encrypted bootloader).
I hate the weight of the thing, I hate the battery life (which although better than my old Desire, is still pretty poor as I work in a weak 3G area), I hate the fact I struggle to see the screen in the sunlight, I hate the sh*t-arse weak speaker which struggles to get above one decibel without distorting, and I hate the fact that HTC always cheap out on cameras, the video-recording is crap.
People come to me at work and ask what phone they should buy cos I'm kind of that guy who knows a little bit. And they've all seen the recent HTC marketing campaign here in the UK, they're like "Oh you have an HTC, do you think I should get this HTC (model)?" And I find myself saying "No, get this Samsung, or get this iPhone, they have better features that you would get use out of".
I know I'm not at the point where I want to give up the awesome dev support that HTC phones usually get, but I am at the point where I hope devs start supporting other brands a lot more too. Especially in light of HTCs locking of bootloaders, and the fact it's getting harder and harder to get full access to them. HTC has the big rep as the hacker's choice, but I don't think their hardware justifies it any more. Not at the moment at least.
Don't get me wrong, there is no other phone I'd rather have at the moment, since one doesn't exist. And the rom I'm on is frigging amazing. But if Samsung bring out an S2 with a keyboard then I'd have a heard time saying no to that, as would a lot of other people I imagine. I never thought I'd consider a Samsung after last year's update debacle, and I'm still hesitant now. But if enough devs get one, then they would sort out any probs the phone has.
OK, rant over!
I just watched an unboxing of the HTC Sensation coming to Tmobile ... GODDAMN .. that is a thing of beauty..
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I know my phone is good and dev support is GREAT, which will allow it a decent enough lifespan for some time to come.
But I just wish someone would put out a super-phone WITH A DAMN KEYBOARD!! I don't care what it would cost to buy, I would buy it. Sure this phone can be OC'd quite nicely, but with the weak mono speaker, average camera and video, screen which is rubbish in direct sunlight, etc. it's not really my dream hardware :-/
Here's hoping the next Nexus comes with with a keyboard, dual (or quad!) core, a gig of ram and decent multimedia components!!
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While this is true and all, I still think our phones are the best overall hardware for someone who needs a physical keyboard like myself. There are plenty of physical keyboard models out there (not as many as touch only of course), and there is still yet one to come out with better overall specs than this phone.
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If you want to deal with odin and lack of support for updates. Go samsung. They make nice hardware. But what good is the hardware with crap support to back it up.
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Yep, and that's the BIGGEST problem with Samsuck. They tend to make pretty incredible hardware (minus the vibrant, who the heck makes a camera without a flash nowadays?), but their support is absolutely abysmal. A friend here at work has an Epic 4G, and he's STILL on Eclair. Absolutely unacceptable support.
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So I just got back from the Verizon store about 10 minutes ago and I thought that I would write my impressions. Keep in mind this is just my opinion and I figured it might help some out that have not had the chance to try the Incredible or may be on the fence with it or the Nexus One (yes, I know that the N1 is no longer coming to Verizon =( but for some a provider means nothing)
Some up front information. I am a long time iPhone user (owned all three) and switched to the ATT band Nexus One about a month ago. I personally, love Android and I am very happy with the switch. I have the newest build of Cyanogen Mod (2.6.33.2). I didn't really do any up front tests (i.e, speedtest,browser, or acid etc) , and this review is more to do with my impressions I did however run the two phones side by side and spent over an hour with it.
Ok, so let's get to it. The first thing is aesthetics and to be honest I thought the Incredible looked nice, and also felt pretty good in hand. It seems to be built good and it seems to have the exact same "rubbery" feeling that the battery cover of the N1 has, but it is on the entire back of the phone. The back cover didn't bother me to much at all and I felt that it added to the whole "droid" feel that Verizon and it's partners are trying to pull off. There are a couple things that would worry me if I was an Incredible owner and that is the material they used when making the phone. I couldn't get over the fact that the phone felt a little cheap, but I still get the feeling that it would last if dropped. I don't really get that feeling with my Nexus One. I feel the build of the Nexus One is a little better (i.e, aluminum), but I have always felt that the phone would not with stand the slightest bit of fall from even 3-5 feet (I have never dropped mine so I really have no experience, again this is only my opinion based on how the phones feel).
The Incredible is fast, really fast. I had the same feeling when I used my Nexus One for the first time and as far as I can see there really is not a huge difference in speed between the two phones. But, there is a giant difference in "touch" the Incredible eats my Nexus One's lunch when it comes to overall touch and snappiness. The new sensor really adds to the whole Android experience and of all the Android phones I have tried none so far even come close to the touch screen on the Incredible. My Nexus One was great and the iPhone's I had was even better, but finally we have an Android phone (in my opinion) that not only competes with the iPhone on touchscreen and multitouch technology, but the Incredible one ups it. It really made the whole experience a lot more enjoyable on the phone. Everything, seems to work like Android was designed to work.
The next big thing I noticed and tested was the N1 trackball vs the Incredible's optical sensor. The sensor was nice and I have mixed feelings between the two. I mean everyone knows that an optical sensor looks better and should last a hell of a lot longer than a trackball and I have always felt that the trackball on the N1 looked way out of place. I have gotten really used to the trackball and I use it quite a bit and it is a lot easier to use than the optical sensor. You won't see a big difference at all if you are just flipping between screens or jumping to a text needed in the browser, but you will when choosing apps (but, really who does that anyways when you have touch) Like I said I have mixed feelings I love the look of the optical sensor, but I really feel the trackball is a little more responsive. It took me a while to get used to the trackball so I am sure if I owned the phone I would get a little more used to it and my opinion would change. I must say that I don't use the trackball often so if I had the choice I am sure I would choose the optical sensor.
Some of the other things I noticed that didn't make a huge impression was Sense vs Vanilla Android. I have used sense off and on with both my N1 (Modaco ROM), and my fiance's Droid Eris. I don't have much of an opinion, but I would give just a slight edge to Vanilla Android just because of the update situation however, if Google really adjusts Android like they are rumored to do and the update situation is non existent my opinion would change and I would like Sense. I guess we will see, but as far as some saying that having Sense will bog down Android I must say that I didn't experience that at all. They both ran just as smooth and will the Incredible's wonderful touch sensor I would give a slight favor to the Incredible with sense over the N1.
I spent about ten minutes with the camera/video camera on both phones and although I couldn't tell a huge difference in the pictures and videos (I know the Incredible sports a 8 mp and the N1 5mp), but I was also not able to upload any pictures to a computer to blow them up. I did send them to my email and I will post later if I notice a big jump or not. I still would give the Incredible the advantage just because why wouldn't I? 8mp is always going to beat 5mp and dual flash is nice.
Next one of my biggest gripes about the N1 and that is the touch sensor buttons on the bottom of the phone. The N1 like many probably know work and work well, but you have to touch the top two thirds of the label to get them to respond at all and I did find for the first little bit of owning the phone I often touched the home screen button when typing a text or email. With the Incredible these work perfectly. Not only do you not have to aim your finger, but they also worked every time I attempted to use them. They are in a different order than the N1 so that took me a minute to get used to, but no biggie. This is the way HTC and Google should of made the N1 work and personally I think they got it right with the Incredible.
I don't have a problem with my N1 when it comes to the 3G dropping issue and that could be that I got the ATT one or maybe I just got lucky. I did try to cover the bottom of the Incredible and it didn't seem to dip at all. Also, there was a Moto Droid right next to the Incredible and they seemed to get the same service so that should be a relief for many.
I wish that I would of had a couple days with this phone so that I could test many other aspects with it like the battery, further tests on 3G and wifi, the overall build, and even the speed. Really the Incredible is a nice phone and in a lot of ways I feel that it lives up to the hype. In my opinion I found my self wishing that I had the screen touch sensor in my N1 it really makes a giant difference even tho the N1 isn't all that bad. I could really do without the extra mega pixels in the camera and to my knowledge they both record at the same levels (I may be wrong with this and if I am then I am sorry). I do wish that the touch sensors on the bottom of the N1 worked as well as the Incredible, but I can live without it. Like I said sense vs Vanilla until I hear differently I would rather get the quicker updates, but if Google addresses this issue I would love to Sense on my N1 (Yes, I know I can with Modaco Sense ROM). The trackball is something that doesn't make a huge difference, but I do worry about how well it will hold up after months of usage.
My final feelings are that although the Incredible is the better phone it is not worth switching over to Verizon for it (although yes I do believe that Verizon is the better provider, but I have a family plan and a contract and that is what I am speaking of). The Incredible looks and feels nice, but I must say I like the overall look and feel of the N1 a little more. Like I said, I couldn't get over the fact that the Incredible felt a little fragile because of the plastic material the phone is made of, but then again the N1's build doesn't feel all that more solid of a phone. The N1 screen looked to me to be a little wider (I could be wrong) and although it sounds wierd it did make a difference, at least to me it did. It will be interesting to see when the Incredible will get the desk dock and car dock because these are big selling points to me with my N1. The deal breaker is the touch screen and how it works. This is the biggest selling point of this phone and that makes me want it, but there is one big thing with my N1 that I really enjoy and that is the wonderful developers behind the N1. I love how easy Google made to root this phone and I really think that a lot of developers make our phones all the more fun to use. Until, I can see the Incredible get these abilities (I am sure they will with great people like Paul the other day rooting the Desire) I would have to go with my N1.
I hope this was helpful to some and that people don't think I was to harsh to either side. I tried my hardest to not come off like a "fanboi" and tried to be as unbiased as possible. I really went in today looking to see if this phone lived up to its hype and I believe it did. I can't see many flaws with owning this phone and I welcome all of our new Android brothers and sisters to the party. Let me know how you all think and thanks for reading I know it's long as hell. Again, A huge thank you to all you developers that pour your hard work into making all of our lives easier. You really make our phones and the Android world all the much better than the competition. Keep up the good work, we love you guys!
Very nice review! For some reason though, even if I could get an Incredible.. I don't think I would o_0 I really don't know why, but.. even though it has better specs (well, not that many matter) I just don't even think I actually "want" it. Is that weird?
They're both great phones, and really are just going to make Android better. Wait, you said the Nexus's screen was wider? Pictures really don't show that.. I thought the Incredible had a wider screen. Weirdness..
Fair enough. I'd say it's just a case of the Incredible coming out later, hence with better hardware. Newer stuff almost always have better components. That's just the way gadgets are. The thing that irks me are people saying that the "old" stuff SUCKS now because there's "new" stuff now. These are the idiots that should be shot.
I too considered the Incredible, but for some reason I felt pangs of loss when I considered not having my Nexy anymore.
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Wow, great comparison. I read every word. I can't wait to test out the Incredible myself this weekend!
It seems like it's a much better phone in almost every way (touchscreen, soft buttons, camera).
The only downside is what will happen with 2.2. This has yet to be proven, so it can't be counted as a negative -- yet. Time will tell. Until then, I'm definitely envious since in my eyes it is definitely the better phone. Although I think the N1 is definitely sexier
My mom just got this phone today, and I got to say, Sense UI on that phone is a lot faster than Sense UI on the Nexus.
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My mom just got this phone today, and I got to say, Sense UI on that phone is a lot faster than Sense UI on the Nexus.
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That's cause its not made to be on the Nexus, and Paul doesn't have the Desire kernel source to make it a complete build. I don't even know how much of a speed increase that would cause regardless.. I don't like when people say this (what you said) because the Nexus was never made to run Sense UI, and therefore doesn't have the correct optimization, the stock 2.1 Google experience is the Nexus's child.. not Sense. Im assuming you knew this.. though. Oh and edit, everything I said could possibly be wrong. I am not a ROM baker, or developer.
I wish the things that made the Incredible better interested me, I dont take many pictures.. my touchscreen doesn't irritate me.. and the soft buttons do their job well. Another good score for Android though, with next being the Evo - and those new phones Dell are working on.
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Very nice review! For some reason though, even if I could get an Incredible.. I don't think I would o_0 I really don't know why, but.. even though it has better specs (well, not that many matter) I just don't even think I actually "want" it. Is that weird?
They're both great phones, and really are just going to make Android better. Wait, you said the Nexus's screen was wider? Pictures really don't show that.. I thought the Incredible had a wider screen. Weirdness..
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No that isn't weird at all and I feel the same. It isn't a big jump from the Nexus One and even if it was I don't feel comfortable doing it until developers have had their way and have root. It will be interesting to see. If I was going to make a jump (which as of now I wont) I would make the jump to the EVO. The Incredible just doesn't have enough over the N1 specs wise.
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Fair enough. I'd say it's just a case of the Incredible coming out later, hence with better hardware. Newer stuff almost always have better components. That's just the way gadgets are. The thing that irks me are people saying that the "old" stuff SUCKS now because there's "new" stuff now. These are the idiots that should be shot.
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I agree to the fullest! I saw some kids on Engadget saying that the Incredivble is faster in every aspect than the N1 and that is not even close to the fact. It is a great phone and yes Verizon and HTC have fixed some of the N1's flaws but all in all this phone is a plastic Desire (that is not a bad thing at all and to each his own) I just wanted to let people know the impressions I got from the phone. To be honest I hope this phone is even more popular than the Moto Droid and then a bunch of people will get it and get more developers interested in Android. I hope it is a huge mainstream success. I love the idea that I have never seen a N1 rather than mine. They can have all that. I love how easy it is to root the N1 and all the talented developers behind it.
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Wow, great comparison. I read every word. I can't wait to test out the Incredible myself this weekend!
It seems like it's a much better phone in almost every way (touchscreen, soft buttons, camera).
The only downside is what will happen with 2.2. This has yet to be proven, so it can't be counted as a negative -- yet. Time will tell. Until then, I'm definitely envious since in my eyes it is definitely the better phone. Although I think the N1 is definitely sexier
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I agree the Nexus is a lot sexier. I held them up by each other and both look like great designs. The Incredible has nice specs but most are just small upgrades the Incredible's touch screen is the big difference, but so is the N1 being Google's baby and we will get the upgrades a lot faster. That to me is a bigger selling point. If that changes then I might change my mind. The internal memory, better camera, and better buttons just don't warrant a provider jump in my eyes.
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Oh yeah I definately agree a hundred percent. It is a whole different ball game. To be fair Paul's Modoco is still in alpha and it is amazing that he even got it to work. We are lucky that we even get the chance to try it out to be honest.
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That's cause its not made to be on the Nexus, and Paul doesn't have the Desire kernel source to make it a complete build. I don't even know how much of a speed increase that would cause regardless.. I don't like when people say this (what you said) because the Nexus was never made to run Sense UI, and therefore doesn't have the correct optimization, the stock 2.1 Google experience is the Nexus's child.. not Sense. Im assuming you knew this.. though. Oh and edit, everything I said could possibly be wrong. I am not a ROM baker, or developer.
I wish the things that made the Incredible better interested me, I dont take many pictures.. my touchscreen doesn't irritate me.. and the soft buttons do their job well. Another good score for Android though, with next being the Evo - and those new phones Dell are working on.
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You seem to have the same impression as me. I think that stock Android runs just as good on the Nexus One as Sense does on the Incredible. It comes down to overall what people prefer and for me I prefer Vanilla. None of us will be on top of the Android game for long. Every couple of months a better phone is coming out. It happened to the Moto Droid, now the Nexus One, and soon the Incredible with the EVO 4G. Overall, as Android grows we will all reap the benefits. I really think that the specs in the N1 will be relevant for quite awhile and we wont see many phones that completely stomp it. At least not for another year or so. I am happy with my purchase (especially getting rid of that damn iPhone 3Gs)
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No that isn't weird at all and I feel the same. It isn't a big jump from the Nexus One and even if it was I don't feel comfortable doing it until developers have had their way and have root. It will be interesting to see. If I was going to make a jump (which as of now I wont) I would make the jump to the EVO. The Incredible just doesn't have enough over the N1 specs wise.
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Good review man. I also agree that I'd be more interested in the Evo than the Incredible. Partly because of the bigger screen, partly due to the 4G (though my current provider's, T-mobile, HSPA+ might be faster), and partly because I can't stomach paying $40 more a month over Sprint or T-mo.
Do we know yet if the Evo 4G will have the Maxtouch touchscreen?
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I've heard this over and over again and I have to agree - The Droid incredible has a look that pales in comparison to the N1.
Having a great phone that also looks amazing is a huge draw to the reason we get new technology (just ask apple and the people who actually bought a $1700 MacBook air). If looks weren't important for our hardware then we would all be driving economy cars with better MPG specs and having Droid incredibles, instead though we have nice looking cars and a near perfect Nexus 1 that looks amazing.
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Good review man. I also agree that I'd be more interested in the Evo than the Incredible. Partly because of the bigger screen, partly due to the 4G (though my current provider's, T-mobile, HSPA+ might be faster), and partly because I can't stomach paying $40 more a month over Sprint or T-mo.
Do we know yet if the Evo 4G will have the Maxtouch touchscreen?
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I don't know if we know for sure if it will or not, but if I was a betting man (and i def am) I would say that HTC and Sprint would be stupid not to. I also believe that I read somewhere that all HTC phones will now have that sensor in it. I can't prove that as I am going to work now, but I will look for the source while I am at work and try to post it (don't you love smart phones). I know people laugh at the term "superphone" but when you compare these phones to the iPhone or Blackberriers these phones are def more of a "superphone" than a smartphone. Apple is going to have their hands full this year and it will be very interesting to see how it plays out. I for one don't care what Apple does in June I would be stupid to jump off the Android band wagon we just have way to much going on.
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Do we know yet if the Evo 4G will have the Maxtouch touchscreen?
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Yep, Maxtouch!
http://androidandme.com/2010/04/news/htc-incredible-and-evo-4g-to-feature-new-maxtouch-sensors/
IMO even the EVO is only worth upgrading to if you need 720p recording or would value HDMI out. Personally, I would love to have HDMI (don't care for the HD recording all that much) but it still wouldn't justify ditching my N1. I'm not going to upgrade until the N1 ceases to run newer Android software effectively or significant processing upgrades are made (ie. Dual Core). Who knows I may change my mind but that's how I feel right now.
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IMO even the EVO is only worth upgrading to if you need 720p recording or would value HDMI out. Personally, I would love to have HDMI (don't care for the HD recording all that much) but it still wouldn't justify ditching my N1. I'm not going to upgrade until the N1 ceases to run newer Android software effectively or significant processing upgrades are made (ie. Dual Core). Who knows I may change my mind but that's how I feel right now.
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I'm with you. Most picky gadget dweebs tend to upgrade for the sake of having the latest and greatest even though it's only marginally better than the last "toy" they had. I upgrade my phone like I upgrade my PCs: it's only worth upgrading if the new stuff is at least 10 times more powerful than the last one. Which in most cases can take a few years of waiting. AND it's gotta cover what I "need". Most stuff that I "want" should be an included bonus, which the N1 covers quite well (A2DP, wifi tethering).
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Or you value a bigger screen.
Or 4G.
Or Sprint.
Or like the style/looks better.
And so on
The touch buttons on the Incredible seem to be actually on the button, unlike the Nexus. And the camera is amazing!
I never thought I'd say this, but I was under the impression that Samsung's new lineup would be using their own OS (Bada) rather than Android...I've now heard different and done some snooping.
I've hated Samsung phones, but OMG...
http://alienbabeltech.com/main/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/Cellphonehardwarecompari1.png
Just take a look at that!!!
I've got another two weeks that I can return my Evo...should I keep it or wait for Galaxy S?
I mean just look at that - less power consumption, AMOLED screen, much faster GPU, faster RAM
I just got this Evo and I feel like something better is already coming out...
Dude I'm in the same boat as you I just got it and I heard about the galaxy s but after doing more research it seems like my evo is already outdated in some aspects by the galaxy s. I heard rumors its gonna be on t-mobile too and I canceled my contract with them to get the evo. But as I said its better only in a few ways. I wanna see reviews for it but by the time the galaxy s is out I won't be able to return the evo. I'm in a dilemma especially after the problems with the evo like battery life subpar 8 megapixel camera and 720p video and the 30 fps cap (that one gets me pissed) .- I wonder what other ppl at xda have to say- imma be watching this thread.
im returning my evo for the samsung galaxy s pro (with qwerty keyboard) for sprint.
I'm also very interested in the Galaxy. I love the Evo but the screen problem has got me thinking twice and I'm not too happy with how thick the Evo feels to me compared to my HD2. I understand that the Galaxy has a CPU with the same clock speed but tests have shown it to perform better along with the GPU as mentioned. The much slimmer profile sounds very good to me and the lack of a camera flash is a letdown but one I could live with.
Samsung is known for not supporting their phones after release but they have confirmed that the Galaxy will be updated with Froyo. On 2G the battery is rated for talk time longer than the iPhone 4G and is of course replaceable. Also 16GB built-in + add a 32GB micro sd card and you have more storage than nearly any smartphone.
Here is the best review (9 pages) I've found on the Galaxy:
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i9000_galaxy_s-review-478.php
true the galaxy s has some great specs..
but you might want to do a little research on the Samsung support on thier phones. from what I have seen... it is a very big issue. they tend to push out great spec phones and then move on to the next phone to develop; and forget the old.
some times it is not just the specs. how the parts add and give you over all total performance. From reading on other phones.. (ex: hero vs moment).
But it's a Samsung...
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true the galaxy s has some great specs..
but you might want to do a little research on the Samsung support on thier phones. from what I have seen... it is a very big issue. they tend to push out great spec phones and then move on to the next phone to develop; and forget the old.
some times it is not just the specs. how the parts add and give you over all total performance. From reading on other phones.. (ex: hero vs moment).
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im returning my evo for the samsung galaxy s pro (with qwerty keyboard) for sprint.
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That's better than htc who puts out phones with glaring problems and then stops supporting them. I haven't had an htc Pune since the tilt. I was hoping they had changed so I could get an evo, but apparently they haven't. I'm liking the galaxy s pro right now.
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true the galaxy s has some great specs..
but you might want to do a little research on the Samsung support on thier phones. from what I have seen... it is a very big issue. they tend to push out great spec phones and then move on to the next phone to develop; and forget the old.
some times it is not just the specs. how the parts add and give you over all total performance. From reading on other phones.. (ex: hero vs moment).
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LOL....
True, but HTC's record is just as pathetic.
We'll see when we will have a bug fix release and maybe in 10 months Froyo...
The Galaxy is nice, but if you like the developing and deep hacking and customizing.
HTC is the way to go.
yeah you guys are right - i know samsungs phones tend to sound good on paper and turn out not that great after all. happened a couple of times before. wanted to love their phones, but just couldnt.
besides the galaxy s looks pretty ugly compared to the evo
ok is it me or does this thing REALLY look like an iphone clone? Don't get me wrong the specs are good, but that Touchwiz overlay is a huge negative for me. In addition the only advantages I see the Galaxy S as having is the internal storage (which doesn't matter to me because I haven't even filled up my 16gb card half way yet, so an extra 8/16gb of storage doesn't excite me), the screen resolution (I'd rather have less resolution and a larger screen though), and the processor (same clock speed but faster gpu, seeing as I don't do an extensive amount of gaming on my phone I couldn't careless about that. Not to mention the gaming I do with games such as Gangstar and Nova, which are 3d environments, run perfectly fine). The disadvantages for me would be: lack of 4g (I get great 4g coverage here in Atlanta and also get good speeds on it 4-8megs), lack of camera flash, does not come with flash (you will have to wait until froyo, or install a custom rom to do any browsing that involves flash), and below average speakerphone. The phone looks like a decent phone but it does not have enough advantages for me to make a switch. Just my opinion.
I'll pass on the samsung. I'm really not digging their skinning either. With their post support issues I think I'd rather deal with apple and the iphone or motorola and their new high end droid. That said I'm not going to go and get raped by verizon, I don't want to get raped by at&t either and I'm happy with my evo.
HTC 4-LIFE
anyhow the samsung does look nice. but its still not an HTC
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ok is it me or does this thing REALLY look like an iphone clone? Don't get me wrong the specs are good, but that Touchwiz overlay is a huge negative for me. In addition the only advantages I see the Galaxy S as having is the internal storage (which doesn't matter to me because I haven't even filled up my 16gb card half way yet, so an extra 8/16gb of storage doesn't excite me), the screen resolution (I'd rather have less resolution and a larger screen though), and the processor (same clock speed but faster gpu, seeing as I don't do an extensive amount of gaming on my phone I couldn't careless about that. Not to mention the gaming I do with games such as Gangstar and Nova, which are 3d environments, run perfectly fine). The disadvantages for me would be: lack of 4g (I get great 4g coverage here in Atlanta and also get good speeds on it 4-8megs), lack of camera flash, does not come with flash (you will have to wait until froyo, or install a custom rom to do any browsing that involves flash), and below average speakerphone. The phone looks like a decent phone but it does not have enough advantages for me to make a switch. Just my opinion.
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I agree about the looks! It looks way too much like an iPhone and the UI screenshots don't make it look any better. But have you seen the long demo video on YouTube? I forget which one it was, but I have to admit I was pretty impressed by the way it all flowed and this is coming from a guy who loves HTC Sense.
For someone like me, the extra 16GB would mean that I could ditch my iPod 160GB Classic and just have one device (I like to keep all my music and audiobooks on one device). Also reported by a few different blogs, the Galaxy screen is better and the hummingbird is reported too as being faster than the snapdragon in our Evos. And I guess I'm alone in this, but the super slim profile is a huge plus to me. But that back cover is pretty ugly. I'd really just like to demo this thing myself, with my Evo in hand and then decide. I'd also like to do the same with the iPhone 4G. These devices coming out on different dates, sure does making the choice making that much harder.........
man look how responsive it is!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnOHlx0BZ2Y&feature=related
frikin amazing
Any ideas what career its going to be on?
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HTC 4-LIFE
anyhow the samsung does look nice. but its still not an HTC
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You just like HTC because you get to fix whatever is broken. If you buy a Motorola or Samsung you have nothing to fix
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man look how responsive it is!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnOHlx0BZ2Y&feature=related
frikin amazing
Any ideas what career its going to be on?
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I keep reading different carriers. Samsung has said they want the device to be on every carrier in every country and so if that holds true then it will be on all but my question is who will have it first late this month or next month as reported. I have seen some screenshots, showing T-Mobile account data on a Galaxy screen, but now I'm hearing Verizon and ATT as well.......
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You just like HTC because you get to fix whatever is broken. If you buy a Motorola or Samsung you have nothing to fix
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bahahaahh not entirely true about motorla and samsung but still funny ahah
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You just like HTC because you get to fix whatever is broken. If you buy a Motorola or Samsung you have nothing to fix
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naw i like them because they build quality devices and have awesome customer support. i feel they do things right for the most part. i bet after u get done waiting for root on the samsung ull be trying to fix just as many things. also xda and all the other dev communities for HTC devices are well rounded and have a major following. HTC has been spiting out awesome devices for a long time. ive been hooked since my Axim X50v. that was back in 03
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HTC 4-LIFE
anyhow the samsung does look nice. but its still not an HTC
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I'm with you all the way on it, i like how motorola designed the droid X but not their software, and I wouldn't get a motorola anyways.
I am thinking about switching teams to the Epic from the EVO. I love the development on the EVO, Cyanogen is just amazing. It's so lite and fast I love it.
The Epic calls because of features like S-AMOLED, physical keyboard!!!!, similar size, 45nm hummingbird and better battery life have me itching for this phone. The only think that would keep me in the EVO camp is that there is an uncertain path for development.
I have heard that in the past Samsung did not release open source drivers for their phones, but that in the case of the Galaxy S the drivers are out there(at least the international version)
What do people think? Will we see development for this phone? Cyanogen? What would you do?
I wouldn't mind the epic once it was able to be rooted and get that horrible launcher the heck off there.
I actually don't like physical keyboard...feels too much like a prepaid texter phone I guess =x just a matter of taste.
I'm absolutely satisfied with the EVO even if I do wish I could change several things about it. For me, I wouldn't change because I would have to pay full price, if I had an upgrade then maybe. I would possibly change to a phone that would get Android updates faster because as we know with the Hero/2.1 debacle, Sense UI makes things rough and even when the hero did get 2.1 ...it was a dumbed down version. I seriously hope our EVOs get better treatment.
Ultimately, I guess you have to maybe play with one and see how it feels to you.
One word...Samsung. Maybe Samsung will finally redeem themselves to me with this phone, but they have always given their phones poor support after release and in general been really crappy for hardcore enthusiasts. If this phone develops a large user development crowd, you will be safer. Either way your going to have monster hardware, what will the community and the support after the sale be like?
Have you tried swype? If not try it first and give it a few weeks to get used to it.
After using it I feel it makes physical keyboards obsolete.
Wasn't this topic beat to death like last week when someone was crying about leaving for an iphone?
Wrong word choice and misspelling courtesy of swype.
Slide-out hardware keyboards are crap in my experience. I will take Swype ANY DAY.
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who would ever want a physical keyboard again when we have Swype? no way you can type faster on a physical not to mention the extra bulk. with the evo's big screen there is no longer need for a physical keyboard - and this comes from someone who loved the tp2 keyboard.
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Wasn't this topic beat to death like last week when someone was crying about leaving for an iphone?
Wrong word choice and misspelling courtesy of swype.
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I was thinking the same thing. Just didn't want to say it and get the whole "don't be so mean" response
Sorry OP, but I wouldn't touch a phone with a physical keyboard anymore. No need when you have a freaking 4.3 inch screen
Get a second battery,u should get about 8 hours from each at the least. i get at least 10 hours. 1500mhz batteries just arent enough for a 4.3 inch android phone.blame htc for givin us this battery dont blame the phone plz. right now im on 7 hours and 40 minutes with 50% battery left
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Get a second battery,u should get about 8 hours from each at the least. i get at least 10 hours. 1500mhz batteries just arent enough for a 4.3 inch android phone.blame htc for givin us this battery dont blame the phone plz
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The Droid X apparently has much better battery life than the Evo, and it has a 4.3 display. Then again, that might be due to its 45nm processor vs the 65nm found on the Evo.
and ive been using a live wallpaper this whole time
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don't use your phone much as a phone eh?
The things I wouldn't want to give up on the Evo are:
The extra .3" of screen size -- it doesn't sound like much, but when you see the two side by side, the Evo screen isn't a little bigger, it's just flat out bigger.
I like Sense, and the home screen and app screen layouts are more my style.
The GPS on the Galaxy phones are reportedly poor. They lock on fewer satellites than the Evo does and are slow to do so.
I had a slider on the TP2, and I rarely used it. The keyboard on the 4.3" screen makes a physical keyboard only helpful in specific situations, and even RDP is fully functional and usable even without a physical keyboard. So I'd rather not have it and save on the bulk.
I also have zero interest in 3d gaming on the phone, so the 3d capabilities of the Hummingbird hold little interest for me. YMMV.
not today been sittin at home just texting mostly and some pandora and a homerun challenge orcourse and a few auto syncs
It really is up to you. Both are great phones. Personally I would go with the Evo. I wouldn't mind having the Samsung either though.
AFAIK all the Galaxy phones have been rooted no? Rooting the Epic shouldn't be much harder. Since the Evo has had such good development and a little experience with WiMax, should be easy to port over that development.
I am mulling over the same decision right now...
The big drawback for me is the display on the Epic... while it is true it is S-AMOLED and should provide more vibrant colors and such, the display itself is subject to burn in (not as much as AMOLED but still there) and the tech they use in the display makes it like half the effective resolution of what it really is... I can't remember the name of it right now... Its somewhere on the forums. I have seen a Galaxy S screen next to my Evo and its vibrant and bright but my Evo (Epson panel) is easier to see outdoors and text is much crisper on it.
Second, its a Samsung. I have never liked a single Samsung product I've tried from their TVs to their cell phones. While I would like to have a physical keyboard, the lack of support Samsung gives to their products sucks.
Third, yes the hummingbird and SGX540 absolutely spank everything else on the market right now... but dual-core snapdragons are coming and so is Tegra2. I would rather wait and see what happens than just jump from a phone that's working perfectly fine to another one with better specs... Only to kick myself in the balls come Christmas time.
Lastly, Sprint chopped the 16GB of storage to 2GB in their version which kills a main selling point for me. Internal storage tends to be much faster than a microSD card of ANY size.
The cyanogenmod will never be on the Galaxy S.
The Galaxy S will never be as snappy as the Evo.
And yes the hummingbird processor is much better than snapdragon and yes it does do graphics much better, but I'm running PSX4Droid right now FF7 maxed out what else more do you want from a phone lol...
Have fun supporting PS2 graphics...too bad nobody is developing anything and good luck when the phone comes out rooting / flashing custom roms.
But hey the phone is great you wouldn't be wrong getting it either but currently the evo looks better.
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The cyanogenmod will never be on the Galaxy S.
The Galaxy S will never be as snappy as the Evo.
And yes the hummingbird processor is much better than snapdragon and yes it does do graphics much better, but I'm running PSX4Droid right now FF7 maxed out what else more do you want from a phone lol...
Have fun supporting PS2 graphics...too bad nobody is developing anything and good luck when the phone comes out rooting / flashing custom roms.
But hey the phone is great you wouldn't be wrong getting it either but currently the evo looks better.
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When did Cyanogen say he won't release for the Galaxy S? Its a HUGE market base for Android since EVERY carrier will have a variant...
EDIT: Looking at the various Galaxy forums it looks like a community FroYo isn't going to be easy since the hardware info won't even boot in the emulator... Guess you're right.
But one more reason to get the Epic - it supports a crap ton of codecs out of the box and won't require most video files to be converted unlike the Evo.
Samsung is notorious for not supporting their devices after launch. Just look at Behold II users, Samsung promised 2.0/2.1 on video, then later pulled the video to remove any evidence of them saying that.
It's a great phone, just don't expect it to be supported down the road.
I think I'm kind of having sellers remorse, even though I sold it for $200 with it having some cosmetic damage (i'm usually very careful with my phones but i dropped my N1 like 1000 times!!)
i actually feel like I ripped off the guy even though it was in perfect working order and i threw in my extra battery and a car charger...
im gonna miss my trackball and colored notifications... PLEASE DONT LET ME REGRET THIS LG!!!
using an extremely old Nokia 5300 I had back in '07 till I get it ... yeah serious sellers remorse kicking it right now! hah
You will regret it!
Get the Arc instead
I don't think I could ever let go of my N1. I feel like it's become a part of me!
No doubt about it, sooner or later I will feel the need to upgrade. That's just the way technology works. But I always like to have a secondary device to fall back on in case of any problems - if my main device gets lost, stolen, damaged - even if it's just so much as a dead battery and I desperately need to make a call. Having a second phone can be a life saver. Plus, the Nexus One is so versatile in terms of modding. With so many ROM's to choose from, and still quite a bit of active development within the community - this phone seems far from dead. Google created an amazing piece of technology, and even when their sales strategy may have flopped, those who have had the pleasure of owning one know just how special it really is.
I recently parted ways with my aging HTC Magic which I kept as my backup device, so maybe I'm subconsciously considering an upgrade after all. There are so many options now, I wouldn't even know where to begin. G2X, Atrix, Nexus S, Evo 3D, etc... But one thing's for sure - my Nexus One is far too important to me to let go of.
I wish you the best of luck! And hey, you could always buy another used N1 if you begin having Nexus withdrawals
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You will regret it!
Get the Arc instead
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Why exactly?
All plastic
Very low loudspeaker
Freezings and random reboots
not so good 8mp
Dual core still need OS 2.4, it's still 2.2
Arc:
So stylish!
way louder speaker than N1 and optimus 2x
unlockable bootloader soon
Brilliant 8mp
Exellent bravia screen
OS 2.3 out of the box
Sweet price
I am getting one next tuesday
And will get the Sensation in September
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All plastic
Very low loudspeaker
Freezings and random reboots
not so good 8mp
Dual core still need OS 2.4, it's still 2.2
Arc:
So stylish!
way louder speaker than N1 and optimus 2x
unlockable bootloader soon
Brilliant 8mp
Exellent bravia screen
OS 2.3 out of the box
Sweet price
I am getting one next tuesday
And will get the Sensation in September
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Link to the Arc?
Bloodflame said:
I don't think I could ever let go of my N1. I feel like it's become a part of me!
No doubt about it, sooner or later I will feel the need to upgrade. That's just the way technology works. But I always like to have a secondary device to fall back on in case of any problems - if my main device gets lost, stolen, damaged - even if it's just so much as a dead battery and I desperately need to make a call. Having a second phone can be a life saver. Plus, the Nexus One is so versatile in terms of modding. With so many ROM's to choose from, and still quite a bit of active development within the community - this phone seems far from dead. Google created an amazing piece of technology, and even when their sales strategy may have flopped, those who have had the pleasure of owning one know just how special it really is.
I recently parted ways with my aging HTC Magic which I kept as my backup device, so maybe I'm subconsciously considering an upgrade after all. There are so many options now, I wouldn't even know where to begin. G2X, Atrix, Nexus S, Evo 3D, etc... But one thing's for sure - my Nexus One is far too important to me to let go of.
I wish you the best of luck! And hey, you could always buy another used N1 if you begin having Nexus withdrawals
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This is true, this was actually going to be the first smartphone I kept before/after buying a new one but I JUST moved and rather make my new phone free (I qualify for a full upgrade) so I can put that towards some new furniture. 200 isn't a lot, but it can get me a kitchen table!
vegetaleb said:
All plastic
Very low loudspeaker
Freezings and random reboots
not so good 8mp
Dual core still need OS 2.4, it's still 2.2
Arc:
So stylish!
way louder speaker than N1 and optimus 2x
unlockable bootloader soon
Brilliant 8mp
Exellent bravia screen
OS 2.3 out of the box
Sweet price
I am getting one next tuesday
And will get the Sensation in September
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Hmmm, sounds tempting but probably not available for T-Mobile USA users!
and I am DEFINITELY not going to keep using this dumb phone any longer than I have to...
Here's the official page:http://www.sonyericsson.com/cws/products/mobilephones/overview/xperiaarc?cc=us&lc=en#view=overview
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Hmmm, sounds tempting but probably not available for T-Mobile USA users!
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Here's the official page:http://www.sonyericsson.com/cws/products/mobilephones/overview/xperiaarc?cc=us&lc=en#view=overview
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Sadly, according to the specs listed, this does not appear to support TMO's 3G.
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c'mon Sony, post the CPU and GPU on the specs page, wtf?
Is the "BE" picture/video enhancements realtime or post-processing ?
Arc looks nice but "1GHz Scorpion processor, Adreno 205 GPU, Qualcomm MSM8255 Snapdragon"
sorry no thanks...
Im probably gonna get g2x because of all the bands it supports. I think it will make a great travel phone too once unlocked.
It is just the "plain old" 1GHz MSM8255 / Adreno 205. While still sufficient for most uses, it is hardly a cutting edge.
But the biggest problem in my view is the internal flash storage, just a tiny 320mb.
It should be perfect otherwise to make me want one. But it isn't.
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I think I'm kind of having sellers remorse, even though I sold it for $200 with it having some cosmetic damage (i'm usually very careful with my phones but i dropped my N1 like 1000 times!!)
i actually feel like I ripped off the guy even though it was in perfect working order and i threw in my extra battery and a car charger...
im gonna miss my trackball and colored notifications... PLEASE DONT LET ME REGRET THIS LG!!!
using an extremely old Nokia 5300 I had back in '07 till I get it ... yeah serious sellers remorse kicking it right now! hah
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I feel ya. I just listed my Nexus on ebay today, and I am getting the LG. Probably buying it outright for 499 so I can sell it when something else strikes me in about 8 months, however I will miss my N1 for sure. The N1 is a great phone.
Don't regret it. Going from a Nexus One to a T Mobile GX2 is a definite upgrade. You're getting a bigger screen, faster processor, better camera on the back, front facing camera, more responsive touchscreen that supports multitouch, and a faster 3G/4G radio for HSPA+, and the phone will have AT&T 3G/4G bands....you made a good choice....
I'm also considering the G2X, but probably just save up and buy it outright and keep my N1 as a backup.
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You should be fine with that upgrade...keep us posted on how it did compare to your N1.
I would probably consider the G2X if it had a screen superior to my Nexus One. It may be better in every way (minus build quality I assume), but I'm a screen whore.
My next phone will probably be a Samsung one. Yes, they may be bad when it comes to updates, but they've been kicking ass with hardware. Until someone beats this, everyone has lost. Just kidding everyone~
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I would probably consider the G2X if it had a screen superior to my Nexus One. It may be better in every way (minus build quality I assume), but I'm a screen whore.
My next phone will probably be a Samsung one. Yes, they may be bad when it comes to updates, but they've been kicking ass with hardware. Until someone beats this, everyone has lost. Just kidding everyone~
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Oddly enough I've got a N1 and a Samsung Galaxy S 4G in front of me, and the N1 has whiter whites than the Galaxy S. Everything was turned on max brightness, too. I was a bit taken back, I was expecting the galaxy S to have blown it out of the water.
The only thing that sucks hard about our N1 is the fact that the actual LED screen is a couple millimeters below the glass. This makes pinpoint clicking a bit tougher at odd angles, in addition to all the extra glare/reflection from the extra layer of space between the glass and LED.
Sorry, but as an N1, vibrant, 4g vibrant owner, Samsung has done hardware justice. The samoled is just the bomb. I just wish the updates came on time as it were.
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This would fall under "General" or "Q&A" but we all know that no one clicks on those tabs anymore, in addition this has a little to do with development. Seeing that the mt3gs is ancient in smartphone years and that our major developers have moved on, I figured we could start a comparison thread. Before I start I would like to thank all the teams that worked hard for all of us to better enjoy the "slide"; Team Cyanogen, Arrayray, CR, CM, Guitarist, Highly Medicated so on and so on. (if I missed anyone its not personal your work is also appreciated.) With that being said its time to discuss what's next..
I myself am almost due for an upgrade and would like the communities opinion on where to go next. Right now I have two options MyTouch 4G Slide versus HTC Sensation. So far the advantage of mt4gs is the awesome camera software and hardware, but lacks in the screen section which is not qHD. I'm open to discussion and opinions, also if there is any other phone you'd like to mention please do so.
It would be nice to get a mt4gs since a lot of our devs went that route and I'd be able to keep following them but I seen some nice development in the Sensation community as well. Any opinions?
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I have seen them both and I have to say the sensation is one of the best phones I have ever seen. It has a beautiful design and a really clear camera with 1080p HD camera. If you ask me, id go with the sensation. But that's only my opinion, in the end its all down to personal perspective. Whether you like a slide out keyboard or you like having a large screen. It all depends what you like.
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This would fall under "General" or "Q&A" but we all know that no one clicks on those tabs anymore, in addition this has a little to do with development. Seeing that the mt3gs is ancient in smartphone years and that our major developers have moved on, I figured we could start a comparison thread. Before I start I would like to thank all the teams that worked hard for all of us to better enjoy the "slide"; Team Cyanogen, Arrayray, CR, CM, Guitarist, Highly Medicated so on and so on. (if I missed anyone its not personal your work is also appreciated.) With that being said its time to discuss what's next..
I myself am almost due for an upgrade and would like the communities opinion on where to go next. Right now I have two options MyTouch 4G Slide versus HTC Sensation. So far the advantage of mt4gs is the awesome camera software and hardware, but lacks in the screen section which is not qHD. I'm open to discussion and opinions, also if there is any other phone you'd like to mention please do so.
It would be nice to get a mt4gs since a lot of our devs went that route and I'd be able to keep following them but I seen some nice development in the Sensation community as well. Any opinions?
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Agreed, on both posts, I do have a long time before I can upgrade (got this as a gift) but i figure I will jus pay cash for one from like amazon.com or something! and The Sensation is Absolutely hands down the best Android Phone to date! HOWEVER, while I am still a slide user, i will develop for it proudly!
Just got a 4g slide today and am liking it the way it is so far. I HATED sense on my 3g slide but Sense 3.0 is much better IMO. Camera is awesome as well. I need the hard keyboard so my choice was easy.
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Thank you guys for your opinions and input. I went and demo'd both phones today and I found something interesting.. the HTC Sensation is shipped with 2.3.3 while the mytouch 4G slide ships with 2.3.4. When I checked for an update on the sensation nothing showed up. Im sure they'll have the update soon
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The update for the sensation is being pushed out as we speak lol
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The update for the sensation is being pushed out as we speak lol
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Nice!
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Thx for the mention, but i feel like all i did was get people's toes wet concerning gingerbread with sense. Really wish i had time to do more for everyone. Thankfully team medicated worked hard to bring a working gingerbread rom for us.
As far as a new phone, its almost scary to buy a new phone knowing something better will be out in 6 months or so and we're stuck with that phone for another 18 months. Personally, i've looked so many times at other phones that i think the store reps know my face by now lol. I just cant bring myself to spend hundreds of dollars to get with the hottest handset. Its tough, but waiting till im due for a full discount on a new handset. Im really intreaged to see what google's next handset is going to be. It should be out by mid 2012. I just hope its better than the nexus s. Lets face it, nexus one blew us away, but the nexus s was a bit of a let down. A beautiful handset, i just expect a google phone to be the best out there.
Personally, at the start, i really hated the Slide and was getting disappointed that i even bought it. It's only thanks to developers here that had the SalsaSlide made possible that i've actually started enjoying using it.
As for a new phone, i don't run after technology, i've learned that it's a losing race and if my phone keeps working, then i see no reason of upgrading it just for saying i have the latest. What can i say, i'm not an apple fanatic that will rush to spend hundreds just to get the exact same phone in white
Anyway, if i'll be fully honest with you guys, once they get Android on the Fuze as native OS. I'd probably be switching to it, so instead of upgrading i'd be downgrading
Guitarist you deserve to be credited, in my opinion you introduced gingersense to the slide which gave devs the jumpstart to want to incorporate sense back into roms. Thanx again. Undoubtedly there will always be another smarter phone that's just how it goes. I also understand Sefy also, it is not only money draining to keep up with the latest handset but it is a bit cliche for that matter. (my secondary is still an iPhone 3gs, never upgrading my Apple handset)
Speaking of phones dropping in 2012, I stumbled upon an article earlier that's a game changer for Google. Google has agreed to buy Motorola mobility for 12.5 billion. Here's the article
http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20110815-708280.html
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I've been using a G2x since June. I do miss the slide's community though. Not that it should really affect what phone you get.
I decided that now that I have a phone with not just one, but two 1ghz cores I can rest, haha. I hate looking at the G2x forums though, at least general anyways. It's full of trolls and rudeness, lol.
I kind of wish I had stuck it out a little longer and got the mt4gs and feel like I upgraded rather than just went to a new phone completely.
It IS fast though. I got lucky enough to not get one of the terrible ones.
Wow I felt like this a while ago and I am torn about getting a new phone when there are a lot of phones out there and its hard to choose what to get next. Mt4gs looks like a great phone and might jump ship to it.
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The developing community for the Slide slowed down a long time ago. I stopped really even checking back, haven't logged in for ages. I'm due for an upgrade on September 16th, and I'm DEFINITELY going for the HTC Sensation. The screen is bigger, super high resolution, 1080p video shooting, and better battery life. I liked having a physical keyboard with my Slide, but it is cumbersome as it makes the phone significantly thicker and heavier. On an MDPI device I would go for the hard keyboard, but on HDPI, ESPECIALLY qHD 4.3" screens, I have no problem typing on the screen's keyboard. It's worth the thinner and lighter phone. Plus, on the Sensation, almost the entire front of the phone is screen space. The mts4g seems to have a thick frame around the screen, especially on the top of it, which I don't like. Yeah, sure, the camera features of the mts4g are certainly attractive, but at least for me, since my Slide camera has been broken ever since I got the phone and I was never that big of a camera user to begin with, the Sensation is a MUCH better bet. Both phones are the same price.
I had the mt3gs since It's release, after much thought and consideration, I decided that like this forum it was dead, so I upgraded with the myTouch 4G Slide. I love it, the keyboard, the screen, the look and feel. It's just like I ran my mt3gs through an update machine and the MT4GS was the result. Although it doesn't have the giant 4.3 inch touch screen and while it is not a not a super light phone, I have had a great experience so far.
The camera, let's start there, fast, clear, macro settings better than any phone I've seen so far, don't believe me, my Google+ profile has a pic of a mosquito I took with no zoom. (Link on profile) the sweep shot, the HDR multi shot that layers different white balance shots up to get great definition and color in bright light, (backlit pics as well). The action shot and shutter (as long as the camera app is already open) is just as fast as they claim, but if not held very still can be just slightly blurred, but better still than most mid grade digital cameras on the market. The only thing keeping this camera from being an actual replacement it the lack of an optical zoom. Oh and night shots....they are pretty nice as well.
The screen, 3.7" inches, Super LCD, is crisp and clear, with resolution that has honestly impressed me. The best part? You have a screen that's big enough to enjoy watching videos on and you don't feel like your gonna break your thumbs trying to reach the screen's extremities. Although I do wish it was just a little larger when gaming.
The processor, a 1.2GHz Dual Core, Snapdragon, is a beautiful change from the 600mhz of the mt3gs, finally games and apps that none of us could enjoy like Gun Bros, Need for Speed, Dungeon Defenders, and Google Earth are smooth and flowing. Even Quadrant standard's video benchmarks are now enjoyable to watch.
The keyboard, which is the reason anyone wants the phone is quite different from it's predecessor's or any others I've seen or used. The buttons are almost flat and press very easily, almost too easily at first but after about a week of using it, it's almost a pleasure to use, just be careful of the back button when typing the letter 'M', I have lost several Facebook posts, even part of this post so far.
Sense 3.0 is beautiful but it and it's components eat up 3GB of the MT4GS 4GB of on-board storage and around 40% of its 768MB of RAM. And T-Mobile's removal of the 7 screen option and lockscreen shortcuts make it slightly frustrating.
Kid Zone is also a big annoyance, while it is a neat alternative lockscreen geared toward kids is built into sense and not exactly what I would make for a child.
The '4G' aspect is not quite all its claimed to be, in Pittsburgh averaging 3-4 Mbps, but is quite a bit more reliable than I would have thought. The GPS is fast to lock, till rooted it seems, and compass and multiple rotation sensors make it crazy accurate and very sensitive. This makes it great for gaming, almost as good as a gyroscope, if not slightly better in some aspects. And the Bluetooth 3.0 makes file pushes fast and simple. And the usb transfers at around 4MB/s making video upload easy.
The over all feel of the phone is awkward at first being just slightly thicker than the HTC glacier(MT4G) yet not as thick and stocky as the mt3gs, it has grown on me more everyday, and I am very happy I made this choice.
My over all rating of this phone would be a 4.5 out of 5, it is a beautiful piece of technology, and should be relevant for a while to come.
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Neanderthal, thanx for that beautiful review and sharing your personal experience with the mt4gs. I also must admit after I demo'd the handset I've been wanting it more and more.
Speaking of other phones, does anyone know if the Nokia N9 will work on tmobile? It's a sick piece of equipment and IS the best camera for smart phone. The UI is effin dope and from specs and reviews this phone is killer. Any help will be appreciated .. thanx again for all the input. If there are any other phones out there please post. (worthy of posting)
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You could always wait it out for the samsung hercules, nexus prime and htc ruby to show up. As far as i know they should all be hitting the market fairly soon. Just a suggestion
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I just replaced my wifes MTS (Warranty) with a MTS in red, she loves the phone with CM7 on it and she likes the keyboard all in total I have replaced the 2 mytouch slides 5 times through t-mobile due to hardware failure (Camera, Front buttons, and keyboard issues)
I however just ordered a G2x and it should be here today, I'm not going anywhere though, I have always liked the MTS though it has not been a reliable phone CM7 Makes it so much better. One of the reasons I got a G2x is it has Vanilla android so I will get updates faster (More likely than phones with Sense)
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I just replaced my wifes MTS (Warranty) with a MTS in red, she loves the phone with CM7 on it and she likes the keyboard all in total I have replaced the 2 mytouch slides 5 times through t-mobile due to hardware failure (Camera, Front buttons, and keyboard issues)
I however just ordered a G2x and it should be here today, I'm not going anywhere though, I have always liked the MTS though it has not been a reliable phone CM7 Makes it so much better. One of the reasons I got a G2x is it has Vanilla android so I will get updates faster (More likely than phones with Sense)
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With the release of sense 3.0 it wouldn't surprise me if phones with sense got updates sooner. Either way thanks your input. Let us know how that G2X goes for you
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I just replaced my wifes MTS (Warranty) with a MTS in red, she loves the phone with CM7 on it and she likes the keyboard all in total I have replaced the 2 mytouch slides 5 times through t-mobile due to hardware failure (Camera, Front buttons, and keyboard issues)
I however just ordered a G2x and it should be here today, I'm not going anywhere though, I have always liked the MTS though it has not been a reliable phone CM7 Makes it so much better. One of the reasons I got a G2x is it has Vanilla android so I will get updates faster (More likely than phones with Sense)
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As a fellow G2x member, I say welcome! However to the updates, I'd have to say... Nope. We don't quite have Vanilla android... We waited a few months for Gingerbread and when we got it, it was "half-baked" and still not exactly Vanilla.
But the phone is a beast. Do enjoy it, cause I know I do.
And there's always rooting and roms.