ICS CM BUILD COMING SOON to galaxy tab 10.1 - Galaxy Tab 10.1 General

https://plus.google.com/10027530749...msvrx#100275307499530023476/posts/hVw7ykmsvrx
Said cyanogen!!

ck_looi said:
https://plus.google.com/10027530749...msvrx#100275307499530023476/posts/hVw7ykmsvrx
Said cyanogen!!
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Yes we've seen this. Just wondering. Where's the development part of this thread? This should be in general considering there isn't any development going on in here. Thanks.

task650 said:
Yes we've seen this. Just wondering. Where's the development part of this thread? This should be in general considering there isn't any development going on in here. Thanks.
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Agree post should be moved to General, but it's pretty exciting news to know an official CM build of ICS is imminent for our 10.1's ....

paulshields said:
Agree post should be moved to General, but it's pretty exciting news to know an official CM build of ICS is imminent for our 10.1's ....
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Also agree, except I never check general and wouldn't have known. This is definitely very good news. It's nice seeing my purchase decision affirmed by continued support, upgrades, etc.

Awesome News
Can't wait. At least I will get a little ICS on something, since the Galaxy Nexus only exists in our imagination and the UK.

Just saw it reposted on Android Police:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/11/21/aww-yea-cyanogen-ics-coming-soon-to-the-galaxy-tab-10-1/
I can't wait! Kondik made my whole week with that post!

This.
GarciaM25 said:
Just saw it reposted on Android Police:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/11/21/aww-yea-cyanogen-ics-coming-soon-to-the-galaxy-tab-10-1/
I can't wait! Kondik made my whole week with that post!
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Yeah it made my week too. I am really upset with Verizon, but that's not new, about the whole world having the Galaxy Nexus but not here. So, ICS on my Galaxy tab heals my wounds.

So hopefully in a couple of weeks we may see ICS on our tabs it will be great
Wondering if he will post here
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anyway to merge this with the two other ics posts in general...?

The only question that remains for me now is:
Which will come first: ICS on SGT10.1 or the Asus Transformer Prime?

I also hope they get flash working however limited its lifespan is i still visit a lot of sites that use flash
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animatechnica said:
I also hope they get flash working however limited its lifespan is i still visit a lot of sites that use flash
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flash is still going to be around bro. they have just stopped supporting mobile devices. we still have what is left behind and that will last us a lifetime.

task650 said:
flash is still going to be around bro. they have just stopped supporting mobile devices. we still have what is left behind and that will last us a lifetime.
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Adobe announced that they have one more build release to add support for 4.0, but that will be it (aside from standard bug and security fixes I suppose).
http://www.engadget.com/2011/11/21/flash-for-android-not-quite-dead-yet-will-land-on-ice-cream-san/
Who knows if this will change in the future, but if any Android release in the future breaks this compatibility that might be it for Flash on mobile devices altogether.

lostinbeta said:
Adobe announced that they have one more build release to add support for 4.0, but that will be it (aside from standard bug and security fixes I suppose).
http://www.engadget.com/2011/11/21/flash-for-android-not-quite-dead-yet-will-land-on-ice-cream-san/
Who knows if this will change in the future, but if any Android release in the future breaks this compatibility that might be it for Flash on mobile devices altogether.
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too many devs will make up for them leaving. dont worry about that. we will always have flash on our devices.

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ICS CM BUILD COMING SOON to galaxy tab 10.1
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Please show me where Steve stated that it is a CyanogenMod build. All he has said is that ICS is coming. Not CM9.
Also, this does not belong in the Development section. Double-fail.

gravis86 said:
Please show me where Steve stated that it is a CyanogenMod build. All he has said is that ICS is coming. Not CM9.
Also, this does not belong in the Development section. Double-fail.
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ICS CM build coming soon.
so, about that fail?

gravis86 said:
Please show me where Steve stated that it is a CyanogenMod build. All he has said is that ICS is coming. Not CM9.
Also, this does not belong in the Development section. Double-fail.
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ICS CM build coming soon.
so, about that fail?
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You both fail.
The quote from Steve is
ICS on the Galaxy Tab 10.1 is pretty great. Coming soon to a CM mirror near you
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So no mention of "ICS CM build".. BUT why would the eventual build be on a CM mirror if it weren't actually a CM build?

|flyte| said:
You both fail.
The quote from Steve is
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So no mention of "ICS CM build".. BUT why would the eventual build be on a CM mirror if it weren't actually a CM build?
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Lol! i can't believe we are arguing over minute details. What are we politicians? Lets just all sit back and enjoy some ice cream sand which once it comes.... hats off to the CM team.
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How did I fail?? I quoted the title of this thread, and then said it was wrong.
|flyte| said:
You both fail.
The quote from Steve is
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So no mention of "ICS CM build".. BUT why would the eventual build be on a CM mirror if it weren't actually a CM build?
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Lol! i can't believe we are arguing over minute details. What are we politicians? Lets just all sit back and enjoy some ice cream sand which once it comes.... hats off to the CM team.
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It's actually a huge detail. I for one will be happy just to see ICS, but ICS will pale in comparison to CM9.

Why wouldn't it be a cm build? The only reason we don't have one right now was because of the source not being released for honeycomb and cm doesn't downgrade devices. Shoot, cyanogen now works for Samsung, so they'd have a business incentive to get ics on the gt10.1 fast (albiet unofficially) considering it's their flagship tablet.

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Honeycomb 3.0 Kernel Development

Urgent!! Android Honeycomb 3.0 Kernel Needed! Kenia and Chile in i9000 forums have done it. Actual Android 3.0 on galaxy S. We need a compatible kernel. Anyone interested?
Link to the New Honeycomb 3.0 Thread!! It's Real!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1116161
All I see in that forum is Sense 3.0 being ported over to the galaxy S... not Android 3.0... besides, no source for Android 3.0 has been outed yet because "its not ready yet" according to Google.
Considering that there is no Honeycomb sources, they're probably just using my kernel to boot it (same as they are doing for the sense roms).
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I see HONEYCOMB in the air guys!!!!
Maybe tonight!!
by K&C!!
STAY TUNED and LOOK AT THE NEW THREAD tonight before going to bed...
PS K&C stands for Kenia and Chile!! LOL
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Kenia1234 said:
I already did it...
testing and uploading right now...
PS Thanks to the powerful kernel of Chile of course!!
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From the mouth of the Creators themselves!!
Escapist! I think its time to work your serious magic tonight. hahah.
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I thought Honeycomb was for tablets? ... why would we want it on our Captivates?
redeuxx said:
I thought Honeycomb was for tablets? ... why would we want it on our Captivates?
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This is android man. The answer to all "why" questions is because we can!
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Link to their honeycomb thread in Original Post.
insaneturbo13 said:
This is android man. The answer to all "why" questions is because we can!
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But it would be pointless since none of the phone functions work. Now if I can get Honeycomb with working phone functions then I'll take that, but until then -- not interested.
Ice Cream > Honeycomb
Kyuta Syuko said:
But it would be pointless since none of the phone functions work. Now if I can get Honeycomb with working phone functions then I'll take that, but until then -- not interested.
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Im pretty sure once they figure out data on their sense rom then theyll be that much closer to data on honeycomb also.
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Ice Cream > Honeycomb
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haha well once you begin to port Ice Cream to captivate then go and talk all the crap you want about honeycomb. Until that time has come, we should sit back and enjoy this year old device's constant development. The grass is always greener!
C'mon guys... Yeah, this'll probably never be a usable ROM, just like the Sense port, but it's cool as hell that they can even get it to boot. Let us nerds enjoy it .
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C'mon guys... Yeah, this'll probably never be a usable ROM, just like the Sense port, but it's cool as hell that they can even get it to boot. Let us nerds enjoy it .
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plus, the sgs touch rom makers may think this is pretty neat, make voodoo run on this and make it into a honeycomb mp3 player
+1 for the honeycomb player
You don't need a kernel. Everything is broken anyway.. the i9000 kernel will do for now.
any news for captivate?
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any news for captivate?
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Yes, Honeycomb is designed for tablets. Enjoy the hard work the devs have put into the Froyo/Gingerbread ROMS and wait patiently for Ice Cream Sandwich sometime in the future.
http://phandroid.com/2011/06/20/android-3-2-detailed-supports-7-inch-displays-qualcomm-cpus/
That's good news it will support smaller displays 7 is a lot closer to 4.3 then before
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its funny how everyone was b**ching about froyo taking too long....then people couldn't wait for GB. Now that its been leaked and is working for our phone, people want honeycomb.
can anyone be happy with what they have? just curious - lol

Official MIUI for i9100 being released this week.

The Galaxy S II is now being officially supported by MIUI China and is due to be released this month.
we have taken i9100 into consideration, it's within the plan now
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MIUI for SGSII will probably be released within a month, the final date depends on feedback of the beta testing team. ^_^
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Personally I think this is amazing news after bmarko unfortunately ceased his brilliant work on the port.
Source: https://www.facebook.com/miuiromchina/posts/225703197489263
Update: https://www.facebook.com/miuiromchina/posts/226600437399539
Wow! Finally! W
You mean teamhacksung successfully get the main parts working to a stable level, then entirely unrelated MIUI decide to officially support it?
Wow, didn't see that coming!
Great news! It's nice to be officially supported.
Not to be negative, but i dont trust until i can touch with hands
oinkylicious said:
You mean teamhacksung successfully get the main parts working to a stable level, then entirely unrelated MIUI decide to officially support it?
Wow, didn't see that coming!
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You mean we are all 12 yr old and this is a pissing contest?
Wow, didn't see that coming!
Cant we all just be happy instead start a flaming discussion?
It's annoying how little sense of sharing there is on these forums considering this is all open source stuff though. Why make disparaging comments about a developer? If you don't like MIUI you don't have to use it, and it's not like they don't give credits and said from day1 that their code is based on CM7...
Never mind, I am blind :+
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It's annoying how little sense of sharing there is on these forums considering this is all open source stuff though. Why make disparaging comments about a developer? If you don't like MIUI you don't have to use it, and it's not like they don't give credits and said from day1 that their code is based on CM7...
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Oh of course.
http://www.google.com/search?q=CM7+site:http://www.miuiandroid.com
http://www.google.com/search?q=cyanogen+site:http://www.miuiandroid.com
http://www.google.com/search?q=cyanogen+site:http://en.miui.com (trying to find anything outside the guestbook aka user posted comments - nothing)
I found only that:
MIUI Official Site, China Original Android ROM Development Team
Copyright © 2011 MIUI, All Rights Reserved
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so, where are those official credits you're talking about?
It's common knowledge, but there's no credits. In fact, I can't find any of the link to the source of the GPL binaries MIUI provides. Care to link me to that as well?
Thanks
Every developer of every MIUI rom I've ever used always gave credits to CM in their threads, thats good enough for me. If that's not to your satisfaction perhaps you should get a job at Apple and develop for iOS, I'm sure it will satisfy your need to see your work not being used by anyone to further advance the functionality of your device.
I have to say that it's a good good good new!
I had tried the Weekly-i9100-1.10.10 but sadly got wifi problem. That's why I had to reverse to my old rom.
Hope the official one could fix that.
Everythings else is just too good for me, especially the themes, I've already missed them...
Great news!
The link from Twitter in OP says:
Good news! MIUI for Incredible S is coming this Friday!!
None of the Miui sites tells that SGS II will be supported or I didnt look enough.
Great news, but I always found 1.9.2 as stable as a rock! Never had 1 problem with it.
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this week!..... O..M..G...
Any news on when exactly?
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MIUI ROM
MIUI for SGSII will probably be released within a month, the final date depends on feedback of the beta testing team. ^_^
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Topic starter -1
Aditya Kumar Jha
As u said SGS II will launch this friday but on official website only HTC Incredible S is going to be official this friday. So when u r planning to launch for SGSII. Please reply
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MIUI ROM I didn't say it will launch this Firday! Sorry!
2 ч. назад · Мне нравится
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Any news on when exactly?
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A month from now..kinda
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ICS Source code is AOSP

Google just dropped ICS to AOSP in case you didnt yet know. Hope to see some roms soon
http://androidapproved.com/item/ice-cream-sandwich-source-code-is-now-aosp-custom-roms-in-3-2-1-go/
Ahhhhhhhhh yeaaaaaaaaaa
I cannot wait. Yeahh booooyyyyy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wooooo!! )))
HTC Thunderbolt & ASUS Transformer Rooted!
**** JUST GOT REAL!
Cant wait to see what talented developers are gonna do with this, and with the new B70+ root, we should see more devs
The source is still getting pushed, it seems to be insanely large. I hope we see a CM9 build soon
KMyers said:
The source is still getting pushed, it seems to be insanely large. I hope we see a CM9 build soom
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If the devs were REALLY any good, they'd already be working on the source AS IT BEING PUSHED.
It's been at least two hours now and I'm getting impatient!
jhanford said:
If the devs were REALLY any good, they'd already be working on the source AS IT BEING PUSHED.
It's been at least two hours now and I'm getting impatient!
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you are joking yea lol
jhanford said:
If the devs were REALLY any good, they'd already be working on the source AS IT BEING PUSHED.
It's been at least two hours now and I'm getting impatient!
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Then Start your own project. The tools are out there. The more users push.... the less motivation us Devs have.
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gojimi said:
Then Start your own project. The tools are out there. The more users push.... the less motivation us Devs have.
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I think you missed the invisible </s> tag...
It doesn't matter... I know he was joking... you know he was joking... but the 1000 noobs that are going to come once word spreads...... that's a different story. And posts like these only serve to muddy the waters. My 2 cents as a Dev.
That was only worth 1 cent. Where is my change?
Today is a very very awesome day !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
NO MORE ISOLATION FOR US HONEYCOMB USERS
More apps more stability more customization and maybe just maybe cm9 im so happy
Also i think icecream will be alot nicer for the devs to mod atleast when it comes to tablets. In saying that though what roach has done with prime is amazing and i cant wait to see what he can do with aosp!!!
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It doesn't matter... I know he was joking... you know he was joking... but the 1000 noobs that are going to come once word spreads...... that's a different story. And posts like these only serve to muddy the waters. My 2 cents as a Dev.
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Fair enough!
On a different note, I really hope it's called CM8 and not CM9... Has there been any official statement concerning the name?
Wow, it's been a whole 5 hours and still no ICS custom rom. What good is android if I can't get the newest version now?
Off to the ipad 2 I go!
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The article I read said cm9
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ChristoA1 said:
Fair enough!
On a different note, I really hope it's called CM8 and not CM9... Has there been any official statement concerning the name?
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It's CM9. CM8 would've been Honeycomb, but obviously the source was never released.
MaSt3rGrIfF said:
It's CM9. CM8 would've been Honeycomb, but obviously the source was never released.
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Parts of Honeycomb's source code was released with ICS.
pdc419 said:
The article I read said cm9
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There's a reason I asked for an official source ... I read an article yesterday that said Obama was pregnant with Palin's love child, but I haven't seen anything posted on rumors.gov...
On a more serious note, CM numbering has not matched Android versioning directly, but rather has been incremental, which is why I say that there's a chance the ICS version could be CM8, since a honeycomb version doesn't and won't exist.
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Galaxy Tab 10.1 will soon run on CyanogenMod 9 Ice Cream Sandwich

According to Mirolta Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 Tablet to get CyanogenMod 9 Ice Cream Sandwich soon..........
Catch the details here : http://mirolta.com/2011/11/25/samsu...to-get-cyanogenmod-9-ice-cream-sandwich-soon/
We know. Welcome to 4 days ago.
muterobert said:
we know. Welcome to 4 days ago.
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+1
10101010101010
He said soon but how soon is soon?
Klk450 said:
He said soon but how soon is soon?
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Cyanogenmod team blogged two months until cm9 release but alpha builds should be sooner.
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Is there any way to join in on the Alpha Builds?
mirolta
mineshrai said:
According to Mirolta Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 Tablet to get CyanogenMod 9 Ice Cream Sandwich soon..........
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When i look at your signature and some of your other posts, i'm getting the impression you are just promoting your website.
Man, I got excited for a second there. This is old news. ^^^they probably are just spamming for that website, and if this is the case why would anyone want to follow it if the news on there is this late.
eiro said:
When i look at your signature and some of your other posts, i'm getting the impression you are just promoting your website.
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BUSTED! nice one eiro.
kmmxracer said:
Man, I got excited for a second there. This is old news. ^^^they probably are just spamming for that website, and if this is the case why would anyone want to follow it if the news on there is this late.
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Even the site logo says the news will be late
"News behind every news"
First of all thanx to everyone for discussing here...... I have just posted about Galaxy 10.1 to get CM9 ICS very soon with a link to it. However some of our friends here are unhappy. I appreciate their feelings........Better work together in future...........
Thanks & Regards
I'm not usually one to flame so I will apologize, but people on these forums are very quick to pick up on spam and it just gets old after a wile. Everthing in your posts point to promoting your website. First of all, the site you reference(as if you are not a part of them) closely resembles your user name here on XDA, not to mention the link in you signature, O and your post count alone points to the fact that you are only here to do what we are insinuating. My post count may be low, but that's only because I actually read damn near all the information I need and don't need to ask dumb questions, unless I'm really stuck or over my head.
It just gets anoying to check these threads every day to find new news about ICS, to only find a new post with week old news. This also points to the fact you have not been reading around this fourm, or else you would know people would flame you for posting the same old stuff.
So I hope you got all the web hits you needed to do what ever it is you needed to do, but could we please keep the ICS talk not relating to development on the more replied/informative threads.
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Nicely said kmmxracer.
TBH it'd probably be worthwhile locking the thread, it only adds noise and confusion and clearly serves only to hoover up traffic for this guy' site.
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it should be called olds instead of news then
for wifi or 3g? or both?
farscope said:
for wifi or 3g? or both?
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Atm, the build seems only for the 7510, which is the WIFI Version. But don't worry, I suppose there will be a 3G version in the end
I don't understand why they don't just do it for the 7500, correct me if I'm wrong, but couldn't the Wifi Only people just run the 3G firmware without any consequences? It would be just like using a phone without your sim card in it wouldn't it?
Awesome
Fantastic news, can't wait.
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Atm, the build seems only for the 7510, which is the WIFI Version. But don't worry, I suppose there will be a 3G version in the end
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great news.. thx and looking forward for it..
crecsky said:
I don't understand why they don't just do it for the 7500, correct me if I'm wrong, but couldn't the Wifi Only people just run the 3G firmware without any consequences? It would be just like using a phone without your sim card in it wouldn't it?
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Atleast on Honeycomb they couldnt, theres was a wiicked battery drain when it kept looking for network or something like it. Also a lots of error with diffrent sync.

[RUMOR] Official Motorola ICS for Atrix 4G

I have spoke with some people from motorola and asked some questions related to general business but also for upgrading Atrix with ICS.
I'm pasting here some answers without mentioning names, I think that this may show that motorola is doing more than they are ready to publicly say in this moment. To be on safe side You can think about this as rumor.
On Software upgrades, I wasn't aware of an announcement regarding ICS and ATRIX. Although Motorola tends to announce what it will do, not what it won't do, it doesn't mean it won't happen. You may be right, but I don't know the current status... The challenge we have with ATRIX however is Webtop, the full linux OS which sits within Froyo/Gingerbread... I imagine this has delayed any comment. The ideal scenario would be to upgrade all phones to the latest software, and I see that almost all high-end (non web top) phones have had ICS upgrade confirmed.
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Official ics would probably suck too. Motorola would probably put blur on top of it.
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stumpyz9 said:
Official ics would probably suck too. Motorola would probably put blur on top of it.
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Agreed, but..... If they actually release a version of ICS for the atrix, it can be DEblurred and retain the webtop. So if one carrier actually releases ICS for the atrix we would be set..
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Agreed, but..... If they actually release a version of ICS for the atrix, it can be DEblurred and retain the webtop. So if one carrier actually releases ICS for the atrix we would be set..
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What we need are drivers, webtop and kernels, and they will give us these if this is true
thats a lie dude ;D
Motorola's problem in releasing ICS is not WebTop's fault, is nvidia's! they will not release ICS drivers and sources, not until motorola pays them some good money.
So, our hope for now is that motorola pays for ics on xoom and then make a "hacked driver" of it to the phones with tegra2....
Please close or more the thread to general.
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Us GB members JUST got the 2.3 update...
If we think optimisticly, then MAYBE 2014 could be a safe bet.
But ONLY if... - If Motorola are faster than usual
Son of a *****. I got really excited.
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somebody should move this thread away from this section and/or append "-RUMOR" to its name . I was having an heart attack.
Its been stated by Nivida that they will be releasing the ics drivers and binarys for there terga 2 and 3 chip sets in the new year. That thread was in the general section awhile ago. So we will get ics through other channels.
drvon said:
Its been stated by Nivida that they will be releasing the ics drivers and binarys for there terga 2 and 3 chip sets in the new year. That thread was in the general section awhile ago. So we will get ics through other channels.
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are we talking about 2011 or 2012 ?
OP,
wrong place dude, but who depends on Moto for ICS when you have some awesome devs in here ..
damn, i almost having a heart attack after reading this thread's title
da fuq
munchy_cool said:
are we talking about 2011 or 2012 ?
OP,
wrong place dude, but who depends on Moto for ICS when you have some awesome devs in here ..
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They had sad early 2012
Here's the post...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1371486
I'm not sure that drivers are anymore issue since we saw from google ICS
for xoom which is same platform as atrix.
guidoido004 said:
thats a lie dude ;D
Motorola's problem in releasing ICS is not WebTop's fault, is nvidia's! they will not release ICS drivers and sources, not until motorola pays them some good money.
So, our hope for now is that motorola pays for ics on xoom and then make a "hacked driver" of it to the phones with tegra2....
Please close or more the thread to general.
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What a tease!
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Sorry for tease it was not my intention, I just wanted to share some inside knowledge which I gain trough unofficial channels, anyway I will try to make it up for that
zexbig said:
Sorry for tease it was not my intention, I just wanted to share some inside knowledge which I gain trough unofficial channels, anyway I will try to make it up for that
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Perfectly acceptable titles:
- Unofficial information from Motorla regarding ICS for the Atrix
- I contacted Motorola regarding ICS for the Atrix, here's the answer
- If you were wondering about Motorola's stand on ICS for the Atrix, here it is
- So I decided to contact Motorola about ICS for the Atrix
Do you understand how the title is misleading enough for it to pass as obvious trolling? Don't apologize, just change the god damned title so people won't read it and get excited over some unofficial comments that do not really say ANYTHING at all about current development for the Atrix.
Thank you and have a good one.
hoodlikegaza said:
This does not belong in dev you IDIOT.
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I gave you a thanks for this post for being an outstanding contribution to humanity. If there were only more like you in the world, what a wonderful place it would be.
dicksteele said:
I gave you a thanks for this post for being an outstanding contribution to humanity. If there were only more like you in the world, what a wonderful place it would be.
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Why don't you give me thanks you idiot!?
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Since motorola needs to upgrade RAZR to ICS (they publicly committed that they will do it) it means that webtop will be rewrite for ICS so it's possible that they will
user webtop for RAZR in ICS for atrix.
Only after Google's control.

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