http://briefmobile.com/cyanogenmod-9-construction-under-way
Can't wait to see how well the atrix handles it!
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I can't wait!
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BUT is it for the Atrix? I havnt seen a offical Cynogen Mod for the ATrix yet
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BUT is it for the Atrix? I havnt seen a offical Cynogen Mod for the ATrix yet
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The Atrix is officially supported, in nightly builds. Stable build hasn't been accomplished yet.
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The Atrix is officially supported, in nightly builds. Stable build hasn't been accomplished yet.
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OSNPA, how is the boiled denim business treating you? also I wanna ride in your car and listen to Raise Your Weapon, I know it's really old but I still HAVE to hear it everyday lol.
Sorry to change the subject, well, really I'm not there are like 10 of these threads.
http://source.android.com/source/building-devices.html
Starting with IceCreamSandwich, the Android Open-Source Project can't be used from pure source code only, and requires additional hardware-related proprietary libraries to run, specifically for hardware graphics acceleration.
Official binaries for Nexus S, Nexus S 4G, Galaxy Nexus, and PandaBoard can be downloaded from Google's Nexus driver page, which add access to additional hardware capabilities with non-Open-Source code.
There are no official binaries for Nexus One, ADP2 or ADP1.
So, unless there's an official ICS release for the Atrix, it looks like we may be missing out on the default hardware acceleration. Thank god my upgrade comes up in Feb so I can get off this device and onto a Nexus device.
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OSNPA, how is the boiled denim business treating you? also I wanna ride in your car and listen to Raise Your Weapon, I know it's really old but I still HAVE to hear it everyday lol.
Sorry to change the subject, well, really I'm not there are like 10 of these threads.
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haha...the car hasn't made much progress, we spent a lot of time getting our house on the market and are looking to buy, so all of my free time has been for 'family and home stuff' Someday...
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http://source.android.com/source/building-devices.html
Starting with IceCreamSandwich, the Android Open-Source Project can't be used from pure source code only, and requires additional hardware-related proprietary libraries to run, specifically for hardware graphics acceleration.
Official binaries for Nexus S, Nexus S 4G, Galaxy Nexus, and PandaBoard can be downloaded from Google's Nexus driver page, which add access to additional hardware capabilities with non-Open-Source code.
There are no official binaries for Nexus One, ADP2 or ADP1.
So, unless there's an official ICS release for the Atrix, it looks like we may be missing out on the default hardware acceleration. Thank god my upgrade comes up in Feb so I can get off this device and onto a Nexus device.
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That sucks. Definitely going for the Galaxy Nexus when I can as well.
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That sucks. Definitely going for the Galaxy Nexus when I can as well.
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thats just another way of saying they dont support gfx drivers in the stock AOSP for other devices - nvidia still provides those for the tegra2, so it should sitll be possible to get hw acceleration on the atrix
its a shame that so many are forced to ditch perfectly capable hardware, simply because of software limitations. that is my initial reaction to the news in this thread.
Additionally, considering the new system for hardware acceleration, how could google release binaries for anything except their AOSP devices? Binaries for Tegra, or any other chipset manufacturer, will have to be made in conjunction with the manufacturer.
Not exactly good news for the Tegra; a very capable, very abandoned, hardware platform. Really didn't want to declare this device dead before its time as I've followed the Tegra since its earliest concepts. If the tegra doesn't get ICS i don't see how it the Kal El will even make a splash.
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its a shame that so many are forced to ditch perfectly capable hardware, simply because of software limitations. that is my initial reaction to the news in this thread.
Additionally, considering the new system for hardware acceleration, how could google release binaries for anything except their AOSP devices? Binaries for Tegra, or any other chipset manufacturer, will have to be made in conjunction with the manufacturer.
Not exactly good news for the Tegra; a very capable, very abandoned, hardware platform. Really didn't want to declare this device dead before its time as I've followed the Tegra since its earliest concepts. If the tegra doesn't get ICS i don't see how it the Kal El will even make a splash.
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Motorola announced ICS is coming to the Xoom which is a tegra device
Tegra will get ICS from the LG 2X and we'll probably get a port from there. That's the least of the worries.
Many additional drivers will also be needed such as GPS, FP, possibly Bluetooth and wifi...etc
Plus, no official release will, if true, means many bugs and hiccups. That's what I've been saying all along here in the ICS jerking threads.
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Motorola announced ICS is coming to the Xoom which is a tegra device
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Xoom uses a different Tegra 2 SoC than the Atrix. Our best chances come from G2X, Photon, and Droid 2X. Xoom uses Tegra 250 T20 whereas smartphones use Tegra 250 AP20H. Even then, it's going to be a hack-up job since they aren't the same devices. It will definitely not run as well as if we had an official ICS release.
EDIT: The reason why is that the driver + proprietary libraries needed for hardware acceleration are built for a specific kernel. We don't share kernels with those devices regardless of how similar the devices are. They'd have to compare the 2 different kernels (a 2.3.4 vs a 4.0.1 mind you) and try and merge in the differences necessary to get hardware acceleration working. All in all, it will be the Atrix running on a hacked up gingerbread kernel and drivers trying to run ICS.
Actually, they should be able to hack together and compile a ICS kernel with a mix of GB and ICS drivers. I've done it before for GB on the HTC aria.
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Actually, they should be able to hack together and compile a ICS kernel with a mix of GB and ICS drivers. I've done it before for GB on the HTC aria.
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I did say that. But the problem is that it just that, a hacked together kernel and gpu driver. radio, wifi, bluetooth, etc. will still be on GB drivers. It would never run as well as if we had native ICS drivers and kernel.
How bout we just wait and find out?
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How bout we just wait and find out?
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exactly, that's what we need.
optimism. it might look foolish to some but I really wish no one tries to undermine the atrix 4g community or any other phone community from trying to get ics.
i understand the truth due to the reasoning and it might look like a long shot but it doesn't hurt to stay optimistic.
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exactly, that's what we need.
optimism. it might look foolish to some but I really wish no one tries to undermine the atrix 4g community or any other phone community from trying to get ics.
i understand the truth due to the reasoning and it might look like a long shot but it doesn't hurt to stay optimistic.
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I could care less at this point. I'm getting a SGN the second my upgrade comes up in February. CM9 would only be at nightlies/alphas at that point and there's no chance that the Atrix would have ICS by february to help CM9 for the Atrix along.
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I could care less at this point. I'm getting a SGN the second my upgrade comes up in February. CM9 would only be at nightlies/alphas at that point and there's no chance that the Atrix would have ICS by february to help CM9 for the Atrix along.
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You must know all this since you know the future huh?
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http://www.facebook.com/motorola?sk=wall&filter=1 click the link people like it and comment on it.
I have seen first hand proof of this working. I had an evo 3d. Htc decided all futre devices would have locked bootliaders well that made alot of people angry. Someone posted a thread on xda suggesting we let htc know that is not gna fly. So it turnd out thousands of people got on there facebook wall and twitter. Guess what the next day htc released a statement saying that they wanted too keep there coustamers happy and that the bootloader would be unlocked. They were. Id like to be able too have a device and not have too get a new one juzt because moto or htc or sammy wants too put them out constantly get people too buy them and then ditch them and out out another. The atrix is 100 percent capable of runing ics and theres no excuae for it l not too recieve it just because moto wants people too buy new devices every couple months. I know many many people feel the same way well as i said we have the power too change that if people would stop bickering and take it seriously. And also if moto started supporting devices longer not just bug fixes but the new android flavors. Id definately make my next device a moto it would do nothing but benefit them
try and get as many people as you can too do the same. It will make a difference.
I'd wait until ICS is released. As things stand today, Atrix has the latest Android version available.
Yes that is correct how ever the atrix 2 is not a good sign for us. And it is a good idea too voice our oppinion before they stop supporting our phone if we do after really wouldnt have the same effect in my oppinion
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Yes that is correct how ever the atrix 2 is not a good sign for us. And it is a good idea too voice our oppinion before they stop supporting our phone if we do after really wouldnt have the same effect in my oppinion
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Yeah but the atrix 2 is a stepdown compared to atrix 1!
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It's running 2.3.7? Thats news to me, also have people not seen the leaked videos? It appears to have all on screen buttons. Like honeycomb. Not sure it would work on the atrix. The screen is already small enough
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The Atrix is really close to being officially supported by CM. Once ICS is released and the CM team makes their latest version (will be CM9) it will have ICS and will work with with the Atrix.
re: official CYyanogen support, do you know this officially or are you speculating?
not being rude, genuinely want to know
I have no doubt that the Atrix "could" handle ICS.
The Nexus S is rumored to get ICS, and that phone has half the muscle of the Atrix...
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.... i don't see what the idea of potentially spamming their facebook page will do (Didn't actually go to their facebook page... just read that's where your link was going to redirect). The phone is only 7 months old.... i'm fairly certain they're WELL AWARE that we want ICS. I mean wtf... look how much flak they got from every moron in the world when the Atrix was still running Froyo.
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.... i don't see what the idea of potentially spamming their facebook page will do (Didn't actually go to their facebook page... just read that's where your link was going to redirect). The phone is only 7 months old.... i'm fairly certain they're WELL AWARE that we want ICS. I mean wtf... look how much flak they got from every moron in the world when the Atrix was still running Froyo.
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They got tons of flak for promising gingerbread for the Motorola Milestone (gsm version of OG Droid) and then saying nevermind. Mind you, this was merely 1 year after the milestone came out as well. Gingerbread for the Atrix was inevitable. Not giving the Atrix gingerbread would be a PR disaster. What people fail to realise about a CM port of ICS to the Atrix is that if Moto decides to EOL the Atrix after only a year with no ICS upgrade, you lose out on updated drivers, kernel, and baseband. Sure we'd have ICS, but it won't run as well as a phone that natively has ICS.
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They got tons of flak for promising gingerbread for the Motorola Milestone (gsm version of OG Droid) and then saying nevermind. Mind you, this was merely 1 year after the milestone came out as well. Gingerbread for the Atrix was inevitable. Not giving the Atrix gingerbread would be a PR disaster. What people fail to realise about a CM port of ICS to the Atrix is that if Moto decides to EOL the Atrix after only a year with no ICS upgrade, you lose out on updated drivers, kernel, and baseband. Sure we'd have ICS, but it won't run as well as a phone that natively has ICS.
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You mean Froyo for the Milestone. They had to release it since they advertised flash on the box.
However the Froyo update basically killed the Milestone. Even Motorola put out a disclaimer that basically said the upgrade may cause performance issues.
The memory on the Milestone was perfect for eclair, but Froyo gave it a brain freeze...
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I have no doubt that the Atrix "could" handle ICS.
The Nexus S is rumored to get ICS, and that phone has half the muscle of the Atrix...
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Half the muscle? The humming bird chipset is far superior than the tegra. Just not clocked as fast. And the exynos chipset blows the tegra 2 out of the water.
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Half the muscle? The humming bird chipset is far superior than the tegra. Just not clocked as fast. And the exynos chipset blows the tegra 2 out of the water.
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Still the Atrix has the extra core which is supposed to be optimized in ICS, plus double the ram over the Nexus S...
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I was not implying spamm there pages i meant voice our oppinion let moto know theres alot of people who like this device and we want them to continue its support. And if they do that would really be. In there favor id most likely choise moto for my next device
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You mean Froyo for the Milestone. They had to release it since they advertised flash on the box.
However the Froyo update basically killed the Milestone. Even Motorola put out a disclaimer that basically said the upgrade may cause performance issues.
The memory on the Milestone was perfect for eclair, but Froyo gave it a brain freeze...
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Not so much
Froyo runs great on my Milestone, I heard GB makes it very sluggish
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Not so much
Froyo runs great on my Milestone, I heard GB makes it very sluggish
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Froyo was the reason why I sold my Milestone. Eclair was smoothly, and for whatever reason I could never flash back to Eclair. Every time I tried going back, I got forced closed errors everywhere.
If the Milestone had 512mb of ram, I probably would still be using it since I really liked the build quality of that phone...
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I guess Milestones handled the OS differently than other
Guys. The atrix is getting ICS.
Chill
god if ics is any better than the ics launcher in the market ill bee in heaven
cause this launcher is sweet
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There you have it folks, sit tight and wait for Nvidia. Once we have all the required drivers, we are set I hope this settles everyone down.
Please let me know if this thread is in the wrong place, but i think it's best in General (also makes a nice change from MIUI begging )
NVIDIA has been working with Google and Motorola to provide the open source community with the required drivers and other binary code to build full Android OS images for the Tegra 2 powered "Motorola Xoom". We expect Google to make those components available as part of the Android Open Source Project soon.
In addition, NVIDIA is working on a full release of Ice Cream Sandwich (ICS) for our Tegra 2 Dual Core and Tegra 3 Quad Core reference devices to be made available early next year. This release package will comprise of binary code, drivers developed on our reference platforms and any patches necessary to ensure stability & performance with ICS. We hope the open source community can leverage this release for their work on all Tegra devices.
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That's great news!
Thanks for sharing
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That's great news!
Thanks for sharing
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Couldn't believe it at first! I checked here to confirm it was true but there was no thread, so i decided to share the good news! I was worrying that our device was being forgotten about, but i guess the real fun starts early 2012!
Hooray!
Awesome news! I'm gonna have this phone for at least another 18 months, so this is very encouraging!
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Bumping this so people will stop worrying/complaining about Nvidia and Motorola.
Also, IF Moto release ICS with blur and without webtop, would you go for it? I personally would, but i know some of you people love webtop.
Tegra kernal here:
http://nv-tegra.nvidia.com/gitweb/?p=linux-2.6.git
btw another proof:
https://plus.google.com/115049428938715274412/posts/KycR8ZjeUiS
Does this mean full cm7 and MIUI support? Or is it mainly for ICS?
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Tegra kernal here:
http://nv-tegra.nvidia.com/gitweb/?p=linux-2.6.git
btw another proof:
https://plus.google.com/115049428938715274412/posts/KycR8ZjeUiS
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Where do you see any proof? Newest kernel is for 3.2. Btw we need binaries and drivers.
Great news now let's hope they do it in a timely manner
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Bumping this so people will stop worrying/complaining about Nvidia and Motorola.
Also, IF Moto release ICS with blur and without webtop, would you go for it? I personally would, but i know some of you people love webtop.
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I would as long as it has landscape hdmi mirror on the lapdock.
Yay for hardware acceleration and true cm9!
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Yay for hardware acceleration and true cm9!
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With landscape mirroring
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I may be wrong but aren't the drivers and libraries for tegra2 ics already available in AOSP. tegra2 is tegra2 there shouldnt be much difference between xoom and atrix same hardware bigger screen. But I could be off base so dont flame me LOL
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I may be wrong but aren't the drivers and libraries for tegra2 ics already available in AOSP. tegra2 is tegra2 there shouldnt be much difference between xoom and atrix same hardware bigger screen. But I could be off base so dont flame me LOL
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I think you are partially right, but as you said, the drivers are for the Xoom and every device has unique drivers. It would probably be too difficult and time consuming to use/hack the Xoom's drivers for the Atrix and everything will not be the same as having the actual Atrix files.
Hmm... I figured using xoom.Drivers would make it easy. What about the g2x? Its a phone which may eliminate hassles, with nearly the same specs, save for it not being moto.
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http://developer.nvidia.com/tegra-resources
Is this something we were waiting for? Or we need the source code?
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According to this https://plus.google.com/115049428938715274412/posts/9nb8sajTX18 (see comments after 23 january) nvidia should also publish some "reference code" in early 2012 which would be helpful
Has anyone recieved any news on the Tegra 2 and ICS?
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Has anyone recieved any news on the Tegra 2 and ICS?
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Give me a break!!!
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Has anyone recieved any news on the Tegra 2 and ICS?
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What the hell, man? You made me think there was real news!
I saw a thread on the rootzwiki.
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/10579-romalpha9-ics4bionic-12-18-2011/page__pid__257688#entry257688
The most common issue of ICS on the tegra 2 devices is no sound even in calling.
But it seems they fixed this problem. Is it useful for porting ICS on our device?
It would be a great starting point as the Bionic and the Atrix are very similar devices. The question will be who will take up the code and try and make it work with the atrix. I would think it would just take a talented moder
There is an ASOP ICS for the Xoom now too...
http://phandroid.com/2011/12/19/ice-cream-sandwich-aosp-build-compiled-for-the-motorola-xoom/
I think that will be soon. So let's hope our developers make a ICS ROM for our device.
I heard turl is workin on cm9, but hes having problems with the EGL binaries, unless motorola or nvidia release it, will be very hard to him work on it...
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I heard turl is workin on cm9, but hes having problems with the EGL binaries, unless motorola or nvidia release it, will be very hard to him work on it...
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Oh! How desperate when I herad u said that...
That means we'll never have ICS if the manufacturers does't release the code or driver?
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I heard turl is workin on cm9, but hes having problems with the EGL binaries, unless motorola or nvidia release it, will be very hard to him work on it...
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I just wondering is other tegra2 based ICS having same problem? (Whatever it is.. i dun hav any technical Knowledge abt it..) They released even having problem with EGL binaries? I mean bionic has almost same featured with atrix is. Except screen..
Just wanna see and experience ICS on ma atrix even if it is experimental and veeeeerrrryyy earlyyyyy alpha version.
I know i know many atrix devs workin harder to release it..
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I wanna know where I can see the progress of developing ICS ROM of our atrix-dev-team
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It would be a great starting point as the Bionic and the Atrix are very similar devices. The question will be who will take up the code and try and make it work with the atrix. I would think it would just take a talented moder
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The Bionic, at the last minute, was switched out to an OMAP4 processor, I believe. Probably for the LTE functionality. So they're aren't as similar as we would have liked them to be..
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The Bionic, at the last minute, was switched out to an OMAP4 processor, I believe. Probably for the LTE functionality. So they're aren't as similar as we would have liked them to be..
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Oops... I've made a mistake. So, the only method of getting ICS is wait for Nvidia or Moto to release the code. If they doesn't, we'll never taste the ICS
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I heard turl is workin on cm9, but hes having problems with the EGL binaries, unless motorola or nvidia release it, will be very hard to him work on it...
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Pretty sure by now turl has egl binaries. They are out there for tegra2 so he should be able to work with whats been released...
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Pretty sure by now turl has egl binaries. They are out there for tegra2 so he should be able to work with whats been released...
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WOW! How did you know that?
As I saw most of the devices had the ICS port, I worry about ICS not to come to our device.
Yeah, I was a bit disappointed that it seems progress has been made on most other Teg2 devices, but not the Atrix. I thought we'd hit a brick wall at EGL, but it seems those issues have been overcome on other ports...
Still, I suppose if I'm going to complain about the lack of progress, I should get my ass in gear and learn a few things about the inner duct-tape of Android and do it myself.
I've posted this a long time ago but people were too busy crying for MIUI. Nvidia have said they're releasing all ICS binaries for all their Tegra 2 and Tegra 3 devices next year. Tegra 2 binaries should be with us early next year with Tegra 3 ones following. They're also making available code related to Tegra 2 on ICS.
From Motorola's official blog
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You may be wondering why all devices aren’t being upgraded to Android 4.0 (Ice Cream Sandwich). Here’s the deal. We work very closely with Google and cell phone carriers for every software update. And, obviously we want the new release to improve our devices. If we determine that can’t be done—well then, we’re not able to upgrade that particular device.
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Hey man, 10x for the info.
Just one thing to Motorola: who gives a flying fu#$ what your crappy developers do with ICS??? Just release the stin%^g code and drivers for the Atrix and the great devs here will do so much better then whatever you could dream!
Anyhow I (and I guess that a lot of other users) am not going to install Moto's update, and will wait for the official CM9, and the only thing I'm waiting is the driver for the camcorder and a better kernel source.
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Hey man, 10x for the info.
Just one thing to Motorola: who gives a flying fu#$ what your crappy developers do with ICS??? Just release the stin%^g code and drivers for the Atrix and the great devs here will do so much better then whatever you could dream!
Anyhow I (and I guess that a lot of other users) am not going to install Moto's update, and will wait for the official CM9, and the only thing I'm waiting is the driver for the camcorder and a better kernel source.
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You didn't bought a lapdock recently at iandroid ?
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Hey man, 10x for the info.
Just one thing to Motorola: who gives a flying fu#$ what your crappy developers do with ICS??? Just release the stin%^g code and drivers for the Atrix and the great devs here will do so much better then whatever you could dream!
Anyhow I (and I guess that a lot of other users) am not going to install Moto's update, and will wait for the official CM9, and the only thing I'm waiting is the driver for the camcorder and a better kernel source.
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me too I won't install motorola's buggy update I like cm9
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It will be Jelly Bean by the time they release ICS.
Just motobabling to excuse their poor post-sale support.
Only sthing stopping me from using CM8 as a daily, is the camera issues. Video FC is still an issue i hear.
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Hey man, 10x for the info.
Just one thing to Motorola: who gives a flying fu#$ what your crappy developers do with ICS??? Just release the stin%^g code and drivers for the Atrix and the great devs here will do so much better then whatever you could dream!
Anyhow I (and I guess that a lot of other users) am not going to install Moto's update, and will wait for the official CM9, and the only thing I'm waiting is the driver for the camcorder and a better kernel source.
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Well the deal for them is that XDA Developpers is actually some kind of post-sale support for most of their products... And yes, they could release the drivers so the developpers can make better ROMs, I'm currently waiting for an update to install a custom Blur ICS ROM that could support my Lapdock, I'm not as angry as you but I only own the phone since 2 months, and it saved me from Windows Mobile's nightmare, also I'm waiting for a TRUE GPU driver for ICS (Some 2D apps just don't work). I totally agree with you Motorola sucks on this point.
They should admit they're not able to develop as much as jokersax
Me too. I wont updating when they release the official update. I prefer to wait for CM9.
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Lol, but there still will be hundreds of newbs who will update to it and get wonders crappy service and bricks...
That's a good thing.. as long as they come here and tell us about it lol
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If any other company said that, it would be valid. But lets ignore Motorola's track record for a second. Why the hell arent the Droid 3 and Droid X2 on that list? They're both effectively the same phone as the Atrix but with 512mb of ram. Even the cut ram should be enough to run considering the Nexus S and One V run it pretty well.
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If any other company said that, it would be valid. But lets ignore Motorola's track record for a second. Why the hell arent the Droid 3 and Droid X2 on that list? They're both effectively the same phone as the Atrix but with 512mb of ram. Even the cut ram should be enough to run considering the Nexus S and One V run it pretty well.
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Probably the same reason the the Bravo is only 2.2.1 and the Defy is 2.2.2 and Defy+ is 2.3.6. Oh and they both have 512mb of ram, same processor, and the biggest difference between the three is the camera module. Should I mention that the Droid2, DroidX, Cliq2, Milestone2, Bravo, Defy, and Defy+ are all almost the same phones with different camera modules, different radios, minor differences, and some happen to have a hw keyboard? They can all boot each others custom roms with some tweaking.
Its so we'll buy newer, better phones with updated systems.
And it is enough ram. My Bravo runs CM9 pretty damn smooth with almost no issues other than some flash problems. Damn locked bootloaders.
I'm putting the blame on MotoBlur. If the Nexus S can handle ICS, then the Atrix most certainly can...
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The Google-Motorola merger is supposed to finalized in the coming days. There is no reason for Google to continue MotoBlur development. Release the drivers and fire the entire software team or move them to Android development.
yeahmann said:
The Google-Motorola merger is supposed to finalized in the coming days. There is no reason for Google to continue MotoBlur development. Release the drivers and fire the entire software team or move them to Android development.
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Wait really.. That being true, ill go on the assumption that it is without googling it because I've no reason to doubt you, you're totally right. Unless google sees potential in this blur thing, and since they have their own social network they probably don't. But isn't the whole point of blur social integration? What's googles solution to that or do they feel its a non issue?
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yeahmann said:
The Google-Motorola merger is supposed to finalized in the coming days. There is no reason for Google to continue MotoBlur development.
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Blur will go away now Microsoft has reamed Motorola in court over it. Might take some time, but I don't see Google/Moto paying Microsoft anything in the long term to keep using it in the US.
Aww, but I liked the social parts of Blur! I also hated everything else about it. Don't suggest any third-party widgets, though.
this is a joke, even my htc tattoo is running on ics which has only 256 mb ram and 512 mb rom
I had sworn off non-Google phones after a couple of Samsung experiences, but the One is just so well-designed, I can't resist it. It's really the first Android phone which can compete with the iPhone in hardware design.
Now my question is, what happens when Google rolls out Android 5.0? Would vanilla Android be available quickly for the unlocked 32Gb and the 64 Developer edition? Is there any reason why it may not happen, or it may be difficult to do? Would the non-standard button layout throw a wrench in the OS upgrade possibilities?
I dont think so
If you buy the developer edition you can install plane lemon pie on it as it has the bootloader unlocked or any kind of ROM you want. On the Unlucked one you will need to wait until HTC releases the update as it also comes with thei Sense 5.0 UI.:laugh:
HTC have been saying they will be working a lot harder to get the latest updates out to their phones. And you can see as well in the One series that they have delivered to an extent.
Plus as the HTC One is their flagship device for this year, they will be putting all of their attention on it
As I would agree to this, without source code and binaries for the device I.E> sensors, bt, wifi, processor from HTC the dev edition wont just = instant updates to latest and greatest. Its just nice to see them least offering it up.
They don't even have 4.2 on the One, so I am assuming it would take them a long time to get KLP on the One.
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sidthegreatest said:
They don't even have 4.2 on the One, so I am assuming it would take them a long time to get KLP on the One.
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There's a reason why they did not got for 4.2. Here's a quick snip from Anandtechs amazing review
HTC says it went with 4.1 for both stability and time to market reasons, which I think is reasonable considering some of the 4.2.x issues people have complained about, though 4.2.2 fixes most of it. At this point it would be awesome to have 4.2, but for a smartphone the only features I miss are the notification shade settings and perhaps photosphere.
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There's a reason why they did not got for 4.2. Here's a quick snip from Anandtechs amazing review
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Not to mention Lock screen widgets.
But my point is not whether they CAN out 4.2 on their device, but the fact that they did not.
Samsung has 4.2 on the S4, while the SIII also has a leaked ROM. So, I would say that KLP would come to the One in Q4 of this year at the earliest.
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As I would agree to this, without source code and binaries for the device I.E> sensors, bt, wifi, processor from HTC the dev edition wont just = instant updates to latest and greatest. Its just nice to see them least offering it up.
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What is HTC's history in terms of offering source code and binaries for their hardware? (I haven't had an HTC since the WM days
I pre-ordered the 32GB unlocked, but now I am wondering if I jumped the gun and I should sit tight and wait for whatever the Next Nexus phone is? The only problem is, Google does not know how to drive good hardware design, and I really doubt the next Nexus will be as well designed or built.
For what it's worth, I love 4.2.2 on my Galaxy Nexus, although it is getting to be a bit laggy with some apps. Nevertheless, I feel it is a bit more bug-free overall than 4.1.
If it doesn't look like HTC will release enough code to allow the One to be made vanilla Android and freely updated to the latest OS, i may actually cancel.
When the devs get the bootloaders unlocked flashing things will be no problem. It may take a while but it'll happen eventually.
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Does anyone have any estimates as to when or if we will see any cm10 or paranoid round here?
Also, as ive come over from a samsung, not a 100% sure how sense development has been on sense roms as they failed to port it to anything else, have they managed to mix it with aosp or anything else?
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When the devs get the bootloaders unlocked flashing things will be no problem. It may take a while but it'll happen eventually.
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I think the bootloader unlock is already possible using htcdev.
snowblind2142 said:
Does anyone have any estimates as to when or if we will see any cm10 or paranoid round here?
Also, as ive come over from a samsung, not a 100% sure how sense development has been on sense roms as they failed to port it to anything else, have they managed to mix it with aosp or anything else?
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Atm im running aokp on my htc one-x
I can run pa or cm too if i wanted to and this device only has the htcdev unlock available.
Also sense from other devices can be ported but its a pita so dont expect to much on that side.
However there are also roms who strip htc sense entirly making it a treu aosp experience and diff ui's can be flashed( xperia and samsung ui have been ported to hox)
Obviously this doesnt mean its gonna happen at the one but i sure hope so
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I think the bootloader unlock is already possible using htcdev.
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But bootloader unlock (which AFAIK is available for the 32gb unlocked version as well) does not mean that the rest of the hardware will be opened up to developers, right?
Ugh, I was hoping for a much more optimistic scenario.... I love the efforts the developers here pour into maintaing these sets when the hardware is not exposed and the manufacturer drags its feet on updates, but after having to deal with the constant ROM tinkering and numerous resulting issues with my old Samsing sets, I am not excited about the prospect of going through it again.
Also, I am wondering if the non-standard soft buttons will affect easy porting of 5.0 to the One?
Having aosp etc on the one would be a bit pointless. I like it. The ones standout features are design sound and camera.
Youd have two out of three running aosp etc. Every other HTC device running has a scrappy camera since they went to 8mp. It remains to be seen what the ones camera would be. If it's deal though you lose a lot. Okay 4.2 etc is sweet on the nexus range but there hardware was built around it
Fairplay is try it on the one..debateable whether it'd be worth it though
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MacGuy2006 said:
What is HTC's history in terms of offering source code and binaries for their hardware? (I haven't had an HTC since the WM days
I pre-ordered the 32GB unlocked, but now I am wondering if I jumped the gun and I should sit tight and wait for whatever the Next Nexus phone is? The only problem is, Google does not know how to drive good hardware design, and I really doubt the next Nexus will be as well designed or built.
For what it's worth, I love 4.2.2 on my Galaxy Nexus, although it is getting to be a bit laggy with some apps. Nevertheless, I feel it is a bit more bug-free overall than 4.1.
If it doesn't look like HTC will release enough code to allow the One to be made vanilla Android and freely updated to the latest OS, i may actually cancel.
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HTC sucks at updating the new source code. They wait months after Google has already released it.
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Enraged21 said:
HTC sucks at updating the new source code. They wait months after Google has already released it.
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They are aware they were slow in releasing it. They are now trying their best to get it out on time. As to not invalidate the point on the developer version of the one.
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romitkin said:
I think the bootloader unlock is already possible using htcdev.
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I meant s-off. Sorry..
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ste1164 said:
They are aware they were slow in releasing it. They are now trying their best to get it out on time. As to not invalidate the point on the developer version of the one.
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I would hope so. But the fact that they are releasing their flagship with months old OS version is a little worrying.
I am not so broken up about 4.2, but 5 sounds like it will be a rather major update and if this thing doesn't get updated promptly, it will be a very disappointing acquisition for me.
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Having aosp etc on the one would be a bit pointless. I like it. The ones standout features are design sound and camera.
Youd have two out of three running aosp etc. Every other HTC device running has a scrappy camera since they went to 8mp. It remains to be seen what the ones camera would be. If it's deal though you lose a lot. Okay 4.2 etc is sweet on the nexus range but there hardware was built around it
Fairplay is try it on the one..debateable whether it'd be worth it though
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Exactly. I can't believe there's already complaints about the time it will take HTC to update the phone to KLP. One of the main reasons people are flocking to this phone is the awesome job HTC did on the software features. If they slapped it together you could have the latest, but not the same experience. Can't have your cake and eat it too.
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They are aware they were slow in releasing it. They are now trying their best to get it out on time. As to not invalidate the point on the developer version of the one.
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How do you know this? I would love for this to be true but, given my experience with the One X, I find it hard to believe.