I love it first off...I have issues as all do with first releases...but all the issues on other devices have always been eradicated with the great devs on the forum.
I'm sensing that because this is still percieved as a novelty device (and it very well might die as a Samsung new category device...primarily due to its fusion/compromise of tablet and phone...not ever satisfying either) ....because of that fact I fear developers just wont spend the time creating the great roms/kernels as the Evo's and GS2's have enjoyed.
Hope I'm wrong.
Have 9 days left to possibly return or sell. My Epic Touch just kick its ass in general speed (I'm still stunned at the extent that this is the case).
Anyway, that's the general fear...wanted to get it out there and off the chest!
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Dell Streak was a fairly unstable device with very little exposure, so it's adoption was much less. Samsung on the other hand is going out of it's way to advertise Galaxy Note, I am even starting to see TV ads when the device hasn't hit the market yet. Plus Note has a lot of similarity with Galaxy S2 in terms of internals, so it enjoys quite a lot of already established research and development. I mean we had a root and a custom recovery literally within the same week of its release.
I know of a few talented devs getting the device soon.
Dell Streak was a poorly advertised device. But a really good one.
Galaxy note on the other hand is a close relative of SGSII. so easier in terms of development.
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It probably won't get the same dev attention as say the nexus one or galaxy nexus, but personally I'm not too bothered about that. The note is a bit of a niche device. The Samsung apps specific to the Note look like they're pretty good already, and I believe Samsung are releasing APIs for the s-pen soon, and on the horizon is ICS with pen APIs built in.
From what I can see though, there's a lot more anticipation about the Note than for example the Galaxy Tab 7", which was also a niche phone + tablet hybrid. I expect a lot more dev love for this than there was for the Tab.
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From what I can see though, there's a lot more anticipation about the Note than for example the Galaxy Tab 7", which was also a niche phone + tablet hybrid. I expect a lot more dev love for this than there was for the Tab.
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And to be fair, the GTab7 did/does see enough dev support to make it worthwhile.
I'd expect the Note to be more popular than the GTab7 because:
a) It's superior in almost every regard to the Galaxy Nexus (IMO)
b) It will get official ICS at some point
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rockky said:
I love it first off...I have issues as all do with first releases...but all the issues on other devices have always been eradicated with the great devs on the forum.
I'm sensing that because this is still percieved as a novelty device (and it very well might die as a Samsung new category device...primarily due to its fusion/compromise of tablet and phone...not ever satisfying either) ....because of that fact I fear developers just wont spend the time creating the great roms/kernels as the Evo's and GS2's have enjoyed.
Hope I'm wrong.
Have 9 days left to possibly return or sell. My Epic Touch just kick its ass in general speed (I'm still stunned at the extent that this is the case).
Anyway, that's the general fear...wanted to get it out there and off the chest!
thanks
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When the Dell Streak was launched nearly all smart phones were small, but the trend is now away from small phones. Samsung believes that most people would prefer to carry a Note than carry a large tablet plus small phone and I think they are right. Most people will be very happy with the Note, even if there is no development in forums, because it is such a great phone.
Encouraging responses!
It seems I've taken a 3 year back step in Device responsiveness, tho.
Interesting because one of the final selling moments was review statement such as this:
From Engadget:
" Performance and battery life
The Galaxy Note may slot squarely in between a phone and a tablet in terms of physical dimensions, but when it comes to performance we're happy to report it leans much closer to the latter than the former -- in many cases surpassing even that class of devices. We ran it through the gamut of typical benchmarks and found nearly everything predictably out-pacing this device's Galaxy S II predecessor.
In quadrant this husky phone threw down a 3,998, compared to the GS II's 3,200. Linpack single and multi found 64.30 and 95.66 MFLOPS, compared to 55 and 81. Nenamark 1 and 2 resulted in 57.67 and 32.8, it hit 51.77 at Neocore and ran through SunSpider in 2,902ms. These are very, very good scores, out-classing the Galaxy Tab 10.1 in most cases and really raising the smartphone bar.
Galaxy Note Galaxy S II Galaxy Tab 10.1
Quadrant 3,998 3,200 1,769
Linpack (single-thread) 64.30 55 23.67
Linpack (multi-thread) 95.66 81 41.22
Nenamark1 56.67 59.8 42.7
Neocore 51.77 59.8 N/A
SunSpider 9.1 2,902 3,369 2,330"
NOT so with my beloved Note!
'Better on all fronts' than Nexus Prime? Don't know about that.
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Encouraging responses!
It seems I've taken a 3 year back step in Device responsiveness, tho.
Interesting because one of the final selling moments was review statement such as this:
From Engadget:
" Performance and battery life
The Galaxy Note may slot squarely in between a phone and a tablet in terms of physical dimensions, but when it comes to performance we're happy to report it leans much closer to the latter than the former -- in many cases surpassing even that class of devices. We ran it through the gamut of typical benchmarks and found nearly everything predictably out-pacing this device's Galaxy S II predecessor.
In quadrant this husky phone threw down a 3,998, compared to the GS II's 3,200. Linpack single and multi found 64.30 and 95.66 MFLOPS, compared to 55 and 81. Nenamark 1 and 2 resulted in 57.67 and 32.8, it hit 51.77 at Neocore and ran through SunSpider in 2,902ms. These are very, very good scores, out-classing the Galaxy Tab 10.1 in most cases and really raising the smartphone bar.
Galaxy Note Galaxy S II Galaxy Tab 10.1
Quadrant 3,998 3,200 1,769
Linpack (single-thread) 64.30 55 23.67
Linpack (multi-thread) 95.66 81 41.22
Nenamark1 56.67 59.8 42.7
Neocore 51.77 59.8 N/A
SunSpider 9.1 2,902 3,369 2,330"
NOT so with my beloved Note!
'Better on all fronts' than Nexus Prime? Don't know about that.
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Note has a lot of crap running in its background, even then it manages to be on par or beat the Galaxy S2. Plus I believe it's software isn't properly optimized for that resolution. Time will fix these. Hardware wise, the Note is miles better than the Galaxy Nexus. Pure AOSP Android 4 should be absolutely faultless on the Note.
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'Better on all fronts' than Nexus Prime? Don't know about that.
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What's the Nexus Prime?
In what way, other than having ICS out of the box, is the Galaxy Nexus better than the Note?
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Dave
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What's the Nexus Prime?
In what way, other than having ICS out of the box, is the Galaxy Nexus better than the Note?
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Dave
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I agree, I didn't see anything particularly exceptional with the Galaxy Nexus, at least at the hardware level. Which is a pity, as it was going to be the natural replacement for my ageing but still brilliant Nexus One... The lack of an SD slot and no obvious availability here in the UK of the 32GB version was the final nail in the coffin. The Note is actually pretty powerful from a hardware perspective. I'm sure ICS will run extremely well on it. Coupled with confirmation that 64GB sd cards work fine in it, makes it a pretty powerful and capacious device .
There is root and I am a TouchWiz keeper, battery lasts longer than GS2, regular apps run, getting ICS - I guess I wouldn't be needing dev support.
Edited: And I am not super hungry for ICS at version 4.0, I can wait until 4.0.4 when ICS is finally super stable.
i'm just waiting for Cyanogenmod to make it's way over ... it IS coming, right...?
I feel your PAIN...
rockky said:
...I'm sensing that because this is still percieved as a novelty device...because of that fact I fear developers just wont spend the time creating the great roms/kernels as the Evo's and GS2's have enjoyed.
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Coming from the Dell Streak 5 myself, I know EXACTLY how you feel. I flashed as many ROMs as were available -- all TWO OF THEM!!
Amazingly, my son STILL USES my HD2 because it never gets OLD--he can change to a new ROM almost DAILY. There has to be about 82 million ROMs for that thing!
Now that I just picked up the SGN on Friday, I too am hoping the SGN will get that kind of love!!
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When the Dell Streak was launched nearly all smart phones were small, but the trend is now away from small phones. .
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Quite right. With my streak people used to be wow every time they see it. Not anymore. At my work place every one seems to be carrying something really big.
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No love for Dell Streak
I completely understand how you feel, coming from the streak.
I got the streak in Oct last year, because 2.x was "coming soon". Gave up and did it myself in December. I'm still on 2.2.2, which is super stable for me.
I've looked at the SGS2, but that 4.3" screen is just too hard to get use to.
If someone in the states would offer the Note, I'd buy it in a heartbeat. I'm not sure I want to get one from overseas...just yet. Bought several items from HK, but, nothing almost a grand in price.
...and I'm OK with that
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...With my streak people used to be wow every time they see it. Not anymore...
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Me too!!! NOW, I don't have to feel OBLIGATED to let people FEEL UP my phone.
people don't wash their hands you know...
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And to be fair, the GTab7 did/does see enough dev support to make it worthwhile.
I'd expect the Note to be more popular than the GTab7 because:
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Well, the Tab 7 had lots of rommers basically modifying stock with some UI tweaks, and Technomancer doing a proper job with CM7. Nowhere near the likes of something like the Nexus One where lots of real development took place.
I can see lots of development of the Note in comparison, especially once Samsung drop the source. Even more activity once it moves to ICS. I think there are reasonably long legs in this device for devs to come on board.
I am concerned as well. Actually, this is the only reason why I have still not purchased the Galaxy Note.
Are there any good developers who have already promised to support this phone?
chainfire has one,
I'm getting one, when the monkeys at amazon finally decide to give mine to citylink to deliver it!
whether or not I'm a "decent dev" is anyones opinion, but I do have a go
fards said:
chainfire has one,
I'm getting one, when the monkeys at amazon finally decide to give mine to citylink to deliver it!
whether or not I'm a "decent dev" is anyones opinion, but I do have a go
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One of devs who I respect most.
I am sure anyone who has used dell streak knows it.
Damn the delivery from amazon. I thought u might get it today and work your magic.
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So it's here... dun dun DUN! I've put a poll up.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXdhrSlCKEY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iy64uoC-CyA
What do you guys think? Just some friendly opinions, no need to get fired up!
Finally
Honestly... what a beast!! Looks awsome, but I'll stick to my Note for some time.
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ThereS a gs3 forum you know.
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ThereS a gs3 forum you know.
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He wanted the opinion of Note users.
Back to topic. The S3 is great but will stick to my Note. Note screen > Sg3 screen.
JulyDerek said:
He wanted the opinion of Note users.
Back to topic. The S3 is great but will stick to my Note. Note screen > Sg3 screen.
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Yea for me, it's all about the larger screen and S-Pen. I'll probably only swich once the Note 2 comes out, and even then, that's just a maybe.
S3 looks good and is packed with good hardware by not worth upgrading from Note
The only problem I have with the S3 is the screen. It was never meant to be 5.5 though otherwise it would have been called Note II rather, my next phone that is! Can't go even an inch smaller now..
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This phone is Meh and the apps for it is meh, Nothing new or ground breaking.
The looks are meh and the screen is meh.
I rather keep my note for the next gen with better display.
Though the 64gb memory with a 64 gb external would be nice.
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Though the 64gb memory with a 64 gb external would be nice.
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Definitely - the S3 won't be my next phone, but please let's have a 64GB version with microsd expansion in the next Note. Native ability to use filesystems that can support files bigger than 4GB would be a big plus too, I want to be able to take my blu-ray rips with me.
I don't like it's shape, it looks a bit girly. Usually I am an early adopter of all the newest phones but after the Note, I won't go for anything less. S pen for me has also become an essential criteria, can't wait for premium suite apps!
I really dont like the design...the rest is fine. This whole "nature" thing is a bit misplaced i guess...big galaxy event, nebulaes etc. in the announcements - and the phone looks like a pebble...
I was afraid of this to be honest. The specifications are not that appealing for current owners of Note.
I think as far as design is concerned, its not any worse or better than what we are used to from Samsung. I just think that HTC caught everyone by surprise this time around with overall design aspect of their One series. Including Samsung.
But I do like the other non performance related improvement that SGS3 brings like wireless charging and streaming accessories (I know DLNA is there but not everyone is setup for that ). I also like the slight changes made to the UI. But I guess the real bang would come with Note 2 in the future. Its slightly underwhelming upgrade for current Note users. I honestly did not expect non RGB panel on flagship even with such high PPI count. It just feels like Samsung took little conservative approach with SGS3. Its still a beast of a phone, but it wont be carrying the WOW factor that SGS2 and Note had.
See the attached file
Nice phone. If the Note didn't exist, I would be all over it.
Don't care for the shape.
Specs wise it is nice, but not nearly enough to tempt me away from the note.
I go for Nokia Lumia 800...
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I don't like it's shape, it looks a bit girly. Usually I am an early adopter of all the newest phones but after the Note, I won't go for anything less.
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+1
the note is very professional looking with only the chrome bezel for bling
the gs3 is to shiny and rounded, it looks like a phone for a young girl
ryn888 said:
I go for Nokia Lumia 800...
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Are you lost?...
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Are you lost?...
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haha he might be on crack but let him have his opinion S2 made me a big fan of samsung hardware and after that moving on to note I really cannot imagine going back to s2 in my wildest dreams.. kinda sad actually how the evolution of smartphones spoils our tastes at such fast rate.. i still reminisce about my old 8850 which cost more than these suckers and was the sexiest thing that time but having used the note for few weeks and seeing the launch of s3 I am very happy that I wont have urges to upgrade anytime soon..With all the big bucks samsung earned since Q1 2011 I really had higher expectations for s3 design and build material.. what was all hype about being waterproof, rado material blah blah its quite disappointing but atleast I know now I made the best choice to get note instead.. Maybe next year if samsung does learn about the blunder they made with 2012 unpacked event we might see more innovative products as the note for 2013 lineup.. keeping fingers crossed!
ps. I always hated apple products not because everyone loves them but I just have better experiences with other products such as creative for mp3, alienware of laptop, samsung for phones but I can never bash on their product designs because thats only thing i think they should be acknowledged for.. having said that i must say as of today for design, id lean more towards the htc one X having held it when buying my note it really is of great build quality.. If HTC can improve their vision and focus on design and quality, then samsung should really be inspired to innovate not immitate and instead of being immature going after apple fanboys, focus more on better QC as i thinkg its one of their biggest problems due to so many manufacturing facilities.. everyone is entitled to their preferences, one should not look to be better by insulting others but instead win them over genuinely by developing superior products and through positive WOM.. Next to watch out for would be NOTE2!!
Intersting article. May be this is why it's so ugly?
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...irst-smartphone-designed-entirely-by-lawyers/
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So, with all of the fuss around the Galaxy S3, potentially a new iPhone and other quad-core phones bustling out onto the market, I have had one or two people ask me as to whether or not I regret purchasing a Galaxy Note considering that it only features a dual-core processor and may not even get Jelly Bean unlike S3 which is almost guaranteed to. So, do you regret purchasing the Note and wished you'd gotten an S3/other device instead or not? I, personally, love my Galaxy Note. I couldn't afford both a tablet and phone, so this fills that gap perfectly. The S3 has admittedly got better processing power, but the Note is still the only phone which has true 1080P resolution screen (as far as I am aware).
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So, with all of the fuss around the Galaxy S3, potentially a new iPhone and other quad-core phones bustling out onto the market, I have had one or two people ask me as to whether or not I regret purchasing a Galaxy Note considering that it only features a dual-core processor and may not even get Jelly Bean unlike S3 which is almost guaranteed to. So, do you regret purchasing the Note and wished you'd gotten an S3/other device instead or not? I, personally, love my Galaxy Note. I couldn't afford both a tablet and phone, so this fills that gap perfectly. The S3 has admittedly got better processing power, but the Note is still the only phone which has true 1080P resolution screen (as far as I am aware).
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Not a bit. I came from a SGS2, and haven't looked back. And what's this rubbish about not getting JB? We'll have JB quite soon; have you seen the news about CM10?
Note is not 1080p (1920x1080), it's 1280x800, which is still great. It has a higher pixel density than the iPad3.
If I had known 'bout the emmc brick bug, I may have bought a nexus.
I mean it does get updates super fast and all.
But weather I regret it or not,
well I don't.
Nope, best phone I've ever owned. Imported from Germany as soon as available for way too much.
Fast, beautiful screen and great size. I actually wouldn't mind a bit bigger. I hope they don't muck up version 2 too much.
My only regret on the Note is the EMMC bug. I mean, what the heck! we paid the phone more than 700usd when it was released and we get a bug in the official firmware that can brick this expensive phone for good!! This is completely unacceptable....but I will still get the Note 2 just because of the large screen!
The Note can be compared ONLY to another Galaxy Note, which does not exist.
Criskelo 4.04 ICS LRG v9, LRB Modem, speedmod k3-9 kernel, Carrier: AT&T (US)
Not at all. No other phone has 5,3" amoled screen - i dont really care about quad-core, dual core is enough at the moment for me.
Brick bug is the only flaw with this entire device.
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Not a bit. I came from a SGS2, and haven't looked back. And what's this rubbish about not getting JB? We'll have JB quite soon; have you seen the news about CM10?
Note is not 1080p (1920x1080), it's 1280x800, which is still great. It has a higher pixel density than the iPad3.
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Don´t regret it one bit,all this rubbish that its to big and won´t fit in your pocket is just bul***it,had it in ever paar of jeans I own with no probs.Used to own a HTC HD2(r.i.p:cryingwhen that came out it was the biggest phone on the market at that time and now.....its standard with the size and now when I get a phone that size I think...hmmm...a bit small Software,ok a few problems to begin with but now with 4.0.4,TOP :good: Played with an S3 for a while but it didn´t turn me on a bit were as with the Note...100% pure sex
The Note has a resolution from 1280x800 but records at 1920x1080 and has a max. video output of 1920x1080 full HD.
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Don´t regret it one bit,all this rubbish that its to big and won´t fit in your pocket is just bul***it,had it in ever paar of jeans I own with no probs.Used to own a HTC HD2(r.i.p:cryingwhen that came out it was the biggest phone on the market at that time and now.....its standard with the size and now when I get a phone that size I think...hmmm...a bit small Software,ok a few problems to begin with but now with 4.0.4,TOP :good: Played with an S3 for a while but it didn´t turn me on a bit were as with the Note...100% pure sex
The Note has a resolution from 1280x800 but records at 1920x1080 and has a max. video output of 1920x1080 full HD.
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I never have a problem putting it into my pockets (normal fitting jeans) and sometimes carry 2 phones in the same pocket at the same time (Note plus either the Epic 4G/Nexus S 4G).
LOVE my Note. I've been owning it for over 4 months now and it still runs just as good as the day I bought it and I'm still on GB (stock but rooted). Heck it has been so good even while stock, I still run TW launcher! I also own a Nexus S 4G and Epic 4G (on Sprint, work phones) and I still default to my Note for just about anything that I don't do on my laptop. I also own an HP Touchpad (bought during the firesale has WebOS and CM on it) and ever since I've had the Note, I rarely use it, now mainly my kids play with it. The Note truly is the best all-in-one device. The only thing is the eMMC bug which I've hesitated updating to ICS, but even on GB it does everything I need it to do. If/when Sprint carries the Note 2, then I'll upgrade then. Heck I am already upgrade eligible on Sprint, but rumors of a Note 2 announcement on August 30 is making me sit on my upgrade until a Note 2 is released on Sprint.
Nope. Best device I've ever owned.
Never going back to CDMA, either. Love the flexibility GSM affords me.
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If you're going to regret buying something because something (arguably) better gets released 8 months later,
then you might as well not buy anything at all.
- Frank
You kind of had to know before hand that purchasing this would be outdated slightly since the s3 was due out for five months down the line. Plus Samsung treats the galaxy note line as if it were a [email protected]@rd orphan child that gets it hand me down.
It's a bigger phone so give me better specs dammit.
The firmware update mishaps , crappy battery ... need I say more?
It would be hilarious if the owners of xda launched a public service announcement national commercial listing evening wrong with the galaxy note.
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.... If I were to change the note.... Longer battery life, maybe, more accurate pen in horizontal position, camera button, less mega pixel camera with bigger photo receptors, pen out light, more ram, and steel case to attach a chain to it so people can't ever steal my awesome awesome phone/star trek Data pad.
I'm future proof until 3d ar glasses come out.
Not even for a second, quad core phones are useless really, im glad things are moving forward and eventually quadcore will be utilized, but the only thing that could possible use al that processing power on phones is games, and there isn't asingle game out there tha exclusively for the power of quadcore, all the high spec games run fine on dualcore phones. So im not in any rush to upgrade ill upgrade after 12 months of having the note which is december. Hopefully the note 2 :-D
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Not even for a second, quad core phones are useless really, im glad things are moving forward and eventually quadcore will be utilized, but the only thing that could possible use al that processing power on phones is games, and there isn't asingle game out there tha exclusively for the power of quadcore, all the high spec games run fine on dualcore phones. So im not in any rush to upgrade ill upgrade after 12 months of having the note which is december. Hopefully the note 2 :-D
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I won't be upgrading the Note till mid-2013 roughly, but I love my Note too so no worries.
I regret reading and replying to this thread.
Yes I do, for the simple reason that as soon as I went an bought mine, Samsung announced its successor, thereby making me spend more on the older model than I need have, and preventing me from buying the new one as soon as it comes out.:crying:
But then that's just how my luck runs.
C'est la vie....
I bought the note three weeks ago, so way after the s3 announcement. Had the s2 up to then. Made the choice because the s3 does not feel or look so nice (imo) and does not feel like a decent upgrade (don't get me wrong I do think it's the best phone out there, just not a huge upgrade to the s2).
The Note feels like a true upgrade, despite being basically the same specs, because screeeeeeen
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I bought it since over 7 months now was my first android handset,but still did not grow on me this is at best one laggy OS most probably will get the next iphone but will surely miss both the big screen and the Flash support in the browser.However it was a very interesting experience.
I bought the galaxy S3 on the release date.
First i was quite happy with the new exciting features but soon been dispaointed with a lot of manufacturing processes issues.
Overheating, black spots on screen, feeling in hand so-so because of the rounded corners and we can easily drop it on the floor, call quality problems and some lack of real developpement on our North America Device because of the International version who takes the lead ...
I kept my Galaxy S2 ( international one that almost everyone have fortunately. Not LTE but it is ok ) that i have for 8 months and when i returned to it I felt very comfortable and sell the GS3 at the same time.
I do not want to start a troll or something it is just a personnal opinion that I want to share with the community and I would like to know if other people feels scammed with the SGS3 or if I make a big mistake.
At first the phone is cool. But after a few weeks the magic really disapears ..
I have the same opinion too... I have a black i777 ATT and a white international... I prefer them to the S3. They have reasonable screen size and way better design. The S3 is too big for my taste and I cant stand the design that made for woman ( with a big hands of course). Even though the S3 comes with new features but the ATT S3 still uses dual core so its not really a big improvement.
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I have the same opinion too... I have a black i777 ATT and a white international... I prefer them to the S3. They have reasonable screen size and way better design. The S3 is too big for my taste and I cant stand the design that made for woman ( with a big hands of course). Even though the S3 comes with new features but the ATT S3 still uses dual core so its not really a big improvement.
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So I'm not the only one that thinks the S3 looks girly! It does have some nice features but just looks like it would prefer to live in a handbag.
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So I'm not the only one that thinks the S3 looks girly! It does have some nice features but just looks like it would prefer to live in a handbag.
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You are right about that fact
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JB
I don't need a S3 as long as I get Android 4.1 JellyBean on my S2
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I don't need a S3 as long as I get Android 4.1 JellyBean on my S2
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I totally agree. currently I am running a cm10 based rom and I am very satisfied.
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The S3 is blazing fast though. Maybe my comparisons of CM9 versus stock SGS3 are unfair but my gf's SGS3 feels so fast. Just laucnhing the app launcher hers beats mine. You'd think a simple task like that shouldn't matter much. It's like playing Doom 2 on a Core i7 versus a Intel Pentium 4. The load times are like 1 seconds versus 0.9 seconds or something. But maybe it's because of TouchWiz.
I realize that the Sgs3 is uglier and stuff, but honestly get it. Things like BLN matter for me and unless they get BLNWW I don't think I'll be 100% satisfied with my phone. Plus the screen is gorgeous on the SGS3.
As for development, the Exynos SOC is well developed for. you can credit hte SGs2 for being the guinea pig because remember CM7? we had issues even AFTER CM7.1 release with market crashing left and right and outstanding issues. It was never fully working til post CM7.1. Heck I think we had issues into December/January.
But as a result of our struggles on the SGS2 and other devices like the Note, I think SGS3 benefitted greatly. Look at where we were in CM7 at this point last year. Meanwhile the SGS3 has ICS running beautifully. The progress in CM10 is about the same as that on the SGS2.
Yeah it's not the most beautiful device, and there's still probably more SGS2 than SGS3 users, but look at 6 months down the road, The SGS3 will shine more. Our SGS2s only have room to fall more and more behind as newer devices come out. I'm itching to buy but at the same time I'm telling myself just to wait for the next Nexus....
At first I think I will change my S2 to S3. But I think when I don't feel S2 fast or few during use than why sould I change? Maybe next year, and maybe Note 2
I feel no need for S3 too....why? Even I have JB on my S2
You can check the benchmark reviews for an idea of the differences.And you could have visited a phone shop and see how it fitted in your hand etc before you bought one.
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You can check the benchmark reviews for an idea of the differences.And you could have visited a phone shop and see how it fitted in your hand etc before you bought one.
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Ya seriously instead of wasting money on just to try it u could hav done that,,, I prefer S2 still because of two reasons, one is financial my salary is only half of the price of S3 second one is S3 s far too big too handle(Not tooooo much ) like I m rider I keep checking mails for professional purpose even some times stopping on side of roads if phone slips gone .. I started saving for s2 from one year I m happy with this Beast.. Also Sammy confirmed JB for s2.. Atleast can draw upto 1 1.5 years more
Don't get me wrong, I agree that in terms of specification, the S3 is superb device, in terms of speed, screen resolution etc. It offers a greater degree of future proofing than the S2 but would I spend money to upgrade at this stage? No, it's just not enough of a step up to make me consider it. And I have had a good play around with a couple of them.
I will wait for the S4 or possibly a future Nexus before moving by which time my S2 will be very well used. And I still think the S3 is just too feminine in design for my personal taste. Kind of like how the original VW Beetle morphed from a car that transcended class and gender barriers into the recreated one that doesn't.
That said, if I owned an S3, I would just stick it in a decent case and be as happy as Larry.
heres my rant, I've been thinking about this since it came out, I can't justify the upgrade, mostly for the 720p screen and dpi so I got a tablet for browsing
I don't mind the quad core as dual is more than enough power, one thing I was not sure about is the quality control on amoled screen and design, I wouldn't want to root it and risk warranty.
been looking at my local listing site and I see many s3 with broken screens from being dropped and knowing how many times I dropped my s2 I know the s3 design wont be any better
and last, the size and shape, other than it being feminine, it will be too big to use it with one hand, its not designed for most humans I find the s2 hard as it is reaching the other side with my thumb
Hmmm I have a question, is it worth fixing my cracked screen on the s2 and continue using it or should I trade it in for a S3? Hmmm... I might rather go for the Note 2...
Sgs3 or note2 are only for them, those hands are larger to fits in hands comfortably....plus you have to maintain them properly and you have big pockets to fit in.
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I'll probably skip S3 and wait for S4.. it might be next year but at least it will be equipped with Exynos 5 Dual Chip.
http://www.androidauthority.com/samsung-exynos-5-dual-specs-features-106609/
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Hmmm I have a question, is it worth fixing my cracked screen on the s2 and continue using it or should I trade it in for a S3? Hmmm... I might rather go for the Note 2...
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You could sell it as is on eBay.You could get around £160 for it.A screen can cost around £100 but it could be tricky to replace.
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I like my s2 very much :fingers-crossed: especially with aluminium bumper + 2000mah battery :good: and also siyah kernel + miui v4
I have a GS2 running CM9 stable.
While GS3 is blazing fast, for everyday activities GS2 is more than sufficient.
Also, GS2 being 800 x 480 resolution has a comparable or even better frame rates than GS3 running at 720P when running games.
So, I will stick with GS2 for another year and may be look at GS4 or if something more awesome comes in.
I am a Note II owner and love the phone. Then I really felt like buying an Android tablet. I went and got me Asus Transformer Infinity yesterday & boy Do I regret!! I just put an ad to sell it 100$ off price just to get rid of it & get a Note 10.1 !
Here's what pissed me off. Its a ***** to get the bootloader unlocked. You gotta use Asus unlocker tool & their servers dont respond. its been 48 hrs almost and still no luck.
Theres like only 1 or 2 costume roms available for it and for that this needs to be unlocked.
What pissed me off most that it had only 1gig ram. I thought since it was pricier then a Note 10.1 then its probably at least the same specs.
And damn is it laggy! I guess it could be the ICS' fault and that the JB for it will be smoother but right now it cant be compared to smoothnes of my Note phone at all!
The charger connector is also not standard mini usb which sux and the keyboard for it is too pricey!
One thing I was really looking for was to play Tegra 3 games on it & of the 5 games I tried only 1 was not buggy!
anyways... from what Ive seen from the Note 10.1 dev forum it looks just as promising as my NoteII.
so if anyone here thinks I am making a mistake or something I missed plz let me know.
donno why I even bothered buying this. I was so happy with my Note2. It would have been logical to get another galaxy product!
It was an expensive lesson I even ordered a screen protector for it which costs 30bux inc shipping!
I think you're making the right decision, but....
You should know that the Note 10.1 also doesn't use a mini-usb plug. It's also proprietary.
Don't waste your money.
The Note 10.1 didn't have ANY ROMs out when I bought mine,
and technically there still isn't any official JB for my N8013.
I would wait.
The Note 10.1 is not perfect, no tab is. Based on your post,
you seem to be a hasty kinda buyer cuz you seem to not
research your purchases beforehand. Keep in mind:
The Note 10.1 also has a proprietary non-standard charger/connector.
The few available docks if you want one are rare and pricey as well.
The TF700 has a far better display (by ppi)
The Note 10.1 is not tegra 3 but exynos quad.
Samsung is NOTORIOUS for taking forever to push updates
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Don't waste your money.
The Note 10.1 didn't have ANY ROMs out when I bought mine,
and technically there still isn't any official JB for my N8013.
I would wait.
The Note 10.1 is not perfect, no tab is. Based on your post,
you seem to be a hasty kinda buyer cuz you seem to not
research your purchases beforehand. Keep in mind:
The Note 10.1 also has a proprietary non-standard charger/connector.
The few available docks if you want one are rare and pricey as well.
The TF700 has a far better display (by ppi)
The Note 10.1 is not tegra 3 but exynos quad.
Samsung is NOTORIOUS for taking forever to push updates
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That's a bit of an overstatement?
No one is saying the Note 10.1 is perfect.
Well, about the lag, the Note 10.1 doesn't lag at all - yes, I'm not saying this just because I own one, it's because it doesn't lag at all.
It's fast and fluid, and with the correct use, it will blaze at an amazing speed.
It has already many custom ROM's available and it's hack-friendly. Samsung releases the open-source very often for their devices.
Oh, and about the updates, Samsung was actually quick to bring in Jelly Bean. It makes your Note 10.1 be twice as fast (in some cases).
You can also have a plethora of keyboards (non-OEM) that are cheap, and some even turn to be covers as well.
All in all, it's a pretty nice buy, but if the non-standard charger/connector is a no-GO, then it's a don't buy this. This tab uses the proprietary connector.
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That's a bit of an overstatement?
No one is saying the Note 10.1 is perfect.
Well, about the lag, the Note 10.1 doesn't lag at all - yes, I'm not saying this just because I own one, it's because it doesn't lag at all.
It's fast and fluid, and with the correct use, it will blaze at an amazing speed.
It has already many custom ROM's available and it's hack-friendly. Samsung releases the open-source very often for their devices.
Oh, and about the updates, Samsung was actually quick to bring in Jelly Bean. It makes your Note 10.1 be twice as fast (in some cases).
You can also have a plethora of keyboards (non-OEM) that are cheap, and some even turn to be covers as well.
All in all, it's a pretty nice buy, but if the non-standard charger/connector is a no-GO, then it's a don't buy this. This tab uses the proprietary connector.
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+1 on that add also the multiwindow option /svoice /airview /front stereo speakers and n8000 model can do gsm calls and allot more, i used note II for like a week before buying note 10.1 and personally i think spen on 10.1 is some what more senstive and more ergonomic, something to note also the spen can work as a mouse in web browser to review links, etc and scroll
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did you vote yes or no ?
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+1 on that add also the multiwindow option /svoice /airview /front stereo speakers and n8000 model can do gsm calls and allot more, i used note II for like a week before buying note 10.1 and personally i think spen on 10.1 is some what more senstive and more ergonomic, something to note also the spen can work as a mouse in web browser to review links, etc and scroll
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did you vote yes or no ?
I got my Note last Friday and can say that I love it. The quad core and 2GB of RAM keeps it fast and responsive, something I can't say about my first gen Android tablet that this replaces. I'''ll upgrade my Android phone next year once I see which LTE may come to my area; however, I know it will have similar specs to the Note.
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I am a Note II owner and love the phone. Then I really felt like buying an Android tablet. I went and got me Asus Transformer Infinity yesterday & boy Do I regret!! I just put an ad to sell it 100$ off price just to get rid of it & get a Note 10.1 !
Here's what pissed me off. Its a ***** to get the bootloader unlocked. You gotta use Asus unlocker tool & their servers dont respond. its been 48 hrs almost and still no luck.
Theres like only 1 or 2 costume roms available for it and for that this needs to be unlocked.
What pissed me off most that it had only 1gig ram. I thought since it was pricier then a Note 10.1 then its probably at least the same specs.
And damn is it laggy! I guess it could be the ICS' fault and that the JB for it will be smoother but right now it cant be compared to smoothnes of my Note phone at all!
The charger connector is also not standard mini usb which sux and the keyboard for it is too pricey!
One thing I was really looking for was to play Tegra 3 games on it & of the 5 games I tried only 1 was not buggy!
anyways... from what Ive seen from the Note 10.1 dev forum it looks just as promising as my NoteII.
so if anyone here thinks I am making a mistake or something I missed plz let me know.
donno why I even bothered buying this. I was so happy with my Note2. It would have been logical to get another galaxy product!
It was an expensive lesson I even ordered a screen protector for it which costs 30bux inc shipping!
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I'm done with ASUS, too...
TF700 has a superb display, and thats about it...mine was laggy,too. OTA wouldn't work, so i did an unlock using ASUS's unlock-tool, tried to update with TWRP and downloaded update.zip - would't work either but kept the tablet in a bootloop. ASUS of course refuses warranty because unlock, tries to charge me repaircosts 90% of a brandnew device - come on guys, kidding??? Sold the keyboard, bought the note 8010, fast and smooth with root and Team Union Jelly Bean...an expensive lesson for me, too...
I'm not bashing the Note. I have the phone and the tab as well and love both.
I'm commenting on the op's qualms about the choice he made, which he regrets.
All I'm saying is the op obviously didn't do any research before buying. Some of the
stuff he hates about the Asus TF are also present with the Note. Which means he
is still making the same mistake of not researching.
The reason I said he should keep it is cuz he seems to be guilt-tripping over a perfectly
good purchase. That and he's going to sell his perfectly good tab and be out $100 bucks
because of it.
And you're making a point of there being cheaper docks for the Note 10.1.
Cheaper dock options are also available for the TF700.
And no, the note does NOT have LOTS of ROMs but dev is heading there. On that subject
I was saying that if he waits, dev will get better for the TF.There are ~20 custom ROMs
on xda for the TF700 and less than ten for the Note 10.1. Two or three for the WiFi only devices.
I still also maintain that Samsung drags its feet when it comes to updates.
The TF had JB since October. As of writing this there still is no JB for the N8013, no
leak, no official. Asus is in fact known for their frequent updates.
The tab has quality control issues as I well. I had to return the first one I bought since
the screen was defective. If you read up, this very forum will confirm that I was not alone
in this. Some report lag with the software. Asus is well known for having poor quality
control though.
With all that said, I considered both tabs when buying, did my research and bought the
Note. I love the one I have now and don't regret it at all. It is amazingly good despite any reviews
saying this or that is better.
I've had both and the Note is a better choice (for me at least). A lot less lag and more options. I have the OG note for my phone and have it running stock android. I much prefer touchwiz on the 10.1. Multi window is awesome and I actually use the IR blaster a lot more than I thought I would. Lots of cool features that vanilla android doesn't offer. I vote Note
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Since the Note and N10 have come out the TF700 forum has become a ghost town. Picture tumbleweed. Scott Crossler, the magician who made the TF700 usable, is no longer supporting it. Others are trying to keep up his work but picture "Otto Pilot" from the movie Airplane. Asus has done little or no marketing for the TF700 and it's just sort of floating out there. Asus’ Q3 sales of 10.1" tablets was actually down year-over-year.
Here's my elevator conversation summary of the three most talked about Android tablets:
Note 10.1 - It's the most complete tablet available (any OS) and has unique features like multiview, inking via a Wacom digitizer with palm rejection, S-Note, and a slew of Samsung developed features not available elsewhere that make it a joy to use. It's powerful, has JB (kind of), has great sounding front mounted speakers, gets above average battery life, and has a great display with decent (for Samsung) color accuracy, good contrast, and is nicely bright. There are two downsides and they apply mostly to consumption-only buyers. The 720P display isn't as good on text and computer generated graphics as higher PPI tablets and all the things that make the Note great at creation and productivity add a lot of complexity for people that aren't going to use those features. It's also available with 3G and when so equipped it doubles as a giant phone. The only tablet I'd consider replacing my Note with is another Note with a higher PPI display.
N10 - I, like many people, saw the specs for the N10 before it was released and thought it was "game over" for all other 10.1" Android tablet makers. As it turns out the N10 is a "value" tablet not a "high-end" tablet. It has the highest PPI of any tablet on the planet but it's fairly dim, is pretty warm, and has just average contrast. The number of N10's reported with light bleed on their displays is pretty shocking (at any price) for a Samsung-built tablet. The N10's A15 SoC is state-of-the-art and kick-ass powerful. But, because of the mammoth PPI it's powering, it's no more powerful than the Note. It also has a bizarre quasi-phone UI which wastes a tremendous amount of display real estate and looks awkward on a 10" tablet. It's "Pure Google" which is fantastic for updates but, feature wise, it's a barren wasteland compared to the features bundled with TW. Battery life is below average and recharging time is six hours. The N10 is a great consumption device for the price. And that's about it.
TF700 - The Infinity is nothing more than a gussied up Prime which means its design is over a year old. It's also using a Teg3 SoC whose design is eighteen months old and at the end of its useful life and now used primarily in budget devices. It has no 5GHz Wi-Fi, uses single channel memory (the Note and N10 are dual channel), has 1GB of RAM, has IO issues that Asus has made famous, and is built using outdated components that, in a lot of cases, are from second-tier manufacturers (EG: AzureWave Wi-Fi radios). Asus' QC is dreadful, their repair center in TX horrible, and to unlock the bootloader you agree to completely void your warranty. There are a couple of things that are unique and, IMHO, the only reason people should be looking at a TF700. They are: the keyboard which also extends battery life, expandable storage, and the Super IPS display that makes it great for outdoor use. Someone only looking for PPI is better off with a N10.
So, as someone above said, no tablet's perfect. Of the three, I think living with the Note's perfectly acceptable but lower PPI display involves the least amount of compromise. For someone wanting/needing a higher PPI the N10's a decent choice and a good value. For someone who has to have a keyboard and/or higher PPI and expandable storage there's the TF700. But based on it and Asus' history, declining sales, and price, you're probably better off leaving Android and buying a W8 tablet.
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Since the Note and N10 have come out the TF700 forum has become a ghost town. Picture tumbleweed. Scott Crossler, the magician who made the TF700 usable, is no longer supporting it. Others are trying to keep up his work but picture "Otto Pilot" from the movie Airplane. Asus has done little or no marketing for the TF700 and it's just sort of floating out there. Asus’ Q3 sales of 10.1" tablets was actually down year-over-year.
Here's my elevator conversation summary of the three most talked about Android tablets:
Note 10.1 - It's the most complete tablet available (any OS) and has unique features like multiview, inking via a Wacom digitizer with palm rejection, S-Note, and a slew of Samsung developed features not available elsewhere that make it a joy to use. It's powerful, has JB (kind of), has great sounding front mounted speakers, gets above average battery life, and has a great display with decent (for Samsung) color accuracy, good contrast, and is nicely bright. There are two downsides and they apply mostly to consumption-only buyers. The 720P display isn't as good on text and computer generated graphics as higher PPI tablets and all the things that make the Note great at creation and productivity add a lot of complexity for people that aren't going to use those features. It's also available with 3G and when so equipped it doubles as a giant phone. The only tablet I'd consider replacing my Note with is another Note with a higher PPI display.
N10 - I, like many people, saw the specs for the N10 before it was released and thought it was "game over" for all other 10.1" Android tablet makers. As it turns out the N10 is a "value" tablet not a "high-end" tablet. It has the highest PPI of any tablet on the planet but it's fairly dim, is pretty warm, and has just average contrast. The number of N10's reported with light bleed on their displays is pretty shocking (at any price) for a Samsung-built tablet. The N10's A15 SoC is state-of-the-art and kick-ass powerful. But, because of the mammoth PPI it's powering, it's no more powerful than the Note. It also has a bizarre quasi-phone UI which wastes a tremendous amount of display real estate and looks awkward on a 10" tablet. It's "Pure Google" which is fantastic for updates but, feature wise, it's a barren wasteland compared to the features bundled with TW. Battery life is below average and recharging time is six hours. The N10 is a great consumption device for the price. And that's about it.
TF700 - The Infinity is nothing more than a gussied up Prime which means its design is over a year old. It's also using a Teg3 SoC whose design is eighteen months old and at the end of its useful life and now used primarily in budget devices. It has no 5GHz Wi-Fi, uses single channel memory (the Note and N10 are dual channel), has 1GB of RAM, has IO issues that Asus has made famous, and is built using outdated components that, in a lot of cases, are from second-tier manufacturers (EG: AzureWave Wi-Fi radios). Asus' QC is dreadful, their repair center in TX horrible, and to unlock the bootloader you agree to completely void your warranty. There are a couple of things that are unique and, IMHO, the only reason people should be looking at a TF700. They are: the keyboard which also extends battery life, expandable storage, and the Super IPS display that makes it great for outdoor use. Someone only looking for PPI is better off with a N10.
So, as someone above said, no tablet's perfect. Of the three, I think living with the Note's perfectly acceptable but lower PPI display involves the least amount of compromise. For someone wanting/needing a higher PPI the N10's a decent choice and a good value. For someone who has to have a keyboard and/or higher PPI and expandable storage there's the TF700. But based on it and Asus' history, declining sales, and price, you're probably better off leaving Android and buying a W8 tablet.
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I would really like your opinion on why you think the n8013 in the US has not seen the JB update and why there seems to be not even a peep about it. All promotion of the note 10.1 happens only on the Samsung Mobile International Facebook Page, including the big Christmas vid, but not word about the 10.1 on the Samsung Mobile USA page. It is like the product vanished.
Thoughts?
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I would really like your opinion on why you think the n8013 in the US has not seen the JB update and why there seems to be not even a peep about it. All promotion of the note 10.1 happens only on the Samsung Mobile International Facebook Page, including the big Christmas vid, but not word about the 10.1 on the Samsung Mobile USA page. It is like the product vanished.
Thoughts?
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Because HTC, Motorola, and Samsung all suck at managing device updates. Before I got my N2 two weeks ago I was using a Teg3 One X. In an official press release with quotes from their CEO HTC said the Teg3 One X JB roll-out was going to be in October. Taiwan (HTC's home country) got a JB update in October that was so bad the roll out was stopped for the rest of the world. It started again two weeks ago and only five regions out of over a dozen have received it. In between, regional HTC offices have been providing inaccurate and conflicting updates on what the JB schedule really is.
Back to Samsung. Having nothing to do with updates Samsung's s/w management process is a cluster f-k. A single device can have over twenty four "current" versions of s/w running on it because Samsung creates unique s/w for each region a device is sold in. A good example is that while rolling out JB to the N8000 they were still releasing 4.0.4 ROMs in certain regions of the world. So there are newer ICS ROMs than there are JB. HTC rolls out a single version of "current" s/w that all of their devices globally (except specific Asian markets) get updated to within the span of a few weeks. So HTC's managing two versions (global and Asia) of s/w per device while Samsung's managing dozens. And the complexity this creates makes Samsung's update process overly complex and difficult for us on the outside to track and make sense of.
So, the short answer to your question of "where's the N8013's JB update?," is that it's stuck somewhere in Samsung's plumbing waiting to be deployed. It's fun to talk about reasons for delays like patent issues and the like but I really think it’s just Samsung being Samsung. The OG 8.9 on AT&T just got ICS last week after the rest of the world received it in August. Go figure.
The upside is that Samsung's s/w is versatile for end-users to manage with Odin so that when a newer ROM comes out for a different region you can just use that with no repercussions. My Brazilian N2 is running a Panamanian ROM and my also Brazilian Note 10.1 is running a British ROM. At some point soon either someone on XDA or Samfirmware is going to post a complete MD5 file for the N8010. Once that happens every 8010/3 user can update to it using Odin without the current complexity of loading a new ROM followed by using recovery to update it to JB from SD. Look at it this way; at least we have some options. The poor folks waiting on HTC and Motorola just have to wait.
This is kind of old but makes the point of how complex Samsung's s/w managment process is. This is a list of ROMs deployed just for the N8000. Kind of scary.
I don't understand what the problem is with the proprietary connector? Seems to work fine for me.
SkizzMcNizz said:
I don't understand what the problem is with the proprietary connector? Seems to work fine for me.
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The problem is twofold:
Compatibility
Portability
Which are two sides of the same coin. You must use Samsung's connector
which limits your options for peripherals, unless you get an adapter. Even
then the lack of a separate HDMI port and the fact that you can't charge via
your PC's USB port (not enough current) are annoying. And you can't use your
devices chargers which means one more charger to carry around.
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The problem is twofold:
Compatibility
Portability
Which are two sides of the same coin. You must use Samsung's connector
which limits your options for peripherals, unless you get an adapter. Even
then the lack of a separate HDMI port and the fact that you can't charge via
your PC's USB port (not enough current) are annoying. And you can't use your
devices chargers which means one more charger to carry around.
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small price to pay for the dogs bollocks of android tabs, I have been putting off buying waiting for decent specs with micro sd, bought a nexus 7 & took it back next day, felt like cheap plastic crap! I would love to see a review for the note 10.1 based on a price of £268 which is what I paid after cashback, im sure it would get editor's choice awards across the board!
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small price to pay for the dogs bollocks of android tabs, I have been putting off buying waiting for decent specs with micro sd, bought a nexus 7 & took it back next day, felt like cheap plastic crap! I would love to see a review for the note 10.1 based on a price of £268 which is what I paid after cashback, im sure it would get editor's choice awards across the board!
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I was just answering his question :crying:
And that's a good price. I paid $499 plus shipping.
You can charge on a PC's USB... Just reeeeeeeeeally slowly.... Best to leave overnight to charge in this instance, but I have been using it before and charging at the same time...
Thanks for all the info. Im still waiting for someone to buy the asus
The thing that was most dissapointing was the lag. Jerky surfing and delayed responses.
Dont care much about that tiny higher screen resolution
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Don't waste your money.
The Note 10.1 didn't have ANY ROMs out when I bought mine,
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The JB update came out the day I bought mine so YMMV.
and technically there still isn't any official JB for my N8013.
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Which is relevant only if the N8013 is the version he is going to buy (and seeing that he is from Norway it most probably is not).
The Note 10.1 is not perfect, no tab is.
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Sure but IMNSHO it's the best one out there.
Based on your post, you seem to be a hasty kinda buyer cuz you seem to not
research your purchases beforehand.
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Agreed, how could he assume for example that the Transformer had to have 2GB of Ram just because it was more expensive... :silly:
[*]The Note 10.1 also has a proprietary non-standard charger/connector.
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Yes, which means neither of them has an advantage over the other in this respect.
[*]The few available docks if you want one are rare and pricey as well.
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False, I got a Samsung original desktop dock (stand, charge and audio out) for € 20 (in Italy) and it works with practically all of the Samsung 7" and 10" tablet lines.
[*]The TF700 has a far better display (by ppi)
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Which is its ONLY advantage.
[*]The Note 10.1 is not tegra 3 but exynos quad.
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Which is actually a PLUS (unless you are a gamer maybe, which I am not).
[*]Samsung is NOTORIOUS for taking forever to push updates
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False, Asus has been one of the best ones for their tablet line but Samsung is not bad at all when you compare it with all of the others and has actually been pretty good with their smartphones.
I run the official JB on my Note 10.1 3G and should get the official JB update on my OG Note very soon.
What he should keep in mind is:
- the Note 10.1 has 2GB RAM (a killer spec for how I use it)
- MultiWindow
- the 3G version is one of the handful of 10" tablets in the world (all of them Samsung AFAIK) that have full GSM call and message capabilities (another killer spec for me)
- it has the S-Pen (I don't use it all that often but when I need it it's VERY useful)
- very good and loud stereo audio
- Touchwiz and Samsung added SW, services and personalizations
- I don't know how it would do with games (I don't have a single one installed on my mobile devices) but on everything else the quad-core Exynos is the fastest and smoothest Android tablet I have ever seen.
- very good battery life
- one of the very best non-HD displays
- light and with a PLASTIC back (I HATE metal bodies!!!!)
- it has an IR blaster and you can use it as a smart remote
Hi guys I was consider the idea of getting a tablet I would normally want a tablet as for media but I'm also a student so I came across note 10.1 and liked the s pen but recently I came across the xperia tablet z that is absolutely nice and it's a newer device the thing I'd that note 10.1 is a bit old and I'm don't want to throw a lot of money assuming the note successor will be very expensive, anyway right now there's a 50 dollars difference between the two wifi models in amazon so any suggestions?
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Thank you!
I recommend either buying the Tablet Z now or wait for successor to the Note 10.1. Unless you really need a tablet with an s pen now.
Vertron said:
I recommend either buying the Tablet Z now or wait for successor to the Note 10.1. Unless you really need a tablet with an s pen now.
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I think Samsung have a presentation for new stuff at June 10, they might show it there. The Note 10.1 is almost a year old now I think ?
/Edit: It's June 20. June 10 is Apple.
I'm a student, I've thought the same thing. Honestly what made me order the Xperia Tablet Z is the design. I can't stand Samsungs cheap plasticky design, and its UI is absolutely horrible. The S pen is the only reason to consider it, but when testing I learned that I can write just as fast with the swype-function on the Sony device.
Vegost said:
I'm a student, I've thought the same thing. Honestly what made me order the Xperia Tablet Z is the design. I can't stand Samsungs cheap plasticky design, and its UI is absolutely horrible. The S pen is the only reason to consider it, but when testing I learned that I can write just as fast with the swype-function on the Sony device.
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But what about te fórmula recognition feature and al the other things like multiscreen?
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But what about te fórmula recognition feature and al the other things like multiscreen?
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It depends. Not everybody needs it. However, for me, multi-window is very interesting and have an edge when comparing to any other tablets (except Win8 Intel tabs, but you know, normal window's apps are not touch optimized)
I have had the Tab Z since Friday, and the Note 10.1 since it launched in the USA.
Tab Z without any hesitation... The S-Pen is neat at first, but gets to be "eh whatever" pretty quickly. Samsung's ****ty UI skin makes the tablet look ugly as ****, sound awful, and slows it down significantly. On top of that, if you're here on XDA, you probably care about development, and the Note 10.1 had next to no development for it, partly because Samsung didn't bother to comply with the GPL and released kernel source that didn't match what was running on the device at all. It took me two weeks to get a working wifi driver on source-built kernels.
If you care about CyanogenMod at all - the choice is obvious. All of the former Exynos4 CM maintainers are mostly retired from Exynos4 work, and I can tell you, of the two Note 10.1 maintainers, one (espenfjo) is currently retired from CM work, and the other (myself) has barely touched the unit in 2-3 months. Meanwhile, two of the four former Exynos4 maintainers have the Tablet Z, and a few other CM maintainers do too, with more likely to come.
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I have had the Tab Z since Friday, and the Note 10.1 since it launched in the USA.
Tab Z without any hesitation... The S-Pen is neat at first, but gets to be "eh whatever" pretty quickly. Samsung's ****ty UI skin makes the tablet look ugly as ****, sound awful, and slows it down significantly. On top of that, if you're here on XDA, you probably care about development, and the Note 10.1 had next to no development for it, partly because Samsung didn't bother to comply with the GPL and released kernel source that didn't match what was running on the device at all. It took me two weeks to get a working wifi driver on source-built kernels.
If you care about CyanogenMod at all - the choice is obvious. All of the former Exynos4 CM maintainers are mostly retired from Exynos4 work, and I can tell you, of the two Note 10.1 maintainers, one (espenfjo) is currently retired from CM work, and the other (myself) has barely touched the unit in 2-3 months. Meanwhile, two of the four former Exynos4 maintainers have the Tablet Z, and a few other CM maintainers do too, with more likely to come.
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I agree with your points of view. I'm also quite interested in future development and I hope more and more devs get the Tablet Z. Entropy, I think I've read in the XTZ AOSP forum (CM 10.1 thread, specifically) that you might check the CM port for our WIFi-only devices, am I right? :fingers-crossed: I hope I am. Pretty much only LTE support for now.
Greetings.
I wouldn't recommend anyone buy any tablet other than the N10 or XTZ tbh
Please use this thread for your comparisons with any other tablet.Don't create new threads because they maybe get closed or deleted.
Thank you!
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I wouldn't recommend anyone buy any tablet other than the N10 or XTZ tbh
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What about nexus 10?
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What about nexus 10?
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Sorry by N10 I meant NEXUS 10 rather than Note
I think the Note is probably powerful enough but has a low res screen, something like the transformer infinity has the resolution but Tegra 3 doesn't cut it at 1080p.
Both the Nexus 10 and Tablet Z are powerful with high res screens.
New Transformer with Tegra 4 is announced now, which is probably more powerful than both and has similar res to the Nexus 10.
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Asus is crazy today, I have to say that. All of their offers are crazy (for specs or for price).
The new Asus Infinity
http://www.engadget.com/2013/06/03/a...-pad-infinity/
Display: 2560x1600
SoC: Tegra 4
4K HDMI + USB 3.0 port
Price: $399 (Tablet) $499 (Tablet + Dock)
The new Asus Memo Pad FHD 10 inch
http://www.engadget.com/2013/06/03/a...d-10-hands-on/
Display: 1920x1200
SoC: CloverTrail+ 2x1.6GHz
Price: Unknown, but given the price $399 of new Asus Infinity and there are two versions 16 and 32 gigs, I guess it will be $250 and $300 (the MemoPad HD 7 inch is $150)
I think Sony faces the payoff of delaying its Tablet Z. These two tablets are so powerful. The new Asus Infinity has better specs in any area with the same price but having a excellent dock (which many love). The MemoPad's specs are not far from Tablet Z (better CPU with less power consumed, weaker GPU), the possibility of installing normal Windows 8 due to Intel CPU, and the price should be much more sweet.
I have three Asus tablets (tf101, tf201, tf701), and I know their issues (stupid update, bad build quality, and something special issues of each tablet) and swear not to buy another one, but as I said, these offers above are two sweet, and I think Asus has the experience to pass some stupid things like cheap NAND (which make horrible I/O on my tf701) or wifi.
What do you think?
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O think the prices are very interesting but as you say asus doesn't give me the confidence of Sony, indeed the infinity has better specs but I think their updates will be even worse than Sony, besides tablet z's design is nicer although I think they need to lower the price to be able to compete as Toshiba has also launched two powerful devices
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I agree with your points of view. I'm also quite interested in future development and I hope more and more devs get the Tablet Z. Entropy, I think I've read in the XTZ AOSP forum (CM 10.1 thread, specifically) that you might check the CM port for our WIFi-only devices, am I right? :fingers-crossed: I hope I am. Pretty much only LTE support for now.
Greetings.
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Yup. I'm probably going to start poking at it tonight.
better sound that kindle fire hd. i think it´s Impossible. say what you think
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Yup. I'm probably going to start poking at it tonight.
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That's great! I still don't have my XTZ (will arrive in a week or so), but as soon as I get it I'll do whatever I can to help, which would be pretty much only the testing part. Not a developer myself. :crying:
Thanks, Entropy. :good:
Greetings.
I would wait for the next model of whatever Sony got, I know ppl keep saying better hardware come out every time in 6 months but, their new DUO 13 is TRILUMINOS display, looks like all their flagship products from this point forward are all TRILUMINOS.
lol the mods close a thread and make you go here that is not even the same...pass..
Anyother.. yeah I stopped at 25 other tabs and as you can see no one came over here to keep talking. Like saying..go away.. no proplem
MobileTechReview comparison of XTZ and N10
Lisa Gade, who I've noticed visiting these forums, has a nice comparison between the XTZ and the Nexus 10. It's pretty consistent with my own impressions: N10 is a great value and pure Android; XTZ has more bells and whistles and appeals to people (like me) who put a premium on things like weight...
Here's a link to the review:
http://www.mobiletechreview.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Number=44801