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What do you think about this phone now that we have seen what Dell has done to its launch with SIM card failures and secure Wi-fi issues, etc.?
Yes. I still want one .
Problem is, as far as I'm aware Dell still haven't actually launched the phone officially. Clearly we can all see why with all the problems people are having. But they're getting a massive amount of stick for a phone that's been forced early onto the market in small quantities by MS (so it would seem).
I was holding out for the DVP, but just picked up an HD7 as it may be some time before they get it out the door officially, and also I'm hoping that there will be a step up in specs at some point next year, which could then put the DVP back behind the curve if it's too late to market.
What's happened with it has been a failure, but I do feel for them somewhat since they clearly haven't wanted to release it yet as it's not ready, but those few who managed to get one from MS are now destroying it before it's officially launched. Someone in the marketing dept screwed up big time I would suspect - they obviously got drawn in too much at the idea of being the MS flagship device at launch day.
The HD7 is awesome though, hopefully this time next year the DVP2 will be out with faster processor, more memory, and all the problems sorted
Dell should have cuts its losses after the soft-launch of the first batch of Venue Pros with the secure wifi bug and mislabeled batteries by issuing a recall of all the Venue Pros sold. They should just have accepted the returns, refunded the money, and waited until they were truly ready before selling the phones again.
I have to agree that this whole launch was a mistake for Dell. I am sure there was pressure from Microsoft but Dell is its own company and if they felt that they were not ready they should have said no. Based on what was shipped to consumers it seems clear that they were not ready.
My hope now is that they can re-group and make some sort of statement about what they are doing to get this phone out the door. For many this has put a bad taste in their mouths as no one wants to pay to test out a product that they have to use in their daily lives.
Still getting one, just not from the first batch...
good point.. same here..
Hopefully getting one as long as these bugs are fixed, im not spending 500+ and the phone acts up
im waiting dor the next gen. hope it comes with a front camera and running on webos or android.
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im waiting dor the next gen. hope it comes with a front camera and running on webos or android.
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Negative....
They supposibly have a Dell Venue coming out for Android without the sliding keyboard
Well I wouldn't say the device is a failure, yet. It still has a lot of potential but its all upto dell to get the launch fixed and working devices shipping. I mean lets consider a few things:
1. A lot of the hard stuff has already been done by Microsoft..the OS, some drivers etc. I'm assuming the snapdragon SoC drivers were handled by Microsoft for a few reasons:
Qualcomm worked very closely with MS to optimize the QSD8250 for Wp7. This leads me to believe that they wrote the drivers for it and would explain why every phone is using it. I mean why would samsung use a worse processor when they have their own superfast one.
SIM readers are so bog standard that I highly doubt the firmware for them varies from device to device.
2. Dell had 1 year or so to get this device working, why weren't these issues noticed during testing? I mean at most dell would have to just code a few drivers (wifi, screen, and camera), and they managed to screw that up too?
3. Dell CEOs has said developing for WP7 is a lot easier than Android...foot in mouth maybe? If it was easier why so many problems?
4. Dells mobile division was pretty good at one point of time. But the streak and aero, while good devices, were executed so poorly. Why did they ship with an ancient version of Android? What was dell thinking?
All that leads me to believe that while Dell has the potential to make a stellar product...bad management and terrible communication has lead to them ruining what could have been potentially good products. Maybe thats why the dell mobile division president was fired?
Yes and considering that Dell didnt screw up their flagship Android device Dell Streak must mean that they can pull off a very good product. Why this phone they messed up befuddles me. Maybe WP7 scared them.
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qipengart said:
Yes and considering that Dell didnt screw up their flagship Android device Dell Streak must mean that they can pull off a very good product. Why this phone they messed up befuddles me. Maybe WP7 scared them.
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I would give them a break, I understand that sometimes stuff like this happens with electronic devices. Thankfully Dell stopped took a step back and took feedback from the community with a number of issues already resolved as of now. While I don't like a new device having so many issues what I do like is a company owning up to them and doing what is necessary to fix those issues.
I certainly would not say the device is dead on arrival as people are obviously ordering it. Also your poll needs more options, I am not particularly loyal to Dell or this phone. I am just a realist who can comprehend that electronic devices can and normally do have issues.
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I would give them a break, I understand that sometimes stuff like this happens with electronic devices. Thankfully Dell stopped took a step back and took feedback from the community with a number of issues already resolved as of now. While I don't like a new device having so many issues what I do like is a company owning up to them and doing what is necessary to fix those issues.
I certainly would not say the device is dead on arrival as people are obviously ordering it. Also your poll needs more options, I am not particularly loyal to Dell or this phone. I am just a realist who can comprehend that electronic devices can and normally do have issues.
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Take this all back, the device may not be a failure but dell obviously is. They need to stick to computers and stay out of the phone game.
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We want openness now we want support we want updates fixes etc etc dont abandon us
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I'm letting Dell know by not buying their product. What kind of company makes the phone for Tmo, cancels that, then makes it for ATT, begins selling unlocked versions yet still limits Tmo to edge. All the while making functioning ones for Cin. Bell. F Dell.
Samsung Hercules is worth the wait at this point.
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Your totally right.... Just makes me mad that these companies release hardware and only support the users for a brief period of time. Google needs to lay down some mega rules on the use of android and force the OEM's to support the product for a period of 4 years or more..
Yeah right, also bankers should accept responsibility for screwing us over and politicians should all be honest!
Dell (and every other company, anywhere, ever) are not in business to create good products and waste resources supporting them. They are in business to take joe publics' money to make profit for their shareholders - end of story.
You get the same sob stories from owners of Dell, Samsung, Sony, HTC, Nokia - oh they made me buy this phone that does everything they said it would but now they won't give me any upgrades for free, so now if I want a faster bigger/smaller phone that can make the toast in the morning I have to buy a new one - moan moan.
Ok, Dell takes a phone from Android 1.6 to 2.2 (for AT&T users that would be baseband 353), they clearly publish the specifications (call T-mobile like I did before purchasing and ask them does this work on your 3g network, guess what? They will tell you no it doesn’t will only work on edge) and as long as you have an actual warranty repair they fix it. So how did they screw us?
Also did they get $576 per phone from you? They did from me, bought two of them, one me and one for the wife. We have zero complaints, she uses stock and I use DJ-Steve's custom ROMs. Quit your pissing and moaning and be happy that when you took it out of the box it worked, much better than a lot other things I have bought over my life time.
we have been promised so much by dells CTO and by the head of the linux team to help out with development for the device, lots of pretty talk about community taking over support for future builds etc etc.
all to nothing.
they have even removed the source code for the alpha build for gingerbread from opensource.dell.com
EEJITS
@Fards, ok you got me there, thought the wall was starting to come down, but I guess not. Actually gives them black eye as you, Steve and host of others saved the Streak. You would have figured for all the goodness you have done, they would have wanted to keep you guys happy. Well there is always the Samsung Galaxy S II, know Steve doesn’t like Samsung, but at least it is better than anything apple makes (lesser of two evils).
I guess you are partially right, but don't forget about stock rom full of uninstalable bloatware and extra-slow Dell Stage UI.
We are not asking for another update of stock rom, we are just asking for drivers. But from what I heard, they already released some drivers for Streak: http://opensource.dell.com/releases/streak/
But drivers for audio is missing and Dell is saying they can't release it because they are not owners of the drivers (but then who is?).
Edit: and I want to point out another thing - I guess it will be ok if we can buy updates for our device. For example, if HC 3.2 will have support for tablets with smaller screens (and it should have), I perfectly ok with paying for this update. I understand, that implementing of new update is not easy and for me, it will be still cheaper than buying new device (not to mention there is not another device like Dell Streak).
I doubt there will be any updates since Streak 5 and 7 are getting build anymore and there are no planed successors for Streak 5 and 7 at the moment. Streak Pro will be launched in the US only sometime later this year.
source: someone from inside dell
Once again let's not forget all the issues related to the screen.Gorilla screen sounds pretty damn good,but what about what is underneath?.
I wish they'd at least release drivers so our amazing devs can continue to improve upon this great piece of hardware.. With that said, I really doubt we will see anymore support from Dell, they've seemed to pretty much moved on from the Streak 5
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I doubt there will be any updates since Streak 5 and 7 are getting build anymore and there are no planed successors for Streak 5 and 7 at the moment. Streak Pro will be launched in the US only sometime later this year.
source: someone from inside dell
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btw.. it won't be called "Streak" or be part of the Streak family.
I don't understand what you guys are expecting...
HTC and Motorola just make mobile devices and accessories. They must be more open and provide bleeding edge just to stay in business.
Dell, HP, Sony, etc.... Have hundreds of other products that they make as part of their business model. They don't need mobility to survive.
releasing a device with 1.6... 2.0...2.1...2.2...2.2.2.. seems like alot of updates to me.especially since it wasn't shipped crippled in anyway like samsung.
Dell does just fine and if you want 3g on tmobile look for an aws one I own 3 they are not that hard to find haha
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I don't understand what you guys are expecting...
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It's been said that the best complaint letters are ones that clearly spell out what the writer wants the company to do for them to fix the problem. The OP hasn't provided a very good complaint letter, just a brief rant. But this is to be expected when people have unrealistic expectations.
The OP's comments can be broken down into the following three things:
1. Openness
2. Firmware support
3. A request to not abandon Streak users.
I haven't posted to this thread until now, despite wanting to reply to the OP earlier. However I think the expectations of the OP are unrealistic. The harsh reality is that the Streak's time in the sun has passed and it's rapidly heading towards sunset. If I were in Dell's shoes, none of this would deserve more than a cursory response, mostly because of the points you have already made, especially in regards to firmware support. The other two things? Well the first is so nebulous as to be unanswerable, and the second would be given a boilerplate response regarding where to find information on the Streak.
While I would love to see Honeycomb, or even better, Ice Cream Sandwich on a Streak 5, if I don't get it I'm not going to complain. I'm perfectly happy using 2.2.2.
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Yeah right, also bankers should accept responsibility for screwing us over and politicians should all be honest!
Dell (and every other company, anywhere, ever) are not in business to create good products and waste resources supporting them. They are in business to take joe publics' money to make profit for their shareholders - end of story.
You get the same sob stories from owners of Dell, Samsung, Sony, HTC, Nokia - oh they made me buy this phone that does everything they said it would but now they won't give me any upgrades for free, so now if I want a faster bigger/smaller phone that can make the toast in the morning I have to buy a new one - moan moan.
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Sooo we should all buy iPhones because they are not like the bankers and every other company. Your right they are one of the only companies to support their legacy products. This is why I dont have a problem supporting them and there prices. I know im buying a product i can own for years and sell it later knowing updates and value will be there. The way companies operate now need to take note on how apple supports its devices. I love my streak, I also love my Apple iPhone 4.
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btw.. it won't be called "Streak" or be part of the Streak family.
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Yes it will! Streak Pro.
We will also see a Latitude tablet sometime later this year.
megapimp said:
Sooo we should all buy iPhones because they are not like the bankers and every other company. Your right they are one of the only companies to support their legacy products. This is why I dont have a problem supporting them and there prices. I know im buying a product i can own for years and sell it later knowing updates and value will be there. The way companies operate now need to take note on how apple supports its devices. I love my streak, I also love my Apple iPhone 4.
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I never mentioned the iWord, Apple are no better at looking after their customers than anyone else.
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
It's been said that the best complaint letters are ones that clearly spell out what the writer wants the company to do for them to fix the problem. The OP hasn't provided a very good complaint letter, just a brief rant. But this is to be expected when people have unrealistic expectations.
The OP's comments can be broken down into the following three things:
1. Openness
2. Firmware support
3. A request to not abandon Streak users.
I haven't posted to this thread until now, despite wanting to reply to the OP earlier. However I think the expectations of the OP are unrealistic. The harsh reality is that the Streak's time in the sun has passed and it's rapidly heading towards sunset. If I were in Dell's shoes, none of this would deserve more than a cursory response, mostly because of the points you have already made, especially in regards to firmware support. The other two things? Well the first is so nebulous as to be unanswerable, and the second would be given a boilerplate response regarding where to find information on the Streak.
While I would love to see Honeycomb, or even better, Ice Cream Sandwich on a Streak 5, if I don't get it I'm not going to complain. I'm perfectly happy using 2.2.2.
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I totally agree the streak works amazingly well as it is, what exactly does gingerbread, honeycomb bring to the streak that you can't already do in froyo? I would prefer dell concentrate on new devices that I can buy when I've had my streak for a year, and I ready for a new 5 inch device.
For the four of you who might actually care T-Mobile has officially discontinued the Dell Streak 7 tablet and Dell Mini 10 HSPA+ capable netbook. The Dell Streak 7 was introduced back in January during CES and was quickly overshadowed by the upcoming G-Slate. Met with mixed reviews the Streak never took off as T-Mobile’s first 4G tablet and the Dell Mini 10 appealed to the Netbook loving crowd who unfortunately got tempted by the sudden rise of tablets. In any case both devices have met their inevitable end on T-Mobile and we bid them farewell. They are gone and mostly already forgotten.
SOURCE: http://www.tmonews.com/2011/07/dell-streak-and-dell-mini-discontinued/
Dell really needs to step their game up. Can't they see that their customers aren't happy with their products?
Actually as a Dell customer I am very happy with my Dell products. I accept that they have some flaws though.
The Streak 7 needed a better screen and advertisement.
The Streak 5 needed to open with 2.2 and advertisment.
Both devices could have been really big wins for Dell, but Dell squandered the hype generated around the initial launches with poor communication to the buying public.
Well on that note I love my dell streak but seems that in the real world dell products ain't doing to well. For T-Mobile to drop dell is a pretty big thing.
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Actually as a Dell customer I am very happy with my Dell products. I accept that they have some flaws though.
The Streak 7 needed a better screen and advertisement.
The Streak 5 needed to open with 2.2 and advertisment.
Both devices could have been really big wins for Dell, but Dell squandered the hype generated around the initial launches with poor communication to the buying public.
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Correct. Problem is Dell sucks at advertising....
The Dell Streak 5 would of sold a hell of a lot more if it was ADVERTISED!!!
I'm surprised at the amount of people who have never heard of it.
Infact EVERYONE I know have never even heard of it....
When friends, colleagues at work & even strangers see my Streak, they ask:
1 - What is that? Is that a laptop?
2 - Is it Dell? I never knew dell make phones
3 - Is it Lg or Samsung?
4 - Is it a large tablet?
5 - Is it Apple ipad?
Truth is Dell sucks at design, advertising, build quality and customer support
If I wasn't into hacking/modding I would hate the streak. If I didn't know about things such as launcher pro or other aftermarket launchers I would hate the streak because stage is so buggy and limited. Besides the few hundred streak owners who visit xda and other forums, I'm sure anyone else who bought the streak was probably displeased. Dell is in trouble if they can't up their quality, updates, etc. otherwise they'll never catch on in the mobile world.
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If I wasn't into hacking/modding I would hate the streak. If I didn't know about things such as launcher pro or other aftermarket launchers I would hate the streak because stage is so buggy and limited. Besides the few hundred streak owners who visit xda and other forums, I'm sure anyone else who bought the streak was probably displeased. Dell is in trouble if they can't up their quality, updates, etc. otherwise they'll never catch on in the mobile world.
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It isn't necessary to do a lot of hacking/modding to get a very enjoyable device out of the Streak. Replacing the Stage home app would do it for most people. Rooting and getting rid of the unnecessary stuff would be the nest thing I would do (especially if on an AT&T locked device).
We have owned five Android phones (seven if you count my brief defetion to US Cellular) and my wife's current HTC Inspire is the only one that I haven't needed to tweak. BTW - the Inspire is still running Android 2.1, so Dell has updated the Streak to a later version of Android than what is arguably the best Android device that AT&T currently sells has. I don't see the reason for the complaints about the lack of updates. Of course I did not buy the Streak when it shipped with 1.6, so I didn't have that 6-7 month wait for the first updates to roll out.
I also think that the build quality of the Streak stands up to other phones I have owned or tried out.
My Streak came, carrier unlocked, with Android 2.2 and with the updates that Dell has put out it would be a very good device even with no tweaking. Like many - one of the reasons I like Android is that I can tweak/customize my phone easily.
Good point, Marvin...... My Streak is also factory-unlocked with factory-installed Froyo.... only thing I've done to it was to immediately delete Dell's "Stage" widgets and install "Launcher Pro" (to increase the number of shortcuts on home pages)... and I'm VERY pleased with my non-rooted Streak..
I've two horrifying experiences with "rooted" phones (both phones would eat through a fully-charged battery in less than 3-hours)..... and all for what, a millisecond faster response time? Frankly I just don't see the point, especially if it's your primary, high-investment-dollar phone (but I do have fun swapping ROMS on an old "backup" HD2 I have) LOL
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it isn't necessary to do a lot of hacking/modding to get a very enjoyable device out of the streak. Replacing the stage home app would do it for most people. Rooting and getting rid of the unnecessary stuff would be the nest thing i would do (especially if on an at&t locked device).
We have owned five android phones (seven if you count my brief defetion to us cellular) and my wife's current htc inspire is the only one that i haven't needed to tweak. Btw - the inspire is still running android 2.1, so dell has updated the streak to a later version of android than what is arguably the best android device that at&t currently sells has. I don't see the reason for the complaints about the lack of updates. Of course i did not buy the streak when it shipped with 1.6, so i didn't have that 6-7 month wait for the first updates to roll out.
I also think that the build quality of the streak stands up to other phones i have owned or tried out.
My streak came, carrier unlocked, with android 2.2 and with the updates that dell has put out it would be a very good device even with no tweaking. Like many - one of the reasons i like android is that i can tweak/customize my phone easily.
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i have a few friends with the htc inspire and the phones they have came with android 2.2! The bluetooth is 2.1
This title pretty much says it all...
http://www.androidguys.com/2011/10/13/michael-dell-android-developed-expectations/
Don't be waiting for The Opus One.
To tell you the truth I wasn't.
Im waiting for the:
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zsolti256 said:
This title pretty much says it all...
http://www.androidguys.com/2011/10/13/michael-dell-android-developed-expectations/
Don't be waiting for The Opus One.
To tell you the truth I wasn't.
Im waiting for the:
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Me too!
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In the case of our unit, don't you actually have to market the damn thing if you want Android to meet your expectations?
Dell has yet to market ANY of it's mobile devices,
strangely though the venue pro is doing a lot better then the venue, even though the venue pro had a really hard start in life.
It might be the largest userbase behind the s5, though granted the wp7 market has a lot less devices overall so it's not as diffucult to not be flooded by millions of devices unlike on android
I gave up waiting for 2.2, I gave up completely for 2.3, I gave up on the update to the streak, I'm GIVING UP on Dell. Samsung note will be my next device when it hits the states.
I think Dell was trying to sell its mobile phones using the same sales model they used when selling PCs. They didn't take into account the many, many more variables that affect mobile phone purchases (carrier first, then platform, then leading edge hardware). They, I think, wrongly assumed, "People are buying alot of Android phones, and since we're Dell, if we make them, people will buy them". Let Dell go back to Microsoft.... I mean they've been in bed together for decades..... Mr. Dell just is reluctant to admit fault.... "We're Dell..... no one is buying our phones so it MUST be Android's fault" LOL
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Who cares BTW if it's Android 1.6 or 2.2. What's the difference?
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It would help if they actually followed the development cycle and released the updates, where is 2.3.3, 2.3.4 and so on?
A device stuck with a older version of the OS is always going to be less popular.
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I think Dell was trying to sell its mobile phones using the same sales model they used when selling PCs. They didn't take into account the many, many more variables that affect mobile phone purchases (carrier first, then platform, then leading edge hardware). They, I think, wrongly assumed, "People are buying alot of Android phones, and since we're Dell, if we make them, people will buy them". Let Dell go back to Microsoft.... I mean they've been in bed together for decades..... Mr. Dell just is reluctant to admit fault.... "We're Dell..... no one is buying our phones so it MUST be Android's fault" LOL
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Yeah, thats exactly it
There is this saying don't hate the player, hate the game. I think. But in this case , its the other way around Yeah, people that cant admit there made a mistake, not updating the software, or at least doing some market hype.
It seems like Dell isn't very appealing because of the style, and its openness to software. Plus , back then Android wasn't that popular that you can could sell a heavy 5" phone, But now days with the right specs, you just watch ...
In short, they are too lazy, There going for the surely win route, I think. Thats why they are going for the Win8 tablet.
Dell must have new PR manager
if dell stepped up the hardware, maybe some IPS, super AMOLED+, 8+MP cam anyone? make Streak 7 a bit thinner.. release with stock Android and get updates out on time, and maybe unlock bootloaders, etc. oh yeah and advertise!! They could be moving units.. Streak 7 likely last piece of anything Dell I own for a good long time..
One thing I will say, however, is my cousin has the Dell WindowsPhone "Venue Pro".... and that phone is truly a THING OF BEAUTY (no kiddin). I've read on more than one reputable site that it may in fact be "the best WindowsPhone available" (believe it or not). Not only is it extremely well-made, but it feels like you could drive nails with it and not hurt it. Such a shame it's running that G-damned lame-as-**** Windows OS.
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One thing I will say, however, is my cousin has the Dell WindowsPhone "Venue Pro".... and that phone is truly a THING OF BEAUTY (no kiddin). I've read on more than one reputable site that it may in fact be "the best WindowsPhone available" (believe it or not). Not only is it extremely well-made, but it feels like you could drive nails with it and not hurt it. Such a shame it's running that G-damned lame-as-**** Windows OS.
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Personally I will never buy another windows phone. Was very glad of the android transition to revert, even if windows "finally" did something about their quirky, sticky, freezing between processing and my alltime fav "random non-response touchscreen moments".
But Dell F'd up once with bad promo and had monkies doing their PR. Dell f'd a secomd time making the announcement about. "Dell has pulled the streak from its current inventory ...stay tuned for a special announcement.." Leaving us to believe our trusty ole Streaks were called in for some "innerds overhaul" only to hear that its been pulled from the U.S. market.
Dell f'd a third time releasing a DELL STREAK PRO, much smaller screen and device, looks like a cookie-cut replicate of most other phones, lost all its streak5 features.
I am looking for info on how to get my hands on the ViewSonic tab/phone.
Time to put ole Dell out to third-world pastures
Personally my opinion is not one to count on Dell's conscious but here it goes, first of all they didn't even make the product they just slapped their name on it and try to get as many sales as they could two once their product crashed on 2.2 faster than an angry bird into a wall they knew if they didn't pull it they would get a bad name and three dell doesn't care about their customer cause if they did they would admit to making a bad product and see how they can go ahead and fix their problem extend warranties on bad units, fix 2.2 issues an apology for stealing your money oh wait it's not stealing it's business. Okay well from now on Samsung has my business and I will steal from Dell by letting one know everytime they see my Streak "what the hack is that thing" saying the worst investment you can ever make"
@Chamo4u2: Dell's conscience and the fact they only put their name on the Streak aside, I'd like to find out where you get this impression they pulled the Streak because of crashes. Now I've owned a Streak since April. It came with 2.2.2 347 preinstalled. In that time frame I've upgraded the ROM to 351 and 360, after having to reinstall 347 twice due to mistakes I made in tweaking the ROM for my tastes. At no time have I encountered force close issues, thus I don't believe their ROMs are the problem. Since my experience flatly contradicts yours, what is different about your Streak compared to mine?
The Streak was discontinued in the original countries where it was released. Dell has released the Streak in Asian countries this year, meaning for those countries the Streak is new. If the Streak were pulled because of software problems, Dell would not have released it in Asia. Thus your statement that the Streak was pulled due to crashes is demonstrably false.
The Streak is actually a decent device that was saddled with poor marketing decisions made by Dell. Of course this assumes that the Streak was actually marketed, when we know it wasn't. Had Dell put any effort into promoting the Streak in television commercials, had put Streaks in AT&T stores, and had actually sold the device with 2.1 from the start instead of 1.6 we likely would not be having this discussion.
Despite the lack of marketing and despite Michael Dell's comments, apparently Dell does still care about the consumers. As most people reading this forum know, Dell released the sources to a Gingerbread kernel. According to DJ Steve those sources have been in his possession for over a week now. With Dell releasing the kernel, can official Gingerbread ROMs be far behind?
P.S. You've got to work a bit on the punctuation buddy. I almost ignored your post because I had so much difficulty reading it.
can official Gingerbread ROMs be far behind?
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i hope so ive got my streak till march (wifes 18 month contract) & i would like my phone to end its days with gingerbread
I'm with Strephon...... I've had my factory-installed Froyo Streak since last April and it's been one of the most stable Android phones I've ever owned (seriously).... And I've owned EVERY T-Mobile Android phone available (MyTouch Slide, MyTouch 4G, Nexus, G2, LG G2x). I blame the US Streak's downfall on non-existent marketing and offering it carrier-subsidized only on aTnT. Up until they lost iCrap exclusivity, they would actually try and talk new customers out of buying anything Android (I witnessed this myself).....
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I experienced that firsthand, and got so pissed I left the store. If there is one thing I cannot stand it's being lied to, and the AT&T "salesperson" did exactly that in trying to dissuade me from going with Android.
Pledging support for Microsoft and Windows 8,
That's the key phrase there, it means they've done a deal with M$ and knocking Android is a way of passing the buck for their past failure on to Google.
lolwut
slaydog said:
Who cares BTW if it's Android 1.6 or 2.2. What's the difference?
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How are you a senior member? Did you seriously just ask what the difference between 1.6 and 2.2 is?
UPDATE 1/15/2013:
Dell Going Private:
http://www.businessweek.com/news/20...to-end-public-scrutiny-25-years-post-ipo-tech
Dell Quits Smartphone Business:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/jeanbaptiste/2012/12/12/dell-quits-smartphone-business-globally-android/
Reaffirms the fact that Dell missed a golden opportunity with the Dell Streak and Venue lines. Things like this happen when you're a large corporation incapable of quickly adapting to a changing environment.
How does this affect our phones in particular?
Would it not be "a good way to go" to release all sources/other materials to the community? Would that be of any help at the current state of affairs?
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heh.. you dont need to worry bout that... as long as xda is here, something would come out .. tho i am not putting any expectation to it...
whatever have been done by xda member here especially the developer is priceless
I do not care about this cuz we have xda :thumbup:
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Also to whoever has one, get ready to see prices go up when you're ready to sell :thumbup:
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They've already had plans to exit the smartphone/tablet sector over a year ago.
(WinRT tabs likely are handled by their windows division)
Look at their roadmaps and what they delivered: there hasnt been a single thing out from them since the launch of the SPro.
Not even android updates, which means that the S10 is stuck on HC and the SPro is stuck on GB while they're both only about a year old each.
in that case we all streak owner should pressure Dell to release all the data to the developer. i dying want full working ICS or JB on my streak!
nsxt99 said:
in that case we all streak owner should pressure Dell to release all the data to the developer. i dying want full working ICS or JB on my streak!
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Dell is the wrong target. They probably don't have any sources at all. It doesn't matter if Dell stopps their android-future, they are basically resellers. The company qisda (former benq) is still manufactoring the next generation of these devices and sell them on asian markets (example: Sky IM-T100K Vega NO.5) . They won't give us hardware specific sources on the austin-plattform, as long are descendants out there which could - for example - be unlocked with the full knowleage about the Streak.
Its better that they drop the Business, their devices are quite bad. I had a streak 7 and it was
a pain in the a$$. But they should release the data, so good developers could make a usable rom
Well, I have a number of other android devices, and even if less powerful, my DS5 still for some reason is my favourite. The screen is gorgeous and battery life is more than OK. For as long as we continue to get updates from our beloved developers, my Streaks are here to stay. I would say more: every time someone sells their device and pushes the second hand prices down a little bit, I get happier: eventually I will be retro-upgrading my entire family and friends to great DS5s!
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exebreez said:
Its better that they drop the Business, their devices are quite bad. I had a streak 7 and it was
a pain in the a$$. But they should release the data, so good developers could make a usable rom
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There was nothing pain in the butt about the 7 for anyone that bothered to take the time to learn a little... I have 2 of them and except for the resolution its just as nice as my Nexus 7
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Anyone else want to throw up when they read about how Samsung invented the "phablet" (Galaxy Note)? Dell crashed and burned in a market that could have been very lucrative for them.
marvin02 said:
Anyone else want to throw up when they read about how Samsung invented the "phablet" (Galaxy Note)? Dell crashed and burned in a market that could have been very lucrative for them.
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I used to
But i i think if Samsung is bold enough for that - they have the right, it's business world.
And Samsung makes phones and don't outsource the whole thing.
In short: Dell didn't know what it selled. And Samsung knows.
I hope this makes sense
Makes perfect sense to me.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2013/jan/08/2013-year-phablet
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
Makes perfect sense to me.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2013/jan/08/2013-year-phablet
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Nice article, we were trendsetters and (I) knew that back then, only Dell didn't knew what they had and kept calling it a mini tablet
I'm not into conspiracy, but:
Note was released right after Streak EOL'ed.
Streak had good sales in at least GB (afaik).
Dell didn't market the device right.
As for Note it was a real marketing spree even here, in Ukraine.
Maybe a corporate deal?
We have Gingerbread due to Olleh stock leftovers. And two Indian coders.
Dell is not really opensource and that's not good.
Judging from tech responces i had for my requests - tech sup fully located in India and i didn't get an answer - only kernel source folder was renamed
Next, PC/desktop end even server market is dying now due to cloud computing and changes to the way the people work with data now.
Our company itself moved about 1000 accounts to Google, effectively minimizing support costs.
Dell still has a chance, but hooking with Windows 8 RT is not wise - as Windows is mostly used for obsolete/legacy/outdated accounting software (at least here) and RT is just not compatible with x86 code. And Microsoft cares only for their only profit. Nokia (i think most possibly prolific MS partner, and it's brand still valuable here) tries to remarket already available solutions from other cloud vendors by giving them fancy names. It's fun
Dell will follow HP if they won't get to the train.
And i don't really know why did i write all this
Dell hoisted themselves on their own petard by ditching Android in favor of Windows RT. It's like I said when this post first appeared.
"Things like this happen when you're a large corporation incapable of quickly adapting to a changing environment."
Dell banking on Windows 8 RT to prop up its business is proof that they are not adapting quickly enough. Tablets with Windows 8 RT or even full-blown Windows 8 simply are not selling well, no matter how much Microsoft candy-coats the numbers. Windows 8 and Windows RT tablets are too heavy and too power hungry for the average consumer to want to use for an extended period of time.
Dell are slowly coming to grips with the fact that customer computing habits have changed, but the changes they are making are incremental, and only designed to retain their existing business. They had an opportunity to be at the forefront of the new wave of computing by offering a device in a convenient form factor. Now they're simply irrelevant.