Just read this before you ask questions. - Wildfire General

Hi all xda members, i just like to help you to solve your problems as fast as possible. Being answered correctly and being solved fastly and accurately.
I am putting this because i had found large number of posts in which people got in trouble, just because they havent asked their doubts correctly. Also not all phones have same specifications so that a common answer may not be applicable for every one to solve problems.
So its all about the way of asking a question in the forum. Please read and follow these whether you are posting a new thread or just in middle of a discussion.
Always read stickies before you post. They are put on top because they can solve most of your doubts, and they can help you to understand what you should/ shouldn't do.
Before asking a question please mention your wildfire specifications including.
Rom
Kernal
Radio
Hboot
S-on / s- off
Tweaks / coustomizations you installed.
Memory card partitions info.
Then you must explain what happened,when you try what.
Eg. My phone got boot loop error when i installed "xxxx script"
If you are trying to learn some thing never ask in parts, ask fully.
Eg. I want to flash a new custom rom, so from where i should start. And never ask like this ; "i cant instal xxxx rom in my phone. Pls help".
Just make intentions clearely.
Dont blame those who helped you for the reason that they asked you to do a thing and you have done some thing else, which may caused you some problems.
Always remember that a straight and clear question will always give you a staight and clear answer.
If you follow these ways of asking questions , i assure that you may not get into trouble.so folow these simple rules. Be happy.
Regards
Shah.

Good point.
Rom: htc_wwe 2.22.405.1
Kernel: 2.6.32.21-g0f9e9b5 [email protected] #1 Tue Nov 30 13:53:39 CST 2010(!) sooo last year
Radio: well yeah it has a radio I'm pretty sure
Hboot: 0.80.0002
S-on / s- off: ON
Tweaks: replaced sense launcher with launcher2+protips from AVD, rooted, installed live wallpaper support, 'bout it.
So, how come the development board is just for posting ROMs and not for instance custom apps or other app-not-rom related hacking? htc_wwe is different from aosp, you know.

Mmmmm because there is a section called wildfire themes and apps.
Sent from my HTC Wildfire using XDA App

Yes, but looking at it as a development board the snr is abysmal.

Most wildfire developers have moved on to bigger and better phones, what we have left is a small group of equally talented and dedicated developers who are still trying to squeeze life from our "old" phones, there's the app section here which isn't very active because most of the people that can develop for wildfire are busy working on roms.
There is another section on xda called android apps and games I think, that's where I find new apps that are currently being developed.
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Well, on average I use a phone for 3 years before moving to a newer model. But as an app developer it's sad to see that for Android you really need to have several different devices in order to truly make your app work for everyone. The Java mantra "write once - run everywhere" does NOT apply (nor does it really work that way on any java platform for that matter). How many times do you read comments such as "does not work on my droid incredible! Bloody murder and death!" in the market? The safest way to make any app is to use HTML, CSS, JavaScript, some other language which begins with a P and a good database to go with it such as PostgreSQL. This has the huge advantage of a more direct "delivery model" as well, rather then going through a market and hoping that someone will find you (and install the updates later on).
Or maybe I suck as a developer and should rather be doing something else. Though many (perhaps even most) apps on the market have likely been written by even bigger idiots then me.

I agree its a daft model, half the apps the market wont let me download because of screen Res etc etc work absolutely fine and a quarter of the other half could probably be fixed by simply decompiling and making slight adjustments to the code, now I'm not a developer, never will be but I can read instructions well and am pretty sure I could make slight adjustments myself but the point is I shouldn't have to..........
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You would have to reverse-engineer the apk back to readable Java, make sense of it all, hack it and hopefully it'll work when you get it to run again. Most of the time, it's probably not going to be worthwhile. For small UI changes you'd only have to decompile the resources and fix the layouts most of the time. This is how crude theme hacks are done (by changing the style xml).
But if it's for a phone, it's still just that. The apparatus was designed as a communication device to tell Scotty 2 to beam up and it does that brilliantly (although there aren't any spaceships flying around the galaxy quite yet that we know of). I counted 211 apps on mine (in the "drawer") so even if I theoretically had 8 hours of time to spend with my phone every day I'd still only have 2 minutes and 16 seconds to play with each one including startup and teardown time until the next day. But as a matter of fact I, for one, do use activities not related to communications more often then those which do. Android tablets (even pre-honeycomb ones) make perfect sense.
tl;dr: don't

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Htc hd2 android for dummies

OK.....People on and creators of this forum automatically assume that everyone knows what all of these terms and different words are? Speaking for myself only, I am patent my self as being a pretty smart guy I am in college and I have a pretty decent GPA, but I play football and study marketing. I dont know nor do I have to figure out how to do flash my phone etc. Is there not a cab or a simple way to get android on the HD2. I currently have the Samsung Vibrant and HD2 and are torn between the 2. I want the HD2 hardware but like the vibrant software. Is there not a simple way or can I pay someone in the Dallas TX area to put a WORKING version of Android on my phone. Or is there a simple way step by step broken down lamest terms way to do this. I am overwhelmed with all of the stuff on this website. I know i can probably sit down and read and figure out how to do all of this but I dont have the time nor patience. I JUST WANT THE WORKING ANDROID ON MY DEVICE. CAN SOME ONE PLEASE HELP ME???????????i WILL PAY SOMEONE
At this time, Android on the HD2 is neither worth your time, or patience. The reason I say that is because pretty much every build is nothing like a native device; it will have bugs, freezes, etc.
Either you invest some time, and a little patience, or just spend the money on Android native.
Good luck!
Well you should reconsider the "pretty smart guy" part.
There is a stickied thread ★★★The Definitve Guide To Android On HTC HD2 ★★★ which cant be easier to understand.
If you cant make it following this super easy guide, you should buy native ANDROID device or just use your winmo.
KowboyBebop said:
Well you should reconsider the "pretty smart guy" part.
There is a stickied thread ★★★The Definitve Guide To Android On HTC HD2 ★★★ which cant be easier to understand.
If you cant make it following this super easy guide, you should buy native ANDROID device or just use your winmo.
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The subliminal criticism isnt necessary homie...chill out
lockb05 said:
OK.....People on and creators of this forum automatically assume that everyone knows what all of these terms and different words are? Speaking for myself only, I am patent my self as being a pretty smart guy I am in college and I have a pretty decent GPA, but I play football and study marketing. I dont know nor do I have to figure out how to do flash my phone etc. Is there not a cab or a simple way to get android on the HD2. I currently have the Samsung Vibrant and HD2 and are torn between the 2. I want the HD2 hardware but like the vibrant software. Is there not a simple way or can I pay someone in the Dallas TX area to put a WORKING version of Android on my phone. Or is there a simple way step by step broken down lamest terms way to do this. I am overwhelmed with all of the stuff on this website. I know i can probably sit down and read and figure out how to do all of this but I dont have the time nor patience. I JUST WANT THE WORKING ANDROID ON MY DEVICE. CAN SOME ONE PLEASE HELP ME???????????i WILL PAY SOMEONE
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For being "a pretty smart" guy you've got horrible spelling and grammar.
You say you are patient but contradict yourself in the same post by saying "I dont have the time nor patience."
I didn't know any of terms used here last week, but as someone said earlier the instructions xda provides is more than enough to understand whats going on. Just use your brain and read. Otherwise, just get a real android phone.
vdawg7 said:
For being "a pretty smart" guy you've got horrible spelling and grammar.
You say you are patient but contradict yourself in the same post by saying "I dont have the time nor patience."
I didn't know any of terms used here last week, but as someone said earlier the instructions xda provides is more than enough to understand whats going on. Just use your brain and read. Otherwise, just get a real android phone.
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I said I "patent"(maybe grammar and spelling isnt your thing either) my self on being a pretty smart guy, meaning I dont know everything......Computers is one of my weak points ..... I just want android homie Im not trying to waste my time bickering with someone online I got waaaaaaay more important things to do like studying and making good grades on this FULL scholarship I have, and whether my grammar and spelling is perfect or not Im about to have a degree and graduate school with 0 loans and when I get drafted Im sure I can get some one to put android on my hd2.
lets say I do all those steps posted in those links....does android work good yet? All those steps and stuff overwhelm me
lockb05 said:
I said I "patent"(maybe grammar and spelling isnt your thing either) my self on being a pretty smart guy, meaning I dont know everything......Computers is one of my weak points ..... I just want android homie Im not trying to waste my time bickering with someone online I got waaaaaaay more important things to do like studying and making good grades on this FULL scholarship I have, and whether my grammar and spelling is perfect or not Im about to have a degree and graduate school with 0 loans and when I get drafted Im sure I can get some one to put android on my hd2.
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Actually, grammar and spelling is my thing. I'm a court reporter, and when I see your post it drives me bananas. You should seriously focus more on your schooling.
So, let me get this straight...
You want android on your phone, but you don't want to do anything? Think about that for a second.
Nobody here can help you because you are basically asking someone to physically do it for you. The guides provided on this website are more than enough.
As I stated before, I didn't even know what a ROM was last week. If you are so impatient, then just move on. This is not for the computer illiterate.
First thing I'm doing to say: Don't rush into it. I've put down some simple steps, but learn a bit about each stage before you do it. I'm not going to accept responsibility if you do something wrong.
Step 1: HSPL your device. Follow this guide with this HSPL.
Step 2: Flash a radio. I'm using 2.12.50.02_2.
Step 3: Download an Android build. I use Darkstone Froyo v1 with Cotulla's latest zImage (as of 03/08 [DD/MM])..
Step 4: Stick the build on your SD card, and replace the old zImage with the new one.
Step 5: Via WM, run clrcad (nothing will show up, it's normal) and then haret.
how do we install apps like keyboard apks in hd2 android builds?
i cant find the answer on the forum..
Put the apk on your SD card and use the app "File Manager" to locate and run the file.
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Put the apk on your SD card and use the app "File Manager" to locate and run the file.
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yup, finally figured it out.. i was actually wondering where in the sd card to put the file..
lockb05 said:
OK.....People on and creators of this forum automatically assume that everyone knows what all of these terms and different words are? Speaking for myself only, I am patent my self as being a pretty smart guy I am in college and I have a pretty decent GPA, but I play football and study marketing. I dont know nor do I have to figure out how to do flash my phone etc. Is there not a cab or a simple way to get android on the HD2. I currently have the Samsung Vibrant and HD2 and are torn between the 2. I want the HD2 hardware but like the vibrant software. Is there not a simple way or can I pay someone in the Dallas TX area to put a WORKING version of Android on my phone. Or is there a simple way step by step broken down lamest terms way to do this. I am overwhelmed with all of the stuff on this website. I know i can probably sit down and read and figure out how to do all of this but I dont have the time nor patience. I JUST WANT THE WORKING ANDROID ON MY DEVICE. CAN SOME ONE PLEASE HELP ME???????????i WILL PAY SOMEONE
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there are so much info to get you going instead of trying to tell everyone you are pretty smart but yet try getting someone to fully baby sit you, this is really strange? very strange indeed!
lockb05 said:
OK.....People on and creators of this forum automatically assume that everyone knows what all of these terms and different words are? Speaking for myself only, I am patent my self as being a pretty smart guy I am in college and I have a pretty decent GPA, but I play football and study marketing. I dont know nor do I have to figure out how to do flash my phone etc. Is there not a cab or a simple way to get android on the HD2. I currently have the Samsung Vibrant and HD2 and are torn between the 2. I want the HD2 hardware but like the vibrant software. Is there not a simple way or can I pay someone in the Dallas TX area to put a WORKING version of Android on my phone. Or is there a simple way step by step broken down lamest terms way to do this. I am overwhelmed with all of the stuff on this website. I know i can probably sit down and read and figure out how to do all of this but I dont have the time nor patience. I JUST WANT THE WORKING ANDROID ON MY DEVICE. CAN SOME ONE PLEASE HELP ME???????????i WILL PAY SOMEONE
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alright bro, check it out... HD2 Forum is not the only place to learn about android. There are plenty of forums on XDA that will provide an ample amount of information about what you are looking for. As far as a cab, there is no such thing as a simple cab to just install android as an app.
Easiest thing to do is to read and search. If you dont know a term, google is your friend. here is a start thread - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=728813
FWIW (for what its worth) I will post my setup -
Base ROM - NRG Barebones WinMo
Radio - 2.10.50.26
Android Build - shubi-CyanogenRC2
SDcard - Class 10 4GB
DualBoot app - depends which one i am testing
Please read the information on flashing a radio and a ROM before you ask how to do it or come back and say that your phone wont power on. All information is here on XDA, if you dont bother to read, I wont bother to help (sounds rude, but I can only do so much via a PC).
Best of luck, and if you are still completely lost, hit me up via gtalk - [email protected]
this thread is pure win, lol
it underlines the fact that reading makes smarter
also, that asking uncle google always help
but without knowledge of fact one, fact two is senseless.
If your willing to pay ... Why dont you buy a HTC Desire it has Andriod 2.1 fully working .. No bugs .. You even get support ... And it has simular hardware as HD2
Or wait till Motorolla launches its "almost same as IgayPad thing" wich runs Andriod 3.0
Really changing your HD2 wont work without spending some hours reading into stuff. Because when you **** it up .. And believe me it will happen at least once .. You do need to know how to handle and get you phone back to working.
And stop flaming. Trivial questions are asked all the time and we (if i may speak onbehave others) are getting a lil sick of it. It fills up good dev threats till its hardly readable.
Btw sorry for my bad englisch its not my native language
lockb05 said:
OK.....People on and creators of this forum automatically assume that everyone knows what all of these terms and different words are? Speaking for myself only, I am patent my self as being a pretty smart guy I am in college and I have a pretty decent GPA, but I play football and study marketing. I dont know nor do I have to figure out how to do flash my phone etc. Is there not a cab or a simple way to get android on the HD2. I currently have the Samsung Vibrant and HD2 and are torn between the 2. I want the HD2 hardware but like the vibrant software. Is there not a simple way or can I pay someone in the Dallas TX area to put a WORKING version of Android on my phone. Or is there a simple way step by step broken down lamest terms way to do this. I am overwhelmed with all of the stuff on this website. I know i can probably sit down and read and figure out how to do all of this but I dont have the time nor patience. I JUST WANT THE WORKING ANDROID ON MY DEVICE. CAN SOME ONE PLEASE HELP ME???????????i WILL PAY SOMEONE
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Uhh, you might want to just stick to the Samsung Vibrant buddy. IMO the hardware in the Vibrant is superior overall. Sure the HD2 has an extra 64MB of RAM, and an extra .3" of screen space, but the Galaxy S series of phones (what the Vibrant is part of) have that nice SAMOLED screen, 802.11 b/g/n, bluetooth 3.0 support, 720p video recording (which WM cannot do, regardless if the camera CAN support it), and a large storage capacity...16GB I think. Then there is Samsung's Hummingbird processor vs Qualcomm's Snapdragon processor, and more importantly, The PowerVR SGX540 GPU (in the Vibrant, and all other Galaxy S devices) vs the Adreno 200 GPU (formerly AMD z430 and the GPU for the current Snapdragon CPU's, which the HD2 uses). You should research it yourself, but I'll go ahead and tell you Samsung's Hummingbird wins.
OK...to shut you up and do the reading for you... it doesnt take long to work out.
1) Download HSPL
2) Download Radio
3) Download ROM
4) Format SD Card
5) Download Android or Froyo Build to SD Card
Android - Straight on SD card
Froyo - Put in Android folder on root
Take the leap/risk, its totally worth it.
I asked process questions 2 days ago, but I did the homework and reading behind it rather than moaning. Nobody cares if you play American handball.
READ the forums and advice people are giving you! It takes NO MORE than 10minutes for complete the whole process.
PS. Extra advice. Create a folder on your desktop with sub folders for each section (HSPL, Radio, ROM, Build). Makes things a little bit easier to follow.
@wilwilwel
He wilwilwel,
I have to disagree with you. If you read the forums and understand the process of it (read my previous reply on this forum) it doesnt take any time at all. There is no risk at all, Android works absolutly fine on the HD2, granted its still early days and development still needs to take place on the software.
Take the risk, the worst that could happen to your HD2 is you have an awesome ROM on it which is much much better than the original HD2 software.
I empathize completely with the OP. There is a lot of technobabble that is thrown around on the forums. It is something that can be intimidating to a newcomer. It doesn't help that everything on here comes with warnings about potential destroying your very expensive device.
I don't know about others, but reading all the documentation in the world won't help me learn a process unless I see an example of it being done. Luckily, there are tons of videos on YouTube showing you in real time how to flash a new custom ROM and Android on your HD2.
The methods of getting Android on your phone really are made for dummies, you just have to cut through the jargon.

[Update] Making a ROM Development Team [1/9/11]

My first post seemed kinds pushy, sorry about that.
So right now I'm looking for a few different peeps. Mostly just people who know or are in the process of learning Android, beta-testers, And somebody to update everything on the web (Twitter, The Website in a lot of areas, and maybe even youtube). If it sounds like something you'd like to do, then PM me and you're on the team or send an e-mail to [email protected] We'll probably update the current FroYo ROM then head straight to Gingerbread. Maybe in the future, a Gingerbread Sense ROM? Anyways, development will kickstart on the 20th, with or without a team.
Name: Infinimod Development
Website: http://www.infinimod.com/
Google Code: http://www.code.google.com/p/mintyfresh-roms
Thanks for reading and showing interest.
Soooo, anyways... this is the reason I havent replied to anyone who applied in a month in a half.
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Update - 1/8/11
ROM Development has been totally stopped for almost one and a half months now. This was not an intention of mine whatsoever. The reason behind everything is that my HTC Dream broke to a point where I could no longer develop on it, and being a new developer, I did not want to take any risks by releasing untested ROMs. Due to a lack of beta testers, all development was halted. The only reason I released v1.0.4 was because xillius200 kindly tested it for me and reported it stable (for the most part). So yesterday I talked with a guy I know who has a T-Mobile MyTouch 3G. The screen on his phone is entirely broken (LCD & Digitizer). He told me that he's going to be buying an iPhone off of Craigslist.com and that he'd give me the MyTouch 3G for free. So he gave me the phone and in the meantime he will be using my extra carrier unlocked Sony Ericcson w580i (lol) until he gets it. So I already ordered the parts (which cost me $60) and they'll arrive around January 17th-21st (most likely sooner) and I'll fix it and root it. So I plan on kickstarting development on the 20th. We'll (or I'll) probably update FigMint then head straight to Gingerbread. Maybe in the future, a Gingerbread Sense ROM? But I can't accomplish all of this alone, although I have the motivation. So anyone who wants to help, feel free to E-mail me at [email protected] For more info on becoming staff, check out the staff page. Also, in case you hav'nt noticed, this is now a .com domain, I'll be working on getting a few other cool things for the team, but a .com website is a good start. Anyways, until next time, cheers.
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Are you planning on making a rom like the MUIU roms? (Not exactly like that rom, but something like a complete change with the UI etc) or just a rom that is similar to CM and awsm is just added to it? (if so, might as well work with them)
I'm not trying to sound like an ass, I'm just giving you my opinion. It's hard to sense it when you read from the internet!
I really don't think this is worth it to be honest especially when you want everyone to have a G1 which is becoming really outdated. Most people with good programming knowledge have probably already moved on to newer devices. There really isn't a point in developing for a device like this anymore, (especially when you yourself don't even have the device) just my two cents. If you're doing it just to have fun, might as well work on something newer.
Well, I'm planning on buying a new G1 or MyTouch 3G this month so I have something until I get my EVO or whatevers out. The only thing broken on my G1 is the microSD reader and the screen has a crack. There is still a lot of development going on for the G1 and MyTouch allthough they are old phones. The bright side of them is that if your phone breaks you can buy a new one for really cheap. And having a G1 as a requirement (or 32b mytouch) isn't that bad, that's why it's posted in the G1 section because allmost everyone here has one. As for UI sure I'd like to change some things but that isn't until later, for now it's speed and functionallity. I see where you're coming from though.
Sent from my T-Mobile G1 using XDA App
Interesting... GTalk me, [email protected]
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I'm not trying to be mean here, but, this group will never really aspire with a dev rom for a device such as the G1. You are limited to so many things now and the community has pretty much seen it all by now. Many Community roms have been tried, and never really went anywhere. I just suggest you think this over before potentially wasting your time. I'm not trying to bring you down here, but I doubt this project will last very long. You can do it by all means for experience.
It might not make it anywhere, but then again, everyone has to start from somewhere. It may or may not be a very long project seeing how I'll be getting an EVO and a Google TV soon, and I have a super packed schedule and a life. But it's fun as a little side-hobby. It's not total dedication to making ROMs for the G1/Saphirre because if I spent 24/7 doing that then it would be a waste of time. I guess what I'm trying to say is that sure there's a hell of a lot of ROMs out there and sure they have Dev's who spend countless hours making changes to their ROM's, I'm not saying any names (Cyanogen ). But who cares. Why do you think people have ROM Flashing Disorder and what not, because "this ROM has this feature and one ROM has that feature" and "I like the way this one looks but it's really laggy". Why not just make a really chill dev team that has half of it consisting of people who are practically end-users, and finding out what people really want. Then relaxing and editing a ROM while drinking some coffee or eating some tacos, or even both 0_o. It's not a full-on community project unless you want it to be btw. And on the other side, it's a great learning expierience and can help aid people in the future XD.
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infinimint said:
so, as the title says, i'm making a rom development team. Reason being is that: 1) i've always wanted to :d. 2) my g1 broke (i dropped it) and until i get a new phone i need some people to be my lab rats and test my (soon to be an "our") rom . 3) it's fun and it's a great learning experience.
I am located in california, us. Pst utc -8. I can only speak english. I consider myself a novice developer and i work with linux, mac, & windows. I know very little of c++ & java.
I need:
website updater: you optionally get to try the latest rom before anyone else. This is the easiest job of them all, all you have to do is update the blog, twitter, google code, and a few docs on google code. This altogether only takes 5-15 minutes to do.
novice beta testers: get to try the latest rom earlier than everyone else and give a basic what works and what doesn't. And maybe give suggestions of things that you or the end-user would like to see in new releases.
advanced beta testers: get to try the latest rom earlier than everyone else and give full detail reports on any bugs, errors, fc's, logs, etc. And possibly even list things causing other things to go wrong and possible fixes.
novice developers: get to try the latest rom earlier than everyone else and give app enhancements, ui enhancements, and fairly basic rom edits.
advanced developers: get to try the latest rom earlier than everyone else and write, edit, and troubleshoot code within the rom. You need to know at least some basic programming lanuguage, preferably java. You don't have to be cyanogen, but you need to know what you're doing if you know what i mean.
Spots left:
Website updater: 1
novice beta tester: 2
advanced beta tester: 2
novice developer: 2
advanced developer: 2
pm me with your application. You must have a htc dream (g1) unless you are a website updater, and must be able to speak english.
Application:
Name: (username)
position: (ex: Novice beta tester)
e-mail: (ex: [email protected])
time zone (location ex: Utc -8):
Instant messenger: (ex: [email protected])
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中国用户表示毫无压力。
super bump 0_o
You still want help? I am available, currently on Neopeek-Team also with little bit (little bit..) of experience.
Hey dude, email me at [email protected], I'm a graphic designer willing to lend a hand.
Sent from my HTC Dream using XDA App
PM sent. I'm not extremely Android savvy, but I'm willing to do the website part of things and maybe do some alpha/beta testing.
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Switching to Android

Aaaah I hear you say, another one, it's about time, welcome to the dark side, etc etc... Yeah yeah I know, it's about time I went from WM6.5 to Android.
Reasons why I stayed with Windows ? I liked the sync between MsOutlook and my device using USB and NOT "the cloud". Sadly the new versions of Windows (7 and 8) don't allow this anymore so I reluctantly joined "the cloud" (Google Apps for Education, it's free).
Now, I am ready to switch to Android, but, ... which version ? which ROM ? how does it install ? straightfoward ?
Can anyone recommend a good ROM that :
- contains HTC Sense
- is fast
- is easy to install (go easy guys, I work, live and breathe Msoft, it's my job, yeah I know, but it pays the bills)
- is in English
- is up-to-date
- is free
Thanks very much.
PS : I'd rather keep my history (SMS mostly) as they contain a lot of info, so far I've used PPCPimBackup, does that work cross-platform ?
Boags.
if you still want to keep WM you can boot Android within it, there are many tutorials around here, also be careful if your using a tmobile verions a wrong radio culd brick your phone.
here's one that you could try
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1986437
or check out the links below if you want to even multi boot your phone
mengfei said:
if you still want to keep WM you can boot Android within it, there are many tutorials around here, also be careful if your using a tmobile verions a wrong radio culd brick your phone.
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Thanks, I'm happy just formatting WM6, no dual boot.
It's not a Tmobile it was bought without a plan or anything so I'm pretty free in that regard.
Any suggestion for a "clean install" ROM ?
I'm pretty sure nobody's thinking 'it's about time, welcome to the dark side' but more along the lines of 'oh FFS, another thread asking about the best ROM and how to install it'. If you'd have searched, you'd have found a few hundred threads exactly like this, and multiple guides on installing Android.
Anyway, try the guide in my sig for an easy installation process (also read the new user guide too). Nobody can tell you the best ROM (that's entirely subjective) or a 'fast' Sense based ROM (well at least not in my opinion).
Boags said:
- contains HTC Sense
- is fast
PS : I'd rather keep my history (SMS mostly) as they contain a lot of info, so far I've used PPCPimBackup, does that work cross-platform ?
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AFAIK Sense is a bit slow in Android on the HD2, and other options are better, try them and judge for yourself.
As for SMS, this is what I used when I made the switch long time ago, and it worked smoothly.
http://android.riteshsahu.com/tips/importexportmove-sms-messages-from-windows-mobile-to-android
Good luck
Nigeldg said:
I'm pretty sure nobody's thinking 'it's about time, welcome to the dark side' but more along the lines of 'oh FFS, another thread asking about the best ROM and how to install it'. If you'd have searched, you'd have found a few hundred threads exactly like this, and multiple guides on installing Android.
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Right, no need to be rude, I'm sure you've never asked a previously answered question in your life...
Nigeldg said:
Anyway, try the guide in my sig for an easy installation process (also read the new user guide too). Nobody can tell you the best ROM (that's entirely subjective) or a 'fast' Sense based ROM (well at least not in my opinion).
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Thanks, I'll read all that material.
AthenaLod said:
AFAIK Sense is a bit slow in Android on the HD2, and other options are better, try them and judge for yourself.
As for SMS, this is what I used when I made the switch long time ago, and it worked smoothly.
http://android.riteshsahu.com/tips/importexportmove-sms-messages-from-windows-mobile-to-android
Good luck
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Aah, thanks for that constructive input, I thought Sense was HTC's best stuff, I'll try your ROM and let you know.:good:
Boags.
If you want a rom you can customize visually, try MIUI. It has a tons of themes so you won't get bored easily, it even has an HTC sense theme. If not try one of the CM builds. Gingerbread roms are more stable but if you want the newer android features like Google Now and some new apps do require ICS+ go for one of the ICS or Jellybean builds. If i were you i'd just try a few roms before completely settling on one and installing all your data etc.
OKay thank you both for your help. I managed to install "Nexus JellyBean" on my HD2... It wasn't as straightforward as I'd hope (there are a lot of prerequisites to Android, it's not just next-next-next you're done but anyways).
So yeah it runs, everything works, but there's a bit "but". It's slow as hell. And I mean sluggishly slow. I've only connected to Gmail, Hotmail and Facebook. Nothing else. No GPS, no WiFi, nothing.
A test : on the main screen, open Gmail. Wait for four seconds for the emails to be displayed. Close Gmail (there is no "close" application in fact, once it's opened, it stays as an open process and runs in the background). Open "Internet" and wait for ten seconds for google.com to be opened (either on Wifi or on 3G). Go back to the main screen takes forever again, then open Gmail again, wait for another five seconds, etc etc etc.
Seriously, it's bloody awful.
So, maybe it's because the HD2 wasn't meant to run on Android and I'd be better off with WM65, or maybe this build of Android isn't the fastest I can find, but then, can anyone tell me what build I should be running ? There seems to be so freaking many available it's no wonder "noobs" like me ask silly questions "which is best"..
I just booted the HD2, went to Settings/Apps/RAM : 235used and 174free... And I haven't even started using any apps...
So far then, not convinced...
I won't get into the details bec theres already tons of threads about it but
Have you flashed a new radio that unlocks the HD2 ram to 512mb?
As I said, Gingerbread roms are the most stable and fastest so I suggest you go for one of them. ICS & Jelly roms aren't 100% there yet.
I'd suggest installing on nand with data on EXT partition if your SD card isn't that fast.
Txs, i don't know, I thought I had it flashed under WM65 :
NexusHD2
Android 4.1.2
Baseband 15.42.50.11U_2.15.50.14
Kernel 2.6.32.tytung_jellybean_r1
CPU ARMv7
Mem 410mb
Cyanogen 10.0.0-leo
Build date 07/12/2012
Build nr JZ054K (NexusHD2-JellyBean v1.3a) [DataOnExt]
None of these mean much to me, I'm still learning
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I won't get into the details bec theres already tons of threads about it but
Have you flashed a new radio that unlocks the HD2 ram to 512mb?
As I said, Gingerbread roms are the most stable and fastest so I suggest you go for one of them. ICS & Jelly roms aren't 100% there yet.
I'd suggest installing on nand with data on EXT partition if your SD card isn't that fast.
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1. He must have a .50 radio if he's successfully running NAND Android.
2. It unlocks 576MB of RAM, not 512.
@OP, Either go for GB or basically learn to live with it if you want the latest and greatest Android version. GB will be faster and more stable for daily use BUT won't have HWA so you won't have anywhere near as smooth an experience in web browsing and gaming. For your own sake don't go for a Sense ROM, they're just as 'slow' as JB or ICS. MIUI and CM7 are both great, I personally prefer CM but it's really down to your preference. Try them both then make a decision. CM has less eye candy and is far less iOS like but both are fast.
Okay thanks, slowly learning the "language"
Currently dowloading "Gingerbread" (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=905060) and wiping "JellyBean"... (the guy who finds these names should get a job at the place where they name tropical cyclones:laugh
Keep you posted.
If you need any help with 'learning the language' check the guide in my sig which says 'A guide to all of the terms for the HD2'. It makes things pretty simple, and definitely helped me quite a lot the first time round.
So I "downgraded" from Jellybean to Gingerbread and though it's not superfast it's a lot better.
How can I tell my radio is the version that "unleashes" the max RAM ? I recall it was the latest available on WM65...
Any "tweaks" to make it faster ? A few apps often hang for a couple of seconds before they're available...
Still, it's a pretty cool platform I must agree, a shame Msoft never could be as good. Haven't seen the new WM though...
Thanks for all your help, and have a great 2013 !:good:
Don't worry, you definitely have a compatible radio version. The guy who posted about the RAM thing earlier was basically just spamming for 10 posts.
Not to confuse you, but if you want speed, stability and functionality and don't use many apps then Windows Phone may actually be the way to go. There are obviously some apps which simply aren't available on Windows Phone yet including huge ones like Instagram and (I think) Temple Run but the OS is really wonderful to use and beats Android in terms of fluidity.
Anyway, congrats on flashing and sorry about the rudeness of my first post in this thread
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Don't worry, you definitely have a compatible radio version. The guy who posted about the RAM thing earlier was basically just spamming for 10 posts.
Not to confuse you, but if you want speed, stability and functionality and don't use many apps then Windows Phone may actually be the way to go. There are obviously some apps which simply aren't available on Windows Phone yet including huge ones like Instagram and (I think) Temple Run but the OS is really wonderful to use and beats Android in terms of fluidity.
Anyway, congrats on flashing and sorry about the rudeness of my first post in this thread
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Sweet, so this is as best as it will ever get I suppose. Not a LOT slower than WM65 in reality, just a tad. Loads more potential tho, with the widgets and apps and stuff out there. I'll keep it simple anyways.
Still, you're probably the only person who, though a true Linux-Android fan, has publicly admitted Microsoft does it better, well in some occasions anyways : speed and stability is what most "professional" crowd need (a smartphone that does push-email, sync their contacts database and calendar with whatever server they're using, with the occasional websurfing, facebooking, tweeting or linkedin-ing).
Having worked with Msoft for over 15 years now, I had to try Android to at least understand what the fuss was all about, well I've seen it. I'll keep it for now, but I'm not convinced I won't switch back to WM one day.
I tried NeXTstep and BeOS once, loved them both as they were way ahead of their times, but sadly they could never been used as a professional tool. I think I can say the same for Android...
PS @Nigeldg, don't sweat it bro. No offence taken.
Yeah I think people often make the mistake of assuming that all fans of one thing simply hate the alternative, which often isn't true. Different things suit different people, I'd definitely recommend an iOS or Windows Phone to my Mum for example over an Android phone because they're more simple. I can only really respect someone's opinion when they know that there are always arguments for and against a certain point, if they don't then there's really very little valid input they can make in any discussion.
Also, I don't think you should really judge Android by your experience with the HD2, that would be like making a decision between a PS3 and an Xbox based on having played Viva Pinata on the Xbox and Killzone on the PS3. Android is a very nice OS and you really need the hardware to appreciate it. Having used Android on a GNex and a Nexus 4 (which I'm still waiting to order ) I can safely say it's now as smooth as iOS and Windows Phone if you get a decent phone.
Hi,
why don't you use WM6.x and Android on the same phone (via dualboot/tripleboot/...)? You can use the advantages of both OS and only need to wait 1 min. to boot the other one... see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=33988958
I use different Android-Versions, because no version can all I need... and I use WM, because I have some great payed apps... it's great...
Cheers Klaus
Sent from my HTC HD2 using xda app-developers app
I don't want dual boot because I'm not looking for one solution, this exercise was just to test if a) I was able to do it, b) Android has what I need.
The answer is yes for the first questions (with help), but the second question has mixed results. Yes it runs, and yes I can do what I was doing on WM, but nothing more. Which leads me to my next question when I do decide to replace the HD2 by a new phone (because I need 4G and because I like new things, don't we all) : will I buy an Android or a Windows-based phone ?
My next challenge would be to test an iPhone

Ive been Really Loving my Nexus 10 but Im really need help on a couple of things

So my Grandmother wanted to give me a good present for Christmas this Year and She asked if I wanted a Ipad (I really didnt want anything, I was already pretty content overall) but she wouldnt let up about it so I figured that I didnt want to be like all the other drones in my School using only apple (nothing against apple but their hasnt been Change in their products in 5 years). I saw many adds for the Nexus 10 and its popularity so I thought I would give it a shot and if I was dissapointed I could return it to Amazon and once I did get it I was IN Love. The Nexus 10 seemed like my kind of thing and then I started reading these forums, which are FANTASTIC , but anyway i started to see many problems with the Tablet overall (Im running Stock, this forum scared me away from the update). 1st being that the light bleed is pretty bad and there are random artifacts flashing on the screen sometimes but that isnt too noticeable, 2nd being that Ive been having extreme wifi connection drops and problems connecting to my schools network and 3rd I find it really laggy sometimes especially when using it as a notetaker with my bluetooth keyboard. 4th the Microusb sucks I had to fiddle with it just to get a charge but I just took out plyers and fixed it and I am soon getting my godd*mb Pogo Pins that shouldve been there day 1.
Lately Ive been very Intrested in the Idea of rooting it and all of the other Jazz but the problem is, Im a bit of a noob when it comes to this, I really dont understand what cynagon mod does and what to download and the other things like 'Manta, Rasberry and all those other names in relationship to the tablet and rooting'. So overall I really Just want a better understanding and help on how i should procceed because I really dont want to screw this up. Help me out by making a guide or something to really show me which steps to take.
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A good place to start would be to read through the sticky threads in both developer sections. Read, and then read some more. It is way more beneficial to do that and start to figure it out on your own than to have someone tell you how to do it. We were all noobs at some point in time, but between reading, doing, asking questions, and failing, it all starts to come together. Nearly everyone here will help, but don't jump in the lake before you can swim.
That being said:
Nearly all the issues you have described can be helped, or eliminated, through flashing different roms and/or kernels. This is really a great device once you get to know it.
Happy reading, ask the right questions, and enjoy your Christmas present.
Oh yah, don't forget to read some more.
Good luck.
OH can you also explain the relationship between a unlocked bootloader and rooting and flashing a thingy mo bobber
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"Rooting" allows you to use certain programs which access the "root" of your file system, like Titanium Backup to backup your apps.
"Unlocking your bootloader" allows you to replace the stock OS (ROM) with any custom ROM you download (like cyanogenmod) which is "flashing"
As Trickster suggested, I would start by reading thru some of the posts in this sticky.
Manta = Mantaray, which is Google's developement name for the Nexus 10.
Rasbean jelly = a version of a Rom. You can see the names of roms, kernels, etc. In the name of the thread.
Cyanogen Mod = a "brand" of Rom, based off of aosp, with there own tweaks included, which make it different from stock. This one Rom is then ported to work with many different devices, in a nutshell.
Okay finnally finished the rooting process with wugs but what now
I just need to figure out the things and roms i need to download after the root

[Q] Help Me Understand Y HD2 Considered A "Legend"?

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Phone HD2
Software = OS version 5.2.21913.5.0.94
Manila version = 2.5.20181424.0
Rom = 3.14.531.1 (04666)WWE
Rom date = 9-29-10
Radio version = 2.15.50.14
Protocol version = 15.42.50.11U
1st I would like to point out I am not extremely knowledgeable in understanding allot of the technical information xda developers has to offer & provides.
However pointed in the right direction, and explanations( mostly in laymen's terms) I can usually muddle my way through some fixes & updates.
Actually xda developers helped me in the past with a phone issue, and through the kind help of its members I was able to get my issue resolved.
So now I have returned, because while using Google to look up some information about my HD2 I ran across numerous articles and posts proclaiming the HD2 as "Legendary" and still one of the best phones being used today.
So this brings up my question/s as to why?
My last phone took a swim with me and I pulled this out of the closet until I decided on what phone to purchase next.
Truthfully I considered this phone a step above my boat anchor and could not wait until I got something else.
NOW, with all the praise that seems to follow this phone, the need to know why and what makes it special has had me thinking that maybe the thing this phone lacks the most is my inability to use it properly and update it into something I would enjoy to use.
I've owned many phones in the past, starting with a bag phone, along with Windows phones, Android phones and a Iphone4.
In the past basically I used my phone as just what it was designed to be, a phone to make calls.
Currently I still use my phone for mostly making calls and texting. I'll use it to look things up on the internet, but still prefer a computer and my large dual monitors when doing most other things.
So after this long winded intro and maybe useless information, here are the things I would like to get out of this post if possible:
#1- What changes can I do to make the phone more current and enjoyable ? (keeping in mind simple instructions for a simple mind )
I'm looking for insight on what people have done.
Maybe changed the phone to Windows 7?
Maybe making the phone android ?
ROM changes?
Software /Hardware changes?
ANY and ALL information anybody would share would be appreciated. I'm really hoping I can make some changes to the phone and start enjoying what I am currently missing out on.
However, on any recommended change could you please provide me a link or a starting point where step by step instructions are available as to how to make the change/s?
Again,many thanks in advance
Hi!
HD2 is a legend simply because it is a device that can run almost all the mobile operative sistems that are available (and not only)
as users often say, it's just like it refuses to die.
if you want to try the magic of HD2, i suggest you to start with this guide, the one I followed when rooted mine...
also, search for HD2Toolkit and for adb/fastboot drivers, very useful tools... I don't provide links because it's full of threads about this, just look around
hope I've helped and ready to help again
p.s. after installing android, for example, you'll realize how powerful HD2 is and how limiting Windows Mobile is
Two things:
1. Great specs for its time, one of the first phones with 1GHz Snapdragon processor that still holds up not that bad considering it's almost 4 years old now. I'm not complaining about performance with my HD2. That's because I'm either used to the slowness or it's not that bad or I don't have money for a new device.
2. WinMo, WP7 and Android - all available and stable on pretty much latest versions (Android can take some time to be working 100%, but it's not so behind other native Android devices which often don't get any updates at all) - this device isn't bound by the system, so when you hear two people arguing that WP7 or Android is better or discussing if they should buy an Android or WP7 phone you can just say "**** you, I can have both of them".
lukes91
I appreciate you bringing this thread to my attention.
Before I opened my thread I had run across this (and did not read all the way through) but with my limited knowledge due that it dated back to 2011 I was unsure of it's relevance.
So based on your post you prefer android vs Windows 7 install, or just using that as a example?
Thanks Spaqin,
Although now I am a little confused (then I was :laugh
You state the phone has a 1GHz Snapdragon processor
Is that the same as CPU QUALCOMM(R)8250B ?
exautomgr said:
lukes91
I appreciate you bringing this thread to my attention.
Before I opened my thread I had run across this (and did not read all the way through) but with my limited knowledge due that it dated back to 2011 I was unsure of it's relevance.
So based on your post you prefer android vs Windows 7 install, or just using that as a example?
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I do prefer android because it's open source and developers can prepare better roms in my opinion and you can personalize it
If I were you, I would install different android roms and try to find the one that bests fits my needs and my wishes...
Let me give you 2 more suggestions:
1) on this site (maybe you already know it) you can find many different roms and different versions of android
2) try not to judge a rom as you installed it, but let 4-5 days pass and perform some reboots: this way battery stats and the whole rom will succesfully settle on you device and it will give you the best performances it will be a pleasure
You make it multiboot, with WP7 and 2 or 3 android rom ( one Sense, one JB and one MIUI for example ). So you just reboot to change the OS and you can decide which one you like best.
exautomgr said:
You state the phone has a 1GHz Snapdragon processor
Is that the same as CPU QUALCOMM(R)8250B ?
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Yeah, that's the CPU. Without the B at the end though if I'm not mistaken, but that's QSD8250. So at least it's very similar to that your model.

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