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just wondering why the viewsonic tablet had root and custom roms within like 3 days of release yet the gen 8s still have nothing being done?
I'm not an expert but I think part of the reason is there are not a lot of devices out there yet. I pre-ordered mine and I am just getting it tomorrow. Also, developers have had a hard time rooting the device. Once it is rooted, you should see some roms.
That's because the VeiwSonic did not use Squashfs in read only mode. This makes it very hard to fully root. There is a temp root right now through the z4mod.
As soon as Archos releases the SDE (kind of "root"-firmware) we'll be able to root and test custom roms
I started developing DVB-T integration for Gen8, hopefully it'll be done in january
But for testing I still wait for the dvb-t stick (hauppauge nova-t stick) and my A101 and the SDE
chulri said:
As soon as Archos releases the SDE (kind of "root"-firmware) we'll be able to root and test custom roms
I started developing DVB-T integration for Gen8, hopefully it'll be done in january
But for testing I still wait for the dvb-t stick (hauppauge nova-t stick) and my A101 and the SDE
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Sounds cool!!support!!
Not only was the Viewsonic easily rooted, there was other tablets on the planet with VERY similar hardware. One of the first ROMs was ported from a Chinese tablet (in Chinese for a bit). For us, there's nothing like ours to port from, so it is a matter of getting permanent root & then the devs can safely tear into the Source-Code and make some magic.
Lack of available Archos tablets didn't help out. Also you can't get these at Best Buy either.
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Probably doesn't help much but in Germany there are some available at Saturn markets (Essen for example). If it's so hard to get hold of them in the States, maybe you'll better off by importing one from here.
I have a question that is eating at me to no end. Every android device (this is my 6th) I've rooted. I tried to use the devices without root and hesitated somewhat to do so, but rooting was inevitable with all of them.
I just received (from a lovely wife) a Nook Color for my birthday. I intend to use this solely as an e-reader. In that, I also like to diversify my e-book collection by using multiple providers (you can see where this is going, I'm sure). I would really like to be able to use B&N, Amazon, and Google Books to download content.
However... I've seen that there are a few things that don't work as they should after rooting. I'm not sure I'm willing to live with that.
After all of that said, how many of you have the same intentions I have? How many of you intend to use this as an e-reader and an e-reader only? I ask because I've seen several threads discussing different uses that clearly go beyond what the device was intended to do. Don't get me wrong. I'm not knocking what you are doing. I'm only trying to find out if these additional functions (I also believe in the beauty of open source;-)) serve as additional incentive for you guys to root. If this is the case, is using it as a multi-provider e-reader enough incentive to root? Is is enough incentive to "suffer" with what does not work after rooting?
Please chime in! Thank you for you input. I would really like to root this thing, but I just want to make sure it's worth the hassle.
93 views and no one has an opinion? Is everyone using this device as everything but an e-reader? At least tell me it is a dumb question if you think that.
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Pretty much everyone here uses the nook as a full android tablet that also reads books. I use CM7 myself and i would have never bought the nook if it didn't have any custom roms. I do not know any negatives to rooting the stock OS as I never used it. I would say go for it and if you don't like it you can go back to stock in <5 minutes.
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I'm probably the only one here that recently changed my configuration.
I've been a NC user with CM7 nightly builds installed to the emmc (that's right a bold user willing to risk a brik).
However, over time I'd had the opportunity to pickup another tab for the geek (HP Touchpad for that oh so low price).
Since the Nook Color is now really being used as a e-reader only again (with a few Apps from the BN app store), I've restored it to stock with the 1.3 update.
No root, nothing except a blank SD card for extra content.
The BN stock Nook reader software is night and day in terms of stability and performance in comparison to the "Nook for Android" application. It doensn't have that cool page turn animation, but why does the "Android" app pale in comparison when both technically are Android apps?
Granted, I don't have Amazon or Google book content access any longer, but I can use them on the other tab if I desire. But I've been finding that I prefer to purchase my books on BN and Amazon/Google vendors have only gotten my "Free" book purchases in the past.
I can also get my enhanced books again.
If BN decides it needs to add some services to help compete with the forth coming Amazon Tab, like video and audio rentals/purchases, you might see official support for NetFlix or Hulu as a counter. Reason is that BN would need to build that infrastructure, but providing NetFlix or Hulu Plus might be good enough to compete with Amazon Prime.
I really do like my NC again on stock. Without another tab to root/mod, I'd still be on CM7 (the beauty is I'm watching the CM7 development for the HP, so soon).
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I just received (from a lovely wife) a Nook Color for my birthday. I intend to use this solely as an e-reader. In that, I also like to diversify my e-book collection by using multiple providers (you can see where this is going, I'm sure). I would really like to be able to use B&N, Amazon, and Google Books to download content.
However... I've seen that there are a few things that don't work as they should after rooting. I'm not sure I'm willing to live with that.
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I've had my NC for about six months, and have used rooted stock (versions 1.01, 1.1, and 1.2) and am now almost exclusively using CM7 on the SD card. I use it for a lot more than an e-reader, but I do read a lot on it.
1) The stock reader software is much nicer than any Android reader apps out there. That was why I stuck with the stock software for so long.
2) I don't know of anything that's working on an unrooted Nook that is broken by rooting. Can you elaborate on what you meant by that?
3) If you really want to have an ebook collection that isn't dependent on a single vendor, you should look into Calibre and the tools that are available to strip DRM from books you buy. Then you can buy a book from, say, Amazon, strip the DRM, load it into Calibre, and convert it to any format you wish. This involves a bit of work on the PC side, so you're not able to just download directly to the reader, but it's one way to keep your stock unrooted Nook and still use Google or Amazon to buy books. And it means you'll always be able to read those books, not just when Amazon or Google or B&N decides you can.
I've been running rooted stock 99% of the time since I got the device. I did hammer it very early on (I think I tried installing one of the SD-card targeted froyo builds to emmc) and just so I could at least fiddle, ran the honeycomb off sdcard for a look. I've run cm7 and miui off sdcard, but I've never liked the alternate roms more than I like the stock, enough to flash them to emmc and certainly not enough to run them as daily drivers off of sdcards, since then my sdcard slot is obliged to be full.
I'm not clear on what, in the current rooted stock, isn't working that the OP refers to. For me, all the stock apps work fine, and I have access to Netflix and the free fridays books.
My preferred reader is fbreader - I like true night mode and landcape, and I have no problems with that reader crashing.
I would rather use the Nook for Android app, for the same reason that I like fbreader and for the additional benefit of very simple cross-device sync. I also have an ST, and am using fbsync and fbreader on both in conjunction with Tasker to sync reading positions.
I'm very unimpressed with the 1.3 firmware. In my hands, the device is more sluggish when running it than when running 1.2, but I know there are some folks that it helped to have (networking issues in 1.2.)
But overall, I can't think of anything that doesn't work on rooted stock that does work on vanilla stock, so more input on that would be helpful.
The only thing I'm aware of that doesn't work on rooted stock is the reading now button. I haven't tried the latest enhanced books for 1.3 yet, but everything else I've tested successfully.
My family has 3 nooks - my wife and me, plus my mom. My mom is a voracious reader and has literally read at least 100 books since Mother's Day. I offered to turn it back to stock for her, but she told me that there just a handful of android apps (not available through B&N) that she wants to keep. So she stays rooted.
For my wife, she's a big reader too (not as much as mom) but she has more than a handful of apps she wants, particularly a host of free games from either the market or android appstore, so she stays on rooted stock. Both have zero complaints. Both are also overclocked to 1200 using Dalingrin's OC kernel.
For me, I've been toying with CM7 on sd card for about 2 months now. I love how smooth it runs and I'm extremely satisfied with it. My only knock is the reader. As others have said, the stock nook reader is still the best, although both fbreader and moon reader are very good as well. I'm probably 50/50 on reading vs other stuff on my nook.
Thanks for all of your replies! I saw somewhere (I believe the ManualNooter thread) that there might be crashes with apps that required imei (forgive spelling). I have no idea what apps might require that. I went ahead and took the plunge. So far I like it! I have not figured out how to turn off gmail email sync yet, but I really like being able to access books from all three major providers!
Thank you all for your input!
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Perknite, also take a look at using Calibre for book management, and the tools for managing the security of your ebooks discussed at apprenticealf.wordpress.com.
You can read books from each of the vendors both on your computer and in any app you like on the NC, if you configure the tools and have the computer app from the vendor plus a program called Calibre on the PC.
I used to do a lot of this manually, and recently learned that Calibre will do huge amounts of it automatically if it has access to the install data from BN and Amazon.
Information security is a triangle: availability, confidentiality, integrity. DRM breaks your control over availability and integrity in order to deliver confidentiality - not to you, but to the vendor of your files. The tools discussed in the Apprentice Alf blog let you manage the availability and integrity of your data for yourself. You owe it to your ebook vendors to maintain confidentiality -- but you owed them that to start with, and it was in the agreement as you purchased the books.
I plan to flash 1.4.2 through CWM then root with MN. Is there any downside to flashing 1.4.2 vs. 1.4.1? With 1.4.2 will I lose market capabilities, non B&N app install capabilities?
Thanks.
Pretty sure V 1.4.2 is un-rootable at the moment. B&N is hard at work on putting boot lockers.
Although developers are capable of breaking that lock I think B&N's stuck up attitude is getting on people's nerves and I won't be surprised if developers just flat out say it was a great run and now bye bye. I mean why would you want to develop for a company that is so interested in making their own device limited.
The way I see it developers of Nook Color are pretty much helping B&N make their device great for free and of course doing a hak of a better job than their paid developers. No offence.
You can root 1.4.2 on a NC just fine with GMPOWER's latest ManualNooter. Be sure to follow the procedure for getting full app visibility in Market. Other than that, I haven't had any issues, at least not in the last 24 hours.
You do not need to flash 1.4.2 via CWM. I don't think you can successfully. Just copy the update file to the MyNookColor folder (the INTERNAL storage) mounted via USB and let it update itself via B&N's normal Get Version 1.4.2 Today procedure. Then you can apply MN. This works even if you've rooted 1.4.1 previously.
With the new tablets set to hit at the near-$250 mark, and the likes of the Samsung Galaxy Tab 7 Plus dropping to below $300 (depending on the day), I'm not overly worried about B&N trying to lock down their device. The NC is imminently rootable, and worst case, I can always overwrite the B&N firmware with CM. The new B&N Android app, currently in beta, may add the B&N functionality currently missing, in which case, I have no reason to stick with their firmware. The NC will serve until I get "the tablet I want".
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Pretty sure V 1.4.2 is un-rootable at the moment. B&N is hard at work on putting boot lockers.
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Since NT v1.4.2 was rooted 4 hours after release, I was "pretty sure" that the NC v1.4.2 would be rooted as or more easily. And as it turned out, and reported over in the developer forum before you posted, the existing manual nooter already works just fine, so we can say that NC v1.4.2 was rootable from the moment of release.
Although developers are capable of breaking that lock I think B&N's stuck up attitude is getting on people's nerves and I won't be surprised if developers just flat out say it was a great run and now bye bye. I mean why would you want to develop for a company that is so interested in making their own device limited.
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The two reasons that come to mind are (1) for the fun of solving the puzzle and (2) to expand on the capabilities of products sold at a loss by their retailer, since more open systems will normally not be available at a subsidized price.
The way I see it developers of Nook Color are pretty much helping B&N make their device great for free and of course doing a hak of a better job than their paid developers. No offence.
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The two groups are doing different jobs. The B&N developers are developing for a device to carry an ereader to buy ebooks with proprietary extensions to normal ePubs. Their success is measured in whether after-purchase media sales per Nook media tablet covers the loss taken on selling the devices and goes on to generate a profit on top.
Independent devs success is measured on how much joy they deliver to users, rather than how much joy they deliver to stockholders ~ its no surprise they deliver more joy to us, since that's a goal, rather than collateral damage.
In my opinion, B&N really is trying to put a hurdle on rooting the NT, to reduce the numbers sold at a loss to people like me who mostly use it to read Project Gutenburg ebooks, read indie non-DRM manga from Gen Manga, and watch anime at Crunchyroll and Crackle. Of course, as long as they sell the NT8G at a loss leader price, the effort is doomed to fail, but they seem to be at least putting on a show of trying.
But I don't think they've made any serious efforts to lock down the Nook Color ~ since the Kindle Fire at $200 spoiled their strategy of selling them at a small profit margin while providing an upsell opportunity for the NT, they look like they want to keep selling them at cost and hope for as large a share of unit keeping direct access to the B&N store as possible.
I bought the NC 16 gig straight from a Barnes & Noble and saw it was 1.4.2 (I think), I found a downgrade to 1.4 then rooted it. Shouldn't be that hard.
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I bought the NC 16 gig straight from a Barnes & Noble and saw it was 1.4.2 (I think), I found a downgrade to 1.4 then rooted it. Shouldn't be that hard.
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There is NO NC 16G on the market since it doesn't exist.
You might have thought of the NT
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There is NO NC 16G on the market since it doesn't exist.
You might have thought of the NT
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Wow, thanks for that clarification. Could have seriously screwed things up if I went too indepth with customization. I have just basic root.
1.4.2 Not bootable from sd card
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You can root 1.4.2 on a NC just fine with GMPOWER's latest ManualNooter. Be sure to follow the procedure for getting full app visibility in Market. Other than that, I haven't had any issues, at least not in the last 24 hours.
I doubt you can. Booting from SD card seems not to be possible on a NC stock 1.4.2.
I think you guys rooted 1.4.1 and then - afterwards - updated to 1.4.2, right?
I did'nt get a way to boot from SD card on my new NC 1.4.2 so far. And I tried hard.
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You can definitely root 1.42 using GMPOWER's method.
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bobstro said:
You can root 1.4.2 on a NC just fine with GMPOWER's latest ManualNooter. Be sure to follow the procedure for getting full app visibility in Market. Other than that, I haven't had any issues, at least not in the last 24 hours.
I doubt you can. Booting from SD card seems not to be possible on a NC stock 1.4.2.
I think you guys rooted 1.4.1 and then - afterwards - updated to 1.4.2, right?
I did'nt get a way to boot from SD card on my new NC 1.4.2 so far. And I tried hard.
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Are you sure it is a NOOKcolor and not NOOK Tablet? Check the model#
I've seen a lot of members mistake the new NT as the NC.
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I am sorry. You're right. It's a Tablet and not a Color (BNTV250A, Mic, 8GB):
My dealer has terribly confused me: He sold me a Color and delivered a Tablet.
I'm thinking about bring it back.
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I am sorry. You're right. It's a Tablet and not a Color (BNTV250A, Mic, 8GB):
My dealer has terribly confused me: He sold me a Color and delivered a Tablet.
I'm thinking about bring it back.
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How much did you pay for it?
If the same LOW price, I would keep the NT and call it a bargain.
Yes, we know, NT hackable thingy is not up for prime yet but it will be.
a. Rooting is completely doable and has been done. Not sure about the 1.4.2 though.
b. Installing custom ROMs? Last time (was at least 2 months ago), I've heard they are at the pre-alpha stage, don't know how far they go since. You might want to pop a few questions in the NT forum.
Is there any compelling change that should make me consider updating from 1.4.1 to 1.4.2 if I already have a comfortable 1.4.1 rooted environment with GO Launcher totally configured, the status bar hack installed, OTA updates disabled, Dalingrin's OC kernel installed, etc.?
These days I primarily use the Nook Color as an eReader (both B&N and Amazon) and for lightweight browser/email/Words With Friends usage, and I have a TouchPad with ICS for my tablet duties. As a result my tinkering on the NC has gone down CONSIDERABLY. If there's something really interesting in 1.4.2 I'll do it, but if it's just some small bug fixes, I'll stay put. I don't have many/any real issues with my current setup.
Thanks!
Just wanted to know if you guys are still rooting for Barnes & Noble and it's product development efforts.
Check Engadget's hands-on videos here:
Nook HD
http://www.engadget.com/2012/09/26/barnes-and-nobles-nook-hd-7-inch-android-tablet-hands-on-video
Nook HD+
http://www.engadget.com/2012/09/26/barnes-and-noble-announces-nook-hd-9-inch-tablet-we-go-hands-on/
I personally thinking about getting the Nook HD which looks really great... but then again, the Nexus 7 has a front-facing camera. I'm still thinking about it.
Looks awesome, if you're a tinkerer. Assuming it's rootable and there are good ROMs for it. I don't think it's going to do so well with the average consumer though. B&N just doesn't have the clout to provide the best user experience. The price alone is pretty compelling though. Yes, having no camera is sad, how often do you really use it though? Plus the Nook has an SD Card slot which is so cherished by many.
I'm considering purchasing my first tablet, and I'm on the fence between the Nook HD+ and the Kindle Fire HD 8.9. The biggest influencing factor for me is how much/often it gets quality ROM releases, which is impossible to predict. If I knew the Nook would get good ROMs, the price would be the deciding factor. I would jump on it instantly. Right now I'm leaning toward the Nook, and hoping the ROMs will come.
The HD+ looks great! Lets hope for an unlocked bootloader. the $269 for a 16GB model makes it a winner in the 9" category.
{I do hope that they 'll make available to European buyers this time}
Pluses for me:
1) Price - both the HD and HD+
2) Relatively light weight
3) Expandable micro-SD storage
Minuses:
1) (and a big one) proprietary connector!
2) +/- locked bootloader (probably like Nook Tablet). Not impossible to work around, just harder.
Lack of front-facing camera (on the HD+ especially) is a meh for me. Would make sense if the Nooks had a built-in Skype-style app.
Just my $0.02.
New BN Tablets
A Mighty "Hooray"!!!
I actually cannot believe that my long wait for an affordable HD tablet with an 8.9 (actually 9 inch) screen is now here courtesy of BN!
Having a screen that was the size equivalent of a "trade paper (back)" has always been my goal for both reading and video purposes.
Under $300., with excellent performance stats, and with at least ICS 4.0 makes my mouth water. No camera is simply not an issue for me and with my Galaxy Nexus, tethering is a breeze for those few times when I might need cellular access.
I cannot imagine what a rooted version with JB would be like. I would want at bare minimum to have this be dual bootable, especially in light of the "potential" of the new BN video service.
Of course one needs to see some thorough reviews first but this is the first unit to meet all of my internalized criteria to move me off of my original and rooted (dual boot) NC. Hardware "dreams" can all too frequently become major disappointments!
I am currently running both 1.4.2 and CM 7.2 with both dual booted from the internal eMMc. I do almost all of my book reading with it. It is a tolerable form to use (size wise) in terms of my personal reading experience (also video). Have never liked it for magazine viewing or browsing.
9.7-10.1 have always been larger than I wanted to tote around and this new HD+ now has nailed my personal "sweetspot"!
Looking forward to seeing how it performs in the real world and how quickly it can be rooted and modified.
I was just getting ready to step up tot he table when I saw the emails today.
Now I just don't know, I think I will wait and see if it can be rooted. I use my Kindle app way too often
to not have it anymore. My rooted Nook Color will have to suffice, I'm sure that the devs will get on this one soon!
I don't want to give up my Nook Color case though! LOL
It has the same weak point as the previous Nooks (which I have been happy with for 2 years)
How hard is it to add a Microphone (for Skype, Free Phone Calls, Voice Search etc)?
That would make it perfect, without a need for another device.
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Minuses:
1) (and a big one) proprietary connector!
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B&N claims the proprietary connector lets the tablet charge faster, if that eases your conscience. But we all know it's just a way to get people to spend on accessories.
my only qualms is the lack of a camera....
if they are truly trying to target Amazon and try to compete they need to include a Camera on the tablet at least....not necessarily the HD but c'mon...9" tab without a camera....a lot of people won't buy it simple because of that...i'm not one of those people but it still will deter customers...
other than that...price and looks and specs are all top notch imo and if i do upgrade to a bigger tablet i will probably go with the HD+
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B&N claims the proprietary connector lets the tablet charge faster, if that eases your conscience. But we all know it's just a way to get people to spend on accessories.
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The only positive of this one is that the previous super-duper multipin connector broke so easily that heck, I'm happy to try another type of connector if it actually might not break off after a few weeks of use.
Overall though...if the boot loader can be cracked (presuming there is one, which I suspect there will be since B&N just doesn't get they'd be a lot better off incentivizing people to buy product rather than attempting to force them to when they just don't have the inventory to compete) $299 for a 32 GB 256 DPI is somewhat ridiculous. Glad I haven't bitten on the Nexus 7, and we'll have to see how the big Kindle with the small data plan looks, but B&N may have just done it again on the performance/price point game even if this is never going to appeal to the plug it in and turn it on market.
What's a chance of this thing getting a CM10? I want a good high res 9inch android tablet with sd slot for a while now. Well I would prefer SDXC over microSD though. If this one have lock bootloader, then what can we expect? Decrapified ICS maybe?
Bluetooth?
Anyone know if any of the new Nooks have BT - seems that they will be missing a lot if they do not. Samsung, IPad, Google, etc. mostly all have Bluetooth.
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Anyone know if any of the new Nooks have BT - seems that they will be missing a lot if they do not. Samsung, IPad, Google, etc. mostly all have Bluetooth.
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Many sources I found are saying that they do indeed have bluetooth.
Unless you had developers mad scrambling to code up a new locked bootloader, I would assume the new nook tablet HD will come with the same bootloader as the one on the nook tablet that is already out now, which has the bootloader already cracked. If that is the case then it would be ready for customizing with a custom firmware as soon as it is released.
From the way some of the developers are working away with the cyanoboot app for the nook tablet I would assume the new nook tablet HD will come with the same bootloader, their has been lots of activity up in the nook tablet XDA forums recently with that app.
I am seriously thinking of getting the new nook tablet HD when it comes out here in a few months just for the hardware specs.
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If you guys want to try to get cyanogenmod endorsed for this upcoming device I made a few threads up in the cyanogenmod forums at these links here you should start bumping. http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/59466-nook-tablet-discussion-thread/
And this thread here too. http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/59468-request-cm-10-and-cm-11-for-the-nook-tablet/
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Bumping those threads over in cyanogenmod showing some interest in getting a forum up for the nook tablet and the new nook tablet HD would help get things rolling for this new device. I feel this new nook tablet HD has lots of potential with others helping out to become the next new device to develop on, like how the nook color took off last year.
Who doesn't love car analogies?
I'm guessing u-boot (the bootloader) on the Nook HD will be locked down, just as the NT was, and that they will have made bauwks' hack impossible. I think the security tends to improve (from their point of view) with each iteration, so I assume bauwks' bootloader bug-fix will have been undone.
I happen to believe the N7 is a far, FAR superior tablet option for just about everyone. IMO, the Nook and KFire are a bit like selling you a sports car with the tires removed and brake pedal welded down and marketing it as a four seat, five-speaker CD-player (that only plays BN and Amazon CDs). And Amazon's "radio" plays ads when you turn it on.
This is the reason I've never bought (indeed, never used) a NookTablet, and have no intention of buying or using a locked KFire either. I find the artificial restriction to use the product to its full capability to be extremely condescending and cynical to the customer. And I see the locked bootloader as a major design flaw. Yes, Amazon and BN need have to have a business model to make money, and I support their right to do so. But notice that Google actually trusts its customers -- even encourages them-- to experiment and push the boundries of what they think you can do with YOUR computer that you bought with YOUR money. It's almost like Google actually believe in themselves as a company... trusting that they have a good software experience and content offerings that beat the competition. And they may be right. Because, it's funny-- with all the hackers out there, I haven't yet heard of any N7 (or any device) owner who elected to "close down" their tablets with an effort to try to run BN's or Amazon's OS so they can experience the fully-limited, tightly-controlled e-book experience.
Anyway, the above is just my opinion at the moment. Who knows, maybe I'll be pleasantly surprised and the Nook HDs will be unlocked... but I doubt it.
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Unless you had developers mad scrambling to code up a new locked bootloader, I would assume the new nook tablet HD will come with the same bootloader as the one on the nook tablet that is already out now, which has the bootloader already cracked. If that is the case then it would be ready for customizing with a custom firmware as soon as it is released.
From the way some of the developers are working away with the cyanoboot app for the nook tablet I would assume the new nook tablet HD will come with the same bootloader, their has been lots of activity up in the nook tablet XDA forums recently with that app.
I am seriously thinking of getting the new nook tablet HD when it comes out here in a few months just for the hardware specs.
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If you guys want to try to get cyanogenmod endorsed for this upcoming device I made a few threads up in the cyanogenmod forums at these links here you should start bumping. http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/59466-nook-tablet-discussion-thread/
And this thread here too. http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/59468-request-cm-10-and-cm-11-for-the-nook-tablet/
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Bumping those threads over in cyanogenmod showing some interest in getting a forum up for the nook tablet and the new nook tablet HD would help get things rolling for this new device. I feel this new nook tablet HD has lots of potential with others helping out to become the next new device to develop on, like how the nook color took off last year.
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Fattire just erased all my doubts about getting the N7. My mind's made up! I'll go and get the N7!!!
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fattire said:
I'm guessing u-boot (the bootloader) on the Nook HD will be locked down, just as the NT was, and that they will have made bauwks' hack impossible. I think the security tends to improve (from their point of view) with each iteration, so I assume bauwks' bootloader bug-fix will have been undone.
I happen to believe the N7 is a far, FAR superior tablet option for just about everyone. IMO, the Nook and KFire are a bit like selling you a sports car with the tires removed and brake pedal welded down and marketing it as a four seat, five-speaker CD-player (that only plays BN and Amazon CDs). And Amazon's "radio" plays ads when you turn it on.
This is the reason I've never bought (indeed, never used) a NookTablet, and have no intention of buying or using a locked KFire either. I find the artificial restriction to use the product to its full capability to be extremely condescending and cynical to the customer. And I see the locked bootloader as a major design flaw. Yes, Amazon and BN need have to have a business model to make money, and I support their right to do so. But notice that Google actually trusts its customers -- even encourages them-- to experiment and push the boundries of what they think you can do with YOUR computer that you bought with YOUR money. It's almost like Google actually believe in themselves as a company... trusting that they have a good software experience and content offerings that beat the competition. And they may be right. Because, it's funny-- with all the hackers out there, I haven't yet heard of any N7 (or any device) owner who elected to "close down" their tablets with an effort to try to run BN's or Amazon's OS so they can experience the fully-limited, tightly-controlled e-book experience.
Anyway, the above is just my opinion at the moment. Who knows, maybe I'll be pleasantly surprised and the Nook HDs will be unlocked... but I doubt it.
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Well spoken. The only thing that holds me back from getting a Nexus though is the limited storage space. But others might not be so picky on storage. I just love the additional storage space on the nook series and that they give you that microSD slot. 64 GB storage on top of the 8 GB on the nook color I have right now.
I am the kind of kid that needs at least 100 full music albums and 20 or so more movies on the go, and riding on the school bus does not supply wifi for that cloud of theirs. Yet I know I am the minority. Give me moar storage, lol. I know lots of others living in rural areas and/or traveling in parts of the world not covered by wi-fi also find that extra storage given by the included microSD card slot is a must have. And that is TONS of people.
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So nexus 7 is also trying to shut out a part of their business to others by limiting storage on their top devices, and not including an internal storage slot. I am sure they know that or they would of released a device to include more additional storage for others.
Thanks for helping develop for us in any case <fattire> I hope to see you develop on the nook tablet too. { Non cynical comment of course }
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You are right on that locked boot-loader, did not think of that. I am sure they will submit a patch on that locked boot-loader to defeat that hack. Such a shame. There might be some tablet being developed right now by Google that will give others the option to add storage and the newest android builds, I just do not understand why its taking so long or if they are deliberately holding back on releasing such of a device to force others into "cloud" use. I am sure it does not cost that much to implement that hardware on a device, I would buy it even at a few dollars more.
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Anyone know if any of the new Nooks have BT - seems that they will be missing a lot if they do not. Samsung, IPad, Google, etc. mostly all have Bluetooth.
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Yes, it will have Bluetooth. Here is a specs list straight from B&N, LINK, section 1.2 - 1.5 is all most people will care about.
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There might be some tablet being developed right now by Google that will give others the option to add storage and the newest android builds, I just do not understand why its taking so long or if they are deliberately holding back on releasing such of a device to force others into "cloud" use. I am sure it does not cost that much to implement that hardware on a device, I would buy it even at a few dollars more.
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I believe it's the 2nd one. Google purposely trying to force customer to use cloud storage. The problem here is that we also have greedy telecom on the other side that will nickle and dime your for every GB if they could and they have no incentive to improve their network capacity & coverage. We also have a weak FCC that don't do much. FCC should have done away with itself license spectrum and force the telecom to be a dumb pipe and every one just be like MVNO. That way we end up w/ more competitive market rather than oligopoly market. Sure if we have affordable unlimited LTE everywhere right now, then cloud storage make a lot of sense. And that if we aren't gonna saturate the bandwidth. Imagine even if everyone pulling movies and music over the LTE network in metropolitan area, the network would suck so hard that everyone will be pulling less than 1mbps. I don't think Google will have a new tablet anytime soon or w/ removable storage for that matter. Not until google realize that they are fighting with the wireless telecom and they have to be a telecom themself.
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Unless you had developers mad scrambling to code up a new locked bootloader, I would assume the new nook tablet HD will come with the same bootloader as the one on the nook tablet that is already out now, which has the bootloader already cracked. If that is the case then it would be ready for customizing with a custom firmware as soon as it is released.
From the way some of the developers are working away with the cyanoboot app for the nook tablet I would assume the new nook tablet HD will come with the same bootloader, their has been lots of activity up in the nook tablet XDA forums recently with that app.
I am seriously thinking of getting the new nook tablet HD when it comes out here in a few months just for the hardware specs.
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If you guys want to try to get cyanogenmod endorsed for this upcoming device I made a few threads up in the cyanogenmod forums at these links here you should start bumping
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Bumping those threads over in cyanogenmod showing some interest in getting a forum up for the nook tablet and the new nook tablet HD would help get things rolling for this new device. I feel this new nook tablet HD has lots of potential with others helping out to become the next new device to develop on, like how the nook color took off last year.
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HIGHLY doubtful! they'll update the bootloader just like they did with the tablet, and, if you think otherwise, no offense, don't kid yourself
also... nook tablet has been out for almost a year and STILL only has nightlies (let alone a beta). again, no offense, but i'm seriously losing hope of EVER seeing a final version of cm10 (with a working 3.0 kernel (let alone bluetooth, mic, hw video accelleration) :\
TLDR: looking for an eink device that runs a more current version of Android and that can be rooted (preferably with an XDA forum)
Hi there, I've been fooling around with my rooted Nook Touch since I was using it to read pdfs for grad school about three years ago. It's gradually stopped working the way I wanted it to - the latest being when NoRefresh stopped working and I couldn't get library books downloaded from Overdrive to work on either Aldiko or the original overdrive app. At the same time, my girlfriend, who works in publishing, has been talking about looking for a replacement for her ailing Sony E-reader from waaaay back when.
I'd like to find one or both of us an e-ink e-reader that we can root and have some hackerish fun with. I can keep tinkering with the NST, but the Android version is becoming a real bottleneck for the things I want to do, so I was wondering if anyone knows of devices (preferably with boards on XDA) that have e-ink screens but run a newer version of Android. Any suggestions?
The Nook Glowlight Plus runs Android 4.4.2 and can be rooted and there is a thread on XDA about it here.