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So I was looking around briefly and noticed Bionic has Maverick as most of you are aware and found the osh.img dump on their thread and thought (well Joe's webtop_mod uses a osh.img file to install...) so decided to try swapping the osh.img files and >,> what do you know it actually doesn't cause the Atrix to flip into a boot loop XD And shows their version of Webtop in the settings menu under Webtop version XO
Basicly looking to port the Bionic's Maverick Webtop to our phones, I understand Sogarth is working on porting the webtop2sd to the Bionic. I wanna start the effort to port the Maverick Webtop to our Atrix's, I mean as is the mount points/addresses shouldn't be too different. I doubt Moto went ahead and reinvented the wheel when it came to a Android/Webtop (Ubuntu) setup so it should come down to finding addresses and changing them accordingly.
Haven't tried anything else other than the install, in class then at work at a new location, so I doubt they'll let me turn off the U-verse demo to try out the Webtop >,>
Command line seems functional full webtop no so much
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What a tease!!
barry99705 said:
What a tease!!
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Lmao I know! I know! but just had a major breakthrough was able to use the command line and more Now wanna turn this into a actual Webtop Rom after testing!! I Will have it up by tonight but I just got otta class and am on my way at a new location for work, I doubt they'll let me turn off the U-verse Demo to mess with this but I'll be able to compile the mods/patches and other fun stuff from work I promise!
What exactly is this? Isnt the webtop from the Bionic and the Atrix the same? Can this help bring landscape hdmi mirroring to Atrix since the bionic has it?
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What exactly is this? Isnt the webtop from the Bionic and the Atrix the same? Can this help bring landscape hdmi mirroring to Atrix since the bionic has it?
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Think about it more... And no, and don't care for HDMI mirroring. So that said find another thread for it.
Update have the command line down and functional, working on modding the .apk files to launch the right mount points but the first part of seeing if its even usable is confirmed, gonna work on the .apk files while at work to see what I can get done with it might need some help being I hate java and apk modding personally its complicated to me but I'll try my hand at it, basically use the bionic .apk files and set them up to run on the Atrix so that way you wouldn't have to find all the addresses the apk/script calls on within Webtop.
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Think about it more... And no, and don't care for HDMI mirroring. So that said find another thread for it.
Update have the command line down and functional, working on modding the .apk files to launch the right mount points but the first part of seeing if its even usable is confirmed, gonna work on the .apk files while at work to see what I can get done with it might need some help being I hate java and apk modding personally its complicated to me but I'll try my hand at it, basically use the bionic .apk files and set them up to run on the Atrix so that way you wouldn't have to find all the addresses the apk/script calls on within Webtop.
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I am thinking, instead of giving me a over smart answer, you could be polite and just tell me. I thought the webtop from the bionic and atrix, even photon is the same?
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I am thinking, instead of giving me a over smart answer, you could be polite and just tell me. I thought the webtop from the bionic and atrix, even photon is the same?
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Okay here's a "overly smart answer" Webtop has nothing to do with HDMI mirroring they are two completely different functions that happen to use the HDMI cable. Your post is equal to assuming the entertainment center is the same as Webtop >,>
Sorry but I too think that answer was rude...
Still you haven't accomplished anything substantial or at least offered any proof of your accomplishment and you are already all over your head... *sigh*
Chill dude...
Updated OP with pics of my current setup and I ask if your not constructive, just know I rather tell you to go fly a kite than to sit here waiting only 12 hrs to see results.
This is in the general section because there is very little done on this at the moment from my end I'm not sure what others are working on but I have yet to see a Maverick port from the Bionic underway, its no where near perfect and its to prove that flashing the Webtop from another working Moto/Webtop isn't a bad way to start than to sit around and asking for a upgraded native Ubuntu or using one of the image mods on a current native one.
The Docks do not work Lapdock/ or HD dock for this method though command line bashing into Webtop dose work and seems rather stable, no weirdness on my test Atrix though I have yet to move this to my main Atrix until I get a gui set up for it that will off set the lack of Webtop. Current stand point checking the class.dex files of the dock/portal .apk files for some sort of header id keys to change it from Bionic > Atrix. Not uploading the zip file I used to flash mine being that I believe a flash able zip should contain the correct dock/portal apk files for any release for now if you wanna try this create a backup of your current osh.img via
dd if=/dev/block/mmcblk0p13 of=/sdcard/Originalosh.img
Djazin said:
Updated OP with pics of my current setup and I ask if your not constructive, just know I rather tell you to go fly a kite than to sit here waiting only 12 hrs to see results.
This is in the general section because there is very little done on this at the moment from my end I'm not sure what others are working on but I have yet to see a Maverick port from the Bionic underway, its no where near perfect and its to prove that flashing the Webtop from another working Moto/Webtop isn't a bad way to start than to sit around and asking for a upgraded native Ubuntu or using one of the image mods on a current native one.
The Docks do not work Lapdock/ or HD dock for this method though command line bashing into Webtop dose work and seems rather stable, no weirdness on my test Atrix though I have yet to move this to my main Atrix until I get a gui set up for it that will off set the lack of Webtop. Current stand point checking the class.dex files of the dock/portal .apk files for some sort of header id keys to change it from Bionic > Atrix. Not uploading the zip file I used to flash mine being that I believe a flash able zip should contain the correct dock/portal apk files for any release for now if you wanna try this create a backup of your current osh.img via
dd if=/dev/block/mmcblk0p13 of=/sdcard/Originalosh.img
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I applaud your effort and I know that there's really not much done lately on this regard, so I wish you luck on porting the Webtop to the Atrix.
However my comment was more in regards of your rudeness. But let's focus on your progress then. (Looking good btw)
Cheers!
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What exactly is this? Isnt the webtop from the Bionic and the Atrix the same? Can this help bring landscape hdmi mirroring to Atrix since the bionic has it?
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Would it hurt to answer the guy's question? Not everyone knows what the hell a maverick webtop is (including myself). If there was any other websites out there that had as good info as xda I would definitely go there instead because lets be honest, the overwhelming majority of members here are certified douche bags.
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Would it hurt to answer the guy's question? Not everyone knows what the hell a maverick webtop is (including myself). If there was any other websites out there that had as good info as xda I would definitely go there instead because lets be honest, the overwhelming majority of members here are certified douche bags.
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This is Maverick.
The Atrix webtop is based on a much older Ubuntu release.
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This is Maverick.
The Atrix webtop is based on a much older Ubuntu release.
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You mean to tell me the answer was readily available with a Google search?
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Would it hurt to answer the guy's question? Not everyone knows what the hell a maverick webtop is (including myself). If there was any other websites out there that had as good info as xda I would definitely go there instead because lets be honest, the overwhelming majority of members here are certified douche bags.
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I stumbled accross this thread by accident. But i have to add my 2 cent to that comment. Right understand this. XDA is a development community, the devs are not here to educate noobs, maybe some come accross abit rude sometimes. But maybe it's because they have the same idiots asking the same stupid questions every single day. People that cannot even be arsed searching google before they ask these stupid questions. And you wonder why developers get annoyed when all there trying to do is develop something for the whole community, but there threads get bogged down with idiots?? How are they ment to share ideas with other devs when before they know it there thread had 100 pages of noob questions?
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wish you luck OP
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I stumbled accross this thread by accident. But i have to add my 2 cent to that comment. Right understand this. XDA is a development community, the devs are not here to educate noobs, maybe some come accross abit rude sometimes. But maybe it's because they have the same idiots asking the same stupid questions every single day. People that cannot even be arsed searching google before they ask these stupid questions. And you wonder why developers get annoyed when all there trying to do is develop something for the whole community, but there threads get bogged down with idiots?? How are they ment to share ideas with other devs when before they know it there thread had 100 pages of noob questions?
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True, but...
I doubt that will apply in this case.
Why?
1. The OP is not a known developer
2. This post is not on the Development section
3. He went through leaps and bounds to explain the differences between webtop and hdmi mirroring instead of just answering the n00b question
In the end, being just a bit polite doesn't hurt anyone.
I suggest the OP to post his progress in the Dev section, where its "ok" to be rude.
My 2 cents
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Rayan said:
True, but...
I doubt that will apply in this case.
Why?
1. The OP is not a known developer
2. This post is not on the Development section
3. He went through leaps and bounds to explain the differences between webtop and hdmi mirroring instead of just answering the n00b question
In the end, being just a bit polite doesn't hurt anyone.
I suggest the OP to post his progress in the Dev section, where its "ok" to be rude.
My 2 cents
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It doesn't matter if he is a "known developer" or not, can you do the types of stuff he's talking about?
If you don't have any clue what the op is posting about you shouldn't be posting in the thread to begin with. If you don't know that there is a search button or how to use it you shouldn't be posting on xda at all. This does not apply to just this thread but all of xda.
Forgive my rudeness but some people just don't belong on xda and need to go to the motorolla forums where they belong. As Andro said before xda (not just the development section) is for development and those with that mind set.
You want people to be nice, don't post here with questions that could be answered via an xda or google search simple as that.
Just my 2 cents...
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It doesn't matter if he is a "known developer" or not, can you do the types of stuff he's talking about?
If you don't have any clue what the op is posting about you shouldn't be posting in the thread to begin with. If you don't know that there is a search button or how to use it you shouldn't be posting on xda at all. This does not apply to just this thread but all of xda.
Forgive my rudeness but some people just don't belong on xda and need to go to the motorolla forums where they belong. As Andro said before xda (not just the development section) is for development and those with that mind set.
You want people to be nice, don't post here with questions that could be answered via an xda or google search simple as that.
Just my 2 cents...
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I'm sorry but I'm no n00b (i've been cooking my own roms since the Pocket Pc days and now Android) so you'd better stop your sermon. Specially when it comes from some person with just 28 posts that don't offer much to the community.
I was not the one who asked the OP by the way. But I'm sure you know that too since you are so wise.
I was just saying that politeness doesn't hurt anyone.
Cheers!
Rayan
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I'm sorry but I'm no n00b (i've been cooking my own roms since the Pocket Pc days and now Android) so you'd better stop your sermon. Specially when it comes from some person with just 28 posts that don't offer much to the community.
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Now who's the rude one, sheesh? I never called you a noob, I asked you a question and you responded which to that I say thanks. My post was in general to xda, not directed toward you and I'm sorry if it seemed that way. I'm sure everyone on the xda forums appreciates all the roms that you've released and the help that you have provided keeping threads on topic from your 900+ posts.
I'm tired of going to a thread seeing that there is are new posts only to discover that its just another person requesting information that they could have easily found if they had used the search (or hell even searched google) and then the several posts afterwords bashing that person to oblivion or telling them the answer which throws the thread off topic and continues for several more pages worth of posts.
I'm pretty interested in this topic and I don't want this thread cluttered with questions that could be answered through simple searching as most of the other threads I monitor have been. Now could we please keep this on topic?
@crossix
Okay, apologies accepted... and I'm sorry for being rude too.. Let's keep this thread on topic then...
Cheers!
Rayan
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Check This Article:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technolo...d-2.0-turns-mobile-phones-in-to-sat-navs.html
wow...
Would you please explain how this is related to development? This should be in another section like General.
It's people like you that post stuff like this that make devs leave...
enderx1 said:
Would you please explain how this is related to development? This should be in another section like General.
It's people like you that post stuff like this that make devs leave...
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Grow up. Thanks.
^^ Yeah what enderx1 said (just the first half)
But damn this just put a smile on my face thanks
enderx1 said:
Would you please explain how this is related to development? This should be in another section like General.
It's people like you that post stuff like this that make devs leave...
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Amen brother. Unless you have an apk of this,and it might help development with android 2(Link to developing Google apps because of sync api commands in maps app? I don't know.) What I'm trying to say is...don't make a new thread if it has NOTHING TO TO WITH DEVELOPMENT. Thanks.
Seriously. DEV or GTFO.
I kind of disagree; I think this is important for the development section:
It could inspire developers to work a way into porting android 2.0 to G1. It may inspire some genius into converting the g1 into a multi OS system that can switch between a GPS NAV and a Phone, in a simple way “switch Rom”. I left it open without a comment because I rather for everyone to use his imagination and transform this into development!!!
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I kind of disagree; I think this is important for the development section:
It could inspire developers to work a way into porting android 2.0 to G1. It may inspire some genius into converting the g1 into a multi OS system that can switch between a GPS NAV and a Phone, in a simple way “switch Rom”. I left it open without a comment because I rather for everyone to use his imagination and transform this into development!!!
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We already got a "demo rom" of sorts....it is based off of Android 2,but no Google apps,wifi, or Bluetooth,for obvious reasons.
otto888 said:
We already got a "demo rom" of sorts....it is based off of Android 2,but no Google apps,wifi, or Bluetooth,for obvious reasons.
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I’m aware of that and the problems associated with porting 2.0, but I also believe in the XDA development Team. I would like to remind everyone where we have been and where are we now in terms of android, just imagine flashing back to stock RC 28 .
Just a note to OP, any dev that would even conjure doing this would more than likely look @ android.com or other android related sites with news and other articles just like you linked for us, granted you were trying to share what you have learned, it is completely irrelevant to this forum. Gladly take this thread to a "general"disscussion. Besides its still early look @ 2.0 and will be a bit before we see progress, and was hoping this thread meant somone was porting already, yet, to my dismay another off topic discussion that let my hopes fall to the bottomless pit of irony.
Ty!
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Just a note to OP, any dev that would even conjure doing this would more than likely look @ android.com or other android related sites with news and other articles just like you linked for us, granted you were trying to share what you have learned, it is completely irrelevant to this forum. Gladly take this thread to a "general"disscussion. Besides its still early look @ 2.0 and will be a bit before we see progress, and was hoping this thread meant somone was porting already, yet, to my dismay another off topic discussion that let my hopes fall to the bottomless pit of irony.
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I see your point, thanks.
or alternatively you could of searched...........
I posted a new thread on this yesterday in the Dream Applications section.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4841777#post4841777
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Would you please explain how this is related to development? This should be in another section like General.
It's people like you that post stuff like this that make devs leave...
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Actually its people like you that post immature retorts that makes members not want to be here anymore. Android 2.0 is DEV!
Making Beats on the Cappy!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hm3a4A2tKBI
then a tutorial on it for a better understanding of it...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTz5r5Sf-pA&feature=related
This is what i want santa to develop me for Christmas... OH please please please.
seriously can someone do this??? Is this possible???
If not can we put this in a wish list of some sorts sorta like a brainstorm dev section?
That looks awesome
@TheTodFather, If other people can see the Q&A captivate forum section why cant you?
Next time, post in the right forum section.
Rafyvitto
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=xda+forum+rules
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@TheTodFather, If other people can see the Q&A captivate forum section why cant you?
Next time, post in the right forum section.
Rafyvitto
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There is a report button, other people... well you see where that is going
<-- thats you, cool down there buddy.
TheTodFather said:
Making Beats on the Cappy!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hm3a4A2tKBI
then a tutorial on it for a better understanding of it...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTz5r5Sf-pA&feature=related
This is what i want santa to develop me for Christmas... OH please please please.
seriously can someone do this??? Is this possible???
If not can we put this in a wish list of some sorts sorta like a brainstorm dev section?
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@TheTodFather, If other people can see the Q&A captivate forum section why cant you?
Next time, post in the right forum section.
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Sounds like a development question.... can this be developed.....
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Sounds like a development question.... can this be developed.....
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Could be, its an indirect dev question...
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Sounds like a development question.... can this be developed.....
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Could be, its an indirect dev question...
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I'm just trying to say don't flame the guy.... it's not like he asked which is your favorite case in this forum =)
If/when I have a question about development I always ask here...... it seems like Q&A is more like reading the manual, not really mod or fw or rom questions. Please feel free to correct this if I am mistaken, but look at the threads in the q&a.....
Sometimes peeps are quick to throw stones.
By the way, I too hope this gets developed. But maybe a better question would be: "what can I (the collective us) do or how can I contribute in order to develop this?". Not just leave it to others. There are many ways to contribute:
READ, Learn to code, Contribute to your favorite developers monetarily, etc etc.
I think it is innovative. A phone app that can function like reason, fruityloops, protools... Mixing, autotune, live record. 5 years ago that would of been impossible. In 5 more it would of already of been done. The technology we hold in our hands is pretty amazing. IS it a phone? a camera? a router? supercomputer(they done this to a phone at MIT)
Yeah i may of wanted to have that on my phone but realistically , of course not.
To be honest it was a little slow today here(Zzzz) blah blah blah same questions 10000s of times over and over. I was just trying to get the creative juices flowing!! So we fix the lag and we have hsupa and froyo is here whats next. In the end Apps are what this is all about all the boring redundant lag fixes oc is just the hard work we go through to get to taste the icing! So thank you guys for doing all the hard work cause the icing is just going to be that much better...
Thanks
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@TheTodFather, If other people can see the Q&A captivate forum section why cant you?
Next time, post in the right forum section.
Rafyvitto
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Seriously, man.. Relax. We all appreciate forum moderation but there no need to be harsh.
Speak to people in a manner that you'd ask to be spoken to.
There is enough talk around here about fixing the minor issues with the phone. I'd like to read talk about apps, ports, and dare I say it peripheral support. There is a discussion over at the vibrant forum about adding the camera for video calls and another about adding the camera externally via the usb port. I find that more interesting than fixing the gps that actually doesn't work bad while I'm driving.
It would be nice to see powerful music apps on android. The iphone has a pretty powerful amp modeler available for guitar, just an adapter and a pair of headphones and you have a practice amp in your pocket that actually sound really good.
If the question is why, the answer is because you can. These phones are crazy. 5 years ago I had friends with computers that weren't this fast. Hell my computer was only 1.7 ghz and. In 2 years I'd like to be able to replace my pc completely.
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Have you seen this? Don't know if it is what you're after...
hxxp://www dot mikrosonic.com/rd3
NICE! I'm going to snag that demo! Good find!
this would be an AWESOME app
I'm going to jack my own thread. If you would like to post up anything relating to cool apps or concepts feel free.
How possible would it be to have windows running on Android and not the other way around. I know the hd2 can run these two fine operating systems in a dual boot. (picture included) Is it because the drivers have not been developed for WINDOWS??? It would seem easy obviously not. I would love to have windows 7 on this phone because after seeing this!!!! (picture included of the iphone) then i got to thinking that gaming on this would be awesome. The phone can be used as a screen cause it gay as hell to have to literally touch the screen to hit a virtual joystick or button. I know windows mobile 7 is going to have xbox 360 app of some sort, i dont know the extent of it. I know eventually they incorporate real 360 titles to be play on windows mobile phones. However I dont see why we couldn't in the future play mobile games with this very same concept done on the iphone a windows dual boot for the android OS. Seriously though if Microsoft plays this right they could dominant the phone market again and Personally i'm not a fan boy but i loved to play come mobile Call of duty on my dual boot android!!!!
Back to the original topic, aren't there alredy sequencers out for the android market?
That awesome looking groovebox one looks promising, But googling "android sequencers" brought up ULoop and ReLoop, which seem to be capable of making beats on the fly.
Unless I'm missing something here.
i wish beatmaker by intua could be ported to android
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@TheTodFather, If other people can see the Q&A captivate forum section why cant you?
Next time, post in the right forum section.
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Are you a moderator? Hmmm...you are not. Report people and let the mods do the moderating. It seems like an interesting idea and it is a development question.
Im glad someone made this thread! I downloaded the Groovebox program (paid version, only $4.44 US) and its pretty cool but has a long way to go. Settings you declare in the mixer wont save when you save your song so you have to reset them next time you load it which is really annoying. Also, the drum kits all sound 90% the same, some have conga drums and such but overall they are all the same sound with minor effects added to them but with the paid version they say you get future updates so hopefully they will release some revamped kits and fix the save issues. Also, some new bass effects would be fun too.
Overall, its fun to mess around with but probably not worth buying till they come out with some more features for it. VERY basic right now.
here you can read more about our beloved new version of Android, version 2.3!
sooo, im' asking you, how long do you think it will take to our developers to have it running smoothly on leo?
How the hell should we know ???
There are so many devs on xda for HD2 it's just a race now lol.
Is the SDK downloadable already?
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There are so many devs on xda for HD2 it's just a race now lol.
Is the SDK downloadable already?
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Yup!
10char
I already gave infinitybiff the system.img from the 2.3 sdk. So, soon people!
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OMG Ur Really Asking a Dumb question
It Will Take As Long As Xda Developers will take dont worry about it and let them do their hobbie(they arent getting paid for it) and eventually we will get it this thread will most likey jst pressure them more
Why Flame Just because someone asks a question?
I read these boards daily and I just have to comment on this one. Why do people who are using this forum so opinionated? Meaning, why don't you provide some positive comments rather than some smart ass remarks like the two people who just posted. If you don't like what someone has posted, ignore it. Especially when you are on your second posting and already you are a smart ass. This is a forum that people use to gather info, post info and try to help each other. Now, if your posting helps, then great. Otherwise, please try to be civil.
JMHO!
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I read these boards daily and I just have to comment on this one. Why do people who are using this forum so opinionated? Meaning, why don't you provide some positive comments rather than some smart ass remarks like the two people who just posted. If you don't like what someone has posted, ignore it. Especially when you are on your second posting and already you are a smart ass. This is a forum that people use to gather info, post info and try to help each other. Now, if your posting helps, then great. Otherwise, please try to be civil.
JMHO!
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Agreed. =)
Love the post - but even better love the post before this one as shown on the screenshot... while asking this question and wondering, 20-25 minutes before the question was asked there is posted extracted img file of GingerDude ... I know it's not complete build but you can imagine since this fast extraction worked - Leo is gonna have gingerdude very very soon :L)
doubts this heavily
can't we wait till it is actually on a device like the n1 first and not just dumped from an emulator instead? also do we need 10 million threads of the same thing?
Gingerbread has not been released for any current device. why don't we just wait till there is a n1 release and then we can have at it?
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Agreed. =)
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Agreed It wasn't pleasant when I start asking questions and I got sent to the "Box-of-silence" for "spilling-the-milk"...
asctony said:
I read these boards daily and I just have to comment on this one. Why do people who are using this forum so opinionated? Meaning, why don't you provide some positive comments rather than some smart ass remarks like the two people who just posted. If you don't like what someone has posted, ignore it. Especially when you are on your second posting and already you are a smart ass. This is a forum that people use to gather info, post info and try to help each other. Now, if your posting helps, then great. Otherwise, please try to be civil.
JMHO!
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Finally someone said it. Completely agree
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domineus said:
doubts this heavily
can't we wait till it is actually on a device like the n1 first and not just dumped from an emulator instead? also do we need 10 million threads of the same thing?
Gingerbread has not been released for any current device. why don't we just wait till there is a n1 release and then we can have at it?
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If people do not like multiple threads, complainers, then why contribute to them by taking up space and jabbering comments? Kinda contradicktory; if the DEVS don't like it then they'll delete it, simple.
asctony said:
I read these boards daily and I just have to comment on this one. Why do people who are using this forum so opinionated? Meaning, why don't you provide some positive comments rather than some smart ass remarks like the two people who just posted. If you don't like what someone has posted, ignore it. Especially when you are on your second posting and already you are a smart ass. This is a forum that people use to gather info, post info and try to help each other. Now, if your posting helps, then great. Otherwise, please try to be civil.
JMHO!
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+1 ...i totally agree. some get ignorant for no reason. it's like they try to belittle others.try to sound one step smarter than the next person..and for what? what do you gain? i also hate when someone takes advantage of the post system and talks down to someone with less posts.
just because one has less posts then another doesn't mean they know any less. it just means they recently joined this forum. doesn't mean they are noobs.
2.3
Correct me if I am wrong here but since 2.3 is a revision of 2.2 wouldn't it be a case of just updating the kernel and booting away??
Eg relatively minor work compared to the whole getting android on to HD2 in the first place.
eenbox said:
Love the post - but even better love the post before this one as shown on the screenshot... while asking this question and wondering, 20-25 minutes before the question was asked there is posted extracted img file of GingerDude ... I know it's not complete build but you can imagine since this fast extraction worked - Leo is gonna have gingerdude very very soon :L)
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Oh hell yeah. Saw this earlier, but didnt even realise that it was my post that you were talking about. Biff has already tried to start booting, but no luck yet. Motoman and M-deejay are on it as well.
geez you guys i post a topic and ofcourse some "smart" people who don't get the question ansewr as harsh as they can just to prove their "i'm a big important guy".
the question i posted was majorly mistaken as i tried to be retoric. to those who still don't get it better question could be "how long do you think our developers will need to get gingerbread working, share your thoughts!"
as i'm long time member of this site i can now perfectly see why some newbie users are afraid of asking and rather pay for complete tut how to get android workin on ebay and similar.
such big site should be open to new users because they can become potential developers (they get into it and get addicted...).
i know that flaming will still exist nomather what i write here, but, atleast if you can, answer to the new users, make good tutorials, suggest stickies to mods! this will keep our train rollin.
noone is born smart, you learn(ed) every and each thing you "smartasses" know and probably didn't just fall off the sky. you asked. so respect that!
EDIT: mods can now close this thread as gingerbread is working according to our hero darkstone!!
stirkac said:
geez you guys i post a topic and ofcourse some "smart" people who don't get the question ansewr as harsh as they can just to prove their "i'm a big important guy".
the question i posted was majorly mistaken as i tried to be retoric. to those who still don't get it better question could be "how long do you think our developers will need to get gingerbread working, share your thoughts!"
as i'm long time member of this site i can now perfectly see why some newbie users are afraid of asking and rather pay for complete tut how to get android workin on ebay and similar.
such big site should be open to new users because they can become potential developers (they get into it and get addicted...).
i know that flaming will still exist nomather what i write here, but, atleast if you can, answer to the new users, make good tutorials, suggest stickies to mods! this will keep our train rollin.
noone is born smart, you learn(ed) every and each thing you "smartasses" know and probably didn't just fall off the sky. you asked. so respect that!
EDIT: mods can now close this thread as gingerbread is working according to our hero darkstone!!
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Awesome reply...
to stirkac>
absolutely agree..
long time ago i discover this forum with my first HTC Universal in my hand..and i love it here..
now with hd2 i learned so much about wm year by year.. so at this time i am ADDICTED full respect to devs and newebies booth is needed to keep this in friendly and going forward continuum.. i reply rarely but this is "must" quick reply salute to all members.. be friendly and helping each other.
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to stirkac>
absolutely agree..
long time ago i discover this forum with my first HTC Universal in my hand..and i love it here..
now with hd2 i learned so much about wm year by year.. so at this time i am ADDICTED full respect to devs and newebies booth is needed to keep this in friendly and going forward continuum.. i reply rarely but this is "must" quick reply salute to all members.. be friendly and helping each other.
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thanks and respect to you! also includes deadmansink's post
hey guy just thought u might like to get ur hands on this i say this in the hd2 android development xda section of this site maybe u guy well have some luck with thishttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=965251its the honeycomb system image dump
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bleh not in dev forum
There should be an unthank button...
Alpha06 said:
There should be an unthank button...
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was the OP not good info? i didnt see the thread anywhere in the dev section and a XOOM sytstem dump seems like dev worthy material... i know i would have never seen it if it was not posted... i dont spend to much time in the HD2 section, only this one. i get that it was posted already in another section but isnt that why there are specific sections on this forum? otherwise the first post of the system dump would be packed full all the people with all the diffrent phones and tablets. and i know i dont go searching all the other subforum stuff for GTAB related info...
so off my soap box now... lol thanks for the find and for the post!! cant wait to see what this brings us!!
I've been mucking about with the system image, trying to get it to run, from a VEGAn base, not been successful so far. But my experience with ROM devving has been scant, to say the least
Basically I tried pushing the xoom system files straight on top of a VEGAn install, which ran out of space! Then tried just the xoom system, which fit, but rebooted to recovery and "erasing MSC" came up.
Then tried a mix of both, which had permissions errors (no +x on /system/bin), which when fixed, led to a reboot to recovery.
And then my lunch break was over, so I had to get back to real work Will do some reading tonight (Now + 4 hours or so), and a more thorough look at how VEGAn hangs together, and how stuffing a honeycomb /system into it will help us out.
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was the OP not good info? i didnt see the thread anywhere in the dev section and a XOOM sytstem dump seems like dev worthy material... i know i would have never seen it if it was not posted... i dont spend to much time in the HD2 section, only this one. i get that it was posted already in another section but isnt that why there are specific sections on this forum? otherwise the first post of the system dump would be packed full all the people with all the diffrent phones and tablets. and i know i dont go searching all the other subforum stuff for GTAB related info...
so off my soap box now... lol thanks for the find and for the post!! cant wait to see what this brings us!!
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Thats why I said the third thread posted today about the same thing. It has been moved from the development thread multiple times because its not development. Without a boot.img this system dump is completely worthless. There still files that are needed from nvidia that are not in this dump.
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Thats why I said the third thread posted today about the same thing. It has been moved from the development thread multiple times because its not development. Without a boot.img this system dump is completely worthless. There still files that are needed from nvidia that are not in this dump.
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ah i see, i didnt understand your reply. So the system dump cannot offer anything from a dev standpoint over the SDK that we already have?
thebadfrog said:
Thats why I said the third thread posted today about the same thing. It has been moved from the development thread multiple times because its not development. Without a boot.img this system dump is completely worthless. There still files that are needed from nvidia that are not in this dump.
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I didn't know the other two threads were moved? I was wondering why they were in the general section because like the OP I was unaware what was needed to cook or port a ROM.
This would have been nice to know right away.
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ah i see, i didnt understand your reply. So the system dump cannot offer anything from a dev standpoint over the SDK that we already have?
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If we had a boot img yes but by itself it doesnt do much. Sorry but as a regular user here at xda I get tired of seeing the same thread started over and over and its usually by n00bs who think they've discovered the wheel. I'm not putting you in that group as I can tell by your questions you are genuinely interested and are thinking before you post. I promise you that several of us have links to places where info shows up first and that as soon as there is a rom worth using it will be posted her as sticky for everyone to try. Have some patience and let the devs do their work.........or should I "gtfo"
EDIT:I am not a dev
How they build a rom to NOOK without Boot Image
I know XOOM running Tagra 2. The first vision of SDK compatible for that Nooks processor. But however they run 3.0 on Nook. But now we have full system dump running on Xoom. Why we can't do like Nook guy's?
Because the Nook Honeycomb is made from a preview SDK without any optimizations made for Tegra 2. The Nook barely runs it.
We need a dump from a Tegra 2 device or access to the AOSP HC source library-neither of which are currently available.
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If we had a boot img yes but by itself it doesnt do much. Sorry but as a regular user here at xda I get tired of seeing the same thread started over and over and its usually by n00bs who think they've discovered the wheel. I'm not putting you in that group as I can tell by your questions you are genuinely interested and are thinking before you post. I promise you that several of us have links to places where info shows up first and that as soon as there is a rom worth using it will be posted her as sticky for everyone to try. Have some patience and let the devs do their work.........or should I "gtfo"
EDIT:I am not a dev
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n00bs need info too. At least the OP didn't post a super annoying post with CAPS and exclamation marks...screaming that he has the system dump like Paul Revere. I thought he was just totally misinformed...like me.
You shouldn't gtfo, I bet the OP learned something from these threads just like me.
Yes
xmr405o said:
n00bs need info too. At least the OP didn't post a super annoying post with CAPS and exclamation marks...screaming that he has the system dump like Paul Revere. I thought he was just totally misinformed...like me.
You shouldn't gtfo, I bet the OP learned something from these threads just like me.
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+1 for me too, I like the info I am reading lately....
WantADroid said:
+1 for me too, I like the info I am reading lately....
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Notice he said reading.....All I did was read for 2 weeks before I started posting and I havent started 1 thread. I agree that noobs need to ask questions but at least look for the answer first. If you end on the irc you will find I'm one of the first people to help someone. These constant new threads with the same subject matter are just cluttering up the forum and making it impossible for noobs to learn anything because the real information is buried in endless....THE HONEYCOMB XOOM DUMP IS OUT.....WHY DON"T WE HAVE A HONEYCOMB ROM YET!!!!!!!......threads. Or one of the 100 threads started asking how to install clockwork or a rom. Most questions can be answered in the sticky posts alone but no one wants to read. They want they info spelled out to them personally. This doesn't go for everyone but its certainly intended for the "honeycomb is on the Nook, why not on the GTab now that we have a system dump" crowd.
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Notice he said reading.....All I did was read for 2 weeks before I started posting and I havent started 1 thread. I agree that noobs need to ask questions but at least look for the answer first. If you end on the irc you will find I'm one of the first people to help someone. These constant new threads with the same subject matter are just cluttering up the forum and making it impossible for noobs to learn anything because the real information is buried in endless....THE HONEYCOMB XOOM DUMP IS OUT.....WHY DON"T WE HAVE A HONEYCOMB ROM YET!!!!!!!......threads. Or one of the 100 threads started asking how to install clockwork or a rom. Most questions can be answered in the sticky posts alone but no one wants to read. They want they info spelled out to them personally. This doesn't go for everyone but its certainly intended for the "honeycomb is on the Nook, why not on the GTab now that we have a system dump" crowd.
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I agree on the need to read... I have read and read, I haven't asked because I was learning slowly about all things android. For me it is hard to ask questions for fear of being called a "noob" and told to "read and search". I appreciate what those who know have done for people like me.
Glad to see you did'nt leave frogman!
I'm very glad to see that everyone's excited, but this is not going to be an easy task, at least not for me (I can't speak for the other devs and modders of whom I bow to their collective genius).
A system dump is a start, but it's not the whole picture. It's like putting together a new bicycle that's sort of the same as the old kind, but with no manual and only half the parts. Trust me, I've already tried and for longer than you might know - so far no dice.
You want to help us out? If you plan to buy one of these tomorrow, try to root it and get us a boot.img. Or the unlocked bootloader. Or a full nvflash dump would be wonderful (that's how I got the Adam mod to work on a GTAB - not because I'm a genius but because I was darn lucky that NI was forced to release an nvflash dump). I'll even take an init.rc - anything would be appreciated.
But chants of "what don't we have a port yet?" over isn't going to help us at all (and you know who you are). Seriously, I would greatly appreciate it if you would please stop. Thanks in advance.
ndgayan said:
I know XOOM running Tagra 2. The first vision of SDK compatible for that Nooks processor. But however they run 3.0 on Nook. But now we have full system dump running on Xoom. Why we can't do like Nook guy's?
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dude, you've been clamoring on for over a month. It'll be ready when it's ready. Learn to dev yourself or stfu and have a little patience. Pissing off the devs that do this as a hobby will get you nowhere.
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mirror solution
better webtop soluction
RADIO FM solution
better root solution
CM7 build
Sense Build
MIUI Build
Touch witz Build
HTC Sensation Keyboard Port for Atrix
native mvk and others good codecs support to webtop/mediacenter/phone
Modifications on MediaCenter?!(it is possible?!)
OC kernel
if anyone remember more post here
Requesting a dev to work on something without a payout is like going to a mechanic and saying, "yeah I want my car to have 800HP, but I am not paying you for it. just do it. "
If you are wanting this done fast, get about 2 grand into a paypal and be ready to drop it for someone to work. These people do this stuff for free! Stop demanding!
When something is available then it will be posted. If you arent willing to work on it yourself, stop posting. The devs know what the community wants, they are not retarded. I really wish these posts would stop popping up.
Kthnx.
stop do this =/.....I only want do a topic with all we want ...and reegroup here when its done too simplify
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1138204
90% of those requests are terrible. Why would devs waste time putting other manafacturers skins on our phone? If you want sense so bad, why the hell didn't you buy an HTC phone?
detroitjb said:
90% of those requests are terrible. Why would devs waste time putting other manafacturers skins on our phone? If you want sense so bad, why the hell didn't you buy an HTC phone?
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Thats the idea behind eval-'s thread. If people want to pledge money to it and a developer wants to pick it up it happens.
i requested help for a kernel without thermal throttling in Q&A because we are many with phone working at 50%...
if they help us i can buy them a coffee, no problem
There is already a touchwiz launcher floating around here somewhere so yea.
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malfuncion said:
Requesting a dev to work on something without a payout is like going to a mechanic and saying, "yeah I want my car to have 800HP, but I am not paying you for it. just do it."
Kthnx.
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Not that I entirely disagree people shouldn't ask to much of devs, but that statement doesn't work
a mechanic would do work on your car, and it would only be your car. A dev makes something once and everyone can use it. Surely you see a difference?
If you went to a mechanic and asked him to figure out how to make all of a certain model of car have 800HP, and he had the same model car, its a but of a different situation.
That said, whatever devs dev I'm happy with, just felt the need to point out the mechanic analogy doesn't suit this.
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Glad to see people still posting useless threads in the dev section
Can we get this moved to general?
You want it ? Learn to do it yourself... lots of info thats all easy to access with google. Mr. Clown please Close this useless thread
Another good thing is native mvk and others good codecs support.
Ririal said:
Glad to see people still posting useless threads in the dev section
Can we get this moved to general?
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You my friend should be a mod lol they are all pointless threads
EclipseX said:
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Just by writing ' request devs' in the title of the thread doesn't make it a dev. thread. Patience is the key. Post things like this in general section.
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firefox3 said:
You my friend should be a mod lol they are all pointless threads
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Not ALL pointless...
Atrix ~_~