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Any moderators watching this threads?

Hello Moderators,
People are posting their roms here which are not doing what they are supposed to do, but the page where one dodwnloads the roms remains the same without any update on what is working and what is not.Can anything be done about it?

lol maybe if they could tell what you were asking.
Edit: I get it.. Are you seriously *****ing bout devs who take there personal time to post ROMs but not always update their main page?

I think he is talking about the WIKI pages and if that is the case then to the OP you need to understand how this works
1. a dev posts a rom they cooked in a new thread
2. it is up to us as a community to update the WIKI not the moderators
if the rom is a popular one then it is going to stay at the top of the treads deal with it.
edit: nope you are right Tipharet I read it worng. rukshmani you need to deal with it and read the treads that these roms have before you flash them anyways becuase if you dont then you end up asking questions that have been asked 200 times before. please stop complaing about these great people taking time from their lives and families to make our experience better.

Well, just read through the posts and you will no what is working or not working. It really is as easy as that.

Updating the first post to a ROM release is the responsibility of the developer of that rom. Not the job of the moderators.
If you think a rom needs to have it's post updated, why don't you PM the developer yourself. If you were instead referring to the sticky-wiki for tracking roms, you aare as free to update/edit that as any one of us are.
Not, trying to sound rude, but it is difficult to understand what EXACTLY it is that you are asking for.

rukshmani said:
Its okay if apps2sd and other stuff are not working. But update the first page, where people download. That page still says app2sd working.
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daryelv said:
It's working on mine... I'm running V2. I can't remember what I had to do exactly to get it working though.
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rukshmani said:
Hello Moderators,
People are posting their roms here which are not doing what they are supposed to do, but the page where one dodwnloads the roms remains the same without any update on what is working and what is not.Can anything be done about it?
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This is what this about. He downloaded DarchLegend and couldnt get his app2sd to work. And then started this thread. Although its clearly working for someone else.

gomorrah said:
This is what this about. He downloaded DarchLegend and couldnt get his app2sd to work. And then started this thread. Although its clearly working for someone else.
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seriously I try not to flame people but apps2sd is a perk on a rom not a requirement! stop trying to get a moderator involved because you dont want to do the work little bit of work that might need to be done to get something to work that YOU want.
if I didnt think it would get me susspended I would pull a page from gbhils book and post a rediculiously inapropriate image to get this thread closed down.
edit: not directed at you gomorrah I forgot that what you quoted doesnt show when I quote you.

Developers cannot sit at their computers 24/7 watching to make sure every developer updates his OP timely... u have to realize two things. One these guys developing roms 99% of them have real world jobs and families which take 99% of their time. Two, this would take time away from the mods real job which is to warn and ban offenders of the forum rules. This is not part of a mod's day to day task. Now if a developer is posting bs roms that r bricking everyones' phones that have downloaded them then yes at that point a mod would have to get involved but that has never happened to my knowledge on this site. Sorry dude but just b/c everyone else on this forum has the same phone as u doesn't mean that it will accept new rom flashes/modifications the same as someone elses. Any slight variance is settings from urs to the next guys could plunder a rom flash attempt. Do ur homework before messing with ur phone. Tons of others have had no problems so obviously they did something right. Most of all every developer always puts " Not responsible for what happens to ur phone by flashing this software" It's completely ur risk.

i see link is not being updated.. and other link is being updated.. two links active and same rom download pages.. Maybe, he clicked one of those that is not being updated and got confused.

man this whole cdma hero thread has gone downhill this week. one guy posting warez, another whining bout devs. at least theres no donation warz lol

another case of the "entitled victim"... where is the vomit smilie when you need one?
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Avalaunchmods said:
man this whole cdma hero thread has gone downhill this week. one guy posting warez, another whining bout devs. at least theres no donation warz lol
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Uh no you started a donation war :O.
Also in response to the person who needed a vomit smiley.
Here yah go

All I gotta say is tuff ****, read buddy.
If you want something your way do it yourself and if you cant then again tuff **** take what you get.

Avalaunchmods said:
man this whole cdma hero thread has gone downhill this week. one guy posting warez, another whining bout devs. at least theres no donation warz lol
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Yep and now theres another guy that just posted on how to get free service. What is going on here?
My theory still holds I think. People are so desperately wanting 2.1 ( not even really knowing why) and it seems to be making ppl irrational to say the least...lol
Yeah and I was hoping the op wasnt actually *****ing bout what I translated. You would assume that most people know not all devices and software run the same on 100% of devices.

Tipharet said:
What is going on here?
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who knows... to a certain degree forums should be a priveledge not a right...
too bad we couldn't create a "pay for membership" forum where all the members control the other members, threads, guidelines, etc.
a self-moderating group of like minded people that understand the guidelines and follow them. if you could be banned with no refund, i'm sure people would be ready to follow rules, not give opinions where none were asked for or any of the other atrocities i've seen on this site since i joined just a few weeks ago.
i sometimes wonder why there aren't "etiquette moderators" that enforce common forum etiquette. i find that too often one wrong post can start 6 pages of useless banter eventually rendering the thread a personal vendetta against one person, vs the etiquette moderator simply dealing with the issue and not allowing good threads to go to thread hell.
i can dream right?
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My opinion, Android is just so seemless and appealing to everyone, not just tweakers. So what we are seeing is more folks that havent been in forums like these and understand what is right and wrong. When little petey goes to the sprint store and sees the TP2 with winmo, plays with it and says "This is just to hard for me." he then picks up the Hero and says "Wow, this phone is more asthetically appealing and much easier to use.". Hence why we now have to deal with a much lower intellect of members because quite simply, Android is a great OS.

Oh my God, I can't even believe this thread exists. I'm moving to AndroidCentral.

Simple solution for [ROM] threads to not grow to 98697615897834 pages...

Ok, so as I was reading though the DC 2.06 thread trying to gain some knowledge and figure out any bugs/workarounds/tips/tricks I got to page 30 something and just had to post this.
PLEASE
PLEASE
PLEASE
Stop posting USELESS, POINTLESS, BLOATING, POSTS!!!
I'm not trying to be hostile or anything but posts like....
"booting it now!" and "waiting for files to copy back to my sd card." and "I'm only 50% downloaded, can't wait!!"
While yes... it's good you are excited, but honestly, 99% of us don't give a damn. It makes it freakin' IMPOSSIBLE to navigate through this forum!!! And I don't want to hear anybody cry "Search" either. vBulletin search is NOT the best out there. I think yahoo Boolean searches from 1997 were better. And you have to search with the most basic of keywords, and those keywords (like apps2sd) are used in so many POINTLESS posts that its again, USELESS.
I mean, there is basically NO moderation here. It's like XDA Hero CDMA forums isn't even here. Things just run amock.
Sorry if this post came off as a bit hard, but come on. I mean, COME ON. Let's ALL work together to make this forum a little easier to find information. Is your post asking a question or adding anything to the community? No? Then think twice about posting in a [ROM] thread. I know the Devs appreciate the positive re-inforcement of their ROMs and they deserve it! However I dont think ROM threads are the place for that, NOT ONLY THAT, but when threads such as DC's start as a 2.0 and then are updated to 2.1 then 2.2 then 2.3 etc etc etc and the original post of the thread is changed instead of creating a new thread, so therefor the first 200 pages aren't even remotely relevant to 2.3 they're still from 2.0!
Ok, I'm sorry...
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i'm not trying to be hostile or anything, and i don't have anything against this or you, but really.
there have been so many threads JUST like this before. they all say the same thing.
in the end, they become one of those 'useless' posts, because no matter how many times you say this, its probably not going to stop people from making useless posts. sorry

AGREED! And it didn't come of hard to me!

Plus, those posts are more useful than this one. At least they give the dev, who worked for hours or days or months on the ROM, the satisfaction of knowing people appreciate it.
This post, on the other hand, accomplishes nothing.

justinisyoung said:
i'm not trying to be hostile or anything, and i don't have anything against this or you, but really.
there have been so many threads JUST like this before. they all say the same thing.
in the end, they become one of those 'useless' posts, because no matter how many times you say this, its probably not going to stop people from making useless posts. sorry
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Then somebody give me some damn moderation powers and I'll click that delete button all day long.
I moderate 3 other vBulletin forums. Mainly car forums, with 50,000+ members. I have no problem keeping them clean, and would not mind spending some of that time over here too. Hell even if I'm the only one doing it that's better than nothing!

thats definitely the worst thing about this forum. we don't have any active mods on this one. most other forums do. not us.

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Plus, those posts are more useful than this one. At least they give the dev, who worked for hours or days or months on the ROM, the satisfaction of knowing people appreciate it.
This post, on the other hand, accomplishes nothing.
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Really?
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Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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awesome visited the forums at exactly the right time it seems..downloading now
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YES!!!!!!!!
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downloading now. this is my crack
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Downloading now. Thanks!!!
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You get my point?
Ok, you said your thanks.... time for CONSOLIDATION!

Yeah although u are correct in ur intent. The best way to get these issues taken care of is for our forum to get a mod that actually spends time here and doesn't mind being hated. I personally have tried to get them to make me a mod. But I guess u gotta be someone special to get that privilege. As I always do what they ask of me then never here a reply ontheir decision. Our forum is held down by the fact we don't have subforums like general, themes and apps, q&a and so on. But yeah the only way to get are issues resolved is to contact the mods and ask them to help us.

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You get my point?
Ok, you said your thanks.... time for CONSOLIDATION!
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ROFL This post made me laugh. Its so true, those posts are useless and offer nothing to the Rom maker.

I like the idea of the developers having something like a discuss thread where the good jobs and such can continue be posted for the roms. It becomes pretty difficult looking through the thread to find useful tidbits when it gets to be over 50 pages or so.
I do agree that having a moderator would be of great benefit too. +1 for toast becoming a mod.

U cant fix stupid :-/ people think posts counts make them cool. Posting one word replies followed by 10chars. Itll never be fixed, too many idiots. Just be happy we dont have that gay rep system.

Personally I like treasure hunts, so I am pretty happy the way things are. Lol.
Joking aside, I think that this is one of the strongest online communities/forum that I have joined and cared about. I think that the slack the moderators allow has allot to do with how I feel about this community. People are allowed to have a personality, a opinion, and a sense of humor here. It is very nice to come to a forum like this.
The way I read the long ROM threads is read the first page then go to last page and work my way backwards... works well for me. I see the updates the ROM creator posted and then the latest information being passed along that way.

Thinking about what i read now........ can't wait to finish..
LOL no really i do wish we could kindly ask the Devs to start a new thread upon each major revision and maybe put a link in the new thread to the previous version's tread. then post like mine about may not become as frustrating to read do to the lower volume of them.

doojer said:
Plus, those posts are more useful than this one. At least they give the dev, who worked for hours or days or months on the ROM, the satisfaction of knowing people appreciate it.
This post, on the other hand, accomplishes nothing.
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Actually he is trying to make this forum more manageable. Which IMO you would have to be blind not to realiese. Seriously 300+ pages are really hard to go though. And sometimes in threads ill see a theme or something cool and ill feel like good thing I read every post in that thread or I wouldnt have that. It feels like some really cool stuff gets barried in the threads.

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Actually he is trying to make this forum more manageable. Which IMO you would have to be blind not to realiese. Seriously 300+ pages are really hard to go though. And sometimes in threads ill see a theme or something cool and ill feel like good thing I read every post in that thread or I wouldnt have that. It feels like some really cool stuff gets barried in the threads.
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Damageless is trying to fix finding updates and themes with his updater tool. The updates will come to you! How cool is that? He is also going to try to help other devs to include a updater on their ROMs. Although this will not fix how cluttered the threads are in this forum it will assist you in finding the latest and greatest ways to trick out your Hero.

the only thing that should change is just every time a fix is found the OP should just take the fix and put it in the first post. People should be able to flash a rom and have the fixes all in the first post, this way people dont ask repeat questions. Whether or not everyone likes it people are always going to post "useless" stuff, which can be viewed as appreciative thanks or just people showing their excitement. I personally like xda a lot because people have personality its not all just straight discussion about a rom or anything like that.

Maybe we just could have a separate subforum for each major ROM? that way there could be the threads for people rambling and such, and separate threads for bug fixes, releases, etc.

I'm new 'round here (obviously), and I have to agree, finding the information I need has been difficult with every thread being hundreds pages. Finding that one post of someone with the same problem as me (and a solution) is a monumental task.
Just give each rom author a thread for people to leave their thanks, and keep the rom threads to discussing the rom.

+frickin1 for this thread. I think we should just start a poll to vote for someone here to be a mod, and just make the current XDA moderators accept that we have that mod... it's just ridiculous how it is right now.

what about in-thread stickies...there has to be a plugin for it somewhere...where you can nominate posts as thread stickies and all of the thread stickies, once approved by the OP, move to the beginning of the thread, so it would go
1st Post: OP
2nd Post: First approved helpful post
3rd Post: 2nd approved.... etc
that way all of the useful stuff will be right on that first page. If it's not already a plugin...it should be.

Can we stop bashing new people in here please

I am starting to see when a new person who has no idea of how things work asks a question and gets bashed. Iam wondering do any of the xda-developer vets want xda-developers to grow or die out? New people once they learn how things work , might later start developing new and exciting products. Can we please show them some respect. Thank you for reading!

Can you give us example what you're saying?

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Can you give us example what you're saying?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=714574

justwonder said:
Can you give us example what you're saying?
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You being serious?

zarpy said:
I am starting to see when a new person who has no idea of how things work asks a question and gets bashed. Iam wondering do any of the xda-developer vets want xda-developers to grow or die out? New people once they learn how things work , might later start developing new and exciting products. Can we please show them some respect. Thank you for reading!
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100% agree!
Well said!

zarpy said:
I am starting to see when a new person who has no idea of how things work asks a question and gets bashed. Iam wondering do any of the xda-developer vets want xda-developers to grow or die out? New people once they learn how things work , might later start developing new and exciting products. Can we please show them some respect. Thank you for reading!
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Somebody needs a nap ....
But on a serious note I guess we should just stop having rules altogether ....
If bashing people is what you call expecting people even newbs to follow the rules then I guess bashing it is ...
Not totally disagreeing with you, but partially , yes sometimes vets are harsh with newbs, but if 500 people walked up to you and asked you the same question over and over how long would it take for you to get tired of it ....

ok then i just have my rule
Well I dont want to continue because it seems the majority of vets are annoyed at new users. So now I will have this rule from now on to make things simple. Any time I see this behavoir towards newbies , I will post a link to www.ppcgeeks.com . So since newbies are a problem to the vets here, I will redirect them to different website. That should handle all the problems.

zarpy said:
I am starting to see when a new person who has no idea of how things work asks a question and gets bashed. Iam wondering do any of the xda-developer vets want xda-developers to grow or die out? New people once they learn how things work , might later start developing new and exciting products. Can we please show them some respect. Thank you for reading!
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XDA will grow no matter what but if you think that XDA is more interested in the number of users it has, you are sadly mistaken.
It's very easy to pop in here and create ANOTHER useless thread asking everyone to be nice to the newbies.
All the senior members here were all newbies once. All the chefs and developers were newbies too. They didn't get to be where they are by starting up useless HELP ME threads because they were too lazy to get off their behinds and help themselves.
I've been here since 2006 and my post count very recently crossed 500. I've hung out at XDA almost every single day since the day I officially joined and about another year before that without being a member. I've learnt A LOT over here and given everything that I've learnt, if I were to have posted a HELP ME thread everytime I wanted something, I would have probably raked in about 10k posts by now. Think about how many threads and posts we would have from heavily contributing members if they were to take the HELP ME route.
I've been around here so long and know enough people here that no one would have an issue with me opening a thread for any query that I have, yet I don't... why? because XDA is a repository. Every question that anyone can think of has already been asked and has already been discussed.
I can understand how overwhelming everything can be for a newbie, but that still doesn't excuse the HELP ME threads. SEARCH, Look around, do your due diligence and you will find what you need. Nothing comes easy. You have to work for it. Google Search makes things exceptionally easy. Use it and stop crapping this place up.
Honestly, IMO, the mods here are really nice. Too nice infact. People here get away with just about anything. If you guys think people here are tough then you haven't seen how strict things are around the internet. I swear to god, if I was a mod here, the trash can would be overflowing.
Please... stop these incessant rants.
@zarpy.. PPCGeeks is miniscule compared to XDA. Trust me, the mods and the members over there take care of their forum more aggressively than XDA. It's only a matter of time before they start booting LAZY newbies.

Yeah I agree with this, I find it funny like people were born with the knowledge and talk to people who are clueless like they were never in there shoes before. I myself just got a HD2 not to long ago never really used a phone of the sort with apps and etc. I am however tech smart with PCs and like to learn on my own as it benefits you in the long run so I've picked up the basics just by doing. But not everyone is tech smart especially with phones as a lot of it I do not have a clue what it means even though I am tech smart, but I'm learning what does what slowly and how to install different types of apps, games, and themes
If some of you veterans with these phones disagree with this, your simply a liar and should go play in a fire

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Don't you want to understand what is going on, before you're saying?

Can someone explain what this has to do with "Themes and Apps" please?
Honestly...Noobs...

Stay tune, OP will redirect you to another site, your question will be answered.

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Stay tune, OP will redirect you to another site, your question will be answered.
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LOL... Oh boy that was funny. LOL

HELP ME IM NEW and opps i had caps on four icons to look goodier lyke iphone has

I can see both sides of this point... Yes the search feature is important, and relitivley easy. Most of the bashing is because people dont use it.
But have you all ever stopped to think about this lil situation?
You are looking for an app, but have no clue what it is called???
Or you are from another country, and have difficulty writing English, even though you can speak it clearly enough.
Then there are the noobs that have no clue (like my self) and come looking for help or ask a question to learn.
Many crash in flames because the people who know the answers, only shoot em down. Even after using the search feature. (yes I have seen this situation here as well)
The easy solution is to just not post a flaming bash to the question, or better yet, just dont post anything at all. Someone that does know and has compassion will answer at some point. Or the person asking will do a search or search again or at some point.
It takes more effort to post a bash than it does to point them in the rite direction and teach the noobs.
The old saying "if you have nothing nice to say, say nothing at all" REALLY fits here.
Question for all of you to ask your self... When you signed up here, did you READ ALL of the rules before you posted? I'm willing to bet a very small percentage did infact, READ ALL of the rules. So many (not all) of you really have no room to point fingers.

ALL I HAVE TO SAY IS ROFL AT THE OP!!!
OMFG you actually started a thread because someone detailed a few rules!!
And the example you posted of getting bashed....i just reported the entire thread for closure as it is a complete waste of time...much like this one!!
Thanks for the chuckle over breakfast... most hilarious!
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I can see both sides of this point... Yes the search feature is important, and relitivley easy. Most of the bashing is because people dont use it.
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But have you all ever stopped to think about this lil situation?
You are looking for an app, but have no clue what it is called???
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Regardless you wouldnt start new threads asking "Whats that app called....."
or another find eg is the one here "Please help me install icons" i mean WTF, if the guy has icons, he got them from a thread right? EXACTLY, so y not post the question there? common sense no?
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Or you are from another country, and have difficulty writing English, even though you can speak it clearly enough.
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Im sorry to sound like a jerk, but who the hell cares about this....
first forum rule is "USE ENGLISH"
therefore who gives a crap, if you cant speak the language use one of the million free translators and post in English, followed by your native language.
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Then there are the noobs that have no clue (like my self) and come looking for help or ask a question to learn.
Many crash in flames because the people who know the answers, only shoot em down. Even after using the search feature. (yes I have seen this situation here as well)
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Ok the reason you would get bashed is if your asking easily findable questions.
Someone ask a dumb question i think they should get bashed, before i answer ANY questions i google search for an answer, if i find one on the first page, the the person asking the question will get no answer and flamed/bashed.
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The easy solution is to just not post a flaming bash to the question, or better yet, just dont post anything at all.
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How about people dont post stupid questions? do you ever think that with the size of this site, the vet users dont get p*ssed off with noobs asking the same things over and over again?
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Someone that does know and has compassion will answer at some point. Or the person asking will do a search or search again or at some point.
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these peope with compasion, while good for you, they are actually bad, because in stead of forcing you into a position where you actually have to search after being bashed and told that it is a stupid/easy/useless question they just give the answers.
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It takes more effort to post a bash than it does to point them in the rite direction and teach the noobs.
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WHAT COMPLETE AND UTTER GARBAGE!!!!
WTF man, seriously you think we should spend our time teaching noobs?8 years ago i used to get smashed to pieces but the likes of Olipro, and if you think people bash now you should have seen him when he was about...wow...i think you would be crying in the corner!
I run 2 HUGE threads in this forum, and i got that sick after the thousands of idiots that couldnt even be bothered to read the instructions and just posted things like "Help i cant do it"
we need more Olipro's to get rid of the IDIOT noobs who CANNOT BE ARSED SEARCHING.
TEACHING ROFL, jes, would you like me to come to your house and dress you for school too?
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The old saying "if you have nothing nice to say, say nothing at all" REALLY fits here.
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Again more rubbish, people not a days are just too LAZY to do things for themselves.
how about this "Ask a stupid question get a stupid answer"
ROFL PWNED!!!
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Question for all of you to ask your self... When you signed up here, did you READ ALL of the rules before you posted?
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Yes
and initially i asked stupid questions and i got flames and bashed, but i wasnt a ***** and i didnt cry about it ans start threads asking people to stop bashing me.
i learnt that if i was getting bashed there was a reason and i accepted that, where as now we hae the folowing:
1: Guy ask Stupid Question
2: Vets Bash
3: Guy crys
4: Guy opens more threads asking about "why am i getting bashed"
5: vets see the thread and get more P*ssed dish out mroe bashing
6: Guy crys more
7: Guy posts the eg of why he gets bashed in the new "why am i getting bashed" thread
8: Vets come along and thing WTF is this guys problem is he stupid?
here is the ULTIMATE easy solution
Search using xda search, search using google search, when posting your question past in the URL for the results of your search so people can see how you searched/what terms you used
then i Guarantee there will be no flames, and probably a few suggestion on changing search terms etc

Read and Search is the key to not posting usless threads
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XDA will grow no matter what but if you think that XDA is more interested in the number of users it has, you are sadly mistaken.
I would have probably raked in about 10k posts by now.
Every question that anyone can think of has already been asked and has already been discussed.
Honestly, IMO, the mods here are really nice. Too nice infact. People here get away with just about anything. If you guys think people here are tough then you haven't seen how strict things are around the internet.
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Couldn´t be more than agree with you leepriestenator, except for the part of the 10k posts
I am almost there
P.S Mods please move to proper discussion place

MG
I know alot of people read Mystics Genius post and thought damn cavemen exist in this day and age.
Laughing my a&+) off hahahaha you said 8 years ago you got bashed here by olipro. Your join date is 2008 its 2010 .....hahahahha where"s your math teacher he did a horrible job hahahahaha.
You this thread was opened by a newbie that wants to know why he got thrash. Your english teacher didnt teach you how to read properly hahaha.
Iam a vet here , I opened this thread because Iam tired of this attitude thats starting to take place.
You remembered when you used to get bashed and thrashed , so you think its right. How dumb are you , so if your dad beat you everyday, does that mean you beat your son? I hope not!!! You suppose to learn , but you stayed aan idiot all this time. 8 years and you learn nothing hahahahaha your the true definition of moron. Iam not mad, I think your a joke hahahahaha.

I just hope you guys don't expect your doctors, lawyers, police officers and everyone else of importance in life to answer your questions...that have been asked and asked over and over again. The answers to your heart problems are on the internet. A little Bing search will find them. You don't need to bother your doctor with clarification questions.
Please stop harrassing your lawyers. They answer the exact same questions you ask time and again. They must be so sick of answering those questions over and over again. All of the answers you can think of are clearly posted online. Do a search of Google or Bing and stop asking your important people questions.

hmmm.... i feel that as newbie

[Port] Galaxy SII ICS progression(NON DEV ISSUES & Q&A)

As the title of the thread says anything you want to post keep it here regarding the ICS porting... Please, keep all your posts and wishes to the devs here. That is the entire point of this thread; for general discussions and non-dev issues.I will always try and keep updates in this thread and in the first post..
Also keep up to date here.
http://codeworkx.de/wordpress/2011/11/20/status-update-for-ics-on-galaxy-s-ii/
Notice to everyone before going ahead and posting in this thread. Please read here
Working
Display
Touchscreen
RIL
Audio
Wifi
GPS
Sensors
SD Cards
Bluetooth
Phone ending
Rotation
transparency fixed courtesy of Team Hacksung
HWcomposer is working now(this is what it does.For using the GPU to render the UI.)
Soft keys have now gone ala Nexus style
What's not working
Camera
Video Recording
Video Codecs
Call Mic so far not working during calls
—IMPORTANT INFO—
The team working on the project:
TeamHacksung
Xplowild
Intratech's amazing posts. Quality post 1,Quality Post 2
Thanks again to all devs for the hard work they are doing for us

Development thread and Q&A/General threads always end up the same... you know.. because people in dev section just noob it.
So...
Let's give some estimates?
I say I ll have ICS running in no more than 34 hours.

jastonas said:
Development thread and Q&A/General threads always end up the same... you know.. because people in dev section just noob it.
So...
Let's give some estimates?
I say I ll have ICS running in no more than 34 hours.
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well hope you are right about the estimates but regarding the other part i will make sure that all noob questions are posted here instead...wished i was a mod to say that noob questions posted there will be welcomed with a big ban with it anyways the thread is here now so anyone wants to leave even the most pointless post do it here instead

Just wondering - how many threads/posts do you have per day?

King Shady said:
Just wondering - how many threads/posts do you have per day?
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this is the one and only one i have King all respect to you Sir i got no lifei have the xda bug.....
EDIT:30 posts a day.... why not...better than going out and gambling or doing drugs
and anyway this is to help the team concentrate on their work and for noobs and the rest to post there stuff here...keep that thread in android section just for pure dev posts..no harm in that is there

Matriak31 said:
this is the one and only one i have King all respect to you Sir i got no lifei have the xda bug.....
EDIT:30 posts a day.... why not...better than going out and gambling or doing drugs
and anyway this is to help the team concentrate on their work and for noobs and the rest to post there stuff here...keep that thread in android section just for pure dev posts..no harm in that is there
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Haha true. Well I'm glad to see you helping out in all ways possible .

I tried putting Icecream sandwich on my Galaxy S2 but I think it's incompatible! It melted and now my phone's all sticky.

karendar said:
I tried putting Icecream sandwich on my Galaxy S2 but I think it's incompatible! It melted and now my phone's all sticky.
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aaaaww just wipe it and you'll be fine ! ^^

karendar said:
I tried putting Icecream sandwich on my Galaxy S2 but I think it's incompatible! It melted and now my phone's all sticky.
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Here it starts ....!
• This thread should be a sticky till ICS release.

karendar said:
I tried putting Icecream sandwich on my Galaxy S2 but I think it's incompatible! It melted and now my phone's all sticky.
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jeandujardin01 said:
aaaaww just wipe it and you'll be fine ! ^^
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If wiping it doesn't work,paint it blue(Will match the ICS theme too) and throw it in the sea.It's effective.You'll never have problems with that phone again.
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well hope you are right about the estimates but regarding the other part i will make sure that all noob questions are posted here instead...wished i was a mod to say that noob questions posted there will be welcomed with a big ban with it anyways the thread is here now so anyone wants to leave even the most pointless post do it here instead
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It's a good thing that noobull****(You know,noobs' bull**** ) tend to be seperated from development thread.They just tend to though.When the day comes that XDA forums will be divided in noob and developer forums and noobs stick to their rightful place,then XDA will be a better place.Ahh Utopia...
To avoid misunderstandings:
I don't call anyone who isn't a developer a noob.If I did,I'd be calling 90% of XDA's users,including me and people much better than me,noobs.Noobs are those typical idiots with that strange sense of entitlement to other,more skilled people's work,while they don't contribute to anything.Although I'm pretty sure most of you know what I mean...

tolis626 said:
If wiping it doesn't work,paint it blue(Will match the ICS theme too) and throw it in the sea.It's effective.You'll never have problems with that phone again.
To avoid misunderstandings:
I don't call anyone who isn't a developer a noob.If I did,I'd be calling 90% of XDA's users,including me and people much better than me,noobs.Noobs are those typical idiots with that strange sense of entitlement to other,more skilled people's work,while they don't contribute to anything.Although I'm pretty sure most of you know what I mean...
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I knew my spur of stupidity would give good feedback. haha.
Yeah, well keep in mind that most of us have been noobs at sometime or another. What's important is how long you move away from n00bishness and become like everyone else. heh

King Shady said:
Haha true. Well I'm glad to see you helping out in all ways possible .
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thanks mate. i know im not a dev or themer or know coding and stuff but if i can help in any way so the devs can get their work done in peace then that for me is job well done and i will do anything for it to happen.
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I tried putting Icecream sandwich on my Galaxy S2 but I think it's incompatible! It melted and now my phone's all sticky.
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joker..nice to see you here mate
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Here it starts ....!
• This thread should be a sticky till ICS release.
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i think it should be..so at least people can stop opening pointless threads and at least they can use this as their source
tolis626 said:
If wiping it doesn't work,paint it blue(Will match the ICS theme too) and throw it in the sea.It's effective.You'll never have problems with that phone again.
It's a good thing that noobull****(You know,noobs' bull**** ) tend to be seperated from development thread.They just tend to though.When the day comes that XDA forums will be divided in noob and developer forums and noobs stick to their rightful place,then XDA will be a better place.Ahh Utopia...
To avoid misunderstandings:
I don't call anyone who isn't a developer a noob.If I did,I'd be calling 90% of XDA's users,including me and people much better than me,noobs.Noobs are those typical idiots with that strange sense of entitlement to other,more skilled people's work,while they don't contribute to anything.Although I'm pretty sure most of you know what I mean...
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Amen to that file mou....Sympwnw apolita mazi sou...(agree with you) we are all noobs we all started from somewere but there is a line between not knowing and actually trying to find out something on your own..
karendar said:
I knew my spur of stupidity would give good feedback. haha.
Yeah, well keep in mind that most of us have been noobs at sometime or another. What's important is how long you move away from n00bishness and become like everyone else. heh
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again another well good post...keep them coming..
anything you might know guys or anyone that can help the cause of getting port over now since the source is out(yes i know drivers are the most important piece of the puzzle) post it here and i will put it in the first post so we can keep everyone else updated.. thanks to you all and the devs who take their time to do all this for us...

Matriak31 said:
thanks mate. i know im not a dev or themer or know coding and stuff but if i can help in any way so the devs can get their work done in peace then that for me is job well done and i will do anything for it to happen.
joker..nice to see you here mate
i think it should be..so at least people can stop opening pointless threads and at least they can use this as their source
Amen to that file mou....Sympwnw apolita mazi sou...(agree with you) we are all noobs we all started from somewere but there is a line between not knowing and actually trying to find out something on your own..
again another well good post...keep them coming..
anything you might know guys or anyone that can help the cause of getting port over now since the source is out(yes i know drivers are the most important piece of the puzzle) post it here and i will put it in the first post so we can keep everyone else updated.. thanks to you all and the devs who take their time to do all this for us...
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You either speek Greek for some reason,or we Greeks are much more common than I thought.
Anyway,yes,we've all acted noobish at times,but there are two types of noobs as I have said elsewhere:
i)The "I want to learn" noob,who is the good noob and the one to be deprived of his noobishness quickly and once and for all.
ii)The "I'm an ass and think I deserve it all" noob,who is that typical idiot that asks the same question that was answered two posts above his.Number (ii) is the plague of every tech forum,not only XDA.
Being a noob isn't bad by itself.The problem is which noob type you choose to be.

tolis626 said:
You either speek Greek for some reason,or we Greeks are much more common than I thought.
Anyway,yes,we've all acted noobish at times,but there are two types of noobs as I have said elsewhere:
i)The "I want to learn" noob,who is the good noob and the one to be deprived of his noobishness quickly and once and for all.
ii)The "I'm an ass and think I deserve it all" noob,who is that typical idiot that asks the same question that was answered two posts above his.Number (ii) is the plague of every tech forum,not only XDA.
Being a noob isn't bad by itself.The problem is which noob type you choose to be.
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Haha..I love your posts.. Make so much sense...And fully fledged Greek my friend..
I choose number 1..That is the kinda noob i consider myself to be..There are still things i am learning...Do not thing it would be to the level of dev or themer but i feel pretty good so far in what i have learned in the short space i have been using android.

Rant... ish.
I don't think it's just forums where you find this issue. The world seems to be full of people these days who seem to think that the entire planet owes them something although they have probably not done a days honest work in their entire pathetic existence.
Rather off-topic wouldn't you say

Mcjim113 said:
I don't think it's just forums where you find this issue. The world seems to be full of people these days who seem to think that the entire planet owes them something although they have probably not done a days honest work in their entire pathetic existence.
Rather off-topic wouldn't you say
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That is the point of having this thread...So can people post the normal ICS stuff and other things they want to say....Not filling the thread on the dev section with it..
And yeah unfortunately this is life..you will get those kinda people werever you go even if its online or not...

Mcjim113 said:
I don't think it's just forums where you find this issue. The world seems to be full of people these days who seem to think that the entire planet owes them something although they have probably not done a days honest work in their entire pathetic existence.
Rather off-topic wouldn't you say
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Hah,tell me.And one of these guys happens to be teaching me math at school.Pathetic sometimes...Not to sound like a ****er,but some people here consider me something like a genious(at math,physics and chemistry) and he insists that I'm good because he's a good teacher.Stopping this because it'll get ugly!
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Haha..I love your posts.. Make so much sense...And fully fledged Greek my friend..
I choose number 1..That is the kinda noob i consider myself to be..There are still things i am learning...Do not thing it would be to the level of dev or themer but i feel pretty good so far in what i have learned in the short space i have been using android.
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Well yeah,I too consider myself let's say...Part-time noob.I help noobs that are worth it,insult those who deserve it,point out development issues...Well,one does what one can do!
And,Greek?Holy poo!Where are you from?

tolis626 said:
Hah,tell me.And one of these guys happens to be teaching me math at school.Pathetic sometimes...Not to sound like a ****er,but some people here consider me something like a genious(at math,physics and chemistry) and he insists that I'm good because he's a good teacher.Stopping this because it'll get ugly!
Well yeah,I too consider myself let's say...Part-time noob.I help noobs that are worth it,insult those who deserve it,point out development issues...Well,one does what one can do!
And,Greek?Holy poo!Where are you from?
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London based but originally from Cyprus in Larnaka..Same here help noobs that are worth it and try to get them to the next level which is called super noob
And i do have the XDA bug..For some reason im on here learning and plus helping others were i can but also on the look out for new roms to play with and see what new is out.

Matriak31 said:
London based but originally from Cyprus in Larnaka..Same here help noobs that are worth it and try to get them to the next level which is called super noob
And i do have the XDA bug..For some reason im on here learning and plus helping others were i can but also on the look out for new roms to play with and see what new is out.
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Hah!We Greeks are very common to stumble upon after all!
Always happy to see that there is "just-one-more" of us.
Anyway,I don't have the XDA bug at such a degree,but I do have some bad ORD(Obsessive Rom-flashing Disorder).Blood examination didn't show anything.I'll try acupuncture.

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Here it starts ....!
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Haha, if anyone didn't know the lingo here, that would make for one confusing sentence
Sticky thread ice cream sandwich release

[REQ] New Years Resolutions FOR XDA Members

Off topic i know.. but i think there should be a thread like this in every phone type/model section of the Forum..
i feel so so sorry for Devs who keep on getting harassed for ETAs for their prospective ROMS/Kernels/bowel movements etc... i would just like to tell all those people who say "WAN IZ ICE KREAM TRIFLE WERKING ON MAI SAMZUNG UNIVERSE EGG SANDWITCHHHH???"...
Please make at least ONE New Years resolution..
DONT harass the Devs, they do this as a hobby and members of XDA are not their bosses. this is a surefire way of getting very good Devs leaving XDA completely and even worse get them to stop developing at all...
So please please please... for your own sake and everyone elses.. play nicely, think about what you ask.. otherwise the site WILL suffer..
And in the wise words of Jerry Springer
"Be Good to yourself, and Each other"
Ciao for now..

And you really think these noobs are actually going yo read your thread or heed your warnings?
They can't even be bothered reading the OP of a dev rom that has all the info they need.
In real life crims will be crims, idiots will be idiots just like noobs will be noobs.
Sent from my GT-I9100

sxi200 said:
And you really think these noons are actually going yo read your thread or heed your warnings?
They can't even be bothered reading the OP of a dev rom that has all the info they need.
In real life crims will be crims, idiots will be idiots just like noobs will be noobs.
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True True... maybe i should retitle my thread to "ICS WORKINGGGGGGGGGG" that should hook 'em in.. "
it's just really frustrating to see..

nutmegy said:
True True... maybe i should retitle my thread to "ICS WORKINGGGGGGGGGG" that should hook 'em in.. "
it's just really frustrating to see..
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It is really frustrating to see but please do not forget if all followed the rules will would be living in a perfect world and unfortunately we do not. You have a good point but like the post above by sxi2000 i doubt many would read this thread..
but anyway good on you fella and keep soldiering on to get rid of the n00bs...

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It is really frustrating to see but please do not forget if all followed the rules will would be living in a perfect world and unfortunately we do not. You have a good point but like the post above by sxi2000 i doubt many would read this thread..
but anyway good on you fella and keep soldiering on to get rid of the n00bs...
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in terms of my knowledge i am relatively noobish but at least i have common sense... but anyway XDA is getting such a bad name across the Net as the noob swarm of idiots takes over...
just wanted to say my piece.. and pass on my appreciation
Happy New Year to all and hope all your Christmasses/Kwanzas/Hannukahs (unsure of other religions/countries) were groovy..

Ronm Guides instructions etc should all be boldly titled
DO NOT READ THIS >> DO NOT FOLLOW INSTRUCTIONS .
Please ask the same question that was asked half an hour ago .
Yes you can flash a Nokia rom on your SGS .
Before the noobs reply nobody has a complaint about any user that asks a relevant question or cannot quite grasp an instruction set .Its those that simply refuse to learn anything and expect members to do it all for them probably due to them still having mummy wipe their arse .
We all started from zero knowledge but most of us took the time and trouble to read and learn .
jje

nutmegy said:
in terms of my knowledge i am relatively noobish but at least i have common sense... but anyway XDA is getting such a bad name across the Net as the noob swarm of idiots takes over...
just wanted to say my piece.. and pass on my appreciation
Happy New Year to all and hope all your Christmasses/Kwanzas/Hannukahs (unsure of other religions/countries) were groovy..
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Happy New Year to you as well fella

JJEgan said:
Ronm Guides instructions etc should all be boldly titled
DO NOT READ THIS >> DO NOT FOLLOW INSTRUCTIONS .
Please ask the same question that was asked half an hour ago .
Yes you can flash a Nokia rom on your SGS .
Before the noobs reply nobody has a complaint about any user that asks a relevant question or cannot quite grasp an instruction set .Its those that simply refuse to learn anything and expect members to do it all for them probably due to them still having mummy wipe their arse .
We all started from zero knowledge but most of us took the time and trouble to read and learn .
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Quality!
i'm at work and that did make me chuckle..... oh the life of a Network Engineer... now if my SGS2 could run Cisco IOS... hmmmmmm

Well said Nutmegy (and others).
I'm still relatively n00bish, but I've got initiative and a desire to learn everything/anything I can about how this phone ticks. I absolutely agree that anyone who isn't prepared to "do the hard yards" should honestly stick to stock unless/until they are.
This would save a number of people (this number seems to be growing by the week) the grief of "soft bricking" their phone & not being able to use same for however many days it takes to get the advice on here to fix it.

MistahBungle said:
Well said Nutmegy (and others).
I'm still relatively n00bish, but I've got initiative and a desire to learn everything/anything I can about how this phone ticks. I absolutely agree that anyone who isn't prepared to "do the hard yards" should honestly stick to stock unless/until they are.
This would save a number of people (this number seems to be growing by the week) the grief of "soft bricking" their phone & not being able to use same for however many days it takes to get the advice on here to fix it.
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it's not so much the soft bricking.. it's requests for ETAs that seriously does my head in..

Easy to say, but hard to follow in reality idiots will be idiots ...

bala_gamer said:
Easy to say, but hard to follow in reality idiots will be idiots ...
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so true so true

bala_gamer said:
Easy to say, but hard to follow in reality idiots will be idiots ...
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Bala.... you are so right... anyway enough of my rant....
i need a strong coffee... working on a Jack Daniels induced hangover is strictly not advisable...

Oh hell yes. I tend to mock & ask the mods to close the thread. After I've made sure the OP has seen/taken note of my mocking/sarcasm, of course
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it's not so much the soft bricking.. it's requests for ETAs that seriously does my head in..
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This thread is unbelievable senseless. You will nobody convince to stop spamming. Just another off topic,,look-how-good-I-am-and-how-stupid-are-other'' thread. asking such questions is business as usual, every dev should be cool enough to handle and ignore it.
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SupraN0va said:
This thread is unbelievable senseless. You will nobody convince to stop spamming. Just another off topic,,look-how-good-I-am-and-how-stupid-are-other'' thread. asking such questions is business as usual, every dev should be cool enough to handle and ignore it.
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Ok fair enough.. i'm not going to rise up to it... just hungover and fed up of reading crap and watching XDA going down the toilet.. if there is a Mod somewhere please close... it was not my intention to pi$$ anyone else off... just a minor rant....
Merry XMAS and a happy new year to you!

If anyone thinks its bad now...then just wait for next year. It will get much worse.
Very simple reason - just do the maths. Last year in Australia alone android had about 20% market share. This year it rose to 48% of all smartphones sold to be the number 1 operating system. All in just one year. I suspect the same pattern is happening worldwide.
So next year it will only increase. Therefore, more users = more xda members so hold on to your seats boys and girls.
And do you know what??? There is nothing you or I can do about it. Shame!
Maybe a silly suggestion and it may be hard to implemented, but xda should have a system where new members need to have been logged in for say 100 hours or have read a certain number of threads before they are allowed to post. Maybe even pop-up messages with basic general information / warnings etc for them as well during the first month/s.
My worry is that it may eventually get so bad that the forum administrators will do something drastic that affects all users negatively.
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well if you are just talking about resolutions on here regarding smartphones well i suppose getting stable ICS is one, also i seriously cant wait to get a ASUS Transformer Prime and ill by pass on the Galaxy Nexus and Note both of which i don't believe are as good all round as the SGSII and wait for the SGSIII.
ALSO it would be good if noobs who post duplicate questions without using the search function first get an infraction, there needs to be a disclaimer of some sort when they register for the first time that they need to use the search function first and only if they cannot find the answer to their questions (which is all honesty is unlikely as pretty much everything has been covered on here) only then start a thread.
Finally - it would be good if some people didn't steal other peoples work and pass if off as their own, and remember people play nice as much as you can, all this bickering isn't productive for the forum.
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If anyone thinks its bad now...then just wait for next year. It will get much worse.
Very simple reason - just do the maths. Last year in Australia alone android had about 20% market share. This year it rose to 48% of all smartphones sold to be the number 1 operating system. All in just one year. I suspect the same pattern is happening worldwide.
So next year it will only increase. Therefore, more users = more xda members so hold on to your seats boys and girls.
And do you know what??? There is nothing you or I can do about it. Shame!
Maybe a silly suggestion and it may be hard to implemented, but xda should have a system where new members need to have been logged in for say 100 hours or have read a certain number of threads before they are allowed to post. Maybe even pop-up messages with basic general information / warnings etc for them as well during the first month/s.
My worry is that it may eventually get so bad that the forum administrators will do something drastic that affects all users negatively.
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Not silly at all my friend something needs to be done about the sheer amount of duplicate questions being asked time and time on here.

jonny68 said:
well if you are just talking about resolutions on here regarding smartphones well i suppose getting stable ICS is one, also i seriously cant wait to get a ASUS Transformer Prime and ill by pass on the Galaxy Nexus and Note both of which i don't believe are as good all round as the SGSII and wait for the SGSIII.
ALSO it would be good if noobs who post duplicate questions without using the search function first get an infraction, there needs to be a disclaimer of some sort when they register for the first time that they need to use the search function first and only if they cannot find the answer to their questions (which is all honesty is unlikely as pretty much everything has been covered on here) only then start a thread.
Finally - it would be good if some people didn't steal other peoples work and pass if off as their own, and remember people play nice as much as you can, all this bickering isn't productive for the forum.
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Not silly at all my friend something needs to be done about the sheer amount of duplicate questions being asked time and time on here.
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Wow this is actually being quite a constructive thread... USEFUL ideas instead of *****ing about it all.. but yes some kind of mechanism in place to stop dodgy post.. then at least Forum Admins can say "We told you so"... or indeed the easiest way... and i'm going to whisper this... charge people which could unfortunately be the negative effect that XDA could force on us all..
I know they have put the built in search functionality into the Topic creation field (which has saved me a few times!), but there could be a little bit more as mentioned above.
I re-iterate... we dont want to lose any more devs.. and its the stupid few that ruin it for everybody, i have referred to XDA for a few years now and have found it such a useful resource, a good place to share ideas, help each other out and for Devs/Themers to show off their wares...
LONG LIVE XDA!

nutmegy said:
Wow this is actually being quite a constructive thread... USEFUL ideas instead of *****ing about it all.. but yes some kind of mechanism in place to stop dodgy post.. then at least Forum Admins can say "We told you so"... or indeed the easiest way... and i'm going to whisper this... charge people which could unfortunately be the negative effect that XDA could force on us all..
I know they have put the built in search functionality into the Topic creation field (which has saved me a few times!), but there could be a little bit more as mentioned above.
I re-iterate... we dont want to lose any more devs.. and its the stupid few that ruin it for everybody, i have referred to XDA for a few years now and have found it such a useful resource, a good place to share ideas, help each other out and for Devs/Themers to show off their wares...
LONG LIVE XDA!
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read my signature... use that if you want on your first post