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I'm lovin it
impressions, videos, more pics?
come on you know the deal lol
Nice!!! How Did You Get It!!
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Nice!!! How Did You Get It!!
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Same post by a guy with a different user name on tmonews. Guy on there only has 1 post.
Not sure if it's the same person or if one of them (or maybe both) is lying.
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Same post by a guy with a different user name on tmonews. Guy on there only has 1 post.
Not sure if it's the same person or if one of them (or maybe both) is lying.
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Intriguing
The one on tmonews was also posted before this one.
I can't post links but if you go to
tmonews
forums
upcoming phones
The last two pages of Samsung Vibrant A Galaxy S Phone Coming July 15th
It's on both I think
Yea I see it and I believe they are the same person or this person stole the pic
It's all a tease until I get one of my own. I just talked to a clerk at a TMo store and she said they have the phones in store, but can't sell them till the 15th.
TEASE!!
samsung held training events for tmobile reps and gave them one to use on the sales floor.
Congrats!
Do you find the no notification LED an issue?
Thanks!
Yes, having no notification led or light SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Yes, having no notification led or light SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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hopefully someone can get the bottom buttons to light up as a notification
Ok guys yeah that was me posting on tmonews. I just put up my impressions of the phone so far and since I cant link I'll cut and paste here. No I'm not a Tmo store employee, I bought the phone from chinatown where they dont care about rules, just shady and greedy..Plus Im super impatient so I'm always down to get the phone early even if I go through those sorts of channels. Anyways, here is my impression so far:
Ok guys heres my 2 cents after having used the phone for 2 days now. As you know, I posted here and on XDA 2 days ago with a pic bragging that I got it early...I absolutely love it. The display is gorgeous, the phone is super fast with no lag experienced so far, the touchwiz UI is neat and other than the iphone style app drawer and notification bar you hardly notice it, and 16 geebees of internal memory means you can just download and add apps to your hearts desire without worrying about placing it on a sim card.
Im a first time Droid user, long time Blackberry guy, and for the past 2 months I've been debating between the Droid X and the Vibrant (in fact I'm first on the list at the local Best Buy for a DX but I obviously am not getting it anymore). I've done more research on these 2 phones than anyone can imagine. Im not really a super phone tech guy so I cant speak much to that, I'm more of a cool-gadgety feature, display, looks and feel kinda guy. I dont post anywhere really but I have followed this phone pretty much all over the web. So, I basically was deciding up to the last minute between the two but im impatient as hell so when i had the chance to get the Vibrant early I did. I do not regret my decision especially after now hearing that the DX cant be rooted.
My reasons for loving this phone: 1) Super Amoled...yeah baby, eye popping colors and unreal contrast ratio for super dark blacks...lives up to the name "vibrant" in that regard; 2) Ive been on a Tmo family plan and their service in LA is good and it would have cost me significantly more per month on Verizon; and 3) after having had the HD2 for 2 weeks and returning it (4.3), and having played extensively with my buddies Iphone4 (3.7), I have come to the conclusion that the Galaxy is the PERFECT size at 4.0. Large screen, yet pocket and hand friendly. (the thing that turned me off most about the DX was how it looked pressed up next to one's ear while talking....like a friggin Powermat lol!..
I havent played much with the camera or HD video recording nor have i tried the video out so dont ask, just lack of time.
I have some gripes so far: 1) I dont see an easy way to place the phone on vibrate mode. If i hit "silent" in the notification bar, it silences the phone, simple enough, hit it again, back to sound on...okay, but i want it to shake when its silent and to do this it seems you have to enter the Settings / Sounds and Display / check on vibrate....not user friendly, maybe there is an easier way i just dont know about or an app that will take care of it. Either way I think this is a touchwiz prob and not a 2.1 - Eclair prob. 2) When I am on a call that requires me to use the dial pad to enter digits, its annoying b/c the phone screen will go dark after only moments when you are on a call. To get the phone screen to show again (and hence the dial pad), you have press the lock/screen lock button on the right side and it isnt very responsive. After pressing a number to get to the next part of the menu, it goes dark again before I want it to, and the ordeal starts over....very annoying. This was when i used it in a phone/holder in my car. It seems that when you are carrying it around, seemingly tilting the axis makes the screen show again...Weird...sorry for my long winded explanation. Im typing this is a hurry, and i dont really care.
Avatar is cool but the characters look a lot more CG than they do in the theatre/blu ray where they look human. Transformers 1 and 2 i copied from the HD2 when i had it played beautifully. Compared to the movie playback with the HD2, the Galaxy was so much smoother. You could control the position of the movie along that little bar with much more precision and the load time was also noticeably faster.
Still getting used to having to "kill" off apps which is weird but the Task Killer "X" widget is a godsend. (im ocd so i gotta kill it all off if im not using it...hey its battery life right?)
Oh yeah, can anybody tell me why when Im seemingly doing nothing or just using 1 or 2 apps, the task killer when i go to kill apps shows that other apps i didnt even touch are running? Like slacker radio, etc...just random **** appears to be running sometimes. Like i wont be doing anything then Ill press the kill shortcut/widget thing and itll say 4 apps killed. Huh? i wasnt just using 4 apps....is this normal? Like background updates or something?
I've got mine already too, it is FAST, the GPS has no issues, locks faster then my G1, the bottom buttons seem to be the only touchy issue but I think Samsung did it on purpose so you don't keep accidently hitting the buttons and activating them.
Edit 30 dec 2010:
see my last post in page 4
GPS suc*s when tested in high roads density urban areas
Hi,
I see many debate here about Galaxy S issues, mainly lag and GPS.
I was scared when got one, but finally, becoming a fan boy too:
In answer to this topic:
DSF said:
1) Test Google search (press and hold option button in home). Press a leter, for eg N. Now you have to wait seconds. Just web, apps are in searchable items. Without web suggestions
2) Swype
3) Manage apps
4) List processes
5) Apps shortcut
6) TouchWiz app drawer
7) Browser (still on JP6 ATM)
And so many issues.
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So I tested in my SGS, recently bought (3 weeks):
GPS driving on road behaves like my Sirf III module (but under Navigon, google maps not tested)
Google search is fine (lag less than 1sec)
Swype: really smooth
Manage apps: small lag, max 1 sec or less
Apps shortcut: first time just 1-2 sec, than instant
App drawer is fine, lag is really minimal to abscent, far less than 1 sec when it is there
Browser: no issues
It came with JM7 bundled, never updated firmware as I don't see the need. Bought it in october, just after an out of stock long period
I'm really thinking there are some hardware issues solved recently. My SGS seems to behave like the one from "fanboy"
I'm not going to become a fanboy, just maybe helping with my case. If it is really hardware dependent issues, a mass RMA would help samsung to admit the problems (that they look like have solved in newer devices?). After all, Apple, with their small antenna bug was finally more fair than Samsung.
I really open this topic to give a positive feedback. I also wonder why I have a "perfect" SGS, while many have a bad one? If it is not hardware, what can it be?
Maybe people that get new units, bundled stock with a new firmware (mine was JM7), should give a feedback here.
If it is hardware, why not RMA and put pressure on Samsung
jonny_ftm said:
Hi,
I see many debate here about Galaxy S issues, mainly lag and GPS.
I was scared when got one, but finally, becoming a fan boy too:
In answer to this topic:
So I tested in my SGS, recently bought (3 weeks):
GPS driving on road behaves like my Sirf III module (but under Navigon, google maps not tested)
Google search is fine (lag less than 1sec)
Swype: really smooth
Manage apps: small lag, max 1 sec or less
Apps shortcut: first time just 1-2 sec, than instant
App drawer is fine, lag is really minimal to abscent, far less than 1 sec when it is there
Browser: no issues
It came with JM7 bundled, never updated firmware as I don't see the need. Bought it in october, just after an out of stock long period
I'm really thinking there are some hardware issues solved recently. My SGS seems to behave like the one from "fanboy"
I'm not going to become a fanboy, just maybe helping with my case. If it is really hardware dependent issues, a mass RMA would help samsung to admit the problems (that they look like have solved in newer devices?). After all, Apple, with their small antenna bug was finally more fair than Samsung.
I really open this topic to give a positive feedback. I also wonder why I have a "perfect" SGS, while many have a bad one? If it is not hardware, what can it be?
Maybe people that get new units, bundled stock with a new firmware (mine was JM7), should give a feedback here.
If it is hardware, why not RMA and put pressure on Samsung
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Many people still have release-day SGS's and they work just as good as yours; some people have the problem and some just do not. Was there a hardware update? We don't know and if there was, why would Samsung not announce something and try to put themselves in a terrible position?
We just don't know. I have a release-day SGS myself and the only problem I've had was the button's delaying (which is quite annoying) and "the Black Screen of Death" a few times (which was fixed by not putting on a hard-case from Bell).
hol17 said:
Many people still have release-day SGS's and they work just as good as yours; some people have the problem and some just do not. Was there a hardware update? We don't know and if there was, why would Samsung not announce something and try to put themselves in a terrible position?
We just don't know. I have a release-day SGS myself and the only problem I've had was the button's delaying (which is quite annoying) and "the Black Screen of Death" a few times (which was fixed by not putting on a hard-case from Bell).
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Hi. Just a couple of questions for you if you dont mind.
1.) When you say "Black Screen of Death, do you mean the weird Coma/Crash syndrome? Mine from Bell as well just started doing this about 60 days into owning it and it has happened a total of 3 times in the last 5 days or so.
2.) What do you mean it was SOLVED by not putting on a Hard Case from Bell? I have one from Bell (looks like leather on the back) and you now have me wondering. I have had the case almost since day one though and my phone just started the Coma/Crash as mentioned above about 60 days after owning it. Please advise...
3.) A bit off topic but I see you are rooted on JH2. Can you please tell me how you rooted the device? I have tried the update.zip files I have found before but none of them ever work for me. Do you need to be sim unlocked for the root to work? Please advise...
Thank You...
@yiannisthegreek
1.) When you say "Black Screen of Death, do you mean the weird Coma/Crash syndrome? Mine from Bell as well just started doing this about 60 days into owning it and it has happened a total of 3 times in the last 5 days or so.
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Yes; try to wake the phone and I just can not, no matter what I do and thats when...
SEGWAY
2.) What do you mean it was SOLVED by not putting on a Hard Case from Bell? I have one from Bell (looks like leather on the back) and you now have me wondering. I have had the case almost since day one though and my phone just started the Coma/Crash as mentioned above about 60 days after owning it. Please advise...
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I'll break it down for you; my problem with the BSOD started to happen after I attached my cases I bought from Bell (the semi-clear hard grey case and the fake crocodile skin case). The cases felt VERY snug to my phone, almost 'death-gripped' (which meant the cases were difficult to take off, almost 'ripping-the-backplate-off' difficult) and I could feel heat through the case. After taking them off, I have never had the BSOD since, although my phone feels a bit naked. I had also UNROOTED my phone but the BSOD happened a few days later (with the case on).
3.) A bit off topic but I see you are rooted on JH2. Can you please tell me how you rooted the device? I have tried the update.zip files I have found before but none of them ever work for me. Do you need to be sim unlocked for the root to work? Please advise...
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This is the post where I got my update.zip:
Code:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7536130&postcount=11
The steps were guide-lined here:
Originally Posted by AllGamer
Step 1. root your phone
Bell's I9000M is slightly different than the regular I9000
most of the root methods mentioned on other topics will not work.
Even the 3 button recovery mode has been disabled
After some experimentation this is the working method
download the update.zip from this topic (Thanks to jentech)
http://ip208-100-42-21.static.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7536130&postcount=11
then you need to run adb devices to make sure your phone is listed
(ADB is part of Android SDK, download it from the source http://developer.android.com/sdk/index.html )
if you get something like
Code:
adb.exe devices
List of devices attached
900098c722a9 device
(if you run adb.exe devices and comes back with an empty list, then make sure you have set the phone into debugging mode Application > Settings > Development > USB Debugging)
then you are can execute
adb.exe reboot recovery
this will take you to the recovery screen
now if your device works with the Power + Volume Up + Home button, then you can skip that, however in my case the 3 button mode didn't work
select the update.zip with the volumen up down button, then hit home screen, it should say installing in yellow, then you are done, it reboots back to normal, and now you can install Busy Box
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Hope that helps
I got mine also after the "outstock" period.
Got 2, first one had weird issue, rebooted for no reason and, in the end, USb would work and, everytime I pluged it in (PC or recharge) it would reboot in a loop :S
All of this in the first week
Got it exchange and since then, no reboot, no connection issue, no "lag" and GPS is more than decent (I use it to track jogging and it's right on the spot)
Manif. date of this one is 10.09.21 (specific date on the battery, on the device itself it's 10.09, no day)
I do wonder the same thing as you do, might be a good idea to note the manif. date and if user has issue or not...It might give help to some of us with unreliable SGS get it exchanged!
If the manufacturing date gives different hardware, I would definitely send it back again to get a latest one. My replacement didn't solve the GPS issue...will talk to orange uk again tomorrow...
I agree with thread creator. My SGS works fine right at the beginning (except the lag). I see a date on the battery which is 2010.08.03.
I also think it may be hardware-related issues.
Car navigation software such as Navigon accepts an enormous range of errors though. But the errors are exposed when using GPS for fitness purposes (because if the tracks swing wildly side to side then you do the 10km jog in 7km).
I think it might be hardware these days, but waiting for froyo official to see. After that I'll return my phone as many times as necessary
apart from the gps inaccuracy, there's nothing to complain about! the sgs is simply brilliant however, i'd be happy if they put in more ram on the device :|
the gps update frequency is bad, and sometimes is terribly inaccurate
Has anyone tested, one of these phones, with a bluetooth sirf 3 gps?
I would assume, to a certain extent, that it would help prove, if it is a hardware fault or not.
Are there other factors involved, however?
@jonny_ftm just try a Froyo build. I was pretty happy with Eclair in terms of performance (of course some issues where there too, but not that many).. but froyo has some nice additions (eg: input cursor, copy text from browser, flash support, etc) but it sucks in terms of performance. Even the latest builds (JPO, JPA) seems to suck as some realistic people report.
I have ~ 150 apps in app drawer
I will check the date of manufacture of my phone later and report back.
It could be a good idea to start with this to see if there's really a trend to better hardware with later manufacturing dates.
Sadely, it is not that simple. If in mobile phone industry it works just like in PC electronics, even manufacture date of phone won't help. I explain: intel chipsets on motherboards were often "buggy" in some extent on first production. Later, they enhance the product and produce new build versions of chipset correcting hardware issues. Now, it's upon to motherboard manufacture to use the last chipset build or not. Most time, motherboard manufacture will use old chipset stocks before moving to new one.
So, if we want to know this for sure, only SN and build dates on chipsets inside the phone will be the ultimate proof. Sadely, unlike in PC world, less people open their phones to check components unless they break the screen...
Anyhow, phone manufacturing date can help as early dates would have necessarly early components. Later built phones could or not have the last chipset though.
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@jonny_ftm just try a Froyo build. I was pretty happy with Eclair in terms of performance (of course some issues where there too, but not that many).. but froyo has some nice additions (eg: input cursor, copy text from browser, flash support, etc) but it sucks in terms of performance. Even the latest builds (JPO, JPA) seems to suck as some realistic people report.
I have ~ 150 apps in app drawer
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- I won't try Froyo. Until it is final, we can't say Samsung s**ks, it is just beta testing. My phone works great with original JM7 it came with, I don't need Beta Froyo features if they make the phone unusable. Now, I understand people that need these features getting frustrated. Hopefully, it is not my case, so can't help here
- I only have around 30 applications, I think I won't have more than 50-60 include stock apps. Even a PC with quadcore CPU, 16 Gigs of extreme fast RAM, RAID setup and tons of applications/processes installed will slow down. I don't expect a tiny smartphone to do a better job there. The only OS that was rock stable despite tons of applications is Palm OS, now dead :-(
Mine had 16 6 10 on the battery and I experience the gps issue.
Sent from my GT-I9000 using XDA App
Latest phone aren't struggling with lag out of the box anymore.
householddog said:
Has anyone tested, one of these phones, with a bluetooth sirf 3 gps?
I would assume, to a certain extent, that it would help prove, if it is a hardware fault or not.
Are there other factors involved, however?
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I tried using my external holux bt gps (which really kicks ass)....but to my surprise i figured android doesn't support external bt gps devices natively! so, google maps or navigation does not bother picking up gps info from the external device. android still has no support....bottom line so we're pretty much stuck with what our sgs can do! sucks i know!
Actually, from what I was led to beleive from the test in the accesories, BT GPS seems to work with everything:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=818688&highlight=GPS
See post #10
nope....even in post#10 he mentions that "in theory"! it just wouldnt work and i did a serious amount of research only to realize android doesnt support external bt based gps devices. however, i havent tried in froyo....will do it tomorrow and post if i have any luck!
All working fine here - manufacturing date 25/08/2010
Very interesting, the date manufacture theory I stated seems not that wrong from the few feedback in this thread. If we have more feedback, it will become evident, for those doubting it, that Samsung is just making fun of his customers. They don't intend to admit any defect and won't recall phones unless forced by a massive customers action.
I'm happy I got mine only in October. When I receive my microSD card, I'll open it and add my contribution with manufacturing date for my working out of the box phone.
All this means it is very bad news for people with very laggy, battery consuming and bad GPS phones
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nope....even in post#10 he mentions that "in theory"! it just wouldnt work and i did a serious amount of research only to realize android doesnt support external bt based gps devices. however, i havent tried in froyo....will do it tomorrow and post if i have any luck!
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Just install Bluetooth GPS Provider. It's simple.
To all in this forum. So many have had complaints about so many things to put that statement in perspective Here is a brief list:
Graying pixels (triangles)
Black not true
Color wash out
Color Rendering issues
Emmc Bug
S-Pen Issues
Tablet Mode jacked
Battery Drain Issues
These are the common ones, but you get the idea. What we as moderators really Hate is ALL THE COMPLAINING you throw at the following people......ChainFire, SuperCurio, Flappjaxx, Dagr8, M3dd0g, Sixstringsg, Dr Ketan, NeoBuddy, CM Team, AokpTeam, Gerret, xplodwild, Eybee1970....any all the others I cannot think of right now...(let me know who I missed and Ill add)
The majority of these issues are SAMSUNG hardware issues, a few are not. Stop Telling the Devs about these issues TELL SAMSUNG.......complain to them...and here's how...
The Idea:
I am going to try this and hopefully get everyone's support and contributions. What I am proposing is to post the Samsung issues here in a post and a brief description of what it is and what it is not doing.
Then, I will merge the real Samsung related issues into the 1st and 2nd post so they are itemized clearly. After a few days....
THIS IS THE IMPORTANT PART.... I then want all of you in this forum to Tweet the link to this thread to @Samsungmobile..... stating fix these issues Now, or we look to buy something else than Samsung.....
This works, my friend S15274N started #neveragain Samsung when they did not provide timely updates (2.1 to 2.2)... we got their ear. Samsung does not bad press on this Unit especially because they are going to release TMO version on 7-11-12....... So let's kick'em now and get some of their engineers to help us instead of beating on our dev's.
To Recap:
1. Post what you believe to be Samsung hardware/software issues
2. We will merge these into a cohesive/concise list
3. We barrage them with complaint tweets with the link to this thread.
Here is the link to this Thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=27812352#post27812352
Let's do this it's worth a try and we can direct our frustration towards the correct culprits Samsung.
Thanks, Oka1
The List
Known Bugs/Problems
1. Emmc Bug
2. Color Rendering issues
..........A-Banding in Video recording/playback
..........B-Black clipping in videos
..........C-
3. Post Source code for ICS when you release ICS.
4. Provide a "Known and Resolved" bug list that you are presently aware of
5. Battery overheating
6. Hang and FC on Low DPI settings
7. MMS would not send/receive if Data Packet is not enabled. Previously in GB (Galaxy Note only) it was able to do so. I really hope that Samsung fix this issue for all its Android phones.
8. Samsung changed between GB and ICS raised kernel resume time from 650ms to 1000ms - just for the kernel to resume
Desired List:
1. Touch screen adjustment
2. Improve camera software too much banding in lowlight
for now, emmc bug must be the TOP PRIORITY..
all the other issues won't make your phone unusable and cost you motherboard replacement..
+1
Awesome a n7000 user union.
UNITE!
Missing traceability with partial wakelocks and what's really draining your battery. Statistics in native app are tainted/incomplete plus offer no real value in analyzing. Its like a Dilbert comic dashboard, useless.
Varying screen quality, maybe due to drivers : the banding issues with movies
Slow update speed. Samsung kept delaying ICS
ICS not as intended implemented, slow, battery inefficient and has lags.
No low dpi support on native launchers
Low Volume issues on speaker and ringer
Missing exchange contact search functionality
Missing control for apps permissions, like pdroid and lbe
Missing firewall
Missing touchscreen sensitivity setting
Crap update policy. Just make one good rom and not 50+ crap ones per region, per carrier. This will increase update speed, quality too
Missing wipe dalvik cache option
Sent from my GT-N7000 using Tapatalk 2
The whole idea of choosing Android (in particular Galaxy Series) over iPhone was the ability and ease of flashing firmwares and exploring new horizons. However the EMMC bug is limiting this very activity. Moreover we paid for the premium devices such as Note and millions of these have be sold all over. The EMMC fix should certainly be on TOP most priority. Hope Samsung will be considerate enough to consider this request. Else we all will be forced to re-evaluate our faith in SAMSUNG.
PS:
It hurts to know that google was aware of EMMC issues since 2008 and still SAMSUNG planned to go ahead with faulty chip. Surely Samsung does owe an explanation in-case they fail to find a fix in time!!!
I am in...the Hard brick bug is my priority for now....
LET'S MAKE SOME NOISE...
send this thread to samsung
we have to do something now, enough is enough.
1. Color Rendering, black greying out, black clippings..its been months and nothing done about it.
2. Battery Drain for what?!
It was marketed for its screen and HD experience..and the users are not experiencing that because of the above crap!
3. AND Yeah!! Do us a favor and release updates that are the same and that do not literally vary from one another! QUALITY CHECK!!!
YOU HEAR US SAMSUNG!!!
black clipping issue should be related to the firmware, samsung should release a hotfix for it asap.
http://innovator.samsungmobile.com/bbs/discussion/view.do?boardId=1132&boardName=AndroidBoard&messageId=155754&messageNumber=&messageCategoryId=4&startId=zzzzz~&startPage=1&curPage=1&rowsPerPage=10&searchType=TITLE&searchText=&searchDays=0&searchTitleFlag=false&searchContentsFlag=false&searchRegisterNicknameFlag=false&lastPageFlag=&categoryId=800&parentCategoryId=4&platformId=1&selectOrder=REGISTER_DATE&selectOrderDirection=DESC&searchParameters=%2Fbbs%2Fdiscussion%2Fthread.list.do%3FlistLines%3D10|searchType%3Dtitle|curPage%3D2|selectOrder%3DREGISTER_DATE|selectOrderDirection%3DDESC|messageCategoryId%3D4|&nacode=&listLines=10&searchTextForm=&searchTypeForm=TITLE
Please add to your list the Deep Sleep Problem.
My Note breaks deep sleep pretty much at will. That MUST get fixed.
Thank you for your initiative. It empowers all of us.
The biggest issue I have right now with the phone is the EMMC bug. This needs fixing ASAP.
The was my first Samsung and at the rate Samsung are going, then it's going to be my last !
Black clipping in videos is the biggest issue for me, having to use a app to adjust the contrast thus losing true blacks is not good.
I also believe there is an issue with how flash player works in stock ICS ROMs, Very jerky performance in browser, I don't think it is 100% Adobes fault as I have friends with other devices (Eg HTC Sensation) running ICS 4.0.3 stock ROMs and their playback is silky smooth.
Sent by Galaxy Note
Hallelujah. The best thread I've seen yet and here is my list:
Post ICS upgrade
1. Phone would randomly re-boot.
2. phone would lock up and not respond. Battery removal necessary to re-boot.#
3. eMMc Identified as being faulty.
4. Video recording would stutter at the beginning of each clip.
5. Video playback would frequently fail.
6. Pink Dot on Camera. YES IT IS A BLOODY FAULT. AND YES I DO KNOW HOW TO OPERATE A CAMERA.
7. Google Maps with Navigation would hang and screen would freeze and flicker.
8. Other Apps from Google Play store, certified as compatible with the GSN would hang, freeze, or otherwise cause re-boot.
9. Phone would sometimes get hot, very hot.
10. degraded sound quality, both recorded and playback.
I called Samsung and was not in the slightest bit re-assured by what the agent told me. They sent a plastic pouch with a tiny square of bubble wrap to send it to a service centre. That is not my idea of suitable packaging to protect MY device, and no, I'm not going to patch up their own shoddy performance with my own materials. I have sent my Galaxy Note back to the retailer for a full refund as it is now no longer fit for the purpose.
I would recommend anyone that has a defective device, is to follow the instruction manual to the letter. Make sure your apps are compliant fro the Goggle Play store. If after that, it is still defective, send it back to the point of sale for a full refund, do not accept a replacement, do not accept anything other than your money back. I know this is a PITA BUT, unless Samsung get hurt in the pocket and some truthfulness in the headlines in the press and on the Internet, nothing will get done. Yes I know living without a phone can be a pain, but we ca all live without the 'Note for a while. Do what I have done, get a crappy clam phone from Tesco for a tenner, it gets me by.
You might ask why I'm so militant, well its for two reasons. 1. It's in my genes. 2. I paid top dollar for a flagship product that is not fit for the purpose.
As the OP said, don't hit the Devs. They didn't write the crappy code that doesn't work, they don't work for Samsung either. They didn't instigate the crappy quality control that seems apparent in Samsungs factories, and that of their suppliers. What they do is write apps for you and me, they write code to 'try' and give you an alternative android experience, they try to fix what Samsung should be fixing. They do this all for free. I like free, and I like the Devs. Samsung should stop paying its own coders, and give all that money to xda developers. Maybe then we would have a quality product.
Things you can do to help. Appart from sending your device back to your retailer for your money back (some cant do this I know, but those that can, do it). Tweet epic fail on twitter, do the same on face book and every other social networking site you have. make sure its addressed and or seen by Samsung. It will hurt, particularly when google starts to pick it up in the search engine.
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oka1, you have a private message.
also, add to my list above: touch screen sensitivity erratic.
thanks
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1. Phone would randomly re-boot.
2. phone would lock up and not respond. Battery removal necessary to re-boot.#
3. eMMc Identified as being faulty.
4. Video recording would stutter at the beginning of each clip.
5. Video playback would frequently fail.
6. Pink Dot on Camera. YES IT IS A BLOODY FAULT. AND YES I DO KNOW HOW TO OPERATE A CAMERA.
7. Google Maps with Navigation would hang and screen would freeze and flicker.
8. Other Apps from Google Play store, certified as compatible with the GSN would hang, freeze, or otherwise cause re-boot.
9. Phone would sometimes get hot, very hot.
10. degraded sound quality, both recorded and playback.
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Strange, but I don't have any of this points on my ICS rom...
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Strange, but I don't have any of this points on my ICS rom...
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Not really. Its all down to quality control, programming and who made the device components. You will see lots of satisfied guys with fully functioning devices, BUT, there are an awful lot like me in the same boat. BTW I don't root or use anything not served up by Samsung, that way I protect my warranty and leaves no room for manoeuvre for the retailer or Samsung.
Top of my list is:
1 Black clipping in videos
Its just NOT acceptable that a phone in this price range and with this specs. cannot play (random) video without this terrible artifacts.
It doesnt deliver what is promised. (in the commercials )
Even my 3 jear old HTC plays video a lot better.
If its not fixed in the near future i think i will go for a refund because i really feel cheated by samsung because of this problem and their way of (not) supporting it.
2 EMMC bug.
3 the overall way that samsung deals with this bugs and the people/customers who report them.
Please step up samsung!
i can wait for a stable ics.
BUT BLACK CLIPPING come on samsung... please fix it...its damn ugly...people look at this phone as if its some heavenly artifact..thank God i dont let em watch dark videos, they will just scoff at me saying ' 30,000 bucks for this?'..i'm sorta asking myself that question now...it's advertised as if it has the best screen on the market and yet it shows greys so badly and pictures taken in the dark are so ugly with purple blotches..premium smartphone? dont think so!!
Priority by number:
1- eMMC bug, known for a long time and can be solutioned if samsung wants to....
2- Black clipping, can get rid of it by not seeing vids or black images.......
3- Battery drain, it's impossible to have to walk with a charger in our pockets with average use. If you use data transfer all day you can't use it for a day (10H)
4- Updates from samsung are a joke, touchwizz may be a great launcher but not with ICS. Tanks for those who developed others..
5- Total lack of interest by samsung: 7 million sold with about 70% of those with a high possibilty to be returned and get a new MB?? That's a risk !!!!! No solution, no excuse, no explanation, nothing from samsung.......
Oh well i really like my note, bought it for a reason and it does what i want but there are too many bugs/problems with it to be a fully functional device. What does samsung about it??? Release SGSIII.......... yeah right nice solution.
Had a samsung before and gave me a lot of problems, i know i shouldn't have gone back but..........let's try to solve this.
becosemsaida
add Entropy to the list of people who gets a lot of complains from users..
anyway, i suggest that the emmc or wiping bug should be put as the top priority so that when samsung or anyone from their team visits the thread, the first thing they will notice is the said bug... a bold/red text maybe? and put some sticky magic to this thread?
i don't know if its just me but i only care about the bug that kills our devices.. i can live with the other issues...
im going to tweet this thread everyday.... hoping for fast actions from samsung... its the first time i got so disappointed with sammy..
here is a shortened url for tweeting http://goo.gl/I3q7q
Went to play with an N3 today, noticed that the handwritng option in keyboard let me write, but no text. There also were no "handwriting" avail in the settings, just the detection. This was systemwide.
I also noticed S-note no longer has the direct handwriting-to-text option. I mean it never really worked well because of paragraph spacing etc., but was nice to label charts anddiagrams with.
But the reapperance of the handwriting -to-text lasso from the old S-Memo is better than ever! Though the OCR search was pretty damn good so may just leave notes like that!
Screen still a bit to small to take real notes, but I know when I replace old 10.1 with 2014 version( hopefully 12.2! Or ATIV Q) it will be a much better experience. Just hope Samsung brings features to N8.0, as it is my other "portable"(fits in slacks, jean back pocet or suit pocket). I domt see why tey wouldnt, help sell more N8s! Though see some delay to push people up to higher margin N10.1 or down to even higer margin N3, though N8 does not really over lap tose universes.
So can anyone comment on this issue I experienced?
P.S. I hada store wth N3 on Friday!, but ATT messed with my early upgrade, so can only do with retention. Was gonna add a line then return when got upgrade, but hate reconfiguring phones...though now I will be playing with it at work. May switch to TMo as I couldnt preorder thru retention, so will get order place with 7am callback...surprised wontbe in stores till the 3rd, tmo 2nd so lets see! (Did get 120$ off mh bill for mh "troubles")
change your device date to a previous date and it seems to fix the issue.
nymviper1126 said:
Went to play with an N3 today, noticed that the handwritng option in keyboard let me write, but no text. There also were no "handwriting" avail in the settings, just the detection. This was systemwide.
I also noticed S-note no longer has the direct handwriting-to-text option. I mean it never really worked well because of paragraph spacing etc., but was nice to label charts anddiagrams with.
But the reapperance of the handwriting -to-text lasso from the old S-Memo is better than ever! Though the OCR search was pretty damn good so may just leave notes like that!
Screen still a bit to small to take real notes, but I know when I replace old 10.1 with 2014 version( hopefully 12.2! Or ATIV Q) it will be a much better experience. Just hope Samsung brings features to N8.0, as it is my other "portable"(fits in slacks, jean back pocet or suit pocket). I domt see why tey wouldnt, help sell more N8s! Though see some delay to push people up to higher margin N10.1 or down to even higer margin N3, though N8 does not really over lap tose universes.
So can anyone comment on this issue I experienced?
P.S. I hada store wth N3 on Friday!, but ATT messed with my early upgrade, so can only do with retention. Was gonna add a line then return when got upgrade, but hate reconfiguring phones...though now I will be playing with it at work. May switch to TMo as I couldnt preorder thru retention, so will get order place with 7am callback...surprised wontbe in stores till the 3rd, tmo 2nd so lets see! (Did get 120$ off mh bill for mh "troubles")
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its a bug and i believe samsung will fix it soon
Been fixed today via a OTA update from the play store, fixed the keyboard, but as strange as it sounds my wifi and mobile signal has improved, could they have slipped some extra code in?
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PaulGG said:
Been fixed today via a OTA update from the play store, fixed the keyboard, but as strange as it sounds my wifi and mobile signal has improved, could they have slipped some extra code in?
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Yup. Mine got fixed by the OTA too. I have to agree on the wifi signal. Not sure about the mobile signal though.. :laugh:
I find the new handwriting to text software on the Note 3 is too slow in terms of recognition time. I much prefer the Note 2 interface, in which it was also possible to change ink colour and pen thickness etc. Or am I missing some settings somewhere?
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Hi,
After owning a kindle touch and loving it I needed a second reader so I ordered a new Nook simple touch glowlight (the older one with the sd card).
I just finished charging it up and was amazed to see that sometimes the bottom of the screen shows faded text (see images attached).
I know that in the kindle you can force an e-ink refresh on each page load but I didn't see that on the nook.
Is that a defect or is that normal? anyway to stop it from happening?
Thanks!!
This seems to be quite normal in all NSTwGs I have seen. There is no way to set full refresh rate in original firmware unfortunately. To change that setting you have to root your device. (NookManager is the way to go: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2040351 ). It is a simple process and takes about 15 minutes (rarely up to 45min if you have a lot of books on internal memory). You will then be able to set screen refreshing mode and full refresh rate as you wish. And by the way you will be able to install apps reading many more than stock formats, including .mobi (AlReader, FBreader).
Thanks!
I will surely get it rooted asap then.
BTW - given an option to send it back for a replacement - should I do that or is this not a "defect" per say and simply a software glitch?
As far as I know (or, as I understand the bits of knowledge I managed to gather) it is combination of software and hardware issues (or should I say "reasons"?).
1. Software part is that lack of access to the full refresh rate setting in OF.
2. Hardware part is a tiny potentiometer hidden on the eink assembly. Different batches of those panels have their own best working voltage. Is seems to be responsible for the contrast and ghosting of each panel.
3. The last part kind of mixing both of the above is a waveform driver encoded on eeprom chip on the ribbon cable on each eink panel. It is responsible for correct display of all shades of gray. Strangely it is said to affect pictures mainly. (look here: http://www.mobileread.com/forums/showthread.php?t=218927 ). This one may be not present in NSTG. I don't remember now and I am not in the environment I would like to take my Nook apart in to check it.
What I am trying to say is - I saw that there are differences between units of NSTG in terms of ghosting intensity, and contrast ("whiteness" of the paper I call it). And I suspect that the source of those differences is in not the highest possible quality control in terms of fine tuning each device. Second thought is that somehow each batch of the screens have noticeably different peak performance possible to achieve even with most precise tuning.
Answering your question: you may or may not end up with a better unit than the one you have now. Next one may have slightly less noticeable ghosting, but have lower contrast. Or you may be given a better one unit in every aspect? It seems to be a pure lottery if you can't choose from whole bunch of them tested live in your hands.
But... maybe there is someone with better, precise and more dependable knowledge than my non-engineer suspicions and fantasies.
I think that I would send it back.
I think it's an imposition to use full refresh all the time.
The stock reader had a setting for refresh rate in the shared preferences (the file, not the GUI).
I think that later versions didn't.
My reader app has a setting for refresh, I keep it on Never.
Renate NST said:
I think that I would send it back.
I think it's an imposition to use full refresh all the time.
The stock reader had a setting for refresh rate in the shared preferences (the file, not the GUI).
I think that later versions didn't.
My reader app has a setting for refresh, I keep it on Never.
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On the topic of your reader app, I've noticed that the screen refresh setting only works in .epubs, not in .pdfs. What's up with that?
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thenookieforlife3 said:
On the topic of your reader app, I've noticed that the screen refresh setting only works in .epubs, not in .pdfs.
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It works fine on mine.
Are you sure that PDFs are opening in my reader app?
giliav said:
Is that a defect or is that normal? anyway to stop it from happening?
Thanks!!
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For me it seems defective, at least I've never seen this happening on my NSTwGL... There are some ghosting now and then, but not half missing characters.
Just remember, you can only exchange it for a new one or a refund within 14 days with B&N, after that it's a warranty replacement that's certified pre owned.
OB
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Is B&N even taking returns anymore? I thought they "broke up" with Nook.
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Is B&N even taking returns anymore? I thought they "broke up" with Nook.
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They definitely are, my warranty was up a couple of weeks ago, told them that the battery wasn't holding a charge, sent a certified pre owned that had a small scratch on the screen, sent another pre owned that refused to recognize my SD card, just received a brand new retail in the sealed box. And to top it off the original support rep told me to include my charger which I purchased separately , all of the replacement devices didn't include it so they just shipped me a new retail power kit with the charger and cable. Definitely can't fault B&N customer service! Quality control on the other hand.
OB
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thenookieforlife3 said:
Wow, touché then, my friend! Lucky you!
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Persistence pays off, just took a bit of phone time to find the right person to get things done. As a humorous aside, I inadvertently dialed 1-800 The Nook, instead of The Book, let's just say that it's adult oriented and has absolutely nothing to do with :B&N!
OB
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