Hey guys sorry if this question has been answered but is there anyway to get the webtop to work without tethering? Thanks a lot guys.
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Read the damn sticked noob guide. There's a link to webtip hack :/
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Read the damn sticked noob guide. There's a link to webtip hack :/
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You need an att tethering plan to use webtop.... I don't know what you are talking about. There is a reason why xda is becoming more and more irrelevant as time goes on and developers are choosing a different website. It's people like you guys who just need to one up other posters who are causing this. There are some great people on here, then there are you guys. That's the reason why the rootzwiki is becoming the new standard. Oh and I should sell my atrix cause I asked a question about webtop? That clearly means I have no idea what I'm doing right? That's a joke but thanks for the suggestion
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I have read that webtop should work when you are on wifi, but that's just what I've heard since I don't use it. If you're trying to use it while on AT&T's data network then, yes, you need tethering but there are tethering and webtop hacks galore in the "noob" thread that is stickied at the top of the "General" forum.
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You need an att tethering plan to use webtop.... I don't know what you are talking about. There is a reason why xda is becoming more and more irrelevant as time goes on and developers are choosing a different website. It's people like you guys who just need to one up other posters who are causing this. There are some great people on here, then there are you guys. That's the reason why the rootzwiki is becoming the new standard. Oh and I should sell my atrix cause I asked a question about webtop? That clearly means I have no idea what I'm doing right? That's a joke but thanks for the suggestion
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Also, try not to take anything personally. This is an internet forum, just let it roll off your back.
Just looked over the sticky and it has a link to a cwm installable webtop file that I already have. Nothing about disabling att from verifying the tethering plan required to use the webtop on 3G. Webtop works fine on wifi... And before gingerbread, there used to be a way to get it to work without a tethering plan. That is why I asked this "n00b" question that nobody seems to have an answer for.
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Have you tried the "Entitlement" mod (enabling tethering)? It should be the one right above or below the Webtop link.
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Just looked over the sticky and it has a link to a cwm installable webtop file that I already have. Nothing about disabling att from verifying the tethering plan required to use the webtop on 3G.
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No I haven't I will take a look. Thank you for actually trying to be helpful.
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No problem, hope you find something that works. Like I've said, I don't use it so I don't know what would actually work.
Also, like I've said, you can't take things personally on the internet, but if I can give some advice. Try to be more descriptive in your comments especially when starting an entire thread. Include things like what "mods" you have already used, and maybe include what ROM you're using and what resources you have already searched through for answers, you could even go as far as describing the steps you are using when encountering the issue. All of this helps the rest of us help you. Your original post "looks" like a "noob" question and that's like blood in the water for the sharks.
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No I haven't I will take a look. Thank you for actually trying to be helpful.
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OP asked a valid question and didn't deserve to be noob-bashed. I have the same issue. I have done the "entitlement" hack using the SQLLite Editor to set the "Entitlement Check" field to "0", and I am able to use my Atrix as a mobile hotspot without a tethering plan.
However, when I attempt to use Firefox on the Lapdock while connected via 3G (WiFi off), a popup appears saying "Verifying AT&T account status for webtop...". Then, after a few seconds, it fails and another dialog pops up saying "The Firefox browser requires a Wi-Fi connection or appropriate data plan. Please use Wi-Fi or call AT&T Customer Service at 1-800-331-0500 to add the appropriate data plan to your account"
Any help would be appreciated.
Try this and see if it works. Make sure you have done the entitlement hack and while connected to the webtop turn on the mobile hotspot on your phone and then go into your networks and choose the tether apn.
I tried something in that nature and was browsing firefox on my phones data. I'll try again in the morning and see if that's what I did.
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Question.
Is it considered tethering if instead of using the full browser firefox, that requires a tethering plan, to instead use a browser (such as Dolphin HD) INSIDE of the phone module app on the webtop... since it's actually using your phone's apps instead of firefox?
just a thought.
dmbrown81 said:
Try this and see if it works. Make sure you have done the entitlement hack and while connected to the webtop turn on the mobile hotspot on your phone and then go into your networks and choose the tether apn.
I tried something in that nature and was browsing firefox on my phones data. I'll try again in the morning and see if that's what I did.
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Thanks dmbrown81, that totally worked! I still get the nagging messages from the Webtop about needing a tethering plan, but if I just turn on WiFi Tethering while the phone is docked, Firefox will work fine! Brilliant!
davemao said:
Thanks dmbrown81, that totally worked! I still get the nagging messages from the Webtop about needing a tethering plan, but if I just turn on WiFi Tethering while the phone is docked, Firefox will work fine! Brilliant!
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You might try turning off the "Mot mobile device extensions" addon and see what happens.
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Question.
Is it considered tethering if instead of using the full browser firefox, that requires a tethering plan, to instead use a browser (such as Dolphin HD) INSIDE of the phone module app on the webtop... since it's actually using your phone's apps instead of firefox?
just a thought.
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Obviously that would never be detected, but ATT does consider it tethering. Total BS if you ask me, all the doc is is an external screen/keyboard/pad/battery, it is in no way a seperate system.
The odd thing is that while using a StarHub prepaid sim in Singapore on my unlocked ATT Atrix it doesn't do that check, only when I use my ATT sim.
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Thanks that solution works
Thanks everyone for suggesting the "hotspot" trip. I am curious as to why this needs to be done is we are using the entitlement hack. Does anyone know why this is or is the just the way to get around having to pay twice for data? Also, have you guys noticed a big hit in your battery life when using the hotspot tethering? I'm just happy that this solution works because I got the lapdock just for this reason.
There is something in the ATT firmware that recognizes when the phone is using an ATT sim and disables data connections to the webtop environment. The whole time I was in Singapore using a StarHub Green prepaid sim my phone never did that "Verifying account blablablah..." when I docked the phone in my LapDock, as soon as I docked it I could start using Firefox.
An interesting note: the phone disables all data connections for a moment when it does this check. I noticed it because Pandora died on me one day when I was listening and I docked my phone. I watched the connectivity arrows on the H+ icon the next time I docked my phone and they went away for a few seconds just as that toaster notification popped up. Even with the Entitlement Mod this happens.
Hotspot tethering will kill your battery life, although that battery life is augmented by the lapdock. I'm pretty sure you can turn tethering off once you've started up Firefox and are browsing away. Don't ask me how I know, a little bird told me.
No, using apps inside the phone view isn't considered tethering. You can use the stock browser inside there without doing anything. If att calls using a non-stock browser tethering, pitch a fit and tell them to piss up a rope.
And regarding my snark earlier: I think a lot of the people who have been here for a while get tired of seeing threads like "Can I haz root on my phone OMG I'm a noob" when we remember discussing the same subject multiple times in the past. I know this particular question has been asked and answered before. I found it ironic that you were being chided by someone who had < 10 posts.
tl;dr - non-ATT sims work without mods, ATT sim data connection gets disabled, this has been covered.
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Is there some way to "trick" skype into running over wifi instead of just 3g? It's annoying to have to turn off wifi and kill more battery when I have a perfectly good internet connection nearby. I remember there being tweaks like this available for the iphone and wondered if there's something similar available or in the works.
**Note: I wasn't sure whether to put this in the apps/themes section or development since it can fit in either, so I apologize in advance if there's any issue with this thread location
It should just work over wifi if you turn 3G off. Not sure what you mean about turning wifi off to use it on wifi?
Also, this would belong in general i don't know how this would relate to development at all...
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It should just work over wifi if you turn 3G off. Not sure what you mean about turning wifi off to use it on wifi?
Also, this would belong in general i don't know how this would relate to development at all...
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Haven't used the official Skype app lately, have ya.
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It should just work over wifi if you turn 3G off. Not sure what you mean about turning wifi off to use it on wifi?
Also, this would belong in general i don't know how this would relate to development at all...
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If you had an Incredible on Verizon you'd know that they restrict Skype usage to their data network, and that when opening it you must first disable wifi. And it can relate to development because there might need to be a workaround that needs to be "developed", which should be easier with root access I'd imagine.
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If you had an Incredible on Verizon you'd know that they restrict Skype usage to their data network, and that when opening it you must first disable wifi. And it can relate to development because there might need to be a workaround that needs to be "developed", which should be easier with root access I'd imagine.
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I do actually have an incredible on Verizon seeing as that's the only network for this phone...
I misunderstood your wording for switching on and off the mobile network and wifi network. Just booted up skype mobile and noticed the message you were talking about,
"Skype mobile does not currently work on WiFi and requires witching to a Verizon Wireless data network connection. This may affect other apps using a WiFi connection."
That's pretty lame. Haven't heard any workarounds for that so far.
adrynalyne said:
Haven't used the official Skype app lately, have ya.
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Lol no I haven't, I downloaded it and used it once but since it doesn't support video I saw no real use for it.
Edit: Found some more information on the situation at hand - http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Verizon-Skype-Client-Apparently-Disables-Android-WiFi-107895
Thanks for the article. It sounds weird though about there being a glitch, kinda like the GPS issues on the pre plus with verizon. I don't get why the iphone can do would over both wifi and 3g but us android users are left in the dust. Hopefully this exclusivity expires soon and we get a fully functional client. So much for "Droid does" I guess
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I'm using it right now and it works really well.
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I'm using it right now and it works really well.
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Skype on wifi?
Ok one of the reasons I mainly got this phone was the mobile hotspot feature because the internet at my college blows and it would be nice for everyone to be able to browse the internet in a single dorm and not just 2 people. Unfortunately Sprint has made it so this feature costs an addition 25 with your bill. I don't pay the bill so this isn't an option for me. I heard that if you root the epic, you can use the mobile hotpot feature for free. I haven't rooted it yet but I have the z4 root application on my phone. So how can I go about doing this?
Run z4root and then download and run wireless tether. Its not on the market so google it and you will find the latest version. I don't recall whether it will run on a stock kernel; if not you'll want to install a custom rom.
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It is usually usable only on the Eclair build when rooted. Sometimes not ;-)
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Ok I found a hit on google for wireless tether on google code. The only samsung glaxy device I saw said it ran on 1.5 but I'm on 2.1 so it should work right. I'm not sure if the device listed works with epic but it said galaxy device. Also will sprint notice the increase of data usage and charge me more?
Nope, unless you start dl movies.
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So standard internet browsing should be fine then?
Your expectations are unrealistic and this is a really easy subject to search for.
I don't unerstand how my expectations are unrealistic but thanks for the responses anyways.
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Here you. Root and wifi tether and other stuff all in one. Easy menu.
http://forum.sdx-developers.com/epi...ecovery-2-04-for-windows-intel-mac-and-linux/
If you are on 2.1 the best way is to get clockwork (use the one click root) then find mobile ap in the dev section and apply the zip. Way more stable than wireless tether in my experience.
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Jayavarman said:
Here you. Root and wifi tether and other stuff all in one. Easy menu.
http://forum.sdx-developers.com/epi...ecovery-2-04-for-windows-intel-mac-and-linux/
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Thanks much Jay. Gonna give that link the once over before I mess with the phone itself. Thanks ipaq as well. I'll check that out if I find any problems with the one in Jay's link.
Definitly if you are staying on stock rom, use mobile ap, it is soooooooooo much better then wireless tether, and if you follow my tutorial after rooting and getting clockwork first you can have themes with it too.
I think what he's trying to say about your expectations is you think you can do this and give everyone internet on your dorm. Do you know how slow that will run? Also you can only connect so many devices at one time. I don't know how many for wireless tether but mobile AP is 5. Yes wireless tether is a great feature its just not going to meet your expectations for helping a while dorm out.
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What college do you attend?
Am I missing the OP's question that Sprint called this device a mobile hotspot?? Is Sprint lying?
If you don't pay the $30 a month charge for hotspotting, will Sprint find out and charge you any extra if you tether your phone after rooting it?
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If you don't pay the $30 a month charge for hotspotting, will Sprint find out and charge you any extra if you tether your phone after rooting it?
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Ive been tethering since i had windows mobile, and ive never been in trouble, just dont download movies or any other big files. I mean its not even worth it to download movies takes too long anyhow. Just dont take your phone in rooted with that app on it or then u might get into some trouble.
If you have an epic 4g you have unlimited (truely unlimited) data...they are not going to say anything regardless of how much data you use. That being said spint will not Check the status of your phone (root or un rooted). You are go to go on tethering
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Ive been tethering since i had windows mobile, and ive never been in trouble, just dont download movies or any other big files. I mean its not even worth it to download movies takes too long anyhow. Just dont take your phone in rooted with that app on it or then u might get into some trouble.
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Yeah, I don't plan on doing anything crazy like torrenting. I'd use this to tether my iPad if I'm in an airport or on a long trip, or maybe if I'm on vacation and don't wanna pay $10-30 for the hotel's wifi. That's all. Nothing mundo crazy where I'm using gigs of transfers.
Thanks for letting me know!
I have a question that I hope someone here can answer.
I've toyed with the idea of installing one of the hotspot programs. But, I'm very wary of surfing the Net without a NAT/firewall between my Windows box and the Net. Do these programs provide firewall-type protection to the machines that are surfing through them?
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So I wonder. Some people are afraid about Sprint or other companies noticing that they are thethering. Now i Wonder with teh EVO 4G's Web browser can you tunnell the connection through.. Sort of like you connect to the desktop so that the data end up passing into the phone then through its browser. Not using the browser to view links but a script of sorta that sends the info of the browser and phone along wiht the data... just like some sort of tunnling method.
Not sure if this is understood much:/
Which is pretty much exactly what pdanet does.
Either way, it doesnt matter. Sprint sees data as data. They can't tell if you are using the data on the phone or tethering to a computer.
It was for people who are freaked out. Well a usefull thing that allows without a app useage but. Just one of my many ideas.
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It was for people who are freaked out. Well a usefull thing that allows without a app useage but. Just one of my many ideas.
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If thy are freaked out they can pay for the service.
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Not sure where to post this but if you use the tethering mod be careful, you might get caught in this. Any tethering mod (including the webtop dock hack i think)
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...ally-tethering-will-be-moved-to-tiered-plans/
Even the wireless tether for root users app?
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Search!
This topic has been covered several times over several months!
There has to be a file that stores tethering info and somehow submits it to AT&T. Is there a way of "freezing" anything collects data on our phones? I honestly think it's BS that I need a tethering plan for the lapdock....It's not like it's a seperate computer. I upgraded my sons line when I bought the Atrix and lapdock and then moved the Atrix to my number and dropped his 4gig tether plan to the 2 gig plan. (I didn't want to lose my unlimited..LOL)
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Click the link before telling someone to search - this is a NEW notice from AT&T, posted today, that says they're going to start kicking people off their unlimited plans if they tether "illegally" (what a load of BS).... This is new and relevant, and I just bumped the other thread discussing this because of it's importance!
I don't think you have to worry about this on an android phone. I've never heard or read anywhere where an android user has been contacted by at&t. It mainly applies to iphone and how iphone users can tether using various apps. Android has its own internal routing and assigns ip addresses like a dhcp server where as an iphone (I think) may pull ipaddresses off att's network.
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I don't think you have to worry about this on an android phone. I've never heard or read anywhere where an android user has been contacted by at&t. It mainly applies to iphone and how iphone users can tether using various apps. Android has its own internal routing and assigns ip addresses like a dhcp server where as an iphone (I think) may pull ipaddresses off att's network.
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That's funny because there is a thread right above this one in the list where all the people who received letters from AT&T were chatting about it. Guess they were hallucinating?
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I have only heard of this happening to iphone users. I tether constantly with no warnings
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A buddy of mine got a letter and it was because he was using the MyWi app. My wife uses is very rarely if the kids want to download an app from the app store. I think since iOS 4.?, there might something that recognizes when the phone is tethering and how much data was used during that time frame. You can use your phone for an hour from 3-4pm and look at your data usage the next day and your phone notifies AT&T in the middle of the night how much data was used that day... shows up as internet/media net on the bill.
The article is in regards to tethering apps not APN mods and even the article talks about the iphone not android. We seem to be safe for now
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Click the link before telling someone to search - this is a NEW notice from AT&T, posted today, that says they're going to start kicking people off their unlimited plans if they tether "illegally" (what a load of BS).... This is new and relevant, and I just bumped the other thread discussing this because of it's importance!
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=998148
Like I said................already covered..............there was no need to start a new thread about the same topic!
Can we avoid the "potential" flame wars?
Atrix forums has enough problems as it is on XDA...
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That's funny because there is a thread right above this one in the list where all the people who received letters from AT&T were chatting about it. Guess they were hallucinating?
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All the people who received letters from the other thread were iphone users... If you read the other thread you'll even see where several people told them to stop talking about iphones issues in an android forum. Unless your using an app that isn't baked into the os to share your wifi connection, I honestly don't think you have to worry about this as the method of "sharing" is different from ios.
This thread should be locked down as there is already a continuous one going (duplicate thread).
Here is your proof:
http://www.sprintfeed.com/2011/10/s...arket/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/1...locking-tethering-apps-in-the-android-market/
There are a million ways to get around this of course: market hacks, downloading the apps from other sources, side-loading... they're included with most roms... blah blah blah.
Just bringing this to your attention in case you were trying to d/l it from the market and it's not showing up. Now you know why
Just checked the market and looks like you're right. No PdaNet. No Easy Tether. Can still get Easy Tether on Amazon's app store however.
This will only effect the NOOBS.
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Just checked the market and looks like you're right. No PdaNet. No Easy Tether. Can still get Easy Tether on Amazon's app store however.
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This will only effect the Noobs. We can easy download the tether programs to our computers and then copy them on to our android phones.
I knew this. I just ingored it
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Why do they give us data hungry phone and then want to limit our usage?
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Technically we agreed not to use these, but still. Getting around it is so trivial, and yes, this might trip up a few noobs, but chances are if you're that nooby you wouldn't have a need for, or even realize that, tethering is an option.
Add that all up, and it seems like the only thing this move can get you is bad PR/karma.
You may as well be "cool","allow" it, and play the "other carriers try to tell you how you can use your phone and limit your access to certain apps" card, cause it's happening either way.
Sprint can and will cancel service with high data usage.
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I use my PC and go to http://market.android.com/ and login to google account.
Easier to find apps that way anyway. Plus it shows all that I've ever downloaded if I look at my library.
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This will only effect the Noobs. We can easy download the tether programs to our computers and then copy them on to our android phones.
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That's what the OP says dude...
swear0730 said:
I use my PC and go to http://market.android.com/ and login to google account.
Easier to find apps that way anyway. Plus it shows all that I've ever downloaded if I look at my library.
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Easier to find apps, yes. Shows your previous download library, yes. Once you click on an item that is no longer offerred, it will tell you its no longer available for download. You basically stare at the husk of an app it once was. But it doesn't tell you that til after you click on it to view its details.
Meh i never used tether apps i use the official hotpot hack
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Meh i never used tether apps i use the official hotpot hack
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I like that one better. Its not an adhoc connection like the tether apps, but an actual hotspot that your computer actively looks for and can become a preferred network. Its just kewler.
Doesn't log your data usage though, only downside really.
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Sprint can and will cancel service with high data usage.
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What's about "unlimited data?"
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What's about "unlimited data?"
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Really only applies on your phone, as in, the data your phone is using. Tethering is a whole new realm. Sprint can tell if you're tethering or using your phone, so if you have a large amount of data through tethering, they'll flag you for it.
I think they're putting limits on tethering plans now, somewhere around 5GB or so I thought.
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I like that one better. Its not an adhoc connection like the tether apps, but an actual hotspot that your computer actively looks for and can become a preferred network. Its just kewler.
Doesn't log your data usage though, only downside really.
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Plus it is stable and doesn't cause reboots and its built into settings so u also get usb tethering too
Also i like it cause it has many different security types and i found one that works with my ds
Only one LOL
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Sprint can tell if you're tethering or using your phone
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They can make you pay for the use of *their* tether app, but I'd like to see evidence that they can tell if your using the likes of a rooted phone with Wireless Tether. I think of this situation the way I viewed using a wired/wireless switch off your home broadband ISP back in the day. For me, Charter only allowed one registered MAC address to the cable modem, and there was some FUD spreading around that you'd get "busted" for using a switch to provide service to multiple computers. Of course there was no way to tell unless they get really invasive. Similar deal here. Hopefully restrictions on phone tethering will seem just as crazy in a few years.
I'm using TWC isp over wifi right now & its not showing up? WTF how is it that its not showing up over wifi?
Edit. I see the one by open gradin. But not the one by Muller
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hayzooos said:
Really only applies on your phone, as in, the data your phone is using. Tethering is a whole new realm. Sprint can tell if you're tethering or using your phone, so if you have a large amount of data through tethering, they'll flag you for it.
I think they're putting limits on tethering plans now, somewhere around 5GB or so I thought.
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Actually they can't. The data logger only kicks in if you pay for the Hotspot app. They can't tell the difference if you are tethering or downloading tons of movies to your phone.
ArchangelRenzoku said:
That's what the OP says dude...
Easier to find apps, yes. Shows your previous download library, yes. Once you click on an item that is no longer offerred, it will tell you its no longer available for download. You basically stare at the husk of an app it once was. But it doesn't tell you that til after you click on it to view its details.
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Actually... I decided to use my Epic as a wireless hotspot about 3 days ago and was didn't find any wifi tether apps using my phone so I used my PC 'cause I knew I'd downloaded one before. (wifi tether). Went through my library, found it and pushed it to my phone.
(cool story bro)
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You forgot "I think" in the beginning of that sentence - you can't "know" something that is false, so that would be the only edit that would make your sentence accurate. Oh, but you'd still be wrong, just to be clear
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"Unlimited data" only means that you aren't going to get billed for going over x amount.
It doesn't mean Sprint just has to lay back and take it from someone who's costing them money to have as a customer, tethering or not. They reserve the right to tell any of us to beat it.