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Image Compression! Let us express!

With a quick searched on the internet, I noticed that the Galaxy S4 has a sensor camera equivalent / equal Xperia Z, but your pictures are generated with 4Mb to 6.5MB, while the Xperia Z is 1Mb to 2.5Mb.
Follow the link to get an idea of the difference image!
We must inform Sony that we are completely unhappy with the image compression!
http://samsung.hdblog.it/2013/04/17/samsung-galaxy-s4-test-fotocamera-da-13-megapixel-by-hdblog/

BR4DOKYBrazil said:
With a quick searched on the internet, I noticed that the Galaxy S4 has a sensor camera equivalent / equal Xperia Z, but your pictures are generated with 4Mb to 6.5MB, while the Xperia Z is 1Mb to 2.5Mb.
Follow the link to get an idea of the difference image!
We must inform Sony that we are completely unhappy with the image compression!
http://samsung.hdblog.it/2013/04/17/samsung-galaxy-s4-test-fotocamera-da-13-megapixel-by-hdblog/
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First off, replace "we" with "I". Second, SGS4 uses an unknown sensor with the same megapixel count as the Sony Exmor sensor, but then megapixels mean nothing anyway. Also, while there is a big discrepancy in file size, there is a not very big discrepancy in photo quality while zoomed in (compare photos at http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s4_vs_sony_xperia_z-review-915p8.php) if you look at image sharpness and ignore colour saturation and that sort of things. I don't see why the XZ photo file sizes should then be doubled just because the SGS4 has larger photo sizes.

compression isn't bad, in my opinion

its the same sensor.check anadtech s4 dissasmbly.by the way they are using same sensor with different module.i dont have a Z or S4 to talk about quality though

The images quality will much much more better if Sony reduce the compression, or at least let user decide jpeg quality.

I think the issue isn't about compression but denoise algorythms.
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OH GUYS !
Sony have a answer :victory:
Read the answer here i hope now they will optimize the Camera :
http://talk.sonymobile.com/thread/126134

dubist said:
OH GUYS !
Sony have a answer :victory:
Read the answer here i hope now they will optimize the Camera :
http://talk.sonymobile.com/thread/126134
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Let's hope that there really is an improvement on the camera!
I remember when I bought my Xperia S, the first fw the camera was bad enough, but the latest updates have improved a lot!

Please vote in my research, so I can present the results to Sony!

What research??

juanmaasecas said:
What research??
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2232999

Guys, look this: http://www.xperiablog.net/2013/04/1...against-the-galaxy-s4-and-htc-one/#more-14312

I don't know if this related, but Sony recently applied heavy processing and compression to picture using there DSLR.
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BR4DOKYBrazil said:
Guys, look this: http://www.xperiablog.net/2013/04/1...against-the-galaxy-s4-and-htc-one/#more-14312
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yeah i write them an Email that they should Post something and you have done that :victory:
Here the Email i wrote to Xperiablog

Its a combination of both compression (jpeg) and noise suppression (when using high ISO)
The amount of compression/suppression applied is ridiculous.
Does the "developers" of the cam part know anything about digital photography at all?
Paying premium for a low end camera....Sony think the customers are stupid?

Bromsoket said:
Its a combination of both compression (jpeg) and noise suppression (when using high ISO)
The amount of compression/suppression applied is ridiculous.
Does the "developers" of the cam part know anything about digital photography at all?
Paying premium for a low end camera....Sony think the customers are stupid?
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No, Sony is smart enough to know that your phone is not meant to take DSLR quality photos.
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pandaball said:
No, Sony is smart enough to know that your phone is not meant to take DSLR quality photos.
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Who is talking about DSLR quality?
It not even half descent by todays phone standard...

Bromsoket said:
Who is talking about DSLR quality?
It not even half descent by todays phone standard...
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Define "today's phone standard". It is one of the better phone cameras out there, as compared to phones like the HTC One. It takes absolutely brilliant shots of landscapes in my experience (borrowed a friend's XZ just to play with the camera)

pandaball said:
Define "today's phone standard". It is one of the better phone cameras out there, as compared to phones like the HTC One. It takes absolutely brilliant shots of landscapes in my experience (borrowed a friend's XZ just to play with the camera)
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oh sorry, i should have said yesterday's standard.
Now go get your Arc, XPS, XPV and compare

Bromsoket said:
oh sorry, i should have said yesterday's standard.
Now go get your Arc, XPS, XPV and compare
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With pleasure. (both are done on auto/superior auto respectively)
Xperia Arc: ~2.5MB, super long exposure times and thus overexposed images
Xperia V: ~2MB, slightly oversaturated blues
No XS though
But seriously, XZ is pretty darn good for the file size already.

Camera test! Xperia z1 vs htc one

CAMERA TEST!!!
SONY XPERIA Z1 VS HTC ONE
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XPERIA Z1 USE 3MP RESOLUTION
HTC ONE USE 4MP RESOLUTION
FULL RESOLUTION IMAGES YOU CAN DOWNLOAD FROM HERE:
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Xperia Z1 bad!
HTC One WIN, image captured HTC is very good, natural, no yellow tint and no blur.

MixaDJ said:
HTC One WIN, image captured HTC is very good, natural, no yellow tint and no blur.
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Xperia Z1 is clear winer!!!!
No yellow hue!!!
No blur!!!
Htc One have, black and white tint!! No natural colors
Picture was taken with Xperia Z1 is a lot sharper, and more natural!!!

Can you provide us the original pictures?cause it's all thumbnails.

Djuro89 said:
Xperia Z1 is clear winer!!!!
No yellow hue!!!
No blur!!!
Htc One have, black and white tint!! No natural colors
Picture was taken with Xperia Z1 is a lot sharper, and more natural!!!
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Whoever loses has the right to be angry!
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chesterr said:
Can you provide us the original pictures?cause it's all thumbnails.
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Imo test 9,10,11 = z1
Test 1/8 = HTC one.

Typical Htc One algorism of Over exposure the Scene. Z1 can come closer to the subjects too. but the yellow tint in flash of the htc one is better than the colder z1 other than that i like the Sony
Also the htc one softining the lower right quarter is still there .. ---> check the Sofa and the carpet image.
where is the low light with flash off images of both ? and the extreme low light landscape with Night mode on/off on both ?

Djuro89 said:
Htc One have, black and white tint!! No natural colors
Picture was taken with Xperia Z1 is a lot sharper, and more natural!!!
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Where are the reference shots ? How to tell which one is more accurate.
more natural or pleasing is subjective.
How hard was it for you to take these shots with Z1. Was it SA or did you manually set ISO and then 3.5MP.
How long it took to set up Z1 to take shots.

I dont know what modes were used, but (not being biased) HTC looks beter (I have Z1). I guess in harsh conditions situation can be different, It seems that Z1 is preserving more detail in highlights.

One Twelve said:
Where are the reference shots ? How to tell which one is more accurate.
more natural or pleasing is subjective.
How hard was it for you to take these shots with Z1. Was it SA or did you manually set ISO and then 3.5MP.
How long it took to set up Z1 to take shots.
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See the sofa pic of the htc and take a look at the lower right quarter ..
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One Twelve said:
Where are the reference shots ? How to tell which one is more accurate.
more natural or pleasing is subjective.
How hard was it for you to take these shots with Z1. Was it SA or did you manually set ISO and then 3.5MP.
How long it took to set up Z1 to take shots.
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Used manual mode. ISO on the Z1 was set at (ISO 100), and EXPOSITION depending on the image between (1, -0,5)

Djuro89 said:
Used manual mode. ISO on the Z1 was set at (ISO 100), and EXPOSITION depending on the image between (1, -0,5)
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Upload the full sized photos so they can see which was more realistic. You can use tinypic.com for that.
( taske ubaci im cele slike da mogu da vide ko je bio priblizniji realnosti , možeš na tinypic.com da staviš pa ovde forum linkove. Ili na flickr )
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both are pretty terrible

Shan89 said:
Upload the full sized photos so they can see which was more realistic. You can use tinypic.com for that.
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Doesn't tinypic automatically reduce the size of the photos to 1600 pix.
The full size are available from the links posted already and i've viewed them. eg, take test1, url for Z1 photo is
http://s21.postimg.org/ln95pkq8n/image.jpg
to get orginal use
http://postimg.org/image/ln95pkq8n/full
and so on...hence postimg is better than tinypic for our purposes. maybe OP can edit his post to include these links so they are avialibel just by clicking on the photos.
Now, the difficult bit is to agree on the criteria to use to judge these photos.
If we take pixel peeping, the limits of h1 are quite apparent in 1:1 view. The Z1 at 1,536 × 2,048 JPEG (3.1 megapixels) is more clear than the h1 at 1,520 × 2,688 JPEG (4.1 megapixels). Using this criteria ALL the Z1 pics at lower than h1 resolution are better.
Now if you say that its not necessary to do cropping or zooming then this criteria cannot be used. Maybe its unfair too as the Z1 with higher resolution sensor is down sampling and has an unassailable advantage over the h1.
The other thing is the Z1 camera settings have been tweaked, a number of times EV comp is used. Also WB has been manually set in the outdoor shots. Whereas the h1 had WB in auto for all shots and no ev compensation was applied. I don't know how skilled the h1 person who took these photos was but the Z1 person is skilled and took above avg photos as a result. So the camera knowledge of either photographer or lack thereof plays a role in image quality.

As I have also said over at ONE forum...(i have both phones)
The Z1 certainly have the hardware to be a great camera IF Sony ever put in the effort...
The auto feature that (let's be honest) most people will use, sucks big time, and that is a real shame...
The HTC ONE, on the other have a almost perfect auto feature, fast and sharp pictures (with crappy colours), but the hardware is only a 4mp sensor, and that is so last century...
AND nothing software wise can be done to improve on lack of modern hardware...
Who will make a compare to say a Xperia V instead, that would be a lot more interesting...
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chesterr said:
Can you provide us the original pictures?cause it's all thumbnails.
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Bro, you can download from here:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-KHHWZwk32tZmE4UVhUN21jbEk/edit?usp=sharing

z1 is much better, i suppourt z1

Z3 camera worse than Moto G 2014?

Today I tested canera performance on my Z3 and my brother's Moto G (2014). The result scared me a little. I hope it's just me who thought the moto G ones were more vivid... what do u guys think?
Moto G:
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Z3 captures the colors as they are in real life. Some would say that's good, but I'd rather get more vivid images instead ?

That's why you edit pictures afterwise.

lol1rfs said:
That's why you edit pictures afterwise.
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So a high-end $600 phone needs pictures edited to make it equal to a low budget phone?

Well what did the actual scene look like????

se1000 said:
Well what did the actual scene look like????
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It looked more like the z3's pics. The Moto saturation is a little high.

Yes, sadly.

Try the Camera FV-5 apk. Not that any particular app makes the pictures look better but it gives you a DSLR complete control feel to it. Also the Aviary apk (free) has some nice simple touch ups for pictures.
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Whats wrong with the pics?
The Moto pictures look as said saturated blurred and low in quality.
The camera of the Z3 is the best one I ever had. Even in low light enviroment it makes awesome pics.
Compare some pics in the evening when u are watching tv with lights out and be happy to have a phone with such an awesome cam.
The Cam and the Display are the 2 things that keeps me away from installing CM.
If u want more colors play a bit around with the special effects f.e. hdr.

se1000 said:
Well what did the actual scene look like????
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So, I wasn't there but this is what I interpret the pictures as.
The Moto G pics aren't really over-saturated, they just lack dynamic range (difference between dark vs light areas). They essentially tuned the sensor so that if this sort of thing happens, it chooses the brighter side of the scene. The leaves and darker areas can't be recorded as dark as they actually were, so it chooses to make the overall picture just brighter. Sony does a much better job of capturing the light areas such as the concrete and also the darker shades and leaves. The other difference is white balance, the Sony chose something a little cooler, and the Moto warmer. Without being there, tough to say which is more accurate but from the pics I'd say the Sony got it right.
Easy fix, force the Sony to overexpose or use something like pixlr to boost exposure.
Second picture is much of the same, the thing that jumps out is the red colors. In the moto it looks orange, in the Z it looks much more red. Again, if I had to guess the Z got it right.
Now, this is all great with plants, rocks, and garden hoses, but what happens when you take a picture of people? Those Moto pics are going to look off, like people's faces look like cake and lack the proper color it needs.

Z3 is easily better if you know how to use a camera

zombiej79 said:
Z3 is easily better if you know how to use a camera
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Thats kind of the while point of "point and shoot". I should be fiddling with settings when im trying to capture that moment. Superior auto setting is an absolute garbage
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Xposed module changes superior auto to 20.7 mp makes a big difference

Seriously what is wrong with you guys.
Have you ever used an high quality cam?
In every shop there are phones where you can test them.
There are more tests in the net as you could ever read in your lifetime.
So if you don't like it don't buy it.
Should sound familiar as an iPhone user xD
Have just done a few shots but I'm sure you can save your favorite settings.
If this is too mich work to do I would suggest to sell your Z3 and buy an Moto or similar and stop annoying us.

I personally think the z3 camera is one of the best out there not hard to use manual mode

Sorry. I should've quoted the person who said that that he prefeerd the more vibrant colors over the more accurate. I meant that if you want it more vibrant you should edit it so and let the original photo be correct.

I use 8MP on manual it does well, it's just "Superior Auto" that sucks.

bluesky2111 said:
So a high-end $600 phone needs pictures edited to make it equal to a low budget phone?
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Sorry. I should've quoted the person who said that that he prefeerd the more vibrant colors over the more accurate. I meant that if you want it more vibrant you should edit it so and let the original photo be correct.

I think it isa good also ti add that Feature if the client wants a vibrant they should add it.
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Did you try using HDR?

Z5 camera VS Iphone6 plus, SGS6, LG G4, Z3

Here they did a test with most new phones including the Z5! Shame i cant link the photo's directly so you have to go to the link it self http://www.phonearena.com/news/First-Xperia-Z5-vs-iPhone-6-Plus-vs-S6-vs-Z3-vs-G4-camera-samples-comparison_id73408
The Z5 takes pretty awesome shots and its way better then the z3 camera. The colors look so much more correct and in some phones it beats the sgs6.
Edit:
http://support.sonymobile.com/us/contactUs/phone/?region=en_US and ask if they can add RAW support

I like iphone 6 plus more.

banggood said:
I like iphone 6 plus more.
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the red on the iphone looks washed out or better said, the amount of light on the car is captured more on it. the z5 captures the real color from my perspective

In my opinion Z5 is better than Iphone 6+ and GS6, colors of the 2 is slightly saturated.

Regardless of color accuracy, the resolution increase still does not helps getting sharper images. There is too much noise reduction applied, especially compared to iPhone 6. Apple here does a decent job although I'd rather have much more noise and no NR applied in camera. Worst offender is LG, which applies an insane post-NR sharpening.
I think we should wait for production samples and hopefully some 3rd party app that can leverage better on this new sensor. Otherwise there is no real advantage against Samsung or Apple.
As for color accuracy, it really comes down to the app and how much processing is done. On my screen (which is calibrated, but it's not best quality panel) and to my eye Z5 has decent overall color rendition, but I prefer the G4 in the first picture (less punch but the overall colors are more accurate) and the iPhone in the third.
In the end, we are not yet at compact camera level - maybe next iteration (z6 or z7 or whatever they will call it). I'd really love to have an RX100 performance squeezed into a phone

Found a site with more samples pics from the Z5 vs note 5. http://www.eprice.com.tw/mobile/talk/4523/4953454/1/rv/sony-xperia-z5-compact-review/ Its a close call but Z5 wins when its shoots a photo in the dark tho.
All photo's on the left side are made by Z5 and right side is the note 5
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RiTCHiE007 said:
Found a site with more samples pics from the Z5 vs note 5. http://www.eprice.com.tw/mobile/talk/4523/4953454/1/rv/sony-xperia-z5-compact-review/ Its a close call but Z5 wins when its shoots a photo in the dark tho.
All photo's on the left side are made by Z5 and right side is the note 5
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Am I the only one seeing that low light photos look good on Note 5. Specially the example you gave, Note 5 has more details compared to Z5. Yea we all know that Samsung dose produce more warmer pics which makes the photo looks yellowish, but if you take a closer look the noise reduction is so aggressive in Z5.
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P.S: Ah no wonder you seem to mix up the two photos. Note 5 indeed do look better here.

Sony for some reason still cannot make a good camera. Note 5 does look much better in almost every situation.
Also look at the sky in that one pictre. Z5 completely burnt while Note 5 shows some nice detail

http://www.uberlin.co.uk/berlin-moments-september-7th-september-15th/
These pictures looks awesome. and yea it got lotta details too. We need further tests to see how it's done. Since they can always get it right with software.
New camera module absolutely promising. Specially colour accuracy.

CandyAndy said:
Sony for some reason still cannot make a good camera. Note 5 does look much better in almost every situation.
Also look at the sky in that one pictre. Z5 completely burnt while Note 5 shows some nice detail
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Think its time you get some glasses bro. The first one and clearly the best low light photo is made with the Z5 not the note. Even if you zoom in on the billboard etc you see that the note blurs and has to much overexposed. But both are good camera's tho/.

chesterr said:
http://www.uberlin.co.uk/berlin-moments-september-7th-september-15th/
These pictures looks awesome. and yea it got lotta details too. We need further tests to see how it's done. Since they can always get it right with software.
New camera module absolutely promising. Specially colour accuracy.
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WOW those pictures look indeed pretty awesome!!! But they are taken by a pro tho with a tripod.

I am a Sony Fan But i Must admit the samsung note 5 is killing sony camera what a poor detail in z5 i hope there is improvement in the last release

Yea Note 5 has a great camera indeed, but I am pretty sure this is related to Software, and eprice device doesn't have the latest camera UI that means it's not running on the latest build, so untill then we can't really say which is better.
But overall Sony has good colour accuracy when it's day-time, I hope it'll be fixed with updates. I really want is more control over the camera such as Manual shutter speed and raw. Hope to see more improvement before the phone's released.

Sony has never been good at software, just hardware. It's just a... Mystery
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Specially when it comes to Camera software they don't seem to be doing great.

I am always surprised that despite making good cameras and selling camera parts to other phone manufacturers, Sony phones have the worse cameras in the mobile phone industry. The Z3 camera is terrible relative to Apples and Samsungs and their previous phones were even worse. Hopefully they finally fix it with the Z5.

Wow....

chesterr said:
Yea Note 5 has a great camera indeed, but I am pretty sure this is related to Software, and eprice device doesn't have the latest camera UI that means it's not running on the latest build, so untill then we can't really say which is better.
But overall Sony has good colour accuracy when it's day-time, I hope it'll be fixed with updates. I really want is more control over the camera such as Manual shutter speed and raw. Hope to see more improvement before the phone's released.
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What latest camera ui?

I love LG G4 most

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What latest camera ui?
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Xperia Z5 Camera can not focus on close objects !!

Hi all
I've been using this device for long. I noticed that camera can not focus on close objects. It can only focus on objects up to a certain distance and for smaller distance it focuses on far object and the main subject is blurred while background becomes focussed ,which results into very bad macro shots ( same problem in both 'Superior Auto Mode' and 'Manual Mode' ) .
After many experiments,I've concluded that it can not focus on object that are in 7cm or less away from the camera but, for objects +8cm away it can focus correctly .
I hope to see an update to fix that problem as soon as possible .
some samples :
Model: E6653
Build Number: 32.0.A.6.200
You can download original samples from here :
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-066edkqJ2vLU0xTzhuQ0JtQ3c/view?usp=sharing
The pictures on the right side were taken from a smaller distance than pictures on left side .
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https://youtu.be/IkwZbZp2dOo

Yep. Z5's minimum focusing distance is about 10cm. It's just a characteristic of the lens. Ultra wide-angle lenses are notoriously bad for macro photography. Z5 might well be the worst phone to take close-ups.
This has nothing to do with the software. This is a hardware based limitation. It is what it is. If you want your phone to take high quality close-ups, do not buy a Z5.

Use 16:9 aspect ratio. Camera software will downsample from 23MP.

Z5's minimum focus distance is 120 mm.I think z5 have a wide-angle lens,so......
Sorry for my bad English

Nothing real related to ultra wide 24mm angle. Sony is generally weak on focus close object, my older Z1c with 27mm lens isn't doing very well too whereas my S6 28mm lens done an excellent job.

Yes I think this is not because of the wide angle camera lens
because I have seen Xperia Z1 , Z2 , Z3 users talking about this problem here on xda and other forums .

korom42 said:
Yes I think this is not because of the wide angle camera lens
because I have seen Xperia Z1 , Z2 , Z3 users talking about this problem here on xda and other forums .
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Z1, Z2 and Z3 have wide angle camera sensiors.

Poor macro shot from Sony xperia z5

I am not a professional but I believe macro shots aren't taken by getting as closed to the subject as possible but by zooming in from a "regular" short distance

Funkmasterchilla said:
I am not a professional but I believe macro shots aren't taken by getting as closed to the subject as possible but by zooming in from a "regular" short distance
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Yes that is how it is done but with such cameras you have mechanical optical zoom and the loss is minimal and the lenses and sensors are bigger and better to reducec noise factor. On mobiles you have to resort to digital zoom which is not lossless though Sony in 8MP SA or manual mode offers upto 3x/5x "lossless" zoom. It is really good and way better than taking the photo at 21MP/23MP and then cropping in on subject.

rajkant1984 said:
Poor macro shot from Sony xperia z5
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Good macro shot from my Z5c. Use "lossless" zoom in 8MP SA/manual mode. This photo was taken with 5x zoom holding the phone with one hand in the air. 1/64, ISO 64.

Here are 3 pictures taken from the same distance (10-15cm): 1X, 3X and 5X. Manual 8MP 16/9, 50 ISO. I think it's not bad in 3X.

Anyone know if the problem is fixed in the Xperia X?

Sony says "The best camera".
I say: the worst.
I changed my Z2 D6503 by this Z5 E6603 and was the worst thing that I've ever done. If we speak about camera and battery.

MTechRD said:
Sony says "The best camera".
I say: the worst.
I changed my Z2 D6503 by this Z5 E6603 and was the worst thing that I've ever done. If we speak about camera and battery.
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Your phone camera is broken. Replace it cause the word "worst" dont compute with Xperia Z1+ line.

EQ2000 said:
Good macro shot from my Z5c. Use "lossless" zoom in 8MP SA/manual mode. This photo was taken with 5x zoom holding the phone with one hand in the air. 1/64, ISO 64.
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Wow, just amazing, how could you do that? Very sharp picture

devilmaycry2020 said:
Wow, just amazing, how could you do that? Very sharp picture
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Thanks! Just took a photo in Superior Auto in 8MP 16:9 mode with the zoom slider set to 5x. Natural lighting in the room of course affected it positively as it is always better than artificial light (more photons, more detail to capture).

the amount of misinformation in this forum is just unbelievable :/