I know that many people are too excited after the bootloader is unlocked, so now we can get a windows phone 7 port like that in HD2.
Personally speaking, I was going to trade my beloved X10 for a HD2 so that I can get the goods of both worlds, but now I am going to stay for a long while with the X10.
How many X10 users want a WP7 port?
i'd maybe try it out for a little bit
guys get realistic.....
there are TONS of devices with unlocked bootloaders, and only hd2 has a wp7 port.
It isn't as easy as you think. It is not going to happen
scoobysnacks is right. It isn't going to happen unless you the OP makes it. Most/all of the developers here are android developers...not Windows Mango. Personally I don't want it...I rather want a bootloader unlock that will work with SIM unlocked by third party software. THAT, my friend is more important now. For me atleast...
Thats why i have a samsung focus as well lol.
Even if theoretically some incredible wp7 dev shows up, expect it to take at least six months to a year.
I would be willing to bet it never happens
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Even if theoretically some incredible wp7 dev shows up, expect it to take at least six months to a year.
I would be willing to bet it never happens
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Of course it will not.
And, if you ask me,
I'd take any real improvement to the device
over a half-*ssed port of another OS any day.
Someone realllly needs to set the record straight on what an unlocked bootloader does and doesn't do. Half of the people on here think it will turn their phone into a spaceship, or something along those lines...
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Someone realllly needs to set the record straight on what an unlocked bootloader does and doesn't do. Half of the people on here think it will turn their phone into a spaceship, or something along those lines...
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Hahahaha
Well, there goes my dreams...thanks alot scooby!
Dont care for W7 as much as unlocking bootloader for 3rd party simunlock and partitioning.
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Someone realllly needs to set the record straight on what an unlocked bootloader does and doesn't do. Half of the people on here think it will turn their phone into a spaceship, or something along those lines...
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"I open booter how no full multi touched?"
Been seeing that question a lot recently...
Sent from my x10, rocking Wolf's 2.3.3 + DooMKernel, overclocked to 1.2 GHz...
My dream was always to have an Wm phone...since i was a kid. Unfortunately the only thing i could find before x10 was an OMNIA. God Damn.
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If u see all threats started by FXP/J u see he knows windows phone Developnment as well!!
MAGPC said:
I know that many people are too excited after the bootloader is unlocked, so now we can get a windows phone 7 port like that in HD2.
Personally speaking, I was going to trade my beloved X10 for a HD2 so that I can get the goods of both worlds, but now I am going to stay for a long while with the X10.
How many X10 users want a WP7 port?
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I doubt it would be possible because WP7 is not open source, and closed source software is not legal to modify and upload to XDA...
Of course, I may be wrong...
This definitely Will not happen. In more excited about hopefully having a proper ported ice cream Rom since the bootloader will allow a new upto date kernel
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Frosty666 said:
"I open booter how no full multi touched?"
Been seeing that question a lot recently...
Sent from my x10, rocking Wolf's 2.3.3 + DooMKernel, overclocked to 1.2 GHz...
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The full multitouch won't apparate outta the blue. Drivers need to be written and that takes time.
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I doubt it would be possible because WP7 is not open source, and closed source software is not legal to modify and upload to XDA...
Of course, I may be wrong...
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HTC HD2 did that already.
video just for reference: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgF0cSUJE4I&feature=related
unlocked bootloader gives us a lot more option to modified our phone as much as we like (but still depend on hardware limit). Any difrent OS on x10 should be fun. not that android is bad. but we can experience a lot of diffrent os without buy another phone.
You still have problems with partition layout - I doubt Windows and Android phones have same system+data+boot partition layout...
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HTC HD2 did that already.
video just for reference: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgF0cSUJE4I&feature=related
unlocked bootloader gives us a lot more option to modified our phone as much as we like (but still depend on hardware limit). Any difrent OS on x10 should be fun. not that android is bad. but we can experience a lot of diffrent os without buy another phone.
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yes but HD2 is an exception to the rule, it is the ONLY phone that this has been done on.
Yet how many phones have unlocked bootloaders?
These types of threads are ridiculous and not going to get us anywhere aside from giving people false impressions
I have been living in the HD2 forum for days before I got the Xperia, because I intended to get an HD2. then I got my beloved X10.
Anyway, what I know is that the HD2 and X10 have the same CPU+GPU chipset, which is an advantage to us.
So, if any developer is interested we may contact some guys in the HD2 WP7 forum asking for help.
I know that it may not happen at all, but would we stand still?. Hopes are achieved by positive attitude and work.
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Are we going to see a push for an Android port similar to what they already have working on the Touch Pro 2? I was curious if this is already in the works, or if we're just going to have to wait for the EVO to come out and have someone port that over.
Android question
Dude to answer your question Android is the same for Europe, Australia, US, and China. It utilizes the same drivers so bro so no need to port, it has all ready been done.
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Dude to answer your question Android is the same for Europe, Australia, US, and China. It utilizes the same drivers so bro so no need to port, it has all ready been done.
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not to be rude but he asked are we going to see a push for android to hd2. Obviously android will stay the same throughout other countries..other than language adaptations. N to answer the original question...yes there will be a push, im thnknin when the evo comes out we will have a better chance. N if there was a fully working android port to HD2 i would have it, i pray the day comess soon
I hope so, because its the only reason i got the HD2 to be honest, and that way i can get rid of my Nexus because WinMo isnt cutting it for me (
In the main HD2 forum there are a couple of Android Discussion & Dev threads. From what I have heard they are working on it but with the current available info it could be 6 months to a year before we see a working port, now that may or may not change when the Evo is released. You have to realise that even though the hardware is similar, the drivers and Kernel are much different so it's very difficult to make a port.
But that's pending the release so we will see.
Can i run Android on my HD2?
..And if so which one should i use?
Im already missing Android, this Winmo is making me want to pull my hair out..
Are there any with Sense UI that run 2.1 Android?
fociz said:
..And if so which one should i use?
Im already missing Android, this Winmo is making me want to pull my hair out..
Are there any with Sense UI that run 2.1 Android?
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If WinMo makes you want to pull your hair out, maybe you should go back to an Android device?
No, there are no fully working ports, and there probably won't be for a good year.
Why you'd want to castrate a phone like the HD2 with Android is beyond me though.
dude if you like Android why in the world would you buy the HD2? You already know this is running winmo from the start. if you're still in the 14day buyers remorse then return it. cant be that hard....... heard the desire is coming sometime this year to tmobile so save yourself from trouble and from pulling your hairs..... i myself is gettin' bald from people asking bout androids and crap for hd2.... lol
The HD2 is not that different from a desire/nexus 1, why not just buy that instead of buying a WM device then posting in a WM forum hoping for an android port? Seems simpler and you get a FULLY working device.
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The HD2 is not that different from a desire/nexus 1, why not just buy that instead of buying a WM device then posting in a WM forum hoping for an android port? Seems simpler and you get a FULLY working device.
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you have a very valid point...
ne one wanna buy a hd2 unlocked $500 plus shipping n handling
Truefully I'm happy with the HD2. I sold my Nexus cuz I love the screen on this thing and you can't go wrong with snap dragon on this device but until TMO gets their own version of a the Supersonic um good for now.
I think this phone would be a beast with some form of Android on it.
This is probably the 20th thread created asking the same question... please search before starting new threads. They have been working on an Android port for months now. The EVO might help a little, but it will still be a long time before there is a decently working port... at least a year.
I dropped my G1 for this phone, I love Android and all, but the screen size and speed was worth it. I do hope someone gets Android running on it, because that would be just awesome. If not, it's no biggy.
Also, are there any partial ports of android? Like ones with no Wifi etc? I haven't seen anything, but I may have looked in the wrong places.
No there is nothing working yet, partial builds will be the first that we get and then go from there. But like said it may be up to a year before we do.
fociz said:
..And if so which one should i use?
Im already missing Android, this Winmo is making me want to pull my hair out..
Are there any with Sense UI that run 2.1 Android?
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The *hope* is to dump the kernel from the Supersonic on Sprint when it comes out this summer. That *might* help a bit with drivers and whatnot, but even then, it is going to take some work.
so all-in-all... there will definately be android on the HD2 eventually, correct ? (I am looking forward to it...)
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so all-in-all... there will definately be android on the HD2 eventually, correct ? (I am looking forward to it...)
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really???
No, there's no definite anything. Android may never get ported. WM7 may never work. There's some talented people out there but that doesn't guarantee a damn thing.
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No there is nothing working yet, partial builds will be the first that we get and then go from there. But like said it may be up to a year before we do.
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By that time Windows Phone 7 will probably be ported over to the HD2.
Why buy a WM phone and wish for Android? Why not just get the N1? Android and Windows are made for two different types of people. Those who just want to press a button and those who want to see how the button works and change it to do other things.
From day one, WM was never meant to be an "out the box and work like a charm" device. It always required a little tinkering. Hearing all this "I wish it had Android" makes me wanna puke!
Hey all,
Im quite new and I was wondering if someone knows if there still is a progress of the android port to the HD2.
I've searched myselfs lots of times but I didnt find anything except in the [CLOSED] ANDROID/MAEMO/LINUX on HD2 [NO MORE ACTIVE!!] thread (CANT URL THIS IM NEW!!!)and its closed...
So my question was... Is there still a progress going on? and how far is the progress? Please reply.
Greetings Hawiak
This is the new thread. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=651632
They're still working on getting Linux on there and from there Android will go on. It's going to take a while (many months).
aceo07 said:
This is the new thread. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=651632
They're still working on getting Linux on there and from there Android will go on. It's going to take a while (many months).
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Thank you for your friendly response!
Ok I expected someone was working on it and I also expected that it would take some time to develop this port.
Thanks again!
Im glad its going to take a few months!
Because when Im bored of my phone, I can look forward to giving it new life in droid form
lonelykatana said:
Im glad its going to take a few months!
Because when Im bored of my phone, I can look forward to giving it new life in droid form
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Its not for sure it only would take some months mayby it can take much longer in the worse case it can turn out on nothing!
Hawiak said:
Its not for sure it only would take some months mayby it can take much longer in the worse case it can turn out on nothing!
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Yeah, there's no way to positively say how long it will be or even if it will ever be done.... right now they are stuck on some kernel issues that they have yet to figure out. They haven't made any more progress for a couple weeks, I think. But I'm remaining hopeful.... I think things will work out eventually. I'm in no rush for Android.
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Yeah, there's no way to positively say how long it will be or even if it will ever be done.... right now they are stuck on some kernel issues that they have yet to figure out. They haven't made any more progress for a couple weeks, I think. But I'm remaining hopeful.... I think things will work out eventually. I'm in no rush for Android.
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Am not expert when it comes to this but am guessing things might get a little better when the evo comes out as they have both got simmiler hard ware so they might be able to use the drivers etc.
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Am not expert when it comes to this but am guessing things might get a little better when the evo comes out as they have both got simmiler hard ware so they might be able to use the drivers etc.
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The drivers aren't the main issues.... they already have a lot of the drivers. The main thing they were hoping to get from the evo is the touchscreen... but it uses a different touch sensor than the HD2, so probably no luck there. The evo might help a little, but probably not any more than the nexus one did. It's just gonna take time to work out the kernel issues.
With so many android phones coming out with specs similar or even better than the HD2, this is a futile attempt.
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Yeah, there's no way to positively say how long it will be or even if it will ever be done.... right now they are stuck on some kernel issues that they have yet to figure out. They haven't made any more progress for a couple weeks, I think. But I'm remaining hopeful.... I think things will work out eventually. I'm in no rush for Android.
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This is the worst kind of news... I mean, baby steps are fine, but no progress makes me worry.
... not wishing to bash the people who are working on this, just stating my worries here.
BTW, I'm sort of amazed that hardware manufacturers would rather side with software developers rather than the community. IE: Throw down the specifications and then porting one phone OS to another phone won't be such a problem, right? Instead, they keep the specs hidden and only one software company gets them (in this case MS). If software could be changed, it would force the developers to put some more effort into it.
Alternatively... are there any phones with Android and Snapdragon-like CPUs coming out sometimes soon? I bet that'd help.
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With so many android phones coming out with specs similar or even better than the HD2, this is a futile attempt.
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Why is it a futile attempt? It was known from the start that there will be just as good or better android phones by the time it was finished. Thats how it was for all the android ports to WinMo devices in the past. I dont want to use android full time... anyone who does should have gotten an android device instead of a WinMo device. I want to use my WinMo most of the time, but have the ability to boot into android on the same phone and use that if I want to. Android or Linux ports were never being developed to completely replace WinMo... just get an android phone if you want that.
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Why is it a futile attempt? It was known from the start that there will be just as good or better android phones by the time it was finished. Thats how it was for all the android ports to WinMo devices in the past. I dont want to use android full time... anyone who does should have gotten an android device instead of a WinMo device. I want to use my WinMo most of the time, but have the ability to boot into android on the same phone and use that if I want to. Android or Linux ports were never being developed to completely replace WinMo... just get an android phone if you want that.
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Well I understand but I prefer 2 fully working OSes on 1 device that you can have a choice is nice tho...
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Why is it a futile attempt? It was known from the start that there will be just as good or better android phones by the time it was finished. Thats how it was for all the android ports to WinMo devices in the past. I dont want to use android full time... anyone who does should have gotten an android device instead of a WinMo device. I want to use my WinMo most of the time, but have the ability to boot into android on the same phone and use that if I want to. Android or Linux ports were never being developed to completely replace WinMo... just get an android phone if you want that.
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shoot, the only reason I want Android is for the apps. I could care less if the radio worked correctly. a phone is a phone. The apps and hardware is what makes it stand out and we got some bad ass hardware.
Hi Guys
i have a question it is possiple to port wm7 to x10?
or givs there any roms??
PS: sorry for my bad english =(
We can't either upgrade android version (maybe we can but not in 'full mode') and web should be able to port Wm7 (that couldn't either be ported yet to HD2) to our X10's?
Obviously no, we cant, and moreover, i think we will never can
x10i is a bad phone
Do you think so? ok your opinion. Im proud as a hell of my x10.
Regarding the question:
Maybe one day it might be possible, but i wouldnt be sure. eg. iphone is in progress of transcription to android, so maybe android will be transcripted to wm7, why not?
Kondzioz said:
Do you think so? ok your opinion. Im proud as a hell of my x10.
Regarding the question:
Maybe one day it might be possible, but i wouldnt be sure. eg. iphone is in progress of transcription to android, so maybe android will be transcripted to wm7, why not?
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I trink olso the x10 is an amazing phone
and Android 2.1 olso amazing but i think wm7 is from the designe better
and i would buy no wm7 Mobile because they look all agly
I hob that there were any devoper That make that possiple
The only thing tempting with wp7 for me is the xbox integration, would love to have that!
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prolly the closest your gonna get
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=781455
i would think we might have a chance at porting wm7 to x10 when x7 is released and we have the rom for the x7... that would be ur best bet...
that'd be great but wonder if its possible
Until the bootloader is cracked (allowing us to install whatever ROMs we wish), it's pretty-much impossible we'd ever see any way of installing an alternate OS. Once the bootloader is cracked, if someone were to put forth the effort to port the OS and get things working, technically it should be possible.
My question though is: why?
I'm personally not convinced WP7 is worth anyone's time, especially since it's as closed as iOS. Mind as well get an iPhone.
Wp7 has minimum specs that x10 does not meet. It requires 512 MB ram
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i will never ever back to windows even if i had a chance to.
i used almost all of windows versions and they all sucks and lags alot and have many bugs ... unlike android.
that my opinuin
I was just curious if anyone has any thoughts on Gingerbread on a Samsung Focus? I read that the Nexus S with the recent Gingerbread installed is the identical phone. I am very happy with Phone 7 and have no intentions of switching but the possibility could give us all much more value with the Focus. The thought of Gingerbread on this phone may also add to the longevity and a market value if someone wanted to sell it before their contract is up. I love phone 7 and hope they start some regular updates to make the phone even better.
Yep.. it's called the captivate LOL and probably not because it's a 3 button phone, kinda why HD2's and other window mobile phones are not upgradable
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Yep.. it's called the captivate LOL and probably not because it's a 3 button phone, kinda why HD2's and other window mobile phones are not upgradable
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on a side note.... the HD2 is upgradable... they've successfully put windows 7 on it. The only catch so far is it doesn't have the correct licencing so it isn't able to have working live tiles or the marketplace. But none the less.... its on there working.
I dont think anyones been working on Android on our phones yet. First thing's first is to get WP7 cracked open totally then they can do their magic. That's still a ways off though.
If you want android on a phone, how about you buy an android phone and not clutter wp7 areas.
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on a side note.... the HD2 is upgradable... they've successfully put windows 7 on it. The only catch so far is it doesn't have the correct licencing so it isn't able to have working live tiles or the marketplace. But none the less.... its on there working.
I dont think anyones been working on Android on our phones yet. First thing's first is to get WP7 cracked open totally then they can do their magic. That's still a ways off though.
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last time I check the gps, camera, and... something else didn't work but to add live tiles not working on top of that... what's the sense?
ITDRAGON said:
last time I check the gps, camera, and... something else didn't work but to add live tiles not working on top of that... what's the sense?
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well work in progress...considering they said WM7 wouldn't be able to run at all on any other devices Id say its a pretty huge step. Probably the only WM phone that can do it and do it well. Android still doesn't work fully on my touch pro 2 but I kept that phone just for that reason that one day it WILL be able to run it.
the HD2 can run android (almost full), WM 6.1/6.5, WM7 and I think they were saying they're starting to work on getting webos on it too so, pretty stellar phone I would say!
Still, like I said, I think android running on our phones is still a long ways a way. They only just recently cracked one of the HTC WP7's to be able to run other roms. Big step for sure but still a far cry from running an entirely different OS
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well work in progress...considering they said WM7 wouldn't be able to run at all on any other devices Id say its a pretty huge step. Probably the only WM phone that can do it and do it well. Android still doesn't work fully on my touch pro 2 but I kept that phone just for that reason that one day it WILL be able to run it.
the HD2 can run android (almost full), WM 6.1/6.5, WM7 and I think they were saying they're starting to work on getting webos on it too so, pretty stellar phone I would say!
Still, like I said, I think android running on our phones is still a long ways a way. They only just recently cracked one of the HTC WP7's to be able to run other roms. Big step for sure but still a far cry from running an entirely different OS
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Yeah well considering I use the GPS, and camera a lot, and live tiles now that I have it. I wouldn't consider that close lol That 4.3 screen is just awesome for TomTom. I'd rather use my HD2 as an android device before a windows phone 7. Web OS might be interesting though... aah so little time some many possibilites. Another problem is the Focus is only a 3 button phone, I duno if you can rework Android to work on 3 instead of 4.
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If you want android on a phone, how about you buy an android phone and mot clutter wp7 areas.
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Thanks for the useless comment. This is a legitimate question. Not all of us want to spend the money on every different devices. I'd like to be able to run android for testing on the Focus if it was possible. Nothing wrong with that question.
thegarmac said:
Thanks for the useless comment. This is a legitimate question. Not all of us want to spend the money on every different devices. I'd like to be able to run android for testing on the Focus if it was possible. Nothing wrong with that question.
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Then post the useless inquiry the android section and waste their space
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I was just curious if anyone has any thoughts on Gingerbread on a Samsung Focus? I read that the Nexus S with the recent Gingerbread installed is the identical phone. I am very happy with Phone 7 and have no intentions of switching but the possibility could give us all much more value with the Focus. The thought of Gingerbread on this phone may also add to the longevity and a market value if someone wanted to sell it before their contract is up. I love phone 7 and hope they start some regular updates to make the phone even better.
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lol.........................
thank you hvbelton! as i read... it is what i was thinking... then again... so thank you!
I hope SE marketing dudes can read this too!
I was a SE fanboy since the T68 and I only left them last year for the Nexus One, the reason?
HTC didn't lock everything in their Google Android phone and I can change any rom I want whenever I want,keeping me not to get bored by the same UI...
When I saw the presentation of the SE ARC I said to myself ''what a jewel!'' and was convinced to come back to SE,BUT it looks like SE doesn't want me or many many other people to get an ARC because they didn't understand the meaning of Android OS = Rooting and Custom Roms!!
Samsung in another hand understood very well the Android buyers needs and that's why the Galaxy S was a huge success...
In other words: SE is not learning from their errors or they don't want to?
Hahaha, how much do you want to hate a brand to start the 40th of such a topic. If you visit xda often you know there are hundreds of these kind of topics, tell me, why you open a new topic for this. 20 seconds of reading and you found lots of the same....
Mods, please delete this...this whole section will be a mess...just keep the flamers in one topic....
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The arc is rumoured to be more open than X10. Guess we just have to wait and see
The only reason Android has been about rooting and custom roms is because the core OS has been quite crappy up til now.. and the mannfacturer UI's have been dull and not intuitive or simple... this is all moving along rather quickly now and the core OS is significantly better.. close to full dual/ multicore processor support and the UI's are getting better, more friendly..
99% of users won't want to root and install custom ROM's when the preinstalled ones work.. and work really well.... the magic of Android is that there will be lots of UI's to choose from so there'll be plenty to cater for differing tastes.. and you can customise your phone loads anyway, before you get to rooting it..
vegetaleb said:
that's why the Galaxy S was a huge success...
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I do indeed see a lot of Galaxy S's out there, but I havnt seen anyone with a custom rom installed so that isnt the reason that it's a success.. maybe, uh, i don't know.. Clever marketing?
TimMun said:
I do indeed see a lot of Galaxy S's out there, but I havnt seen anyone with a custom rom installed so that isnt the reason that it's a success.. maybe, uh, i don't know.. Clever marketing?
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Quite a few of the Galaxy S's that I have seen had some sort of lagfix applied to correct the messed up filesystem that Samsung implemented but on the custom roms I'm absolutely with you.
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The only reason Android has been about rooting and custom roms is because the core OS has been quite crappy up til now.. and the mannfacturer UI's have been dull and not intuitive or simple... this is all moving along rather quickly now and the core OS is significantly better.. close to full dual/ multicore processor support and the UI's are getting better, more friendly..
99% of users won't want to root and install custom ROM's when the preinstalled ones work.. and work really well.... the magic of Android is that there will be lots of UI's to choose from so there'll be plenty to cater for differing tastes.. and you can customise your phone loads anyway, before you get to rooting it..
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Exactly. The X10 , like almost all other Android devices, is lacking with the stock software, which is why people root and use custom roms. I think that Sony Ericsson might be the first to deliver a fully satisfying 'stock' experience with the new Xperia series, and so that basically eliminates the need to root/rom.
Ambroos said:
Exactly. The X10 , like almost all other Android devices, is lacking with the stock software, which is why people root and use custom roms. I think that Sony Ericsson might be the first to deliver a fully satisfying 'stock' experience with the new Xperia series, and so that basically eliminates the need to root/rom.
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yes.. for most.. but there will always be the hardcore minority who will want to root it regardless of how good the stock ROM is - to remove apps they don't use, or change the UI in a way that you can't on a non-rooted phone!
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yes.. for most.. but there will always be the hardcore minority who will want to root it regardless of how good the stock ROM is - to remove apps they don't use, or change the UI in a way that you can't on a non-rooted phone!
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Exactly, but as you said it's only a hardcore minority, and they should try to understand why Sony Ericsson (or other manufacturers) can't always make sure everything is the way they want it to be!
The minority nowadays are the ones who don't want to root and use custom roms
Even if the stock rom is awesome it's still better to make it faster and enhance some components like camera and audio, now if you are a X10 user and can't enjoy custom roms like we are with HTC it's normal that you live in a world where rooting is like a crime
Oh by the way HTC Sense is awesome that's why I use it from time to time on my N1,now I want speed and smoothness so I am using MIUI,tomorrow when the stock gingerbread will have trackball wake and high def camera I will flash its custom rom
Yes yes most custom roms are based on stock roms so you lose nothing you just get more
vegetaleb said:
The minority nowadays are the ones who don't want to root and use custom roms
Even if the stock rom is awesome it's still better to make it faster and enhance some components like camera and audio, now if you are a X10 user and can't enjoy custom roms like we are with HTC it's normal that you live in a world where rooting is like a crime
Oh by the way HTC Sense is awesome that's why I use it from time to time on my N1,now I want speed and smoothness so I am using MIUI,tomorrow when the stock gingerbread will have trackball wake and high def camera I will flash its custom rom
Yes yes most custom roms are based on stock roms so you lose nothing you just get more
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I beg to differ, think about it, how many members here for the X10 section? 100k? 200K? I don't think we exceed 10k to be honest. Xperia sold in 2010 more than 9 million devices. Calculate that then you'll understand that we are the minorities here, 10% maximum
I'm getting an Arc, and I for instance won't be rooting it or putting a custom rom on it. The X10, I would, just for JIT, but that's about it really... Oh well!
I've just had a look.. and there's current c500 people viewing the X10 forums.. so yeah.. 10k is probably about right.. although alot of them won't have rooted either!
im_iceman said:
I've just had a look.. and there's current c500 people viewing the X10 forums.. so yeah.. 10k is probably about right.. although alot of them won't have rooted either!
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Then 10% is probably too much
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0.1% of 9 million is 9000... 1% is 90,000.. so I think we can safely pitch in at less than 1% will have rooted the phone. And sadly for them, they're also oblivious of how much more it can do once rooted!
guys i really wanna buy the xperia neo/ arc (havent yet decided ) but the only thing keeping me away from this decision is the locked bootloader question..
does anyone know whether se is still keeping it locked ? or they finally lstarted listening to people ?
thanks in advance
xilw3r said:
guys i really wanna buy the xperia neo/ arc (havent yet decided ) but the only thing keeping me away from this decision is the locked bootloader question..
does anyone know whether se is still keeping it locked ? or they finally lstarted listening to people ?
thanks in advance
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It will remain locked. Same with other companies as they are now asking SE's advice in locking their device. Atrix should be one of the new handsets that are signed locked.
darn fools all of them
but on the other hand, what IS the actual benefit from having the bootloader unlocked ? installing other kernels to implement roms easier ? OCing ? if thats all then im not exatcly impressed
ofc.. the easy rom implement is sweet, but people seem to be getting around the problem and making roms anyway
xilw3r said:
darn fools all of them
but on the other hand, what IS the actual benefit from having the bootloader unlocked ? installing other kernels to implement roms easier ? OCing ? if thats all then im not exatcly impressed
ofc.. the easy rom implement is sweet, but people seem to be getting around the problem and making roms anyway
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well, you're locked to roms which are made for your kernel version, if you have a locked bootloader
anyway I'm not really too fussed regarding locked bootloader tbh, I want a Android phone that has excellent multimedia options, with sleek design and extremely potent camera, that's exactly what Arc is - I bought x8 just to test out Android and honestly I can't say I'm too dissapointed with them deciding not to support old xperia line of products
I'll be super annoyed if they don't provide future support for the arc though, minimum 2+ years support is what all the mobile phone companies should do with their phones
SE has learned that it doesn't matter and that they can get away with it. It's likely that android will stay on the 2.3/4. Xxxx for a while for phones. But I don't think that they will support any phone past a year anymore.
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