Database Users

Wallpaper WTF

Okay WTF why can't I set the full wallpaper in Android? I mean MT4G is using WVGA 480x800 right? So WTF if I have same res wallpaper I can't set the full image without chopping it? Looks like I am already starting to miss the superior control of WinMo.
Also WTF is the background image moving? Is there any way to just make the wallpaper fixed in still form? So its on all 5 panels? What kinda crap is this.

HyperNode said:
Okay WTF why can't I set the full wallpaper in Android? I mean MT4G is using WVGA 480x800 right? So WTF if I have same res wallpaper I can't set the full image without chopping it? Looks like I am already starting to miss the superior control of WinMo.
Also WTF is the background image moving? Is there any way to just make the wallpaper fixed in still form? So its on all 5 panels? What kinda crap is this.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Um, this is a joke right?
When it brings up the picture and you have the little box in the middle of the picture, touch/grab a side and drag it out. It allows you to crop the picture and use the part you want.
As for scrolling wallpaper, yeah, always been that way since the first android device, so NO, you cannot make it the same on every page.

Your post is really negative. Probably won't get a lot of answers like this.
Sent from my stickie key HTC Glacier using XDA App

Must be his first Android...
Sent from my HTC Glacier using XDA App

setzer715 said:
Um, this is a joke right?
When it brings up the picture and you have the little box in the middle of the picture, touch/grab a side and drag it out. It allows you to crop the picture and use the part you want.
As for scrolling wallpaper, yeah, always been that way since the first android device, so NO, you cannot make it the same on every page.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well I am very neat freak and I don't want it to chop the photo I mean WTF chop it when its same res? it might miss few pixels also why can't you apply that and make still background? I hate it when wallpaper goes scrolling looks corny.
el-jodio said:
Must be his first Android...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
What gave it away einstein? my phone history?
Ya this is my 1st Android as I try to clearly stay away from iOS and wannabe google based BS they pretend to call Android. If this was WM lol it would take me 3sec to rape it and do as I want it. Ironic here Android is open source and WM is proprietary yet we have more control over it :O

if you want to "screenlock" your background Launcher Pro has that as an option, it is free in the market however you will lose most of your stock widgets (as they are proprietary to HTC Sense UI) unless you get the donate version, the developer has created his own verions of the most popular Sense widgets.
side note : if you are so anti-Android then why didn't you get the HD7 (since it runs your beloved WinMo) instead of the Glacier?

hypernode, U just lack the knowledge. If U looking to learn U might wanna ask without all the "If this was WM boy I would" stuff just because U have more knowledge about WM. Android is just as customizable as WM, just does everything better. I own a touch pro, and touch pro 2.

So wait you are telling me that no one complained about this BS before other than me? find it hard to believe as its same concept as desktop environment console which came from ironically from UNIX world 30+ years ago and before Win platform made it mainstream yet on so called Android PPC variant we don't have this? WTF how old is Android again? They don't even have this basic setting? I mean some folks might want to use wallpaper with lower/higher res for example in display tile, center, stretch and use it as is without chopping it.
BTW I am not anti-android I just hate Google gl with your info being passed around googleware. Its a privacy thing but they sure did a mockup job of Linux based PPC here. Also WTF would I want WM7? Have you seen that POS? lol whats with the tiles? Sorry I am not 5years old M$ failed again.
Would you want something like this?
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
This is WM7 on HD7 would you take what I had or this?
The only reason I picked MT4G was due to its superior hardware spec's thus promising much more capabilities. This was the only alternative other than HTC DHD which I can't use in USA due to no 3G so I picked this one. But I am not paying $450 for HD7 when its same BS as HD2 which we had since 2009.
I just find it odd that Android lacks so much which I find unbelievable for an open platform and I don't plan on becoming an Android developer just to apply wallpaper lol I mean this should have already been documented. Trust me I know I come from the real *nix world. Then again I had it for like a day maybe I should give it more time.

esincho said:
hypernode, U just lack the knowledge. If U looking to learn U might wanna ask without all the "If this was WM boy I would" stuff just because U have more knowledge about WM. Android is just as customizable as WM, just does everything better. I own a touch pro, and touch pro 2.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
lol knowledge to setup wallpapers? are you serious? they should have just "had" it. So you are saying no one ever noticed this before? I mean we are not talking about setting up UDE here on a server remotely then allocating XDesktop daemon. Then manually editing the display init via console with editor. Ohh man I can see now ill end up being a Android dev due to so much BS lacking. Hell if I can code AI's lol and my own filesharing client on my own network. I am sure this mock of OS won't be difficult as nothing to reverse engineer. Maybe I should give it few sometime so I am use to it.

::: eek!:::
HyperNode said:
lol knowledge to setup wallpapers? are you serious? they should have just "had" it. So you are saying no one ever noticed this before? I mean we are not talking about setting up UDE here on a server remotely then allocating XDesktop daemon. Then manually editing the display init via console with editor. Ohh man I can see now ill end up being a Android dev due to so much BS lacking. Hell if I can code AI's lol and my own filesharing client on my own network. I am sure this mock of OS won't be difficult as nothing to reverse engineer. Maybe I should give it few sometime so I am use to it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sent from my stickie key HTC Glacier using XDA App

Scrolling wallpaper has been out since the G1 over 2 years ago. If you are as smart as you claim to be, do 5 minutes of research before buying a phone. There are thousands of videos online showing the Android home screen. You could have watched a few, decided you didn't like the wallpaper scrolling and asked someone BEFORE you bought it, if it was possible to not have that. Besides that, walk into a T-Mobile store and use the phone for 10 minutes, see if you can do what you want.
You are acting so negative that Google didn't add the features YOU want, but you didn't take any time to research a product before you bought it? It sounds like you jumped in head first without looking anything up and now you are mad at everyone but yourself. If you are so desperate to have a static wallpaper, download LauncherPro, turn on the setting to not scroll wallpaper and stop complaining.

HyperNode said:
So wait you are telling me that no one complained about this BS before other than me? find it hard to believe as its same concept as desktop environment console which came from ironically from UNIX world 30+ years ago and before Win platform made it mainstream yet on so called Android PPC variant we don't have this? WTF how old is Android again? They don't even have this basic setting? I mean some folks might want to use wallpaper with lower/higher res for example in display tile, center, stretch and use it as is without chopping it.
BTW I am not anti-android I just hate Google gl with your info being passed around googleware. Its a privacy thing but they sure did a mockup job of Linux based PPC here. Also WTF would I want WM7? Have you seen that POS? lol whats with the tiles? Sorry I am not 5years old M$ failed again.
Would you want something like this?
This is WM7 on HD7 would you take what I had or this?
The only reason I picked MT4G was due to its superior hardware spec's thus promising much more capabilities. This was the only alternative other than HTC DHD which I can't use in USA due to no 3G so I picked this one. But I am not paying $450 for HD7 when its same BS as HD2 which we had since 2009.
I just find it odd that Android lacks so much which I find unbelievable for an open platform and I don't plan on becoming an Android developer just to apply wallpaper lol I mean this should have already been documented. Trust me I know I come from the real *nix world. Then again I had it for like a day maybe I should give it more time.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I saw your HD2 wallpaper on another post and personally I don't like it. It looks chaotic, unrefined and just an overall mess. That is just my opinion, but lets get onto the real issue here, hostility. Why are you coming at everyone with such hostility, calling everyone a kid and stupid?
The second question is, if you love WM so much, why do you try to make your phone look like an android phone? I tried the HD2 (well, it was a friends) and I found it to be a disaster, nothing was in a logical place or order, but again, that is just my opinion. A lot of people love WM, just like a lot of people love Android for their own reasons.
As for the wallpaper, I guess Google made what they liked (and MOST user like) and left it at that. Wallpaper is such a small aspect of the phone that I never really cared to do it any other way.
Maybe you should sell your MT4G, buy a used HD2 and wait and see what WM brings this year because you really seem to hate your phone.

what a tool.... hates google and buys a phone with google's software on it....
P.S. If you have to list your case and screen protector in your sig - you're better off with jitterbug.

Just curious but you do know that the wallpaper resolution is 960x800 right?!
Not 800x480. Try that hater and see if it helps.
Borodin was right...what a tool.

You are all on crack, so get of it.
@setzer715:
LOL @ you for saying "It looks chaotic, unrefined and just an overall mess"
You are obviously crazy now look at the SS from what you can conclude from single panel you have all the information in it. But on Andriod you force everyone on 5-7 panels but can't even display that info in one? lol don't be silly if you have any clue in graphic design you could see how beautiful and elegant it is aligned with focal point and matching color theme. If you think it looks like mess well you should admit yourself in the hospital or something.
Why I love WM? Cuz I am starting to see why Andriod is POS now only way to get it working is download stupid apps. "You got app for that?" WM6.5.X is more mature and it evolved. If you don't like it then do WTF you want and make it as you want.
@CyberStorm98
Do search on the thread and post I created and tell me if I didn't do research lol from that you can see what? Are you guys serious? This is STANDARD future I guess most of you use Windows in home? If you used real Unix/Linux you would know what I am takling about here but then again its ironic? On mobile platform WinMo is superior where in PC *nix is superior. You are for getting Android is BS due to googles control. BTW I checked out Launcher Pro its POS and costs like 2.99 for Plus which is BS due to actually lacking this standard future. Most of you just like it cuz they just IMPOSED that BS on you.
@borodin1
What are you mentally handicapped? You can't afford case or anything? Thats like buying a car and you modifying without stating whats under the hood. Ya if you can see my sig you should have seen the 1st/2nd line on it or did you miss that? Only thing I see is ATM its POS Android that's holding the device back as the hardware is superior.
@CBConsultation:
LOL he is right the wallpaper resolution is 960x800 when the display itself is 800x480. Which does not even make sense is that another BS google created? Do I need an app to fix that BS also?
Android is POS so far to me and most BS is lacking but you can fix that just go to silly app market and install some adware app with google ads on it they claim is freeware. I mean WTF it seems most are run away Apple iPanzy users.

Now I know I can easily modify this BS myself but ATM I am having 2nd guess if I want to keep this device as I still have 12days to return it so IDK if I want to root it yet and rape Android for whats it worth and fix it myself. Lets see how things goes if I do decide to keep it might flash to diff rom and start cooking my own. Been using POS: Android for 2days and I am not impressed. Some of the BS don't even make sense its utter ****up to 9th power.
I mean IDK why so many fanboys cried about Android being superior maybe they just some mindless drones who ran of from iPhone or some **** IDK. Its seems like just to do basic BS I "HAVE" to download some bull**** apps. Ooh man and don't get me started as the app claims its freeware but its adware. No wonder Android users don't like WM as most of the thing is already there and when they make an app its actually does something lol its not replacing anything as its complementary.
1st step is rooting this device and 2nd is to install Android SDK. What an utter failure. Just to have some decent standard I have to cook my own rom WTF.

Great. Make your own ROM and quit whining already. You can't type a proper sentence to save your life so stop the babbling.
Can't wait to see your home grown ROM. I hope your coding skills are better than your grammar skills.

Taskbar rant!!!

I am really miffed at this.
I think it is a big google mistake that we spend the money on these 10.1 inch devices only to have 5+% of the screen constantly used up a by a big black bar at the bottom!
In reality our 10.1 inch screens end up being smaller than that of a 9.7 inch ipad!
Surely all that was really needed was a small semi-transparent home, back, and settings buttons? Maybe even configurable. Can't be that hard, look at button savior or virtual button bar...
I have been experimenting with honey bar and the open source hide bar, but both these options when used in conjunction with the programmes mentioned above end up making the desktop stutter in transition...
Does anyone have a solution that might work, or are there any devs that can put something together?
Maybe leave the buttons in place, but have the bar itself transparent?
Phh... makes me mad, really.
What do you think? Post your thoughts.
MJ-12

Doesn't bother me one bit
Sent from my Nexus S 4G using xda premium

Same here.
As a matter of fact.....
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
My A500 Rocks!
Thor Transformer Revolver 3.5 Port v4.1

never bothered me but now that you mention it a transparent bar would be quite cool. Actually now I want one. Any other tabs have one?

irishmoe said:
never bothered me but now that you mention it a transparent bar would be quite cool. Actually now I want one. Any other tabs have one?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Galaxy tab have code for one, it gives show/hide option when pressing the power button.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1265397
-

MJ-12 said:
I am really miffed at this.
I think it is a big google mistake that we spend the money on these 10.1 inch devices only to have 5+% of the screen constantly used up a by a big black bar at the bottom! ....
MJ-12
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm not that upset about it. I have noticed it. But it's not there when it would actually matter to me (while watching video, playing games, etc.). As far as being a part of the interface or ui element, it's not really taking that much screen real estate from the apps that use it.
The simplest solution would be to replicate the 2.3 taskbar. A simple, thin taskbar with the time, battery, notifs on it and some smart points where we know to touch to get the desired action. It's likely it was made that size to be uniform with the size of the screen. Deeper into that, an easy way to hide it and make it transparent or translucent. Similar perhaps notif./active app list on phones...a simple pull-down or pull-up gesture could be implemented to pull it into and out of sight. Additionally, a gesture based solution could be implemented for apps that do require the bar to be there for use of backing out, going to home screen or viewing recent or running apps.
Remember that Samsung is running their own layer on top of HC so they can do whatever they want. That is also going to make it slightly more difficult for them to get updates to the tablet on a timely basis in most scenarios unless they are very on top of it. I doubt that with the multitude they'll have coming....7, 8.9 and 10 inch tabs all needing to be updated that they will indeed be very on top of it. And they don't have the best track record for updates post-hotness of their devices.
Acer could get the same customized elements if they did a light layer as well, but we'd no longer have vanilla HC and I don't think we'd like the trade off, which would be waiting a while longer for updates.
I say we wait and see what ICS has for us. It's at least somewhat likely Google has considered this.
Alternatively, maybe there's a HC designed launcher you could use to replace the current one?

Never noticed, I like it just like it is, transparent would be nice though.

Neoprimal said:
I'm not that upset about it. I have noticed it. But it's not there when it would actually matter to me (while watching video, playing games, etc.). As far as being a part of the interface or ui element, it's not really taking that much screen real estate from the apps that use it.
The simplest solution would be to replicate the 2.3 taskbar. A simple, thin taskbar with the time, battery, notifs on it and some smart points where we know to touch to get the desired action. It's likely it was made that size to be uniform with the size of the screen. Deeper into that, an easy way to hide it and make it transparent or translucent. Similar perhaps notif./active app list on phones...a simple pull-down or pull-up gesture could be implemented to pull it into and out of sight. Additionally, a gesture based solution could be implemented for apps that do require the bar to be there for use of backing out, going to home screen or viewing recent or running apps.
Remember that Samsung is running their own layer on top of HC so they can do whatever they want. That is also going to make it slightly more difficult for them to get updates to the tablet on a timely basis in most scenarios unless they are very on top of it. I doubt that with the multitude they'll have coming....7, 8.9 and 10 inch tabs all needing to be updated that they will indeed be very on top of it. And they don't have the best track record for updates post-hotness of their devices.
Acer could get the same customized elements if they did a light layer as well, but we'd no longer have vanilla HC and I don't think we'd like the trade off, which would be waiting a while longer for updates.
I say we wait and see what ICS has for us. It's at least somewhat likely Google has considered this.
Alternatively, maybe there's a HC designed launcher you could use to replace the current one?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well thought out reply, with some good ideas.
I think the best thing is to wait and see what ICS has to offer.
Cheers

I've always wanted to make the taskbar transparent. It doesn't bother me that its there and I use honeybar when I want to hide it, but having it transparent would make life so much easier.
When you use honeybar you're just adding another step to access the back, home and info buttons. I would also love to hide the upper icons as I never ever use them.

I know that there's an app that will hide the taskbar, because I saw it in one of the latest cooked ROMs in the DEV section. Have a look over there for the name of the app. He's actually included it in the ROM, but you can d/l the app once you know it's name.

you know I really thought I would hate it before I got this tab, but frankly I love it, it
s far more interactive and has great potential, with it being software based, it has moddability that buttons and capacitive spots don't have. and since the screens are already quite big, there's no lost functionality like on a phone.
case in point: download Wizz bar and see how much it add to the multitasking capability of HC. and remember that this is just getting started.

Honeybar
Sent from my A500 using Tapatalk

I love posting a solution to someone's issue and the thread instantly dies. Hope you found the Honeybar program. It works great but requires root.
Sent from my A500 using Tapatalk

msimindlessmsi2 said:
I love posting a solution to someone's issue and the thread instantly dies. Hope you found the Honeybar program. It works great but requires root.
Sent from my A500 using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I don't particularly think of that as a solution, per se. It is great info though if folks don't know about it. The thread probably cooled off because many people don't really care about the bar or are using ROMs that have the ability to hide it anyway.
Honeybar may hide it like what Samsung and some Devs have done with their ROMS, that's great on some level but there's still that underlying issue of the bar being 1. there in the first place and 2. pretty, erm, obtrusive in some apps for some people. Furthermore, honeybar requires root and not everyone wants to root their tablet.
I say hurry up ICS!

Neoprimal said:
I don't particularly think of that as a solution, per se. It is great info though if folks don't know about it. The thread probably cooled off because many people don't really care about the bar or are using ROMs that have the ability to hide it anyway.
Honeybar may hide it like what Samsung and some Devs have done with their ROMS, that's great on some level but there's still that underlying issue of the bar being 1. there in the first place and 2. pretty, erm, obtrusive in some apps for some people. Furthermore, honeybar requires root and not everyone wants to root their tablet.
I say hurry up ICS!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Eggsackery,
This is what I mean.
+1 for ics
MJ-12

Total screen area is 45.5 square inches... Status bar is just under 3... In terms of screen area, it is about 6%,
To be technical, subtracting out the status bar leaves 9.9 inches diagonally, which is how screens are measured... Actual diagonal size is really 10.07 inches... You lose 0.17 diagonal inches... 1.688% diagonal screen loss.
Edit: I could make it worse... Screen size is measured by the diagonal. If you take the diagonal of the status bar, it is about 8.6 inches... Which is 85% of 10.1... lol.
Sent from my ADR6300 using XDA App

Civato's mix rom has an app called hide bar that hides the taskbar and you can just swipe it back. It works pretty good.
Sent from my A500 using xda premium

monkey10120 said:
Civato's mix rom has an app called hide bar that hides the taskbar and you can just swipe it back. It works pretty good.
Sent from my A500 using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This info is included in the OP.
But its not exactly the point being made here. See a couple of posts back #14 by Neoprimal...

How would you want the Android 4.0 (ICS) update to look like? -Rumor Update-

Since SE has confirmed ICS update for the arc/arc S, I think it is a good idea to discuss about the appearance of the firmware.
Personally, I'd like most things to be left as stock with some touches there and here to distinguish it from other ICS builds.
What do you think?
EDIT: No, this is not "just another ICS thread".
EDIT 2: A Sony employee tweeted these:
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
If it's really true, I'm very excitedly happy. Yay for stock Android

- New timescape version (might include timescape for application)
- Apps & Widget manager
- New music players
- More bloatwares
- Hopefully camera will be fixed
- System running faster

what happen to the camera?

Chances are it will come with the same old tired S.E U.I, which isn't really an issue as that can easily be changed.

XperienceD said:
Chances are it will come with the same old tired S.E U.I, which isn't really an issue as that can easily be changed.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I hope we do manage to get it rooted with locked bootloaders because after that, making it stock is easy

-Camera compression
-Shortcuts for notification site, to add music player, power control shortcuts
-New home launcher...
-better support for liveview
-wi fi connection
-faster scrolling in menu, switch from first to last app. list faster.like moving finger on dots beyond apps
-"xBass" pls. make this > http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1106197 I'd appreciate it, really. f* xloud, it doesnt change max loudness.

I don't think SE is that dumb to change the whole appearance of ICS lol..
why would they even do that? maybe a little touch to make it more attractive than the others but why would they make it into a TS UI? LOL makes no sense to me as the holographic engine of the ICS FW is so damn awesome & sleek :O

I think it would be great if sony put its touch in the interface while keeping it ICS
look in general.

Camera compression is the only adjustment I care about. Make it better or lose a customer

Full blown SE customization.
Stock android is boring (at least for me)

- Hardware accelerated graphics -> smooth, lag-free scrolling and navigation !

Never in my days will I understand anyone who thinks the left is better UI design than the right >.< But each to their own I guess

I like se one over stock gingerbread .but ice cream?iam not sure
Sent from my X10i using xda premium

I hope and think SE will combine their amazing UI design skills
with ICS.
ICS is not so beautiful everywhere however I think - I really do! - that some ICS UI elements are actually inspired by SE.
SE has the best UI on smartphones IMO.

I like ICS home launcher, but I also like SE's home launcher, so I hope to have the functionality of SE Home launcher with the stock launcher + SE theme.
I like some of SE functionality also like Facebook inside Xperia.
but there's things I hate, SE must, and must and MUST do something regarding it...
1- the added pre-installed apps I hope SE make them optional, these are forced to be in the phone even if the user doesn't want them... yeah make them already pre-installed but don't make them system apps so we can remove what ever we want to remove.
2- The Home launcher & browser both should be Hardware accelerated, and Home launcher should be loaded in Memory all the time, and make the browser have this option also.

Xajel said:
1- the added pre-installed apps I hope SE make them optional, these are forced to be in the phone even if the user doesn't want them... yeah make them already pre-installed but don't make them system apps so we can remove what ever we want to remove.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
One of ics new features is disabling any system app so it looks like we won't have an issue
Sent from my LT15i using Tapatalk

jtc42 said:
Never in my days will I understand anyone who thinks the left is better UI design than the right >.< But each to their own I guess
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Erm, you've got to be joking?!! The Google ICS image on the right looks like a cluttered, cramped and confusing mess. The SE image on the left is clear and simple. Also look at that pointless big grey bar at the bottom of the screen on ICS - what an absolute waste of screen space.
I also absolutely hate the way ICS on the Galaxy Nexus wastes screen space for those pointless software Android buttons. Slimline tactile buttons as on the Xperias are a superior solution.
---------- Post added at 06:42 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:40 PM ----------
doomed151 said:
Since SE has confirmed ICS update for the arc/arc S, I think it is a good idea to discuss about the appearance of the firmware.
Personally, I'd like most things to be left as stock with some touches there and here to distinguish it from other ICS builds.
What do you think?
EDIT: No, this is not "just another ICS thread".
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm not sure whether you can already do this or not in ICS, but I think there should be a way to add labels to pages in your app tray. I see Google has added tabs for "Apps" and "Widgets", but I think this is a pointless change. I don't need a Widget tab, nor do I want an Android Market tab (it's there for no other reason than Goog£€ making sure to promote its ridiculous 30% cut on app sales). What I would like is the ability to create custom tabs to group my apps (or, alternatively, the ability to create folders) in the app tray. Ironically, Google have moved to SE-style side scrolling for apps, but with custom tabs vertical scrolling would actually look better!
I would also like companies like SE to neuter Google's power a bit more. I simply do not trust Google (I think it is becoming too big, powerful and "big brother" like) and would like SE to add features such as the making it more configurable what data Google receive, and reduce the dependency on Google services.
I also wish SE would stop forcing Facebook on users, and allow users to remove the Facebook app and all Facebook features - not only is the Facebook app badly written and a CPU and battery hog (which runs in the background even if you sign out), Facebook is another company that I do not trust at all.

I have to agree with Paul. I'm not a big fan of the ICS UI. I particularly don't care for the soft buttons at the bottom of the screen. I prefer a clean, simple look. Albiet I haven't used a true ICS ROM, but I have flashed ICS themed ROMS and don't like it all. Call me a creature of habit, but I have no plans of installing ICS when it's finally released.
If I've helped you in any way, please click the "thanks" button.
Sent from my Samsung SGH-i777 using XDA Premium

I forget to say,
1- Add support for USB-OTG Mass Storage, and please for any newer phones, even if you will add large internal memory ( like 16GB ) add also a microSD slot, it's a must, and AFAIK missing the microSD will mean no USB-OTG Mass Storage...
2- Support WiFi Direct

I don't know if you're aware, but when ICS comes to the arc, or any other device with buttons, the soft buttons are disabled and it functions as normal.
Also the ICS themes for 2.3 are not at all a fair indication of the user experience. Most of the joy of ICS is its the first version of android with some degree of descent UI consistency.
I agree, the SE overlay is the best android 2.3 interface around. But android 2.3 UI sucked, it was a mess of aged, inconsistent graphics design. Sony took it and built an aged looking but more consistent UI design. Google have actually gone and made a stock UI in ICS that looks stylish enough to stand out in this world of simple, modern interface design.
But as I said, each to their own I guess I for one will be updating as soon as possible, ICS brings so many great new features to the table, as long as Sony doesn't spoil them, I think it's going to be a great update
Sent from my LT15i

Why MOTOBLUR Sucks?

I've been using Android for just a week. My first android is Motorola Atrix.
I haven't used any other Android set. So I can't compare which is better. Besides, I've read so many many bad/worst reviews of Motoblur! Why MOTOBLUR Sucks?

It doesn't, but that's my opinion. And trust me, our opinion is the minority. I run stock 2.3.4 rooted with all system apps frozen, but i leave blur as is. It's never bothered me. Love the messaging app, the universal inbox, the connected music player, the built in photo editor, the call log and contact list, and the dialer.
Once you unlock bootloader and root, remove all the preloaded apps, switch your kernel, apply a theme, flash the new radio...it's amazing. Lots of people started out on either Sense [HTC] or vanilla android so for them there's not going back
me, it's the other way around, I started on blur and go to vanilla or sense and I'm like "what? where is this supposed to be?" And I don't see why they hate blur still, the atrix version is so much lighter than the original, the launcher is tiny, the UI is so much more clean..

againareku said:
Once you unlock bootloader and root, remove all the preloaded apps, switch your kernel, apply a theme, flash the new radio...it's amazing. Lots of people started out on either Sense [HTC] or vanilla android so for them there's not going back
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Rooted & will soon unlock the bootloader. I've plan to install CM7 once it gets stable releases. BTW whats the radio thing?

The Blur sucks, coz' it sucks....
Just as the TouchWiz sucks, and the LG interface sucks....
The only UI that works good is the Sense, and its problem that it is heavy like a fat lady! Only if you have a strong device it will not interfere with the normal use, otherwise it will cause lags and so.
I personally prefer vanilla roms on all the above, it is the best and lightest of all. and adding to it the Go Launcher will yield a superfast device with all the goods from all the other UI.
Again this is my personal thoughts, it doesnt necessarily means it right, just that it is what I like

saiftheboss7 said:
Rooted & will soon unlock the bootloader. I've plan to install CM7 once it gets stable releases. BTW whats the radio thing?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Unlock the bootloader first
then you want to do with kernel, I switched from faux to clemsyn because of the lag [but both are great, try both, run your own tests and pick which one works best]
Remember with the kernels pick the enhance 1.0 ghz for att, not the cm7 ones
the radio is in the fruit cake thread, look up the 2.3.5 one and flash it, should help with wifi wake and signal...since you are clean I would go ahead and do the whole 2.3.5 fruit cake
I'm in the minority of opinion, but cm7 doesn't really add anything to the atrix. I use it on the backflip, the cliq xt, but I find it to be less responsive than stock and maybe it's just me but the image quality itself looks better on stock
the good thing is once you are unlocked and have the right recovery installed, switching between all of these is very easy, so whatever you like best shouldn't be hard to go back to

againareku said:
I'm in the minority of opinion, but cm7 doesn't really add anything to the atrix.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
O rly? That's the least informed opinion of CM I have ever heard.

saiftheboss7 said:
I've been using Android for just a week. My first android is Motorola Atrix.
I haven't used any other Android set. So I can't compare which is better. Besides, I've read so many many bad/worst reviews of Motoblur! Why MOTOBLUR Sucks?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Blur used to have a confusing and shockingly sluggish UI. However, with the 2.3 update Motorola completely redid blur and now its much better. Its still a little slower than vanilla, but its actually usable now. A lot of the hate was over the old version and what's left is from sense fanboys or people who hate skins in general.
Not saying there's anything wrong with that, I don't like manufacture skins myself.

Anybody knows how to erase a motoblur account? I don't use it anymore. Thanks.
Sent from my MB860 using XDA App

There is no right or wrong on this.
Just personal opinion, it is your phone after all you do what you want and set it up that best suites you.
I tend to go along with most of the other posters on this thread. I have used CM7 on HTC's and Samsung's as I really do not like their stock interfaces.
Before buying the Atrix I thought Blur would be the same and on launch it was but we couldn't do a lot about it as we had a locked bootloader.
By the time CM7 was launched we had a few ROM's on Gingerbread and much to my surprise I tend to find myself using Blurred ROM's in preference to CM7. This is by no way knocking CM7 as it is fantastic and the work the Dev's on here have put into it is awesome but for me there are upsides to Blur.
The Social Messaging widget and all in one Messaging are things that I have become reliant on. SocialScope may provide an alternative to Social Messaging but it isn't as yet as well crafted.
Do I have a backed up copy of CM7 on my SD Card ? Of course. I switch regularly but Blurred Aura is my daily driver.
Remember that we are the vast minority of people that have this phone and there are thousands of people out there that running stock happily. That is fine you seem to be bitten by the same bug that others that visit and post here though in wanting to see what the device is capable of. Do that but remember it is your phone and your set up is yours. Doesn't matter what opinion I hold or anybody else.

Yeah one thing is for sure! The old backflip blur was completely horrible but the newer atrix blur really is a hell of a lot better! I think basically everyone has gotta admit that! Blur has definetly improved since its inception! I dealt with the old blur and it sucked bad!!
As far as cm7 or blur?? I use both. I keep a nandroid backup of darkside with a little blur and cm7 and switch between them depending what I have need for at the moment. I like having all options available.

The older MotoBlur that was included on the phone when it first rolled out did suck. Badly. But with the 2.3.4 update Motorola toned Blur down. At least visually. And in my experience the new version doesn't impact the battery as bad as the last one did. It is now easier to use and looks more 'Android'. I was a Blur hater. But now I am good with it.
Apologies to the op for this. I'm not trying to hijack the thread or change focus. But I am positively curious.
And, I know that this is a loaded question, and that I am asking for some serious CM7 user backlash type trouble by posting it... But wth, I'll bite.
WiredPirate said:
O rly? That's the least informed opinion of CM I have ever heard.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
What exactly does CM7 add to the Atrix? I mean, really add. Unless they've turned on the fm radio or something...
Just to clarify, I've got Cyanogen on 3 devices. I also used to have it on my Atrix. But with the 2.3.4 update the new MotoBlur Gingerbread style was great enough for me especially with the revamp of Blur that I didn't go back. And so far the only device that has had a new, originally unsupported, feature magically appear because I installed CM7, is my Nook Color. And boy did it ever ADD features!
But my phones... not so much. Mainly kinda lose stuff. But it was so worth it to get rid on that HORRID htc sense ui on the Aria. And in fairness I did get fm radio on my Backflip, so I guess it is two devices that got some added features. Although it did lose the trackpad. So that's kinda even. But my Atrix only lost stuff. Nothing new. So, out of genuine curiosity, what did I miss????
I look forward to reading an answer. It has the potential to make me consider flashing CM7 again, depends on what has been 'added'.

JdgM3NT4L said:
The older MotoBlur that was included on the phone when it first rolled out did suck. Badly. But with the 2.3.4 update Motorola toned Blur down. At least visually. And in my experience the new version doesn't impact the battery as bad as the last one did. It is now easier to use and looks more 'Android'. I was a Blur hater. But now I am good with it.
Apologies to the op for this. I'm not trying to hijack the thread or change focus. But I am positively curious.
And, I know that this is a loaded question, and that I am asking for some serious CM7 user backlash type trouble by posting it... But wth, I'll bite.
What exactly does CM7 add to the Atrix? I mean, really add. Unless they've turned on the fm radio or something...
Just to clarify, I've got Cyanogen on 3 devices. I also used to have it on my Atrix. But with the 2.3.4 update the new MotoBlur Gingerbread style was great enough for me especially with the revamp of Blur that I didn't go back. And so far the only device that has had a new, originally unsupported, feature magically appear because I installed CM7, is my Nook Color. And boy did it ever ADD features!
But my phones... not so much. Mainly kinda lose stuff. But it was so worth it to get rid on that HORRID htc sense ui on the Aria. And in fairness I did get fm radio on my Backflip, so I guess it is two devices that got some added features. Although it did lose the trackpad. So that's kinda even. But my Atrix only lost stuff. Nothing new. So, out of genuine curiosity, what did I miss????
I look forward to reading an answer. It has the potential to make me consider flashing CM7 again, depends on what has been 'added'.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Notification bar switches
Lockscreen option
Audio options
Performance options/enhancements
Comes free of bloatwear
Application permission filtering
Tweaks to UI
Oh and a trackpad (use of fingerprint reader as navigation trackpad on weekly 2&3)

@OP Use another Android device or 2 and you'll see why MOTOBLUR SUCKS!
First its the only software that's an absolute SLOTH. The bloat eats memory and slows down a dual core to single core at times.
Second Motoblur tries to control too much on MY PHONE. Whoyle I have to create a Moroblur account in order to receive software upgrades? Why should I have to enter a password into my phone if I change my SIM?
This will be my one and only Motoblur phone. If Motorola drops the MB BS, then I'm completely on board. If not, pass...
Sent from my GT-I9000 using xda premium

ccrows said:
@OP Use another Android device or 2 and you'll see why MOTOBLUR SUCKS!
First its the only software that's an absolute SLOTH. The bloat eats memory and slows down a dual core to single core at times.
Second Motoblur tries to control too much on MY PHONE. Whoyle I have to create a Moroblur account in order to receive software upgrades? Why should I have to enter a password into my phone if I change my SIM?
This will be my one and only Motoblur phone. If Motorola drops the MB BS, then I'm completely on board. If not, pass...
Sent from my GT-I9000 using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You said it yourself, the bloat eats memory
The bloat is put there by AT&T not Motorola. With everything unessential frozen idle I have 500-600 mb free ram
And the motoblur account is for universal inbox, social media intergration, and FREE security features [that you would otherwise pay for $2-$10 a month]
It's as stupid about complaining that you need to sign up for a google account to download apps, use the google nav, or check your gmail

I'm waiting for CM7 stable release! Can't wait to put it on my phone!
btw I like the stock 2.3.4 ROM also!

saiftheboss7 said:
I'm waiting for CM7 stable release! Can't wait to put it on my phone!
btw I like the stock 2.3.4 ROM also!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If your BL is unlocked you can try the weekly from the 23/11, its very stable and has nice features (FP scanner workes for unlock and as trackball).
here is the link:
http://code.google.com/p/atrix-dev-team/downloads/list
Have fun

Well.....Blur does suck harder than a collapsed star...but it has some useful things to it including social media,ofcourse I don't use any of that so I went over to CM7.Blur is just really slow and bloated especially when you don't want to use any of the included apps and stuff,now if you love the features blur brings then by all means stay there then but if you want a stock android experience and want performance at the cost of a few apps here and there try some of the de-blurred roms or maybe cm7 if you want extra goodies

JdgM3NT4L said:
What exactly does CM7 add to the Atrix? I mean, really add. Unless they've turned on the fm radio or something...
Just to clarify, I've got Cyanogen on 3 devices. I also used to have it on my Atrix. But with the 2.3.4 update the new MotoBlur Gingerbread style was great enough for me especially with the revamp of Blur that I didn't go back. And so far the only device that has had a new, originally unsupported, feature magically appear because I installed CM7, is my Nook Color. And boy did it ever ADD features!
But my phones... not so much. Mainly kinda lose stuff. But it was so worth it to get rid on that HORRID htc sense ui on the Aria. And in fairness I did get fm radio on my Backflip, so I guess it is two devices that got some added features. Although it did lose the trackpad. So that's kinda even. But my Atrix only lost stuff. Nothing new. So, out of genuine curiosity, what did I miss????
I look forward to reading an answer. It has the potential to make me consider flashing CM7 again, depends on what has been 'added'.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Just a teaser of what CM REALLY ADDS to the Atrix:
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
btw I took this screenshot with CM natively by holding down the 'power' button, no third party app needed.

If MOTOBLUR sucked any harder, I'd orgasm.
Sent from my MB860 using XDA App

againareku said:
You said it yourself, the bloat eats memory
The bloat is put there by AT&T not Motorola. With everything unessential frozen idle I have 500-600 mb free ram
And the motoblur account is for universal inbox, social media intergration, and FREE security features [that you would otherwise pay for $2-$10 a month]
It's as stupid about complaining that you need to sign up for a google account to download apps, use the google nav, or check your gmail
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Funny that I don't have to deal with any of that BS on my SGS. I am the farthest thing from being a Samsung fanboy, and I use both of my phones equally. With that said, it's night and day difference of what goes on with both phones.
BTW I don't have AT&T I have Bell, and there's really not that much carrier bloat from them. The bloat that "was" there I have frozen with TiBu...
Sent from my MB860 using xda premium

Quite Disapointed with first ics leaks

I was expecting ICS was gonna be a huge difference on Note considering it's tablet and phone and ics is made with same motivation one os for both tablets and phones. I feel quite disapointed with first leak roms as you cannot even recognise it's brand new ics till u start surfing the menu. No goodies from ics at all except for the new settings menu and browser. I was expecting a Note specific touchwiz update with new ics upgrade to make most out of ics goodies. But new ics brings almost nothing new imao with old touchwiz interface which is basically same on all samsung android devices.

This isn't a nexus device.. why would it be any different from all other touchwiz devices?
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda premium

captainhakan said:
I was expecting ICS was gonna be a huge difference on Note considering it's tablet and phone and ics is made with same motivation one os for both tablets and phones. I feel quite disapointed with first leak roms as you cannot even recognise it's brand new ics till u start surfing the menu. No goodies from ics at all except for the new settings menu and browser. I was expecting a Note specific touchwiz update with new ics upgrade to make most out of ics goodies. But new ics brings almost nothing new imao with old touchwiz interface which is basically same on all samsung android devices.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Save your complaints for someone wgo cares to listen, or post it in the ics leaks thread
Sent from my GT-N7000 using xda premium

Because it's between phones and tablets. I would just like to see a touchwiz interface specific to note to include more goodies from tablet side. Touchwiz on Note as it is now is basically the same with touchwiz on Gio which has less then half the screen size. Wouldn't be great if at least we had a choice to fit more columns making icons smaller to make the most out of our huge screens ?

^ you can, its called LCD density. Rom Toolbox is the only tool that worked for me on the china ICS leak. As far as 5 rows, use a different launcher. TW is lame anyway.

A leak is a leak is a leak. It's not a finished ROM yet. Complaining about something that is unfinished that it's not yet fully functional and polished is... well, totally ignorant.

Go use Nova Launcher. And TW is meant to be simple. And judging from the sales of Samsung devices, a lot of people like TW, so it was a smart decision to modify it a little bit for ICS. Go rant somewhere else or keep it to yourself.
Sent from my GT-i9220 using Forum Runner

Don't really think its necessary to flame the OP for expressing an opinion! I too would prefer a more tablet orientated ROM, to differentiate this device with its resolution from a regular phone, as it stands its more like a big phone than a small tablet. A landscape capable launcher and a browser that can be set to desktop UA would be a start. And yes, of course we could install another launcher or another browser but that's hardly the point is it? Missing potential it is.

Clivectmob said:
Don't really think its necessary to flame the OP for expressing an opinion!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It's the tone in which he says that, almost like the leak should have already been complete and polished just to please him.
I too would prefer a more tablet orientated ROM, to differentiate this device with its resolution from a regular phone, as it stands its more like a big phone than a small tablet. A landscape capable launcher and a browser that can be set to desktop UA would be a start. And yes, of course we could install another launcher or another browser but that's hardly the point is it? Missing potential it is.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It is still possible Samsung will modify TouchWiz. They may have been busy with more important stuff, like e.g. making certain S Pen -- it is after all a major selling point of Note -- works well on ICS. Just give it some time. If it is still half-useable when the final ROM is released then you're free to complain.

Guess what, I bought mine cause I needed a new phone...
So it's perfect ;P

What lead you guys to believe it would be anything other than tw with ics menu. Once you install nova or something it gets a little better.
I'm waiting for tablet mode myself. I do wish that Samsung would have gave us the option to run phone or tablet mode.
I think they went above my expectations. Its better for a forest release than I thought. But I didn't expect galaxy nexus with tablet mode from a stock rom
Sent from my GT-I9220 using xda premium

captainhakan said:
I was expecting ICS was gonna be a huge difference on Note considering it's tablet and phone and ics is made with same motivation one os for both tablets and phones. I feel quite disapointed with first leak roms as you cannot even recognise it's brand new ics till u start surfing the menu. No goodies from ics at all except for the new settings menu and browser. I was expecting a Note specific touchwiz update with new ics upgrade to make most out of ics goodies. But new ics brings almost nothing new imao with old touchwiz interface which is basically same on all samsung android devices.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Currently, the Chinese ICS is the smoothest and arguably fastest ROM ever made for the Note. If you're complaining about the theme, go cook up some mods. I already made my ROM look like Nexus ICS.
Sent from my GT-I9220 using xda premium

As for a first of its kind. Can we agree its a food base from to build upon.
captainhakan said:
I was expecting ICS was gonna be a huge difference on Note considering it's tablet and phone and ics is made with same motivation one os for both tablets and phones. I feel quite disapointed with first leak roms as you cannot even recognise it's brand new ics till u start surfing the menu. No goodies from ics at all except for the new settings menu and browser. I was expecting a Note specific touchwiz update with new ics upgrade to make most out of ics goodies. But new ics brings almost nothing new imao with old touchwiz interface which is basically same on all samsung android devices.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sent from my GT-I9220 using xda premium

intruda119 said:
As for a first of its kind. Can we agree its a food base from to build upon.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Agreed. As pretty as ICS looks on the Nexus I would probably end up getting bored and changing it anyways. But, what I do know is that this leak could mean the countdown to CM9 (Arguably, the greatest custom ROM) for the Note has begun. That makes me smile.

as i predicted many people *****ing about the first leaked ics builds, people expected and wanted too much from a first release, seems people dont have the patience these days to wait for a stable build as they expected ics to be amazing
this is why a build probably hasnt been leaked before because it is full of bugs still that samsung are working out

With all my respect i kindly request ops to lock this thread as the conversation gone far away from what i meant at first place. I didn't "*****"(!!) about the leaks. I didn't complaint about the stability or performance of the leaks either. My intention was just to express that i would rather prefer to see an upgraded touchwiz specific to galaxy note. For instance phone mode ui when used in portrait mode and tablet like ui when turned into landscape mode.

^ It is still perfectly possible. This is only a preliminary leaks, after all, and as I said Samsung has likely had much more important things to do than to update TW. Will they actually update it or not? I do not know, we'll just have to wait and see.

intruda119 said:
I'm waiting for tablet mode myself. I do wish that Samsung would have gave us the option to run phone or tablet mode.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
There is SPB SHELL 3D , I also use it with my tab 8.9 [ ICS ROM]
You can find the option to run it in tablet mode or phone mode
Try it . works great with the NOTE and the ICS's leak
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}

also tried on my phone too.
works really well in tablet mode
+super smooth

pvillasuso said:
There is SPB SHELL 3D , I also use it with my tab 8.9 [ ICS ROM]
You can find the option to run it in tablet mode or phone mode
Try it . works great with the NOTE and the ICS's leak
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I never really liked SPB if I'm honest, Although that being said my favourite launcher so far has been Launcher 7.... So I guess my opinion doesn't matter.
In terms of ICS, All I expect is a better battery life and better performance.... From what I've heard from other devices they've all got this and it'd be great to see the note get even better through ICS.... I'm not a big Touchwiz fan so personally I prefer the stock ICS look but I guess ill just have to see....
Overall though, Its still a leak... more goodies when finished!!
And to everyone who flamed this thread.... We're all here together to try and help each other to improve our devices and our knowledge... Instead of "**** off" why not try and have a discussion on the matter... That way this community can do well