So after lurking in these forums for a few months, I've finally decided to put a different ROM on my MT4G, but it seems like most of the guides are out of date. Is it still OK to use Visionary if I'm going to flash to a Gingerbread-based ROM afterward? And if I want to use Good for Enterprise, what do I use to unroot and re-root any of the ROMs that are pre-rooted to begin with? I'm not afraid to tinker, but this is my first Android phone and I don't want to get it wrong. Help?
The ROM that you're going to flash has absolutely nothing to do with the ROM you currently have - and the ROM you currently have (and nothing else) has everything to do with the rooting method.
I guess what I'm trying to ask is do I need to perm root the current ROM in order to flash the device to a different ROM?
xdre said:
I guess what I'm trying to ask is do I need to perm root the current ROM in order to flash the device to a different ROM?
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You are going to need perm root
More information on perm vs temp see here (or use google search)
There are a couple guides on how to gain perm root (click on the link in my sig for a list of a few guides under the "Rooting" section of the resource bible)
I personally used the terminal emulator version of this method when rooting my mt4g
Once you achieve S=Off and permroot your phone, there is no need to do it from ROM to ROM. Your phone will remain rooted until you decide to unroot it.
Ok, thanks! Will give it a try tomorrow.
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Next question... Now that I've perm rooted, tried a few ROMs, and settled on one (Generation-X stock), does anyone know if Gingerbreak works to re-root the device if I were to unroot this ROM (in order to use Good for Enterprise)? I'd hate to back myself into a corner I can't get out of...
When you have custom recovery installed, you're not dependent on the OS at all.
Flashing SU update.zip will root you.
Nice! Thanks for the info!
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I have an Eris running 2.1 OTA. I want to be able to overclock it, which obviously requires root, but I do not want to install a custom ROM. I want to continue running 2.1 OTA. Is this possible?
Based on what I've read, I figured it might be.
1) I thought I could follow the instructions in "I. Gaining root" at the Walkthrough thread on this site to root the phone. Simply rooting does not modify or wipe the 2.1 OTA ROM, correct? So I could be root but still running 2.1 OTA.
2) Flash the kernel-overclock-update-v3.zip found in the "Overclocking Patch and update.zip" thread on this site, which would modify the kernel so I can O/C.
3) Install and use setCPU.
Any reason this would not work or would be a bad idea? I'm generally computer savvy but have not rooted a phone before.
As mentioned above, I want to be running stock 2.1 OTA (or as close to it as possible, because I want the stability) simply with the ability to overclock.
Thanks!
Now someone here correct me if I'm wrong, but this is the way I understand the rooting process...
When you obtain root, you flash over your 2.1 OTA, and don't have that anymore. What you're flashing is a pre-rooted ROM with an old 2.1. You absolutely want to flash something else once you install the recovery image. If you want a ROM that's as close to stock OTA as possilble while still being able to overclock, I recommend this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=652044 (or, actually, this one is closer to stock: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=685581)
Also, ensure that you can root in the first place... check your HBOOT version.
If you were to only root, you'd no longer be running OTA, since the root is itself a leak.
jcase's Plain Jane is based on the OTA and is probably what you're looking for.
No, you cannot do that. Rooting isn't simply turning on a switch, it's replacing the entire ROM.
chrikenn said:
I have an Eris running 2.1 OTA. I want to be able to overclock it, which obviously requires root, but I do not want to install a custom ROM. I want to continue running 2.1 OTA. Is this possible?
Based on what I've read, I figured it might be.
1) I thought I could follow the instructions in "I. Gaining root" at the Walkthrough thread on this site to root the phone. Simply rooting does not modify or wipe the 2.1 OTA ROM, correct? So I could be root but still running 2.1 OTA.
2) Flash the kernel-overclock-update-v3.zip found in the "Overclocking Patch and update.zip" thread on this site, which would modify the kernel so I can O/C.
3) Install and use setCPU.
Any reason this would not work or would be a bad idea? I'm generally computer savvy but have not rooted a phone before.
As mentioned above, I want to be running stock 2.1 OTA (or as close to it as possible, because I want the stability) simply with the ability to overclock.
Thanks!
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Plain Jane ROM posted on this Forum would be ideal then I think
Ok, thanks for the information. I didn't realize that rooting itself replaced the stock ROM.
If you gave me your phone, I could root it and hand it back to you and with the "right" ROM, you'd be none the wiser.
Why are you afraid to use a custom ROM ? Ivan's, for example, is essentially a tweaked version of HTC/VZW's current Eris ROM.
I'm afraid to use a custom ROM because my instinct is that a custom ROM would be less stable than the default 2.1 OTA. This is my wife's phone, so stability is key.
But the ROMs that are essentially the same as the 2.1 OTA would presumably be essentially just as stable as the 2.1 OTA, so maybe I will give it a whirl.
so i just got a replcemnt htc eris and it came w/the 2.1 already on it...so is there a way for me to get a custom rom on it????and if so what do i have to do
drayon07 said:
so i just got a replcemnt htc eris and it came w/the 2.1 already on it...so is there a way for me to get a custom rom on it????and if so what do i have to do
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=684049
Can't install custom kernal without root and can't root without stock 1.5. No root for ota yet
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thanks but which one do i select because i already have the 2.1 on my phone and the link was mainly talking about putting it on there if you didnt have it
thanks but which one do i select because i already have the 2.1 on my phone and the link was mainly talking about putting it on there if you didnt have it
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You can't root because your phone has 2.1. Therefore you cannot use custom Rom or kernel. Sorry
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denonlake said:
You can't root because your phone has 2.1. Therefore you cannot use custom Rom or kernel. Sorry
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Where have you been???? You can root 2.1 OTA, just not any of the leaks. The instructions are the same for 2.1 as for 1.5. Again, you can root 2.1 OTA just not the leaks.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=681648
and that is just one of many threads talking about rooting the OTA
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Where have you been???? You can root 2.1 OTA, just not any of the leaks. The instructions are the same for 2.1 as for 1.5. Again, you can root 2.1 OTA just not the leaks.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=681648
and that is just one of many threads talking about rooting the OTA
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Yes, the 2.1 OTA update is rootable. The 2.1 OTA update does not change the bootloader which allows for rooting.
However, those that got a refurbished device from Verizon with 2.1 may or may not be able to root. It has been said that some of the refurbished units have come back with the newer non-rootable bootloader.
There is an entire thread about this at the following link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=688898
[Q] I used z4 and did "Permanent root". Does that mean I can flash custom ROMs now?
I used z4 and did "Permanent root". Does that mean I can flash custom ROMs now?
I am still running the Verizon stock rom for the DroidX. It is nice, but I want to explore the other custom options out there. What do I need to do in addition to rooting I guess, is my real question. And is the z4 root method sufficient, it was just one click and a reboot, but I do have superuser abilities now.
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I used z4 and did "Permanent root". Does that mean I can flash custom ROMs now?
I am still running the Verizon stock rom for the DroidX. It is nice, but I want to explore the other custom options out there. What do I need to do in addition to rooting I guess, is my real question. And is the z4 root method sufficient, it was just one click and a reboot, but I do have superuser abilities now.
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yes z4 root is sufficient as far as rooting goes ,now install rom manager and koush bootstrap recovery from the market ,they are free,as far as deodex you shouldnt have to worry about it since most roms will deodex for you when they install,but if you want to just place a theme without placing a rom then you will have to deodex first since the rom is not there to do it for you first.i would suggest reading this and get a better understanding
http://androidforums.com/droid-x-al...ing-custom-rom-theme-how-unbrick-droid-x.html
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yes z4 root is sufficient as far as rooting goes ,now install rom manager and koush bootstrap recovery from the market ,they are free,as far as deodex you shouldnt have to worry about it since most roms will deodex for you when they install,but if you want to just place a theme without placing a rom then you will have to deodex first since the rom is not there to do it for you first.i would suggest reading this and get a better understanding
http://androidforums.com/droid-x-al...ing-custom-rom-theme-how-unbrick-droid-x.html
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thanks budby
thanks, i was wondering about this too.
okay for some reason when i use z4 to root the temporary root works perfectly fine but obviously unroots after a reboot when i do try to permanent root it reboots the phone and doesnt install root even tho it said it did any help would be greatly appreciated also using a stock HTC EVO 4G
djnarcotics said:
okay for some reason when i use z4 to root the temporary root works perfectly fine but obviously unroots after a reboot when i do try to permanent root it reboots the phone and doesnt install root even tho it said it did any help would be greatly appreciated also using a stock HTC EVO 4G
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You might wanna use Unrevoked to root your device. Also, this is the Droid X forum, head over to the Evo section and there's loads of helpful information over there, including how to root using Unrevoked.
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Hi,
Before upgrading to Gingerbread, I would like to know if the root
for Gingerbread is working fine and if the phone is, after being rooted , stable.
Daniel
If anyone wants to give this a bash you could try Gingerbreak:
NB. Your phone MUST already have S-OFF if you don't want to have to downgrade first.!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1044765
I think you need to downgrade again before you can root your phone.
But in the development section there are stock 2.3 roms with root. Probably that's the right thing for you
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Hi guys. I installed the gingerbreak apk & ran it.
It said it didn't work so I ok'd it & exited the app without rebooting.
I opened gingerbreak again & it asked if I would allow super user permission. I said yes.
Is this when I downgrade? Or can I just put new ROM on sdcard and boot into bootloader & flash it?
Sorry guys, all this is pretty complex stuff to me
Hi Folks.
For me Gingerbreak ran flawlessly.
Came from stock rom 1.32.405.6 rooted. ENG. & Radio S-off.
Installed Stock Gingerbread OTA.
Set USB debugging on.
Download & install superuser from market.
Download & install Gingerbreak.
Run Gingerbreak.
Choose "Root device"
Done!
Took about 5 min. Not counting OTA upd. of course.
Regards.
ELO
I installed the gingerbreak apk & ran it.
Gingerbreak rebooted my device but it is still not rooted.
I have S-OFF, USB debugging on and have ibstalled Superuser.
I have tried it twice.
Any idea what to do?
I have just noticed that after having upgraded to Gingerbread, My phone became S-On . This is the reason why I can't root my phone
Daniel
problem with s-off
I have problems with the s-off procedure after upgrading to android 2.3 official.
Gingrbreak works and permits rooting programs, but I'm not able to flash any otrher rom.
Any ideas? What am I doing wrong?
Thank you
How to upgrade to gingerbread
Hello all
I am very new to these rooting/upgrading the mobile.
I have a DesireHD, i wanted to upgrade to gingerbread with a custom ROM.
Can someone tell me the procedure to upgrade.
Thanks
Satya
sathyaac said:
Hello all
I am very new to these rooting/upgrading the mobile.
I have a DesireHD, i wanted to upgrade to gingerbread with a custom ROM.
Can someone tell me the procedure to upgrade.
Thanks
Satya
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The information you need can easily be found in the guides on the forum, there is no need for us to hold your hand and guide you step-by-step through the whole procedure. That's what the guides are for. You need to educate yourself a bit as rooting and flashing etc. are for users with atleast some experience. We're not using iPhones here where iTunes and Apple do everything for you. This might sound a bit harsh but there are tons of people filling the forum and asking for other members here to practically do everything for them. I suggest that until you understand what rooting and flashing involves, you stay away from it.
Here's something to get you going: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=936214
To obtain s-off and root with gingerbreak, these is the steps to do in order?
Root visionary-> S-off-> (Eng-off??) -> Gingerbreak, and finally clockwork recovery
But visionary is working with 2.3.3 stock htc?
jackalac said:
To obtain s-off and root with gingerbreak, these is the steps to do in order?
Root visionary-> S-off-> (Eng-off??) -> Gingerbreak, and finally clockwork recovery
But visionary is working with 2.3.3 stock htc?
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Check the link that I posted earlier...
ajay83 said:
Hi guys. I installed the gingerbreak apk & ran it.
It said it didn't work so I ok'd it & exited the app without rebooting.
I opened gingerbreak again & it asked if I would allow super user permission. I said yes.
Is this when I downgrade? Or can I just put new ROM on sdcard and boot into bootloader & flash it?
Sorry guys, all this is pretty complex stuff to me
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You actually rooted it when it asked for Super User permission, when it didn't ask the first time around, that's because SuperUser was installed by GingerBreak.
Hey there, my friend has a shift and has not updated it to GB. He wants it rooted and I want to do it for him. I am good with the HBOOT and flashing roms with HTC. I was just wondering if there are any rooted stock roms or any rooted kernals I could flash without having to go thru one of those rooting programs. Much more comfortable flashing from Hboot lol.
THANKS
how to root " RUU_Speedy_S_Sprint_WWE_2.76.651.4_Radio_1.08.00.0 506_NV_SPCS_1.88"
If he is still on the shipped 2.2 ROM then you can use the perm root instructions found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=932153and then use rom manager to flash your recovery and there are optimized stock ROMS like MikShift V1.1 and BCnice20 has some great kernels.
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chef2 said:
Hey there, my friend has a shift and has not updated it to GB. He wants it rooted and I want to do it for him. I am good with the HBOOT and flashing roms with HTC. I was just wondering if there are any rooted stock roms or any rooted kernals I could flash without having to go thru one of those rooting programs. Much more comfortable flashing from Hboot lol.
THANKS
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These might help you out. Seems a little intimidating a first, but read it through a few times. ou should be able to do it no issues. Here's a few links that should help walk you through attaining root.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=932153
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=934165
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1005133
This last link is for a sort of automated way of gaining root. I have used it with, and it works. But I still prefer the long method of rooting.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=976605
I think he's asking if there are any roms he can flash through HBOOT instead of using a recovery. And the answer would be no. Are you scared to flash a recovery? Its easy as pie.
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Hello peeps,
is this impossible? Im a noob and Im trying to install the 4.54 rom update on my EVO 4G (and trying to get my post count up. lol)
Yes its impossible to do without rooting. The only thing you can do is accept the ota. Or you can root and do anything you want. Its not hard. Just read read read. And ask for some help if needed. There's a whole thread in the dev section specifically for first timers
We're comin from a pure power source.
Rooting is eliminating the need to do anything you do not want to. Without it, you can not uninstall bloatware, cool apps, install one of dozens of great ROMs for your viewing pleasure.
You can not install a custom ROM without being rooted.
Technically you can. If you acheive s-off on your phone then you can flash a recovery. And s-off isnt root. It's just and unlocked bootloader. Once you have an unlocked bootloader then like i said you can flash a recovery image then install a rom. Heres a link on how to get s-off! revolutionary.io
Good luck!
dope. I'll try these methods.. but Im not rooting my phone