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confused about rooting

I really would like the ability to completely backup my Evo, wipe batt stats, clear caches, wifi tether, and some other things but I DONT WANT A CUSTOM ROM.
i am perfectly happy with stock sprint rom.
everywere i read about rooting the way the tutorials are worded they make it sound like you have to use a custom rom...
id like to use unrEVOked.
could someone help me out, thanks...

I used unrEVOked Forever and rooted my phone. It was easy and quick. It rooted it and kept the stock rom. I used it for like 2 weeks then decided I would try Warm. If you use unrEVOked, it should keep the stock rom and be rooted. After that, it's your choice to swap roms. I like Warm because it has the stock Sprint hotspot enabled.

parker81 said:
I really would like the ability to completely backup my Evo, wipe batt stats, clear caches, wifi tether, and some other things but I DONT WANT A CUSTOM ROM.
i am perfectly happy with stock sprint rom.
everywere i read about rooting the way the tutorials are worded they make it sound like you have to use a custom rom...
id like to use unrEVOked.
could someone help me out, thanks...
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You can do all of that and still use a stock ROM.

You don't have to use a custom rom unrevoked installs a stock rooted and you can still update it ota but you loose root if you do custom roms sometimes add some tweaks and functionality that you don't get from stock so they are worth looking at.
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m4rk0358 said:
You can do all of that and still use a stock ROM.
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thanks guys for the super fast replies...
i can just use unrEVOked3 right?
it sounds like unrEVOked forever is geared more towards someone want to use custom roms...
i also found this tut..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXWm8262iMU&annotation_id=annotation_81633&feature=iv

Use unrevoked forever after unrevoked 3 so you have nand unlocked to do the full backups the other reason is you can get root back slot easier after update
Sent from my warmed up evo

firestetz said:
Use unrevoked forever after unrevoked 3 so you have nand unlocked to do the full backups the other reason is you can get root back slot easier after update
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i have to use both?

No. Unrevoked3 unlocks nand. I only used that and I've flashed several custom ROMs.
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TheMagicalSock said:
No. Unrevoked3 unlocks nand. I only used that and I've flashed several custom ROMs.
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Your right it does but if you read on just about any forum here it's not a full unlock but by using unrevoked forever you get s-off or security-off which when you're talking about stock rooted lets you upgrade and root without waiting for someone else to produce a stock rooted update rom.
Sent from my warmed up evo

[Q]Can you downgrade from Android 2.3?

Has anyone been able to downgrade Android 2.3 back to 2.2?
People are trying to downgrade their phones back to 2.2 and use one of the rooting methods, because none of them will work an Android 2.3.
I've heard that some, but very few people, have been able to do it by running an RUU back to stock. There has to be a reason why some have been able to downgrade, but not others. It seems that if the phone has never been rooted, then it cannot be done (downgraded or rooted). That may be because the bootloader is S-ON.
My question is, if the phone was previously rooted, then unrooted, then updated to Android 2.3, if the phone is somehow downgraded using an RUU, is it only because the phone is still S-OFF, or some other reason?
I already know how to root it if the phone is still S-OFF and was updated to 2.3. The question is still, if the phone is successfully downgraded using an RUU back to Android 2.2 stock (with hopes of rerooting), is it because the bootloader is still S-OFF?
These questions are really more to help others than they are for me because too many people are trying unsuccessfully to downgrade their phone in the hopes of rerooting. If there are no good answers, then obviously downgrading will not be the route to take.
(AND YES, MOST OF THEM SHOULD NOT HAVE UNROOTED, but everyone makes mistakes.)

shortydoggg said:
Has anyone been able to downgrade Android 2.3 back to 2.2?
People are trying to downgrade their phones back to 2.2 and use one of the rooting methods, because none of them will work an Android 2.3.
I've heard that some, but very few people, have been able to do it by running an RUU back to stock. There has to be a reason why some have been able to downgrade, but not others. It seems that if the phone has never been rooted, then it cannot be done (downgraded or rooted). That may be because the bootloader is S-ON.
My question is, if the phone was previously rooted, then unrooted, then updated to Android 2.3, if the phone is somehow downgraded using an RUU, is it only because the phone is still S-OFF, or some other reason?
I already know how to root it if the phone is still S-OFF and was updated to 2.3. The question is still, if the phone is successfully downgraded using an RUU back to Android 2.2 stock (with hopes of rerooting), is it because the bootloader is still S-OFF?
These questions are really more to help others than they are for me because too many people are trying unsuccessfully to downgrade their phone in the hopes of rerooting. If there are no good answers, then obviously downgrading will not be the route to take.
(AND YES, MOST OF THEM SHOULD NOT HAVE UNROOTED, but everyone makes mistakes.)
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Good question but its posted like a million times with no definitive answer. And yes alooooooot of people have made mistakes...lol
Sent from my EVO rocking Evervolv Gingerbread

Yes, they are only able to downgrade because their phone is already unlocked with s-off.
Its really a waste of time tbh, all you have to do is flash a recovery and you're done.
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How would I flash the recovery?

kleintools said:
How would I flash the recovery?
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Look on the dev forum for RA recovery or clockwork recovery. Both of them include a way to flash them via bootloader menu on the evo.
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fenixjn said:
Look on the dev forum for RA recovery or clockwork recovery. Both of them include a way to flash them via bootloader menu on the evo.
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Only if its S off
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[Q] Flashing ROM for the first time: Temp root or perm root? (GFE question too)

So after lurking in these forums for a few months, I've finally decided to put a different ROM on my MT4G, but it seems like most of the guides are out of date. Is it still OK to use Visionary if I'm going to flash to a Gingerbread-based ROM afterward? And if I want to use Good for Enterprise, what do I use to unroot and re-root any of the ROMs that are pre-rooted to begin with? I'm not afraid to tinker, but this is my first Android phone and I don't want to get it wrong. Help?

The ROM that you're going to flash has absolutely nothing to do with the ROM you currently have - and the ROM you currently have (and nothing else) has everything to do with the rooting method.

I guess what I'm trying to ask is do I need to perm root the current ROM in order to flash the device to a different ROM?

xdre said:
I guess what I'm trying to ask is do I need to perm root the current ROM in order to flash the device to a different ROM?
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You are going to need perm root
More information on perm vs temp see here (or use google search)
There are a couple guides on how to gain perm root (click on the link in my sig for a list of a few guides under the "Rooting" section of the resource bible)
I personally used the terminal emulator version of this method when rooting my mt4g

Once you achieve S=Off and permroot your phone, there is no need to do it from ROM to ROM. Your phone will remain rooted until you decide to unroot it.

Ok, thanks! Will give it a try tomorrow.
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Next question... Now that I've perm rooted, tried a few ROMs, and settled on one (Generation-X stock), does anyone know if Gingerbreak works to re-root the device if I were to unroot this ROM (in order to use Good for Enterprise)? I'd hate to back myself into a corner I can't get out of...

When you have custom recovery installed, you're not dependent on the OS at all.
Flashing SU update.zip will root you.

Nice! Thanks for the info!

[Q] Upgrading back to Stock 2.3.4 while keeping S-Off and Rooted

Ok over the past 2 days I have searched over almost every single thread on the MY Touch 4g forums and can not seem to find a definite answer on this question:
Is there any way to take a rooted S-OFF, the Engineering HBoot & the ClockworkMod Recovery, 2.2.1 Stock build using the instructions on cyanogenmod.com/wiki/HTC_Glacier:_Full_Update_Guide and upgrade it back to the Stock t-mobile 2.3.4 build without unrooting etc?
I am not overly interested in installing cm7, although I did have a great experience with it on my t-mobile HD2 before the screen decided to stop working for the 2nd time. I actually did enjoy using the stock 2.3.4 build on the mt4g but would like to have more power over my phone (such as changing the hosts files to get rid of ads, remove bloatware apps I'm not interested in myself, etc).
All threads I have read more or less say once you downgrade, root and install clockwork recovery to install a rom of your choice, well I would like that rom to be the stock 2.3.4 build. Other threads state that in order to install the 2.3.4 build you need to install using the bootloader(which would unroot your phone) and not clockwork recovery.
If someone could please point me in the right direction to accomplish this goal you will seriously make my day/night/week/month.
If something is in the works that's great, I'm willing to wait it out. If this is a completely impossible goal so be it, I'll use CM7 mod.

kearnsy said:
Ok over the past 2 days I have searched over almost every single thread on the MY Touch 4g forums and can not seem to find a definite answer on this question:
Is there any way to take a rooted S-OFF, the Engineering HBoot & the ClockworkMod Recovery, 2.2.1 Stock build using the instructions on cyanogenmod.com/wiki/HTC_Glacier:_Full_Update_Guide and upgrade it back to the Stock t-mobile 2.3.4 build without unrooting etc?
I am not overly interested in installing cm7, although I did have a great experience with it on my t-mobile HD2 before the screen decided to stop working for the 2nd time. I actually did enjoy using the stock 2.3.4 build on the mt4g but would like to have more power over my phone (such as changing the hosts files to get rid of ads, remove bloatware apps I'm not interested in myself, etc).
All threads I have read more or less say once you downgrade, root and install clockwork recovery to install a rom of your choice, well I would like that rom to be the stock 2.3.4 build. Other threads state that in order to install the 2.3.4 build you need to install using the bootloader(which would unroot your phone) and not clockwork recovery.
If someone could please point me in the right direction to accomplish this goal you will seriously make my day/night/week/month.
If something is in the works that's great, I'm willing to wait it out. If this is a completely impossible goal so be it, I'll use CM7 mod.
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just flash the rooted rom of the MT4G 2.3.4 update
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1264704
not sure how you missed it lol...
flash the rooted version in this thread.
flash via CLOCKWORKMOD RECOVERY.
hit the thanks button if i've helped

Wow... Seriously... 2 days of looking and how the hell do I miss that.
Seriously thanks, but I blame the title of that thread "T-Mobile myTouch 4G GB Upgrade (Rooted & Unrooted)" Should be a Sticky and renamed to something like READ HERE TO UPGRADE TO 2.3.4 ROOT & UNROOTED
Sigh, but seriously thanks.

kearnsy said:
Wow... Seriously... 2 days of looking and how the hell do I miss that.
Seriously thanks, but I blame the title of that thread "T-Mobile myTouch 4G GB Upgrade (Rooted & Unrooted)" Should be a Sticky and renamed to something like READ HERE TO UPGRADE TO 2.3.4 ROOT & UNROOTED
Sigh, but seriously thanks.
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lol it's ok, everyone makes mistakes

Going to install a custom rom, but how do I start?

So I finally decided to install a custom rom on my MyTouch 4G (HTC Glacier), and after a lot of research I found out that IceColdSandwich is probably the best one to use (can be found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1629962 )
First off: If there is a better 4.0.x rom out there and I haven't found it...PLEASE direct me to it!
But now I'm stuck. IceColdSandwich has no instructions on how to do this.
I am running the stock T-Mobile MyTouch 4G Gingerbread 2.3.4 with HTC Sense 2.1 and I haven't modified the phone in any way.
Now what to do? How to properly root it and how to install the rom?
I need step by step instructions otherwise I am likely going to screw up somewhere and I can't afford a new phone
So if anyone is willing to invest some time to help me please reply.
P.S.: What would be the best 4.1 (JellyBean) rom i should be keeping an eye on (as in what rom is most likely going to be the best choice to update to when it's ready)?

http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/HTC_Glacier:_Full_Update_Guide
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Use that guide to downgrade and root.
Once you are rooted with S-OFF and have a custom recovery installed, download your ROM of choice, reboot to recovery, make a nand backup, wipe data, cache and system (minimum) and install the zip from sd card.
Check out aospx.

estallings15 said:
Use that guide to downgrade and root.
Once you are rooted with S-OFF and have a custom recovery installed, download your ROM of choice, reboot to recovery, make a nand backup, wipe data, cache and system (minimum) and install the zip from sd card.
Check out aospx.
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What about the guide here? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858996
I can't see anything about a downgrade here.

Yes it will work...if your on froyo
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But you're not, so you'll need to downgrade to Froyo.

lsk91 said:
What about the guide here? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858996
I can't see anything about a downgrade here.
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http://bit.ly/PtomNy

lsk91 said:
What about the guide here? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858996
I can't see anything about a downgrade here.
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you must downgrade before rooting and upgrading ROMs. My phone is 2.3.4 when I bought it too and I tried many guides but it's just didn't work. Only downgrade to 2.2 makes it way to install other ROMs

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fulloflove said:
you must downgrade before rooting and upgrading ROMs. My phone is 2.3.4 when I bought it too and I tried many guides but it's just didn't work. Only downgrade to 2.2 makes it way to install other ROMs
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hi please help me i got a mytouch 4g with icecoldsandwich but is too many problems can you tell me how i put the original software please my e mail is [email protected] thank you so much

Google "mytouch 4g revert to stock".
Read.
Very complicated, I guess...