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high awake time since flash to DC

so ever snice i flashed my hero to damage 2.1 rom my awake time is always so high. its always only about 10 minutes BELOW he uptime. therefore, KILLING my battery life. =(

I've been running DC off and on for almost a month now and have had excellent battery life. My awake times fluctuate (right now I'm at 13:30 Up time and 8:37 Awake time) but it hasn't been crazy.
Just curious, what is considered a "good" awake time/up time ratio? Are there better numbers on any of the other ROMs?

before if flashed it. lets say my uptime would be 50 minutes. my awake time would prob only be 2 minutes if i didnt use my phone at all. but now that i flashed it, my uptime would be 50 minutes and my awake time will prob like 40 minutes.

The current Damage Control ROM is bugged and has an extremely strange wake lock issue. I'd suggest using Fresh ROM 2.0d until this is fixed.

is the freshrom 2.0 just like damagecontrol ? i mean i LOVE evertying about DC. i wouldnt want something so different.

Warrior 3000 said:
is the freshrom 2.0 just like damagecontrol ? i mean i LOVE evertying about DC. i wouldnt want something so different.
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it shouldnt be totally different, but even if it isn't it works...or you could live with your battery life.

I don't think it's the ROM. I am running DC 2.7.02 and right now my up time is 21:45 while my awake time is 2:48.
My battery life has been fantastic. Have you tried looking at various radios?

doojer said:
I don't think it's the ROM. I am running DC 2.7.02 and right now my up time is 21:45 while my awake time is 2:48.
My battery life has been fantastic. Have you tried looking at various radios?
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yea after a search...weird i didnt think it worked...i found that this complaint is on almost every rom by at least one person. There are quite a few fixes. biggest one is disabling stock messaging app if used and using handcent or chomp.
Also you can go to settings, about phone, battery, and see what is using the battery.
This isnt for you dooj just quoted on your statement.

Warrior 3000 said:
so ever since i flashed my hero to damage 2.1 rom my awake time is always so high. its always only about 10 minutes BELOW he uptime. therefore, KILLING my battery life. =(
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I had that happen recently to a friend. Try just doing a factory reset.
Settings -> privacy -> factory reset.
Your phone will still remain rooted and the rom will still remain too.
This fixed it for him.

how do i disable the stock messanger fully ?

Warrior 3000 said:
how do i disable the stock messanger fully ?
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go to messages, then press menu and go to setting. uncheck auto-retrieve, and uncheck received notifications.
edit* i did this to my wifes phone a few weeks ago as she was having a problem on another rom and her awake time still shows high but her battery is much better and she quit hitting me.

yeah i have thoese unchecked. everytime i open up advacned task killer i always see these apps running tho...
voicemail
clock
handcent
messages

Warrior 3000 said:
yeah i have thoese unchecked. everytime i open up advacned task killer i always see these apps running tho...
voicemail
clock
handcent
messages
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whats your time without signal? go to settings, about phone, battery, battery use and see whats using the battery and if click on the cell standby i think to see time without signal.
also go to menu, applications, running services, and see whats running and how long. stop the ones you dont use that have been running the entire time your phone was awake.

Warrior 3000 said:
how do i disable the stock messanger fully ?
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If you want to remove it, then at the windows command prompt assuming you have your SDK tools path set up correctly:
adb remount
adb shell
cd /system/app
rm [messaging app].apk
I dont know what the name of the messaging app is, but I think it might be Mms.apk You are at your own risk if that removes the wrong app.
You dont have to tecnically remove it. Just disable auto retrieve and notifications in that app.

jackal424 said:
If you want to remove it, then at the windows command prompt assuming you have your SDK tools path set up correctly:
adb remount
adb shell
cd /system/app
rm [messaging app].apk
I dont know what the name of the messaging app is, but I think it might be Mms.apk You are at your own risk if that removes the wrong app.
You dont have to tecnically remove it. Just disable auto retrieve and notifications in that app.
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It is mms.apk.
I have been running the stock messaging with no problems.
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whats your time without signal? go to settings, about phone, battery, battery use and see whats using the battery and if click on the cell standby i think to see time without signal.
also go to menu, applications, running services, and see whats running and how long. stop the ones you dont use that have been running the entire time your phone was awake.
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My time without signal is 0% or non-existant.
mrinehart93 said:
The current Damage Control ROM is bugged and has an extremely strange wake lock issue. I'd suggest using Fresh ROM 2.0d until this is fixed.
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As for the current Damage Control ROM having a wake-lock issue, what IS the latest version? I am running v2.07.2 (the one before the TrevE mod) and I have no wake-lock, random reboots, or time without signal.

I have not found it to be the rom that is keeping things awake technically. I have tried to figure this one out, and all I can say it seems to be tied to some apps that I have downloaded that starts to throw the awake issue off.
This has happened to me on all 2.1 roms.......after a couple weeks of downloading some apps.
I only use root explorer and mixzing for now and have not had a problem with just those two.
I think I even confirmed that Pac-man was keeping the phone awake, although this is probably not the only one.
anyway, hope it helps.

[q] a few questions (battery, missing market, fc youtube)

sorry if some of these questions have already been asked and answered. unfortunantely, my computer crashed due to a manufacturing flaw so I can only access google and this forum via my epic (which can be a pain sometimes). also, since heros threads are always deleted, I cannot ask these questions there. please, any feedback and help would greatly appreciated.
okay so I reflashed backed snack 1.6 w/ ultimate after testing some of the newest froyo builds. id rather wat until I get the official ota upgrade.
after reflashing 1.6 for some reason, android market doesn't appear to be installed. where can I download the application? I even tried reflashing 1.6 over itself but that didn't work.
also, I'm using the new gingerbread youtube but I signed in and now I get a constant fc when I try to open it. how can I fix this? if I can't, where can I download an earlier version of youtube?
another question. this time about battery. using 1.6 w/ ultimate, I get fairly decent battery. only problem is, my battery stats say that my display and standby are what is killing my battery the most. nothing ever runs in the background, every so often I unlock my phone to either check the time or texts or facebook real quick, brightness is on its lowest setting, silent mode, juicedefender running correctly (battery life: x1.56), no data running in the background, drm killed, battery calibrated and battery stats wiped, and everything else possible to to save battery.
and something I'm noticing now that the phone is charging, the battery is quite hot and I'm not even using the phone. it only overheats when its charging and I've also noticed that its only hot when I use certain roms/kernels. any insight on this issue? any way to monitor and regulate temperature?
once again, any help would be appreciated!
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Ill take a stab at these. Reason for you market not showing, can't say? Did you wipe 3 times before flashing bs 1.6?
Also never sign in on gingerbread youtube on 2.1 build. I don't think anyone has got that working yet. Simply clear the cache for youtube and you should be set.
Lastly, I don't know what to say about your bettery.. what do you have setcpu running at? Do you have profiles to lower your phones speed when in standby? Couldn't hurt to give it a shot.
Sorry about your computer, all my info is based on personal experience don't really have a "dev" type answer for ya. But hope some of this helps.
Goodluck!
Sent from my SPH-D700 using XDA App

skelit0r said:
Ill take a stab at these. Reason for you market not showing, can't say? Did you wipe 3 times before flashing bs 1.6?
Also never sign in on gingerbread youtube on 2.1 build. I don't think anyone has got that working yet. Simply clear the cache for youtube and you should be set.
Lastly, I don't know what to say about your bettery.. what do you have setcpu running at? Do you have profiles to lower your phones speed when in standby? Couldn't hurt to give it a shot.
Sorry about your computer, all my info is based on personal experience don't really have a "dev" type answer for ya. But hope some of this helps.
Goodluck!
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thank you for your reply.
yes I did wipe both data, cache, and davlik 3 times. I guess I will do that now and report back.
how would I go about clearing the cache for one specific app? I know I can do that when I open up my settings and go to app development but youtube doesn't show up in that list.
setpcu is oc at 1300 and uc at 200 conservative. profiles are as follows:
charging/full - 1000 and 200 conservative
battery < 15% - 800 and 400 conservative
screen off - 600 and 400 conservative
yeah, brand new computer too. all of a sudden it couldn't recognize the hard drive. and yes, most of my info is based on personal experience and creeping on forums.
edit: wiped everything 3 times and reflashed. market till not appear.
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For youtube I just open it up without a data connection and step through the process of signing out only enabling data when needed.
If you're missing market then you need to flash back stock with odin then start fresh. Baked doesn't remove market at all. If anything it's the fastest responding market I've used.
Heat from the battery is usually caused by programs requesting cycles or data. Just restart the phone before bed after your initial battery calibration.

nadcicle said:
For youtube I just open it up without a data connection and step through the process of signing out only enabling data when needed.
If you're missing market then you need to flash back stock with odin then start fresh. Baked doesn't remove market at all. If anything it's the fastest responding market I've used.
Heat from the battery is usually caused by programs requesting cycles or data. Just restart the phone before bed after your initial battery calibration.
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as I stated, I have no computer at the moment. so using odin to go back to stock is out of the question as of now. hopefully there's got to be another way without using odin. if not then I suppose I'm stuck in this predicament until I get my computer back from geek squad. and yes, I've never had a problem with heroes work before. but for some reason, this is happening.
and as I've stated before, no programs or data run in the background on my phone. after initial calibration I rebooted it. and after every boot, I toggle airplane mode on and then off. ill continue to moniter battery temps and see if the problem persists.
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fromchaos0646 said:
as I stated, I have no computer at the moment. so using odin to go back to stock is out of the question as of now. hopefully there's got to be another way without using odin. if not then I suppose I'm stuck in this predicament until I get my computer back from geek squad. and yes, I've never had a problem with heroes work before. but for some reason, this is happening.
and as I've stated before, no programs or data run in the background on my phone. after initial calibration I rebooted it. and after every boot, I toggle airplane mode on and then off. ill continue to moniter battery temps and see if the problem persists.
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Sorry bout that, I did read over that you hadn't had a computer. I overlooked it though. It just sounds like you might have somehow of gotten a corrupt install somehow.
Maybe you can try reinstalling 1.6 over top of itself. I don't really see anything wrong with that, but as stated before though. Make sure you wipe cache and dalvichk 3 times each before you do so.

nadcicle said:
Sorry bout that, I did read over that you hadn't had a computer. I overlooked it though. It just sounds like you might have somehow of gotten a corrupt install somehow.
Maybe you can try reinstalling 1.6 over top of itself. I don't really see anything wrong with that, but as stated before though. Make sure you wipe cache and dalvichk 3 times each before you do so.
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that's okay.
hm that might be what's wrong. ill download it again later. right now, I'm watching two dumbasses snort a line of fire ants on 1000 ways to die. xD (too lazy right now)
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Battery woes.... already?

I'm so confused.
Just got the mytouch 4g. Charged it, as it said in the book, until it was fully charged. Used it all day until it was drained and then recharged it this evening. Just looked at it now. In 5 hours since unplugging, it's down to 56%. 56!
So weird. And I barely use any apps. I made a conscious effort to keep it as clean as possible.
Help!

Hmmm alot of data is missing from your end but this is what I suggest as basic. Make your blacklight dim so it does not use alot of energy as this is the highest cause of battery drainage during actual awake time. Then disable any unwanted useless services from boot trust me there are lot and also disable them if they restarts. You can also use SetCPU taking you have OC based kernel then make profile to scale your mCPU based on max/avg/idle.
Best advice for you is don't charge the battery, get it low as 1% then do full charge and check your actual usage cycle the uptime/awake time later. Which rom are you using? OCing? if you don't need it just underclock it no need to OC just for the hell of it.

sounds like u need to turn off your network connection

brianphanz0r said:
sounds like u need to turn off your network connection
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Would you like to elaborate more on that? how do you know he is not using anything that require data connection?

STHNS said:
Would you like to elaborate more on that? how do you know he is not using anything that require data connection?
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when i leave my 4G/3G/Edge idle, it burns my batteries like mad
unless he has the screen on all day, i dont see how 5 hours would burn 50% of his batteries. even without killing all his task

No I was asking you to clarify as you mean to say completely disable data when you are idle? well you can do that if you have nothing that requires access but most folks have email and other elements that does require it. But yes it would improve it but that depends on him and how/what he has setup.
Whats your uptime/awake time with full bat cycle?

JuiceDefender does that, it disables the mobile data connection when the screen is off, but you can let some apps bypass that have it on every 15minutes or so to have it sync.
I've been playing around with it, and it does improve battery life, but it's not for me though, cause it does take a good 3-8 seconds until you get the "H" or your data connection back.

LOL I was curious and searched "Juice" my 8.1gb paid app archive of market that I just cURLed few days ago and came across UltimateJuice LOL so I guess ill run it. I have so many stuff... only if I could install it and test it but its not possible as its close to 11k apps.

Theres so much that can effect the batteries on these phones. Weak signal, apps running in the background, coutless things.
These are "super phones". I keepo a data cable in my pocket, and a car charger in the car at all times. My phone basically lives on the charger. Its easier that way. I know, not the answer you were looking for, but if you want your phone to do everything it was capable of then thats something you may have to deal with. You could turn all sync off and make sure nothing is ever doing anything in the background, but then whats the point in haing such an amazing phone?

C&P response from every other battery life thread:
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The first thing to check is if your phone is being affected by the init or suspend bugs. The good news is the former has an easy fix, and the latter can be temporarily fixed by a reboot.
First, download & install Watchdog Lite from the market. Then open its preferences and check "include phone processes," "monitor phone processes," and "display all phone processes." Then just use your phone as normal. It may take a while before you get an alert from Watchdog (and maybe you never will and it ends up you have a different problem). But if you do, note the process that is the culprit.
If it is the init process, go to settings>applications>development> check "usb debugging."
If it is the suspend process, reboot the phone. It should keep it from happening again for a while.
I know the second answer isn't really an answer, but so far it's all we've got for that problem. There is more information on the 2 problems in these threads:
Init:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=839935
Suspend:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=872839
Good luck...I had both of the problems and my phone didn't last to dinner time. Now I get better battery life than the iphone 3GS I had before this...over a full day of moderate use.
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I'm not rooted at all. Although I gladly rooted my previous phone (3g slide) I don't want to root this phone because I don't know of any ROMs that are EXACTLY like this Sense stock ROM on here, just without the crapware (games, VVM, so on). Is there one?

Ya you can go take a look in Ice Glacier v1.1.6 see which you like the regular or themed version.
QL: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=844594

Battery life is all relative. Every single person will experience different battery life. The apps you have installed, the amount of time you spend on it and the time you spend on/in each app, distance from cell towers, distance from Wi-Fi sources, settings you have for every app and things like sync and what not.

I have the same problem at work (building)...poor reception = constantly reconnecting = major battery drain..

STHNS said:
Ya you can go take a look in Ice Glacier v1.1.6 see which you like the regular or themed version.
QL: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=844594
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Thanks, I didn't think one existed. I just wish these cooks would put up some screenshots sometimes.
Quick unrelated question... is there any way I can JUST root for access to the phone and then delete the things I don't want with Titanium by myself. I really DO like the phone the way it is and I just wanna lose some of the network connected crap like the T-Mo faves, etc.
Thanks

tinpanalley said:
Thanks, I didn't think one existed. I just wish these cooks would put up some screenshots sometimes.
Quick unrelated question... is there any way I can JUST root for access to the phone and then delete the things I don't want with Titanium by myself. I really DO like the phone the way it is and I just wanna lose some of the network connected crap like the T-Mo faves, etc.
Thanks
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Yes. You can just root and use the stock rom if you like. Use Titanium to freeze unwanted apps rather than uninstalling them. That way, if something starts behaving strangely, you can unfreeze apps to troubleshoot. Uninstalling system apps is permanent and Titanium doesn't backup system apks, only data. I haven't used it, but I believe Iced glacier is what you're looking for. The unthemed version is basically stock mt4g without bloat with some performance tweaks.
Swyped on my rooted MyTouch4G

XfooYen said:
Yes. You can just root and use the stock rom if you like. Use Titanium to freeze unwanted apps rather than uninstalling them. That way, if something starts behaving strangely, you can unfreeze apps to troubleshoot. Uninstalling system apps is permanent and Titanium doesn't backup system apks, only data. I haven't used it, but I believe Iced glacier is what you're looking for. The unthemed version is basically stock mt4g without bloat with some performance tweaks.
Swyped on my rooted MyTouch4G
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Thanks! You know, the thing is that with rooting, from my WinMo days when it was a really risky process, I developed this fear of rom flashing just because of the risk of screwing up. I know Android is much easier to flash with a ROM but it still freaks me out a bit and if it's not COMPLETELY necessary, as it was on the 3g slide I just had, I try not to do it. But I'll check out the unthemed Ice Glacier. I just wish I could see some screen shots or get an explained list of what mods are done to the stock rom on it.

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Thanks! You know, the thing is that with rooting, from my WinMo days when it was a really risky process, I developed this fear of rom flashing just because of the risk of screwing up. I know Android is much easier to flash with a ROM but it still freaks me out a bit and if it's not COMPLETELY necessary, as it was on the 3g slide I just had, I try not to do it. But I'll check out the unthemed Ice Glacier. I just wish I could see some screen shots or get an explained list of what mods are done to the stock rom on it.
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The other thing you can do , if you like the stock ROM but just want to get rid of the bloatware, is to temp root using Visionary+, then use terminal, and disable the apps you don't want. I forgot where i saw it, but that's what I did and it works great. Also, if you ever want it back, it's not erased, just go back and enable it by typing "enable" instead of "disable" in the instructions below.
In Terminal Emulator (with root):
$"su" <enter>
#"pm list packages" <enter>
#"pm disable exact.NameOFApp.IncludingCase.SensitivityAnd.Periods" <enter>
#
You're done; it should be removed from your app drawer and everything. It will still show up in the package list, so if you want to enable it again, just pick it out of the list and follow the same directions replacing "disable" with "enable."

geoffott said:
The other thing you can do , if you like the stock ROM but just want to get rid of the bloatware, is to temp root using Visionary+, then use terminal, and disable the apps you don't want.
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I don't get the concept of "temp rooting" vs real or full rooting. Does that mean it unroots if you reboot? What's the temp part?

That's it. Temp root goes away on reboot.
HTC Glacier running CM7 #18

Upset with Bell Gingerbread update

I updated my phone to Bell Gingerbread 2.3.4 last week but it seems to me Froyo was much more responsive and was simply... better!
Here are the problems I've been dealing with:
-Scrolling the front pages from left to right on the home screens are not as fluid and the screen touch response seems it has a certain delay compared to Froyo.
-In the Music app, when you are in an Artist's album and you want to go back to the previous page (by clicking the back button), it directs you straight to the first artist on your list.
-The battery runs out faster
-The phone always has trouble getting 3G data connection when it enters an area that has network after being in an area without it.
-Updating apps from the market is soooo much slower than it used to be and it always messes up because the same app is downloading 3, 4, 5 times simultaneously...
-In the Gallery app, when in Landscape mode, let's say you scroll from right to left, you have to wait till the animation stops so that you scroll back the other way... If it hasn't stopped scrolling, it will not respond by swiping the other way.
-The start-up takes FOREVER to load and it always gets stuck about a minute or two in that "Dual-core Technology" logo...
-When calling someone, if you press the power button to avoid false contact between your face and the screen, when you finish talking and you want to press "End Call", you have to push the power button once more to re-open the screen.
I understand all those points are minor problems, but they're numerous and it upsets me that a phone with this much hardware capability isn't getting the proper update. I dunno, I just want to know if you guys have been dealing these problems as well, and if you know what I can do to fix them, it would be great!
Thanks in advance!!

Gjm127 said:
I updated my phone to Bell Gingerbread 2.3.4 last week but it seems to me Froyo was much more responsive and was simply... better!
Here are the problems I've been dealing with:
-Scrolling the front pages from left to right on the home screens are not as fluid and the screen touch response seems it has a certain delay compared to Froyo.
-In the Music app, when you are in an Artist's album and you want to go back to the previous page (by clicking the back button), it directs you straight to the first artist on your list.
-The battery runs out faster
-The phone always has trouble getting 3G data connection when it enters an area that has network after being in an area without it.
-Updating apps from the market is soooo much slower than it used to be and it always messes up because the same app is downloading 3, 4, 5 times simultaneously...
-In the Gallery app, when in Landscape mode, let's say you scroll from right to left, you have to wait till the animation stops so that you scroll back the other way... If it hasn't stopped scrolling, it will not respond by swiping the other way.
-The start-up takes FOREVER to load and it always gets stuck about a minute or two in that "Dual-core Technology" logo...
-When calling someone, if you press the power button to avoid false contact between your face and the screen, when you finish talking and you want to press "End Call", you have to push the power button once more to re-open the screen.
I understand all those points are minor problems, but they're numerous and it upsets me that a phone with this much hardware capability isn't getting the proper update. I dunno, I just want to know if you guys have been dealing these problems as well, and if you know what I can do to fix them, it would be great!
Thanks in advance!!
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the most upsetting one is the battery life. I could go for 2-3 days without recharging the phone. Now I can barely do 1 day. And I'm a really light user. I dont have data plan and just use wi-fi where availiable. I think its super weird that this update made the phone worse.
The only saving grace is the addition of zoom on camera and separate notification cancel. Thats about it.

I have not been facing any of these issues. For the battery, completely drain the battery until it dies and then charge it to 100% without unplugging it. Also, if you are a light user and are not on the phone all the time, I suggest using Maximum Battery Saver as the battery mode. Right now, I am running Bell GB with both suggestions, have 40% battery remaining and have been on the phone for over 16 hours on medium usage. I actually like the update quite a bit.
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I have not been facing any of these issues. For the battery, completely drain the battery until it dies and then charge it to 100% without unplugging it. Also, if you are a light user and are not on the phone all the time, I suggest using Maximum Battery Saver as the battery mode. Right now, I am running Bell GB with both suggestions, have 40% battery remaining and have been on the phone for over 16 hours on medium usage. I actually like the update quite a bit.
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thanks I'll drain it today.

Does anyone else have these issues aswell? What can I do to fix them??

How long are you suppose to get with the ATRIX battery.
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Doing a factory data reset after an upgrade fixes 99% of the problems

TheMan0790 said:
I have not been facing any of these issues. For the battery, completely drain the battery until it dies and then charge it to 100% without unplugging it. Also, if you are a light user and are not on the phone all the time, I suggest using Maximum Battery Saver as the battery mode. Right now, I am running Bell GB with both suggestions, have 40% battery remaining and have been on the phone for over 16 hours on medium usage. I actually like the update quite a bit.
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even i have bitter experience with GB update.especially because battery goes down very fast. its lasts half the time it used to when i had Froyo.
i have tried many roms and drained battery couple of times as well. no help . i think i will go back to froyo

bimmerboii said:
Doing a factory data reset after an upgrade fixes 99% of the problems
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How sure are you?? Can you suggest a good backup app?

Gjm127 said:
How sure are you?? Can you suggest a good backup app?
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It's common knowledge. A lot of cache/files get left behind after an update that are no longer needed, or old copies when it should have new ones.
It's always recommended after you do an update from either OTA or Custom Rom that you do a factory reset to clear out any old data that might cause issues.
Titanium is one of the best. Doesn't backup your SMS though, so you'll need another app for that. And only restore the apps you've downloaded and their data. Don't restore any system apps or you'll be back in the same situation or worse.

Zero-K said:
It's common knowledge. A lot of cache/files get left behind after an update that are no longer needed, or old copies when it should have new ones.
It's always recommended after you do an update from either OTA or Custom Rom that you do a factory reset to clear out any old data that might cause issues.
Titanium is one of the best. Doesn't backup your SMS though, so you'll need another app for that. And only restore the apps you've downloaded and their data. Don't restore any system apps or you'll be back in the same situation or worse.
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If Titanium is "one of the best" then what's better?... (unless you are talking about Nandroid)
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Gjm127 said:
How sure are you?? Can you suggest a good backup app?
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For backing up sms, call logs, contacts, bookmarks etc i use mybackup pro.
I dont back up my apps i just redownload them one by one as i prefer doing fresh install on a new system upgrade

Zero-K said:
Titanium is one of the best. Doesn't backup your SMS though, so you'll need another app for that. And only restore the apps you've downloaded and their data. Don't restore any system apps or you'll be back in the same situation or worse.
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...and clear any security settings (fingerprint, screen lock etc) and don't restore data relating to those. I make a mess of my phone just doing a blind batch "restore all apps and data" in TB.

J252 said:
...and clear any security settings (fingerprint, screen lock etc) and don't restore data relating to those. I make a mess of my phone just doing a blind "restore all apps and system" in TB.
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GApps on Rooted LG V20

Does anybody know if we are able to flash any other versions of GApps on the rooted LG V20?
My V20 is from AT&T and since day one it has had terrible battery life. Where I was able to use my Note7 or Droid Turbo all day and still have battery left, the V20 eats the battery charge like Sally Struthers in a See's Candy warehouse. I mean, I have to charge this thing at least 2 times a day when I use it to search the web or any battery intensive purposes. I never had this problem on any other phone. I have been trying to find ways to improve my battery. I used Rom Toolbox Pro to disable all kinds of stuff, and it worked great, until my phone started Grand Mal seizing giving me the Google Play Services has to close notifications, which I then had to factory reset just to get my phone working properly again.
I would like to try flashing a minimal version of GApps that pretty much just has the play store and play store services. Are we able to do this on our V20's without having any issues? If you have any input at all I would really appreciate it.

IMHO it must be an app or two you have installed draining your battery like that. On a full charge I can a whole day and a little in to the next. I am a heavy user too. Are you blasting the brightness at 100% all the time? If so auto brightness will help a little. Go in to setting and see what is using that much drain

tnick84 said:
IMHO it must be an app or two you have installed draining your battery like that. On a full charge I can a whole day and a little in to the next. I am a heavy user too. Are you blasting the brightness at 100% all the time? If so auto brightness will help a little. Go in to setting and see what is using that much drain
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I was thinking it might be something I installed, as well. But I can't seem to pinpoint any apps that might be causing the battery drain. I keep the screen on auto brightness like you mentioned so it shouldn't be the screen. GSam almost always shows the Android System and Kernel (Android OS) at the top of the list of battery-draining apps. I love the phone, I just cannot figure out what is going on. I mean, I am not doing anything different than I have on my previous phones, and the V20 seems to be working fine. I thought maybe it is something with Nougat. I will gladly post some pics of app usage or data if it might help figure this problem out.

nikktrikk said:
I was thinking it might be something I installed, as well. But I can't seem to pinpoint any apps that might be causing the battery drain. I keep the screen on auto brightness like you mentioned so it shouldn't be the screen. GSam almost always shows the Android System and Kernel (Android OS) at the top of the list of battery-draining apps. I love the phone, I just cannot figure out what is going on. I mean, I am not doing anything different than I have on my previous phones, and the V20 seems to be working fine. I thought maybe it is something with Nougat. I will gladly post some pics of app usage or data if it might help figure this problem out.
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What rom are you on? Are you on stock white theme? I'm running a dark theme, which can help save a little juice. I'm also running as many team blackout apps as I can (many Google apps) to avoid all the whiteness. Just throwing out some ideas.

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What rom are you on? Are you on stock white theme? I'm running a dark theme, which can help save a little juice. I'm also running as many team blackout apps as I can (many Google apps) to avoid all the whiteness. Just throwing out some ideas.
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Interesting! I have never heard of Team Blackout Apps, they look pretty nice! Yes, I am on the stock ROM just the way it comes. I haven't changed anything at all. I have barely installed any apps just to see if I can find what is causing the battery to drain. Are there any other ROMs that work with the AT&T variant of the LG V20? It seems like they haven't made any yet for the AT&T V20. I am still waiting for Xposed to be released that is compatible with nougat so I can use Amplify.

nikktrikk said:
Interesting! I have never heard of Team Blackout Apps, they look pretty nice! Yes, I am on the stock ROM just the way it comes. I haven't changed anything at all. I have barely installed any apps just to see if I can find what is causing the battery to drain. Are there any other ROMs that work with the AT&T variant of the LG V20? It seems like they haven't made any yet for the AT&T V20. I am still waiting for Xposed to be released that is compatible with nougat so I can use Amplify.
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I don't think there are any roms for AT&T variant atm. I did see an AT&T user flashed the stock deodexed rom by tilde88 in rom section. Not sure of all the details though. I'm assuming you would lose some functionality...would need to flash stock kernel as well.

What is your leading source of battery drain under system usage?

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I don't think there are any roms for AT&T variant atm. I did see an AT&T user flashed the stock deodexed rom by tilde88 in rom section. Not sure of all the details though. I'm assuming you would lose some functionality...would need to flash stock kernel as well.
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Yeah definitely, I think it is a little bit too early, for me at least, to expetiment with a deodexed ROM. But I know there will be some awesome developments coming out soon. I was so happy to see that a root was figured out for the V20 so quickly after it was released. Until then, I will keep experimenting with the stock ROM.
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What is your leading source of battery drain under system usage?
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Hi Swizzle82, thank you for the reply. It is kind of difficult for me to pinpoint what the leading source of battery drain is because the apps seem to bunch all detected processes and wakelocks together. I know that Call Services & Android System show up on top a lot of the time, but since I factory reset the phone today, the stats are minimal compared to what I previously had. WeChat also uses resources, but I used that app all the time on my Note7 and previous phones, even more than I do now, and it never caused a problem. I attached some screenshots from GSam, BetterBatteryStats, Wakelock Detector, and CPU Spy Reloaded., I don't know if they will help, but just switching between those few apps and taking some screenshots over the span of 6 minutes, my battery percentage dropped from 79% to 76%.

nikktrikk said:
Yeah definitely, I think it is a little bit too early, for me at least, to expetiment with a deodexed ROM. But I know there will be some awesome developments coming out soon. I was so happy to see that a root was figured out for the V20 so quickly after it was released. Until then, I will keep experimenting with the stock ROM.
Hi Swizzle82, thank you for the reply. It is kind of difficult for me to pinpoint what the leading source of battery drain is because the apps seem to bunch all detected processes and wakelocks together. I know that Call Services & Android System show up on top a lot of the time, but since I factory reset the phone today, the stats are minimal compared to what I previously had. WeChat also uses resources, but I used that app all the time on my Note7 and previous phones, even more than I do now, and it never caused a problem. I attached some screenshots from GSam, BetterBatteryStats, Wakelock Detector, and CPU Spy Reloaded., I don't know if they will help, but just switching between those few apps and taking some screenshots over the span of 6 minutes, my battery percentage dropped from 79% to 76%.
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I had android system for a while killing me.. I factory reset and setup every app one by one with no data transfer or anything. Installed every app like it's first install. I charged it til it reached 100 percent, with the phone plugged in, I went to data/system/batterystars.bin and deleted that file and rebooted. It was a long process but it hasn't been an issue since. This was when the phone first came out last month. Never knew which apps data it was but it is gone now.

Swizzle82 said:
I had android system for a while killing me.. I factory reset and setup every app one by one with no data transfer or anything. Installed every app like it's first install. I charged it til it reached 100 percent, with the phone plugged in, I went to data/system/batterystars.bin and deleted that file and rebooted. It was a long process but it hasn't been an issue since. This was when the phone first came out last month. Never knew which apps data it was but it is gone now.
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That sounds like a good idea to try. I will do this today since I already factory reset it yesterday. I would rather do it now before I get further into using it again. I have not heard about this until you mentioned it so maybe there is an issue with app transfers with the V20 causing it. The battery does seem to drain less than before, but it seems like there are still some issues. Thank you for the suggestion!

nikktrikk said:
That sounds like a good idea to try. I will do this today since I already factory reset it yesterday. I would rather do it now before I get further into using it again. I have not heard about this until you mentioned it so maybe there is an issue with app transfers with the V20 causing it. The battery does seem to drain less than before, but it seems like there are still some issues. Thank you for the suggestion!
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If you followed did the dirtysanta method, make sure you flash the Konverged kernel for the H918. Or Tilde88's 5.1 kernel for the H918. It worked wonders on improving battery life. Also make sure you disable Lookout - that drains a lot of battery it seemed to me at least. I usually get about a day and a half of battery life when I use my normal amount (which is honestly quite a bit).
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If you followed did the dirtysanta method, make sure you flash the Konverged kernel for the H918. Or Tilde88's 5.1 kernel for the H918. It worked wonders on improving battery life. Also make sure you disable Lookout - that drains a lot of battery it seemed to me at least. I usually get about a day and a half of battery life when I use my normal amount (which is honestly quite a bit).
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Okay, thanks for letting me know! I have not even looked at those kernels thinking they weren't cross compatible with H910. I am going to try it right now with the dirtysanta method. I will disable Lookout, as well. There are a ton of apps that I never use that drain the battery. I will let you know how it goes :good:

Did you own a V10 or other Lg phone prior?

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Did you own a V10 or other Lg phone prior?
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No, I had the Note7 before getting the LG V20. Before that I had a Note 4 and a Droid Turbo. This is my first LG phone and I really do love it. I actually like it more than the Note7, the only problem I have is the battery. I do think that factory resetting and manually installing the apps instead of restoring them will help, and using the Konverged kernel seems promising, from what I am reading.

nikktrikk said:
No, I had the Note7 before getting the LG V20. Before that I had a Note 4 and a Droid Turbo. This is my first LG phone and I really do love it. I actually like it more than the Note7, the only problem I have is the battery. I do think that factory resetting and manually installing the apps instead of restoring them will help, and using the Konverged kernel seems promising, from what I am reading.
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Yup I always start fresh and install apps manually anytime I reset my phone. I think it's always nice to start fresh - even if it is sometimes a bit inconvenient to go through all the apps you've installed and choosing which ones to install. Hopefully you get it all sorted out!

Swizzle82 said:
I had android system for a while killing me.. I factory reset and setup every app one by one with no data transfer or anything. Installed every app like it's first install. I charged it til it reached 100 percent, with the phone plugged in, I went to data/system/batterystars.bin and deleted that file and rebooted. It was a long process but it hasn't been an issue since. This was when the phone first came out last month. Never knew which apps data it was but it is gone now.
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Yup I always start fresh and install apps manually anytime I reset my phone. I think it's always nice to start fresh - even if it is sometimes a bit inconvenient to go through all the apps you've installed and choosing which ones to install. Hopefully you get it all sorted out!
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Okay, I just factory reset the phone, rooted it with DirtySanta, and flashed the Konverged kernel and the phone is NOTICEABLY faster and smoother! This is great! Each time I reset the phone, it had noticeable lag. I just figured it would go away over time, which it did, and that it was because it had to load and download everything since it was fresh. But with the Konverged kernel, it has none of the lag and is silky smooth! Time to manually install the apps I want and disable some stuff I don't need. I will update you guys after I see how the battery is with the new setup Thanks a lot for your help, I really appreciate all the input!:good:

I need your help! I changed the screen cover sensor to off not realizing that I would not be able to turn off the static after rebooting my phone since the sensor is off. Would somebody please post a few screenshots showing how to navigate to the screen sensor settings so I can tap my way there and turn it back on? I am trying but there is no way to tell where to tap with all the static. Thank you!
Nevermind, I fixed it! I finally navigated to the second screen settings and turned it off when the screen is off and that got rid of the static after I turned the screen off then on again. Note to self, never do that again LOL.

nikktrikk said:
I need your help! I changed the screen cover sensor to off not realizing that I would not be able to turn off the static after rebooting my phone since the sensor is off. Would somebody please post a few screenshots showing how to navigate to the screen sensor settings so I can tap my way there and turn it back on? I am trying but there is no way to tell where to tap with all the static. Thank you!
Nevermind, I fixed it! I finally navigated to the second screen settings and turned it off when the screen is off and that got rid of the static after I turned the screen off then on again. Note to self, never do that again LOL.
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Wow I'm fairly impressed you managed to do all that with the static screen haha - glad to hear it worked out for you in the end.

Get me your stock system.img and boot.img, and I'll make you a modded ROM with a custom kernel!

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Wow I'm fairly impressed you managed to do all that with the static screen haha - glad to hear it worked out for you in the end.
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Haha yeah, I never knew something like that could cause such a huge problem. Now I can't seem to find what I did to cause that in the first place. I have been looking through all of the settings and can't seem to find anything that affects the proximity sensor. On top of that, the screen rotation stopped working, it will not rotate when I turn the phone to the side to type. I have toggled all of the motion and second screen settings, calibrated the motion sensor, and nothing is affecting it. When I turn the main screen off, the sensor does not shut off the second screen when I cover it with my finger, and the phone does not recognize when I rotate the screen. I am kind of at a loss on how to fix it.