I'm so confused.
Just got the mytouch 4g. Charged it, as it said in the book, until it was fully charged. Used it all day until it was drained and then recharged it this evening. Just looked at it now. In 5 hours since unplugging, it's down to 56%. 56!
So weird. And I barely use any apps. I made a conscious effort to keep it as clean as possible.
Help!
Hmmm alot of data is missing from your end but this is what I suggest as basic. Make your blacklight dim so it does not use alot of energy as this is the highest cause of battery drainage during actual awake time. Then disable any unwanted useless services from boot trust me there are lot and also disable them if they restarts. You can also use SetCPU taking you have OC based kernel then make profile to scale your mCPU based on max/avg/idle.
Best advice for you is don't charge the battery, get it low as 1% then do full charge and check your actual usage cycle the uptime/awake time later. Which rom are you using? OCing? if you don't need it just underclock it no need to OC just for the hell of it.
sounds like u need to turn off your network connection
brianphanz0r said:
sounds like u need to turn off your network connection
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Would you like to elaborate more on that? how do you know he is not using anything that require data connection?
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Would you like to elaborate more on that? how do you know he is not using anything that require data connection?
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when i leave my 4G/3G/Edge idle, it burns my batteries like mad
unless he has the screen on all day, i dont see how 5 hours would burn 50% of his batteries. even without killing all his task
No I was asking you to clarify as you mean to say completely disable data when you are idle? well you can do that if you have nothing that requires access but most folks have email and other elements that does require it. But yes it would improve it but that depends on him and how/what he has setup.
Whats your uptime/awake time with full bat cycle?
JuiceDefender does that, it disables the mobile data connection when the screen is off, but you can let some apps bypass that have it on every 15minutes or so to have it sync.
I've been playing around with it, and it does improve battery life, but it's not for me though, cause it does take a good 3-8 seconds until you get the "H" or your data connection back.
LOL I was curious and searched "Juice" my 8.1gb paid app archive of market that I just cURLed few days ago and came across UltimateJuice LOL so I guess ill run it. I have so many stuff... only if I could install it and test it but its not possible as its close to 11k apps.
Theres so much that can effect the batteries on these phones. Weak signal, apps running in the background, coutless things.
These are "super phones". I keepo a data cable in my pocket, and a car charger in the car at all times. My phone basically lives on the charger. Its easier that way. I know, not the answer you were looking for, but if you want your phone to do everything it was capable of then thats something you may have to deal with. You could turn all sync off and make sure nothing is ever doing anything in the background, but then whats the point in haing such an amazing phone?
C&P response from every other battery life thread:
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The first thing to check is if your phone is being affected by the init or suspend bugs. The good news is the former has an easy fix, and the latter can be temporarily fixed by a reboot.
First, download & install Watchdog Lite from the market. Then open its preferences and check "include phone processes," "monitor phone processes," and "display all phone processes." Then just use your phone as normal. It may take a while before you get an alert from Watchdog (and maybe you never will and it ends up you have a different problem). But if you do, note the process that is the culprit.
If it is the init process, go to settings>applications>development> check "usb debugging."
If it is the suspend process, reboot the phone. It should keep it from happening again for a while.
I know the second answer isn't really an answer, but so far it's all we've got for that problem. There is more information on the 2 problems in these threads:
Init:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=839935
Suspend:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=872839
Good luck...I had both of the problems and my phone didn't last to dinner time. Now I get better battery life than the iphone 3GS I had before this...over a full day of moderate use.
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I'm not rooted at all. Although I gladly rooted my previous phone (3g slide) I don't want to root this phone because I don't know of any ROMs that are EXACTLY like this Sense stock ROM on here, just without the crapware (games, VVM, so on). Is there one?
Ya you can go take a look in Ice Glacier v1.1.6 see which you like the regular or themed version.
QL: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=844594
Battery life is all relative. Every single person will experience different battery life. The apps you have installed, the amount of time you spend on it and the time you spend on/in each app, distance from cell towers, distance from Wi-Fi sources, settings you have for every app and things like sync and what not.
I have the same problem at work (building)...poor reception = constantly reconnecting = major battery drain..
STHNS said:
Ya you can go take a look in Ice Glacier v1.1.6 see which you like the regular or themed version.
QL: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=844594
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Thanks, I didn't think one existed. I just wish these cooks would put up some screenshots sometimes.
Quick unrelated question... is there any way I can JUST root for access to the phone and then delete the things I don't want with Titanium by myself. I really DO like the phone the way it is and I just wanna lose some of the network connected crap like the T-Mo faves, etc.
Thanks
tinpanalley said:
Thanks, I didn't think one existed. I just wish these cooks would put up some screenshots sometimes.
Quick unrelated question... is there any way I can JUST root for access to the phone and then delete the things I don't want with Titanium by myself. I really DO like the phone the way it is and I just wanna lose some of the network connected crap like the T-Mo faves, etc.
Thanks
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Yes. You can just root and use the stock rom if you like. Use Titanium to freeze unwanted apps rather than uninstalling them. That way, if something starts behaving strangely, you can unfreeze apps to troubleshoot. Uninstalling system apps is permanent and Titanium doesn't backup system apks, only data. I haven't used it, but I believe Iced glacier is what you're looking for. The unthemed version is basically stock mt4g without bloat with some performance tweaks.
Swyped on my rooted MyTouch4G
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Yes. You can just root and use the stock rom if you like. Use Titanium to freeze unwanted apps rather than uninstalling them. That way, if something starts behaving strangely, you can unfreeze apps to troubleshoot. Uninstalling system apps is permanent and Titanium doesn't backup system apks, only data. I haven't used it, but I believe Iced glacier is what you're looking for. The unthemed version is basically stock mt4g without bloat with some performance tweaks.
Swyped on my rooted MyTouch4G
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Thanks! You know, the thing is that with rooting, from my WinMo days when it was a really risky process, I developed this fear of rom flashing just because of the risk of screwing up. I know Android is much easier to flash with a ROM but it still freaks me out a bit and if it's not COMPLETELY necessary, as it was on the 3g slide I just had, I try not to do it. But I'll check out the unthemed Ice Glacier. I just wish I could see some screen shots or get an explained list of what mods are done to the stock rom on it.
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Thanks! You know, the thing is that with rooting, from my WinMo days when it was a really risky process, I developed this fear of rom flashing just because of the risk of screwing up. I know Android is much easier to flash with a ROM but it still freaks me out a bit and if it's not COMPLETELY necessary, as it was on the 3g slide I just had, I try not to do it. But I'll check out the unthemed Ice Glacier. I just wish I could see some screen shots or get an explained list of what mods are done to the stock rom on it.
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The other thing you can do , if you like the stock ROM but just want to get rid of the bloatware, is to temp root using Visionary+, then use terminal, and disable the apps you don't want. I forgot where i saw it, but that's what I did and it works great. Also, if you ever want it back, it's not erased, just go back and enable it by typing "enable" instead of "disable" in the instructions below.
In Terminal Emulator (with root):
$"su" <enter>
#"pm list packages" <enter>
#"pm disable exact.NameOFApp.IncludingCase.SensitivityAnd.Periods" <enter>
#
You're done; it should be removed from your app drawer and everything. It will still show up in the package list, so if you want to enable it again, just pick it out of the list and follow the same directions replacing "disable" with "enable."
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The other thing you can do , if you like the stock ROM but just want to get rid of the bloatware, is to temp root using Visionary+, then use terminal, and disable the apps you don't want.
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I don't get the concept of "temp rooting" vs real or full rooting. Does that mean it unroots if you reboot? What's the temp part?
That's it. Temp root goes away on reboot.
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so ever snice i flashed my hero to damage 2.1 rom my awake time is always so high. its always only about 10 minutes BELOW he uptime. therefore, KILLING my battery life. =(
I've been running DC off and on for almost a month now and have had excellent battery life. My awake times fluctuate (right now I'm at 13:30 Up time and 8:37 Awake time) but it hasn't been crazy.
Just curious, what is considered a "good" awake time/up time ratio? Are there better numbers on any of the other ROMs?
before if flashed it. lets say my uptime would be 50 minutes. my awake time would prob only be 2 minutes if i didnt use my phone at all. but now that i flashed it, my uptime would be 50 minutes and my awake time will prob like 40 minutes.
The current Damage Control ROM is bugged and has an extremely strange wake lock issue. I'd suggest using Fresh ROM 2.0d until this is fixed.
is the freshrom 2.0 just like damagecontrol ? i mean i LOVE evertying about DC. i wouldnt want something so different.
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is the freshrom 2.0 just like damagecontrol ? i mean i LOVE evertying about DC. i wouldnt want something so different.
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it shouldnt be totally different, but even if it isn't it works...or you could live with your battery life.
I don't think it's the ROM. I am running DC 2.7.02 and right now my up time is 21:45 while my awake time is 2:48.
My battery life has been fantastic. Have you tried looking at various radios?
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I don't think it's the ROM. I am running DC 2.7.02 and right now my up time is 21:45 while my awake time is 2:48.
My battery life has been fantastic. Have you tried looking at various radios?
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yea after a search...weird i didnt think it worked...i found that this complaint is on almost every rom by at least one person. There are quite a few fixes. biggest one is disabling stock messaging app if used and using handcent or chomp.
Also you can go to settings, about phone, battery, and see what is using the battery.
This isnt for you dooj just quoted on your statement.
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so ever since i flashed my hero to damage 2.1 rom my awake time is always so high. its always only about 10 minutes BELOW he uptime. therefore, KILLING my battery life. =(
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I had that happen recently to a friend. Try just doing a factory reset.
Settings -> privacy -> factory reset.
Your phone will still remain rooted and the rom will still remain too.
This fixed it for him.
how do i disable the stock messanger fully ?
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how do i disable the stock messanger fully ?
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go to messages, then press menu and go to setting. uncheck auto-retrieve, and uncheck received notifications.
edit* i did this to my wifes phone a few weeks ago as she was having a problem on another rom and her awake time still shows high but her battery is much better and she quit hitting me.
yeah i have thoese unchecked. everytime i open up advacned task killer i always see these apps running tho...
voicemail
clock
handcent
messages
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yeah i have thoese unchecked. everytime i open up advacned task killer i always see these apps running tho...
voicemail
clock
handcent
messages
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whats your time without signal? go to settings, about phone, battery, battery use and see whats using the battery and if click on the cell standby i think to see time without signal.
also go to menu, applications, running services, and see whats running and how long. stop the ones you dont use that have been running the entire time your phone was awake.
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how do i disable the stock messanger fully ?
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If you want to remove it, then at the windows command prompt assuming you have your SDK tools path set up correctly:
adb remount
adb shell
cd /system/app
rm [messaging app].apk
I dont know what the name of the messaging app is, but I think it might be Mms.apk You are at your own risk if that removes the wrong app.
You dont have to tecnically remove it. Just disable auto retrieve and notifications in that app.
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If you want to remove it, then at the windows command prompt assuming you have your SDK tools path set up correctly:
adb remount
adb shell
cd /system/app
rm [messaging app].apk
I dont know what the name of the messaging app is, but I think it might be Mms.apk You are at your own risk if that removes the wrong app.
You dont have to tecnically remove it. Just disable auto retrieve and notifications in that app.
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It is mms.apk.
I have been running the stock messaging with no problems.
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whats your time without signal? go to settings, about phone, battery, battery use and see whats using the battery and if click on the cell standby i think to see time without signal.
also go to menu, applications, running services, and see whats running and how long. stop the ones you dont use that have been running the entire time your phone was awake.
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My time without signal is 0% or non-existant.
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The current Damage Control ROM is bugged and has an extremely strange wake lock issue. I'd suggest using Fresh ROM 2.0d until this is fixed.
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As for the current Damage Control ROM having a wake-lock issue, what IS the latest version? I am running v2.07.2 (the one before the TrevE mod) and I have no wake-lock, random reboots, or time without signal.
I have not found it to be the rom that is keeping things awake technically. I have tried to figure this one out, and all I can say it seems to be tied to some apps that I have downloaded that starts to throw the awake issue off.
This has happened to me on all 2.1 roms.......after a couple weeks of downloading some apps.
I only use root explorer and mixzing for now and have not had a problem with just those two.
I think I even confirmed that Pac-man was keeping the phone awake, although this is probably not the only one.
anyway, hope it helps.
sorry if some of these questions have already been asked and answered. unfortunantely, my computer crashed due to a manufacturing flaw so I can only access google and this forum via my epic (which can be a pain sometimes). also, since heros threads are always deleted, I cannot ask these questions there. please, any feedback and help would greatly appreciated.
okay so I reflashed backed snack 1.6 w/ ultimate after testing some of the newest froyo builds. id rather wat until I get the official ota upgrade.
after reflashing 1.6 for some reason, android market doesn't appear to be installed. where can I download the application? I even tried reflashing 1.6 over itself but that didn't work.
also, I'm using the new gingerbread youtube but I signed in and now I get a constant fc when I try to open it. how can I fix this? if I can't, where can I download an earlier version of youtube?
another question. this time about battery. using 1.6 w/ ultimate, I get fairly decent battery. only problem is, my battery stats say that my display and standby are what is killing my battery the most. nothing ever runs in the background, every so often I unlock my phone to either check the time or texts or facebook real quick, brightness is on its lowest setting, silent mode, juicedefender running correctly (battery life: x1.56), no data running in the background, drm killed, battery calibrated and battery stats wiped, and everything else possible to to save battery.
and something I'm noticing now that the phone is charging, the battery is quite hot and I'm not even using the phone. it only overheats when its charging and I've also noticed that its only hot when I use certain roms/kernels. any insight on this issue? any way to monitor and regulate temperature?
once again, any help would be appreciated!
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Ill take a stab at these. Reason for you market not showing, can't say? Did you wipe 3 times before flashing bs 1.6?
Also never sign in on gingerbread youtube on 2.1 build. I don't think anyone has got that working yet. Simply clear the cache for youtube and you should be set.
Lastly, I don't know what to say about your bettery.. what do you have setcpu running at? Do you have profiles to lower your phones speed when in standby? Couldn't hurt to give it a shot.
Sorry about your computer, all my info is based on personal experience don't really have a "dev" type answer for ya. But hope some of this helps.
Goodluck!
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Ill take a stab at these. Reason for you market not showing, can't say? Did you wipe 3 times before flashing bs 1.6?
Also never sign in on gingerbread youtube on 2.1 build. I don't think anyone has got that working yet. Simply clear the cache for youtube and you should be set.
Lastly, I don't know what to say about your bettery.. what do you have setcpu running at? Do you have profiles to lower your phones speed when in standby? Couldn't hurt to give it a shot.
Sorry about your computer, all my info is based on personal experience don't really have a "dev" type answer for ya. But hope some of this helps.
Goodluck!
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thank you for your reply.
yes I did wipe both data, cache, and davlik 3 times. I guess I will do that now and report back.
how would I go about clearing the cache for one specific app? I know I can do that when I open up my settings and go to app development but youtube doesn't show up in that list.
setpcu is oc at 1300 and uc at 200 conservative. profiles are as follows:
charging/full - 1000 and 200 conservative
battery < 15% - 800 and 400 conservative
screen off - 600 and 400 conservative
yeah, brand new computer too. all of a sudden it couldn't recognize the hard drive. and yes, most of my info is based on personal experience and creeping on forums.
edit: wiped everything 3 times and reflashed. market till not appear.
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For youtube I just open it up without a data connection and step through the process of signing out only enabling data when needed.
If you're missing market then you need to flash back stock with odin then start fresh. Baked doesn't remove market at all. If anything it's the fastest responding market I've used.
Heat from the battery is usually caused by programs requesting cycles or data. Just restart the phone before bed after your initial battery calibration.
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For youtube I just open it up without a data connection and step through the process of signing out only enabling data when needed.
If you're missing market then you need to flash back stock with odin then start fresh. Baked doesn't remove market at all. If anything it's the fastest responding market I've used.
Heat from the battery is usually caused by programs requesting cycles or data. Just restart the phone before bed after your initial battery calibration.
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as I stated, I have no computer at the moment. so using odin to go back to stock is out of the question as of now. hopefully there's got to be another way without using odin. if not then I suppose I'm stuck in this predicament until I get my computer back from geek squad. and yes, I've never had a problem with heroes work before. but for some reason, this is happening.
and as I've stated before, no programs or data run in the background on my phone. after initial calibration I rebooted it. and after every boot, I toggle airplane mode on and then off. ill continue to moniter battery temps and see if the problem persists.
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as I stated, I have no computer at the moment. so using odin to go back to stock is out of the question as of now. hopefully there's got to be another way without using odin. if not then I suppose I'm stuck in this predicament until I get my computer back from geek squad. and yes, I've never had a problem with heroes work before. but for some reason, this is happening.
and as I've stated before, no programs or data run in the background on my phone. after initial calibration I rebooted it. and after every boot, I toggle airplane mode on and then off. ill continue to moniter battery temps and see if the problem persists.
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Sorry bout that, I did read over that you hadn't had a computer. I overlooked it though. It just sounds like you might have somehow of gotten a corrupt install somehow.
Maybe you can try reinstalling 1.6 over top of itself. I don't really see anything wrong with that, but as stated before though. Make sure you wipe cache and dalvichk 3 times each before you do so.
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Sorry bout that, I did read over that you hadn't had a computer. I overlooked it though. It just sounds like you might have somehow of gotten a corrupt install somehow.
Maybe you can try reinstalling 1.6 over top of itself. I don't really see anything wrong with that, but as stated before though. Make sure you wipe cache and dalvichk 3 times each before you do so.
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that's okay.
hm that might be what's wrong. ill download it again later. right now, I'm watching two dumbasses snort a line of fire ants on 1000 ways to die. xD (too lazy right now)
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OK, so I'm a noob (to evo) and can't post on the dev thread for the Alliance 7.7 ROM so I'm going to throw this out here and hope for a response.
I tried RLS1 and didn't like it, there was some functions that irritated me so I went back to 7.7.
I like 7.7, I've got it stable, no sense reloads and I love the functionality.
However, my battery life is atrocious!!! I thought this was supposed to help save batt life??? I burned about 50% batt life in less than 3 hours in sleep mode!??
What did I do wrong??
I've been experimenting with Task Killer, Juice Defender and other supposedly power "saving" apps and settings but I haven't found the "holy grail" yet.
I'd really like someone to point me in the right direction if at all possible..Thanks!
Did you try calibrating your battery when you first flashed the rom?
Try downloading the battery calibration app by nema from the market.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.nema.batterycalibration
What PRI do u have? If you go into settings and about phone (I'm not exactly sure if that's the correct path) it should tell you. If your running something newer than 1.77 some phones have a wake issue where it wont let the phone sleep with newer PRI's. Try downgrading to 1.77, the wake issue should then be gone.
You can get PRI 1.77 from here just make sure you backup your WiMax keys before you flash, you know just in case something goes wrong. : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=715485
Maybe its one of the apps that your using that's not letting your phone sleep hence your battery drain. Spare parts on the market should show you if any apps are keeping your phone awake.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.androidapps.spare_parts
Or your battery is going bad? I was having such horrible battery life with my Evo that after a while it just couldn't hold a charge anymore. I purchased a new one and all is well now.
Try an AOSP rom? AOSP roms tend to have better battery life than Sense roms. They don't have many services running in the background eating up memory.
I can't think of anything else anymore but hope this helps!
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Did you try calibrating your battery when you first flashed the rom?
Try downloading the battery calibration app by nema from the market.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.nema.batterycalibration
What PRI do u have? If you go into settings and about phone (I'm not exactly sure if that's the correct path) it should tell you. If your running something newer than 1.77 some phones have a wake issue where it wont let the phone sleep with newer PRI's. Try downgrading to 1.77, the wake issue should then be gone.
You can get PRI 1.77 from here just make sure you backup your WiMax keys before you flash, you know just in case something goes wrong. : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=715485
Maybe its one of the apps that your using that's not letting your phone sleep hence your battery drain. Spare parts on the market should show you if any apps are keeping your phone awake.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.androidapps.spare_parts
Or your battery is going bad? I was having such horrible battery life with my Evo that after a while it just couldn't hold a charge anymore. I purchased a new one and all is well now.
Try an AOSP rom? AOSP roms tend to have better battery life than Sense roms. They don't have many services running in the background eating up memory.
I can't think of anything else anymore but hope this helps!
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Our of stupidity but, how exactly can you back up your WiMax Keys? Where can you go? Lol sorry, feel free to troll on me for asking that
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Lol Oh no none of that. I don't troll on anyone for not knowing something, we've all been there. Are you using amon ra recovery 2.3? If so, boot into recovery, go to backup/restore, nandroid backup and then it'll give u a list of things you might want to select to backup. Just unselect everything, select wimax and then select perform backup. It should take a couple of mins and then your done.
Actually I'm using ClockWork Mod 2.6 just seemed easier to me than AmonRa. (weird I know). but ok, nand back up and just select the WiMax info??
Also, v7.7 had an undervolt script built into it that some phones, mine included don't like. Might try flashing alliance rls2. Had the script removed.
tony0691 said:
Did you try calibrating your battery when you first flashed the rom?
Try downloading the battery calibration app by nema from the market.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.nema.batterycalibration
What PRI do u have? If you go into settings and about phone (I'm not exactly sure if that's the correct path) it should tell you. If your running something newer than 1.77 some phones have a wake issue where it wont let the phone sleep with newer PRI's. Try downgrading to 1.77, the wake issue should then be gone.
You can get PRI 1.77 from here just make sure you backup your WiMax keys before you flash, you know just in case something goes wrong. : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=715485
Maybe its one of the apps that your using that's not letting your phone sleep hence your battery drain. Spare parts on the market should show you if any apps are keeping your phone awake.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.androidapps.spare_parts
Or your battery is going bad? I was having such horrible battery life with my Evo that after a while it just couldn't hold a charge anymore. I purchased a new one and all is well now.
Try an AOSP rom? AOSP roms tend to have better battery life than Sense roms. They don't have many services running in the background eating up memory.
I can't think of anything else anymore but hope this helps!
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thanks for the info, I think the battery calibration helped a little, only 30% depleted after about 8 hours with moderate use.
I found I do have a newer PRI, version 1.90_003
Before I go messing with it, what is the PRI and what does it do?
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Also, v7.7 had an undervolt script built into it that some phones, mine included don't like. Might try flashing alliance rls2. Had the script removed.
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one of the reasons I didn't like RLS1 was the way they had the personalize button set to open the Kingsrom website. Did they change that, or is there a way to change it?
oi, I had things going pretty well with 7.7 but it started getting glitchy and slow. Don't know why because once I had everything running smooth I didn't mess with it anymore. Reboot helped for a little while but started glitching again shortly after.
I decided to go to RLS2, it's running smooth but my lockscreen shortcuts have dissapeared and I can't get them back, any ideas on that??
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oi, I had things going pretty well with 7.7 but it started getting glitchy and slow. Don't know why because once I had everything running smooth I didn't mess with it anymore. Reboot helped for a little while but started glitching again shortly after.
I decided to go to RLS2, it's running smooth but my lockscreen shortcuts have dissapeared and I can't get them back, any ideas on that??
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You might try going into your personalize settings and select a different lock screen, I know there are a couple that take that certain option away LOL I use the weather one with the app selector or the wallpaper with the app selector. Hope it helps
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You might try going into your personalize settings and select a different lock screen, I know there are a couple that take that certain option away LOL I use the weather one with the app selector or the wallpaper with the app selector. Hope it helps
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no good, lock screen isn't displaying the way it should, tried several and nothing changes.
Did a factory reset and the lock screen is working correctly again. There must have been something that glitched when I restored my settings.
Tried restoring my backups and it the lock screen isn't right again. So I guess I either live with it or start from scratch again..
Through this forum and others, I was able to restore my battery life on the epic back to the 20 odd hours. I thought of writing my process here for the benefit of those who might be struggling with similar issues:
ROM: Clean GB
Tools: Better Battery Stats and Battery usage graph (BetterBatteryStats from the market. I think there is another one that is free. I will try and find it. However, the graph referred to is the one that is built it. When you see battery usage, click on the the top part and it shows the graph of battery drain. )
Observation: There is unusual usage of phone when the screen is off. The phone wakes up roughly once every 2-3 minutes even when the screen is off. Battery life between 3 and 5 hours. Emails do not sync or slow to sync.
1. Removing DRM files: The three said files were frozen using Titanium Backup. However, when I looked under battery usage/Android, I would still see DRM listed. So in the end, I UNINSTALLED all three files and the DRM was no longer listed. Not sure how much of a culprit it is but worth mentioning if you are freezing the files assuming they are not coming up. Check under Battery:
2. Calendar: This was the main culprit: Calendar storage was damaged on the phone and so, the phone was constantly polling to sync my calendar, in turn, running the battery down and making the phone slow. Cleared Calendar Storage using Titanium and that fixed the problem of syncing.
Emails:
1. Hotmail : Activesync (now on 1 hour polling)
2. Corporate: IMAP (1 hour)
(Above two running on Enhanced Email client). Not sure if standart client will also work, will test that and post later)
3. Gmail: using gmail app
Worth mentioning, that I used Enhanced Email and turned on logging to really see what was going on, hence coming to the issue of Calendar taking forever to sync.
3. SNS: The symptom was that SNS would be constanting restarting when seen under Applications/ Running services. Freezing the 2 sns files took care of that. Lost facebook status messages etc for contacts but made the phone faster.
4. KERNEL and CWM : Initially, although the phone was rooted, CWM was somehow, not FULLY installed. And for some reason, the phone would go to Sprint Recovery Menu. Also, worth mentioning, kernel usage was high. Installed the Clean_kernel and the latest CWM till I was satisfied the install was good and clean. A good way to test is to watch kernel usage on better battery stats and CWM behaviour when you go to Recovery.
5. Moved all content of SD card to PC and reformatted it. However, my SD card was fine, so did not see a change in performance, however, others might benefit, especially if you have movie files that the system is having a problem parsing.
I will add more if I think I missed something but doing the above took my phone from a paltry 3 hours on standby to more than 20 hours with usage. Totally acceptable and happy.
Hope this helps others.
Thanks, there's some interesting information in your post!
I cannot find either of those battery tools on the market... I also run clean GB...
I took into account what you mentioned, and removed SNS completely, hell I went a step further and just uninstalled the FB app. I will use the mobile site, and that is fine and dandy for me, I don't really need or want the constant notifications anyways.
I recommend the app Juice Defender, get the ultimate version, either pirate or paid, it is well worth it. Manages your 3g and wifi better, turns them off when the aren't needed, turns them on when they are. Really handy, has at least doubled my standby time.
I also recommend getting CPU Master, and having both it and voltage control on boot. CPU master lets you have profiles based on events, like the screen being off, or the battery getting to hot, again setup properly this also has done a number on my standby time.
Since I just flashed this kernel I haven't run a battery test yet, I am using Legendary 2.1 and IAP 2.0.6. Will run a test tonight to see how long the battery lasts for standby, hopefully it will turn on in the morning, it hasn't in the past very often.
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Milkman00 said:
I cannot find either of those battery tools on the market... I also run clean GB...
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I haven't used the graph, in order to find Betterbatterystats it has to be spelled just like that
Yes, BetterBatteryStats from the market. I think there is another one that is free. I will try and find it. However, the graph referred to is the one that is built it. When you see battery usage, click on the the top part and it shows the graph of battery drain.
The important part that I wanted to see was when the screen is off, is there any activity, meaning the phone is not truely speaking. At when the phone was at its worse, there was a activity roughly every 2 minutes. That was the main cause of the battery drain.
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I took into account what you mentioned, and removed SNS completely, hell I went a step further and just uninstalled the FB app. I will use the mobile site, and that is fine and dandy for me, I don't really need or want the constant notifications anyways.
I recommend the app Juice Defender, get the ultimate version, either pirate or paid, it is well worth it. Manages your 3g and wifi better, turns them off when the aren't needed, turns them on when they are. Really handy, has at least doubled my standby time.
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I haven't used the graph, in order to find Betterbatterystats it has to be spelled just like that
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I cant say much about those tools cause I havent really used them. However, in my case, the problem was a bad calendar sync and SNS, I can see Juicedefender would maybe improve the battery life as it wont let the phone connect, but wont necessarily correct the issue at hand. Just my two cents.
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I took into account what you mentioned, and removed SNS completely, hell I went a step further and just uninstalled the FB app. I will use the mobile site, and that is fine and dandy for me, I don't really need or want the constant notifications anyways.
I haven't used the graph, in order to find Betterbatterystats it has to be spelled just like that
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FYI: I have the facebook app installed and it works fine. The problem is in the SNS when you put in your facebook info and it lets you sync fb events etc.
Also, by removing, I am hoping you mean you froze or deleted those two SNS files. Just watch Applications/Running to see if you see SNS there. If not, you are golden.
4hours of battery =) blazerRom is the best out right now. Thought it usually would be at 2% with 3g on and not wifi allday
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My phone stays "awake" constantly. How can I figure out why it is staying awake??? I think that is a big part of my battery problems.
Milkman00 said:
My phone stays "awake" constantly. How can I figure out why it is staying awake??? I think that is a big part of my battery problems.
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Betterbatterystats has a listing of programs under partial wake lock. See which is using up the most time.
hindibuff said:
Worth mentioning, that I used Enhanced Email and turned on logging to really see what was going on, hence coming to the issue of Calendar taking forever to sync.
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How do you turn on logging in enhanced email?
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sethlo said:
How do you turn on logging in enhanced email?
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This might help:
http://enhancedemail.net/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=4&sid=25404e9a1c5b7b2471d2e184a1fbb6e2
saramon said:
I recommend the app Juice Defender, get the ultimate version, either pirate or paid, it is well worth it. Manages your 3g and wifi better, turns them off when the aren't needed, turns them on when they are. Really handy, has at least doubled my standby time.
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I also highly recommend this app, and have realized enormous power savings from it. My phone takes microscopic sips of electrons when in standby with JD.
However, I most emphatically DO NOT recommend that anyone be a thieving, pond-scum, crook with the ethics of a crack whore and obtain a pirated copy of this app, as saramon has recommended above. The author if this app has spent a lot of their time developing it, and should be compensated fairly. It is one of the best supported, most often update apps around. For the value it provides, there really isn't any legitimate argument justifying stealing it to avoid a few bucks.
Shame, saramon, shame.
I purchased JuiceDefender but ended up uninstalling it. Much easier just to toggle wifi and sync on-off manually, rather than tweaking it constantly. I found that the app causes more connection hassles and permission annoyances which offset any battery saving benefits it offers, and is yet another ram-draining backround process that slows my phone.
Never said that I did, but not everyone can afford it, just sayin'
hindibuff said:
3. SNS: The symptom was that SNS would be constanting restarting when seen under Applications/ Running services. Freezing the 2 sns files took care of that. Lost facebook status messages etc for contacts but made the phone faster.
4. KERNEL and CWM : Initially, although the phone was rooted, CWM was somehow, not FULLY installed. And for some reason, the phone would go to Sprint Recovery Menu. Also, worth mentioning, kernel usage was high. Installed the Clean_kernel and the latest CWM till I was satisfied the install was good and clean. A good way to test is to watch kernel usage on better battery stats and CWM behaviour when you go to Recovery.
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I had 2 questions. First, what exactly is SNS? I see it restarting a lot as well, but I've been afraid it was something important so I've always left it alone.
And how would ClockworkMod affect battery life? Doesn't that only come into play when going into recovery mode?
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TheSkipperCDB said:
I had 2 questions. First, what exactly is SNS? I see it restarting a lot as well, but I've been afraid it was something important so I've always left it alone.
And how would ClockworkMod affect battery life? Doesn't that only come into play when going into recovery mode?
Thanks
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If you have SNS restarting it's probably because you removed the stock "Feeds & Updates" widget that came with your phone. Either freeze SNS in Titanium Backup (rooted), put the F&U widget back on one of your screens (unrooted) or kill it after every reboot (unrooted and no F&U widget).
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Never said that I did, but not everyone can afford it, just sayin'
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He's not suggesting that you did. He is just saying that you shouldn't suggest it to others.
Piracy is for children that want to feel savvy because they know how to steal Photoshop. Thepiratebay.org, kat.ph, isohunt, and the various novas aren't original or cool, everyone knows about them. The difference is that some people have grown up and understand that people that do work deserve to be paid for it.
Besides it is what? $2-3? Anyone with the intention to buy a product could afford that.
I bought After Effects, Sony Vegas, and Photoshop Elements. Elements I got on sale for $50. The others were a couple versions old and I got them for $300 and $150 respectively. I am a poor college kid. However, I know I can get a part time job and pay for the things I need and that's what I did. I only needed to work for about a month to buy all my software and now I have a legal license to use it. So Sony and Adobe won't try to steal the rights to everything I make >.>
In short, stuff only seems expensive if you have no intentions of paying for it in the first place. My family lives well below the poverty line and I still can afford a pretty decent production set up. I'm sure anyone could conjure up $2. It's less than a round trip bus ride.
I know this was long enough, but I figure I should mention this isn't an attack on you or anyone else. I feel very strongly about the subject and I would say this regardless of who brings the subject up. I have a lot of friends that disagree with me and I have pirated software in the past, I just think that people deserve the money they worked for. Perhaps prices could even go down if everyone actually paid for their software.
I got some life back out of my battery with CM7. Then went back to ERA legendary. I did all the following:
Wiped / reformatted the sd card, odined and repartitioned, odined ec05, odined CWM5, flashed ei22, flashed the rom, then kernel I wanted to try, multiple setups.... no avail. (Monitoring every combo with battery status)
What I have done now is repackaged the rom, removed the "stock" launcher (swapped for zeam) and a couple apks I though were pointless to me, and replaced the kernel so there is all only one flash. I am really starting to think mix_n_match flashing was causing an issue for me. Also, CWM 5 odined and not using the app is not giving me all the aformentioned issues or running as a background process...
So far my battery life is much better with one flash, but one thing I notice in all cases is after a reboot, better battery stats shows "system" under process tab, always highest on the list. Once charged it goes away until a phone call, reboot, and even after forced sync.
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He's not suggesting that you did. He is just saying that you shouldn't suggest it to others.
Piracy is for children that want to feel savvy because they know how to steal Photoshop. Thepiratebay.org, kat.ph, isohunt, and the various novas aren't original or cool, everyone knows about them. The difference is that some people have grown up and understand that people that do work deserve to be paid for it.
Besides it is what? $2-3? Anyone with the intention to buy a product could afford that.
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my troll post for the day.
I've got a problem with my S8 which is running latest, official, non-rooted XEO firmware. Specifically, it uses battery like crazy and heats up whilst doing nothing. This smells like a virus / malware infection or just... well, the last update was in December 2021 so it's also possible some system component is wonky OR... <shivers> some rootkit? I'm generally rather careful when installing apps, most of which will be coming in from official sources (Google Store) or at least fairly trusted sources.
Every so often I'll get a warning that a system component is using too much CPU and I should restart the phone - which obviously doesn't help at all. Also the battery drain is reported primarily by Android System and System Core (29 and 15% respectively). Battery usage stats generally don't add up because the listings don't add up to 100%. :/
I know the S8 is an old phone... and I know there are probably steps I should take prior to asking here - like a factory reset. But I'm really sceptical of doing a factory reset simply because I've got so much stuff on the phone that, while not impossible to backup, is certainly annoying (authenticator or banking apps for example - and I don't think the standard backup tools like those available from Google or Samsung backup such apps).
So I'd rather try some solutions or methods of dealing with the damned thing without resetting the phone first. Is there anything I can do?
You need to find the root cause. It may be a 3rd party using one or more of the Samsung system apps running under Android services, lol Legend for there are many... all lumped together.
A firewall with logging can help. Karma Firewall is what I use, uses almost no battery. Being rooted you have more options... use them.
Malware is always a possibility.
3rd party apps can cause hell. I don't allow any social media apps on the phone, ever.
Try in safe mode... if things calm down it's likely a 3rd party app. If so start going through the installed apps.
Clear system cache.
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You need to find the root cause. It may be a 3rd party using one or more of the Samsung system apps running under Android services, lol Legend for there are many... all lumped together.
A firewall with logging can help. Karma Firewall is what I use, uses almost no battery.
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Will try that, thanks!
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Being rooted you have more options... use them.
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The phone is NON-rooted.
blackhawk said:
Malware is always a possibility.
3rd party apps can cause hell. I don't allow any social media apps on the phone, ever.
Try in safe mode... if things calm down it's likely a 3rd party app. If so start going through the installed apps.
Clear system cache.
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Oh, safe mode! I'll try that too! Thanks!
Shaamaan said:
Will try that, thanks!
The phone is NON-rooted.
Oh, safe mode! I'll try that too! Thanks!
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Sorry about the root thing, my bad.
If you're running on Android 9 or lower Karma Firewall's logging feature is fully active otherwise not. Samsung store>Galaxy Labs> Battery Tracker can be useful.
I use Accubattery's history page to get a quick idea of charge/discharge rates.
I use Device Care>storage>clean as well.
Make sure no cloud apps are running in the background.
Update: in safe mode the phone doesn't heat up and battery usage seems normal. So it's probably some app.
Alas, the firewall wasn't very helpful - it seemed that apps that attempted accessing the internet were your usual suspects - Play Store, One Drive or other sync apps, Vanced.
Any other suggestions on possibly nailing down the culprit?
PS. I've also decided to send Samsung an error report via the Members app - I don't know what their reply times are and I honestly don't expect much from them but who knows? Perhaps they'll come through.
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Update: in safe mode the phone doesn't heat up and battery usage seems normal. So it's probably some app.
Alas, the firewall wasn't very helpful - it seemed that apps that attempted accessing the internet were your usual suspects - Play Store, One Drive or other sync apps, Vanced.
Any other suggestions on possibly nailing down the culprit?
PS. I've also decided to send Samsung an error report via the Members app - I don't know what their reply times are and I honestly don't expect much from them but who knows? Perhaps they'll come through.
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Why other than maybe text messages is anything syncing? Take out the trash and go from there.
The ones that are connecting every minute or more when not open are prime suspects.
Some apps like Brave browser need to be closed out when not in use or they eat battery.
You can also try a hard reboot.
Update!
I left the phone in safe mode overnight. I mean, it seemed like things were better, so at least I'd have a stable phone.
Well, in the morning I was greeted with a severely depleted battery (went from 100 to 40 in the span of 6 hours) and I got the "high CPU usage" warning popup. The phone wasn't as hot to the touch tho.
So... Whatever is going on seems to happen also in safe mode, albeit less often? Or perhaps it's less "severe" where it doesn't heat up the phone but the drain is still there? But since safe mode is affected it's probably NOT an app, right?
At this point I'm completely baffled. Any other ideas?
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Update!
I left the phone in safe mode overnight. I mean, it seemed like things were better, so at least I'd have a stable phone.
Well, in the morning I was greeted with a severely depleted battery (went from 100 to 40 in the span of 6 hours) and I got the "high CPU usage" warning popup. The phone wasn't as hot to the touch tho.
So... Whatever is going on seems to happen also in safe mode, albeit less often? Or perhaps it's less "severe" where it doesn't heat up the phone but the drain is still there? But since safe mode is affected it's probably NOT an app, right?
At this point I'm completely baffled. Any other ideas?
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Hard reset... hold power button until it powers off.
Try temporarily disabling Google play Services at night, see what that does.
OK, I'm baffled. I feel like I didn't really do anything but the phone is now running fine. Battery drain now might be better than ever!
Warms up on usage, obviously, but when idle it's nice and cool and battery drain seems minimal. I'll... leave it for a few days to see how this develops. It's very difficult to tell what the heck's the case here.
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OK, I'm baffled. I feel like I didn't really do anything but the phone is now running fine. Battery drain now might be better than ever!
Warms up on usage, obviously, but when idle it's nice and cool and battery drain seems minimal. I'll... leave it for a few days to see how this develops. It's very difficult to tell what the heck's the case here.
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Retrace what you did. Reason being you may need to do it again. Really most times all you need to do is just "play" with it a bit (a lot). Almost impossible to crash a stock load, so explore and learn by playing with it. You are what you load and download; be careful with 3rd party apps they are the biggest potential hazards.
Once you have a fast, stable OS that's fulfilling its mission, let it be. Don't update or upgrade it.
Updates can and do break Sammy's. This N10+ is still running on Pie, current load is over 2yo. Rock solid stable and it runs like a bat out of hell with minimal maintenance. Security isn't an issue.
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Retrace what you did. Reason being you may need to do it again. Really most times all you need to do is just "play" with it a bit (a lot). Almost impossible to crash a stock load, so explore and learn by playing with it. You are what you load and download; be careful with 3rd party apps they are the biggest potential hazards.
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I have a suspicion this might have been some Samsung app (my bet's on Bixby) since those are likely still able to run in Safe Mode that got updated and then fixed...? Does that make sense?
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Once you have a fast, stable OS that's fulfilling its mission, let it be. Don't update or upgrade it.
Updates can and do break Sammy's. This N10+ is still running on Pie, current load is over 2yo. Rock solid stable and it runs like a bat out of hell with minimal maintenance. Security isn't an issue.
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I'm concerned about the last bit. I mean, upgrading to a new Android version is one thing but security updates are common, no?
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I have a suspicion this might have been some Samsung app (my bet's on Bixby) since those are likely still able to run in Safe Mode that got updated and then fixed...? Does that make sense?
I'm concerned about the last bit. I mean, upgrading to a new Android version is one thing but security updates are common, no?
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Kill wittle bixby... you read it EULA?☠
It's more than one apk though. Takes a while to optimize a Sammy the first time
Well... if it's set up and used right Android 9 will run securely in the real world. No saving dumb bunnies anyway; they'll still get tagged even with the latest version
The proof is in my hand. Loaded over 2+ years ago and this N10+ UI version 1.5 is running clean like a bat out of hell. If I do get malware I can't erraticate in an hour or so, factory reset and change passwords.
My data is redundantly backed* up 4+ times, plus the onboard SD card used as a data drive. I'm ready to reload right now if I have to...
A malware forced reload is still less trouble than constantly updating and having the updates screw things up. That means more troubleshooting, finding new work arounds and still maybe needing a factory reset on top of all that. No.
Not vaxed either... not buying the hype.
*critical data must be redundantly backed up or sooner or latter it will likely be lost. Never encrypt data drives as you are the most likely to be locked out!
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Kill wittle bixby... you read it EULA?☠
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Oh I'd love that - but it's a system app and removing those without root is kind of... impossible? I can look into disabling it completely however - I never use it anyway. Since it's not a single app - any chance you got a link to the list of apps that need manual disabling?
Anyway, I'm still getting those damned warnings. The phone isn't constantly hot however, which is some improvement.
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Oh I'd love that - but it's a system app and removing those without root is kind of... impossible? I can look into disabling it completely however - I never use it anyway. Since it's not a single app - any chance you got a link to the list of apps that need manual disabling?
Anyway, I'm still getting those damned warnings. The phone isn't constantly hot however, which is some improvement.
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Package Disabler kills bixby proper.
You can also disable it with an adb edit. That's one of the first things I do.
Bixby is a hot mess best dump along the interstate... like Google Assistant it needs external servers for many of its functions. I may change my mind but it's eula is like eating dry hardtack for breakfast.