What do you think we can expect from kernels in the future? - Atrix 4G General

The other day a friend of mine with the new Evo 3D told me that, even while the phone has a locked bootloader and no root, someone was able to overclock the phone to 1.8 Ghz...That's insane! It's 1.2 by default.
Ours is 1.0 of course, what do you think we could max it out at in the future, as more development happens on the phone down the road?
And for that matter, do you think we'd be able to see those "trickle" battery kernel things implemented at some point? I read about those some time ago and it seemed pretty awesome/great for battery life without being limited on usage.
What are some of your thoughts on our kernel-ish future?

Tegra 2 optimization with 1.5 ghz max overclock imo.
I'm not putting my phone past 1.2 though. 1.2 tegra results are 3300ish/2800ish on smartbench, and that's good enough for anything on android atm.
We just need a CM7 build on the atrix. Even if it's not too great. That'll attract a huge crowd to it and then we'll have an even more active dev community.

1.8ghz Evo3d is about equal with a 1.0ghz atrix lol
The Xoom Tegra 2's seem to be overclocking rather well.
1.5ghz looks like the sweet spot.

Magnetox said:
Tegra 2 optimization with 1.5 ghz max overclock imo.
I'm not putting my phone past 1.2 though. 1.2 tegra results are 3300ish/2800ish on smartbench, and that's good enough for anything on android atm.
We just need a CM7 build on the atrix. Even if it's not too great. That'll attract a huge crowd to it and then we'll have an even more active dev community.
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well last night i asked aliasxerog on twitter how the port was going and he said, "I have a kernel in the oven as we speak" I can't wait

msd24200 said:
well last night i asked aliasxerog on twitter how the port was going and he said, "I have a kernel in the oven as we speak" I can't wait
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Whoa whoa whoa hold the phone lol..who is this aliasxerog anyway??
@Kingkuba, what do you mean the 1.8 evo is the same as 1.0 atrix? Honestly I'm a n00b and I always seem to think "the more Ghz the better", which I know is stupid but I can't help it lol.

http://twitter.com/#!/aliasxerog
thebeardedchild said:
Whoa whoa whoa hold the phone lol..who is this aliasxerog anyway??
@Kingkuba, what do you mean the 1.8 evo is the same as 1.0 atrix? Honestly I'm a n00b and I always seem to think "the more Ghz the better", which I know is stupid but I can't help it lol.
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msd24200 said:
http://twitter.com/#!/aliasxerog
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Excellent. So is he one of the guys that had an Atrix Sent to him?
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thebeardedchild said:
Excellent. So is he one of the guys that had an Atrix Sent to him?
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Pretty sure, but hes def devving cm7 roms

Magnetox said:
Pretty sure, but hes def devving cm7 roms
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Cool beans. I had no idea that they had any progress, especially this far along
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thebeardedchild said:
Cool beans. I had no idea that they had any progress, especially this far along
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I think he may be having trouble getting a bootable rom though. So hopefully it works out with his new kernel/magics. Read through his twitter a bit, some golden nugs in there

The moto XOOM, which has Tegra 2, is stable at 1.7 ghz
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How is cooling in the XOOM compared to the Atrix? I know my phone gets hot on the bottom at stock clock when doing processing-heavy tasks... I can't imagine 1.7ghz could be very good.

humjaba said:
How is cooling in the XOOM compared to the Atrix? I know my phone gets hot on the bottom at stock clock when doing processing-heavy tasks... I can't imagine 1.7ghz could be very good.
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It all depends on the voltage.
Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe the clock doesn't affect the heat of the chip, only the voltage does (which can change with the clock, but doesn't have to). So you can have a 1.2 ghz cpu running at 6mv and a 1.0 ghz cpu running at 6mv and they will run at the same temps (if I'm correct).

He tweeted again
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So it seems some of you guys think 1.5 will be the most we might be able to overclock? What would be the reasoning behind this? I mean I've seen a lot of phones, dual core and single core that get up to like 1.8...
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humjaba said:
How is cooling in the XOOM compared to the Atrix? I know my phone gets hot on the bottom at stock clock when doing processing-heavy tasks... I can't imagine 1.7ghz could be very good.
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I have my Xoom stable at 1.6ghz. From what I've read, that seems to be pretty standard, some unlucky soles have to settle for 1.4 (or even less) but there's also a decent number of lucky ones who have it running stably 1.7ghz.
I've had my Atrix for a month or so now, and being international, can't unlock the bootloader (yet). Can't wait to see some custom ROMs/kernels!!

thebeardedchild said:
So it seems some of you guys think 1.5 will be the most we might be able to overclock? What would be the reasoning behind this? I mean I've seen a lot of phones, dual core and single core that get up to like 1.8...
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I say 1.5 is easy for us. Perhaps 1.7/1.8 can come at a later time, but I've seen Faux's kernel on the G2X for 1.5, and that just seems to be a sweet spot for Tegra2.

thebeardedchild said:
Whoa whoa whoa hold the phone lol..who is this aliasxerog anyway??
@Kingkuba, what do you mean the 1.8 evo is the same as 1.0 atrix? Honestly I'm a n00b and I always seem to think "the more Ghz the better", which I know is stupid but I can't help it lol.
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The processor in the Atrix has 2 cores where as the EVO has 1.. that = moar powa!

ChumleyEX said:
The processor in the Atrix has 2 cores where as the EVO has 1.. that = moar powa!
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The evo 3d is dual core though..
Edit: oh I see I accidentally said just evolution, sorry.
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Linpack scores for Droid Wrist over 15 megaflops?!

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according to the Droid Eris linpack scores, evil Eris 3 seems to be coming out as it was posted as one of the roms
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Holy **** he's right though.
Check this out:
http://www.greenecomputing.com/apps/linpack/linpack-by-device/
andrew8806 said:
LMAO.... its become a trend, you guys are mean.. i love it...
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Thinking about buying an incredible...
not because the better specs, but so I can get out of the eris boards :S
That's right Evil Eris 3 and a magical 1.3ghz overclock.
1300mhz???? Hmmmm
They are fake, you can submit anything you want to that site long as you know how.
I thought I read that they had a pretty extensive anti-cheating system in place Maybe someone has liquid cooling in their eris
I can confirm they are fake. I am not, nor have I ever had EE3 on my phone, yet I got 8mflops out of it.
What rom are you running. 8 is pretty amazing. Getting barely 3...
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Mines not fake... Beesley @ 5.45 mflops. 806mhz. not fake. not much to brag about, but no fake.
You guys with the fast speeds, can you post what settings you have your setcpu at, current rom and any tweaks you have? I am running Aloyius v11 MAPS version and only get 2.8
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What rom are you running. 8 is pretty amazing. Getting barely 3...
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I think he was saying "I don't have that rom and yet it says I have 8 mflops even though I never did that" or something. As jcase said, they're probably all fake. There's no way our little old eris could handle 1300mhz without like exploding. Hell I don't even think it could reach it in the first place.
droidkevlar said:
You guys with the fast speeds, can you post what settings you have your setcpu at, current rom and any tweaks you have? I am running Aloyius v11 MAPS version and only get 2.8
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Kevlar,
The ROMs that are the Vanilla ROM's with JIT are the ones that pull down high 4's and low 5's. Aloysius is a sense based the ave scores on these ROMs are 2.8-3.2. I am currently running sense-able and get 3.2. I have ran Eris lightning bolt and gotten 5. Oh my phone was at 729 when doing this.
Sheen160 said:
I think he was saying "I don't have that rom and yet it says I have 8 mflops even though I never did that" or something. As jcase said, they're probably all fake. There's no way our little old eris could handle 1300mhz without like exploding. Hell I don't even think it could reach it in the first place.
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They are fake, some of them are me showing how that site means jack. I can post 200mhz with 200mflops if you want.
jcase said:
They are fake, some of them are me showing how that site means jack. I can post 200mhz with 200mflops if you want.
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Lol I'd like to see that. Not that I don't believe you, I just think it'd be funny.
jonathanphx1 said:
Kevlar,
The ROMs that are the Vanilla ROM's with JIT are the ones that pull down high 4's and low 5's. Aloysius is a sense based the ave scores on these ROMs are 2.8-3.2. I am currently running sense-able and get 3.2. I have ran Eris lightning bolt and gotten 5. Oh my phone was at 729 when doing this.
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OK. So no sense= 1 1/2x speed. I guess I need to decide which none sense ROM to check out. Thanks for the input.
droidkevlar said:
OK. So no sense= 1 1/2x speed. I guess I need to decide which none sense ROM to check out. Thanks for the input.
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Why? Aloysius with OC is plenty fast. You're not gonna get it up to like Nexus one speed if that's what you're trying for. But anyway, I think tainted vanilla would be a good one. I would say vanilladroid but it's outdated and I had lots of problems with it.
Sheen160 said:
Why? Aloysius with OC is plenty fast. You're not gonna get it up to like Nexus one speed if that's what you're trying for. But anyway, I think tainted vanilla would be a good one. I would say vanilladroid but it's outdated and I had lots of problems with it.
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It is fast. BUT I need different ringtones for different callers and v11 doesnt work in that area. So I went back to v6 with my mods. Its decent enough without OC. But I am just amazed at how fast ppl are getting with linpack. I guess its the I just wanna do it myself thing, ya know?
http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/0...-it-compared-to-2-1-oh-only-about-450-faster/

any overclocking guides for the fascinate?

I'm not new to overclocking, but I AM new to Android, so when it comes to overclocking an Android phone, I'm as useless as the next guy.
I noticed people got the i9000 version as well as the Captivate version to overclock to 1.2Ghz, but I can't find anything on the Fascinate. One member mentioned in another thread they overclocked, but I don't see how.
So how do we overclock the Fascinate? If there's a guide out there, it should be a sticky here!
Need overclocked kernels to achieve that, and we don't have any as of yet.
Gotta wait for custom kernels to start rolling out, which will be soon
Man you guys are sick.
The phone is at 1Ghz right now. Almost Twice the speed the original Motorola Droid. And you want to overclock already.
What kind of things are you doing with your phone that need that kind of speed. ..
smilepak said:
Man you guys are sick.
The phone is at 1Ghz right now. Almost Twice the speed the original Motorola Droid. And you want to overclock already.
What kind of things are you doing with your phone that need that kind of speed. ..
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Why would you not want to overclock your phone?
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actually its been said(but not done yet) that these phones can easily overclock to 1.6ghz so its only a matter of time, this will eventually be one of the more popular galaxy s phones bc its on vzw which is prolly the largest network in the world if not very close. cant wait for this ****. i really dont know if vzw is that big but u would think it is
ksizzle9 said:
actually its been said(but not done yet) that these phones can easily overclock to 1.6ghz so its only a matter of time, this will eventually be one of the more popular galaxy s phones bc its on vzw which is prolly the largest network in the world if not very close. cant wait for this ****. i really dont know if vzw is that big but u would think it is
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Seriously? 1.6ghz? Where did these numbers come from just wondering? Not that I don't believe you just skeptical. If those facts are true that's freaking awesome!
u can go to the irc chat for the i9000(international SGS) Or prolly find it n xda under i9000 I know its been said it can be done but hasn't been yet. This isn't like the Snapdragon or Dx, D2 processors that are basically maxed out at 1ghz. I don't know any specifics bit I believe it. Hit the forums and chatrooms. If I'm wrong my bad. But I know its been said at some point that this processor is capable. If u ask or find it post back with any recent info.
they call me...kick ass
http://www.intomobile.com/2010/08/1...ck-hits-1-2ghz-delivers-off-chart-benchmarks/
I can't wait for stuff like this to start coming out
My phone made words....
ksizzle9 said:
actually its been said(but not done yet) that these phones can easily overclock to 1.6ghz so its only a matter of time, this will eventually be one of the more popular galaxy s phones bc its on vzw which is prolly the largest network in the world if not very close. cant wait for this ****. i really dont know if vzw is that big but u would think it is
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oh yes they can mine was for a bit i went back down to 1.2 though
lordmalice said:
oh yes they can mine was for a bit i went back down to 1.2 though
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No, they cannot.
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1.6 ghz = Fast as hell FOR 10 Mins then kaput

Where To Buy An "Employee" N1?

I already own an N1 that I bought at release, but I've always wanted to pick up an Employee version of the phone...as I've heard it has a significantly higher overclock capability, plus I love the back cover
Anybody know if these are possible to pick up, and if so, where?
Ebay.......
Sometimes I see one on ebay. But really, all I want is the fancy battery cover.
Is there actually a difference in cpu? How have I never heard of this lol
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Source for this? I have no idea how it would be more overclockable than any other nexus...faik it's just a fancy cover.
Employee copies were "BETA" devices, for testing purposes. I have heard from several developers that they had a higher overclock capability..
HighTech216 said:
Sometimes I see one on ebay. But really, all I want is the fancy battery cover.
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Me too. Anyone have a source?
A source for
1) A phone that hasn't been made for over a year
2) A phone that was never sold to the public
Sure. http://lmgtfy.com/?q=ebay&l=1
GldRush98 said:
A source for
1) A phone that hasn't been made for over a year
2) A phone that was never sold to the public
Sure. http://lmgtfy.com/?q=ebay&l=1
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Source, as in where he got the info about the OC capabilities and such.
not true. the same exact cpu.
simms22 said:
not true. the same exact cpu.
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That's exactly what they want you to think
uoY_redruM said:
Employee copies were "BETA" devices, for testing purposes. I have heard from several developers that they had a higher overclock capability..
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I have one, and although I haven't tested any high overclock kernels, it seems to be identical to the normal one and performs pretty much the same at any clock from 800mhz to 1100mhz
wdfowty said:
That's exactly what they want you to think
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i had a chance to "unbrick" one earlier in the year. the owner soft bricked it and thought the world was over. the only thing that was different about the employee(holiday) edition nexus one was the spl. everything else was exactly the same.
GldRush98 said:
A source for
1) A phone that hasn't been made for over a year
2) A phone that was never sold to the public
Sure. http://lmgtfy.com/?q=ebay&l=1
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Sorry if I was not explicit enough for you to discern my meaning. I ment a source for the 'Holiday edition' battery door.
yep same cpu actually you can oc and make it faster using cm6 or another rom running at 1113.6 or 1119.3
pauloalvn said:
yep same cpu actually you can oc and make it faster using cm6 or another rom running at 1113.6 or 1119.3
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lol. It's the modified kernel that allows an overclock, not the rom. It's not even worth OCing imho. All that risk for 113-119 mHz...And no noticeable difference (outside of benchmarks, which don't matter anyways).
With CM6 final and wildmonk kernel I overclock to 1228mhz with no problem. Now having it over clock to 1. 4 gh will be impressive
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sl8125 said:
With CM6 final and wildmonk kernel I overclock to 1228mhz with no problem. Now having it over clock to 1. 4 gh will be impressive
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I've never seen the point in risking a $500+ phone to squeeze better benchmarks out of it. To each his own, I guess.
Again, the rom you use has no affect on overclock capabilities. It's all the kernel and SetCPU.
Nice post count btw! lol
I like to max out the phone much as I can. It not line it runs at max all time only when its on. It will reduce the life of the phone. But do ever use the phone over a year or two. Nope. Its all a preference. Also you feel the difference on speed with oc.
And what about my post count? I am no dev. I am a phone enthusiast. I come here to get info and share my experience with the mods. Sorry if my post count is not to your liking.
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sl8125 said:
I like to max out the phone much as I can. It not line it runs at max all time only when its on. It will reduce the life of the phone. But do ever use the phone over a year or two. Nope. Its all a preference. Also you feel the difference on speed with oc.
And what about my post count? I am no dev. I am a phone enthusiast. I come here to get info and share my experience with the mods. Sorry if my post count is not to your liking.
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No no no you misunderstand. It was a compliment, 420 is a "sacred" number in California (and the US at large). Waaaay off topic, my apologies [OP]. Had to.
No disrespect intended.

if you havent see this beast from samsung, you better see

while i was looking for g2x specs, i found this beast from samsung...
http://www.gsmarena.com/14_ghz_samsung_i9001_galaxy_s_plus_with_gingerbread_surfaces-news-2467.php
1.4 GHz man on the new i9001
go see that
Who would buy this, the SG2 is coming out anyways...............
man that thing has a 1.4 GHz processor..lorrd
Wait wait wait... will the be the EURO version again? because thats a bunch of BS.
I want some good phones back in the USA too!
xriderx66 said:
Who would buy this, the SG2 is coming out anyways...............
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exactly!123
xriderx66 said:
Wait wait wait... will the be the EURO version again? because thats a bunch of BS.
I want some good phones back in the USA too!
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those whores just launch in eu
rel500 said:
exactly!123
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yeah i thinkk man...
as of current it will only be available in russia and as for the 1.4 ghz cpu, it's a single core chip. give me a 1.2 dual core over a 1.4 single any day.
S2 all the way man!!!!!!!!!
Old news--not really accurate either.
Adreno? No thanks
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Nice find... but STILL no LED flash?! C'mon, Samsung. -.-'
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Lol, im running on bullet @1.42 ghz plus I have a gpu that is not outdated, so my graphivs power is beasty compared to this snap****!!!
Yea i dont think this will ever make it to the US and to be honest with the gs2 coming out i dont think anyone will care
I'll buy it. when it is sold. looks good
It's over 9000.
helikido said:
Lol, im running on bullet @1.42 ghz plus I have a gpu that is not outdated, so my graphivs power is beasty compared to this snap****!!!
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Exactly. I already have a phone with a 1.4ghz processor. I'm sure as hell not gonna go spend $700 on the exact same phone.

LTE Nexus coming to Sprint! WooHoo!

http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...sibly-blows-sprints-biggest-ces-announcement/
Still a rumor of course, but the advertisement for their hopeful announcement at CES is awesome!
I love my Evo, but I've been waiting for this. LTE is just the icing on the cake. I imagined a Wimax version of the Nexus rather than an LTE one. Pretty cool.
They've already said the nexus may be available by the end of quarter 1; also, I love how the ad shows it at 1.5 GHz, when its 1.2Ghz.
teh roxxorz said:
They've already said the nexus may be available by the end of quarter 1; also, I love how the ad shows it at 1.5 GHz, when its 1.2Ghz.
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Never know they might just clock the cpu at 1.5 and release it
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evo4gnoob said:
Never know they might just clock the cpu at 1.5 and release it
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They could...but they'd have to be pretty ballsy.
Yeap, I am also waiting on sprint next android that has lte and this may be it if HTC doesn't release anything this year.
By the time the nexus hits us it will be too late something cooler will be out
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I really really want the Nexus but I was afraid when Verizon got an exclusive something like this would happen.. We would get the phone 6 months too late..
Grrr!! So the latest and greatest wont be so latest and greatest by the time this sees the light of day on Sprint..
I can't afford $500+ phones anymore so I have to do them when I sign a new contract. So I want the absolute latest thats available at the time..Not some 6 month old phone..
I dunno maybe I am being unreasonable..Might as well wait for the SGS3
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teh roxxorz said:
They've already said the nexus may be available by the end of quarter 1; also, I love how the ad shows it at 1.5 GHz, when its 1.2Ghz.
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The chip is stock at 1.5 GHz, they downclocked it when they put it into the GNex, all they have to do it let it run at stock, it's really not that uncommon.
I personally would probably be downclocking it to around 1Ghz myself just to save battery, even 1.2 seems like overkill to me.
Pao23 said:
The chip is stock at 1.5 GHz, they downclocked it when they put it into the GNex, all they have to do it let it run at stock, it's really not that uncommon.
I personally would probably be downclocking it to around 1Ghz myself just to save battery, even 1.2 seems like overkill to me.
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Oh I know...I'm in electronics...but I figured Sprint might try 1.5 to entice people to buy it. And 1.5GHz is massive overkill, but great for gaming, ect.
kmartburrito said:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...sibly-blows-sprints-biggest-ces-announcement/
Still a rumor of course, but the advertisement for their hopeful announcement at CES is awesome!
I love my Evo, but I've been waiting for this. LTE is just the icing on the cake. I imagined a Wimax version of the Nexus rather than an LTE one. Pretty cool.
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Unknown why would u imagine a WiMax version when Sprint is eliminating WiMax and moving on to LTE?
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DatFiyaBoricua said:
Unknown why would u imagine a WiMax version when Sprint is eliminating WiMax and moving on to LTE?
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Sprint will still be supporting Wimax until 2015
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DatFiyaBoricua said:
Unknown why would u imagine a WiMax version when Sprint is eliminating WiMax and moving on to LTE?
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I think he meant more of a dual band, where it could be potentially changed via OTA, to get more people behind the nexus, because sprint KNOWS people want it.

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