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Motorola Photon?

This isnt the forum for this but this is where most of the sprint users go (and the evo forum)
I've seen all the topics about evo3d vs the GS2 but nothing on the motorola photon.
the specs are on the internet, but I'm not exactly sure how those specs would stack up to the GS2 or the evo3d.
I work right next to the motorola building in Ft. Lauderdale and I was able to talk to some of the people working on the phone and even use one of theres for a second.
It was running gingerbread with motoblur (although this version of motoblur looked really nice, and they told me it can be turned off.
They also told me that it will have a locked bootloader
They said they were told it was going to release by july 31st.
The phone felt very solid in my hand had some weight to it kinda like an iphone.
I manage a restaurant so i kind of overheard them talking about stuff like getting stuff through fcc and all sorts of debugging that had to do with problems popping back up on them. It was just very interesting to hear because it sounded like talk from these forums.
I wish i would have got a picture because I cant seem to find anything online thats not stock picture of the device.
What does everyone think? Will it be a good upgrade from the epic?

Here's what people think bro.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1117250&highlight=Sammiches

Lol I love that it says highlights=sammiches
iSaint said:
Here's what people think bro.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1117250&highlight=Sammiches
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steviee7 said:
Lol I love that it says highlights=sammiches
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Ha i know right

The Photon is not an upgrade from the Epic in any conceivable way. It has a lesser quality LCD display, weaker processor, locked bootloader (enjoy the stock rom and slight variants because that's all they get) and motorola's poor customer support.

063_XOBX said:
The Photon is not an upgrade from the Epic in any conceivable way. It has a lesser quality LCD display, weaker processor, locked bootloader (enjoy the stock rom and slight variants because that's all they get) and motorola's poor customer support.
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I wouldn't be so unequivocal...
The Photon has a dual core processor, the Epic has a single core, plus it has a larger, and higher resolution display from the Epic. The guy who reviewed it from Phonescoop said the screen on the Photon is excellent, particularly compared to other motos. It also has the webtop software. As for the bootloader, Sprint will have to decide whether to let Motorola unlock it later in the year. If the bootloader does get unlocked then I personally would definitely consider it an upgrade from the Epic.
To the OP: it sounds like they are having issues with the FCC approval. That's not unusual. It's what held up the EVO 3D's release for a while too.

Had Sprint not f'd us over with the Premier program changes back in April, I'd be jumping from the Epic to the Photon on august 1st once my upgrade window opens. But no, no more yearly upgrade for one line, just 1/2 discount.

Looks like it is missing the keyboard too. Downgrade from the Epic.

No keyboard = not for me, but I saw the unboxing video online and it looked pretty solid. A friend of mine has a droid 3 on vzw, and if its ant indication of average moto ****, I like it. I do wanna see how they handle the unlocking of the bootloader.
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I've been playing with it for the past couple of days, and I gotta say it's a really solid device. The webtop app is amazing, and I've been considering this phone just for that reason. All the different boot up options intrigue me as I don't know what they do. I'm not the biggest fan of the display as it's a pentile lcd, and I'm one of those people who can see the miniscule dots every time I look at it a certain way.
Also, I'm pretty confident moto will unlock it in time. I don't think OEMs can afford to alienate the dev community any longer.
Id say it has HUGE development potential, but sadly I don't think many devs will buy it. One of the main reasons I'm holding out for the within.
Which I hope, I hope, I hope, please god, give it a bigger dev community than the epic. I just might cry if it's left in the dust again by htc's inferior hardware.
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Locked bootloader
There will be an update to unlock the bootloader, according to Motorola.

Sprint's Motorola Photon 4G available July 31 for $199 on contract

http://www.androidcentral.com/sprints-motorola-photon-4g-available-july-31-199-contract
I'm waiting on the SG2 but for all you Photon fans

Meh. I think it looks ugly and MOTOBLUR just makes it that much more undesirable.

CDKJudoka said:
Meh. I think it looks ugly and MOTOBLUR just makes it that much more undesirable.
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The locked bootloader makes it undesirable.
They unlock that and we could possibly talk.

I'm not considering it but I do like it's angular design & the kickstand.

mattykinsx said:
The locked bootloader makes it undesirable
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Yeah that was something I forgot to mention.

Motorola Android phones on Verizon test well in battery life on anandtech.com. Hopefully this will be the same for their Sprint phones.
I'm probably going to save my upgrade for the next Nexus phone.
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Im a former DroidX and Droid 2 owner and as far as hardware, Moto does it right. Best battery life and radios of any other phones ive had. I think Moto will follow through and unlock bootloaders later this year. So ill be getting a Photon on launch day.

mikeyinid said:
Im a former DroidX and Droid 2 owner and as far as hardware, Moto does it right. Best battery life and radios of any other phones ive had. I think Moto will follow through and unlock bootloaders later this year. So ill be getting a Photon on launch day.
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Are you going to make a Rom for it once the bootloader is unlocked? Thinking about getting this phone.
I had the NS4G and really liked your rom, but had to return the phone because of the dropped calls.
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I heard they had no plans on opening / unlocking the Photon ... ?
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conqu1stador said:
I heard they had no plans on opening / unlocking the Photon ... ?
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Motorola pretty much said the same thing as HTC. They will be unlocking bootloaders later this year. But, Moto also said it will be up to the carrier. Im almost certain Sprint will go with unlocked...Not to mention the Atrix has been hacked and they now have unlocked bootloaders.

Yeah, I remember hearing Moto say as much but also remember seeing, 'somewhere', that the plans didn't include the Photon even though it was a 'future' device. If I remember where, I'd hunt it down. It might not have been official but I am certain it was a Moto statement. It was a while ago ... hope it isn't the case as I know some folks are pretty interested in the device.
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mquinn24 said:
Are you going to make a Rom for it once the bootloader is unlocked? Thinking about getting this phone.
I had the NS4G and really liked your rom, but had to return the phone because of the dropped calls.
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I had to return mine too :/ But I will get another soon. I will probably do something on the Photon, probably very basic though, i.e. debloat and maybe change a few of the awful blur/gb images lol.

mikeyinid said:
I had to return mine too :/ But I will get another soon. I will probably do something on the Photon, probably very basic though, i.e. debloat and maybe change a few of the awful blur/gb images lol.
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Sweet, that's all I ask for
Props to the SGII (if does make it stateside) but I think people are going to be pleasantly surprised with the Photon.
Immediate pro's I see are:
- better signal (not a given but Moto's track record suggests it might be)
- dedicated camera button like the the 3D (I know you can shortcut it from the
home screen but it's note the same as a hardware button)
- kickstand since I don't use a case and love to pop it out for the kids to watch
movies while we're out to eat
- accessories (like the car dock) and provided HDMI cable
- higher resolution screen means more screenspace
- world phone for the possible yearly trip abroad
Likely con's:
- motoblur although having given up HTC Sense I've found I like stock android
better with my aged hero
- non AMOLED screen (SGII evidently rocks)
- initial locked bootloader
- older Tegra 2 when Tegra 3 is evidently due out later this year and is 5x faster
Anxious to see how it stacks up head to head in testing with the 3D since spec wise that things a beast.

Also doesn't have the newer 800MHz band that Sprint is migrating to.. other FCC passed phones starting with the EVO 3D have this. They're supposed to start the migration at the end of the year. It'll be a long process, but it should help with coverage down the road.

spaulding-grandmaster said:
Sweet, that's all I ask for
Props to the SGII (if does make it stateside) but I think people are going to be pleasantly surprised with the Photon.
Immediate pro's I see are:
- better signal (not a given but Moto's track record suggests it might be)
- dedicated camera button like the the 3D (I know you can shortcut it from the
home screen but it's note the same as a hardware button)
- kickstand since I don't use a case and love to pop it out for the kids to watch
movies while we're out to eat
- accessories (like the car dock) and provided HDMI cable
- higher resolution screen means more screenspace
- world phone for the possible yearly trip abroad
Likely con's:
- motoblur although having given up HTC Sense I've found I like stock android
better with my aged hero
- non AMOLED screen (SGII evidently rocks)
- initial locked bootloader
- older Tegra 2 when Tegra 3 is evidently due out later this year and is 5x faster
Anxious to see how it stacks up head to head in testing with the 3D since spec wise that things a beast.
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Stock, the Photon should beat the 3D in all benchmarks, the Atrix does. And the screen is actually very nice on these new dual core Motos. Granted, its not samoled, but still nice none the less.

It's possible it won't, but this will likely have a Pentile display too, so it won't be quite as sharp as the EVO 3D's display.

I'm excited for the phone, but i don't want to wait for and upgrade, i guess ill just have to pony up the dough (im guessing around $600?) haha

The more I see about this phone the more I like it. Looks a lot like the EVO to me. More than the 3D does. The dock option is just wicked with the tablet like interface and USB ability. My phone is mostly for business so it has some better features for me. Would be nice to have a phone with better battery life without having to rely on extended battery.
I was going to wait for the SGS2 also but by the time it hits Sprint other devices will beat the pants off it as far as speed goes. Hear quad core processors are in the works for maybe even Q4 of this year.
Still on the fence about burning my upgrade.

jreuschl said:
Also doesn't have the newer 800MHz band that Sprint is migrating to.. other FCC passed phones starting with the EVO 3D have this. They're supposed to start the migration at the end of the year. It'll be a long process, but it should help with coverage down the road.
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So what is the 800Mhz listed here?
Bands/Modes
WiMAX 2.5, WCDMA 850/1900/2100, CDMA 800/1900, GSM 850/900/1900, CDMA EV-DO Release A, EDGE Class 12, GPRS Class 12
taken from http://mediacenter.motorola.com/Fact-Sheets/Motorola-PHOTON-4G-Fact-Sheet-36f3.aspx

CCallahan said:
The more I see about this phone the more I like it. Looks a lot like the EVO to me. More than the 3D does. The dock option is just wicked with the tablet like interface and USB ability. My phone is mostly for business so it has some better features for me. Would be nice to have a phone with better battery life without having to rely on extended battery.
I was going to wait for the SGS2 also but by the time it hits Sprint other devices will beat the pants off it as far as speed goes. Hear quad core processors are in the works for maybe even Q4 of this year.
Still on the fence about burning my upgrade.
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I agree. With quad cores possibly coming out late this year and the rumors of the Nexus Prime, really hate to get a Tegra 2 based phone. Then again, any technology buy is going to be dated the moment it's in your hands and thus as long as it does what I want it for which for me appears the Photon just might, it's probably better to get a phone sooner rather than later so that the upgrade timer becomes eligible again sooner

Ok I need yall help badly thinking of returning the evo3d for SGS2

Ok I purchased the evo3d on launch day, but I am not satisfied with it at all, now my disclaimer I HATE SAMSUNG but it was due to the old samsung phones A460, A600, A660. The Sprint epic had so many problems that i only had it for 4 days then returned it. I said a long time ago I would never buy a samsung phone again. Well I think i might have lied. Im seriously am thinking of buying the new Sprint within aka SGS2 with it launches in aug. I have been a HTC user for 8 years since the 6600 but Im so dissatisfied in the performance of the evo3d and htc with its locked bootloaders. Now the one thing I might have to give up is sense I will miss it but Im hearing good things about this exynos chip on the sgs2. I need someone to assure me that the problems with the epic will not be in the sgs2 like micro sd problems or black screen of death or bluetooth dropping in and out or the major one GPS issues. I have to make up my mind in the next 48 hours. Can any one really offer some real information to help my situation. I dont need fanboy help, I need real input. I told myself I wouldnt come to the dark side but Vader is calling me.

Sound like me man LOL.... Only thing is, there will be no exynos CPU in the US versions....been confirmed in the fcc filings. Now that could change I suppose. But as of now, they will have tegra 2 chips
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HTC will unlock its bootloaders in September. Yesterday I got in a cloudburst, my phone got really wet and behaves strangely. I will buy an evo 3d if my sgs2 dies. I really do miss sense a lot.I think in the end software experience is more important than pure raw hardware power.
Btw I had a samsung non-smartphone before and I hated it and said to myself I would never buy a samsung again but the sgs2 is a very good phone though even though I still prefer sense

lol. you guys in the u.s. deserve better man...get the gs2...its fanfuckintastic...
sent from my galaxy S2.

Haven't had any issues with gps, bluetooth, or black screens of death so I think you might like it lol
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Haha, been through the 'never samsung again' phase too (i7500) but the i9100 really is a wonderful phone and I'm glad I didn't buy the evo3d, which I also considered for some time...
Ps: I went through the 'never htc again' after the infamous missing 2d/3d drivers of the Kaiser.
Lesson to be learned: we're all these corporations' biatches. Buy the phone ;p
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Haha, been through the 'never samsung again' phase too (i7500) but the i9100 really is a wonderful phone and I'm glad I didn't buy the evo3d, which I also considered for some time...
Ps: I went through the 'never htc again' after the infamous missing 2d/3d drivers of the Kaiser.
Lesson to be learned: we're all these corporations' biatches. Buy the phone ;p
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Lmao @ drivers. I remember that ****. That phones video performance was horrible. Soon as the lights git dim, u could forget about using the camera for video or stills lol
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randy2 said:
Ok I purchased the evo3d on launch day, but I am not satisfied with it at all, now my disclaimer I HATE SAMSUNG but it was due to the old samsung phones A460, A600, A660. The Sprint epic had so many problems that i only had it for 4 days then returned it. I said a long time ago I would never buy a samsung phone again. Well I think i might have lied. Im seriously am thinking of buying the new Sprint within aka SGS2 with it launches in aug. I have been a HTC user for 8 years since the 6600 but Im so dissatisfied in the performance of the evo3d and htc with its locked bootloaders. Now the one thing I might have to give up is sense I will miss it but Im hearing good things about this exynos chip on the sgs2. I need someone to assure me that the problems with the epic will not be in the sgs2 like micro sd problems or black screen of death or bluetooth dropping in and out or the major one GPS issues. I have to make up my mind in the next 48 hours. Can any one really offer some real information to help my situation. I dont need fanboy help, I need real input. I told myself I wouldnt come to the dark side but Vader is calling me.
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You have to look at this way. Every comment on this board is about the international SGS2 (GT-i9100). The original SGS1 (GT-i9000) didn't have anywhere near the problems of the basterdized versions that had pretty drastic hardware and software changes as demanded by the four U.S. carriers. The GT-i9000 was updated to 2.3.4 about two weeks ago and received regular updates along the way. Most of which were ignored by the U.S. carriers pissing people off who then blamed Samsung.
Sprint may have ordered a bunch of changes to the SGS2 for their version. From the leaked pics the back of the phone is different, the corners look rounder, and it appears to be thicker. Regadless, it's a CDMA/Wi-Max phone so it'll have little in common with the GSM international version. You'll be dependent on Sprint for updates, features of the international version may be gone or replaced, and you won't be able to flash international ROMs.
So until the phone's actually out, it's hard to say how much Sprint molestation was done to it. The fundamentals will be solid like the display, processor, and camera. But things like call quality, Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, and GPS may be different because of the different radio(s).
It could be another Epic or Sprint could leave the phone basically alone except for what had to be changed to support CDMA/Wi-Max. Until it's out, no one will know.

I returned my Evo 3d 2 days ago. The next day I hear that the devs have gotten s-off. Oh well, anyway, I am going to wait till the Within comes out. And see how it is. Then if I don't like it, I will go back to the 3d, or some other phone. Just hope it comes out soon. Went back to a Palm pre, and it is killing me!

E3d...falls short compared to expectations. You'll know in 10 minutes its no contest.
I use Launcher Pro...makes it even faster.
Anyone have hands on with performances on these two different chips? Wouldn't imagine you'd detect much on this device?

Thanks for everyones feedback but if the u.s version is tegra 2 then i might keep my evo3d I might have to sell my evo3d on craigslist and wait past my 30 days, which is up Saturday and Im really disappointed in the evo3d but im so so so scared of a samsung device although the more i see it the more I might make the jump. decisions decisions. From all of my research the tegra 2 is the least of the three,(exynos,msm8660,tegra 2) all 1.2's can anyone speak on the chips in the non-exynos sgs2's

If you like rooting and Custom Roms and are a general XDA user i'd never buy a completely new phone when you dont know anything about it and if its gonna have root and stuff^^
I havent had the evo3d in hands because its not out in my country but i tested the SGS2 and the Sensation alot. So i have to emphasize this is my PERSONAL opinion
I have a DesireHD. I love it. It has gotten some bad reviews in the beginning when it first came out especially about battery life. Now with custom roms based on 2.3.3 it lasts me 2days and the UI is 100% smooth. But the bad reviews still stick i think...
To come to your decision, all 3 phones (sgs2, evo3d, sensation) are very new and still have problems. The sensation looks very nice but the one i tested was quite laggy. Sense 3d ran better on my DHD than on the sensation... I tried it side by side in the store, and still has locked bootloader - but HTC will unlock it so in a few months the Sensation maybe has awesome custom roms. Its too early to tell.
SGS2, nice phone hardware wise, but most ugly and useless software that i tried based on Android. When you're used to sense it just gives you nothing And when you're used to beautiful clear shiny SLCD screens you'll maybe have some problems with the OLED from the sgs2. The model i had in hand looked aweful compared to my DHD, the colors just arent right. There may be better ones but for me white white is much more important than black black. If that makes sense^^
About the chip: The sgs2 exynox is a powerful chip. But software does not really support it atm. For example Gameloft games. At least tegra2 has some cool games... I prefer qualcomm chip based phones - there i know i'll have compatibility.
So in my opinion the new dualcore phones do not have ANY advantage over singlecore 1ghz phones ATM (ok hdmi out is nice to have ). Who knows what will be in half a year when the software is better for the dualcore babies. But now? But these are just my thoughts.
I guess SGS2 will have good custom software faster than any other phone because of its popularity. If you can find one with a good screen and nice colors i guess go for it

clouds5 said:
If you like rooting and Custom Roms and are a general XDA user i'd never buy a completely new phone when you dont know anything about it and if its gonna have root and stuff^^
I havent had the evo3d in hands because its not out in my country but i tested the SGS2 and the Sensation alot. So i have to emphasize this is my PERSONAL opinion
I have a DesireHD. I love it. It has gotten some bad reviews in the beginning when it first came out especially about battery life. Now with custom roms based on 2.3.3 it lasts me 2days and the UI is 100% smooth. But the bad reviews still stick i think...
To come to your decision, all 3 phones (sgs2, evo3d, sensation) are very new and still have problems. The sensation looks very nice but the one i tested was quite laggy. Sense 3d ran better on my DHD than on the sensation... I tried it side by side in the store, and still has locked bootloader - but HTC will unlock it so in a few months the Sensation maybe has awesome custom roms. Its too early to tell.
SGS2, nice phone hardware wise, but most ugly and useless software that i tried based on Android. When you're used to sense it just gives you nothing And when you're used to beautiful clear shiny SLCD screens you'll maybe have some problems with the OLED from the sgs2. The model i had in hand looked aweful compared to my DHD, the colors just arent right. There may be better ones but for me white white is much more important than black black. If that makes sense^^
About the chip: The sgs2 exynox is a powerful chip. But software does not really support it atm. For example Gameloft games. At least tegra2 has some cool games... I prefer qualcomm chip based phones - there i know i'll have compatibility.
So in my opinion the new dualcore phones do not have ANY advantage over singlecore 1ghz phones ATM (ok hdmi out is nice to have ). Who knows what will be in half a year when the software is better for the dualcore babies. But now? But these are just my thoughts.
I guess SGS2 will have good custom software faster than any other phone because of its popularity. If you can find one with a good screen and nice colors i guess go for it
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Try and play a 1080p movie in a Single core 1ghz phone,then you will see the difference ..
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Try and play a 1080p movie in a Single core 1ghz phone,then you will see the difference ..
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You mean 1080p Adobe Flash video?
What I don't like about LCD is that it can't display black, but OLED can display all colors.

Any heavy complex multitasking condition on a device proves the value of dual core.

First, I want to clear some things up here..
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Sound like me man LOL.... Only thing is, there will be no exynos CPU in the US versions....been confirmed in the fcc filings. Now that could change I suppose. But as of now, they will have tegra 2 chips
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I believe you are refering to this article: http://www.engadget.com/2011/07/06/another-galaxy-s-ii-passes-through-the-fcc-possibly-rockin-a-t/ (or another article on a different site).
If you look at the model number closely, you will see that the Tegra 2 phone that you are talking about has the model number GT-I9103. This is not the US galaxy SII. It is the Galaxy Z, the more "affordable little brother." (http://www.engadget.com/2011/07/01/samsung-galaxy-z-galaxy-s-iis-affordable-little-brother-now/).
I'm not confirming that the US varieties of the SGSII will not have Tegra 2s, but I'm saying that there was no confirmations of US SGSIIs having Tegra 2s in the first place.
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Sprint may have ordered a bunch of changes to the SGS2 for their version. From the leaked pics the back of the phone is different, the corners look rounder, and it appears to be thicker.
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From the Epic forums, some people are saying that the leaked picture wasn't the Galaxy SII (within), but it is the Sprint's version of the Infuse. But I have no sources for this one.
Anyways, personally, I recommend that you hold out until the Galaxy SII for Sprint comes out. On paper, the SGSII beats the Evo 3D in almost every spec criteria. HTC has better support and more timely updates though.
But I'm waiting for the Within.

Evo to Photon 4g waiting room

Till the photon 4g forums gets set up. I hear its going to be within the week. I figured it couldn't hurt to have a spot where EVO owners like myself who decided to pick up the Photon 4g can discuss there thoughts and comments comparing the 2 phones. so prospective EVO owners who want to switch can see what we think. I know when i was searching for this info before i got mine today, I couldn't find much. I will try to post something of a comparison after i get this thing fully set up and I've had some sleep.
Good luck all and tear this thing up!
Edit: My Sudu-Review.

Picked up my Photon today it's sick, I'm glad i held off on getting the 3d.
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Am I the only one that absolutely hates the pentile display? It looks like grainy pixelated garbage... I've played extensively with Evo 3D and have used an Evo 4G for a year, and both of those look much better than the Photon's display... Everything has a checkerboard texture to it. Its awful.

I see what you mean by the pixilation. but my reds and whites are brighter. So i guess its a tradeoff. but in normal day to day use you won't notice the difference. and i love the feel of the gorilla glass its awesome.

Besides the tegra chipset whats the difference between this and the EVO?

I don't think there much difference other than the 3d part

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Besides the tegra chipset whats the difference between this and the EVO?
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The Photon has 16GB of NAND, the Evo 3D has 4GB.
Different GPU. Different Camera.
The Photon has an encrypted bootloader than may never be unlocked.

mattykinsx said:
The Photon has 16GB of NAND, the Evo 3D has 4GB.
Different GPU. Different Camera.
The Photon has an encrypted bootloader than may never be unlocked.
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Last part is very true. but I'm really hoping they will unlock it. I didn't even bother with the 3d cuz i didn't feel it was an upgrade from the OG Evo. I also couldn't care less for the way HTC did their 3D technology. The photon was appealing for its specs as well as the fact that its a world phone.
So far it feels speedy fast compared to my OG Evo. the photon is a tad thicker but feels better in the hand. Not sure if which phone is heavier but i really love the feel of the photon (did i mention that already). Im still setting up my phone so i can't speak for software yet. But mobile hotspot works great here on 4g...

Took a while for the Atrix to get rooted, but they did it. And Motorola is supposed to do the OTA roll-out unlocked bootloader thing... they just need to hurry it up.
I need to head down to my local Sprint store and start looking at the phones to compare... unfortunately my upgrade isn't until September

tropicalbrit said:
Took a while for the Atrix to get rooted, but they did it. And Motorola is supposed to do the OTA roll-out unlocked bootloader thing... they just need to hurry it up.
I need to head down to my local Sprint store and start looking at the phones to compare... unfortunately my upgrade isn't until September
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Can you provide proof of that claim? Never saw anything about it.
Also, might be a good thing it's for September, by then all the options will be out [Including the Within] and all rooted by then as well.

I guess Motorola is planning on unlocking the bootloader by the end of 2011 (article)
I guess time will tell
I just saw all the specs and whatnot..looks pretty cool..

fergie716 said:
I guess Motorola is planning on unlocking the bootloader by the end of 2011 (article)
I guess time will tell
I just saw all the specs and whatnot..looks pretty cool..
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Eh, I want to believe them because that would mean all phones are going to be unlocked from all Android manufacturers....but.... "starting in late 2011" sounds like...."eh, we'll get around to it...if you don't forget"

Does Evo. 3D have tegra. 2
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I do want to point out that most people that are waiting for a new forum go into the general section of the overall forum, not a phone's general forum. Just an fyi.
Also, you may find that some people are already in there. I havent checked though.
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Yes but since i am a EVO owner i made this an easy place for other EVO owners who maybe want to upgrade. Shouldn't have to search hard to find other ppl who where in the same boat as them and ask there opinion.
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jasonb1108 said:
Does Evo. 3D have tegra. 2
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No, Evo 3D has dual core Snapdragon. Not a lot of phone have adopted the Tegra over Snapdragon or Hummingbird.

mattykinsx said:
The Photon has 16GB of NAND, the Evo 3D has 4GB.
Different GPU. Different Camera.
The Photon has an encrypted bootloader than may never be unlocked.
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Also has:
Firefox Desktop browser
USB host (KB/Mouse, USB storage devices)
Accessories:
Media Dock with IR Remote (think Evo Desktop/Media Center)
Root and custom ROM's aside, the Photon has more functionality than the Evo has after a year of heavy development or the 3D. I love hacking/modding/improving all my stuff but this is the first device that I'm happy with (root and custom ROM's not withstanding) out of the box.

Lokifish Marz said:
Also has:
Firefox Desktop browser
USB host (KB/Mouse, USB storage devices)
Accessories:
Media Dock with IR Remote (think Evo Desktop/Media Center)
Root and custom ROM's aside, the Photon has more functionality than the Evo has after a year of heavy development or the 3D. I love hacking/modding/improving all my stuff but this is the first device that I'm happy with (root and custom ROM's not withstanding) out of the box.
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Eh, Motoblur lol.
I'm not saying it doesn't have more to offer than the Original Evo, but I do think that it's all about modifying.
If I can't run AOSP I'm not interested.

I'm heavily leaning towards this new device now. I know the Chef support will be great on the 3D, but the Moto has me interested. I have one upgrade now and another in October. Choices....hmmm.

tropicalbrit said:
Took a while for the Atrix to get rooted, but they did it. And Motorola is supposed to do the OTA roll-out unlocked bootloader thing... they just need to hurry it up.
I need to head down to my local Sprint store and start looking at the phones to compare... unfortunately my upgrade isn't until September
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If this is not a yearly upgrade you can call and have an upgrade reset done for 25 or 45 depending on your account. It gets billed to the account so no upfront cost.
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Is it just me or is the supposed atrix successor...

Disappointing? Smaller battery, no fingerprint sensor and no tegra. The battery cover does look better though. I could go both ways on dedicated camera button. Everything else is kind of meh.
I voided my warranty and your mum.

Yeah not exactly much better.Give me 2 more cores and then your talking
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yes, a big dissappointment. seems like a step back, not forward in every way. I thought they would do a Photon 4G equivalent with a bigger screen etc? That looks like a great device and an improvement over our atrix. Seems like the Atrix 2 is slower, smaller battery (one of the best selling points on the atrix IMHO) and doesnt make a generation jump to LTE etc.
it does ave 4.3 inch screen
Im going for a Samsung Note next.

Seems to me the business people overrule the tech/specs people.
"Let's add this feature, part, ect!"
"No. Its too expensive! We'll worry about those later! Get money and **** *****es."
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Err..
Can we have links for the successor phone pls ?
I am inclined to believe this is Edison we are talking about, but is it officially the successor ?? Specs are not official yet.
Need to have the specs+pics for putting things in better perspective.
"Let's add this feature, part, ect!"
"No. Its too expensive! We'll worry about those later! Get money and **** *****es."
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Hilarious stuff man

But...but....it doesn't have that horrific, baby-eating pentile screen! Surely that's worthy of an upgrade!
/s

I know i'm disappointed. Having bought a lapdock recently..I was really hoping the next gen Atrix would really expand upon that idea with bigger and better specs..not meh.

freshbakd said:
Yeah not exactly much better.Give me 2 more cores and then your talking
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All that will do is make your pocket warmer when you play pocket Android in the winter through heat generated with no active cooling. We don't even utilize 2 cores at the moment, so 4 cores is absolutely useless other than epeen.

Rickroller said:
I know i'm disappointed. Having bought a lapdock recently..I was really hoping the next gen Atrix would really expand upon that idea with bigger and better specs..not meh.
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You would think motorola would capitalize on webtop and create a market for "lapdocks". Their half assed "try" is pitiful. They could create a flagship phone with a higher clocked dual core and two gigs of ram. Hell, as things are, the other gig of ram could be accessible by webtop only so you double data rate and it doesnt eat battery having to power that ram and not utilizing it. Perhaps with ics and the better spec'd phones coming soon something might happen.
I voided my warranty and your mum.

spacescreamer said:
Err..
Can we have links for the successor phone pls ?
I am inclined to believe this is Edison we are talking about, but is it officially the successor ?? Specs are not official yet.
Need to have the specs+pics for putting things in better perspective.
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Here they were unable to connect to a LTE Network: http://www.phonearena.com/news/AT-T...rfaces-TI-OMAP-4-processor-but-no-LTE_id22369
Specs here but nothing about LTE: http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...ing-high-end-specs-smooth-form-factor-to-att/
"BGR Source" says no LTE: http://briefmobile.com/motorola-atrix-2-upgraded-with-lte-photos
From BGR: http://www.bgr.com/2011/09/20/motorola-atrix-2-images-and-details-revealed/
More reviews that mnetions the lack of LTE:
http://www.pcworld.com/article/240470/motorola_atrix_2_leak_shows_larger_improved_screen.html
http://www.engadget.com/2011/09/23/motorolas-atrix-2-edison-flaunts-qhd-display-hands-on-reveal/
Good in-depth review: http://thisismynext.com/2011/09/22/motorola-edison-atrix-2-att-preview/
Not official but they're saying it is the successor: http://androidcommunity.com/atts-motorola-atrix-2edison-gets-hands-on-treatment-20110923/
Shame

NoNameAtAll said:
But...but....it doesn't have that horrific, baby-eating pentile screen! Surely that's worthy of an upgrade!
/s
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I second this, main reason I hated my atrix was cause of the screen, if I can get my hands on one, I would swap it out for my atrix instantly.

The Bionic had an "operational" prototype back in Feb but it just got released this month (and looking completely different with different hardware). The same could be said about this. The battery, the processor, the screen, LTE, design, etc. could all be left to change when this phone actually reaches store shelves. But to even think that Motorola goes through the trouble with testing a device that is this lackluster spec-wise, and is supposed to be a successor, leaves me to believe that their marketing structure is based off of disseminating features/hardware across as many devices as possible to maximize profit which is one of the reasons I will not be buying another Moto phone anytime soon.

live4nyy said:
The Bionic had an "operational" prototype back in Feb but it just got released this month (and looking completely different with different hardware). The same could be said about this. The battery, the processor, the screen, LTE, design, etc. could all be left to change when this phone actually reaches store shelves. But to even think that Motorola goes through the trouble with testing a device that is this lackluster spec-wise, and is supposed to be a successor, leaves me to believe that their marketing structure is based off of disseminating features/hardware across as many devices as possible to maximize profit which is one of the reasons I will not be buying another Moto phone anytime soon.
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No anger there, then...
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CaelanT said:
All that will do is make your pocket warmer when you play pocket Android in the winter through heat generated with no active cooling. We don't even utilize 2 cores at the moment, so 4 cores is absolutely useless other than epeen.
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supposedly ice cream sandwich will b optimized for multi core....i hope and it should b out by the edisons or atrix 2's release.Found pics somewhere looks alot like our phone.why wouldnt they give it lte though?just doent make sense

live4nyy said:
The Bionic had an "operational" prototype back in Feb but it just got released this month (and looking completely different with different hardware). The same could be said about this. The battery, the processor, the screen, LTE, design, etc. could all be left to change when this phone actually reaches store shelves. But to even think that Motorola goes through the trouble with testing a device that is this lackluster spec-wise, and is supposed to be a successor, leaves me to believe that their marketing structure is based off of disseminating features/hardware across as many devices as possible to maximize profit which is one of the reasons I will not be buying another Moto phone anytime soon.
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I agree with everything you said, but is that any different than say HTC and all their "cookie cutter" sequel phones that they crank out with the same battery issues?
Too many upcoming phones out there, but no dominant successor right now IMO...
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Did everyone forget Google bought moto?? I know it was for patenting rights, but I think they will make pure Google phones in the future now. Not all, but atleast some.
I piss excellence

I read an article about a new LG phone coming out soon that looks bad ass! Basically the same as atrix but with the new Tegra, they said 1.2 or 1.5. It also had the slide out kb and 1080P recording which is probably pretty standard with new phones now. Nvidia was also saying that we should start seeing quad core phones by end of 1Q 2012. That would be nice.
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it would have to be one amazing machine for me to give up on this atrix
as far as im concerned this thing is wayyy ahead of its time therefor future proof for atleast 5 years wait n see! illbeit
i would like a bigger screen a multi cores with 4gig proscesser (someday)!
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ltdanno360 said:
it would have to be one amazing machine for me to give up on this atrix
as far as im concerned this thing is wayyy ahead of its time therefor future proof for atleast 5 years wait n see! illbeit
i would like a bigger screen a multi cores with 4gig proscesser (someday)!
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Lol, not 5 years, but I can keep my Atrix for at least one more year with what AT&T have in mind for its lineup
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I'm just going to start importing phones like this one (when they become compatible):
http://www.engadget.com/2011/08/16/xiaomi-m1-with-miui-os-a-310-phone-with-1-5ghz-dual-core-soc-a/
http://www.engadget.com/2011/08/30/xiaomi-phone-hands-on-redux-dual-partition-system-explained/
ccrows said:
I agree with everything you said, but is that any different than say HTC and all their "cookie cutter" sequel phones that they crank out with the same battery issues?
Too many upcoming phones out there, but no dominant successor right now IMO...
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