Ok I purchased the evo3d on launch day, but I am not satisfied with it at all, now my disclaimer I HATE SAMSUNG but it was due to the old samsung phones A460, A600, A660. The Sprint epic had so many problems that i only had it for 4 days then returned it. I said a long time ago I would never buy a samsung phone again. Well I think i might have lied. Im seriously am thinking of buying the new Sprint within aka SGS2 with it launches in aug. I have been a HTC user for 8 years since the 6600 but Im so dissatisfied in the performance of the evo3d and htc with its locked bootloaders. Now the one thing I might have to give up is sense I will miss it but Im hearing good things about this exynos chip on the sgs2. I need someone to assure me that the problems with the epic will not be in the sgs2 like micro sd problems or black screen of death or bluetooth dropping in and out or the major one GPS issues. I have to make up my mind in the next 48 hours. Can any one really offer some real information to help my situation. I dont need fanboy help, I need real input. I told myself I wouldnt come to the dark side but Vader is calling me.
Sound like me man LOL.... Only thing is, there will be no exynos CPU in the US versions....been confirmed in the fcc filings. Now that could change I suppose. But as of now, they will have tegra 2 chips
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HTC will unlock its bootloaders in September. Yesterday I got in a cloudburst, my phone got really wet and behaves strangely. I will buy an evo 3d if my sgs2 dies. I really do miss sense a lot.I think in the end software experience is more important than pure raw hardware power.
Btw I had a samsung non-smartphone before and I hated it and said to myself I would never buy a samsung again but the sgs2 is a very good phone though even though I still prefer sense
lol. you guys in the u.s. deserve better man...get the gs2...its fanfuckintastic...
sent from my galaxy S2.
Haven't had any issues with gps, bluetooth, or black screens of death so I think you might like it lol
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Haha, been through the 'never samsung again' phase too (i7500) but the i9100 really is a wonderful phone and I'm glad I didn't buy the evo3d, which I also considered for some time...
Ps: I went through the 'never htc again' after the infamous missing 2d/3d drivers of the Kaiser.
Lesson to be learned: we're all these corporations' biatches. Buy the phone ;p
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Haha, been through the 'never samsung again' phase too (i7500) but the i9100 really is a wonderful phone and I'm glad I didn't buy the evo3d, which I also considered for some time...
Ps: I went through the 'never htc again' after the infamous missing 2d/3d drivers of the Kaiser.
Lesson to be learned: we're all these corporations' biatches. Buy the phone ;p
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Lmao @ drivers. I remember that ****. That phones video performance was horrible. Soon as the lights git dim, u could forget about using the camera for video or stills lol
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Ok I purchased the evo3d on launch day, but I am not satisfied with it at all, now my disclaimer I HATE SAMSUNG but it was due to the old samsung phones A460, A600, A660. The Sprint epic had so many problems that i only had it for 4 days then returned it. I said a long time ago I would never buy a samsung phone again. Well I think i might have lied. Im seriously am thinking of buying the new Sprint within aka SGS2 with it launches in aug. I have been a HTC user for 8 years since the 6600 but Im so dissatisfied in the performance of the evo3d and htc with its locked bootloaders. Now the one thing I might have to give up is sense I will miss it but Im hearing good things about this exynos chip on the sgs2. I need someone to assure me that the problems with the epic will not be in the sgs2 like micro sd problems or black screen of death or bluetooth dropping in and out or the major one GPS issues. I have to make up my mind in the next 48 hours. Can any one really offer some real information to help my situation. I dont need fanboy help, I need real input. I told myself I wouldnt come to the dark side but Vader is calling me.
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You have to look at this way. Every comment on this board is about the international SGS2 (GT-i9100). The original SGS1 (GT-i9000) didn't have anywhere near the problems of the basterdized versions that had pretty drastic hardware and software changes as demanded by the four U.S. carriers. The GT-i9000 was updated to 2.3.4 about two weeks ago and received regular updates along the way. Most of which were ignored by the U.S. carriers pissing people off who then blamed Samsung.
Sprint may have ordered a bunch of changes to the SGS2 for their version. From the leaked pics the back of the phone is different, the corners look rounder, and it appears to be thicker. Regadless, it's a CDMA/Wi-Max phone so it'll have little in common with the GSM international version. You'll be dependent on Sprint for updates, features of the international version may be gone or replaced, and you won't be able to flash international ROMs.
So until the phone's actually out, it's hard to say how much Sprint molestation was done to it. The fundamentals will be solid like the display, processor, and camera. But things like call quality, Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, and GPS may be different because of the different radio(s).
It could be another Epic or Sprint could leave the phone basically alone except for what had to be changed to support CDMA/Wi-Max. Until it's out, no one will know.
I returned my Evo 3d 2 days ago. The next day I hear that the devs have gotten s-off. Oh well, anyway, I am going to wait till the Within comes out. And see how it is. Then if I don't like it, I will go back to the 3d, or some other phone. Just hope it comes out soon. Went back to a Palm pre, and it is killing me!
E3d...falls short compared to expectations. You'll know in 10 minutes its no contest.
I use Launcher Pro...makes it even faster.
Anyone have hands on with performances on these two different chips? Wouldn't imagine you'd detect much on this device?
Thanks for everyones feedback but if the u.s version is tegra 2 then i might keep my evo3d I might have to sell my evo3d on craigslist and wait past my 30 days, which is up Saturday and Im really disappointed in the evo3d but im so so so scared of a samsung device although the more i see it the more I might make the jump. decisions decisions. From all of my research the tegra 2 is the least of the three,(exynos,msm8660,tegra 2) all 1.2's can anyone speak on the chips in the non-exynos sgs2's
If you like rooting and Custom Roms and are a general XDA user i'd never buy a completely new phone when you dont know anything about it and if its gonna have root and stuff^^
I havent had the evo3d in hands because its not out in my country but i tested the SGS2 and the Sensation alot. So i have to emphasize this is my PERSONAL opinion
I have a DesireHD. I love it. It has gotten some bad reviews in the beginning when it first came out especially about battery life. Now with custom roms based on 2.3.3 it lasts me 2days and the UI is 100% smooth. But the bad reviews still stick i think...
To come to your decision, all 3 phones (sgs2, evo3d, sensation) are very new and still have problems. The sensation looks very nice but the one i tested was quite laggy. Sense 3d ran better on my DHD than on the sensation... I tried it side by side in the store, and still has locked bootloader - but HTC will unlock it so in a few months the Sensation maybe has awesome custom roms. Its too early to tell.
SGS2, nice phone hardware wise, but most ugly and useless software that i tried based on Android. When you're used to sense it just gives you nothing And when you're used to beautiful clear shiny SLCD screens you'll maybe have some problems with the OLED from the sgs2. The model i had in hand looked aweful compared to my DHD, the colors just arent right. There may be better ones but for me white white is much more important than black black. If that makes sense^^
About the chip: The sgs2 exynox is a powerful chip. But software does not really support it atm. For example Gameloft games. At least tegra2 has some cool games... I prefer qualcomm chip based phones - there i know i'll have compatibility.
So in my opinion the new dualcore phones do not have ANY advantage over singlecore 1ghz phones ATM (ok hdmi out is nice to have ). Who knows what will be in half a year when the software is better for the dualcore babies. But now? But these are just my thoughts.
I guess SGS2 will have good custom software faster than any other phone because of its popularity. If you can find one with a good screen and nice colors i guess go for it
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If you like rooting and Custom Roms and are a general XDA user i'd never buy a completely new phone when you dont know anything about it and if its gonna have root and stuff^^
I havent had the evo3d in hands because its not out in my country but i tested the SGS2 and the Sensation alot. So i have to emphasize this is my PERSONAL opinion
I have a DesireHD. I love it. It has gotten some bad reviews in the beginning when it first came out especially about battery life. Now with custom roms based on 2.3.3 it lasts me 2days and the UI is 100% smooth. But the bad reviews still stick i think...
To come to your decision, all 3 phones (sgs2, evo3d, sensation) are very new and still have problems. The sensation looks very nice but the one i tested was quite laggy. Sense 3d ran better on my DHD than on the sensation... I tried it side by side in the store, and still has locked bootloader - but HTC will unlock it so in a few months the Sensation maybe has awesome custom roms. Its too early to tell.
SGS2, nice phone hardware wise, but most ugly and useless software that i tried based on Android. When you're used to sense it just gives you nothing And when you're used to beautiful clear shiny SLCD screens you'll maybe have some problems with the OLED from the sgs2. The model i had in hand looked aweful compared to my DHD, the colors just arent right. There may be better ones but for me white white is much more important than black black. If that makes sense^^
About the chip: The sgs2 exynox is a powerful chip. But software does not really support it atm. For example Gameloft games. At least tegra2 has some cool games... I prefer qualcomm chip based phones - there i know i'll have compatibility.
So in my opinion the new dualcore phones do not have ANY advantage over singlecore 1ghz phones ATM (ok hdmi out is nice to have ). Who knows what will be in half a year when the software is better for the dualcore babies. But now? But these are just my thoughts.
I guess SGS2 will have good custom software faster than any other phone because of its popularity. If you can find one with a good screen and nice colors i guess go for it
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Try and play a 1080p movie in a Single core 1ghz phone,then you will see the difference ..
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Try and play a 1080p movie in a Single core 1ghz phone,then you will see the difference ..
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You mean 1080p Adobe Flash video?
What I don't like about LCD is that it can't display black, but OLED can display all colors.
Any heavy complex multitasking condition on a device proves the value of dual core.
First, I want to clear some things up here..
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Sound like me man LOL.... Only thing is, there will be no exynos CPU in the US versions....been confirmed in the fcc filings. Now that could change I suppose. But as of now, they will have tegra 2 chips
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I believe you are refering to this article: http://www.engadget.com/2011/07/06/another-galaxy-s-ii-passes-through-the-fcc-possibly-rockin-a-t/ (or another article on a different site).
If you look at the model number closely, you will see that the Tegra 2 phone that you are talking about has the model number GT-I9103. This is not the US galaxy SII. It is the Galaxy Z, the more "affordable little brother." (http://www.engadget.com/2011/07/01/samsung-galaxy-z-galaxy-s-iis-affordable-little-brother-now/).
I'm not confirming that the US varieties of the SGSII will not have Tegra 2s, but I'm saying that there was no confirmations of US SGSIIs having Tegra 2s in the first place.
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Sprint may have ordered a bunch of changes to the SGS2 for their version. From the leaked pics the back of the phone is different, the corners look rounder, and it appears to be thicker.
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From the Epic forums, some people are saying that the leaked picture wasn't the Galaxy SII (within), but it is the Sprint's version of the Infuse. But I have no sources for this one.
Anyways, personally, I recommend that you hold out until the Galaxy SII for Sprint comes out. On paper, the SGSII beats the Evo 3D in almost every spec criteria. HTC has better support and more timely updates though.
But I'm waiting for the Within.
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Now that we know the Epic 4G is officially coming to sprint is anyone returning their evos?
Personally i think:
Epic 4G wins in:
graphics processing
CPU processing
Display (even though evos in bigger)
Evo 4G wins in:
Developers/XDA community (biggy for me)
Phone look (its just sexyyy)
High Res cam in front and back
Sense (even though i prefer vanilla)
Epic 4G loses in:
****ty Samsung Android "skin" w.e its called
SAMSUNG!!
No Devs.....
Evo 4G Loses in:
30 FPS - although a fix has been made thanks to our devs
There were more issues at launch but all of been fixed minus the screen separation which HTC is "looking into"......
So what do you guys say?
EVO-lution said:
Now that we know the Epic 4G is officially coming to sprint is anyone returning their evos?
Personally i think:
Epic 4G wins in:
graphics processing
CPU processing
Display super (even though evos in bigger)
Evo 4G wins in:
Developers/XDA community (biggy for me)
Phone look (its just sexyyy)
High Res cam in front and back
Sense (even though i prefer vanilla)
Epic 4G loses in:
****ty Samsung Android "skin" w.e its called
SAMSUNG!!
No Devs.....
Evo 4G Loses in:
30 FPS - although a fix has been made thanks to our devs
There were more issues at launch but all of been fixed minus the screen separation which HTC is "looking into"......
So what do you guys say?
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I say Evo wins and you're gonna get an eyeful for making this thread in the development board.
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I say Evo wins and you're gonna get an eyeful for making this thread in the development board.
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Ya ****t ...... i just realised..... sorry everyone... MODs plsssss move to general
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Ya ****t ...... i just realised..... sorry everyone... MODs plsssss move to general
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Epic 4g is still going to be a WIN... i wouldnt trade my EVO for it... but i def. will get one when its out... it will eventually catch on here at XDA... hell there is Dell and Motorolas on here now... why not samsung...
about the samsung touchwiz crap... think about it... all it is is a skin over vanilla...??? freaking 1/2 the people here are always crying about how much sense sucks anyway... so why not...
i have been reading how its being knocked about not having all the "social" crap of sense... obviously the person writing that has not looked at the market for a long long while... or forgot that this isnt an iphone...
Epic will be as good as the EVO if not better simply because of the hummingbird processor...
Depending on the price I'm getting one as a spare
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Depending on the price I'm getting one as a spare
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I switched from T-Mobile for the Evo, I have -no idea- how their upgrade system works. Do you think I'll be able to upgrade, given I -just- started my contract with them?
Me and another guy went to return our EVO's today, in light of the EPIC, well, the fact we went in yesterday for the same ****, but my buddy running the store told me yesterday they have no info at all on release date..
He got some info from Sprint today, release date is "black friday" the last friday before thanks giving...
Hell of a long time to wait, regardless if I could of returned my EVO, put my sprint service on a **** phone, and kept my 2 year upgrade/new contract eligability available until the EPIC comes out...
5 months? To hell with that. Ill probally be able to sell my EVO in a little bit shy of 100$ of what the epic will cost me in full. so to hell with it, We kept our EVOs.
I hate sense. I cant stand the 30FPS cap, I never use the HDMI the way i thought it would be implemented, and that extra $10 fee for .. well, nothing is kind of starting to bother me the more I think about it.
In the end, evo still crushes my other friends iphone4, even though their so ****ing stupid and wont accept anything besides there own opinion, and just tried to laugh at the evo apparently. i-d-i-o-t-s.
..still most of me likes the nexus more but tmobile just sucks in my area.
you will not have to wait till the black friday... by that time (end of summer / fall) we will be playing with nVidia Tegra powered phones running in the neighborhood of 1.2ghz to 1.5ghz natively ... that can push 1080p with a breeze and have better battery life than snapdragon powered devices ... unfortunately 1st run of nVidia Tegra powered phones will be windows 7 instead of android ...
looks like a childs toy, untill they make a proper phone with keyboard that doesn't look like it comes from fisher price I say nay to thee!
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Me and another guy went to return our EVO's today, in light of the EPIC, well, the fact we went in yesterday for the same ****, but my buddy running the store told me yesterday they have no info at all on release date..
He got some info from Sprint today, release date is "black friday" the last friday before thanks giving...
Hell of a long time to wait, regardless if I could of returned my EVO, put my sprint service on a **** phone, and kept my 2 year upgrade/new contract eligability available until the EPIC comes out...
5 months? To hell with that. Ill probally be able to sell my EVO in a little bit shy of 100$ of what the epic will cost me in full. so to hell with it, We kept our EVOs.
I hate sense. I cant stand the 30FPS cap, I never use the HDMI the way i thought it would be implemented, and that extra $10 fee for .. well, nothing is kind of starting to bother me the more I think about it.
In the end, evo still crushes my other friends iphone4, even though their so ****ing stupid and wont accept anything besides there own opinion, and just tried to laugh at the evo apparently. i-d-i-o-t-s.
..still most of me likes the nexus more but tmobile just sucks in my area.
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damn...black friday..that is too long to wait
Black Friday is the day AFTER Thanksgiving what would put it at November 26th.
"The EVO 4G, while having an impressive set of specifications, still runs a 65 nm chip that is less power efficient and pales in terms of graphics performance when compared to the Galaxy S." http://alienbabeltech.com/main/?p=17125 good read comparing the processors, Super AMOLED is way better, colors, battery, everything, and the hummingbird has a superior GPU and is only a 45nm compared to our 65nm. HTC has always been about numbers, get the 1GHz processor, 8MP camera, 4.3" screen, but not always the best quality of them. the Epic may be better in some respects.
I wouldn't give my EVO for an EPIC right now though, xda, quality and reliability of HTC hardware, and sense (menus and contacts, not widgets) are just to good to pass up. Also, I don't really like any hardware keyboard after the TP2, samsungs is still not on the same level. samsungs sometimes feel cheap, HTC's feel and look like higher quality devices.
Its Apples and Oranges, just get your Bananas out of here.
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Also I have heard from Sprint Reps the EPIC will be out no later than August, more likely mid July.
Additionally CLEAR will be starting phone services this year and have announced HTC and Samsung devices, most likely these two.
Hardware keyboards are one thing (I tend to not like them), but horizontal hardware keyboards are just terrible. Am I the only one that almost never holds their phone horizontally?
I'll keep my EVO, or go with the standard Galaxy S, as long as it can go Vanilla.
sorry, im an htc guy
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Hardware keyboards are one thing (I tend to not like them), but horizontal hardware keyboards are just terrible. Am I the only one that almost never holds their phone horizontally?
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I have only ever liked the Blackberry Curve 8330, but on the horizontal thing, I too, barely hold it like that, it is good for games and some occasions, but I prefer Vertically. :]
Ya know I had my EVO 4G for like 3 weeks and then i Traded it in for an iPhone 4 I just had to see what the hype was about and see if the battery thing was true....its not i charge this **** 2 times a day just like my evo (Biggest Mistake of my Life I had that signal issue rly bad) but im kindda stuck for now because i want to ether get the white EVO 4G or the Epic but i need a Release date id hate to get stuck in a ATT contract cuz they suck here in NYC im praying for a July 15 Surprise Release Date
thats when the New Rim phones Drop and the Droid X and the White EVO Golden Day?
I was interested in this phone also until I did a bit more research on custom roms etc. There won't be any!
Apparently Samsung has some kind of security on the phone that you can't touch the drivers. From what I read its impossible to do ANYTHING without the drivers.
It doesn't look good at all for custom roms etc on the Samsung. Just not worth losing all the custom things on my EVO.
I can tell the OP never had a Samsung phone the Moment which is also a Samsung phone does have a development community behind it, Google SDX-Developers.
Also the skin can be replaced easily and cooking an AOSP ROM isn't exactly hard. Two big pluses I can't get over that keep ringing in my head are the sexy as hell SUPER AMOLED screen and the Hummingbird processor, which spanks the Snapdragon in every benchmark.
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I was interested in this phone also until I did a bit more research on custom roms etc. There won't be any!
Apparently Samsung has some kind of security on the phone that you can't touch the drivers. From what I read its impossible to do ANYTHING without the drivers.
It doesn't look good at all for custom roms etc on the Samsung. Just not worth losing all the custom things on my EVO.
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Wow, you have no idea what you're talking about no offense, Samsung phones have been rooted and modified for a long long time there is no special settings or protection. And a kernal HAS to be produced by law, since Android is an Open Source project.
Look for yourself, wow no community at all:
http://www.sdx-developers.com/
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I can tell the OP never had a Samsung phone the Moment which is also a Samsung phone does have a development community behind it, Google SDX-Developers.
Also the skin can be replaced easily and cooking an AOSP ROM isn't exactly hard. Two big pluses I can't get over that keep ringing in my head are the sexy as hell SUPER AMOLED screen and the Hummingbird processor, which spanks the Snapdragon in every benchmark.
Wow, you have no idea what you're talking about no offense, Samsung phones have been rooted and modified for a long long time there is no special settings or protection. And a kernal HAS to be produced by law, since Android is an Open Source project.
Look for yourself, wow no community at all:
http://www.sdx-developers.com/
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Did I say anything about root? What does root have to do with drivers?? Maybe you need to do some research!! Samsung has their own security on the phone to protect their drivers!! This is a fact. Go read the Samung Galaxy S forums that are right here and thats been the case with past Samsung phones.
I didnt mention kernel either. Did you even read my post?
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Did I say anything about root? What does root have to do with drivers?? Maybe you need to do some research!! Samsung has their own security on the phone to protect their drivers!! This is a fact. Go read the Samung Galaxy S forums that are right here and thats been the case with past Samsung phones.
I didnt mention kernel either. Did you even read my post?
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If that's been the case with past Samsung phones, then why are there like 20+ custom ROMs for the Moment alone that work perfectly fine with original drivers and are completely different from stock builds.
I know this because I came from a Moment been rooting/flashing/hacking it since the day it was released, this is the first I've ever heard of anything like this and it was never a problem then, unless this is new for the Galaxy S line which I doubt.
Also the reason I brought up custom ROMs was because you brought them up:
Apparently Samsung has some kind of security on the phone that you can't touch the drivers. From what I read its impossible to do ANYTHING without the drivers.
It doesn't look good at all for custom roms etc on the Samsung. Just not worth losing all the custom things on my EVO.
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Go look at my link you'll see a wide library of Samsung custom ROM builds, so how is it impossible to have custom ROMs on a Samsung phone?
We can all agree that the Samsung Vibrant/Galaxy S is a really good phone and a really great phone when running a custom rom. My question is what is next for you guy, as far as phones goes. What new upcoming phone will you guys get in the near future?
So far number one on my list of my next phones is the LG Optimus 2x, but is that can when Galaxy S 2 and the rumored LG 3D phone is announces. Most likely I will go with the Galaxy S 2. Why you ask? 1. TOUCHWIZ, I think Touchwiz is the best thing that every happen to a smartphone. 2. Odin, Odin practically made the Vibrant unbreakable. 3. Super Amoled Display, I can never look at another screen the same again after seeing super amoled, plus the Galaxy S 2 is said to have Super Amoled Plus Display sigh crazy!!!
I too am leaning toward the LG Optimus 2X but would opt for the Galaxy S 2 if it was coming out in the next couple of months. Have not heard nor read any real timeline for the Galaxy S 2. I also really like Twiz. I have had some hard feelings toward Samsung but I also like Odin and how it makes the phone much easier(or more comfortable) to mess with. I had pretty much decided to never purchase Samsung again but upon looking at the overall picture I feel it is the best decision for me at this time. I had a MT4G and even though I got it rooted and flashed a nice rom I never really felt comfortable playing with it. Sent it back.. Nice phone though.
LG Optimus 2X is mine, I am simply waiting on it right now. But I will NOT buy any phone that does not have the operating system I want and wait for it to come out. If the Optimus 2X does not come with gingerbread, no dice. That way I can flash some cool custom roms just for fun not cos I need the new OS
Seems like I made the right decision to not but the Galaxy Tab, will be getting the G-Slate to go along with it the Optimus2X, scary crap but I am going to be an LG guy (minus the TV)
Edit, after much thought and playing around with phones, watching youtube videos of different phones etc etc, I have decided I will stick to Google phones, ie Nexus line of phones. I really do not need much more than the 16gig it comes with, I hardly use the bluetooth anyway, and it is still faster than the current flock of dual core phones out there now...yep nexus S is my next phone. Even the Nexus one is beating phones that are a year newer at performing basic tasks fast and efficiently
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0e5z6vvf0A&feature=related for eg for the Nexus S
Grant it, i've had hard feelings towards samsung, I'll probably end up with another samsung phone. If not, I would go back to being a Symbian Developer once again with custom Symbians for Nokia. I was, maybe still am, a Nokia die hard. I love their simplicity and all of my Nokia's lasted years.
And Samsung is the closest to what I like on a phone. Customizable, ease of use, and their hardware configuration is so simple and very nice.
So yah...
As much as I am a believer in budget is relative, buy it if you can afford it, I still don't see why anyone buys a phone cause its the "next big thing". Hype and marketing will always tug at the trendy or the ppl who are "in the know" harder then reality or common sense.
Examples span from the the galaxy s Series being released, the G1 being the iphone killer, and more recently the X2 being short of expectations per the review just put out by engadget. Now I'm not saying that the following examples didn't take a turn for the better, if not the best, but electronics and the future is almost an oxymoron. You usually are never using the final product, but more like beta testing for the next best thing. It's an endless trap of gratification vs. $/phone.
As I was one who has gone through the ranks of the G1 and a vibrant, and I Love my vibrant, but Ill still just wait till xxx phone comes out late this year and get it for free on a full upgrade after its been out for 6 months and has tons of roms and the kinks rubbed out of it, lol.
/talking myself out of buying another toy hahaha
I'm going to stick to vibrant and wait for multiple dual cores to come out. Then hit the Craig when the price is lowest :b dun really wanna switch again... went through so many phones in last 4 -5months.
Samsung highlight/ iPhone 3gs/ Samsung vibrant / HTC g2/ nexus one / mytouch 4g/ and back to vibrant again.. should have never abandoned the vibrant in the first place lol.
Learned mylesson. Don't buy the first batch
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Grant it, i've had hard feelings towards samsung, I'll probably end up with another samsung phone. If not, I would go back to being a Symbian Developer once again with custom Symbians for Nokia. I was, maybe still am, a Nokia die hard. I love their simplicity and all of my Nokia's lasted years.
And Samsung is the closest to what I like on a phone. Customizable, ease of use, and their hardware configuration is so simple and very nice.
So yah...
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Sounds like you need a Nokia N8.
But i think im most likely gonna go with the Optimus 2x. That Dual-Core processor sounds promising.
they said the benchmarks on it are insane
http://www.intomobile.com/2011/01/31/lg-optimus-2x-star-dual-core-tegra-2-fully-benchmarked/
instead of spending my easily earned money on another phone when this current phone is perfectly fine, I am going to get some custom timberland boots!!
From what i have heard, performance increase is not that much with any phone that is not running honeycomb or higher. The OS can only utilize one core, so the main reason anyone would want to get the lg optimus should be for gaming, and lets face it, android games aren't that hw demanding or nice !!
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Sounds like you need a Nokia N8.
But i think im most likely gonna go with the Optimus 2x. That Dual-Core processor sounds promising.
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LOL, N8 is niiiccceee, especially it comes with Nokia Qt SDK for Devs, lolol... tempting.
Anyway, that's what i'm waiting for, a dual core, and simplicity.
Funny, I can afford to buy any phone anytime, that said i love this phone and am waiting for the same reason ndwgs said. Dual Core, my next buy will probably be the xoom tablet... then the Dual core, S2 or maybe Atris..... not sure
------BTW doesn't "TouchWhiz" sound like a condition you get from drinking to much beer ?
Haha yes! Lol
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Meh, as unhappy as I've been with the small amounts of great ROMS, and lack of Sense so far, I'm keeping this phone. Over the lasy year I've gone through six phones. Moto Cliq-myTouch-Blackberry Bold-iPhone 3G-myTouch-Vibrant. I was never truly happy with a device until this one. So I'll be waiting quite a qhile before getting a new one.
Either the Glaxy S2 or the HTC Pyramid. I can't wait for MWC to start
I will never buy a samsung phone again, but I heard that the nokia e7 is shipping now and the keyboard on that thing is gorgeous, not to mention the camera with dual led flash. If I were to buy a phone today it would be that one. I'd probably go through some minor flashing withdraw but I'd get over it.
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To the op try using this rom im using now http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=935799 its a suped up version of touchwiz ^^
and on the topic i would skip the lg 2x and prolly get the galaxy s2 for my next upgrade, mostly because i dont want a smaller screen. Hopefully by then they will solve the whole timely update problems, which they said recently while releasing the "official 2.2" <-(piece of sh*t btw) that they will work harder to provide updates on a timely matter.
Heh, I'm going to wait until the second wave of dual-core phones come out, probably by this holiday season. Why? They'll be more mature and ship with 2.4 stock, which is what you'll need to actually take advantage of those dual cores. And by then we'll know which chipsets have the best performance and battery life (Tegra 2 isn't all that impressive just yet).
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To the op try using this rom im using now http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=935799 its a suped up version of touchwiz ^^
and on the topic i would skip the lg 2x and prolly get the galaxy s2 for my next upgrade, mostly because i dont want a smaller screen. Hopefully by then they will solve the whole timely update problems, which they said recently while releasing the "official 2.2" <-(piece of sh*t btw) that they will work harder to provide updates on a timely matter.
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Yea I tried that rom. I realtor like it but what I did is I pulled out the theme, widgets and touchwiz and put then on top of kb1.
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Heh, I'm going to wait until the second wave of dual-core phones come out, probably by this holiday season. Why? They'll be more mature and ship with 2.4 stock, which is what you'll need to actually take advantage of those dual cores. And by then we'll know which chipsets have the best performance and battery life (Tegra 2 isn't all that impressive just yet).
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Some have no problem getting 2 phones.
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Some have no problem getting 2 phones.
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True. I got a dinosaur phone and my vibrant. Nokia 6630 International Version and my Nex One.
Both i still use, beside my playtime/funtime/tester phone: the vibrant.
Speaking of which, when are you coming up with your Rom, Sader?
I see in your sig that you got a Rom coming soon?? I wan't to have a hands-on on that baby... No pressure. LOL
you had to go!!!! After having this phone for 2 weeks, it just didn't quite cut it even though on paper it was remarkable. It had a dual core processor, higher resolution, webtop capabilities on and on...
In the end I guess my old eyes couldn't handle the smaller icons due to higher resolution, I had issues with my MP3 player playing only 3/4 of song then stopping and then i wasn't liking the dual core heating up like a toaster oven. THe icons were dull colors too....Motorola likes these dull browns for icons where as HTC likes to use color and make it vivid.
I also like to play around with my phone too much so LOCKED BOOTLOADER was not cool. Did you hear me Motorola, LOCKED BOOTLOADER for a lot of people dont like that.....
So in the end I got the Inspire 4G with Sense. You really cant go wrong with HTC, although I understand the postive and negatives to each phone, mine just happen to fit more in line with HTC.
So for you hopefuls that Motorola will unlock it, wish you the best of luck or that they will do many updates, wish you the best of luck!!!
Not trying to start a huge debate, but if you are on the fence about these two phones, just spend 10 mins. with the Inspire and most people will probably like it over the Motorola.
its funny i had the inspire for 2 weeks....got rid of it a few days ago
got the Atrix...and THANK GOD I DID
4.3 inches at the **** resolution its at was a disaster, hurt my hands. Too heavy
not very fast, barely played videos (htc codecs suck)
Like you said, it comes down to opinion
but switching from inspire 4g to atrix was the best thing I ever did
PS: The battery on that thing gave me EPIC NIGHTMARES.
Can someone just make a "im returning _______" thread/topic/section?
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you had to go!!!! After having this phone for 2 weeks, it just didn't quite cut it even though on paper it was remarkable. It had a dual core processor, higher resolution, webtop capabilities on and on...
In the end I guess my old eyes couldn't handle the smaller icons due to higher resolution, I had issues with my MP3 player playing only 3/4 of song then stopping and then i wasn't liking the dual core heating up like a toaster oven. THe icons were dull colors too....Motorola likes these dull browns for icons where as HTC likes to use color and make it vivid.
I also like to play around with my phone too much so LOCKED BOOTLOADER was not cool. Did you hear me Motorola, LOCKED BOOTLOADER for a lot of people dont like that.....
So in the end I got the Inspire 4G with Sense. You really cant go wrong with HTC, although I understand the postive and negatives to each phone, mine just happen to fit more in line with HTC.
So for you hopefuls that Motorola will unlock it, wish you the best of luck or that they will do many updates, wish you the best of luck!!!
Not trying to start a huge debate, but if you are on the fence about these two phones, just spend 10 mins. with the Inspire and most people will probably like it over the Motorola.
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You actually can go wrong with HTC, its when they put a 1200 mah battery in a 1.8 ghz capable phone then you get to watch your battery lose a percent every 4 minutes of use. I had one it was totally BS battery life and was totally unacceptable. Then people say "just don't OC it" so then you have a 4.3 inch captivate with less ui lag, no usable internal memory storage, and GPS that works.
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Did u try launcher pro plus first motoblur is **** ill give you that but the phone is fast good battery life screen is nice... I'm loving it
i can't wait until i leave my epic 4g from sprint and come to the atrix community
i am tired of htc, samsung and sprints games so it times to give motorola and att a chance
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Or a
'I treat my phone like a dog' thread
'My phone has feelings, but my other one performs better in bed'
'I'm insecure about my decisions, so I will talk about it here'
Seconded.
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HTC phones are so GENERIC. Its insulting you would even compare such a tired, re-hash of a device to the ATRIX.
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SS2006 said:
Or a
'I treat my phone like a dog' thread
'My phone has feelings, but my other one performs better in bed'
'I'm insecure about my decisions, so I will talk about it here'
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Lol ;-)
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I love HTC phones. But they have to be Android. I have the evo 4G and I couldn't be happier. It's fast, vibrant, has all the bells and whistles. I literally have a mini computer at the palm of my hands.
I've had it for about 3 weeks now and yeah the battery goes quick but thats because I can't put it down! I had the Hero before switching to evo and I love everything about this phone.
I didn't understand why it was called the supersonic until I used it. Is rather have my HTC evo over any other phone on the market. Puts the iPhone to shame with its 8.0mp camera, and its secondary front-mounted camera makes video chatting a synch, the kickstand is awesome for watching YouTube or movies and also playing games. Oh and I almost forgot it has an HDMI out. Used it and the picture on my tv is remarkable.
Keep up the good work HTC and Google....I love you
Oh and one other thing it has a 4G mobile hotspot that can provide WiFi for up to 8 devices at once. If thats not remarkable I don't know what is
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I love HTC phones. But they have to be Android. I have the evo 4G and I couldn't be happier. It's fast, vibrant, has all the bells and whistles. I literally have a mini computer at the palm of my hands.
I've had it for about 3 weeks now and yeah the battery goes quick but thats because I can't put it down! I had the Hero before switching to evo and I love everything about this phone.
I didn't understand why it was called the supersonic until I used it. Is rather have my HTC evo over any other phone on the market. Puts the iPhone to shame with its 8.0mp camera, and its secondary front-mounted camera makes video chatting a synch, the kickstand is awesome for watching YouTube or movies and also playing games. Oh and I almost forgot it has an HDMI out. Used it and the picture on my tv is remarkable.
Keep up the good work HTC and Google....I love you
Oh and one other thing it has a 4G mobile hotspot that can provide WiFi for up to 8 devices at once. If thats not remarkable I don't know what is
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i like the Evo and a lot of people i kno and see around campus have either the evo or iphone 4, very few galaxy S phone, but honestly i think the Atrix is better then all of them, even the Galaxy S II won't compare judging from the specs that were given(but i can't prove it until the phone comes out so it's just an opinion)
I've never been a fan of Motorola. I have had very bad experiences with mot. Phones. I have had nothing but good experiences with HTC w/google. I also used to have the blackberry curve 8310 and thought it was the best thing since buttered toast. But that quickly changed when I switched to sprint.
Sprint has better service than ATT & Verizon combined IMO. But thats just how I feel. They have given me good prices and great devices with no hassle and I'm not the type to ruin a good thing. Bottom line is "to each his own" but I will recommend HTC with Android until either HTC starts slacking or Google bites the dust (which they wont).
I'm sure you all have valid points about your phone's but I'm pro HTC and definitly pro Google.
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I've never been a fan of Motorola. I have had very bad experiences with mot. Phones. I have had nothing but good experiences with HTC w/google. I also used to have the blackberry curve 8310 and thought it was the best thing since buttered toast. But that quickly changed when I switched to sprint.
Sprint has better service than ATT & Verizon combined IMO. But thats just how I feel. They have given me good prices and great devices with no hassle and I'm not the type to ruin a good thing. Bottom line is "to each his own" but I will recommend HTC with Android until either HTC starts slacking or Google bites the dust (which they wont).
I'm sure you all have valid points about your phone's but I'm pro HTC and definitly pro Google.
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Had Inspire and Atrix. Kept Atrix. The end.
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I've had many htc phones and have always had a good experience. I had a hard time waiting for the atrix when I saw the inspire for $100. At that price point it is a steal for the features you get. In the end i'm glad I waited though. The Atrix is rediculously good!!! Super fast and great battery life (I get about 16 hours a charge... 16!!!) It is hands down the best phone i've ever used. Head shoulders and more above the rest, a GIANT among a sea of average phones.
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I was impressed by the Inspire back when it came out on Sprint as the Evo... what, eight months ago? I made the mistake of buying old hardware that just came out once, the Hero. Never again.
Coming from the Captivate, the only things I miss are how vibrant the games looked on SAMOLED and flashing the new hot stuff roms.
Do not miss accidently bricking the thing and having to use a USB jig to fix it though...
I am from a another continent; a faraway country - Singapore to be exact. Smartphones is one of my hobbies. I have had several HTC phones - Windows Mobile, and now the Desire on Android which is about 9 months old, and high time for a replacement. I have been reading and eyeing the Atrix since Jan 2011 - all excited about it's superior tech specs, and particularly its innovative HDMI/TV docking unit. I have been preparing myself to be an early adopter and to purchase a unit from EBay at a premium price. I have been so impressed with what I read that I even invested in some MMI stocks. But, all these excitement, hype and high expectations of owning a Atrix (will be my first Moto) came to a complete stop last weekend - when I learnt that a famed developer (he did the unroot for the Atrix) abandoned his work because of the locked bootloader! Motorola may have their own reasons to do this, but it is unacceptable to me. So, unless I see a Moto announcement to unlock the bootloader, I am off looking for another dual core smartphone - either the LG 2X or wait for HTC to release one. Obviously I will also sell off my MMI stocks - even if I have to incur a loss, given its recent rapid decline. Sorry folks, if I have been somewhat off-topic. Just wanted to voice my opinion.
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I am from a another continent; a faraway country - Singapore to be exact. Smartphones is one of my hobbies. I have had several HTC phones - Windows Mobile, and now the Desire on Android which is about 9 months old, and high time for a replacement. I have been reading and eyeing the Atrix since Jan 2011 - all excited about it's superior tech specs, and particularly its innovative HDMI/TV docking unit. I have been preparing myself to be an early adopter and to purchase a unit from EBay at a premium price. I have been so impressed with what I read that I even invested in some MMI stocks. But, all these excitement, hype and high expectations of owning a Atrix (will be my first Moto) came to a complete stop last weekend - when I learnt that a famed developer (he did the unroot for the Atrix) abandoned his work because of the locked bootloader! Motorola may have their own reasons to do this, but it is unacceptable to me. So, unless I see a Moto announcement to unlock the bootloader, I am off looking for another dual core smartphone - either the LG 2X or wait for HTC to release one. Obviously I will also sell off my MMI stocks - even if I have to incur a loss, given its recent rapid decline. Sorry folks, if I have been somewhat off-topic. Just wanted to voice my opinion.
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It really is perplexing -the decision to lock the bootloader. I mean, are they afraid someone would engineer a program that steals fingerprints...etc?
I was a big hater for Samsung due to their broken GPS (some fixes help but it's still broken), Samsung's denial of the GPS problem then their "the next update will fix it" NOT, slow software updates and RFS file system. I truly was #neveragain.
But all in all, I do like the SGS (our devs have helped with that). Screen is amazing, good cpu/gpu, nice storage, good camera. So why would I not consider the SGS II for my next phone? It has a better and bigger screen, blazing quick processor, new gps radio, no RFS.
My mind is saying #neveragain, get the G2X but the specs make me want forgive sammy and wait for the SGSII.
Oh, HTC Sensation is out if it has a locked bootloader.
Good question. I absolutely LOVE my SGS except for the GPS. When I let people hold it, they are amazed at the weight and i love the speed, screen response etc. Just pretty PO'd about the GPS. I have a work around but it takes between 10-15 for it to wake the heck up!
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I was a big hater for Samsung due to their broken GPS (some fixes help but it's still broken), Samsung's denial of the GPS problem then their "the next update will fix it" NOT, slow software updates and RFS file system. I truly was #neveragain.
But all in all, I do like the SGS (our devs have helped with that). Screen is amazing, good cpu/gpu, nice storage, good camera. So why would I not consider the SGS II for my next phone? It has a better and bigger screen, blazing quick processor, new gps radio, no RFS.
My mind is saying #neveragain, get the G2X but the specs make me want forgive sammy and wait for the SGSII.
Oh, HTC Sensation is out if it has a locked bootloader.
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If your mind says G2x than go for it. It does however have problems of its own at the moment. The common feeling around here these days is that Samsung seems to have learned from their mistake and are trying harder. Only time will tell for sure. If you dont wana wait for it get the G2x and hope the problems are cleared up soon. Worst comes to worst you can sell it and put that money towards the SGS2 when it finally comes out.
I started #NeverAgain
I would absolutely get the SGS2. The phone will be amazing.
All manufacturers have their issues, Samsung proved they would listen (they really did, trust me). They havent shown any signs of locking bootloaders and hopefully they continue improving with releasing source.
Timely updates is not their thing.
It also looks like an iPhone. Yuck (my opinion), only b/c everytime I look at it that's what I would think about.
get the international version so you can update faster.
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Well...
I don't know anymore after reading engadget's review. They said it's the best smartphone they've ever tested.
If engadget says that an they are hard to impress look at all of the reviews lately low an they said ever so I am most deff getting jus need one for tmo
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The galaxy s2 seems like it owns the g2x. In most reviews ive read like they say the battery life lasts 2 days with heavy use. That's ridiculous. And the GPS is fixed on the sgs2. Hell its even fixed on the galaxy s 4g which is what i have. And the screen looks amazing. 4.3 inch super amoled plus. keep in mind the g2x has many issues like major screen bleed and horrible battery drain in standby mode.
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Everyone cries about SGS being this and that, but it is one of the best phones on the market to date. Yes the GPS was flaky, but try the New G2x or any other of the phones and you will find lots of problems...... me ? I am waiting for the S-2 it will be better and it will be the hardware I am looking for, I really never cared about any of the operating systems...... they all suck one way or another. So, as long as the hardware is good, then Ill just load my own custon stuff and I am happy........ people whine too much and really expect perfection when there is not any anywhere in this world.............
I'm going to wait till the SGS II is out for a couple of months before I decide.
I jumped on the Vibrant on the first day it was released, but if I had known what I now know about the Vibrant, I'm not sure I would have gotten it.
So how will/is the build quality? Is it plastic, like ours, or more solid like htc phones?
Do we know how the processor compares to what will be in the htc Sensation or the Tegra 2's that are out?
duel core, 4.3" screen, 1gb of ram seem awesome, but is the phone able to actually effectively use all that power, or has the hardware been hindered by the software/code writing like our Vibrants were?
Thanks for any responses, just trying to get more info
Plastic, but apparently very good still. As mentioned before, Engadget thinks it might be the best smartphone ever.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/28/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-review/
SGS2 =Beast!!! Don't let anyone else tell you otherwise.... It will.be the best phone on the market when it comes out.
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SGS II is my next phone!
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The SGS II looks like it will be the best phone on the market when it's released and I might just buy one even though my partial subsidy for a new phone likely won't have gone into effect when it's released.
I do think I'll wait a month or so before i take the plunge to see which of the Dev's pick one up and begin customizing ROM's for this phone. I like my Vibrant but that's in large part due to Sombionix, Eugene and Birgertime (to name a few) who have taken their time to brew up ROM's that make the Vibrant perform at or near it's full ability. Without them and the other Dev's I'd like this phone a LOT less...
i'll definitely consider the sgs2, but will wait and see how/when the release happens in the us first. i was unhappy about samsung's lack of updates, but overall i don't think a new phone has come out that is good enough to warrant me ditching my vibrant. sgs2 may be enough of a tech leap forward.
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Plastic, but apparently very good still. As mentioned before, Engadget thinks it might be the best smartphone ever.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/28/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-review/
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thanks for the response. good read. so samsung got rid of the RFS file system?
My plan: wait until a different SGSII hits each carrier, considering a different SGS hit each major (and minor) carrier the first time around. Wait a solid two months while monitoring the XDA forums. Determine which SGSII on which carrier has the most enthusiastic support from the developer community.
Purchase accordingly.
Because **** AT&T-Mobile. #noloyalty
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My plan: wait until a different SGSII hits each carrier, considering a different SGS hit each major (and minor) carrier the first time around. Wait a solid two months while monitoring the XDA forums. Determine which SGSII on which carrier has the most enthusiastic support from the developer community.
Purchase accordingly.
Because **** AT&T-Mobile. #noloyalty
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that's part of my plan. i want to wait and see if they do the same dumb fragmentation thing with the us carriers or if we get a uniform release. if it's fragmented, i will see if i can get an international and if it works on tmob.
Hell yeah.
I'm getting one as soon as price of one (new or used) is under $500. My 1.5Ghz Vibrant is fast enough for the time being.
Hi, guys. Since arco's post whether there will be CM9 or not, which will be Android 4.0 in all its glare, for our precious and beloved device ive started to think about upgrading my phone to something more, let me say, powerful. To be honest this phone gave its best in a sense of a development and using new stuff which hits every day. We saw some pretty much good stuff on a little fire which none of us expected when first came here. There are at first Cyanogenmod,first 6 and now 7 which led us though great Gingerbread experience till its latest version 2.3.7. In one word CM was the beginner of everything that was happening around here in pas year and little more, than we saw some nice themes and they juiced up our phone a little more to our taste. Than there is better camera recording, overclocking. I should at first say root, but never mind, than came AlpharevX with its s-off. Well, not to make it long, there were a lot of nice moments. And as for me ive learned a lot, so thank to everyone who helped me in any way.
But like any other device out there and this one will come to an end of its development era. So, the question is it time for retirement? What would be your next ride? Im thinking about Sensation or EVO 3D, that is if i collect enough money Anyway, ill still be here for some time. Please, share your thoughts...
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I am done with HTC, so it will definitely not be one of their devices. (Quality issues abound - Sensation touch problems, Wildfire battery problems, my friend's Desire's display gave up when he didn't do an iota of modification on it, during the first 6 months, and, not to say, the entire locked bootloaders and the leaked info security hole fiasco). Not to mention, their devices are WAY overpriced for what they offer. Even today, in India, the ZTE Blade costs 25% less than the Wildfire! The Incredible S costs the same as an LG Optimus 2X!!
It's only a feel good in your hands with their devices. I agree that Samsung devices don't exude this. My Wildfire feels better in the hand than a mate's SGS1, but still, if it's innards and quality don't match it, the "premium feel" is worthless.
/End rant on HTC
While I loved the new SG Nexus, As far as my opinion goes, the GPU is not worth on it on that device. Using a PowerSGX 540 on a flagship is simply not worth it, and that is when it has a LOT more pixels to push, compared to a WVGA resolution screen, so, my unrealistic dream still remains the SGS2, which, I sincerely hope undergoes a bit of a price cut when the SGN launches.
On to the realistic devices, as I have said time and again, I am impressed with the SE Xperia 2011 lineup. They are simply unbeatable for what they offer. (Again - the Wildfire S is COSTLIER than the SE Xperia Mini which has the latest SnapDragon 1GHz CPU in it), and, with CM supporting the devices, and SE themselves saying that the 2011 lineup WILL get ICS 4.0, my next device is probably going to be one of theirs.
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I am done with HTC, so it will definitely not be one of their devices. (Quality issues abound - Sensation touch problems, Wildfire battery problems, my friend's Desire's display gave up when he didn't do an iota of modification on it, during the first 6 months, and, not to say, the entire locked bootloaders and the leaked info security hole fiasco). Not to mention, their devices are WAY overpriced for what they offer. Even today, in India, the ZTE Blade costs 25% less than the Wildfire! The Incredible S costs the same as an LG Optimus 2X!!
It's only a feel good in your hands with their devices. I agree that Samsung devices don't exude this. My Wildfire feels better in the hand than a mate's SGS1, but still, if it's innards and quality don't match it, the "premium feel" is worthless.
/End rant on HTC
While I loved the new SG Nexus, As far as my opinion goes, the GPU is not worth on it on that device. Using a PowerSGX 540 on a flagship is simply not worth it, and that is when it has a LOT more pixels to push, compared to a WVGA resolution screen, so, my unrealistic dream still remains the SGS2, which, I sincerely hope undergoes a bit of a price cut when the SGN launches.
On to the realistic devices, as I have said time and again, I am impressed with the SE Xperia 2011 lineup. They are simply unbeatable for what they offer. (Again - the Wildfire S is COSTLIER than the SE Xperia Mini which has the latest SnapDragon 1GHz CPU in it), and, with CM supporting the devices, and SE themselves saying that the 2011 lineup WILL get ICS 4.0, my next device is probably going to be one of theirs.
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You are right about everything you said, but Wildfire is my first andrid device and im somehow sentimentally bounded to HTC, but well you never know where the road can take me. I though about SGS, as a cheaper solution (price is a important asspet in my case, for now). One thing is sure im not going to take LG as i had few bad experiences with them in past.
And you are right about SGN, they made few poor moves with graphic chip and 5mp camera, but i recon Samsung is saving its strenght for SGS III.
I get what you are saying, and, even I would definitely like my next device to be an HTC (More so, because companies like Samsung and LG, they are essentially consumer goods entities - the air conditioners at my college are by Samsung, the refrigerator at my place is by LG, and so on, and, this fact is what comes first to mind when you say companies like Samsung and LG, but, HTC is just that - a 'specialist' smartphone manufacturer), but, I am somehow forcing myself to see beyond their brand value and look at better alternatives for the same price. (As you put - Price comes first)
I will definetly stay with the Wildfire for a couple of months more. Now i have the new stable Version and everything runs smooth and fast. I don't need faster devices, i like it how it is right now. Maybe i will buy some new in the future if there is enough money, but i havent thought about it yet.
There will be CM9 for the Wildfire.
I'm an optimist.
If not... I will probably buy the G2X or Sensation. G2X more likely for the price. Or a Nexus S? Who knows, I'll discuss that with my wallet.
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I get my up grade December. So I was thinking sensation or gs2 but not sure witch 1 to go for been looking at both now for the last month
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My contract ends in 2 years, hopefully optus lets me upgrade before then lol (or else I'll threaten them :L), I have no idea what phones will be out by then but I think I'll stick with samsung, there phones are so much fun lol, or maybe htc if they release anything good
If I still had my wildfire I prob would've upgraded to the sgs2.
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My bro is upgrading his phone soon to sgs2, think ill take over his sgi9000 for cheap or even free if you read this, brotherly love. lol I'll give it the life it should be having flash flash and more flashing.......
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I have my eyes on a few phones atm. Can't afford any high-end phones, so are looking for something in the mid-range. First idea was to maybe get a Wildfire S, since it should be pretty easy to do developing on. But seeing as the bootloader is still locked and you can get a much more powerful phone for just a little bit more money, I'm looking at some other options. 3 phones are currently on my list.
LG P970 Optimus Black
Huawei Vision U8850
Samsung I8150 Galaxy W
Of these, I'm leaning most towards the Samsung right now.
I agree the Wildfire and its successor are great My First Androids, but my next phone will likely be a Samsung too even if that would mean it's the same brand as my microwave oven. However, at the moment I'd rather buy a Motorola Xoom and "degrade" my Wildfire to "just a phone" for the time being. Xoom + extra battery for Wildfire (gotta keep that access point running) is cheaper then buying the Galaxy Nexus plus when an ICS phone hits the stores I can still extend my current plan for 2 years to get it.
arco68 said:
I have my eyes on a few phones atm. Can't afford any high-end phones, so are looking for something in the mid-range. First idea was to maybe get a Wildfire S, since it should be pretty easy to do developing on. But seeing as the bootloader is still locked and you can get a much more powerful phone for just a little bit more money, I'm looking at some other options. 3 phones are currently on my list.
LG P970 Optimus Black
Huawei Vision U8850
Samsung I8150 Galaxy W
Of these, I'm leaning most towards the Samsung right now.
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Please stick with the Wildfire, there has to be a way to port effin ICS.
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Not likely. ICS requires at least a dual-core ARMv7 CPU. You could get away with a single-core ARMv7 but a single-core ARMv6 is stretching it quite a bit I'm afraid.
Galaxy W is pretty decent upgrade and as for me it much more reachable than some of the flagship devices i am dreaming of.
Ill stick to a Wildfire for some time, but the day will come sooner or later.
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henkdv said:
Not likely. ICS requires at least a dual-core ARMv7 CPU. You could get away with a single-core ARMv7 but a single-core ARMv6 is stretching it quite a bit I'm afraid.
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I wouldnt agree. They said that ics will be able to run on any device whic was able to run Gingerbread. So if we take official gingerbred suported phones there is Wildfire S which has 600Mhz processor. So its not true that it requires dual core.
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I reckon the wildfire has about 6 to 12 months more left in it. Oath it has been where no one thought it would go. First got the official support from HTC (finally!). Everyone really wanted it and foolishly upgraded changing the bootloader/hboot. That is where I went, I foolishly upgraded then met xda. Seeing so many things happen and I really wanted a custom rom. It started with the urge of really wanting live wallpapers then it grew from there. Waiting for a software s-off, I stood optimistic that one was "coming" even though so many said it wouldn't happen and that the only way would be to use the hardware tool XTC clip. Waiting for so long I managed to get my hands on AlphaRevX. My phone being a locked phone on telstra it was loaded with the custom carrier hboot 02 instead of 01. Alpharev refused to work on these custom hboots so I stood on freenode until a dev came online and managed to hack up a telstra s-off hboot for me to test. I managed to get my s-off with it but by then alpharev team dropped support of hboot 02 because they would have to hack every hboot for different carriers. I soon began to flash roms and read up on all the nice roms. I tried CM7 but hated it because of the interface, I managed to fall in love with the sense interface and couldn't get away from it. I found the sense 2.1 rom and waited for it to get more stable but it was discontinued so I took over. I built my knowledge and now I am working on the rom SenseOnFire. So thats my story. I think the wildfire isn't its time yet and there are so many fantastic devs around here that don't and won't give up on this device just yet. The CM team will be able to hack up something for this device I just know it. Just think before the wildfire got official froyo no one would of thought it would ever run gingerbread.
I`ll upgrade in about an year or so, but I won`t buy a phone with a screen larger than 3.5 inches. Maybe a 3.7 of the bezel is small enough. I don`t like ping-pong paddle type of phones.
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I like big screens. 4 inch would be ideal for me.
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Gingerbread will probably run on a T-Mobile G1. Google never said "any", they said "most". The Wildfire also lacks a GPU so ICS on a Wildfire wouldn't look the same as ICS on a Nexus either.
And I agree with Alex_GP, overly large form factors are a modern reminder of those old clunky phones from 2 decades ago. The Desire S seems nice in this regard, a little bit thinner and a little bit less wide but also just a bit taller to accommodate an HVGA(!) screen. But then it has that annoying capacitive search button which always fires at the wrong moment when held in a right hand. So I guess I'll wait for an updated version of the Samsung Galaxy Ace and hope it's not as slow/fast as an overclocked Wildfire.
I think I'm going for the HTC Sensation XE.
Since I got the Wildfire, I realized that pixels ARE important (atleast for me) so qHD will be perfect for me.
4,3 inch is also perfect. Not too big, or too small. (my bro has desire HD so I kind of know how big it is).
The XE is just a beautiful beast
And luckily HTC said that it'll get ICS.
I'm not sure when I'll upgrade, but I guess soon. Maybe next week or something..
Can't stand the ldpi thing and the slow performance..
But will keep my Wildfire as a backup device.
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