W500 unable to run android but... - Acer Iconia A500

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Aspire One APD257-N578Q Series and Aspire One AOHAPPY2-N578Q Series
10.1" SD LED (1024x600)
Intel Atom N570 DC CPU
1.5GHz (downclocked or what ? http://ark.intel.com/Product.aspx?id=55637)
Dual OS with Genuine Windows 7 Starter & Android
2 GB DDR3
500GB Hard Drive
Intel Media 3150
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Prices : 11.900 THB
How come DUAL OS ?
Android can run on Atom CPU ?
So does the W500 could be able to run android ? with a trick.....

It already can using android x86 albeit not being fully fictional
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fictionnal ?
selling devices and claiming dual OS
I will check this out at the shop I want see Android running on those computer, especially not touch screen haha

This is simple ans answered many times already
Android has been ported to x86
Windows does not run on arm. Simple easy

erica_renee said:
This is simple ans answered many times already
Android has been ported to x86
Windows does not run on arm. Simple easy
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erica_renee is correct: Android is available for x86 architechture and has been available for a while now and thus it's no wonder the W500 can run it.

You can also run Android apps on any Windows PC using Bluestacks.
www.bluestacks.com/
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Virtual Machine for Android

I was just wondering, i know that there are plenty of Remote Access clients for the android, but what about a virtualPC? I would love be able to work in a windows environment when i don't have access to the interent.
With phones like the Motorola Atrix and other dual cores with plenty of memory this doesnt' seem like it's the most far fetched thing, right? Is it already available?
It's easy to emulate a Linux distro (minus a GUI cos the framebuffer I think..) but you'll be waiting for an eight-core Android phone to emulate a x86 or 64bit PC well.
ARM =/= Intel / AMD, as such, no Windows.
However, if Microsoft release an ARM version of Windows...
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Do a search on here (xda) for qemu, you can have a fully working copy of XP running
DanWilson said:
It's easy to emulate a Linux distro (minus a GUI cos the framebuffer I think..) but you'll be waiting for an eight-core Android phone to emulate a x86 or 64bit PC well.
ARM =/= Intel / AMD, as such, no Windows.
However, if Microsoft release an ARM version of Windows...
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it's a question of when, not if.
microsoft already announced that they're releasing windows 8 for arm
and they showed off a demo of office at CES
smaskell said:
it's a question of when, not if.
microsoft already announced that they're releasing windows 8 for arm
and they showed off a demo of office at CES
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So how hard would porting it be?
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well qemu for android is very beta, i mean VERY. but, on the top side it might boot XP, (not like it would work well without the dual core atrix or similar) but it would lag really bad. the HTC Evo might be able to run windows 98 or 2000 very well, but that being said it would also lag. you can try bochs/qemu for android. give it a shot, it is very straight forward to use, just put the windowsxp.img file in SDL on the SDCARD. and bam! it will boot, not saying it will be an amazing emulation, like i said before, very beta..
I'm not advocating anything here but there is a version of XP called tinyxp and as long as you have purchased XP and have a valid key its legal, the benefit of tinyxp: it runs on 40Mb of ram, and extremely low system requirements otherwise. Just make sure you have purchased XP in the past to keep it on the up and up. considering ubuntu, debian, win2k have all ran very well on my 1.8ghz ocd mytouch4g id bet tiny XP would run even better as it has less requirements than 2k pro

[Q] XP on HD 2

Hi..
I just want to ask that there's a toolbox for loading Linux in android,we can port Ubuntu in hd 2 but why we can't port windows XP in HD 2, it is completing its requirements of 400 MHz processor and 64 MB of ram. Bt HD 2 have 1 gigahertz processor and 448 MB of ram then why it is not possible.....???
Is there any project on XP for HD 2.
This is not possible! You must read about architecture of processor. In HD2 is ARM. Windows XP does not support this type of processor. It was not until Windows 8 is to have support for the ARM architecture.
Read about: ARM, CISC RISC, IA-32, ISA. Then you understand this.
WHY U WANTS XP ON HD2??
THERE ARE ALREADY MANY GR8 OS ARE AVAILABLE FOR HD2....
sachin kundu said:
WHY U WANTS XP ON HD2??
THERE ARE ALREADY MANY GR8 OS ARE AVAILABLE FOR HD2....
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Boy, XP is too a great operating system and much better then Ubuntu
agreed, but xp for a mobile.. i dont see it going very good.. mobile os and computer os should be seperate.. its fun to innovate then..

Windows 8 for Acer Tab

Heya,
I was wondering, Is there any way to put windows 8 on acer tab A500?
Thank You
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I still haven't seen anyone do that to an a500 - a w500 sure, but not on an a500. Not yet anyways.
Don't believe it will happen to be honest, There was the same question with win 7 on a galaxy tab. The hardware needs windows supported drivers, if you can't get drivers for windows then the hardware is useless...
Windows 8 is supposed to support ARM architecture, so you never really know.
That's what I've read as well but the driver... the drivers!
Who will think of the drivers!?
akram_1 said:
Heya,
I was wondering, Is there any way to put windows 8 on acer tab A500?
Thank You
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Win8 for the ARM architecture isn't even out yet in a DEV build AFAIK.
"Notebooks running Windows 8 on ARM processors rather than Intel or AMD x86 chips aren’t expected to hit the market until June 2013, insider sources have suggested, indicating Microsoft’s Windows on ARM project will lag considerably behind the mainstream build. The platform itself is tipped to go public at the end of 2012, DigiTimes‘ sources tell them, but with the first hardware not scheduled until midway through the following year, broad adoption isn’t seen until 2014 at the earliest."
http://www.slashgear.com/windows-8-arm-notebooks-and-tablets-tipped-for-mid-2013-debut-29198573/
i Have windows 8 on my HP Dm1 notebook... It runs great.. but as said above its not available for arm . WHEN Microsoft releases it There will be reference drives available for most popular Arm hardware.. this includes our tablet.
But until its released who knows..im guessing it will be mid year before there is going to be a win 8 arm.. But i also think that because of this new intel low power chip.. Microsoft could rethink there arm release if this chip provides what intel is claiming .
erica_renee said:
i Have windows 8 on my HP Dm1 notebook... It runs great.. but as said above its not available for arm . WHEN Microsoft releases it There will be reference drives available for most popular Arm hardware.. this includes our tablet.
But until its released who knows..im guessing it will be mid year before there is going to be a win 8 arm.. But i also think that because of this new intel low power chip.. Microsoft could rethink there arm release if this chip provides what intel is claiming .
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Unfortunayely the windows 8 dev release you have on your notebook is no where near what it will be at final release. I'm still waiting for my beta releases to start coming in, and can't wait!
Please have a look what they sayes on this website:
"Make the Win 8 Usb key 32bit Plug it in and run setup..
It just works..
abit slower than Win7 but of with updates arriving all the time."
http://answers.downloadatoz.com/q,31388,flash-windows-8-build-8102-on-acer-iconia-a500.html
lol, is anyone try this !
akram_1 said:
Please have a look what they sayes on this website:
"Make the Win 8 Usb key 32bit Plug it in and run setup..
It just works..
abit slower than Win7 but of with updates arriving all the time."
http://answers.downloadatoz.com/q,31388,flash-windows-8-build-8102-on-acer-iconia-a500.html
lol, is anyone try this !
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There you go, you can get all answer here on this website:
http://www.windows8news.com/2012/01/08/are-people-expecting-too-much-from-windows-8-arm-tablets/
Ssorry, but this little black duck isn't putting his expensive toy in the line of fire....
Any other victims.... Sorry, meant volunteers..
Please Dont Brick your Tablet.We do Care
Op ..
i think you really should go back looking for a forum/ website that takes about the basics of computers and computer architecture.Please do so before you are here asking someone to help you UN BRICK your Iconia .That Site you list. I checked it out..it is refering to the ms install key maker program.. It says nothing anywhere on there about the iconia a500. other then uses it as a way to get you on THAT Site to look and and hope you click on one of its adds.. the key thing it repeates over and over .. x86 x86 x86.... and 32 bit 32 bit..
when you see that.. it puts the iconia OUT of its class of Devices to run such applications or OS...
Thanks for the information.. but again i stress PLEASE if you try this stuff and brick your tablet...I will say we Warned ya over and over again...
please dont take this to be offensive but you just DO NOT KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT OR DEALING WITH.. LEAVE your tablet updates to Acer..
Welcome to XDA By the way....
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kjy2010 said:
Unfortunayely the windows 8 dev release you have on your notebook is no where near what it will be at final release. I'm still waiting for my beta releases to start coming in, and can't wait!
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I totally agree .. But i have been watching what intel is doing as well. They can be sneeky . I belive that Intel and amd. WILL soon be pushing chips that can compete with arm .im guessing it will be some type of hybrid apu. That will run in a state to handle static app like programs(for battery life) . that are linked to full blown business network capable programs such as ms office .This will allow on the go Battery life. the plug in to a full blown all out windows Computer experience.. From what i have read about windows 8 Laptops . this is the experience Ms Is currently working on with the windows 8 we can currently run .For most this will never go over well.Battery life and full blown programs NOT NET apps.. that is what PEOPLE Will Have to get TO MAKE Mobile devices work for most Business environments.
Just my Opinion.. But who really knows maybe a alien will bring something even better Giggles.

Dual booting Windows 8 and ICS

First of all, if there's already a thread about this, sorry I didn't see it but I searched.
My question is will there be a way to dual boot Windows 8 and ICS (or whatever Android we have during Win 8 tablet releases)? I've seen all the dual boot tablets introduced at Computex and INSTANTLY fell in love with the idea of having both the OS'es at my fingertips, but at the same time I know the official solutions will be unnecessarily expensive.
I was wondering if it's theoretically possible to buy a dedicated Windows 8 tablet, not the RT version, and eventually mod it to run Android. This will make my fall purchase of a tablet so much easier.
Not possible if the tablet has windows 8 ARM installed
If a tablet comes with Windows 8 ARM Preinstalled, you basically can't dual boot ICS on it. Why? Because Windows 8 for ARM requires the tablet manufacturer to enable secure boot on those devices. Thus, enabling secure boot won't let you dual boot Win8 and Android on it. Microsoft is very clever, they do really start to block linux and lock the tablets to Windows 8 ARM only.
mrchezco1995 said:
If a tablet comes with Windows 8 ARM Preinstalled, you basically can't dual boot ICS on it. Why? Because Windows 8 for ARM requires the tablet manufacturer to enable secure boot on those devices. Thus, enabling secure boot won't let you dual boot Win8 and Android on it. Microsoft is very clever, they do really start to block linux and lock the tablets to Windows 8 ARM only.
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Yea I know you can't do it with the ARM tablets, that's the windows rt version. I was asking towards the other regular Windows 8 tablets. Can you dual boot ICS on those?
iiDeadSeriousii said:
Yea I know you can't do it with the ARM tablets, that's the windows rt version. I was asking towards the other regular Windows 8 tablets. Can you dual boot ICS on those?
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Ohh... If a tablet comes with an Intel or AMD processor inside and not ARM, then this will be possible. You can dualboot Win8 and ICS on it
mrchezco1995 said:
Ohh... If a tablet comes with an Intel or AMD processor inside and not ARM, then this will be possible. You can dualboot Win8 and ICS on it
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Cool, is this already being done? Can you link if possible? I tried searching but couldn't find anything. This just made my tablet shopping a lot easier for the fall.
Android is Open Source and Windows 8 is commercial so.............
iiDeadSeriousii said:
Cool, is this already being done? Can you link if possible? I tried searching but couldn't find anything. This just made my tablet shopping a lot easier for the fall.
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Yes, you can run Android on x86, but many of the native apps won't work as they're made for arm processors. Take a look here: http://www.android-x86.org/
intel is putting its medfield CPUs, which are x86 atom-based SoCs, into android smartphones right now. Expect to see the same chips in W8 tablets. with that said, it should be fairly likely to see a dualbooting tablet.
also, i'd like to point you towards the Asus Tranformer AiO, shown off at Computex.
iiDeadSeriousii said:
Cool, is this already being done? Can you link if possible? I tried searching but couldn't find anything. This just made my tablet shopping a lot easier for the fall.
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It's already been done on some PCs, Laptops, and including a windows tablet. Check it out here
Take note that this is only Android-x86. A ported version of android for x86 devices
You can find the Android-x86 project here
Here's what a tablet with Windows 8 RT inside http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YR5Xh_1U35s
Would it be possible to run x86 windows 8 on the new medfield phones like the Orange San Diego and the Lava Xolo?
It would be interesting to run the metro ui on the smartphone itself but it will get better if you just hook up your phone to a monitor/laptop dock and enjoy a windows desktop experience (like the motorola atrix and this).
I have always been a fan of the OQO UMPC and this would be the modern version of that.
thank you
I have dual boot on a Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 (which has a x86 Intel processor) with Windows 8 Release Preview and Android ICS.
First I installed Win8 using a boot stick which you can create using this tool and the cd image you downloaded. Then I shrinked the size of the Windows partition to free up some space for Android.
Then I used the latest Atom image from Android x86 to install Android from another boot stick using this tool.
When installing Android don't forget to install GRUB boot loader.
Once you done that you can choose which OS to boot every time you start the device. Unfortunately it doesn't work using touch. You have to have a USB keyboard attached to choose the entry that is not default (in this case Windows 8).
cypher49 said:
Would it be possible to run x86 windows 8 on the new medfield phones like the Orange San Diego and the Lava Xolo?
It would be interesting to run the metro ui on the smartphone itself but it will get better if you just hook up your phone to a monitor/laptop dock and enjoy a windows desktop experience (like the motorola atrix and this).
I have always been a fan of the OQO UMPC and this would be the modern version of that.
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I think running Win8 on a Phone with a x86 cpu like the medfield atoms from intel is possible, but you can't run metro apps on the phone's screen itself because the phone only has a resolution of 1024x600. Metro apps requires 1024x768 in order to run and in order to use "snap", a resolution of 1366x768 is required. So I think you need to hook up a mouse and a keyboard on the phone in order to enjoy the new metro feature of Windows 8 on a phone hooked up to your HDTV
Memphizzz said:
I have dual boot on a Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 (which has a x86 Intel processor) with Windows 8 Release Preview and Android ICS.
First I installed Win8 using a boot stick which you can create using this tool and the cd image you downloaded. Then I shrinked the size of the Windows partition to free up some space for Android.
Then I used the latest Atom image from Android x86 to install Android from another boot stick using this tool.
When installing Android don't forget to install GRUB boot loader.
Once you done that you can choose which OS to boot every time you start the device. Unfortunately it doesn't work using touch. You have to have a USB keyboard attached to choose the entry that is not default (in this case Windows 8).
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Uhh no. Galaxy Tab 10.1s use the ARM nVidia Tegra 2 SOC and are pre loaded with android honeycomb unless you have a unique version that no one else in the world does and no one has heard about.
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Memphizzz said:
I have dual boot on a Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 (which has a x86 Intel processor) with Windows 8 Release Preview and Android ICS.
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Hey there's no Galaxy Tab with a x86 processor (Intel or AMD). If there's a samsung tab with a x86 cpu on it, then it's not on the galaxy series.
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Sorry I meant Samsung Slate 7 tablet which has a Core i5 processor...
Anyway, the method above should work with any device running an Intel processor.
@OP, Seeing as Asus has a Transformer AiO that does exactly what you said, then yes its possible
Memphizzz said:
Sorry I meant Samsung Slate 7 tablet which has a Core i5 processor...
Anyway, the method above should work with any device running an Intel processor.
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Ohh... So that's why. Hehe. Anyone makes mistakes right? Hehe. Don't worry
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Memphizzz said:
Sorry I meant Samsung Slate 7 tablet which has a Core i5 processor...
Anyway, the method above should work with any device running an Intel processor.
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Ah OK. Sorry if I came off as an ass about it.
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i'm running windows8 and ICS with dual boot on ExoPC tablet xD
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[QUESTION] Dual-Boot Android on a Windows RT tablet

This will probably be considered a noob question, and I apologize if this is question is in the wrong place, but is it within reason to dual-boot android on a windows RT tablet? The answer may determine my purchase of a windows tablet when they arrive, because I like both android and windows on tablets.
-Dave
Not possible. Windows RT uses Secure Boot, BitLocker and other security mechanisms so it will be extremely hard to break.
A little question to the OP, why?
TravisAntonio said:
A little question to the OP, why?
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Games and previously purchased apps would be my best guess. If there ends up being good android emulation (bluestacks) then I would think that there is no reason at all.
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TravisAntonio said:
A little question to the OP, why?
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Because Android was built from the ground up on mobile devices. Windows went the other way. Obviously Android does a lot of things better when mobile.
AdamOutler said:
Because Android was built from the ground up on mobile devices. Windows went the other way. Obviously Android does a lot of things better when mobile.
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jiffy1080 said:
Games and previously purchased apps would be my best guess. If there ends up being good android emulation (bluestacks) then I would think that there is no reason at all.
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The OP seems dead but thanks for your answers , maybe we will be able to boot-up Key Lime Pie when the times come.
Hmm ... Mine isnt a WinRT tablet as such but i own a ExoPC tablet and it runs both Windows and Android ...
I have tested Windows 8 Enterprise N & ICS 4.0.4 ....
U can find more info here ....
www.exocommunity.com
Regards
Currently you can run Android in a VM successfully on prior Windows editions, I have yet to run it virtually on Windows 8 BUT if you're actually buying an RT Tablet that runs on ARM, I don't suggest you purchase it hoping to run Android.
Good news? Intel is going Mobile and so is the ARM Processor and why is that good? Anyone can make it and not just anyone but Samsung is noted to be making a model FOR Android phones. Why does this matter? It means Google must be up to making Android for ARM and if that is true, I can almost bet that someone will be able to put it on a Windows RT Tablet eventually and that is the keyword, eventually.
So if you have to dual boot right this second? Buy a normal Windows 8 Tablet/Slate, not RT Tablet as they're not as powerful and "Desktop" will NOT be available but if you're not looking for power, stay with an Android Tablet or wait to see what Microsoft will be doing with the Slate.
Or Dual-Boot Android & WindowsRT on Android TABLET? :thumbup:
Time will make it happen.
Maybe run bluestacks in windows 8?
FC1032 said:
Maybe run bluestacks in windows 8?
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Like he said Lol. no need for Android, you have the best or Smoothest UI with BLUESTACK player that can run ALL ANDROID APPS so need for the OS itself. Enjoy!!!!!!!!
akbisw said:
Like he said Lol. no need for Android, you have the best or Smoothest UI with BLUESTACK player that can run ALL ANDROID APPS so need for the OS itself. Enjoy!!!!!!!!
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Read up the title dude, its - Windows RT(ARM)
Yeah, W8 will surely run Android apps via Bluestacks.(X86)
But its two OS on Single TABLET.
Remember ASUS's...tab
JB • XD/\PP
VR.gtmini said:
Read up the title dude, its - Windows RT(ARM)
Yeah, W8 will surely run Android apps via Bluestacks.(X86)
But its two OS on Single TABLET.
Remember ASUS's...tab
JB • XD/\PP
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Oh, I just thought the possibility if it was rather low (even if it was done, probably not going to be too good), so offered an easier alternative.
I mean there are even android x86 projects, just that they don't work that well and compatibility isn't the best over different hardware.
Only time will tell
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lseidman said:
Currently you can run Android in a VM successfully on prior Windows editions, I have yet to run it virtually on Windows 8 BUT if you're actually buying an RT Tablet that runs on ARM, I don't suggest you purchase it hoping to run Android.
Good news? Intel is going Mobile and so is the ARM Processor and why is that good? Anyone can make it and not just anyone but Samsung is noted to be making a model FOR Android phones. Why does this matter? It means Google must be up to making Android for ARM and if that is true, I can almost bet that someone will be able to put it on a Windows RT Tablet eventually and that is the keyword, eventually.
So if you have to dual boot right this second? Buy a normal Windows 8 Tablet/Slate, not RT Tablet as they're not as powerful and "Desktop" will NOT be available but if you're not looking for power, stay with an Android Tablet or wait to see what Microsoft will be doing with the Slate.
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Android has ALWAYS run on ARM chips. Not sure what you're talking about here...
dstruct2k said:
Android has ALWAYS run on ARM chips. Not sure what you're talking about here...
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correction. Android runs on MIPS, ARM and x86.
ARM is the most popular platform though.
kutysam said:
correction. Android runs on MIPS, ARM and x86.
ARM is the most popular platform though.
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but the assertion that Android has always run on ARM is not incorrect, the first device that Android ran on was ARM.

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