Well, technically I didn't do anything.
I just bought an HD2 off Craiglist, T8585, previously unlocked, so it would already play nice with my AT&T.
It had some SPB shell on it, so I went in to do a full data wipe and it reboots into something not stock-sense.
I attempted to boot into the bootloader and nothing happens--it just boots normally.
((Vol. down does work normally, mind you--the button is not broken.))
Any ideas as to what might be going on? I'm trying to see if they have the stock bootloader on this still, but the non-stock reset is throwing me off, as is the fact that I can't actually boot into the bootloader.
If I hold down both volumte buttons, I get a tricolor+white screen with an error, "Error: Copying file from SD Card failed, system will shut down."
Pictures attached to show current home-screen and error screen.
Thanks for your help.
Did you try without SD card? If there is something "flashable" on it, maybe your device tries to do something, but reading existing data fails.
My bro if im not wrong this hd2 seems like hd2 clone not original... so be very carefully when you try something with flashing ....
vegaobscura said:
Well, technically I didn't do anything.
I just bought an HD2 off Craiglist, T8585, previously unlocked, so it would already play nice with my AT&T.
It had some SPB shell on it, so I went in to do a full data wipe and it reboots into something not stock-sense.
I attempted to boot into the bootloader and nothing happens--it just boots normally.
((Vol. down does work normally, mind you--the button is not broken.))
Any ideas as to what might be going on? I'm trying to see if they have the stock bootloader on this still, but the non-stock reset is throwing me off, as is the fact that I can't actually boot into the bootloader.
If I hold down both volumte buttons, I get a tricolor+white screen with an error, "Error: Copying file from SD Card failed, system will shut down."
Pictures attached to show current home-screen and error screen.
Thanks for your help.
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wats d purpose of you wanting to check bootloader ?
I assume all you want back is Sense UI ?
Sense UI would be a start, yes, but I would have liked to flash WP7 and/or Android onto it, too.
Emm, i think that thats not HTC HD 2, thats MKT HD2, a clone looks almost 1:1 compared to htc hd 2.
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Sense UI would be a start, yes, but I would have liked to flash WP7 and/or Android onto it, too.
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Simply go to Start--Settings--
home--Items--Check HTC Sense and uncheck all the rest
that should do...
also if it is an hd2 and you have wm on it there are many endkeys / apps that have a reboot into bootloader.
ex:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=786524
vegaobscura said:
Well, technically I didn't do anything.
I just bought an HD2 off Craiglist, T8585, previously unlocked, so it would already play nice with my AT&T.
It had some SPB shell on it, so I went in to do a full data wipe and it reboots into something not stock-sense.
I attempted to boot into the bootloader and nothing happens--it just boots normally.
((Vol. down does work normally, mind you--the button is not broken.))
Any ideas as to what might be going on? I'm trying to see if they have the stock bootloader on this still, but the non-stock reset is throwing me off, as is the fact that I can't actually boot into the bootloader.
If I hold down both volumte buttons, I get a tricolor+white screen with an error, "Error: Copying file from SD Card failed, system will shut down."
Pictures attached to show current home-screen and error screen.
Thanks for your help.
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from looking at the picture, its hard to tell if it is a clone...if it is not an HTC HD2, but rather a clone, more photos of the device would clarify it. the body is not clearly visible in the two pictures you've attached.
if it is a clone, that would explain the little "surprises" you are encountering here and there
Further investigation yields that the hard-reset ROM does not have Sense stock, so I'm guessing that this is, sadly, a clone.
I had no way to tell at the time, as the previous owner had some shell installed and I couldn't tell from the body alone--it looks like a real one, and it was advertised (and had the box/materials of) a legit HTC phone...
Sucks that I've been scammed and that I'm out the amount I paid. First time I've ever been burned off CL.
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Further investigation yields that the hard-reset ROM does not have Sense stock, so I'm guessing that this is, sadly, a clone.
I had no way to tell at the time, as the previous owner had some shell installed and I couldn't tell from the body alone--it looks like a real one, and it was advertised (and had the box/materials of) a legit HTC phone...
Sucks that I've been scammed and that I'm out the amount I paid. First time I've ever been burned off CL.
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how do you know its a clone ? may be the ROM is a NON-Sense D) ROM !!!
"MTKProfessional" is an appearance type on the phone. This, combined with the quirks and comparing it to a review of the "HD9" leads me to believe it's in fact a clone--and not even the pretty impressive v2 clone.
I'm disappointed, really.
it looks so real !
Holy ****, Vagues.
theres previous news & complain about the HD2 KIRF edition, almost look the same but weight & hardware quality is different.
try to get a refund
Sent an email. No response.
He obviously knew...further investigation yielded an account bearing his name on "asianfoneforums".
I'm disappointed in people right now, man.
vegaobscura said:
Sent an email. No response.
He obviously knew...further investigation yielded an account bearing his name on "asianfoneforums".
I'm disappointed in people right now, man.
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To be honest, I wouldn´t have noticed that you might have a clone just from the pictures you posted - but another poster discovered that fact.
Now, that´s what I call criminal - no less. A fake with a kind of a "phantasy" name is one thing, but to sell a copied device, which carries the real brand, as a real product, is indeed criminal. In my country, it´s even an official crime.
I´m sorry for you, mate. It´s not nice getting ripped off like this.
I wonder if you can't turn that guy in at the police.
I think you have all the evidence that he know this was a fake.
Also if you look at the loudspeaker grill (where you put your ear at), mine is black and this one looks silver.
seems like a clone to me. the sensors (light and proximity) are larger, and the bootloader screen is a bit different.
Hw do u know if one is a clone?
Related
I read on FixYa that getting stuck in a loop on the second (android) boot screen can be caused, possibly/maybe/guessing/testing by running something from the SD card. I had my (native) wallpaper there, had just done it, and I got stuck in the android screen loop. Factory ROM 1.1 Tmo US.
I'm sure I installed some apps today, but nothing crazy functional, and tweaked some things. Day 2 for me. Just scoping out wallpapers, and bam.
I don't particularly want to do this again, so I'm wondering if anyone can shed any light on the subject. I guess it's happened to at least a few people.
My FixYa post had something to say about leaving WM, possibly, in pursuit of something more reliable....
use ddms or do a logcat to see if there is a problem.
Sorry, day number 2
You might as well be speaking Swahili. I'll google around and find something, but in the future if you're offering help to a real pleeb, and one might find this post later, a link or something, or a translation of what you're talking about would be very helpful.
ddms
Uh, I'm still in the dark, too. ddms doesn't seem to find the device at all. I was operating the factory Tmo image, so I wasn't rooted or anything (funny thing, it wasn't the first thing I wanted to do with the phone). I haven't the foggiest idea how to get the unit properly connected to the PC, even. 2 days.
I do appreciate the tip. It will get me somewhere.
Not that it matters, but I already hard reset. I really didn't have anything on there I was going to keep (Locale settings, and I was sorry to lose the SMS's, but it wasn't that many). I was planning on flashing anyway.
Edit:
logcat Errors
05-23 02:50:31.243: ERROR/EventHub(48): could not get driver version for /dev/input/mouse1, Not a typewriter
05-23 02:50:31.343: ERROR/EventHub(48): could not get driver version for /dev/input/mouse0, Not a typewriter
05-23 02:50:31.373: ERROR/EventHub(48): could not get driver version for /dev/input/mice, Not a typewriter
05-23 02:56:22.423: ERROR/Uapi(148): Microphone Cannot Stop in Unknown State 3.
I'm putting my sim card back in my wizard for the night.... I"ll probably get the hard SPL and flash tomorrow.
Is there a way to identify hardware problems with this pile of tools?
ddms offers logcat viewing abilities. Your link was correct, you just have to run ddms from the tools folder of the SDK. If it doesn't find your device try installing the drivers (and make sure the phone is connected) if it still doesn't find it than there is nothing to do really.
To see a logcat without ddms try this in a command prompt
adb shell logcat -d V > adb.txt
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ddms
In my relatively limited experience, particularly with xda-dev, there never truly is "nothing to do." By doing nothing, what am I doing? Giving up and throwing the phone in the garbage? Pursuing & reinstalling the usb driver (which is what I did)? Should I be hearing something kinda like (less comfortable to say?),"I've never run into that, so I don't know what to do in that instance." IMHO, it's better to define that you don't know something; it highlights what you *do* know and makes it easier to see. I'm having a hard time figuring out what you're trying to tell me, unless what you're telling me is very open-ended. If it is, just say so.
So, I do appreciate being able to see what's going on with ddms, but in this instance, what am I looking for?
errors, warnings. Basically anything not in black text LOL
can you not try a factory wipe/reset
Try booting the phone up while pressing the home key, then press Alt+L to turn on the text display then alt +W to wipe the phone that should recover it.
You may need to change the SPL on the phone and do some other minor tweaks Read the rooting thread on here as it explains what i am trying to explain but makes it alot clearer.
or if you wanted to go down the root road then remove your sd card and got the appropriate sticked thread and download a rom i chose JeasusFreake's 1.5 ADP1 build. put the update.zip on the SD card with no other files and boot the phone up with home pressed down
Alt+ L
Alt+W
Alt+ S
and if you are going to use JeasusFreake's rom then download the HTC cupcake radio from http://www.htc.com/www/support/android/adp.html
Gday all.. Think I have received a clone of a HTC T3232 from ebay, its even in HTC covers, how bad's that! (dispute in progress).
It does not respond to the HTC reset method (volume down & enter while switched off, and the small reset button at same time) so I can only presume its a clone.
Anyway the main problem is screen calibration, its out by miles, I cant even use the slide bar down the right hand side of screen.. I have done the calibration about 20 times via display settings and it does not help, the best reset I can do is via the clear memory tab in settings, that didnt fix it either.. Im not sure what its issue is, cant even figure out what sort of phone these "ripoff merchants" have sent me..
Any help would be much appreciated & thanks for reading my post
matt47 said:
Gday all.. Think I have received a clone of a HTC T3232 from ebay, its even in HTC covers, how bad's that! (dispute in progress).
It does not respond to the HTC reset method (volume down & enter while switched off, and the small reset button at same time) so I can only presume its a clone.
Anyway the main problem is screen calibration, its out by miles, I cant even use the slide bar down the right hand side of screen.. I have done the calibration about 20 times via display settings and it does not help, the best reset I can do is via the clear memory tab in settings, that didnt fix it either.. Im not sure what its issue is, cant even figure out what sort of phone these "ripoff merchants" have sent me..
Any help would be much appreciated & thanks for reading my post
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I think (and I could be wrong) that its volume down and enter then the power button for the touch 3g.
yes I tried that to, doesnt seem to work.. this is why im wondering if this thing is a HTY or something similar to a HTC, in HTC covers.. quite a letdown ..
the digitizer is miles out of wack .. is there a chance this is a rom issue or would the touch pad its self be shot ?
I've read somewhere about a clone having a different brand processor, check your system information:
start -> settings -> hardware
The real thing has the qualcomm 7225
Try to download an official rom update from the htc website. You will have to enter the serial-number of your device. If they deliver the download to your pc, you can be pretty sure it is not a fake one...
Is it not vol+ vol- and the power button all at the same time for hard reset?
Ok thanks guys, getting somewhere but its not all good, it has a Marvell pxa300 624MHZ CPU
one of the first things I tried a few days ago was updates from the HTC site, and it did NOT accept my serial number, so I think its a clone for sure. so my question is, will origional HTC software work on this clone if I download it from this site, OR will it not work because of the different processor ?
Should I even bother flashing the ROM as the opsys seems to be working fine, just the digitizer is out by miles, I ran DigItest last night and the screen was not always responding in the correct spot, correct maybe 50% of the time and the other 50% of the time it was miles out. almost NOnresponsive around the edges of the digitizer.
The seller I got it from also sells digitizers for this model lol.. I have to wonder if he didnt try to repair this phone from new, maybe a factory second or something ..
So guys whatya think?, flash rom, or grab a new digitizer from the 3bay ?
You got a clone for sure. But if you have buy it for less money i think its obvious its a clone. I got a clone too but i'm very happy with mine. No hardware issues for now, only some hard resets. I think you cant put a original ROM on a clone or can you? Btw in the phone info if for the model you got T3238 then you can be 101% sure its a clone
P.S. Btw the clone dont have build in GPS.
ok, yeah its t3238.. im prety sure it has inbuilt gps, they a$$ured me it did, but anthings possible im yet to test it coz the digitizer screens annoying me to much, dont want to even attempt to try and use it until I fix it.
Dont think the HTC rom works but im not 100% sure, im not used to these phones & there ways yet, still pretty much learning !
well, did you buy a clone or did you buy the real tough 3g? what did the presentation look like? i mean if the presentation lied to you, you did not pay money for the clone but for the real thing. then you might be able to redo the contract with the seller... maybe... good luck!
found the clone!
http://www.cectunlocked.com/OEM-HTC-Touch-3238-3232-Quad-Band-Phone-with-Windows-Mobile-6.1-WiFi-GPS.html
well...
ahh its a spitting image of a HTC, its in HTC covers, with HTC written all over it, apart from one spot I found inside the rear cover its clearly marked HTY.
The seller I used on 3bay told me it was a HTC not a clone, his discription was very deceiving. The phone turned up in a HTC box, with a HTC disc & HTC instructions, batterys and all other accessories INCLUDING THE BOX lol are all origional HTC products, apart from the phone its self! .. the phones a cheap ripoff - in a HTC box. go figure..
Still wondering if it needs a digitizer or the rom flashed..
I've also recently received a 3238 model which i believe to be cloned. It's in Chinese and i want to flash it to English but am unable to perform a HardSpl. If i hold down volume and press the on button i just get a screen that says ''USB update mode'' nothing happens if i try to run v4.1. If i try to run a new ROM i get error [206] unable to connect. Anyone have any ideas on how to get an English ROM onto it? Any advice would be much appreciated!
thers a seller on ebay that has the english rom for them, but he wont share
otherwise i dunno, HTC need to sue them
he did tell me its "over 60mb" .. i couldnt find it, getting really sick of the site of chinese to english translations! lol..
.. im going to buy a case of bourbon - stuff this phone, I hate it
.. LOL !!
IT WASNT MENT TO BE THIS WAY
matt47 said:
The seller I used on 3bay told me it was a HTC not a clone...
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So! There is the fact! He did not give you what you have bought! He did not fullfil the contract! Give him a deadline to send you a proper HTC Touch 3G, afterwards cancel the contract, get the money back and get a proper one by amazon or some other good store.
Next time when buying a clone, do it directly here http://www.china-phone.org/ or check here for nice clones http://www.clonedinchina.com/.
Loool! I think the fake HTC 3G has an even more powerful CPU then the real one !?
Can that be?
624MHz vs. 528 MHz - I'm not too familiar with cell phone CPUs but 96 more
fake real
I'm glad I read this thread. I'm looking for a Jade, saw a T3232 that was a good price on ebay, then spotted it had dual sim
HI 79, there is no contract I bought it outright, a damaged claim is in progress so effectively this phone wont cost me anything , hopefully Now i just have to save the phone from the bin !!!
DUAL SIM ? .. This clone does nOt have dual sim, its exactly the same layout as a HTC 3G .. very hard to pick from a HTC inless you have seen a HTC before, you wouldnt really spot the difference..
I think mine may have a faulty digitizer, Not the Rom.. Whos with me on that ?.. As the digitizers not to expensive and the jobs not that hard, im thinking of giving it a go, could be easier than trying to find the rom ?..
U guys/gals think its worth a try or should I wait until the roms up and try that first ?
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I've also recently received a 3238 model which i believe to be cloned. It's in Chinese and i want to flash it to English but am unable to perform a HardSpl. If i hold down volume and press the on button i just get a screen that says ''USB update mode'' nothing happens if i try to run v4.1. If i try to run a new ROM i get error [206] unable to connect. Anyone have any ideas on how to get an English ROM onto it? Any advice would be much appreciated!
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I cant even get to that screen with that method so im wondering if either your clones different to mine, OR maybe yours is a proper one ?.
Does it have HTY in small letters on the inside of the the back cover by any chance ?
It doesn't say HTY anywhere on the phone but if i run my finger over the HTC part of the lettering on the battery it is slightly raised, seems they've craftily painted over the original lettering. I've compared the phone to a real one and it is slightly bigger in size. The phone actually works really well, don't have any issues with it, just want to get it into English!!
I just went on ebay to check the prices on the Jade. The ones that are $200 are obviously clones. The real ones are atleast 350+. I was able to get mine for 320 with the 8% from live checkout
Can I get some quick help please. If the phone boots up with that message then is that standard for a retail unit? Thanks
Mine didn't, but mine came from O2 not direct from Dell.
Mine doesn't and it's direct from Dell.
Ok, this one that I won on ebay but not paid for it yet. It says its from O2 and brand new in box with screen protector, but doesn't sound like retail?
The seller says: "what you seen online photos are promo converse i have not touched my unit
are original stickers and screen protector and when you start up the unit
it show dell confidential"
What do you think & what would you do?
Thanks
Must say have not read of anyone saying that before and i read everything on the net about the streak
hmm i've been reading a lot around this forum and a couple others and never heard of that.
I think its either 1 of 2 things. 1 is that it could be a custom bootscreen that someone made and put it on (very simple to do). or 2 is that is running some beta build of android. Sometimes manufacturers will put confidential or similar terms on prototypes and pre-release devices.
Go to settings-> about phone-> Software information and either post a screen shot of that page or type that info out here.
ok thanks for the info guys. I have not paid for the item just yet but I won the auction today. So basically do not have the item on me. Do you guys think its legit then as it's meant to be locked onto O2? Am guessing the firmware can be updated to the latest one but hoping the phone itself is same as retail? Will probably be paying through paypal so hopefully I have some security if things go wrong.
The device is beta-quality.
Biggest drawback is that it lacks the "fastboot" option (which is mandatory for ROM upgrade).
This means the model can never be upgraded.
skliarie said:
The device is beta-quality.
Biggest drawback is that it lacks the "fastboot" option (which is mandatory for ROM upgrade).
This means the model can never be upgraded.
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What are you talking about? Where did you get your information? And why are you opening a year old thread?????
The Streak has fastboot. Most of the people on this forum have upgraded or changed their ROM. And this OLD thread was referring to the pre-release Streak of a year ago. The Streak of today is certainly not "beta-quality"!!!
Mods - This thread should be locked as it is outdated.
ive seen that image loc somewhere in framrwork-res/res/
Changing the Dell startup logo... not easily done as fone_fanatic suggested, bootanimation sure, but not the dell logo. My best guess is a beta/testing device. which ..should.. have fastboot I would imagine.
this guy could have some cool stuff on the there, send TheManii a system dump.
I would love 2 things.... how to customize dell logo on startup, not boot animation, logo, probably mroe involved than its worth, I think its encrypted. And fina a list of all the fastboot dialer codes.. they have to be hidden deep in the system, otherwise how would the device recognize them. Its all low level bootloader stuff, though, a bit beyond me.
chrisrotolo said:
ive seen that image loc somewhere in framrwork-res/res/
Changing the Dell startup logo... not easily done as fone_fanatic suggested, bootanimation sure, but not the dell logo. My best guess is a beta/testing device. which ..should.. have fastboot I would imagine.
this guy could have some cool stuff on the there, send TheManii a system dump.
I would love 2 things.... how to customize dell logo on startup, not boot animation, logo, probably mroe involved than its worth, I think its encrypted. And fina a list of all the fastboot dialer codes.. they have to be hidden deep in the system, otherwise how would the device recognize them. Its all low level bootloader stuff, though, a bit beyond me.
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I have seen that message on a friends streak, and definitely there is fastboot but the device is kindda semi bricked(??), you cant put any custom image on it, neither any other official rom.
The message actually says something like this:
Dell Confidential
The emergency software recovery failed please contact a nearest dell service center to get it repaired, do not pull the battery out of the unit, or try to restore factory defaults.
After that the phone boots up normally( however the phone factory resets on its own a lot, like once or twice a day)
354 rom is installed on the phone
and streakmod recovery while installing(Any custom rom) says that the sd card is not detected.
This happened after he tried something with QDL.
However dell is replacing the unit.
We are even unable to take a nandroid of the phone.
Seems like a bad internal sd card
IMHO to the OP refrain to buy the unit.....
I have recently acquired a htc hd2 T8585 which has Android 2.3.4. installed on the NAND flash memory. I wish to install the stock win 6.5 rom or experiment with some of the other roms but ive hit a brick wall. Every how to and piece of infomation ive read about the subject refers to the red, green, blue and white bootloader screen that you reach by pressing the volume and power buttons a certain way. This bootloader is not on my hd2, instead it has android recovery mode which consists of six options:
1.reboot system now
2.apply update from sdcard
3.wipe data/ factory reset
4.wipe cache partition
5.backup user data
6.restore user data.
Theres also a empty 16 GB micro sd card and ive tried finding out how to do it that way as well but all options require the original bootloader.
Basically it seems i can't do jack without the bootloader.
Has anyone enccounterd this problem? Any ideas?
help much appreciated
law 180
the real bootloader will still be there, the phone cant work without it. What you are seeing is a secondary bootloader.
phone off
press hold and keep holding vol-down (not vol-up)
tap and release power
keep holding vol-down
stripey screen should appear.
if it doesn't, you have a fault.
Factory mode
Hey samsamuel thanks for the reply. After following your instructions the phone went into an android factory mode istead of recovery mode and after running some tests displayed these options:
Factory mode
1.Full test
2.Item test
3.Test report
4.Clear flash
5.Version
6.Reboot
I still can't see how to install a new rom from this point. Any ideas?
Thanks.
hmmm,, doesnt sound like an HD2 to me, , , fake chinese import? wrongly identified device? got a photo of it?
Whatever your device is, it's not an HD2 I'm afraid. I'd agree with samsamuel, pics might help.
Its definitely a HD2 and im now guessing probabley a chinese copy, though the phone feels pretty solid but i don't have a lot of expirence in these matters. Under the battery it says HD2 T8585 and its made in Taiwan also has a imei number etc Here are some photos, sorry about the quality.
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Its definitely a HD2 and im now guessing probabley a chinese copy, though the phone feels pretty solid but i don't have a lot of expirence in these matters. Under the battery it says HD2 T8585 and its made in Taiwan also has a imei number etc Here are some photos, sorry about the quality.
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Yep, that's a copy. The sensor in the first pic (on the top left) is far too pronounced and the stuff under the battery is different to the one under mine. Also, I don't know if it's just me but the bezel seems a little too big as well. Sorry, but this isn't an HD2.
yea that orange charge light is way out of position, (thats about where the proximity sensor should be, the orange light should be inside teh earpiece grill, tucked into teh left corner.) , its a good copy, though, if it is , there were some terrible ones a year or two back.
Ah to bad, thanks for the help guys. Luckily i didnt pay anything for it, tempted to buy a real one now.
My Note 3 died on me recently. The screen flashed lots of colours and went off. If I boot it up, sometimes the screen works for a few seconds, then it 'crackles' with colours and goes off again.
I think the phone itself still runs, but you can't see. I took it to an official Samsung repair place, we thought just the screen needed replacing, but the new screen did the same. They think the main board has gone, which looks quite expensive.
If I boot into recovery, can I get a backup from it with the screen off using the command prompt? There's only a few apps I would like the data from.
I'm thinking I might do this, then buy a cheap 2nd hand Note 3 and sell this one for spares/repairs. (I have no warranty)
Through ADB you can copy data from phone.
Thanks, can you give any detail on how?
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Thanks, can you give any detail on how?
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Using ADB, there is not quick way about it.
What i mean is i cannot just give you a one liner and away you go with it.
Do a quick search, Or start here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2011811