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Hi all,
I had an accident and fell flat down to the ground with my TyTN in the belt pocket, exactly between my hip bone and the ground.
Now I have some more cosmetic plastic issues, but this would be acceptable. The bad thing is the Mail button is like a "sensor key" now, but works. The really bad thing is, the plastic speaker item inside (connected to the toppoly board, the speaker where the sound during calls comes out) is completely smashed and there's no more sound.
Since the rest is perfectly well, no screen damage (and no wrong alignments!!!) I would like to keep this phone but need a new speaker.
Could you guys help me to find such a speaker? The only part number on it is
501E6234A . It is a white plastic part, two gold connectors on the board side, a metal cover (now smashed) and a membrane on between the cover. You can see it on the attached pic, it's the white plastic rectangle in the middle.
Any help would be very much appreciated!
Thanks in advance and greetings from Munich,
Torben
Hi Torben...
Did you ever find a replacement speaker? I have the same problem as you and need one
Thanks
Hey Fallingonion,
I am sorry, but I don't have any good news... I was in contact with a German company that usually repairs all kind of mobile phones for sales companies. They told me since the device is still too new they haven't received any replacement parts yet. The only way to have it repaired would be sending it in to HTC.
I did that in December and am still waiting for it to come back - and what it will cost.
How did you break your phone?
Torben
I've seen a few parted out Hermes on ebay - you might try that.
Hey lacroixdp,
thanks for this hint, too bad it's too late for me - but maybe Fallingonion can get a new speaker from there.
Greetings,
Torben
kic said:
Hey lacroixdp,
thanks for this hint, too bad it's too late for me - but maybe Fallingonion can get a new speaker from there.
Greetings,
Torben
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I've done some digging around, and may have found a suitable alternative It looks like the Motorola L6 / L7 might use the same part...
I figured the speaker would not be unique to the TyTN - some other phone or PDA must use the same one - so I went looking for disassembly instructions for other phones in the hope that they might show the same speaker.
If you check Step 9 in this pdf you can see what looks like the same earpiece speaker (even though it looks like they may have unfortunately damaged it during removal - you can see the metal face plate is still attached to the front of the phone.) What do you think?
I've ordered one to see if it fits - I'll let you know what I find
I didn't actually break mine - I bought one from eBay, only to find that the earpiece distorted if you turned the volume up So I took it apart and found that the metal shield on the front of the speaker was dented slightly - I guess enough for the speaker membrane to hit it.
If the Motorola speaker works, maybe you can get your phone back from HTC before they charge you a fortune?
Wow, yes, definitely looks the same - I simply cannot say anything about the actual size.
Let me know what comes out - too bad I already sent mine in for a repair! I doubt I can still get it back without a repair :-(
I am curious though anyway
Torben
kic said:
Wow, yes, definitely looks the same - I simply cannot say anything about the actual size.
Let me know what comes out - too bad I already sent mine in for a repair! I doubt I can still get it back without a repair :-(
I am curious though anyway
Torben
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I'll let you know as soon as I get it - hopefully it will be soon
kic said:
Wow, yes, definitely looks the same - I simply cannot say anything about the actual size.
Let me know what comes out - too bad I already sent mine in for a repair! I doubt I can still get it back without a repair :-(
I am curious though anyway
Torben
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Difficult to say if this the TyTn front speaker (earpiece) is identical to the one shown in Motorola PDF, might well function ok even if specs are slightly different though. In terms of delicate electronics were at the ironmongery end of the scale here!!!
Mike
mikechannon said:
Difficult to say if this the TyTn front speaker (earpiece) is identical to the one shown in Motorola PDF, might well function ok even if specs are slightly different though. In terms of delicate electronics were at the ironmongery end of the scale here!!!
Mike
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That's what I'm hoping, Mike
The speaker in your photos looks exactly like the one in the TyTN - are they of the TyTN earpiece or the Motorola one?
EDIT by Mike - The pictures above are of the TYTN fron speaker/earpiece. And we now know the Motorola L6/L7 does work as a replacement.
I know that it is a complete offtopic ... but this is the reason why I use the aluminium case for my Vario II it just saves lifes ..
Just as an update - the replacement Motorola speaker that I was sent works fine
It was not a perfect match for the old one - it was necessary to slightly bend the contacts outwards to make sure that they made proper contact with the pads on the circuit board - but other than that replacement was simple. Sound quality of the new speaker is fine, and seems a bit louder than the original, although I could be imagining that
In case anyone else has the same problem, the only place in the UK that I could find advertising the necessary part was Phatphones (see "Speaker/Earpiece for Motorola L6/L7" on this page.) The part was quite expensive compared to other replacement speakers, but as I said it was the only one available.
Cheers all -
When your speaker out of order, did you try to using the orignal headset? I have the same accident as you did. But ,There is no sound at all.I try to using the orignal headset, but still don't work. I am not sure , if it is the speaker problem or the sound IC problem. Now. I can only using the Bluetooth headset.
Hi All
My wife's recently got a Hero but she's found a problem with her long nails making typing difficult (capacitive screens don't work with fingernails!)
I've bought a couple of different types of iPhone stylus' but, though they do work, you have to really press quite [scarily] hard to make them register.
Can anyone recommend a stylus that works smoothly and without too much pressure?
Thanks!
The Pogo ones seem to be the most common iPhone ones, have you tried one of them?
Not yet - will seek one out. Thanks!
Did a quick search on Ebay - Item number: 390096569342 free postage too
Anybody have any joy resolving this?
Not yet. I was going to try a Pogo stylus but then found a review that suggests that it may be no different than the other stylus' I've bought. I can actually believe this because I've now managed to test the stylus' I've bought on an actual iPhone and they work far, far better than on the Hero
...not sure where to go from here.
It seems that HTC has lodged a stylus patent specifically for capacitive screens
http://htcpedia.com/news/htc-patents-stylus-for-capacitive-touch-screene.html
Thanks for the update. there has to be a lo-tech fix for this though. I'm going to have a think & a Google search & I'll let you know what I turn up
I found this but I'm not sure I like the idea of metal on glass
http://blog.makezine.com/archive/2009/06/diy_iphone_stylus.html
Update: Metal actually works on the screen!
Update: got this now http://www.flickr.com/photos/antisynoptique/3225070344/in/photostream/ my mind is thinking hard. JTHM what do the ends of your stylus' look like?
There's no helping some people.
Have you tried this?
+1 lol
topjolly
You'll be sorry when I make my own lo-tech stylus! I'll show you.
I'LL SHOW YOU ALL!
Sorry,
Sometimes I get a bit carried away, I just think that there is a better way & telling my better half to trim her nails (although it is a good idea) wont really fly
I always wait till my Japanese friends did something wrong and then ask them for Yubitsume. Works like a real finger
i was going to post a picture of a chopped off finger to be a smartass so i did a google image search...
now im mentally scarred for life :/
The best stylus I have ever used is the papermate flexgrip elite M. They come in different colors and double as a pen which is what they really are. I recommend highly. I change color with the outfit I'm wearing. I'm in IT Networking so I always keep one in my shirt pocket. My job gives them out. Once you start using them you wont be able to go back to a regular stylus. I can't. You want to see it with the cap on the pen side, not the clip side. I use the small stylus side.
Hey all, watching some flash videos today made me notice how poorly the N1 puts sound out the back speaker, even compared to my old G1. I remember back in my Blackberry days that people used to mod the backs to "let more sound get out", and so I started looking into this...
First off, the speaker is GINORMOUS in relation to the slit. If you look inside the back where the speaker is, you can see a little internal grille, and the small slit for sound to escape. There's also a TON more room where that grille isnt attached to the back (same shape as the slit, only about 5x the size) that could be milled out pretty easily, and still retain the "keep crap out of the back" feature of the grille.
So, this leaves me with a few questions:
Where can I get a replacement back, in case my mill catches a bit more than I anticipate?
Anyone else interested? I figure if I set up to do one, I might as well bang a few others out instead of setting up multiple times.
Once I get a second back, I will be going at this with pics and hopefully notable improvement in projecting sound into my hand, and back toward my face!
I might not be a software hacker, but when it comes to this sort of thing, I figure its the best way I can give back to the community!
Give HTC support a call and tell them your cover doesn't line up properly(I don't think any of them do) they'll send you out a replacement. If they don't they can sell you one for ten bucks I think.
Hope to hear good results from your mod, might do it myself.
I actually think the small slit does something to amplify the sound..
Take the back off, play music, put it on. Notice it gets louder when you place it back on..
I don't know though, but I'll be following this thread!
Wisefire said:
I actually think the small slit does something to amplify the sound..
Take the back off, play music, put it on. Notice it gets louder when you place it back on..
I don't know though, but I'll be following this thread!
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Yea, I think the OP should test and see if there's even a noticeable difference without the back cover. I would think not...
Try removing the cover, sounds WAY worse.
Yes, I completely realize the back sounds bad off, its acting as a resonator, or isolating front from back waves of the speaker, which causes phase cancellation. Thus why im not removing the cover, just making the one hole bigger. It SHOULD not lose the "low end" that it has with the back on (if you want to call it that.
Either way, Im hacking at least one up, Ill post results!
Do it. (poor phone!)
I would suggest to replace the speaker with a Desire one, some people who have both phones pretend it's way louder on Desire, and yes it's the same form factor and size so it should fit
It is quite a bit louder without the cover but sounds bad due to the lack of resonance.
Shouldnt be too bad with just an enlargement, make sure you put something to block out dust. Let us know how it goes.
I've found that attaching one of these to the back quite useful...
or try a vuvuzela
I think the engineer who designed that whole was well aware of resonance qualities. If you make that whole and turns out better, you should apply to HTC job hehe...
@Hummeroid
Good idea ...
What about drilling mini-holes arround the "slit" ?
Instead of making ONE BIG hole ...
Very Interesting mod idea...I think the small drilled holes would be an effective test.
Or just cup your left hand around the back of the phone.
I looking for the out come of this.
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Or just cup your left hand around the back of the phone.
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hah, I've never seen anyone else do it, but I do this all the time if I'm showing people a video or am in a noisy setting (ie. party)
clickwir said:
hah, I've never seen anyone else do it, but I do this all the time if I'm showing people a video or am in a noisy setting (ie. party)
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Nah, everyone does it.. I mostly do it when I want to listen to something quiet, I can turn it down and redirect the sound towards me.
I actually have a really good pair of earphones. I prefer that the main speaker is in the back, instead of in the earpiece like some phones. Prevents earspeaker blowout and call quality is damn good with this phone so far.
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Or just cup your left hand around the back of the phone.
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I try to put it up against a wall. Your hand can work to absorb sound waves, thus deadening sound and lowering overall quality; but drywall bounces the sound waves back nearly impeccably. Desks, etc, any hard surface should do the trick.
Like it has a spring inside?
No, I'm not kidding here!
Hold the phone between your index finger and thumb about 1/4 way from the bottom and tap the back near the camera while listening. You can actually feel it too, like there is a spring inside. Not sure if it's the battery terminals or the display inside. I have the 16GB Korean model if that makes any difference.
I will try using the voice recorder to see if it can be recorded in case nobody else's phone does this. I've had it in many different cases as well, does not make any difference in the sound.
EDIT: The voice recorder and video camera (using the same mic) do not pic up this "anomaly". It would have to be recorded with another device.
cpufrost said:
Like it has a spring inside?
No, I'm not kidding here!
Hold the phone between your index finger and thumb about 1/4 way from the bottom and tap the back near the camera while listening. You can actually feel it too, like there is a spring inside. Not sure if it's the battery terminals or the display inside. I have the 16GB Korean model if that makes any difference.
I will try using the voice recorder to see if it can be recorded in case nobody else's phone does this. I've had it in many different cases as well, does not make any difference in the sound.
EDIT: The voice recorder and video camera (using the same mic) do not pic up this "anomaly". It would have to be recorded with another device.
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How often do you go around tapping your phone with it up to your ear?
I think it's either the camera lens or the vibration module. This is very normal, don't worry about it.
Obagleyfreer said:
How often do you go around tapping your phone with it up to your ear?
I think it's either the camera lens or the vibration module. This is very normal, don't worry about it.
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Just curious as to what's inside causing this. I felt it, if you hold it up to your ear you can hear a distinct "boing" when it's tapped.
Speaking of camera lens is the "stabilizer" function of the camera digital or active, i.e. suspended elements servo controlled, etc. ?
None of my other phones do this.
Some may call me crazy, but I do enjoy that sound. Not quite as good as the ting my s2 used to make doing the same thing
I get it too. Not worried about it.
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s4 weird feel
I noticed that too and they replicated that feel to the charger that came with it. kinda weird.
same here
i have it also...and is actually very bad. i tried to get it replaced, but the guys from samsung said it's normal and it will not affect the hardware of the phone. the phone is working great...without any problems,lags or errors so i think i will leave it that way. i watched a video on youtube about how to disassemble the s4, and i think is the vibrator motor. i hope so...because if is not the next think would be the display. if someone has any other clues please let us know
Its just the vibration module, the force makes it spin slightly causing the "springy" feeling like a light vibration, same with plugging your charger in its just haptic feedback bud
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Well, my beloved Moto X is now on it's way to El Paso, TX to be dissected and man-handled. I got a little tired of the gook in the microphone port and used compressed air to clean it out. Turns out this is a pretty dumb move to make :crying: I'd actually done it once before without incident, but this time it must have perforated something.
While I know this is my own dumb fault, I've *never* broken a phone before. I have a decent collection of completely scratch-free and 100% functional devices, I'm disappointed that this was fragile enough to be broken so easily. OK, yeah, it was probably the equivalent of hitting some Saran Wrap with a hurricane, but still disappointing.
My advice to everyone is to be extra careful with that particular awkwardly placed dirt-trapping hole in the front of your phone. I wasn't about to stick a pin in there, but my chosen alternative proved to be just as tragic. I have to assume that an equal amount of vacuum would also yield similar bad results. Not sure how we're supposed to clean this thing, or perhaps more importantly why it's designed in such a way that it would get so filthy in the first place.
*sigh*
djp952 said:
Well, my beloved Moto X is now on it's way to El Paso, TX to be dissected and man-handled. I got a little tired of the gook in the microphone port and used compressed air to clean it out. Turns out this is a pretty dumb move to make :crying: I'd actually done it once before without incident, but this time it must have perforated something.
While I know this is my own dumb fault, I've *never* broken a phone before. I have a decent collection of completely scratch-free and 100% functional devices, I'm disappointed that this was fragile enough to be broken so easily. OK, yeah, it was probably the equivalent of hitting some Saran Wrap with a hurricane, but still disappointing.
My advice to everyone is to be extra careful with that particular awkwardly placed dirt-trapping hole in the front of your phone. I wasn't about to stick a pin in there, but my chosen alternative proved to be just as tragic. I have to assume that an equal amount of vacuum would also yield similar bad results. Not sure how we're supposed to clean this thing, or perhaps more importantly why it's designed in such a way that it would get so filthy in the first place.
*sigh*
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If there is a way, that might be something to send to Motorola for feedback. I'm sure they are really interested in getting feedback, being this is the first flagship Motorola/Google phone: Moto X.
That and the vibrator issues, and other mechanical/material/tooling issues should go there.
I like this phone and I think it has some good potential, but as a first release after an acquisition/rebranding, I'm sure that feedback will help make future devices better.
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If there is a way, that might be something to send to Motorola for feedback. I'm sure they are really interested in getting feedback, being this is the first flagship Motorola/Google phone: Moto X.
That and the vibrator issues, and other mechanical/material/tooling issues should go there.
I like this phone and I think it has some good potential, but as a first release after an acquisition/rebranding, I'm sure that feedback will help make future devices better.
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Totally, but let's wait 7-10 business days so they fix mine for free before we tell them I actually wrecked it on my own, ok? :highfive:
djp952 said:
Totally, but let's wait 7-10 business days so they fix mine for free before we tell them I actually wrecked it on my own, ok? :highfive:
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:fingers-crossed:
djp952 said:
Well, my beloved Moto X is now on it's way to El Paso, TX to be dissected and man-handled. I got a little tired of the gook in the microphone port and used compressed air to clean it out. Turns out this is a pretty dumb move to make :crying: I'd actually done it once before without incident, but this time it must have perforated something.
While I know this is my own dumb fault, I've *never* broken a phone before. I have a decent collection of completely scratch-free and 100% functional devices, I'm disappointed that this was fragile enough to be broken so easily. OK, yeah, it was probably the equivalent of hitting some Saran Wrap with a hurricane, but still disappointing.
My advice to everyone is to be extra careful with that particular awkwardly placed dirt-trapping hole in the front of your phone. I wasn't about to stick a pin in there, but my chosen alternative proved to be just as tragic. I have to assume that an equal amount of vacuum would also yield similar bad results. Not sure how we're supposed to clean this thing, or perhaps more importantly why it's designed in such a way that it would get so filthy in the first place.
*sigh*
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How do you know it perforated the mic? Also, did you stick the nozzle for the compressed air right on the mic hole?
there are the moto support forums. https://forums.motorola.com/hives/a440c30711/summary its the best way i know of to make suggestions/complaints etc. the forum manager forwards anything worthy over to the right people.
as far as the gunk. i would get a pin or needle, and a piece of tape. gently pull out the stuff and use tape to pick it up.
i also ruined a brand new iphone 4s with compressed air. trying to get the sand out of it. worse decision i ever made. but i managed to turn it back in and buy a gs2. one of those rare instances where a wrong does make a right.
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How do you know it perforated the mic? Also, did you stick the nozzle for the compressed air right on the mic hole?
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Can't be 100% certain, of course, but I noted that if it was placed near an extremely loud source it would start to barely register some sound pressure. I took that to mean a membrane of some kind got ruptured.
And yeah, that's exactly what I did; stubborn dirt was in there! It's quite honestly one of the absolute stupidest things I've done in a long time. :crying:
@phermey, I dunno about a pin, if there is indeed something that can be perforated/ruptured, that seems like a bad idea. The tape suggestion reminds me of that yellow goo they used to (still do?) sell for cleaning keyboards. Ever seen that? You smush it all around your keys and it sticks all the Dorito crumbs to it. Comes right off. I bet something like that would be ideal here if it's viscous enough to get into the hole at all.
I just hope it comes back fixed without any new damage from being disassembled. It was pristine! I'll contact Moto with what happened, but again, AFTER they fix it for free. I won't lie if they call me out on it, though
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Can't be 100% certain, of course, but I noted that if it was placed near an extremely loud source it would start to barely register some sound pressure. I took that to mean a membrane of some kind got ruptured.
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Can you expound on this? Are you using some sort of app to gauge the sound pressure or is it just simply not responding to voice commands or something?
What is everyone talking about stuff getting into the microphone? I don't see anything in mines. I have a white Moto X. Do I have to put a flashlight into to see if anything is in it or something?
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Can you expound on this? Are you using some sort of app to gauge the sound pressure or is it just simply not responding to voice commands or something?
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Putting some earplugs in, cranking up a speaker and putting the X right next to it would get the Google Voice Search to just *barely* register something as evidenced by the graphics it uses. A sound meter app (forget which one; sorry, but Android SensorBox is an old friend with this feature in it) would get up to about 10dB that way or close to 20dB if I shot more air at it point-blank. It was definitely shot to hell, but the underlying electronics still functioned if given enough "stimulus" Totally borked.
edit: 10dB-20dB is crazy quiet: http://home.earthlink.net/~dnitzer/4HaasEaton/Decibel.html
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Putting some earplugs in, cranking up a speaker and putting the X right next to it would get the Google Voice Search to just *barely* register something as evidenced by the graphics it uses. A sound meter app (forget which one; sorry, but Android SensorBox is an old friend with this feature in it) would get up to about 10dB that way or close to 20dB if I shot more air at it point-blank. It was definitely shot to hell, but the underlying electronics still functioned if given enough "stimulus" Totally borked.
edit: 10dB-20dB is crazy quiet:
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Hey mate, I know this is kinda old, but how this ended up?
I did EXACTLY the same, and ruined the microphone, but the not-that-bright side is that my warranty expired a month ago (Bloody hell).
Did you get a replacement for your microphone for a decent price?
Thanks in advance pal,
Cheers
Found this thread *after* I did the exact same thing.
Always been annoyed by the pocket lint/fuzz that gets in the microphone hole. Never cleaned it out. Wife brought home some compressed air for another purpose and I gave it a try. Red straw, held it 3-4" from phone, cleaned out the hole nicely. Wasn't until a couple hours later I realized no one could hear me. OK Google Now also didn't work.
Very stupid on my part, phone was flawless. Only upside is it was 2 years old.