What does 4g idle status mean ?? - Nexus S General

Sorry for shouting, but I'm getting no answers.
Does everyone here also get an idle 4G icon after a short amount of time ?
What does it mean ?
I was under the impression that it's a phone design to conserve battery life, as explained here
http://www.deepeshpradhan.com/nexus-s4g-is-just-better-and-faster-and-its-is-google-phone
But, when mine does idle, it doesn't fall back to 3G, it just remains off, effectively turning this into a dumb unit. No connection.Nothing.
I'm looking for people to prove me wrong and to tell me that when they are idle on 4G, they receive notification INSTANTLY on apps like google talk.
I'm not talking 3 minutes delayed until 4G kicks back in again, I'm talking instant messaging , as it should be.
If I'm proved wrong, I must have a defective unit, but if this is software related, then somethings amiss ????

I have not noticed this myself... but I have seen at least one other thread saying the same thing.
I'd rather take the battery drain.

grifforama said:
Sorry for shouting, but I'm getting no answers.
Does everyone here also get an idle 4G icon after a short amount of time ?
What does it mean ?
I was under the impression that it's a phone design to conserve battery life, as explained here
http://www.deepeshpradhan.com/nexus-s4g-is-just-better-and-faster-and-its-is-google-phone
But, when mine does idle, it doesn't fall back to 3G, it just remains off, effectively turning this into a dumb unit. No connection.Nothing.
I'm looking for people to prove me wrong and to tell me that when they are idle on 4G, they receive notification INSTANTLY on apps like google talk.
I'm not talking 3 minutes delayed until 4G kicks back in again, I'm talking instant messaging , as it should be.
If I'm proved wrong, I must have a defective unit, but if this is software related, then somethings amiss ????
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We have discussed this and when I told you that I get notifications even when 4g is idle you disagreed. Why start a new thread?

mikeyinid said:
We have discussed this and when I told you that I get notifications even when 4g is idle you disagreed. Why start a new thread?
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Because I don't believe you. I believe you must be getting a connection forced when you're having something polled. Or you get them when the icon goes back to green with bars. Not when it's grey with 3 dots. You cannot be. I've checked *#*#4636#*#* when it's idle, and there is simply NO connection.
Chec this for my evidence.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szE_qs5zNyg
If you have proof otherwise, then please share.
And also because there are multiple threads on many topics. I'm hoping that I catch someone's attention.
I have tested this many many times, and it simply does not work.
I'm sorry dude, but you cannot be getting anything when it's idle.

mikeyinid said:
We have discussed this and when I told you that I get notifications even when 4g is idle you disagreed. Why start a new thread?
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And I see you asked everyone on your twitter feed. Anyone respond ?

grifforama said:
And I see you asked everyone on your twitter feed. Anyone respond ?
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Yes, the responses are mixed. Ive been testing this for days and no matter what I always get notifications.
Im not arguing that your wrong, my argument is that I do get notifications when 4g is idle.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1142880
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1139471
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1132628
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1132439
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1136379
all in less then 7 days tho dude?
here is a video i just made showing my phone coming out of idle while 4g is on. the reason for the time difference is im in chicago and im guessing grifforama is on the east coast
4g idle test
from that article in the op:
When you call upon it to deliver super-speedy 4G internet, it kicks back on in a matter of seconds.
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well i know how i read that statement but thats not how mine works as seen in my video

hellcatt said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1142880
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1139471
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1132628
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1132439
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1136379
all in less then 7 days tho dude?
here is a video i just made showing my phone coming out of idle while 4g is on. the reason for the time difference is im in chicago and im guessing grifforama is on the east coast
4g idle test
from that article in the op:
well i know how i read that statement but thats not how mine works as seen in my video
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Appreciate the video, but I think you may have more stuff polling than just gmail. If you revert totally to stock, I promise you will find that idle does not come off for push notifications. I see you have a lot of stiff loaded on your phone. It could be that.
I'm returning my phone tomorrow and getting it replaced. I'll try again.

hellcatt said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1142880
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1139471
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1132628
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1132439
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1136379
all in less then 7 days tho dude?
here is a video i just made showing my phone coming out of idle while 4g is on. the reason for the time difference is im in chicago and im guessing grifforama is on the east coast
4g idle test
from that article in the op:
well i know how i read that statement but thats not how mine works as seen in my video
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Ok, do you think I may have a defective handset ? Could it be hardware related ?
I have literally just sent myself another email (at 08:22am) and my phone is sitting idle on my table at 08:29 with no email notification...
It's driving me mad. I literally cannot work like this (I rely on gtalk and gmail for my business)
If this is handset related, I can live with it if it fixes itself when I swap it out. If it's software related, I guess I'm screwed.
I just think that you guys have something that's polling regularly ??

Yet another example.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnQdOaP0sEg

Why don't you leave it on 3g? I can tell you that from my experience with the EVO, I could never leave 4G on because it'd knock down batterylife to about 6-8 hours.
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Award Tour said:
Why don't you leave it on 3g? I can tell you that from my experience with the EVO, I could never leave 4G on because it'd knock down batterylife to about 6-8 hours.
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thats because the evo leaves the connection on. this is the whole point of "idle", so everybody doesnt complain of battery on 4g. now we are faced with a different problem. the video is hard to argue with. lets bug sammy to come up with a solution. until then, those who are affected by this just go back to 3g?

rican408 said:
thats because the evo leaves the connection on. this is the whole point of "idle", so everybody doesnt complain of battery on 4g. now we are faced with a different problem. the video is hard to argue with. lets bug sammy to come up with a solution. until then, those who are affected by this just go back to 3g?
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Happy to leave it on 3G for now. Not happy to be paying $10 a month for premium data.

grifforama said:
Happy to leave it on 3G for now. Not happy to be paying $10 a month for premium data.
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i believe it has been confirmed that 10 bucks isnt for 4g, rather "cool phone tax"
best way to prove it would be to find out if any non 4g phones are paying the fee. again this is what i heard and i could be wrong.

grifforama said:
Appreciate the video, but I think you may have more stuff polling than just gmail. If you revert totally to stock, I promise you will find that idle does not come off for push notifications. I see you have a lot of stiff loaded on your phone. It could be that.
I'm returning my phone tomorrow and getting it replaced. I'll try again.
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just try another phone then. as far as i can tell i dont have anything else polling, the weather channel widget is the only active item i have.
im clearly not having the same issue as you and of the 5 people responding in this thread only one is having a problem. with 5 threads in 6 days i can tell you 2 things.
1. no one is going to be able to solve your problem if no one else is having iit or can replicate t.
2. no one is going to bother cuz of "oh its that guy again with his same problem" factor.
stop wasting time and go get a replacement before its to late.
try running the widget i got and see if it helps at all. if thats the reason i dont have the problem then i say the fix has been found.
again i refer you to the article you posted
When you call upon it to deliver super-speedy 4G internet, it kicks back on in a matter of seconds.
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read it out loud and makes sure youre clear on how it says its supposed to work

rican408 said:
i believe it has been confirmed that 10 bucks isnt for 4g, rather "cool phone tax"
best way to prove it would be to find out if any non 4g phones are paying the fee. again this is what i heard and i could be wrong.
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yea its on any smart phones 4g or not.

hellcatt said:
just try another phone then. as far as i can tell i dont have anything else polling, the weather channel widget is the only active item i have.
im clearly not having the same issue as you and of the 5 people responding in this thread only one is having a problem. with 5 threads in 6 days i can tell you 2 things.
1. no one is going to be able to solve your problem if no one else is having it.
2. no one is going to bother cuz of "oh its that guy again with his same problem" factor.
stop wasting time and go get a replacement before its to late.
try running the widget i got and see if it helps at all. if thats the reason i dont have the problem then i say the fix has been found.
again i refer you to the article you posted
read it out loud and makes sure youre clear on how it says its supposed to work
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Dude, stop being a dufus.
It's supposed to kick back in in a matter of seconds.
It isn't, clearly as my video shows.
You have a weather widget which probably polls, plus god knows how many other widgets and apps pulling in stuff every few seconds.
I have stock, with no apps apart from a clock on the home screen.
I will be swapp[ing the phone out tomorrow. I will then do the same tests with stock software out of the box,and see what happens when it idles.
I will come back here and let you know what happens. I will humbly apologise for wasting time if it's seen to be a hardware thing, but for now I will hold judgment.
No need to get snarky.

griff under accounts and sync................do you have background data on?
i know it seems a stupid question but maybe an over sight
not gettin ****in snarky dude tryin to help, but what ever i could care less if you even a have a phone. it says
When YOUcall upon it to deliver super-speedy 4G internet, it kicks back on in a matter of seconds.
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IT IS KICKING BACK ON IN A MATTER OF SECONDS AS MINE CLEARLY SHOWS
TRY DOING SOMETHING DIFFERENT ALREADY AND GOOD LUCK
DUUUUUUUUUUUUUDE

hellcatt said:
griff under accounts and sync................do you have background data on?
i know it seems a stupid question but maybe an over sight
not gettin ****in snarky dude tryin to help, but what ever i could care less if you even a have a phone. it says
IT IS KICKING BACK ON IN A MATTER OF SECONDS AS MINE CLEARLY SHOWS
TRY DOING SOMETHING DIFFERENT ALREADY AND GOOD LUCK
DUUUUUUUUUUUUUDE
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Of course I do.
As you saw in my video. I switch to 3G and mails get sent.
I will update when I get a new phone.

By new phone you mean EVO 3D?
grifforama said:
Of course I do.
As you saw in my video. I switch to 3G and mails get sent.
I will update when I get a new phone.
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God I hate my HD2

I'm sorry if theres been a million of these posts but i seriously regret buying one and now its too late to send it back because its taken me over a month to realise how bad it really is.
Now dont get me wrong, its an amazing piece of kit but its horribly let down by terrible software.
Main features rarely work, Everyone is aware of the LAGGY text problem the terrible text input software, the fact that it loses data connection all the time and has to be restarted to work again, When i come out of standby alot it doesn't work and the buttons light up and i have to take the battery out.
The phone is unresponsive and laggy alot to name but a few.
Its driving me insane, i want to get rid of it but i cant, i'd sell it on but my girlfriend dropped it and scratched it devaluing it and TBH, i'd feel bad selling it to someone knowing how bad it is.
send it back to htc for repair. that **** don't happen with mine!!!!
beyondthought said:
send it back to htc for repair. that **** don't happen with mine!!!!
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indeed, only had mine around a fortnight but i havent had any real issues with the phone...not even the camera bugs that were supposed to be wrong with it...all my texts go through straight away same with emails n what not
think these devices are very hit n miss you either get a decent one or a sucky one
appears you got the latter, send it to htc, tell them you want a working version of the phone!
Yeah, send it back to HTC for servicing, it sounds like a **** batch
Tell me this, did you get your phone expecting the best thing ever, and it sort of was until these problems came about but you thought you would hold out for a fix/fixes. Still waiting out you lost your patience and want something that simply WORKS?
I'd agree with what people are saying, sending it back because really, it shouldn't be so unusable. Give them a sharp angry tone, it might quicken up the fixes release for the rest of us!
Megacamz said:
my girlfriend dropped it
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Mmm, I wonder what the problem could be?
paulking said:
indeed, only had mine around a fortnight but i havent had any real issues with the phone...not even the camera bugs that were supposed to be wrong with it...all my texts go through straight away same with emails n what not
think these devices are very hit n miss you either get a decent one or a sucky one
appears you got the latter, send it to htc, tell them you want a working version of the phone!
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just as i post this i try sending a text to another phone 5 inches from the hd2 and 20 minutes later...no message DOH!
paulking said:
just as i post this i try sending a text to another phone 5 inches from the hd2 and 20 minutes later...no message DOH!
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lol - that could have been any number of things, couldn't it. The least likely is your phone!
Anyway, you do know that it doesn't send the text directly to the phone don't you? It doesn't mean it'll get there quicker if they're right next to each other
Megacamz said:
the fact that it loses data connection all the time and has to be restarted to work again
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Like most of the people here I have not had a single problem with the device. I did however have to loosing connection but that was easily fixed because of a discrepancy between what the htc wizard set up as my internet connection and that which it really was. I'm on the dutch KPN network and instead of the portal being "portalmmm.nl" it should be "internet". No problem since.
Megacamz said:
Now dont get me wrong, its an amazing piece of kit but its horribly let down by terrible software.
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my thoughts exactly !!!
snipey said:
Like most of the people here I have not had a single problem with the device.
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me either... these threads are seriously getting old quite quickly.
johncmolyneux said:
lol - that could have been any number of things, couldn't it. The least likely is your phone!
Anyway, you do know that it doesn't send the text directly to the phone don't you? It doesn't mean it'll get there quicker if they're right next to each other
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yeah, i know, would expect an sms to be sent within 20minutes though!
was saying they're right next to eachother so i wasnt waiting for a reply from someone i would know exactly when the text came through.
i sent a text to my boss yesterday and i havent been sacked so im guess ing that one didnt go through either
Yeah well, When i say she dropped it, it was from 2ft and the phone would have been fine normally but it hit a stone with scratched it.
I had these problems before anyhow and i was waiting as someone said...for updates to fix it, there have been many updates with no fixes and any fixes i do get are user created ones!
I had an Iphone previously which worked fine and was a bit slow at times i didnt expect the HD2 to be the best thing ever but i expected it to be quicker than my iPhone, i couldnt foresee the problems the HD2 would have as ive had HTC's in the past with no problems and i rate the company very highly.
I'm just so dissapointed.
I got the mobile through Mobilephones direct with T-mobile contract, who do i get in contact with? Mobilephones direct? T-mobile or HTC?
paulking said:
yeah, i know, would expect an sms to be sent within 20minutes though!
was saying they're right next to eachother so i wasnt waiting for a reply from someone i would know exactly when the text came through.
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I was just pulling your leg mate
Megacamz said:
Yeah well, When i say she dropped it, it was from 2ft and the phone would have been fine normally but it hit a stone with scratched it.
I had these problems before anyhow and i was waiting as someone said...for updates to fix it, there have been many updates with no fixes and any fixes i do get are user created ones!
I had an Iphone previously which worked fine and was a bit slow at times i didnt expect the HD2 to be the best thing ever but i expected it to be quicker than my iPhone, i couldnt foresee the problems the HD2 would have as ive had HTC's in the past with no problems and i rate the company very highly.
I'm just so dissapointed.
I got the mobile through Mobilephones direct with T-mobile contract, who do i get in contact with? Mobilephones direct? T-mobile or HTC?
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htc most likely. the other won't do much after a month
Wow, I read about these experiences that people have and feel very lucky to have a rock solid HD2 in my hands...
To the OP: I presume you've hard reset the phone/installed newer ROMS?
NZtechfreak said:
Wow, I read about these experiences that people have and feel very lucky to have a rock solid HD2 in my hands...
To the OP: I presume you've hard reset the phone/installed newer ROMS?
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Yeah man, factory reset's, updated the rom, tried all versions and still get same problems.
I'm another person who's had no problem with the device - and I am quite demanding. I have not made any changes to the device as delivered other than registry tweaks. I did run the HTC official quick-fixes, found they caused chaos and assiduously removed them all. All the software I've installed has been well-tried commercial stuff.
The only unusual thing I have to do is to disconnect data services before I go to bed, otherwise it won't sync with MyPhone...
i experience kinda the same problems, laggy texting or even no texting at all until restart, data connection dropping and again needing restart...
but still most of the times it works great, better than any previous phone i had. despite these little annoyances i still say i love my hd2 and wouldnt trade it for any iToy.
hd2 issue..tg01
i have the tg01 and i love it..i was having issue with the phone as well and discovered that if you install certain programs to the sd card it makes the phone laggy..and have to reboot....i had the spb shell 3.5 and i installed it on the sd card and it was laggy and the 3d accelerator didnt work..so i uninstalled and installed it on the phone and ...now the phone is very stable..havent had any issue...food for thought...

I miss mah hero!!! :(

I'm so close to running this moment over with a truck and getting a Hero. THIS PHONE SUCKS
gunnyman said:
I'm so close to running this moment over with a truck and getting a Hero. THIS PHONE SUCKS
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Hey, we won't tell anyone if it happens to fall in-front of that truck tire...
What don't you like about the Moment? I've heard good things...with exception to the horrible placement of the space bar on the physical keyboard.
gunnyman said:
I'm so close to running this moment over with a truck and getting a Hero. THIS PHONE SUCKS
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Please, Please, Please make a thread about how you want to purposely brick your moment so you can make the switch.
I love love love! watching the brick police come in and throw hissy fit temper tantrums claiming you're ruining modern society by making false phone insurance claims.
When man has bricked the last cell phone only then will we realize we cannot eat refurbs
Well, if you decide to break it, please think up something creative and video it for us to see. Do something cool like the guy who got angry at his lawn mower and shot it in public with a shotgun. Please
I just my hero in February and I want to get the Evo. My phone is prestine I have the invisible shield on it and the otter box shield on it and its rooted also running the 2.08 Damagecontrol Rom. What would be a good price to sale it for. I was offered 85.00. I feel that's to low.
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I hear thermite bricks phone pretty easily.
My main problem with the moment is this: Radom Airplane mode and EVDO lockups for no apparent reason. Only way to fix is to reboot the phone. Other than that the thing ways a freakin ton. I like the keyboard and the AMOLED screen though. Also, I miss you guys and installing a new ROM or theme every day
gunnyman said:
My main problem with the moment is this: Radom Airplane mode and EVDO lockups for no apparent reason. Only way to fix is to reboot the phone. Other than that the thing ways a freakin ton. I like the keyboard and the AMOLED screen though. Also, I miss you guys and installing a new ROM or theme every day
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yeah my buddy just got the moment the other day, had it for less than a day and it was stuck in airplane mode lol if you have insurance then just tell them you lost it???
Gunny, do you not have 30 days to return it?
(rant)this is why I posted a straight trade for my hero from that buggy ass hardware in the moment...some sucker took the bait and did a trade for that pos..
been loving my hero ever since..things to hate about the moment..no matter what rooted rom you use that phone always locks up into airplane mode or random reboots..samsung should be ashamed of that phone they put the android name on
if you blow the phone up or anything make sure you youtube it and post a link..my buddy is going to make a video of what a moment looks like after getting blown up by a 50 caliber round by his service spier riffle at 300 meters....it will be an epic video lol.well when he gets back state side...almost makes me want to buy another moment just to annihilate one...that phone pissed me off so bad...(/end rant)
I'm so close to running this moment over with a truck and getting a Hero. THIS PHONE SUCKS
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nebenezer said:
Gunny, do you not have 30 days to return it?
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since it was a replacement, I don't know. I'm ching into my options today.
microfire21 said:
my buddy is going to make a video of what a moment looks like after getting blown up by a 50 caliber round by his service spier riffle at 300 meters....it will be an epic video lol
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There will be nothing left to video. I wonder if the tiny bits and pieces will even be identifiable as a Samsung Moment..
Hell they been doing trades on Craigslist for those for the last couple months if you lived near I'd give you my girlfriends. Don't know why but she wants one. Good luck.
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Hell yes it does
The Moment really sucks. Check the Sprint community forums at their official website, there's a known issue with the Moment experiencing fake-airplane/CDMA modem lock ups. The only way to get the connection back when it happens is to shut the phone down and turn it back on. I went through six Moments. The last time I swapped it, I just hung out at the bookstore next door until the data connection would break, then take it back over there so they could vainly try to fix it, then replace it with another Moment; rinse and repeat until they finally agreed to give me a Hero like I asked when I first walked into the store. When I went in last time, they said that if I had came in in May, and not June (the third in this case), they could've swapped it then with the hero (said something about swapping for a different device if there are so many swaps within a 6 month period). PITFA.
Anyway, I have my Hero now, and it works wonderfully, and has way better battery life than the moment. -AND- multitouch works on the Hero, which it won't on the Moment, even with the 2.1 update... I'm never buying Samsung ever again.
yeah you should definitely just go back to the Hero
Found someone who wants to trade back to the Hero for me
Found someone who wants to trade back to the Hero for me
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microfire21 said:
if you blow the phone up or anything make sure you youtube it and post a link..my buddy is going to make a video of what a moment looks like after getting blown up by a 50 caliber round by his service spier riffle at 300 meters....it will be an epic video lol.well when he gets back state side.
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only 300 meters? better be open sights

Pass the word to sprint that we are unhappy!

I made a nice call to *2 this evening, talked to a nice rep and kindly asked them to pass the word along to whoever they can that we are very unhappy with the FPS cap and quality of the evo. I wasn't complaining to them, just asked them to push it up the channels so maybe sprint will put some pressure on HTC to make things right.
If we all do the same, maybe sprint will get the message.
LOL, you spoke to a front line rep? Good luck with that.
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LOL, you spoke to a front line rep? Good luck with that.
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one person isn't going to make a difference, but if more people call in then someone is going to notice. Even if I did talk to the garbage disposal.
am pretty happy with my evo but the cap sucks tho lol
I just ended up returning my device. Not sure if I should let them know why though.
I just ended up returning my device. Not sure if I should let them know why though.
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How does the return process work, assuming you bought it from Sprint
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How does the return process work, assuming you bought it from Sprint
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I actually bought it from Wirefly. I just had to get an RA number within 14 days of activating it then I had to ship it back with all the original packaging.
Then I spoke with Sprint chat to put a note on my account to revert me back to my old plan and old contract.
What cap are you guys referring to, and what's so wrong with the EVO? I'm loving mine!
I might call if I was unhappy with the EVO... as it stands though, I love this phone, so no reason to complain here.
mrono said:
I made a nice call to *2 this evening, talked to a nice rep and kindly asked them to pass the word along to whoever they can that we are very unhappy with the FPS cap and quality of the evo. I wasn't complaining to them, just asked them to push it up the channels so maybe sprint will put some pressure on HTC to make things right.
If we all do the same, maybe sprint will get the message.
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There should be an effective way to communicate with HTC on its issues. Even their forums don't seem all that effective, I'd like to see some official response from HTC as well:
Popular discussions & Product Support:
http://community.htc.com/na/htc-forums/android/f/94.aspx?tab=support&Sort=Active&PageIndex=1
http://www.htc.com/us/products/evo-sprint?view=1-1&sort=0
http://www.htc.com/us/support/evo-sprint/help/
I played with an EVO for another couple hours the other day but don't feel compelled to buy one until 2.2 & Wi-Fi fix etc..& if they don't respond to market pressures it will only make the iPhone 4 seem more worth the compromise of Apple's constraints..
Ideas on more effective communication with HTC, what say you..?
they still arent gonna do anything
I'd beg to differ, I was one of many who were suckered in to buying an Instinct. It was probably the most hyped, worst phone ever (iphone killer?). They made a number of updates for several months after release. I'm sure we'll see a few fixes.
What's wrong with the WiFi? I use mine all day, every day.
@op: Who's unhappy?
Every time a new phone comes out there is always a small group exclaiming loudly about how this or that needs to be fixed or it's a dealbreaker. Honestly, if someone had not reported the video cap 99% of users would never have noticed. All electronics have issues and won't be perfect. For those of you expecting everything that you buy to be perfect, I suggest you wake up and smell the coffee. It's not gonna happen. Go ahead a do a Google search. Every major phone release, from iPhones to Droids to WinMos to WebOSes, have all had issues. No amount of belly-aching from anyone is going fix it. It's just the nature of manufacturing.
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Kiraly said:
What's wrong with the WiFi? I use mine all day, every day.
@op: Who's unhappy?
Every time a new phone comes out there is always a small group exclaiming loudly about how this or that needs to be fixed or it's a dealbreaker. Honestly, if someone had not reported the video cap 99% of users would never have noticed. All electronics have issues and won't be perfect. For those of you expecting everything that you buy to be perfect, I suggest you wake up and smell the coffee. It's not gonna happen. Go ahead a do a Google search. Every major phone release, from iPhones to Droids to WinMos to WebOSes, have all had issues. No amount of belly-aching from anyone is going fix it. It's just the nature of manufacturing.
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Get out here please.
Any ****ing user can tell. Put an iphone and a htc evo 4g next to each other. Start scrolling on the home page, in a web browser... they will all think the iPhone is faster.
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I'd beg to differ, I was one of many who were suckered in to buying an Instinct. It was probably the most hyped, worst phone ever (iphone killer?). They made a number of updates for several months after release. I'm sure we'll see a few fixes.
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Oh good god please don't bring up that phone!
the cap thing does suck but bottom line is this is the best phone i have ever had.. having a fps cap isnt enough to get me to return my phone, i was happy with my phone before i heard of the cap so im not going to change how i feel about it now.. when i read all of the comments about ppl returning their phone because of the cap i honestly think they are returning it for other reasons and just using the cap as an excuse cause honestly i cant think of a better phone that sprint has at the moment... i read someone was claiming to boycott htc is they didnt fix that cap, that comment made me laugh!
What's wrong with the WiFi? I use mine all day, every day.
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Get out here please.
Any ****ing user can tell. Put an iphone and a htc evo 4g next to each other. Start scrolling on the home page, in a web browser... they will all think the iPhone is faster.
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Awesome, since you already know what any ****ing user will think, they won't have to bother themselves with deciding on a phone. They can just let you tell them what they will like.
Go buy an iPhone if you think it's so much better.
Kiraly said:
What's wrong with the WiFi? I use mine all day, every day.
@op: Who's unhappy?
Every time a new phone comes out there is always a small group exclaiming loudly about how this or that needs to be fixed or it's a dealbreaker. Honestly, if someone had not reported the video cap 99% of users would never have noticed. All electronics have issues and won't be perfect. For those of you expecting everything that you buy to be perfect, I suggest you wake up and smell the coffee. It's not gonna happen. Go ahead a do a Google search. Every major phone release, from iPhones to Droids to WinMos to WebOSes, have all had issues. No amount of belly-aching from anyone is going fix it. It's just the nature of manufacturing.
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http://community.htc.com/na/htc-forums/android/f/94/t/2929.aspx
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=699459
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=700678
Thanks for links....I guess my point was that WiFi works. People are complaining, but for most, WiFi works just fine. I use mine all over my house and my router is in my basement. I even get a connection outside my house. My signal bars don't show me a thing but it's still connected and fast. Some may have WiFi issues but they aren't Toyota recall type issues.

please close thread!

im done trying to help people that are ungrateful and trolls. thank you for the kind words in this thread, i am not closing it because of you.
Agreed
I definitely agree with your statements. The only thing is my signal bounces around even while on an Airave or Airavana. I verified it was not the Airavana or airave because my wifes Evo always has a consistent signal.
ryandoubleu said:
I definitely agree with your statements. The only thing is my signal bounces around even while on an Airave or Airavana. I verified it was not the Airavana or airave because my wifes Evo always has a consistent signal.
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see mine still gets slow data but i have perfect 4 bars with my airrave. outside of that the signal is in and out all day long.
sent
I emailed a link of your video to all the sprint executive email addresses. Lets see if anything happens.....
ryandoubleu said:
I emailed a link of your video to all the sprint executive email addresses. Lets see if anything happens.....
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thanks for that!
ryandoubleu said:
I emailed a link of your video to all the sprint executive email addresses. Lets see if anything happens.....
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Did you send it to Google? It's their phone...
And to the OP: I'm sorry you're having issues. I'm not experiencing any of those issues.
Well said. I'm new to the whole Android experience,
but am no stranger to expecting quality out of my investments. I'll continue to try to help the cause with you, seeing as how I'm going to have to get along with this phone for the next two years, being a college student and all. I, for one, appreciate you being outspoken about it, as silence has rarely solves anything.
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Thanks... bbl
I'm with you a 100%. I tried to ingore the reception issues and put my faith in a ota. But the fact is my 30 day clock is coming ahead. I'm thinking about exchanging to motorola xoom tablet and call it a day. I love my nexus s 4g, it a phone I can keep for a 12 months or more and that's rare for me.
I'm calling sprint soon for a exchange my 1st.
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I'm gonna tweet this to google nexus.
update: just tweeted the vid to google and told em that I'm gonna take it back if nothing is addressed before my 30 days are up. even if it's samsung/sprint's issue, its still google's product and i know google can sway BOTH companies if they wanted to. I REALLY REALLY don't wanna jump to the EVO 3D!!!
great video man. I'm glad that someone is deciding to step up about this. I purchased the phone just this evening and I'm already noticing that the radio is a little iffy. Not to mention I haven't been able to send a single text message since the damn thing was activated! (i'm hoping that that is a seperate issue that will be resolved with time)
WE CANNOT KEEP QUIET ABOUT THIS
I'm going to post this video on nexus s facebook and google also
Fixxxer, I've seen you on the forums being outspoken about this issue and I'm with you 100%. My wifi and 3g signals are atrocious. Constantly losing signals or very weak signals comparable to EDGE speeds.
Google has dropped the ball on this in my opinion. It is Google's phone and their name and reputation stands behind it and for them to not offer some sort of official statement acknowledging the widespread issue people are having (and no, not some random Google employee on their forum saying it is being looked into) is a disservice to the customers that support them.
One thing I cannot fault is people being brand loyal to Apple and their iPhone because they get 1st class service and immediate official responses while Nexus adopters have no clue who to contact for answers. Sprint and Samsung are clueless and only advice is to return it for an exchange or send you an airave.
Google, it is your phone. Do something about it!
thanks for the kind words guys. it's a shame there are still a few out there that seem to want us to just keep quiet about this. maybe they are afraid it will ruin the rep of the nexus s? look what the evo3d users got after being very vocal to htc.
as ive said before they have made no public announcements of a fix, anything you read on a forum about a fix unless from a credible source is BS.
It makes me sad you guys are having issues with this awesome phone.
I really hope it can be fixed. What I don't understand is that my GSM Nexus S seems to have an amazing antenna, and gets service where other T-Mobile phones don't.
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i got a response back from samsung about my youtube video... they claim they are unaware of the issue and that they want me to send them my phone for testing. samsung is totally clueless to our problems people. we need to push harder here.
i guess we just don't have the fanbase the evo line has. i give htc props for responding to the mass yesterday. at least they will get what they demanded.
well i was hoping my video would make a dent but it's not so far. the sprint forums has pretty much died off to a stand still right now. im not sure what else i can do for us? maybe it's just time to throw in the towel and exchange for another phone.
im open to ideas guys.
things..
things usually take longer than over night to become wide spread
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well i was hoping my video would make a dent but it's not so far. the sprint forums has pretty much died off to a stand still right now. im not sure what else i can do for us? maybe it's just time to throw in the towel and exchange for another phone.
im open to ideas guys.
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I think it is Google you need to be communicating with about it, since it is a Nexus phone.
Google did mention they were going to do some testing:
http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Google+Mobile/thread?tid=72cde4a29b9021c3&hl=en
I don't think there is going to be a quick fix, it is going to take time for a software update to roll out.
seezar said:
I think it is Google you need to be communicating with about it, since it is a Nexus phone.
Google did mention they were going to do some testing:
http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Google+Mobile/thread?tid=72cde4a29b9021c3&hl=en
I don't think there is going to be a quick fix, it is going to take time for a software update to roll out.
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samsung already sent me an email this morning, they are unaware of these mass issues. they are the ones who write the radios, not google.
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things usually take longer than over night to become wide spread
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lol it is widespread already.
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samsung already sent me an email this morning, they are unaware of these mass issues. they are the ones who write the radios, not google.
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But it is a Google supported phone, yes it seems to have something to do with the radios but it could very well be with how the Android OS is interacting with them. It would make sense to start with Google and then Google do their testing and go to Samsung if needed.

Nexus S4G Keeping it!

I got this phone on launch. Had the EVO and Hero previously. Had to return one, my fault for partitioning and not backing up before hand.
Running CM7 stock kernel and I am not looking back. It's faster, lighter and the screen is just amazing. I would like to have an LED notifier and HDMI out but I can deal with that.
Anyone in the same boat wondering if you should switch, do it! You will not regret it.
Cheers.
nope got rid of mine on saturday. got an evo until the 3d or galaxy s 2 comes. too many radio issues.
wild1z said:
I got this phone on launch. Had the EVO and Hero previously. Had to return one, my fault for partitioning and not backing up before hand.
Running CM7 stock kernel and I am not looking back. It's faster, lighter and the screen is just amazing. I would like to have an LED notifier and HDMI out but I can deal with that.
Anyone in the same boat wondering if you should switch, do it! You will not regret it.
Cheers.
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Hey, another Minnesotan! Which part do you live in? Around/near the Cities? How's your reception? I live up by Plymouth/Maple Grove and go down the western suburbs all the time. My signal is VERY spotty. I wanna compare to see if maybe exchanging might help.
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nope got rid of mine on saturday. got an evo until the 3d or galaxy s 2 comes. too many radio issues.
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...Can you please go away yet? We all know you don't like the Nexus. You've posted it 3493 times. You're spamming.
gmap516 said:
Hey, another Minnesotan! Which part do you live in? Around/near the Cities? How's your reception? I live up by Plymouth/Maple Grove and go down the western suburbs all the time. My signal is VERY spotty. I wanna compare to see if maybe exchanging might help.
...Can you please go away yet? We all know you don't like the Nexus. You've posted it 3493 times. You're spamming.
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why should i go away? i never said i didn't like it. im not like some of you that stick to a defective device. if you think i was the only one complaining i suggest you do a google search. best buy told me flat out they have had a ton of nexus returns lately. what does that tell you?
you sure don't see me going round telling you guys to return it. so enjoy and stop trying 'failing" to flame!
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why should i go away? i never said i didn't like it. im not like some of you that stick to a defective device. if you think i was the only one complaining i suggest you do a google search. best buy told me flat out they have had a ton of nexus returns lately. what does that tell you?
you sure don't see me going round telling you guys to return it. so enjoy and stop trying 'failing" to flame!
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Very few products launch with zero glitches. It always takes a few months before everything gets ironed out. Even the all mighty iPhone suffers from this. Besides in my area the service is identical to my other sprint android phone, the epic. Its almost certainly a flawed prl as it seems to only effect certain people in certain areas and will surely be fixed.
You cant always expect perfection when being an early adopter.
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nope got rid of mine on saturday. got an evo until the 3d or galaxy s 2 comes. too many radio issues.
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My second one works perfectly now. Radios are good and will only get better. Good luck fixxer, you will find a phone.
gmap516 said:
Hey, another Minnesotan! Which part do you live in? Around/near the Cities? How's your reception? I live up by Plymouth/Maple Grove and go down the western suburbs all the time. My signal is VERY spotty. I wanna compare to see if maybe exchanging might help.
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I live in the south metro in a no sprint zone. I get one or 2 4g bars. It is identical to the EVO though, at least in my case. The Hero was also the same. When they recalibrate the towers up in Outing I will be golden.
Not you again.
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I made my mind up and I'm keeping my Nexus S. I love it
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wild1z said:
I live in the south metro in a no sprint zone. I get one or 2 4g bars. It is identical to the EVO though, at least in my case. The Hero was also the same. When they recalibrate the towers up in Outing I will be golden.
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It doesn't matter where I am in the Metro, I'm getting spotty signal. Do you think I should switch it out? This one is actually my second, as the first one couldn't stay on 4G even in coverage areas. In the best buy in Ridgedale it would get signal and drop before the sales rep could even walk it out of the store, so he exchanged it for me. Maybe I'll have luck the third time.
wild1z said:
I live in the south metro in a no sprint zone. I get one or 2 4g bars. It is identical to the EVO though, at least in my case. The Hero was also the same. When they recalibrate the towers up in Outing I will be golden.
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im in victoria MN no 4g for me
Fixx: So did you just switch your phone again? Is that 2 or 3 nexus phones now?
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why should i go away? i never said i didn't like it. im not like some of you that stick to a defective device. if you think i was the only one complaining i suggest you do a google search. best buy told me flat out they have had a ton of nexus returns lately. what does that tell you?
you sure don't see me going round telling you guys to return it. so enjoy and stop trying 'failing" to flame!
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I haven't had any problems with mine. Everything so far has been awesome! Sucks to be you fix
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I love the phone, but I'm on my second one and still having radio issues. I can't hold a wifi signal unless I'm right in front of the router and 3G signal is low and fluctuates like crazy. I'm going back to an Evo tomorrow since BB has them for $50 so the extra loot in my pocket won't hurt either.
I got a second one because it's really a killer phone, but I'm afraid I'm gonna be stuck with a crappy radio for months and I'm not willing to do that.
waltah! said:
I love the phone, but I'm on my second one and still having radio issues. I can't hold a wifi signal unless I'm right in front of the router and 3G signal is low and fluctuates like crazy. I'm going back to an Evo tomorrow since BB has them for $50 so the extra loot in my pocket won't hurt either.
I got a second one because it's really a killer phone, but I'm afraid I'm gonna be stuck with a crappy radio for months and I'm not willing to do that.
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Have you tried doing a PRL update. I did that along with flashing decks rom and I have awesome wifi and 3G better than my Evo or epic
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I'll be keeping mine
You're a fool if you think the EVO 3D wont have problems.
cor4twenty said:
Have you tried doing a PRL update. I did that along with flashing decks rom and I have awesome wifi and 3G better than my Evo or epic
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I have done PRL updates and it didn't seem to make a difference. I know this is xda, but I don't think I should have to flash roms for the phone to work (although I really appreciate the devs and members here a ton).
Data speeds are better on the EVO 4G sitting next to my NS4G on every speedtest available including the Speakeasy website. When I go to the other room I can't hold a solid wifi signal and the EVO works great even on another floor. I know the EVO GB update has a couple of bugs, but I feel that they will be taken care of quickly by HTC and Sprint.
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why should i go away? i never said i didn't like it. im not like some of you that stick to a defective device. if you think i was the only one complaining i suggest you do a google search. best buy told me flat out they have had a ton of nexus returns lately. what does that tell you?
you sure don't see me going round telling you guys to return it. so enjoy and stop trying 'failing" to flame!
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I'm not flaming or trolling fix. I do have an honest question that isn't meant to try and piss you off. Since your not liking this phone and deciding to return it, how come you still hang around in this section and contribute to discussions? I could guess why all day but I thought I'd just ask. Like I said, i'm not trying to start anything with you, I was just wondering.
About the topic now. At first, I was very leery of getting burned again by samsung. I read the reviews and played with one briefly at bb and wasn't impressed. I was, when I bought it, I was experiencing my usual impulsive buying itch. I tried 4g the same day and was very disappointed with the results.
Through time, it started to grow on me. I liked the unbranded and lack of bloat and spyware and vanilla ui experience. I thought lacking a notification led would suck big time until I ran across noled. The speaker is a little quiet but a little boost from voodoo sound and volume+ helped. Yeah the radios are kinda deaf but in waiting for maybe a patch for that some time soon. I thought that having a limited video camera resolution would suck until I used it and saw it wasn't low framerate blurry vision like all my other phones. People said it takes forever to charge. Imo, nothing was as slow to charge than the epic. Charging isn't really slow either.
Most of the reported negatives, before I bought it, I have found solutions or work arounds. There's a few things that need to be taken care of with future patches, but it's nice to have the latest and most up to date and pretty stable os around. For the first time, i'm not anxiously waiting for the new evo. Mainly because I don't like sense and I'm spoiled with getting the updates before the other phones.

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