Hi,
I was reading the androidpolice article on rooting here, and I'm confused on the references to internal memory vs. rooting.
Move installed applications to SD card
Moving and storing apps on internal memory can significantly slow your device down. If you root, you can avoid that completely.
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I vaguely remember reading that Android phones have "internal" memory (built-in) and SD memory (via micro-SD slot). But our tablets, at least the Transformer, doesn't have "internal" memory...the 16GB or 32GB built in memory shows up as SD_Card, while the micro SD card shows up a "removable".
Is that right?
So the quoted text from AndroidPolice is no longer relevant for our tablets, since the 16GB of built-in Transformer memory is really just as fast as most micro-SD cards you might put in the slot? I'm assuming that the "internal" memory on android phones are slower than the microSD card slot access?
Thanks!
This is referring to a physical SD card and has more of a place in previous versions of android since, on those, it was built around internal memory and SD supplement being standard.
In Honeycomb the SD CARD is just the primary extended memory of the tablet. You cant really move apps to SD (maybe rooted) on Honeycomb because its assumed that you have sufficient internal memory.
The physical SD cards are handled differently in Honeycomb. Its "removable" to differentiate it from the extended memory internal to the tablet. I can see where its confusing since we basically have 16gb and 13gb are allocated as as this "SD card." I would assume this will all be cleared up in Ice Cream Sandwich. The labeling is just a holdover from previous versions of android, on which honeycomb is based.
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So I'm a tad confused... so allow for this question please. The GSM counterparts of the galaxy s had 8-16gb of internal memory thanks to internal SDcards - the Samsung Fascinate and I believe its the same with any cdma versions use 2gb of internal storage. There was a forum post I read somewhere that there was a rumor that this was because it was NAND flash memory and not an internal memory card. However, theres obviously a 'lag fix' for the fascinate and the only reason we would need a lag fix (afaik) is if it were infact still an internal SDcard running the slower samsung partition and not ext3 or 4. If this is the case, why was the internal memory limited to 2gb instead of 8gb? Any answers would be greatly appreciated and thank you for your time to answer, in advance.
I would also like to know if this "internal" memory is up-gradable. If it is a removeable SD card, can we replace with a larger one? For file sharing and things of that nature my Fascinate is harder to deal with than my friends Vibrants. They can transfer a movie lets say from their SD card to their phone, and then transfer to my SD card. I cannot obviously do this due to the lack of phone memory. I have tried to take mine apart to see if there is an internal memory card, but was afraid to dig any deeper into the hardware. Once the screws were removed the phone was not cooperating with the dissassembly. I didn't want to start forcing stuff and break something. Any ideas??
there is not a removable SD card of any type inside your phone. No manufacturer would sacrifice the internal space or spend the money to include an internal card slot.
There are however cases where some manufacturers have chosen to utilize an SD memory chip soldered to the board. You can bet this is done for cost reasons.
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Hi - I'm in the market for the Droid 2 (Global) and have a question after reading a great deal about it. It comes with an 8GB SD memory card. In the section of the manual that talks about putting the phone together (battery, etc), it mentions a slot for an SD memory card. Since there isn't an 8GB card in that slot, it makes me believe I can put another card in there. Is that true? I'd like to use this phone for movies and music while on planes but 8GB isn't really enough except for music.
Thanks in advance.
OracleBlue said:
Hi - I'm in the market for the Droid 2 (Global) and have a question after reading a great deal about it. It comes with an 8GB SD memory card. In the section of the manual that talks about putting the phone together (battery, etc), it mentions a slot for an SD memory card. Since there isn't an 8GB card in that slot, it makes me believe I can put another card in there. Is that true? I'd like to use this phone for movies and music while on planes but 8GB isn't really enough except for music.
Thanks in advance.
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As far as I know (I have the Droid 2 [not global]) and there is only one SD card slot. The 8GB sdcard that comes with it uses that one up. That sdcard slot will allow for up to a 32GB sdcard for storage, though. So if you were to purchase a 32GB or 16GB micro SD card you could get the storage you want.
Hi, when I long press the home button and choose Task manager->Storage, I see System storage (out of 1.97GB), USB storage (out of 11.07GB) and SD card (out of 14.83GB). The SD card is probably my sandisk 16GB sd card. What about USB storage? I suppose the System storage is the internal memory. Also, from an end user point of view, is the new SanDisk Extreme Pro as fast as the internal memory? Is it worth to buy it? Thanks.
The phone is manufactured with 16 GB of flash on it.
2 GB for the ROM
2 GB for apps
The rest (11.07 GB) as general storage
Then it has a MicroSD slot where you can add more storage.
The speed of the internal storage should be good, but I don't know how it is compared to a Sandisk extreme pro card.
I asked SanDisk. They said that they do not know if the Extreme Pro is compatible with the Galaxy Note. They told me to ask Samsung. Of course, Samsung is going to point back to SanDisk.
I'm just trying to get a feel for how Samsung treats storage on their devices.
Do they consider the internal storage as both internal and SD Card storage on the device? So that \sdcard\ points to internal storage? Which would treat any inserted MicroSD like secondary storage that some programs might not use?
Or do they consider internal storage as only internal and \sdcard\ would only point to an inserted MicroSD?
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They have internal SD (built in storage) and external SD.
External SD is not touched unless you indicate for it to be used specifically.
I like that Samsung continues to offer devices with a removable battery and MicroSD. This is a major factor for me.
I just wish the MicroSD could somehow be integrated with their internal storage. Since many apps may not be able to see the MicroSD. The apps would consider the internal storage to be SD space.
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Darnell_Chat_TN said:
I like that Samsung continues to offer devices with a removable battery and MicroSD. This is a major factor for me.
I just wish the MicroSD could somehow be integrated with their internal storage. Since many apps may not be able to see the MicroSD. The apps would consider the internal storage to be SD space.
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thats not a good idea, what if you had to remove the external sd card?
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thats not a good idea, what if you had to remove the external sd card?
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I'm using Data2SD with my Asus Transformer Infinity right now to have a 64GB data space (via SD card) and the internal 32GB as extra storage. I have not had to remove the card yet . And really even Data2Sd won't let me use the internal space on the device installing programs, just extra storage. But still its a good step.
Removing the card is not a concern, since I basically don't. If the card goes bad, rebuild things with a new card.
It would be great if the SGS4 gets a MOD like Data2SD. Then anyone who buys a 16GB version could get a 64GB MicroSD and turn it into a 64GB SGS4 . Same way we've turned our 32GB Asus Infinities into 64GB models, and our storage is even faster than the stock Asus internal storage :laugh: .
Oh, it's a good idea, it's soooo good .
I have a couple questions too if someone can please help:
1) What happens when you mount the device via USB. Can you mount either storage (internal or external sd)?
2) Can you easily place game files like GTA Vice City, music files, or Titanium/nandroid backups on the external?
Thanks!
Closed Source Project said:
I have a couple questions too if someone can please help:
1) What happens when you mount the device via USB. Can you mount either storage (internal or external sd)?
2) Can you easily place game files like GTA Vice City, music files, or Titanium/nandroid backups on the external?
Thanks!
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1) they show up as separate drives
2) yes to. Everything except game files as the game would think you don't have the files and try to redownload them
Hi,
So I used my microSD as an adopted storage in my phone and it was working fine for a while. As you all know adopted storage makes the microsd card one with the phone internal storage and encrypts it. Well one day it stopped reading the microsd card. YET, the card is still recognized in a computer (albeit can't access data cause of adopted encryption) and the phone will read another microSD card. So I don't know what the problem is. What I need tho is to get my data off this microSD card that won't read in the phone tho. Thanks!
I've had the same issue, I just had so many problems with it that I just reformatted as Portable storage.
But when you connect to the computer with adopted storage it should just show one device as your SD Card, and that includes all the devices on device storage as well as the card's storage but combined.
This just happened to me.
Using a 64gb pny and it's listing as a lexar. Day after I converted to adoptable storage it said it isn't inserted.
Now no matter how many time I eject and reboot it won't read it.