[Q] Samsung Fascinate - NAND or Internal SDcard? - Fascinate General

So I'm a tad confused... so allow for this question please. The GSM counterparts of the galaxy s had 8-16gb of internal memory thanks to internal SDcards - the Samsung Fascinate and I believe its the same with any cdma versions use 2gb of internal storage. There was a forum post I read somewhere that there was a rumor that this was because it was NAND flash memory and not an internal memory card. However, theres obviously a 'lag fix' for the fascinate and the only reason we would need a lag fix (afaik) is if it were infact still an internal SDcard running the slower samsung partition and not ext3 or 4. If this is the case, why was the internal memory limited to 2gb instead of 8gb? Any answers would be greatly appreciated and thank you for your time to answer, in advance.

I would also like to know if this "internal" memory is up-gradable. If it is a removeable SD card, can we replace with a larger one? For file sharing and things of that nature my Fascinate is harder to deal with than my friends Vibrants. They can transfer a movie lets say from their SD card to their phone, and then transfer to my SD card. I cannot obviously do this due to the lack of phone memory. I have tried to take mine apart to see if there is an internal memory card, but was afraid to dig any deeper into the hardware. Once the screws were removed the phone was not cooperating with the dissassembly. I didn't want to start forcing stuff and break something. Any ideas??

there is not a removable SD card of any type inside your phone. No manufacturer would sacrifice the internal space or spend the money to include an internal card slot.
There are however cases where some manufacturers have chosen to utilize an SD memory chip soldered to the board. You can bet this is done for cost reasons.
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Hi I just got a new Sandisk Micro sd card and would like some info on the procedures to run the majority of my programs/files off the storage card, so the Wing can process at blazing speeds.....I'm sure this thread will be useful for many users. Give Thanks for all your suggestions!!!!
now that you mention it, things get interesting.
It turns out that if you run things off of a card, things DONT get faster. They may even get slower. But if you want raw, awesomelicious, delectable storage, you have the right card.
Some programs do not work if you install them on the storage card.
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[Q] Androidpolice - clarify reference to "SDcard" vs internal memory

Hi,
I was reading the androidpolice article on rooting here, and I'm confused on the references to internal memory vs. rooting.
Move installed applications to SD card
Moving and storing apps on internal memory can significantly slow your device down. If you root, you can avoid that completely.
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I vaguely remember reading that Android phones have "internal" memory (built-in) and SD memory (via micro-SD slot). But our tablets, at least the Transformer, doesn't have "internal" memory...the 16GB or 32GB built in memory shows up as SD_Card, while the micro SD card shows up a "removable".
Is that right?
So the quoted text from AndroidPolice is no longer relevant for our tablets, since the 16GB of built-in Transformer memory is really just as fast as most micro-SD cards you might put in the slot? I'm assuming that the "internal" memory on android phones are slower than the microSD card slot access?
Thanks!
This is referring to a physical SD card and has more of a place in previous versions of android since, on those, it was built around internal memory and SD supplement being standard.
In Honeycomb the SD CARD is just the primary extended memory of the tablet. You cant really move apps to SD (maybe rooted) on Honeycomb because its assumed that you have sufficient internal memory.
The physical SD cards are handled differently in Honeycomb. Its "removable" to differentiate it from the extended memory internal to the tablet. I can see where its confusing since we basically have 16gb and 13gb are allocated as as this "SD card." I would assume this will all be cleared up in Ice Cream Sandwich. The labeling is just a holdover from previous versions of android, on which honeycomb is based.

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Hi,
I am new to Android as I just switched from iOS. Does getting an android phone with higher internal memory make the phone perform faster since the phone get slow when you install too many apps in the phone's internal memory? Would you guys recommend me to save everything in micro sd card? Is there a setting where I can set to directly install apps into micro sd card rather than internal memory? Please advise thanks so much =).
heartnet89 said:
Hi,
I am new to Android as I just switched from iOS. Does getting an android phone with higher internal memory make the phone perform faster since the phone get slow when you install too many apps in the phone's internal memory? Would you guys recommend me to save everything in micro sd card? Is there a setting where I can set to directly install apps into micro sd card rather than internal memory? Please advise thanks so much =).
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This is not a windows pc.. So your phone will not slow down.. However you may see battery drains.. You can use directory bind for installing application data on the external sdcard card..
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[Q] Does Samsung treat internal storage like an SD card and the MicroSD like a second

I'm just trying to get a feel for how Samsung treats storage on their devices.
Do they consider the internal storage as both internal and SD Card storage on the device? So that \sdcard\ points to internal storage? Which would treat any inserted MicroSD like secondary storage that some programs might not use?
Or do they consider internal storage as only internal and \sdcard\ would only point to an inserted MicroSD?
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They have internal SD (built in storage) and external SD.
External SD is not touched unless you indicate for it to be used specifically.
I like that Samsung continues to offer devices with a removable battery and MicroSD. This is a major factor for me.
I just wish the MicroSD could somehow be integrated with their internal storage. Since many apps may not be able to see the MicroSD. The apps would consider the internal storage to be SD space.
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Darnell_Chat_TN said:
I like that Samsung continues to offer devices with a removable battery and MicroSD. This is a major factor for me.
I just wish the MicroSD could somehow be integrated with their internal storage. Since many apps may not be able to see the MicroSD. The apps would consider the internal storage to be SD space.
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thats not a good idea, what if you had to remove the external sd card?
Jeremy said:
thats not a good idea, what if you had to remove the external sd card?
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I'm using Data2SD with my Asus Transformer Infinity right now to have a 64GB data space (via SD card) and the internal 32GB as extra storage. I have not had to remove the card yet . And really even Data2Sd won't let me use the internal space on the device installing programs, just extra storage. But still its a good step.
Removing the card is not a concern, since I basically don't. If the card goes bad, rebuild things with a new card.
It would be great if the SGS4 gets a MOD like Data2SD. Then anyone who buys a 16GB version could get a 64GB MicroSD and turn it into a 64GB SGS4 . Same way we've turned our 32GB Asus Infinities into 64GB models, and our storage is even faster than the stock Asus internal storage :laugh: .
Oh, it's a good idea, it's soooo good .
I have a couple questions too if someone can please help:
1) What happens when you mount the device via USB. Can you mount either storage (internal or external sd)?
2) Can you easily place game files like GTA Vice City, music files, or Titanium/nandroid backups on the external?
Thanks!
Closed Source Project said:
I have a couple questions too if someone can please help:
1) What happens when you mount the device via USB. Can you mount either storage (internal or external sd)?
2) Can you easily place game files like GTA Vice City, music files, or Titanium/nandroid backups on the external?
Thanks!
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1) they show up as separate drives
2) yes to. Everything except game files as the game would think you don't have the files and try to redownload them

[Q] Best Solution for Using Micro SD Card

My final decision point of the S4 over the HTC was the availability of a micro SD card which now I realize is basically unusable.
My thoughts were to move programs and media files to the micro SD to free considerable room in the internal memory.
Of course it is somewhere between hard and can't do that.
It my understanding the new upgrade makes it even tougher.
Are there custom ROMS or other solutions that solve this problem?
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