Force 3g over 1x - Epic 4G General

My epic keeps flipping from 3g to 1x and I'm even using amplifier. My touch pro 2 had a app that forced 3g only. I really hope there is a way to do this with the epic 4g. I'm sure there is, but it's way above what I know about phones. If anyone knows of anyway to do this, please let me know.

1x means its roaming. If its switching between 3g and 1x, your phone is trying to find a strong signal.if it keeps going to 1x, you have a weak sprint signal and its roaming onto verizon.i have this problem at work,and it drains the battery quick.i use the app "roam control" to set my phone to roam only to save battery.hope this helps

shortyboy said:
1x means its roaming. If its switching between 3g and 1x, your phone is trying to find a strong signal.if it keeps going to 1x, you have a weak sprint signal and its roaming onto verizon.i have this problem at work,and it drains the battery quick.i use the app "roam control" to set my phone to roam only to save battery.hope this helps
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1x is not roaming. It is what we had before 3g. Older towers.
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ski21 said:
My epic keeps flipping from 3g to 1x and I'm even using amplifier. My touch pro 2 had a app that forced 3g only. I really hope there is a way to do this with the epic 4g. I'm sure there is, but it's way above what I know about phones. If anyone knows of anyway to do this, please let me know.
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http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/sprint-epic-4g/144706-force-3g-only.html#post2116841
Get your MSL
Easy way to get your MSL #
Then type: ##33284#
type in your MSL
others->HDR 1x->Evdo only

marcusant said:
1x is not roaming. It is what we had before 3g. Older towers.
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You can't use 3G while roaming on Verizon towers. The best you can use is 1x.

LunaticWolf said:
You can't use 3G while roaming on Verizon towers. The best you can use is 1x.
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Not true at all. 01115 and greater prls have 3g roaming on verizon in some states.

Thanks
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so wait when i do this what exactly does this do? because i just did it and in my house i usually only got 3 bars now i have full bars. Does it go off another carriers towers or what?
And also no matter what i still cannot update my prl...Keeps giving me an error...

I remember on the TP2, if you went/forced "EVDO ONLY" you lost voice/text since they operate on 1x don't know if it is the same for the Epic.

Ah,cool...didnt know about the 1x thing..thanx
Ps.confirmed 3g roaming with 01120 prl here in honolulu,hi
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Another cool thing the tp1 and mogul did...tp2 didn't have evdo only option... when your forced it to evdo only it would search and connect to 3g networks that were not even in the prl. 3g roaming on vzw way back in the day

digiblur said:
Not true at all. 01115 and greater prls have 3g roaming on verizon in some states.
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You only get those PRLs with a business account, so its true for the average user.

OK well i did the above now when i try to send text mesages or anything on wifi it is failing and won't let me do it. So whats going on?

LunaticWolf said:
You only get those PRLs with a business account, so its true for the average user.
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Discounted accounts, not business accounts. Lots of people take advantage of the 5-20% discount on their Sprint account.

So noone knows why it was doing this?

tcooper85 said:
So noone knows why it was doing this?
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Poor signal quality(not strength)..problems with towers...could be many things.

Thanks guys, I got my msl and did that now it stays on 3g. It is working great. I'm going to try flashing different modems to see which one works the best at my house. Thanks again.
I only needed to do this because my phone would want to keep going to 1x, which I guess is the strongest signal at my house. My 3g signal is only 2bars at best, where as 1x is 3-4 bars, but for using internet service 1x sucks. Thanks again guys.

digiblur said:
Poor signal quality(not strength)..problems with towers...could be many things.
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Well I had full bars and I was on wifi at first then took off wifi to go to 3g andit was still failing as soon as I switched it back to both it started working agaain. So I don't know

ski21 said:
Thanks guys, I got my msl and did that now it stays on 3g. It is working great. I'm going to try flashing different modems to see which one works the best at my house. Thanks again.
I only needed to do this because my phone would want to keep going to 1x, which I guess is the strongest signal at my house. My 3g signal is only 2bars at best, where as 1x is 3-4 bars, but for using internet service 1x sucks. Thanks again guys.
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Just remember your phone needs 1x to receive voice and sms.

digiblur said:
Discounted accounts, not business accounts. Lots of people take advantage of the 5-20% discount on their Sprint account.
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idk I'm in honolulu, have a discount, and got 60679 prl

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Any way to fix 3G icon showing while in 1X area?

I did some searches on google and found people talking about this but didn't find any fixes.
How do you fix the Epic to show the 1X icon instead of 3G while in 1X areas? Can't believe Sprint actually fools people with this! If I am on 1X I want to see it...guess they didn't want people see the holes in the 3G network everywhere.
I'm rooted and have Clockwork installed so, let me know if there's some files to swap.
Sorry for the question to your question, but I've not been successful in getting the Epic to work on 1x. For me it's 3G, 4G, Wifi or nothing. I was out in the country the weekend before last, I had my Epic and TP2. The TP2 was working on 1x, the Epic had no data connection. The Epic also had no GPS, but that's another issue.
TheMostToys said:
Sorry for the question to your question, but I've not been successful in getting the Epic to work on 1x. For me it's 3G, 4G, Wifi or nothing. I was out in the country the weekend before last, I had my Epic and TP2. The TP2 was working on 1x, the Epic had no data connection. The Epic also had no GPS, but that's another issue.
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Dunno...1X works fine on mine. Had two Epics and 1 TP2 last night. All worked fine via 1X from the older 1X only Airave.
the blue minimalism theme will show you a 1x icon if you are connected to that or the 3g icon. and it has a percentage in the battery meter. really sweet theme
digiblur said:
Dunno...1X works fine on mine. Had two Epics and 1 TP2 last night. All worked fine via 1X from the older 1X only Airave.
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Are you saying there is a 2x airrave or 3g??? I got wifi N anyways but curious?
jbadboy2007 said:
Are you saying there is a 2x airrave or 3g??? I got wifi N anyways but curious?
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Yes, the Samsung Airave only supports 1X for Data, Voice, SMS. The Airvana supports EV and 1X for Voice/SMS.
Trying to get mine upgraded, I'm lazy and hate having to remember to flip Wifi off and on when I'm in the house, even with a widget on the screen.
Yes, 3G airave (airvana) has been shipping for a while now. Have one at my parents's house. GPS works well with it too, unlike first-gen.
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airvana sounds sweet if i had it i would still use wifi for my data. wireless N is soooo fast about the equivalent of 4g

What kind of speeds do you guys get?

OK so I live in the Chicago land area however I am right outside of the range of a 4G signal.
On 3G.....and I am not even sure if I am on 3g/Ev anymore because the 1x icon is disabled in the stock rom...I only get 9.5 kB/s download and 13.8 kB/s pu. OR if you are on default setting that converts to 76kbps down and 111kbps up.
When I had a touch pro 2 I was getting MUCH faster speeds. I have researched somethings and I found that we had issues with upload but never saw anything about download.
Is this just me or is something wrong?
Try this fix.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=925898
Well for me it is the towers, in south texas i am lucky to break 100k up, right now i am in houston and i am getting about 1.2 megs up on 3g. For some reason the south texas area (mcallen,edinburg..etc) just has very poor 3g speed.
Also look into the Roam Control app to use the Verizon network.
Jayavarman said:
Also look into the Roam Control app to use the Verizon network.
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Verizon only allows roaming on their 1x network. This would not help the OP
Also go to the dialer and type *#INFO*1111# then select phone information. Scroll down to network type and see if you're actually connected to EVDO or 1x
Jayavarman said:
Try this fix.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=925898
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For 3G Try This..
It may already be implemented in your ROM, just check again:
Steps:
1. Know the MSL
2. Dial ##3282#
3. Go to multimedia
4. HTTPPD Proxy Port must be 0
5. HTTPPD Proxy Address must be 0.0.0.0
Tried that but it was already set.....
sooo no fix on that
zipxavier said:
Verizon only allows roaming on their 1x network. This would not help the OP
Also go to the dialer and type *#INFO*1111# then select phone information. Scroll down to network type and see if you're actually connected to EVDO or 1x
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It says I am on CDMA - EvDo rev.A
Signal Strength is -91dBm
Judging by your speeds in your OP, that is 100% 2G speeds (aka 1x). You're just in a dead area - I was getting those speeds until about 2 weeks ago. Sprint upgraded their network in my area.
Its samsungs radio. Cant be the towers. Im in nyc and
My hero gets hspa speeds (well average around 3mb/s dl and 1.2mb/s ul)
Whereas i have to be on "4g" with the epic to even get close to and finally pass that.
I feel they gimped the 3g radio to make 4g seem more special cuz the 4g has relatively great speeds
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Jayavarman said:
Also look into the Roam Control app to use the Verizon network.
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Is this a free app the market has it for 3.99.....I don't want to pay for anything and is only going to give me a slight boost
Zzim said:
Is this a free app the market has it for 3.99.....I don't want to pay for anything and is only going to give me a slight boost
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Get cm when its done geting ported. It should have it in the options because it was an option on the hero
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At home, I can pull 1.2 meg down all day, every day. Down around the Purdue campus, i'm lucky to hit 400 kbps.
I'm in Southeast PA (Philly suburbs). I pull anywhere from .5mbps to 1.2mbps down and .3mbps to .6mbps up on Speedtest.net in 3G. And about 3.5mbps to 6.1mbps down and .5mbps to 3mbps up in 4G.
I did the 3G and 4G adjustments and it definitely made a positive impact.
Want Better 4G Signal? Do This
ydoucare said:
At home, I can pull 1.2 meg down all day, every day. Down around the Purdue campus, i'm lucky to hit 400 kbps.
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Hello fellow Boiler! I second the Purdue numbers.
So when you say the radio you mean its a physical limitation or is it something software related?
I guess my next questions is in 2.2 do we get a new radio if its software related.
i live in new york
i jus did the fix on both 3g and 4g
3g: dl: .74mbps ul:.14mbps
4g: dl .95mbps ul:.04mbps
whats with the up speeds in 4g being less than 3g?
About 20 miles north of Austin.
3G, I usually pull about 1.5-2.0mbps down.
4G, at home where I have no real reception (~-90dBm), I get about 4mbps, sometimes hitting 7. In my office at work, where the connection is even worse (~-101dBm), I'll get about 1.5-2.5mbps. When I'm outside and have a good signal (~-70dBm), I'll hit around 7-8mbps, sometimes peaking around 10-11.

Poor and fading signal strength

From day one, I have had isues with signal strength. It will be 6 bars one second and then no bars the next while in the same spot. Is there yet a solution?
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Same here. I get the infinite sms and send failed all the time. Messed up thing is the only rom this doesn't happen to me in is stock. Go figure.
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Mine has always been stock no mods running froyo
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I have the same problem. Mine will go from perfect signal to the damn 1x icon with no bars and be so slow. Even though on in the same spot when I had full signal. It pisses me off.
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Same here
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I have the same problem too.It's even worse when i'm 4G.it sucks
If you install roam control from the market, it will force your phone to roam and in the process turn your phone into a verizon phone since you will be using there towers It solved all my reception issues, just be sure to check allow data roaming and you most likely will not have another problem with reception. Oh also you must be rooted for it to work
Yeah but when using roam control the internet speed isn't 3g
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The 3g icon is displayed on my phone and actively in use since i enabled data roaming, so i dont see your point? Data is fast and reception is good, dont be a debbie downer
jspsuperman said:
The 3g icon is displayed on my phone and actively in use since i enabled data roaming, so i dont see your point? Data is fast and reception is good, dont be a debbie downer
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try testing your speed. just because the 3g icon is displayed doesn't mean you're getting it. and the contract between sprint and verizon stipulates that sprint customers roaming on verizons network are restricted to 1x speeds.
seanwn86 said:
try testing your speed. just because the 3g icon is displayed doesn't mean you're getting it. and the contract between sprint and verizon stipulates that sprint customers roaming on verizons network are restricted to 1x speeds.
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Thank you. That is my point. Your not on 3g
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Im on wifi most of the time anyways, and when Im not (If I remember) I turn on 4g, so thats probably why I never noticed 3g being any different As far as signal strength, roam control does make you have excellent service for making calls, there is no denying that.

mods close thread!

fix does not work.
Is that force roaming to Vz? Maybe you started getting spotty Sprint ownwd EVDO coverage. Forcing 3g only could be putting you on Vz towers.
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Doesn't EVDO Only disable voice calls?
This would also be a good way to save battery without losing all data connectivity.
3G/EVDO uses a lot of power. If you switch this setting to CDMA only you will force the phone to only use 1x. The data rates will be slower, but acceptable enough for most notifications and light things like facebook.
CDMA - 2G/1X Slower Data greater battery life
EVDO - 3G/EVDO Higher speed data, battery hog.
Maximilian Mary said:
Doesn't EVDO Only disable voice calls?
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Yep. Your phone shouldn't even ring doing his "fix".
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Award Tour said:
Is that force roaming to Vz? Maybe you started getting spotty Sprint ownwd EVDO coverage. Forcing 3g only could be putting you on Vz towers.
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I dont think it is.
I have my phone set to Home network only. doing this boosted my signal from 1 bar (-90,-100dBm) to a full signal (-65dBM) it clearly says Sprint CDMA EvDo Rev. A in connection status.
Thank you very much =D
styckx said:
Yep. Your phone shouldn't even ring doing his "fix".
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Yep that is correct. Just tested it...
Hybrid OR CDMA only are the only options you should choose here folks.
CDMA only WILL produce battery life savings though. Your data will be slower then molasses rolling uphill in December BUT it will be sufficient for emails.
It's a very nice find either way just on that fact alone. Back in the motorola days this was a very popular battery saver mod. Disabling EVDO and forcing it to always be 1X.
styckx said:
Yep. Your phone shouldn't even ring doing his "fix".
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hehe.... you are correct sir... going back to old ****ty service again so i can get phone calls
The EVDO radio and CDMA radio are two different radios I believe.
When you put EVDO only you're probably seeing JUST your 3G signal which might appear stronger.
CDMA only you're seeing just your 1x/voice/sms signal.
Hybrid the signal bars I'm sure just average the two out...
That's how I "think!" it works... could be way wrong.
Well at least i tried since sprint is dragging their heels. We need a new radio and quick.
fixxxer2008 said:
Well at least i tried since sprint is dragging their heels. We need a new radio and quick.
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I wouldn't be surprised if a new PRL fixes this... seems to be area specific, I have great signal for the most part...
Also, fixxer, I know you've been having horrid battery life. I'm sure the low signal is causing this as the lower the signal the more power the radio is going to be given to try and maintain the signal.
Try CDMA only and use WiFi whenever you can (also be sure to set WiFi sleep policy to never). 1x uses significantly less power then 3G... although it's to slow to be downloading big apps or loading really complex web pages, it would however be great for general notifications. Give it a shot and let me know if it helps your battery at all!
fixxxer2008 said:
Well at least i tried since sprint is dragging their heels. We need a new radio and quick.
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Hey, it can still work as a temporary solution for some people. I'm close to saying "Dagnabbit, I don't care if I get calls. I want to listen to twit live!" GV notifications should still work, anyway.
getprop ril.MSL
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in adb shell or terminal emulator will kindly reward you with your MSL
TheDub said:
I wouldn't be surprised if a new PRL fixes this... seems to be area specific, I have great signal for the most part...
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yeah, I'm doing pretty great on signal.
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Could be a prl but i still think it needs a radio. This phone is set to wcdma when it should be cdma auto prl. Hopefully we get a fix or ota soon. My battery is better today since i flashed a stock rom and kernel. Not great but better.
I gave the CDMA-only option a shot, no incoming phone calls at all. Switched instead to EVDO only, and calls seems to be coming through better in an area where I had maybe 50% success rate for incoming calls when running unmodified. I'll leave it here for awhile, so I know when someone is actually trying to call me.
This is horribly frustrating, I suffered with poor AT&T service for years for the iPhone and never thought I'd be wishing I hadn't changed carriers. I could maybe justify the shoddy call coverage if data was at least fast, but it's not. I'm giving this another week, and going for a return and possibly switching carriers again.
CDMA only setting for calls/texts paired with 4G for data seems to work pretty well.
Since EVDO only mode seems to prevent receiving calls.
True test will be when I get home, 1930's brick building that has been raising hell with calls.
fixxxer2008 said:
Well at least i tried since sprint is dragging their heels. We need a new radio and quick.
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Didn't someone else come up with this potential fix and post it in the Sprint Community Forum?
wirelessness said:
Didn't someone else come up with this potential fix and post it in the Sprint Community Forum?
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and i never said i wrote it, i put it here for you guys. i did however test it for this guy early this morning. were all trying to find a temp fix until the companies get off their asses.

Is there a Sprint PRL that doesn't slow down roaming 3G?

I notice when I use a Verizon PRL I can download 3G speeds at my place at about 600Kbps. When I use a Sprint PRL and roam it is always around 100Kbps and the ping is very high, usually around 1000ms.
Sprint coverage at my house is terrible, to the point where I can barely send text messages. Verizon works great though, I even get 3G working here at reasonable speeds.
Now the problem with the Verizon PRL is that I can't get back on the Sprint network and I am always roaming no matter what. At work Sprint service is fine. I have roam control which is awesome but it would be nice to roam and have good data rates too.
yes there is
(dont try and flash the zip you have to write the PRL with QPST)
That's the one I'm running now. Maybe it is just connecting to a different tower than with the Verizon PRL.
Oh, wait... I'm using 01115 for a PRL. I will give that one a go. Thanks
yea that gave me 3g speeds (didnt run a speed test but it was fast) but my wireless signal kept dropping....
other prls give me 1x and I get about 6-15kbytes/sec download xD
yeah on roam control ping with verizon is ~1000
im in the same situation.
If i do the QPST thing, how easy will it be to revert back to my sprint prl? Because like you, i would only need it while im in my house.
Step RIGHT out the door, BOOM 6 bars. Its like my house is lead or something lolol
A_Flying_Fox said:
yeah on roam control ping with verizon is ~1000
im in the same situation.
If i do the QPST thing, how easy will it be to revert back to my sprint prl? Because like you, i would only need it while im in my house.
Step RIGHT out the door, BOOM 6 bars. Its like my house is lead or something lolol
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Just choose update prl from settings and it'll revert back to normal.
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11115 and roam control is a beautiful thing!!
if you roam a lot, and consistently, don't be surprised when you contract gets canceled
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MeetFace said:
if you roam a lot, and consistently, don't be surprised when you contract gets canceled
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I have been roaming a ton since first rooting back in feb, and have never had a worning or anything about it, not saying it won't happen to some just throwing it out there that I haven't been warned at all.

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