[Q] sylus/maths/notes - Eee Pad Transformer General

Hey just had afew questions regarding the tablet and searching didn't answer them that well.
1. what is the best stylus to use when taking maths notes/ doing past paper questions. I thought a plastic nib one would be better but cant seem to find any?
2. are the more expensive stylus better?
3. is a tablet really worth it for doing maths/notes on. currently I use a pen and paper but Im disorganised and loose them within a week. I somehow don't think i could loose a tablet
Thanks for the help.

Try Tabnotes, a trial is available on the market and you can use squared maths paper as one of the paper settings.
I am using the Bamboo Stylus from Wacom, although it is quite expensive, it seems to be the best stylus for the Tablet. Boxwave come a close second.

Thanks do you use it for writing notes?

I only have some inexpensive iPad / iPhone styli. they work very well with my other 10" tablet with a capacitive touch screen. While they work on my ASUS Transformer, they are not as sensitive as my real finger. What that means is that applying the same touch with a stylus may not register as nicely as a finger. Is that because I have rather large hands and relatively large fingers, while the rubbery finger on these styli are smaller than a child's finger? I just don't know. What it means is that I prefer my real fingers on my ASUS, while a stylus is prefered for my Archos. Maybe that Wacom stylus is the answer for an ASUS, while an Archos will work with just about anything.
Bye.

I tried both the nub type (boxwave) and the plastic type (DAGI).
I think they both suck compared to paper or a true digitizer. Honestly it wasn't worth it for me...the letters are all fat and you can't fit them anywhere...also sometimes it skips...like when you are trying to do a lower case a...it looks fragmented and funky.
Also, when i write my palm is wresting on the device and it confuses it. So I have to put my hand in an awkward/tiring position.
maybe it is just my writing style though.

TomAnkcorn said:
Thanks do you use it for writing notes?
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Yes , I use this for handwritten notes, I have done a small review of the stylus and have a sample of the Tabnotes output on the following link post 13.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1081199&page=2

HasC said:
Yes , I use this for handwritten notes, I have done a small review of the stylus and have a sample of the Tabnotes output on the following link post 13.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1081199&page=2
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HasC - o...m...g. That looks awesome. Completely different from what I've experienced. How do you hold your pen? All I can say is wow. As soon as my replacement 16gb comes in and if it isn't disfunctional like my last two...I'm buying the bamboo.

newtybar said:
HasC - o...m...g. That looks awesome. Completely different from what I've experienced. How do you hold your pen? All I can say is wow. As soon as my replacement 16gb comes in and if it isn't disfunctional like my last two...I'm buying the bamboo.
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You can hold the pen normally, the only difference being that you cant rest your palm on the TF however what you need to bear in mind is that Tabnotes has a unique note entry system where you can position a block where you would like the text to start and a writing area is displayed at the bottom which you would use to write your notes.
As your notes are written, they are transferred to the writing area, this is excellent as it allows you to write slightly larger than normal and you handwritten notes get transferred to the writing area to a size that you determine by picking a pen size. There is another option that you can pick that allows you to draw freehand which makes this app so flexible.
The best thing since I wrote the review is that after the 3.1 update, the screen sensitivity has improved which makes writing even easier and I would say that it is on par with my DHD or even the IPad2.

Thankyou so much for all the advice!
and it looks better than i expected will definitely be checking out that app thankyou
looks like its time to make the purchase wooo im exited

TomAnkcorn said:
Thankyou so much for all the advice!
and it looks better than i expected will definitely be checking out that app thankyou
looks like its time to make the purchase wooo im exited
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No problems, that's what we are here for on this forum, glad to be able to help.

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Handwritting / Taking notes?

Anybody tried taking handwritten notes (with a stylus) on this thing? I am wondering how that would work with your hand resting on the screen. I have a feeling it doesn't...
And if someone could tell if the precision is enough to select 4 pixels wide and 4 pixels high (or at least 8px wide, 8px high) objects with capacitive stylus it would be nice. I have an application with such small objects that I want to use through VNC and wonder if Xoom will be good enough for this.
Ordered a stylus today to try it.
I am also looking for a good app for this. iPad had some good apps but all I find now are for the Android phones.
If someone has suggestions on this I would like to know.
rljohnson said:
Ordered a stylus today to try it.
I am also looking for a good app for this.
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MaplePaint looks ok for taking notes.
Also, Repligo looks pretty awesome for annotating PDF documents. Simply print any doc to PDF, put it on your XOOM, and off you go. You can do handwritten drawings, notes, you can highlight, etc. and save your annotations back to your PDF. That one I definitely like!
But again, I believe that the hand resting on the screen will throw the whole things off and the stylus won't work.
I haven't tried it yet, but WritePad also looks promising. It's not free though and also not sure on the hand resting on the screen issue.
Try ezPDF!
I'm hoping one the HTC Flyer comes out their scribe app will get pulled out and put to real use on the XOOM.
RaptorMD said:
I'm hoping one the HTC Flyer comes out their scribe app will get pulled out and put to real use on the XOOM.
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Anything is possible but I would not hold my breath. Scribe is more than software. The stylus is made specifically for the digitizer and the software may not work with different hardware.
I'm still waiting for a killer notetaking app that allows stylus use. I have found Handrite to be serviceable. It doesn't let you rest your palm, but that hasn't been too much of an issue for me so far.
I've written the makers of Penultimate for the ipad and they responded that as of early March, they have no plans for an Android port :/

Best styles note taking app?

Going to pickup my Stylus now and wondering what app should I get? I want to be able to take notes, then save to word or pdf and view later
which stylus are you getting out of interest?
Well, Handrite so far has probably been the best 'let me write **** down now' app, and its pretty simple and quick.
I think I have installed every note taking app in the market and have settled on it.
I'd like to see a 'wrist gaurd' so to speak so I can actually lay my hand on the screen and write - ipad has a note app that does it.
There are other more complex apps like Evernote that let you sync stuff to the cloud - but those are a little too much for my need, mainly my notes are written and just temporary 'todos' or 'how todos'
BTW, if you get the Griffin stylus - return it , the tip is to soft and you'll end up scratching the screen (thank god for screen protectors)
Lothaen said:
which stylus are you getting out of interest?
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I got this...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16858995181&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-RSSDailyDeals-_-na-_-na&AID=10521304&PID=4169959&SID=10qk6ik2echjo
Kinda bummed, im left handed and whenever i try to write my wrist is on screen and the stylus doesnt work....
Stylus performance
How does the stylus itself work though, assuming your wrist isn't touching the screen? I really want to try one out, but not for $25. I feel like the foam tip would make writing a bit weird. Does it?
ninjalex76 said:
How does the stylus itself work though, assuming your wrist isn't touching the screen? I really want to try one out, but not for $25. I feel like the foam tip would make writing a bit weird. Does it?
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its decent, i wont be using it for writing. I have the Xoom keyboard i guess ill use that when I need to. I am just going to use it for normal stuff when i dont want fingerprints everywhere
If you just want to take notes I would use Handwrite, solid app.
If you are Interested in drawing I recommend Sketchbook
And if your looking to take notes on like presentation : ezPDF
I've been trying out every hand writing app I can find. So far, the two I like most are MaplePaint (for quick handwritten notes/diagrams) and WritePad for more detailed documents.
I should note that WritePad is a keyboard replacement rather than a self contained app. You can use in conjunction with any text input (I've been using it with Quickoffice). I've been playing around with the WritePad free trial (you have to get it off www.phatware.com) all day and I'm more or less convinced it is worth the $10.
Does evernote allow you to write notes with a styles?
I had a pen like that but the screen is not very responsive if you write very fast(like everybody do)
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HTC Flyer has that 'stylus interupt' thing doesnt it? where you can lean on the screen as it 'disables' the finger touch when you are writing with a stylus...
thought it sounded a good idea

Stylus for A500?

Has anyone done testing with a stylus for the A500? If so, what were your thoughts?
I'd like something I can use to either draw quick sketches for photo ideas, or something I can use to jot a quick note here and there (of course, I'd probably need an app that supports handwriting, but those may come in time).
I purchased a Targus stylus today. Having come from the old pre-capacitive days when the stylus is hard, the new stylus' seemed a little odd but I must say the control is very good. Pin point accuracy - excellent for drawing.
Leechazoid said:
I purchased a Targus stylus today. Having come from the old pre-capacitive days when the stylus is hard, the new stylus' seemed a little odd but I must say the control is very good. Pin point accuracy - excellent for drawing.
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+1
I also got the Targus stylus a week or so ago; and it does works well.. I saw another stylus somewhere online that is supposed to give you even finer control and allow you to actually see exactly where the stylus is touching the screen, but now I can't find where I saw it. I'm thinking about giving the new one a shot too, if I can find it again. ;-)
JackMetal said:
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I also got the Targus stylus a week or so ago; and it does works well.. I saw another stylus somewhere online that is supposed to give you even finer control and allow you to actually see exactly where the stylus is touching the screen, but now I can't find where I saw it. I'm thinking about giving the new one a shot too, if I can find it again. ;-)
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I think you're referring to this one:
http://cgi.ebay.com/DAGi-Stylus-P10...?pt=US_Tablet_Accessories&hash=item41582701ff
I have one and it works very well in general. The only issue is getting it at the right angle with the screen - particularly if you have the screen at an angle. But I like it better than the rubber tipped ones.
I bought the Boxwave stylus. I like it a lot. However it doesn't always catch it, sometimes it clicks on a screen I don't want or am scrolling through. But other than that, I am very happy with it for detailed work. My fingers get sweaty on occasion and I have a hard time using the screen when they are like that. So the stylus is a nice addition to have, especially if you don't like fingerprints.
I do wonder if it will somehow mess up the screen though later on.
Just curious, is there any way to get hand writing recognition to work? So for instance, if I bought one of these stylus's, would I be able to use it and forgo the need for an on screen keyboard?
saeba said:
I think you're referring to this one:
http://cgi.ebay.com/DAGi-Stylus-P10...?pt=US_Tablet_Accessories&hash=item41582701ff
I have one and it works very well in general. The only issue is getting it at the right angle with the screen - particularly if you have the screen at an angle. But I like it better than the rubber tipped ones.
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Thanks. Yep, that's the one; I couldn't remember it's name at all.
kb_klash said:
Just curious, is there any way to get hand writing recognition to work? So for instance, if I bought one of these stylus's, would I be able to use it and forgo the need for an on screen keyboard?
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I'm using flexT9 app which has peninput, but its not perfect, the capacitive stylus is more like big stick then a pen
Can anyone recommend a stylus that's got more of a penpoint tip rather than something the size of a finger?
With a capacitive screen I don't think something like this exists. Although I was in a meeting today with somebody taking notes on an I pad, not sure how they were doing that.
I own this stylus and I really like it. This is the only stylus I have used so I cannot compare it to anything.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004BSF1I8
propagandax said:
With a capacitive screen I don't think something like this exists. Although I was in a meeting today with somebody taking notes on an I pad, not sure how they were doing that.
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I got word yesterday that Acer is releasing one specifically for the A500. I will get more information and keep everyone posted.
I'm getting behind on everything as I had to go out of town for a few days on a business trip. Also, prototype custom Iconia case ships to me today for a review and should be available stateside after the 26th. It's similar to the FUSE.
I also use a Targus stylus for iPad as it was called.
Has a soft rubber tip, but works great on my device.
I have a griffin made for the Ipad but works on all my Android touch screens
drawing
This looks like a great one. I also found a video on you tube how to make one out of a pin and allum Fool
Going to try the DIY thing as it looks super accurate. If fails I'll be buying this one
http://cgi.ebay.com/oStylus-Capacit...?pt=US_Tablet_Accessories&hash=item4aab617685
propagandax said:
With a capacitive screen I don't think something like this exists. Although I was in a meeting today with somebody taking notes on an I pad, not sure how they were doing that.
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Youtube dagi stylus and you will see magic
my gf works at best buy and she got me the Rocketfish (best buy brand) stylus for 2 bucks lol. it works great with the iconia and ipads.
stylus
I picked up the targus stylus from staples.its kinda OK.
But I do enjoy my hair stylists She rocks.geeky girls can look hot as well.giggles
Has anyone found an app that allows taking handwritten notes? Everything I have tested is really laggy for note taking.
huxflux2003 said:
Has anyone found an app that allows taking handwritten notes? Everything I have tested is really laggy for note taking.
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Nah - all I've found are really crappy too.

Will be doing an indepth review of the Note - let me know your questions!

Hi everyone,
I'm getting a Note (whenever it does actually release that is).
Keen to know what questions you have about the device? Either ask here, or post a comment here (it'll probably be easier for me to track questions via the blog).
Will also be getting a Razr and Nexus if you have questions about those handsets.
Hey!
I can't wait to get this phone!!
The stylus looks interesting, and I'm keen to know whether it feels "right" as a pen and paper substitute. Can you write on the screen easily without the stylus dragging too much/feeling too slide-y etc? I'm talking purely as using this as pen/paper rather than using handwriting-recognition etc.
Oooh - also, if this is something you were planning to do, I'd be interested to know how Divx/videos look/work over HDMI out
And battery life is always a good Q, although I know it normally takes a week or two to get a feel for this.
Very jealous of your new phone! Thanks for your report
Thanks man, I waiting for one myself. My one question is: When can I upgrade to ICS? Not easy for to answer
An overall comparison between the devices would be nice.
I am so hopeful that it will come to the US on AT&T, I'll skip the SGS II for this one! I'm very interested in the stylus and its functions, if you could go over that I'd appreciate it.
Please try to include stuff that other videos don't.
It seems like the videos cover the exact same stuff over and over - it's incredibly boring. I'm close to making my own video actually, if I don't see a review that I like.
Stuff I want to know, for example:
1) Most of the stylus writing demos are stupid. They write 'HELLO' or "BOB' in huge finger paint letters.
That's not how it's supposed to be used. It's supposed to emulate a pad of paper and a pen. Can you write, say, a shopping list on it? Is it comfortable to write on? Does it have enough friction or does the stylus slide all over the place? Is it really noisy and would annoy everyone around you? (plastic vs glass = tap tap tap generally) How comfortable is the stylus?
How well does say, a regular capacitive stylus work? what exact functions will you lose? (pressure sensitivity, screenshot button, anything else?)
2) Show some pocket tests. Show how easily it slides into say, a front jeans pocket. Then sit down. Do jacket pockets, or whatever. People always ask how pocketable it is.
3) Ideally show some useful ways to use the stylus.
There's a demo of some guy circling the weather map and writing 'nice weather'. is anyone really going to do that?
The 'trace an outline to crop'- that's clever. Anything else like that?
A better example is to say, take a screenshot of a map, with buildings circled that you want to visit. I think a stylus is at its best when annotating things like documents or whatever.
4) Does the s-pad scroll, like you are a window above a larger sheet of paper? or is a fixed block?
- Frank
Pocket tests +1.
Like jeans, trousers etc. Might as well have to completely refresh my wardrobe for this.
One thing that I did not see yet is how the applications would look like in 1280x800 and compare to let's say a regular 800x480.
Can we return to a 800x480 mode if we want (with a reduced window)?
How easy is it to crop images ? What are the different functions of the built in drawing program?
Are there any other apps for taking notes compatible with the pen ?
Does the pen work as a mouse in a VPN connection/remote connection to a Windows system ?
On the audio outputs, what is the maximum output level?
Can you take pictures with the volume buttons ?
Hi,
Im interested much on Note, because dont want to have both smartphone and tablet PC, so hope Note can replace both.
Im worry about matter, said on some forum & review: Note as phone is too big but as web browser is too small.
Also with a high price, i worry to buy very expensive but not for daily use product.
Pls give your review how Note is comfortable for the daily use?, Can it completely replace a smartphone and tablet ?
kunalparwani said:
Pocket tests +1.
Like jeans, trousers etc. Might as well have to completely refresh my wardrobe for this.
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Here is a nice video that shows the note fitting into some jeans. I have seen most of it before, but the pocket demonstration is not till after the 14 minute mark!
BTW, I have a Dell Streak 5" and its actually a little longer than the Note. Fits into my pockets fine, even with Otterbox case...
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Where you getting it from and how much @nztechfreak
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DJKick_fr said:
Can we return to a 800x480 mode if we want (with a reduced window)?
Can you take pictures with the volume buttons ?
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Why on earth would you want the former?
I have some games on my current phone which don't scale, and appear in the middle. I can't stand it - the controls are impossible. ( i guess since we have the stylus it is okay, but why would you actually want this? It's not like you can open multiple windows)
I'm quite certain the answer to the last question is no - you have to use the camera app (and I beleve the galaxy s 2 is the same way)
- Frank
Is the touch experience as fluid as galaxy s2? I mean is the stylus an added bonus or a requirement? Did you try throwing it against the wall?
vuvan said:
Im worry about matter, said on some forum & review: Note as phone is too big but as web browser is too small.
Pls give your review how Note is comfortable for the daily use?, Can it completely replace a smartphone and tablet ?
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It's a matter of taste, and how you use a phone/tablet.
As far as tablet goes, would you be willing to go down to a 5.3" screen for pocketable 24x7 access? Depends - for example if you read a LOT, maybe you prefer that 7"/10" screen.
As far as replacing your phone goes - it's mostly how big are your hands, and how important is one handed usage? This is a two handed device, like all tablets.
- Frank
Can you also answer my concern?
Dragooon123 said:
Is the touch experience as fluid as galaxy s2? I mean is the stylus an added bonus or a requirement? Did you try throwing it against the wall?
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It seems just like a big S2 (I have both), the stylus is a bonus, not needed.
I didn't throw it against the wall, since my S2 has become to small, so I will throw that against the wall.
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kunalparwani said:
Pocket tests +1.
Like jeans, trousers etc. Might as well have to completely refresh my wardrobe for this.
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No, you wont have to I guess.... Until now the Note fits everywhere where the S2 fitted before.
ChodTheWacko said:
Why on earth would you want the former?
I have some games on my current phone which don't scale, and appear in the middle. I can't stand it - the controls are impossible. ( i guess since we have the stylus it is okay, but why would you actually want this? It's not like you can open multiple windows)
I'm quite certain the answer to the last question is no - you have to use the camera app (and I beleve the galaxy s 2 is the same way)
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Originally Posted by DJKick_fr View Post
Can we return to a 800x480 mode if we want (with a reduced window)?
Why on earth would you want the former?
I have some games on my current phone which don't scale, and appear in the middle. I can't stand it - the controls are impossible. ( i guess since we have the stylus it is okay, but why would you actually want this? It's not like you can open multiple windows)
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This is just in case the scaling looks odd or in case the app does not launch properly.
The scaling from iphone to ipad apps is quite bad, often I don't use the scaling for iphone apps on ipad so just making sure you can remove scaling if you want to.
Please test the audio quality in headphone out and let us know if its good or atleast any better than galaxy s2.
Test the glonas gps. How does it work? Does it work without internet connection?
Greatbape said:
Test the glonas gps. How does it work? Does it work without internet connection?
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I tried the Chartcross GPS Test and got without a SIM-Card and deactivated Wifi a fix in under 10 sec!
smeddy said:
Hey!
I can't wait to get this phone!!
The stylus looks interesting, and I'm keen to know whether it feels "right" as a pen and paper substitute. Can you write on the screen easily without the stylus dragging too much/feeling too slide-y etc? I'm talking purely as using this as pen/paper rather than using handwriting-recognition etc.
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ChodTheWacko said:
Can you write, say, a shopping list on it? Is it comfortable to write on? Does it have enough friction or does the stylus slide all over the place? Is it really noisy and would annoy everyone around you? (plastic vs glass = tap tap tap generally) How comfortable is the stylus?
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The Stylus has nearly no friction and is sliding very fast over the glass. A little tap noise is there, but not annoying. Also the Stylus is a little bit small! imho its not very comfortable to write but for me thats ok because I just wanted the big screen
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2) Show some pocket tests. Show how easily it slides into say, a front jeans pocket. Then sit down. Do jacket pockets, or whatever. People always ask how pocketable it is.
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It fits in a front jeans pocket but if you sit down it is visible a litte bit at the top of the pocket!
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How easy is it to crop images ? What are the different functions of the built in drawing program?
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With the stylus very easy because if you hold the button on the stylus and hold a long tap on the screen it takes a screenshot of the whole screen!
DJKick_fr said:
Are there any other apps for taking notes compatible with the pen ?
Does the pen work as a mouse in a VPN connection/remote connection to a Windows system ?
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The Stylus works everywhere like a finger, only that it is more accurate for handwriting/drawing! I tried Gmote and it works flawlessly!
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On the audio outputs, what is the maximum output level?
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On maximum the speaker sound is really loud. It sounds quite well. While watching a video everything sounds loud enough and clear!
DJKick_fr said:
Can you take pictures with the volume buttons ?
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Unfortunately only the on-screen button works!
ankydu said:
Please test the audio quality in headphone out and let us know if its good or atleast any better than galaxy s2.
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Please nswer my question as well.

Stylus or no stylus???

What do you guys think? Is there a good use for it? Do you use it? What are your thoughts in general.
i use a stylus once in a while, but its not what i expected originally. I had played with the digitizer stylus on the htc flyer earlier, and that was such a fantastic stylus experience, i thought i would be able to have that same level of detail, but apparently it doesnt work that way on other tablets, htc flyer has a special digitizer layer on top of the capacitive screen, that makes input form the special digitizer pen more accurate, like i can literally write chicken scratch on that thing and it is perfectly legible.
but on regular capacitive screens, the best stylus wont do much more than what your finger does. If you want to use the stylus just for swiping, and moving stuff, then it's okay i suppose, especially when its cold. But its not a handwriting replacement, or even a decent sketching tool, just a finger replacement. Regular styluses have this weird squishy foam tip also, that annoys me.
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i use a stylus once in a while, but its not what i expected originally.
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This.
I have the Samsung stylus and use it all the time. To me, it's a tad more precise than my finger and it keeps the screen clean of finger prints. The only app it seems to work better than average in is the Asus notes app that's available in the dev section. Even then, it's for quick notes and phone numbers not actual writing.
I'm using one now. The biggest advantage for me is when entering text. My wife asked for one. I grabed one at Walmart, tried it out and had to get one for myself. I like it.
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Yep I agree with everyone above. I purchased the Jot stylus which is supposed to be one of the better ones and it was just bleh. I wanted to use my Tab for note taking and stuff and it just won't register cleanly especially if you're trying to write 'normally'. For drawing and bigger letters it's fine, but anything smaller, forget it.
spyder560 said:
Yep I agree with everyone above. I purchased the Jot stylus which is supposed to be one of the better ones and it was just bleh. I wanted to use my Tab for note taking and stuff and it just won't register cleanly especially if you're trying to write 'normally'. For drawing and bigger letters it's fine, but anything smaller, forget it.
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There's an app for that. Touchscreentune in the dev section. It helps a great deal, though it doesn't make the Tab perfect. One caveat... You need to be rooted to use it.

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