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Hello xda-ers!
I have been stalking around, tasting everybody's cooking for a couple of weeks now, and i have got to get something off my chest.
I did search, I do realize that what I am looking for can not be made and that its no one's fault (I might be giving htc a meaningful look right now).
I like a whole lot of roms and chefs here, I really do, but the rom I'm after seems to not exist - one of two options:
1. A hero rom with all the eyecandy, that's donut based for compatibility with newer apps like goggles and the like.
2. An Eclair rom that has video and youtube working.
And so I would like to ask of you wizzies, is there light at the end of the tunnel? Are things comming around? How do you see it?
Correct me if I'm wrong, hardware-ish the mytouch is 36 MB of ram shorter then a hero and a has a lesser camera, but its not like the hero is running its os on its last bits of ram or anything so basically what the hero can do the mytouch can do, no? Is it safe to assume that when the hero\magic gets an update (and I do hope that it does) someone could pull over some driver support for eclair or something?
Thank you all so much for all your hard work, you guys are the reason I love smartphones so much, I'm dirt poor but i promise I'll buy you guys a round of beer once I get out of college
Its a matter of time bro. Be batient. A month ago, none of the eclair roms had camera. Now they all do. A month before that none of the eclair roms had N1 voice keyboard. Now they all do. God knows what some of these amazing roms will have and do a month from now. [/good deed for the year]
Love the FAQ sig lol
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Correct me if I'm wrong, hardware-ish the mytouch is 36 MB of ram shorter then a hero and a has a lesser camera, but its not like the hero is running its os on its last bits of ram or anything so basically what the hero can do the mytouch can do, no? Is it safe to assume that when the hero\magic gets an update (and I do hope that it does) someone could pull over some driver support for eclair or something?
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What?
MT3G has 192MB Ram just like Dream but has 512 ROM like Hero.Hero has 288MB RAM.
Macrophage001 said:
Love the FAQ sig lol
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^5 to you bro
mnissan said:
1. A hero rom with all the eyecandy, that's donut based for compatibility with newer apps like goggles and the like.
2. An Eclair rom that has video and youtube working.
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1. The devs aren't the ones making the actual hero, they just make hero work with our phones. They can't just say "I want you to be donut", and it be donut. Htc decided to skip donut, and the devs can't do much about that. They can however give you 2.0 hero which is scattered about the forum.
2. Drivers, drivers, drivers. You know, the thing that appears in almost every first post for this problem
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1. The devs aren't the ones making the actual hero, they just make hero work with our phones. They can't just say "I want you to be donut", and it be donut. Htc decided to skip donut, and the devs can't do much about that. They can however give you 2.0 hero which is scattered about the forum.
2. Drivers, drivers, drivers. You know, the thing that appears in almost every first post for this problem
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As I've said, I realize that.
My point is that apperently you can't cook rosie\sense\whatever onto a 1.6 rom without htc (Ref: "I might be giving HTC a meaningful look") and at the same time you can cook it onto a 2.0 rom - which means broken video drivers.
I'm sure there's a good reason for it, and this is not a rant, just needed to let steam out I guess.
mnissan said:
As I've said, I realize that.
My point is that apperently you can't cook rosie\sense\whatever onto a 1.6 rom without htc (Ref: "I might be giving HTC a meaningful look") and at the same time you can cook it onto a 2.0 rom - which means broken video drivers.
I'm sure there's a good reason for it, and this is not a rant, just needed to let steam out I guess.
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Well steam out in the right section next time
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Well steam out in the right section next time
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LOL +2000
"if" you had searched you could have found answers to both of your questions... and maybe posted in the correct section.
maybe that "I might be giving HTC a meaningful look" should be turned into "i actually searched and posted in the Q&A section or the I didn't read before posting..."
No offence but seriously if you would have searched you would have found those 2 answers in almost every thread that had to do with hero or eclair...
mnissan said:
As I've said, I realize that.
My point is that apperently you can't cook rosie\sense\whatever onto a 1.6 rom without htc (Ref: "I might be giving HTC a meaningful look") and at the same time you can cook it onto a 2.0 rom - which means broken video drivers.
I'm sure there's a good reason for it, and this is not a rant, just needed to let steam out I guess.
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I think someone leaked an HTC branded Eclair ROM with the "rosie/sense/whatever," and that's why you see it cooked into a 2.0 ROM.
Bless him, don't be to hard its obvious he needs a carer
shadowch31 said:
Bless him, don't be to hard its obvious he needs a carer
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Im sorry if i hurt anyones feelings....uh not really but serious on the searching!
if i did hurt your feelings feel free to express your feelings to someone else because either you are too sensitive or it my be that time of month... use the Ipad and get over it!
Have a GREAT DAY!
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Im sorry if i hurt anyones feelings....uh not really but serious on the searching!
if i did hurt your feelings feel free to express your feelings to someone else because either you are too sensitive or it my be that time of month... use the Ipad and get over it!
Have a GREAT DAY!
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iTampon's come with strings for easy removal.
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iTampon's come with strings for easy removal.
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iAlwaysPantyLiners come with wings!
Well, this has gone off topic very quickly. Not that it was technically on topic to begin with since it was posted in the wrong place...
fiktion said:
Well, this has gone off topic very quickly. Not that it was technically on topic to begin with since it was posted in the wrong place...
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It went off topic at the same rate the iPad went from wanted to ridiculed. What's so bad about that?
Well back on topic/kinda...
Do we know for sure that htc will release the necessary drivers for video playback/camera? It sounds like some people are positive we'll get them eventually...I switched back to donut because I like being able to watch youtube, but its amazing how far along eclair roms have come, and mad props to NCommander for reverse engineering the camera drivers. Without him we'd still have no camera at this point. But I was just wondering if its confirmed or not that we will indeed get those drivers from htc one day.
Well, T-Mobile is teasing us with an Eclair update for our phones. We shall see.
What I would REALLY like is a ROM that is smooth and as responsive and the one on the iPhone. Doesn't need fancy apps, just the basic things like Messaging, Phone, Browser, camera/camcorder, apps of course. Anyone else think the same? It's what I have been looking for , for a long time
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What I would REALLY like is a ROM that is smooth and as responsive and the one on the iPhone. Doesn't need fancy apps, just the basic things like Messaging, Phone, Browser, camera/camcorder, apps of course. Anyone else think the same? It's what I have been looking for , for a long time
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There's actually one like that, it's called iPhone OS. I suggest you buy an iPhone and try it
Just wondering if anyone had tried porting it or anything like that. That would be neat.
Go ahead and try it. Let us know how it works out for you...
I'll try and fiddle around with it.
There was a thread about it and someone was working it, but its under all these topics. Would be nice to have though.
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I don't think any true "porting" would be necessary. If we were to push/pull the right apks/libs, it would probably fire right up. They have a system dump of the Motorola Enzo in the general Android development forums that I was looking at last night... the system/app directory seemed to contain multiple apks related to the blur interface...
I didn't look to far into it... unsure if it'll run on 2.1 currently. I'd rather work on porting Windows Mobile Classic.
I attempted and got it booting, but didn't have time to fix the issues.
Once we get FriendStream I think blur is useless.
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I don't think any true "porting" would be necessary. If we were to push/pull the right apks/libs, it would probably fire right up. They have a system dump of the Motorola Enzo in the general Android development forums that I was looking at last night... the system/app directory seemed to contain multiple apks related to the blur interface...
I didn't look to far into it... unsure if it'll run on 2.1 currently. I'd rather work on porting Windows Mobile Classic.
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ahhhh WinMo... how I loved thee. I really do miss my HTC Touch (Vogue) its cuz of zenulator an co. that I jumped on the android ship
Kcarpenter said:
I attempted and got it booting, but didn't have time to fix the issues.
Once we get FriendStream I think blur is useless.
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Maybe, but FriendStream honestly kinda sucks compared to MotoBlur in my opinion. Not as feature rich.
do they even have motoblur yet running on anything 2.1? Don't think the droid has it...
If you are going to try. Go download s_blur on the G1 forums, it would give you a good starting base, then take it appart pull its kernel out, put our kernel in.
I had to stop when I was having issues with my linux liveCD and using CPIO. Can't unpack/repack the files with out that. and for some reason it just wouldn't work for me. I was going to try again one day because it would be cool.
But anyways:
Once you get our kernel in it, it will boot. but just about everything force closes.
Where do you get FriendStream?
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Where do you get FriendStream?
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I think only the legend Rom has it working.
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Maybe, but FriendStream honestly kinda sucks compared to MotoBlur in my opinion. Not as feature rich.
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?, I haven't found it to be anymore feature packed (From what I tried on the Moto Backflip), FS is more compacted whereas MB is split (widget wise).
I think its better split up cause if you follow a lot of people its hard to manage that with FriendStream, I dont know.
if it was possible to port onto the HTC Touch then its possible for our phone it just requires a dev with the knowhow and the demand for such a rom. lets be honest as much as our devs love to tweak their phones they also need some love in the form of donations because this work isnt easy. I was building my own roms for my Touch before the Hero came along and it was tedious work. That said if its ever done I will try this out as I just bought my girl a Moto Cliq and she seems to LOVE it. I honestly tho will never buy another phone that isnt made by HTC
I was fiddling around with this too. I got it to boot and connect to Sprint.... but that's all I got it to do.
HeroMeng said:
I was fiddling around with this too. I got it to boot and connect to Sprint.... but that's all I got it to do.
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You act like that's a bad thing. I know nothing about building roms, but a start is a start. Anyhow, a blur rom would be awesome to have. I personally like the look of motoblur.
I had this running on the touch vogue when it first came out. It's ok but sense is way better for me and really don't do the social networking thing. Now if it had anti-social networking I'd be using it right now.
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Two Thing that we are currently have trouble with:
1、You need to use a special devices to disable the Chip.
2、We still can't unlock NAND.
ANYWAY WE ARE WORKING TO SOLVE THOSE PROBLEMS.
By Andtoo Team
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Two Thing that we are currently have trouble with:
1、You need to use a special devices to disable the Chip.
2、We still can't unlock NAND.
ANYWAY WE ARE WORKING TO SOLVE THOSE PROBLEMS.
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Jtag interface is what I've been expecting, no sneak peak needed, we know what root will yield, so, lock this thread
Dalamak said:
Jtag interface is what I've been expecting, no sneak peak needed, we know what root will yield, so, lock this thread
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We used the smart card & s58 file to disable the chip,not the Jtag interface.
Why would you post this in one thread:
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I haven't read every post lately, but with my daily glancing, I have heard no mention of advancements or failures on the Jtag side. I know we had at lease one Dev with a torn down Jtaged interfaced G2
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And then 24 minutes later say it is what you expected and request that this thread be locked?
I just wanted to say that I very much appreciate your work towards this. I wish you people all the luck.
Kudos on the progress, thanks for the update!
Yes thanks for the update. Its nice to see progress info as it had started to run dry.
Yea thanks can't wate devs are the answers to my prayers in the phone world
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Thanks for the update, this is good to know.
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looks nice, waiting for nand unlock
Looks cool. As long as we don't need to open our phones downgrade os or anything like that and unlocks nand.
Qualifys for the bounty
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I just came a little bit...
grankin01 said:
Why would you post this in one thread:
And then 24 minutes later say it is what you expected and request that this thread be locked?
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sorry, thought this trhead was started by, a newbie, coming off a fresh upwrapiing and a quick google search of newly arrived G2. The 1 post history and screen name through me off, it is great work. Just a big fan and practioner of Jtag and its warm goodness.
Best of luck to u
we will try our best. thanks everyone for your replys
Dalamak said:
sorry, thought this trhead was started by, a newbie, coming off a fresh upwrapiing and a quick google search of newly arrived G2. The 1 post history and screen name through me off, it is great work. Just a big fan and practioner of Jtag and its warm goodness.
Best of luck to u
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Understood, there have been a lot of "hey, have you guys seen this" threads.
Which, to be fair, aren't ALWAYS bad threads.
this is awesome...i was starting to break down a little bit more every day. T-mob and HTC are trying to break me. You my friend are putting in WORK!!!
keep up the good roooooot!
my phone shows the same ..but its "Visionary"...whats the difference here??
qqyycchh said:
youtube.com/watch?v=8qFUPo9lR7Q
i14.photobucket.com/albums/a338/qqyycchh/IMAG0003.jpg
Two Thing that we are currently have trouble with:
1、You need to use a special devices to disable the Chip.
2、We still can't unlock NAND.
ANYWAY WE ARE WORKING TO SOLVE THOSE PROBLEMS.
By Andtoo Team
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lightningtrip said:
my phone shows the same ..but its "Visionary"...whats the difference here??
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the same like the pic?
For those that are too lazy to copy and paste. Here are the links from the topic. Since i can post
http://youtube.com/watch?v=8qFUPo9lR7Q
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Also, OP, Why does this seem to be booting into 1.6? That bootup screen doesn't seem to be 2.2
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Also, OP, Why does this seem to be booting into 1.6? That bootup screen doesn't seem to be 2.2
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Although I agree the bootup animation is from older versions of Android, It's clearly 2.x+ as shown at 1:20 by the lwp, phone app instead of dialer, and a few other apps in the drawer.
I was looking through the lists of roms for the droid 2 and I saw that all the roms are either stock or blur or half blur.... I was wondering if it would even be possible to port the MIUI rom over to the droid 2. It is made for the incredible, nexus 1, original droid, evo, and a few other big name phones and I was thinking we should port it over to the droid 2.
I know there are going to be a bunch of complications but I still don't really understand why a bunch of these roms don't work yet for the droid 2 and what is involved in porting them over...
thanks a lot,
ljbaumer
EDIT: forgot to add the link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=823494
i fully agree, i was excited about coming from the eris to the d2 in hopes that this rom existed for it. i've been pretty bummed out since vzw swapped me out because the eris dev community was so strong... i would love to see a miui rom though...
I am in the process of doing this. Last two attempts have been unsuccesful. I am trying to get help from the devs that have been succesful.
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I am in the process of doing this. Last two attempts have been unsuccesful. I am trying to get help from the devs that have been succesful.
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that is awesome. if i knew ANYTHING about development i would be the first person to help you. thanks for doing this, anything that provides more options gets us in the right direction.
It would be hard, but I am gonna work on it after my AOSP build. I would be buggy though, because it is an aosp rom.
Matt4542 said:
It would be hard, but I am gonna work on it after my AOSP build. I would be buggy though, because it is an aosp rom.
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right on man, sounds great. how is unleashed 3 coming along?
If we were able to get MIUI on to the droid 2 would we be able to use a similar strategy for porting sense over?
Also when is someone gonna work on a kitchen for the D2? I feel like once we get a kitchen set up for this baby we're gonna get a bunch of cool new roms
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i fully agree, i was excited about coming from the eris to the d2 in hopes that this rom existed for it. i've been pretty bummed out since vzw swapped me out because the eris dev community was so strong... i would love to see a miui rom though...
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I came from the Original Droid and the Dev community was HUGE! I would practially have a new ROM every week and I could switch so easily with Rom Manager. I loved it, the D2 just seems too hard to root, I've had to do so many sbf restores, I miss my old OG Droid.
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I came from the Original Droid and the Dev community was HUGE! I would practially have a new ROM every week and I could switch so easily with Rom Manager. I loved it, the D2 just seems too hard to root, I've had to do so many sbf restores, I miss my old OG Droid.
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The droid 2 isn't hard to root at all. Why don't you use the one click root methods?
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Thornfulless Rose said:
The droid 2 isn't hard to root at all. Why don't you use the one click root methods?
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Sorry I should have rephrased myself. Rooting is terribly easy compared to the old way on the OG droid. But I meant installing roms is such a pain on the D2
I am another former Eris user. There were a TON of really great ROMs on that phone. I said it before, I'll say it again: I knew eFuse would mean a diminished number of ROMs and a smaller dev community but I was honestly astonished at how small it is. I'm hoping the Matt churns out his Unleashed 3 here real soon as that would be the perfect basis for a kitchen. Having a good, solid kitchen would be all that we'd need to see some more good, non-Blur ROMs pop up.
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I am another former Eris user. There were a TON of really great ROMs on that phone. I said it before, I'll say it again: I knew eFuse would mean a diminished number of ROMs and a smaller dev community but I was honestly astonished at how small it is. I'm hoping the Matt churns out his Unleashed 3 here real soon as that would be the perfect basis for a kitchen. Having a good, solid kitchen would be all that we'd need to see some more good, non-Blur ROMs pop up.
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I am from eris also and I made roms for myself (not for the public). It was a great community and I did a lot of beta testing for the developer of white widow rom series ( which was a big hit).
I wish some devs would move over or we atleast get a kitchen...
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well how were the first few miui roms ported to previous devices, and how can we do that for our D2s? im interesting in helping in any way i can. it sickens me, this is the first device ive ever had to have less than a few roms to play with.
Edit: foot in mouth.
I guess I could PM the evo developer who ported it over... ill try and to that later tonight
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well how were the first few miui roms ported to previous devices, and how can we do that for our D2s? im interesting in helping in any way i can. it sickens me, this is the first device ive ever had to have less than a few roms to play with.
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You can thank Moto for locking the bootlader and making us jump through hoops and using work arounds to get what we want out of our devices. If we had an unlocked bootloader then we could just install a new kernel but I assume new devices will have similar securities on them so at least from moto get used to working around until someone on the inside slips the keys.
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No.
Answer is in the title.
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Answer is in the title.
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jmmmmm said:
Clearly you are not knowledgeable enough to answer the question. Feel free to skip over my posts from now on.
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Clearly you are knowledgeable enough to read the title of his post which is also my answer.
jose makalolot said:
Clearly you are knowledgeable enough to read the title of his post which is also my answer.
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Would a simple yes or no be to much to ask?
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He said no dude... besides you asked in the wrong section.
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Which just proves you're not observant. Yes, there are a lot of sense builds because they add extra features plus can be disabled easily for basic stock experience but there are cyanogen and stock builds out there if you LOOK. Hell, I was just at one, which is why I remembered to come back here. Don't be upset because I chose to answer you in the same simple way you asked. It's not my fault you don't see what's in front of you. Now browse. Finding new fun builds that fit our specific needs is why we're here, is it not?
ya they pretty much dont care about vanilla froyo and those that do are either old or autobuild , or are restricted to certain outdated kernels ... also cuz of this reason most cm versions will have touch screen lag issues and all the goodies that come with that , so basically if ya want a decent vanilla froyo experience hd2 isnt for u
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ya they pretty much dont care about vanilla froyo and those that do are either old or autobuild , or are restricted to certain outdated kernels ... also cuz of this reason most cm versions will have touch screen lag issues and all the goodies that come with that , so basically if ya want a decent vanilla froyo experience hd2 isnt for u
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Thank you for a coherent answer. Thats what I was starting to see about froyo. I have been updating my HyperDroid on my own but seem to have met my technical limit and am considering switching. Everything is great with it, but I'm considering whether or not I want the new camera. Another round of decisions I guess.
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Which just proves you're not observant. Yes, there are a lot of sense builds because they add extra features plus can be disabled easily for basic stock experience but there are cyanogen and stock builds out there if you LOOK. Hell, I was just at one, which is why I remembered to come back here. Don't be upset because I chose to answer you in the same simple way you asked. It's not my fault you don't see what's in front of you. Now browse. Finding new fun builds that fit our specific needs is why we're here, is it not?
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The XDA application does not seem allow us to see response/reply titles. Only original post titles. So I never saw your first No answer. I apologize and thanks for your response. I was looking for an quick opinion from fellow users and I certainly was not asking anyone to go do research for me.
I don't know if you have noticed but over the last few months folks have really gotten a bit over the top with the sarcasm in response to questions, almost to the point where it is insulting in some cases. I have seen this more and more. My initial thought when reading your reply WITHOUT the title line was here was more sarcasm. So again, I apologize and thanks for your response.
jose makalolot said:
He said no dude... besides you asked in the wrong section.
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souljaboy said:
ya they pretty much dont care about vanilla froyo and those that do are either old or autobuild , or are restricted to certain outdated kernels ... also cuz of this reason most cm versions will have touch screen lag issues and all the goodies that come with that , so basically if ya want a decent vanilla froyo experience hd2 isnt for u
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Rubbish, I've been using NexusHD2 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=793924 it's actively developed and updated and hastarin 8.5.1 isn't exactly outdated.
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Rubbish, I've been using NexusHD2 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=793924 it's actively developed and updated and hastarin 8.5.1 isn't exactly outdated.
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True if ya sit on your a** all day u definitley wont notice the g sensor problem
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souljaboy said:
True if ya sit on your a** all day u definitley wont notice the g sensor problem
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It's obvious you have not tried a recent one
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Rubbish, I've been using NexusHD2 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=793924 it's actively developed and updated and hastarin 8.5.1 isn't exactly outdated.
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Thanks... Im gonna give this one a shot right now. 8.5.1 does have the latest TS fix so that should be taken care of.
THANKS!
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I don't know if you have noticed but over the last few months folks have really gotten a bit over the top with the sarcasm in response to questions, almost to the point where it is insulting in some cases. I have seen this more and more. My initial thought when reading your reply WITHOUT the title line was here was more sarcasm. So again, I apologize and thanks for your response.
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There was definite sarcasm, so I can apologize for that. Not at the level of some of the other people here get to. People have been getting extremely venomous and I was just trying to do a quick chuckle thing. Anyway, you should expect to see a lot more stock android builds soon because I'm sure there will be a flood of gingerbread options over the next few days.