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**DO NOT POST ANYTHING IN THIS THREAD AT ALL, PLEASE READ THREAD, THEN INSTRUCTIONS** PLEASE READ AT LEAST ONCE, THEN DECIDE IF YOU WILL HELP OR NOT.
Do to the success of the "General PPC Question" thread at the top of this page, and the amount of members, from noob to seniors, that are willing to support any cause that will stop unnessicary posts, I have created this.
This is a work in progress, but here is the concept. This thread will list every imaginable question you can think of , that may be asked by a nooby, or any member, and give the best possible answer. There is no other thread like this, and it will need help from all of you genius members.
In here will be the answers to question such as,
*What is a ROM
*What is G.U.I. or Graphical User Interface?
*What is MortScript?
This may seem unnessicary, but it's not. This is the most popular section in this forum, and will not stop being the bombing ground for every question and thread that hits this site. So why not cut the problem off before it even lands as a new thread. So heres what I need from you.
If there is a TOPIC you would like posted, or if you have the exact answe to a question posted here , please PM me. Put the question you would like to see listed, and the exact answer, and label it , "Question".
Afte a couple of days, this thread should be jam packed with questions and answers.
At least give it a try.
INSTRUCTIONS:
*MAKE NO POST WHAT SO EVER ON THIS THREAD, ALL QUESTIONS WILL HAVE THERE OWN SPECIFIC THREAD AND THREAD NUMBER, AND WILL BE LISTED IN AN OVERALL GLOSSARY FOR EASY FINDING.
*PM ME THE QUESTION (ex: What is a ROM? , What is MortScript?) FOLLOWED BY THE EXACT ANSWER. NO GUESS OR YOUR EXPLANATION. TRY TO WORD IT WHERE IT CAN BE UNDESTOOD FROM A NOOBY POINT OF VIEW, AND MAKE SURE IT IS RIGHT. THE SIMPLEST QUESTION YOU CAN THINK OF MAY BE THE HARDEST FOR NEW USER, SO USE YOUR IMAGINATION.
*LABEL THE PM, QUESTION FOR NEW THREAD
*I WILL DO THE REST, AND THIS WILL BE UP AND RUNNING WITHING 48 HOURS AND JAM PACKED WITH HELP FOR EVERYONE.
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE, Give this a try. No one thought the General PPC Question Thread would help or make a difference either, but look at how it is growing. So at least give it a try. The worst that could happen is you help some noob with an answer, and stop a thread from starting to find out what a rom is!
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*1)general Ppc Terms & Definitions
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General Ppc Terms & Definitons
*ROM::: ROM (Read Only Memory) stores critical information which is neccisary to boot the system. It aslo contains predefined programs which cannot be removed. The ROM retains its contents even when the system is turned off , or goes thru a reset.
*RAM::: RAM (Random Access Memory) is the available memory used to run an application or program.
*HARD RESET::: Used to return a PPC/PDA to factory settings. This operation deletes any and all information/applications installed by the user.
*SOFT RESET::: Used to stop all running applications. This feature is most often used to stop programs which are not running properly or when a device is locked up. This feature can also be used to put into effect any changes made to the device.
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sorry to break your post..but all of which you are posting is already In the FAQ here plus alot more
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=FAQ
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sorry to break your post..but all of which you are posting is already In the FAQ here plus alot more
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=FAQ
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I agree. I mean, congratulations on your stickied post - it's already helped me and a lot of others but isn't this a little extreme? It seems that you want to condense the entire forum into one thread. People would be searching within your thread rather than within the forum...
This thread is a decent idea and commendably well intentioned, but I tend to agree that the Wiki is the place for this.
However, this begs the question as to whether the Wiki is included in the standard search facility. If it's not, it may explain why some users claim to have searched but failed to find the answer. Equally, if it's not, perhaps it should be, if technically feasible.
The issue seems to be around the simplistic and repetitive nature of some queries. I see three main underling causes:
- People come here looking for help because they have exhausted other avenues, however basic those avenues may be. There is an inevitability to some people approaching this in a clumsy fashion and there isn't much we can do about it other then close the site or accept it. A little gentle education can help too - we all started somewhere and we have all probably made the same mistakes at times!
- Failure to search; this is inexcusable but inevitable and there isn't much we can do about it. No matter how accessible the information is made, if you are lazy, scared, in a hurry...or possibly just stupid, they will not find it
- Efficiency of the search tool. Can't comment overly, but it does sometimes seem like feast or famine in that one either gets too many hits to be useful or too few. Is there anything that can be done to make the search tool more intelligent, search more widely, or more specific about what it has found and where, e.g. 'this' from the Wiki, 'this' from the Forums, etc?
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This thread is a decent idea and commendably well intentioned, but I tend to agree that the Wiki is the place for this.
However, this begs the question as to whether the Wiki is included in the standard search facility. If it's not, it may explain why some users claim to have searched but failed to find the answer. Equally, if it's not, perhaps it should be, if technically feasible.
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The wiki is included if you use google
searching... said:
E.G.1. Prophet Recovery site:xda-developers.com
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E.G.2. Prophet Recovery site:wiki.xda-developers.com
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The issue seems to be around the simplistic and repetitive nature of some queries. I see three main underling causes:
- People come here looking for help because they have exhausted other avenues, however basic those avenues may be. There is an inevitability to some people approaching this in a clumsy fashion and there isn't much we can do about it other then close the site or accept it. A little gentle education can help too - we all started somewhere and we have all probably made the same mistakes at times!
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The first few times it is acceptable, but when the question has already been asked and answered, it gets boring for everyone, and just clogs up the forum with avoidable clutter.
- Failure to search; this is inexcusable but inevitable and there isn't much we can do about it. No matter how accessible the information is made, if you are lazy, scared, in a hurry...or possibly just stupid, they will not find it
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Somewhere with info (such as the wiki) will at least reduce peoples time wasting...
I think this thread is a little too far, but there are alternative systems (the wiki for example) that will be easier to use...
you know there's also an encyclopedia at the bottom of the forum? Its a bit dated but has the fundamentals
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you know there's also an encyclopedia at the bottom of the forum? Its a bit dated but has the fundamentals
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No one notices that, and there is not much new information...
These threads are a great idea, but I think it would be a better idea to make a forum specifically for questions, and nothing BUT questions.
Okay I have been on this forum for a few months now and I still consider my self a noob it seems as though that magical search feature that everyone demands us noobs use is not too noob friendly and to prove this I documented my frustration when trying to get this nandroid thingy to work.
Supposed noob thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3816278&postcount=3
EDIT: I am 99.9% sure this will work with a PVT board. I am not sure about DVT BUT if you are willing to risk bricking your G1 to find out, that would be great Reboot in fastboot and make sure it says "DREA100 PVT"
First of all what the hell is a PVT board? And what the hell is fastboot??? UHh wait I have to do another search on this stupid PVT board and this stupid fastboot. Searching…..
Searched for fastboot here is what came up:
http://www.google.com/cse?cx=000825...boot+&sa=Search&cof=FORID:0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
After clicking several search results there is not one single post that defines exactly what fastboot is or specifically what it does.
Searching for PVT Board……
And the results were: http://www.google.com/custom?hl=en&...G=Search&cx=000825531964825142534:cqr2sjirilw
Not one single related post that clearly states what a PVT Board really is. Okay that’s out the window, maybe I can figure it out by reading how people are talking about it. Fun stuff. Unable to decypther what the hell people are talking about, NEXT search!
Okay now I want to find out what the hell a nandroid backup is.
Searching Nandroid…
Wow First success!! First result takes me to this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=459830
Oh no not again more words to search!!
Okay I see two strange words I do not know Busybox (wtf?) and adbd.
Searching Busybox….
http://www.google.com/cse?cx=000825...sybox&sa=Search&cof=FORID:0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
Results are not clear, just links me to some posts that have some RC30 release (is the RC30 busybox? That is still not clear. Other results refer to it as some kind of back up tool, I thought the nandroid was a backup tool? SO that goes out the door Next search adbd….
Searching adbd..... Nothing that directly defines what exactly adbd is, all I got was people talking about it but never directly referencing exactly what it is ( ex: “need some questions answered about adbd and debuggerd Dream android development.” Or “restarting adbd as root”) Maybe it stands for a dumb big day? God knows.
Okay back to the original Nandroid post because its really important that a noob does a back up just incase right?………
I decided to go ahead and proceed without knowing what those two words were (of course I’ll get yelled at by everyone for not searching if I make a post asking what they meant so no point in posting).
Oh this is probably my favorite part of the post!!!
LOL the easy part!!!-* How to use this (the easy part)
And below it is this sentence:
“Just boot your phone in recovery mode with the correct recovery.img (one that has adb shell as root + busybox installed with symlinks to tar, md5sum etc) and connect it to your pc/laptop/server. Then run the nandroid.sh script. If something is wrong or missing, it will tell you. “
So lets break down this sentince (as a noob) line by line.
1st line: Just boot your phone in recovery mode with the correct recovery.img
Recovery mode? I think that is the pressing of the HOME+END key or is it the END+CAM keys? Which do you mean????? My guess is the HOME+END.
2nd line: (one that has adb shell as root + busybox installed with symlinks to tar, md5sum etc) WOA dude what planet you on?!! This entire line makes no freakin sense to me. And I do not think searching will help us there. “one that has adb shell as root” WTF is the one that has adb shell???? And wtf is adb??? And symlinks to tar? Is that encrypted language for his secret lover to find him? Geez how is anyone supposed to learn by searching stuff like this?? Okay at this point im just about to give up on this whole damn back up and just live without it, next line….
3rd line: Then run the nandroid.sh script. If something is wrong or missing, it will tell you.
Umm HOW? How do I run the nandroid.sh script and on WHAT operating system? Mac, Windows, Linux??? The only thing wrong or missing is proper Instructions and good English course!!!
If you are going to post a tutorial please don’t assume that everyone knows what your talking about and skip over steps that you think are elementary when in-fact you will discover that sometimes not everyone knows what you are talking about.
BTW I found this tutorial here (where supposedly 95% of my questions are answered….. umm sure): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=519523
Isnt this article supposedly posted to be in the pre-reading material before a noob posts questions?
This is not the only article that I found not to be noob friendly, in-fact I found very little articles that were noob friendly, here is yet another thread that I found to be rediculy confusing: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=512453
When I first went to this thread (before knowing what WIPE meant) I was like WTF is this guy crazy. Then he goes on to talk about some crazy loop (which he does not state how or where you get this mysterious loop) then he goes and pasts some code that god knows where the hell your supposed to paste it, on the phone in the command prompt or is it only in the mac????
There are soo many more threads like the ones above. It is no wonder why noobs post the same questions over and over again, its because people assume that everyone else knows what their talking about and skip what they think are useless 2 or 3 steps, well I got news for you buddy, those silly 2 or 3 steps are probably the most important steps to beginner. I am still fairly new to this forum and still am having trouble figuring out what people are talking about. I just wish that there were some kind of rules or guidelines when writing instructions or how-to guides. The ONLY guide on this entire forum that I found to be clearly written and total noob proof is this thread here:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=502010 Everyone should take a few pointers from this person that wrote that thread, although he never stated the purpose of it at the start but that’s minor.
Sorry if I offended anyone but this is the ugly truth for us noobs, it really is hard when your first starting out and some one bashes you for asking a question that’s been asked before or the noob didn’t search. Well the search feature is not exactly that great and you almost always do not find the answer to that one noob question. And yes I am very grateful for all these great hacks and I am just posting this just out of frustration from having to constantly search and after having spent hours searching and searching. I am almost certain that I am not the only noob with this problem.
My next journey is Themes my G1 phone (God help me).
Thanks,
Abe
well the essential problem is that there will always be more noobs than not...no matter how many tutorials and guides that are posted it still will not be enough for some noobs...i did not know what i was doing myself but you first you have to understand what you are reading. so after a while after reading and searching the internet i understand what i am doing and am continuing to learn...this place was not meant to be a place for exacting directions and tutorials (ala development for Dummies)...
And i do not mean anything as an insult...i am just trying to explain that this is not an organized affair with a specific hierarchy, it is a community of developers experimenting and passing that knowledge off to others in the community.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=519523
that link is from the first or second thread on the development section...reading through those will give you a lot of the answers your looking for....
and to be honest if you do not have a clue as to what the stuff your reading is then research the internet...otherwise you definitely should not attempt any of this stuff.
All I will say Is I managed to root my phone by reading multiple threads.
I actually started reading threads before I got my phone . It was confusing but thats why I kept reading . If i didnt understand something I would read over and over again. As far as finding out what busybox was I used regular old google search for that . Heres what i found based on that search.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BusyBox.
I have learned to not soley rely on the in forum search because it doesnt always seem that helpful. I think overall what the vets what is for the "noobs" to help themselves first before having someone hold their hand.
It is pretty ironic that you bought a phone featuring Google search and now want to hack it, and instead of taking time to actually learn searching techniques you write a page long rant on your incapability to do some simple research. If you cannot figure out what some of these basic terms mean, then you shouldn't be hacking your phone in the first place.
Also, what in the hell are you talking about? You say that we are asking you to search first, hello? You only have ONE post in our community, you haven't asked us ANYTHING.
Honestly, this forum is already very organized. Granted, you are a noob, but really, it isn't all that difficult. If there is something you just really can't figure out, ask it now, I would be happy to answer it for you.
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It is pretty ironic that you bought a phone featuring Google search and now want to hack it, and instead of taking time to actually learn searching techniques you write a page long rant on your incapability to do some simple research. If you cannot figure out what some of these basic terms mean, then you shouldn't be hacking your phone in the first place.
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Take it easy, man. What's basic for one person may be quantum theory for another. Everyone isn't the same-we all perceive and learn differently. The noobs are tired of senior members telling them to search, and the senior members are tired of noobs asking redundant questions.
Also, what in the hell are you talking about? You say that we are asking you to search first, hello? You only have ONE post in our community, you haven't asked us ANYTHING.
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I think he means other noobs have been told to search when asking a question...
Anyway, OP:
the forums are huge and contain a boatload of information. If you don't understand a tutorial or certain terms, ASK. PM the OP of the tutorial or someone in the thread that sounds like they know what they are saying. Follow devs on twitter, and read extensively. Get involved.
You have to understand that there have been hundreds of noobs that only come here to ask "OMG HOW DO I ROOT??" without wanting to understand ANY underlying details. They get caught in a bootloop, get errors, or brick their phone because they don't follow directions and they want to hold devs responsible.
These people want the easy way out, so don't be surprised if senior members and devs here are hesitant in replying to a thread that has been started countless times before. Also, every one here has a life (almost everyone ), so they may not always be available 24/7 to answer unimportant (to them) questions.
I've been with this forum for little over a year now and search function may not be the best but does help a lot. I've started out with the dash, mda, tilt and now the g1. i've just been recently been posting because everything everyone does here is great. I still consider myself a noob and still learning. Ranting like this doesn't really help, spoon feeding noobs gets tiresome and i can see why the seniors gets frustrated. All you need is the patients to read thru the posts and not get blown away with all the lingo and information overload that gets yourself more confused.
This is a community built by the community no one expects to get payed for helping out, so be thankful for what this forum bring. [/rant]
I don't see whats hard about this forum.
I just followed the guides and I was set.
This is a DEVELOPER forum, so I expect it will be a little difficult to use
You don't take physics before taking elementary school math.
That's the way I look at.
But I partially share your thoughts.
I am the first to agree that a search button or Google are your best friends.
What makes a successful search, though, is your choice or keywords or phrases. And I've run into those times that had I known the proper combination of terms to use (one's that would weed-out the bizillion of results that don't relate), I would have easily found the proper answer. I've gotten buried in search results that lead to endless threads only to find out that the Google search I did for "Android Bluetooth Cupcake" might have been better had I narrowed it further with "Android Bluetooth +"File Transfer" +application". That was probably a poor example, but you know what I mean. Searching for broad and common terms usually turns up useless results, we give up in disgust, and that's when some of the redundant posts get made. I also continue to have trouble decided whether a post belongs in the "Dream" forum or the developer forum. And we won't even go into whether they belong in the developer forum, app forum or theme forum. To me, they all cross similar boundaries at times.
There are lots of other forums that are intended for end-users with technical questions. They break things down in easier to understand terms (at least for me). Most of them link to XDA for the downloads, but they offer support on their own forums. I frequent XDA the most, but I still haunt the ubber-newbie sites as well. I still learn from them.
One last thing... It's been said that the internet is akind to the wild, wild west. Forums and mailing lists are usually the worst. If there wasn't some type of moderation/control over XDA, there would be telling how deep we would have to wade to find one meaningful post. I'm as guilty as the next person of wanting immediate answers when I think I've ruined a $400 phone. Luckily, I think the rescue tutorials here are fairly good at outlining the needed steps. No, they may not explain what's happening with each step along the way... but they do give you the necessary steps to get you out a bind. If you'll remain calm, follow the steps, not expect your hand to be held during the process, and only resort to asking for help when all else fails, you'll probably get your phone working the way you want it AND learn along the way. It's the equivalent of junior high vs a college or university. Once you make a conscious choice to go beyond what's required, you're expected to do a lot of the work yourself without the teacher constantly having to offer a refresher course on the basics.
Just my opinion.
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Hi everyone.
I'd like to start out by saying that most of you don't know me as I haven't done anything (yet) to help the community. However, in an effort to contribute something I'm proposing that I will help to keep the wiki up to date. I have learned most of the syntax to MediaWiki and have gone through and cleaned up our section. I believe the wiki idea is an awesome (and easy) way to find info as it is needed. I have really been enjoying editing the wiki and hope you guys will help me by letting me know when your ROMs are updated so I can update the wiki. Keep in mind that it is still open for anyone to edit and that I'm not asking for a "Wiki Mod" type of position, I just want to help. If you have anything you want posted to the wiki and don't want to do it yourself, my gmail is mbobino(at)gmail.com, or you can send me a PM and I'll update it as soon as possible.
Here's a link for anyone who wants it:Hero CDMA Wiki
I didn't see what it looked like before, but it looks good.
Nice job
Looks damn good and clean. Keep it up buddy.
Great job!!
The only things I can think of that should be added are more Guides:
-How to adb (I know someone wrote a thread somewhere but can't find it atm)
-How to use adb to remove Sprint Nascar, Stocks, etc.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=581635 and http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=581976
-How to boot into recovery/do stuff in recovery/nandroid
BTW this needs to be stickied or posted as an announcement in all subforums (General, Q&A, Development, Themes) because much too often I've seen the same question asked 10 times/week...
glad someone is doing it finally.
Thanks for all the support guys.
I'm working on adding more guides tonight. I'll write up an in depth guide on ADB. I don't think one has been done to the extent I have in mind.
Apparently I can't post in developer threads and I don't have time to make 10 posts right now so this is going here. I have a rooted s5 and there are a couple of things I would like to do that I have been unable to figure out thus far.
1) I use google hangouts, unlike messaging, hangouts doesn't show text messages on your lock screen. Has anyone been able to find a way to make hangouts do that as of yet? If so, how?
2) Has anyone been able to give the fingerprint scanner a better lockout feature? The scanner can be iffy at times and I hate being locked out from doing anything for 30 seconds every time I screw it up. I'm looking to get it to do more like apple, where after a certain number of attempts you have to enter your password.
Thanks guys
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Apparently I can't post in developer threads and I don't have time to make 10 posts right now so this is going here. I have a rooted s5 and there are a couple of things I would like to do that I have been unable to figure out thus far.
1) I use google hangouts, unlike messaging, hangouts doesn't show text messages on your lock screen. Has anyone been able to find a way to make hangouts do that as of yet? If so, how?
2) Has anyone been able to give the fingerprint scanner a better lockout feature? The scanner can be iffy at times and I hate being locked out from doing anything for 30 seconds every time I screw it up. I'm looking to get it to do more like apple, where after a certain number of attempts you have to enter your password.
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I will try to answer your questions:
1. I don't think hangouts can do that. Try using lockscreen notification apps like Dashnotifier.
2. Fingerprint sensor acts weird sometimes. You have to bear with it. Although an update to lollipop will make it quite better
Give a thanks if I have helped you!
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This doesn't belong in development sections. It belongs in Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting. FYI. :good:
I believe it fits in developers means neither of these are options to change and I would like to use root access to change the code in the phone to allow it.
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I believe it fits in developers means neither of these are options to change and I would like to use root access to change the code in the phone to allow it.
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it does not, your asking a question so it belongs in O&A section
You're not allowed to discuss development of apps and functions in the developers section? That's strange.
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You're not allowed to discuss development of apps and functions in the developers section? That's strange.
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Yea "Discuss" development
If you have a Question, you ask in the Q&A forum
There is a big difference between discussing something, and asking questions
"Discuss" = Understand, converse, and help with
"Question" = Do not understand, and can not help with, thus, needs to be in Q&A
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Yea "Discuss" development
If you have a Question, you ask in the Q&A forum
There is a big difference between discussing something, and asking questions
"Discuss" = Understand, converse, and help with
"Question" = Do not understand, and can not help with, thus, needs to be in Q&A
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Ok, let's try it this way. I do understand. But if somebody has made something to change these features there is no reason for me to do anything. If not, I would like to discuss possible options on how to do this. Does this work for you? Or are you going to continue to argue this?
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Ok, let's try it this way. I do understand. But if somebody has made something to change these features there is no reason for me to do anything. If not, I would like to discuss possible options on how to do this. Does this work for you? Or are you going to continue to argue this?
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I think you need to wind your neck in kiddo, new to the forums and talking back to senior members will not do you any favours,
Now, you were wrong, you were corrected, accept it and man up by moving on, stop acting like a child by trying to have the last word
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2340983
Only the following topics are allowed in DEVELOPMENT area:
[DEV] - Development for any special projects or Apps
[ROM] - Custom ROMs
[KERNEL] - Custom Kernels (usually found in Original Development)
[MOD] - Hack & Modifications for the phone with code only, zips go in themes and apps
[FIX] - Fixes for known issues & bugs
[R&D] - Research & Development for Devs only, when gathering data for a new projects
[HOWTO] / [GUIDE] - How to instructions and Guides (Most of the time should be in General)
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All I am trying to say is that I think this fits in developers section, actually under that mod section you just quoted. I would like to edit the code of this phone to allow me to have these features.
And I would appreciate it if you didn't treat every new member on here like some bumbling idiot. 'accept it and man up by moving on, stop acting like a child by trying to have the last word.' Considering the last post's definition of posts for the developer's section had exactly what this post is intended to be under "mod" I'm just pointing out that it fits there.
We've had a reasonable answer to the questions at post one, given in post two.
The conversation has moved on to what is appropriate to post in "development" forums and this can't really go anywhere as both sides have made their cases known very clearly.
For the record, the current position is that Development forums are mainly for development that has actually started and developers are involved, it is not for discusion of hypothetical development and "wouldn't it be nice if...." type discussions. Occasionally developers might discuss a matter in advance of more detailed scripting/coding, but for it to go in "development" it would need to be a developer level technical discussion not a wish list of things in the hope a developer might get involved.
Mike
I've been reading through all the threads, but I've yet to find or get a single answer to any of my questions.
1. Can stock users on Nougat root phone? I'm on A2017U
2. If so what is the exact process? and I mean EXACT process!
Simple 2 questions. I'm tired of sorta descriptions. I'm not good with phones so I need straight up, barney style, cut and dry.
1 sure
2 follow the guide
If you have questions about the guide, ask in that thread.
OK let's rephrase because apparently you don't realize I wouldn't be writing this if I had done that and it worked. Also "sure" to my no. 1 doesn't make me feel better. I need a definite answer as in someone has done it. Also, again, I went through multiple threads, asked questions, and none got answers. I was completely ignored. So unless you can make a nice clean list for me, don't tell me something I've obviously done already. Thank you.
How should I know what you have done already?
Take the time to make a proper post, explaining what you have done and what is going wrong and you will get a better answer.
I haven't done anything with the phone yet. Haven't been able to. Every post I've read gives a link to another post for something else that needs to be done before you can do what the previous post stated you can do. It's utterly confusing. What I'm asking for is a list from start to finish of what needs to be done without being linked all over the place. My head is all over the place right now because not a single OP says this is the absolute first step before you can do anything with the phone. I thought I had it all down and then out of nowhere I find out before you can install LOS you need the universal bootloader flashed. Now I'm back to square 1 trying to figure out what steps go where. Honestly my first post was pretty proper in my request, but for some reason people assume that I haven't read anything. I stated clearly what device I'm on and that I hadn't done any steps yet. I don't know how much more specific I can be.
So again, which guide are you wanting to use and what is your question?
LOS has nothing to do with getting your phone unlocked and twrp installed, try to stay focused.
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So again, which guide are you wanting to use and what is your question?
LOS has nothing to do with getting your phone unlocked and twrp installed, try to stay focused.
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There isn't a guide that answers my questions which is why I asked here. There isn't a single thread that clearly states the axon 7 can be rooted from stock nougat. That's the first thing I want to do. Root, twrp, rom.
update: I read, from a previous reply of yours to someone attempting to do what I'm doing, that they need to flash an unlock zip before doing the fastboot oem unlock. I saw a thread that had multiple unlock zips. which one should I use?
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This was what I was referring to when I said that I've been hopping from one thread to another just to try and find basic information. I've had plenty of other phones rooted, but by far doing that with this phone is a pain in the arse. There needs to be a single thread that compiles all of the information into a single guide for each phone so people like me aren't losing it reading thousands of replies trying to find out what we can and can't do.
I wouldn't help this guy. Very ignorant posts.
The easiest would be this method.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/axon-7/development/edl-emergency-dl-mode-twrp-unlock-t3553514
Choose the package that matches your current system - Bxx_TWRP . There's some redundancy in what it flashes, but that's ok. When done, you'll have twrp along with the fastboot that permits BL unlocking. *You still have to actually unlock the bootloader from fastboot.
FASTBOOT_UNLOCK package will only allow you to unlock the bootloader (pursuant to the above requirement*). You'll then need to manual flash the recovery of your choice .
Once twrp is in place, flash supersu 2.79.
If this is too complicated, promptly return the phone or continue to use in its current state.
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I wouldn't help this guy. Very ignorant posts.
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And you're reply is ignorant in itself. If you've got nothing to say that's constructive and only place judgement then go elsewhere. I'm tired of everyone on this forum and their ego. Take a step back and think for a minute that not everyone is like you. I asked 2 simple questions and this is the response I get. Try to understand, for once, where other people come from when it comes to understanding things in the threads techies post. I nicely asked in most of those threads multiple times for help and I got no answers or replies like yours instead of just simplifying it for me by telling me what comes first when trying to root the phone.
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The easiest would be this method.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/axon-7/development/edl-emergency-dl-mode-twrp-unlock-t3553514
Choose the package that matches your current system - Bxx_TWRP . There's some redundancy in what it flashes, but that's ok. When done, you'll have twrp along with the fastboot that permits BL unlocking. *You still have to actually unlock the bootloader from fastboot.
FASTBOOT_UNLOCK package will only allow you to unlock the bootloader (pursuant to the above requirement*). You'll then need to manual flash the recovery of your choice .
Once twrp is in place, flash supersu 2.79.
If this is too complicated, promptly return the phone or continue to use in its current state.
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Thank you for putting an order to the process. That's all I was requesting, but it seemed my request was a bit complicated to understand for most and is apparently ignorant to ask for simplification. I'll do what's written and hope all goes well.
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And you're reply is ignorant in itself. If you've got nothing to say that's constructive and only place judgement then go elsewhere. I'm tired of everyone on this forum and their ego. Take a step back and think for a minute that not everyone is like you. I asked 2 simple questions and this is the response I get. Try to understand, for once, where other people come from when it comes to understanding things in the threads techies post. I nicely asked in most of those threads multiple times for help and I got no answers or replies like yours instead of just simplifying it for me by telling me what comes first when trying to root the phone.
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I was just questioning the way you were demanding help. Nobody here is obligated to teach someone how to do things. We do it out our kindness of our hearts. Wanting to share information with individuals that are lost. When I rooted my phone and unlock the bootloader I did the research and I asked questions at the same time. I tried to get this figured out with the great help from XDA. You on the other hand are trying to demand someone to give you a step by step tutorial on how to get this done. I think that's the wrong approach of doing things, when you're asking for help. But then again everyone is different and you might feel some kind of entitlement in XDA! Just my honest opinion.
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I was just questioning the way you were demanding help. Nobody here is obligated to teach someone how to do things. We do it out our kindness of our hearts. Wanting to share information with individuals that are lost. When I rooted my phone and unlock the bootloader I did the research and I asked questions at the same time. I tried to get this figured out with the great help from XDA. You on the other hand are trying to demand someone to give you a step by step tutorial on how to get this done. I think that's the wrong approach of doing things, when you're asking for help. But then again everyone is different and you might feel some kind of entitlement in XDA! Just my honest opinion.
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If you had read my first post you would've seen that I had read many posts AND asked questions, but got no answers. I guess you didn't read that part even when I stated it 3 different times. I am quite thankful for those who do this out of the kindness of their hearts, but when you don't even read and understand my post and go off calling someone ignorant, what does that make you? I've participated in 10 different threads, talking with people just like me who had the same issues, asking the same questions, and....for the who knows how many times, got no answers or responses like yours who don't even read the post and place some halfhearted judgment like you're high and mighty. Nowhere in my post did I demand anything. You can construe my English however you want, but learn to read and understand before lashing out at someone without even so much as giving any advice yourself. Good day
Edit: The person who actually decided to give some helpful tips was the first and ONLY person to actually say something that made sense. Now because of him I'm currently booted and setting up LOS with su permissions. I even apologized to him for coming off like an ass, but you don't deserve that.
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If you had read my first post you would've seen that I had read many posts AND asked questions, but got no answers. I guess you didn't read that part even when I stated it 3 different times. I am quite thankful for those who do this out of the kindness of their hearts, but when you don't even read and understand my post and go off calling someone ignorant, what does that make you? I've participated in 10 different threads, talking with people just like me who had the same issues, asking the same questions, and....for the who knows how many times, got no answers or responses like yours who don't even read the post and place some halfhearted judgment like you're high and mighty. Nowhere in my post did I demand anything. You can construe my English however you want, but learn to read and understand before lashing out at someone without even so much as giving any advice yourself. Good day
Edit: The person who actually decided to give some helpful tips was the first and ONLY person to actually say something that made sense. Now because of him I'm currently booted and setting up LOS with su permissions. I even apologized to him for coming off like an ass, but you don't deserve that.
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Well you might of answered the issue yourself. On why you haven't received much help. It must be an issue with the way you communicate with your posts. I am just saying you might need to look in the mirror. Rather than blaming people here for not helping you.
I'll keep on saying this as much as I need to, I get where you're coming from. There's a lot of data about the correct way of doing things. Best thing to do is read and search. When I got my phone B29 was the new hotness and there was a bunch of older data floating around that I had to sift through. But I did it, I sifted and found my own way and combined two different methods to get my phone rooted and flashed with LOS. Honestly, the trial and error, the searching, the sifting is totally worthwhile because while this device is /DIFFERENT/ compared to methods for HTC and Samsung products, it's not harder. It's better to get yourself properly antiquated to the device you plan on flashing/hacking/rooting because there is /always/ a chance for bricking. Then another thread will be created asking for help to unbrick. Take the time, read now, read everything, understand your device, then push forward.