Hello all,
My X10 has a few strange problems regarding freezes and reboots, and also problems with USB connections.
When my I applie pressure to my phone, it reboots. This also happens when I slightly bend my phone. It's a strange problem and I think (almost know for sure) it's hardware related because it happens in two custom roms (freexperia beta 4 by Zdzihu, and Achotjan_Froyo_2.2.1) and also in xrecovery.
The other problem I have has to do with my USB connection.
When i connect my phone to my pc. there is no notification and it doesn't connect to my PC. in contrast to other x10's that have USB connection problems (I've searched other threads) charging is still completely normal.
That's why I think the USB connection is software related
I was wondering if somebody has something usefull to say about either one of the issues, thats why I'm posting.
So if anyone has any idea feel free to post
...Life sucks?.... new phone maybe?
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Don't bend it?
It sounds like a bad or lose connection some where on the motherboard. Has your phone had any hard impacts?
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How are you bending the phone?
http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/04/flexible-paperphone-wants-to-get-bent-out-of-shape-video/
kxhawkins said:
Don't bend it?
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andrewddickey said:
How are you bending the phone?
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I'm not really bending my phone but "trying to bend it"or pressure lets it reboot. this would indeed be not really much of a problem, just don't bend or apply pressure. The problem however is that when I put it in my pocket, the same kind of forces (bending, pressure) will work on it and it'll reboot. this is pretty annoying because each time you'll get your phone out of your pocket it's rebooted or it still hangs.
zax10 said:
It sounds like a bad or lose connection some where on the motherboard. Has your phone had any hard impacts?
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Well yes it has, a car drove over it once but that's was more then a year ago, and it's fallen quite hard sometimes. I've opened it up however, and nothing is visible wrong (loose connections etc.)
Joren90 said:
Well yes it has, a car drove over it once but that's was more then a year ago, and it's fallen quite hard sometimes. I've opened it up however, and nothing is visible wrong (loose connections etc.)
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Seriously???
A car drove over it and it has fallen quite hard sometimes?!
That makes the title of your thread misleading.
You should have mentioned these in the OP.
It's a miracle the phone works!!!
Of course something might be messed up inside
and probably not in a visible to the naked eye way.
If you want to hold on to the phone, maybe buy a hard case,
that will keep the pressure to minimum while in your pocket!
Probably a loose capacitor or resistor...
I'll agree with My_Immortal on that one. A hard case might help you in you situtation. But mate let me say this. From the injuries that your x10 has been through it's a miracle it still works!
Imho you should take better care of your stuff , it's a smartphone for God's shake not a buldozer!
Joren90 said:
I'm not really bending my phone but "trying to bend it"or pressure lets it reboot. this would indeed be not really much of a problem, just don't bend or apply pressure. The problem however is that when I put it in my pocket, the same kind of forces (bending, pressure) will work on it and it'll reboot. this is pretty annoying because each time you'll get your phone out of your pocket it's rebooted or it still hangs.
Well yes it has, a car drove over it once but that's was more then a year ago, and it's fallen quite hard sometimes. I've opened it up however, and nothing is visible wrong (loose connections etc.)
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Words cannot describe how special you are.
Were you holding the phone when the car went over?
Joren90 said:
Well yes it has, a car drove over it once but that's was more then a year ago, and it's fallen quite hard sometimes. I've opened it up however, and nothing is visible wrong (loose connections etc.)
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LMAOOOOOO, funniest thread ever ;D
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My_Immortal said:
Seriously???
A car drove over it and it has fallen quite hard sometimes?!
That makes the title of your thread misleading.
You should have mentioned these in the OP.
It's a miracle the phone works!!!
Of course something might be messed up inside
and probably not in a visible to the naked eye way.
If you want to hold on to the phone, maybe buy a hard case,
that will keep the pressure to minimum while in your pocket!
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Well yes indeed I could've said this.
But why I haven't is because it happened more than a year before these problems started. the bending, pressure problem started quite suddenly out of nowhere, and thus might not be related
(I also think the car didn't do that much damage, my phone lay flat on the road, and the car drove pretty fast (around 50 kph) so the car was actually on the phone for a very short time: less than 9 micro seconds .)
I've started this thread mainly because I thought maybe someone had heard about these kind of problems before and knew something about it.
Joren90 said:
Well yes indeed I could've said this.
But why I haven't is because it happened more than a year before these problems started. the bending, pressure problem started quite suddenly out of nowhere, and thus might not be related
(I also think the car didn't do that much damage, my phone lay flat on the road, and the car drove pretty fast (around 50 kph) so the car was actually on the phone for a very short time: less than 9 micro seconds .)
I've started this thread mainly because I thought maybe someone had heard about these kind of problems before and knew something about it.
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I understand that the car incident was a year ago,
but in my opinion, it's very hard NOT to relate it with your issues.
Of course, there is always the possibility that it has nothing to do with them,
Have you tried using a hard case?
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I understand that the car incident was a year ago,
but in my opinion, it's very hard NOT to relate it with your issues.
Of course, there is always the possibility that it has nothing to do with them,
Have you tried using a hard case?
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should open it and test across the components to see where the drop in voltage occurs, probably a simple resoldering would do the trick!!
fiscidtox said:
should open it and test across the components to see where the drop in voltage occurs, probably a simple resoldering would do the trick!!
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Yeah.. it may just be a simple loose component.
Only solder if.
1. You know what your doing.
2. You have steady hands.
3. you have the right soldering iron "i use a 25W to 80W fine tip"
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Yeah.. it may just be a simple loose component.
Only solder if.
1. You know what your doing.
2. You have steady hands.
3. you have the right soldering iron "i use a 25W to 80W fine tip"
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May I add:
0. You are sober.
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Hi, I'm the proud owner of an ELF(in). I bought it on ebay very cheap because it was in bootloader mode. Thanks to the gold card method I've been using it with no problems at all.
Yesterday I bought another one (ELF), it hangs after 3-5 seconds of power on (bootloader, loading windows, etc). Sometimes the screen just shuts off, sometimes everyting becames green. So, I decided to put it in the refrigerator and see what happens. After 15 minutes I powered it up and it works! I take it out and hangs almost immediately. Is this just a faulty unit? No hope for it? (I don't want to carry my refrigerator everywhere).
If someone has any ideas, I'm listening.
Thanks!
hahaha, i love this post. sorry i'm not able to offer too much help but I had to comment. I know my parents used to freeze batteries to make em last longer. Tried a different one?
Well yeah, I tried soft reset, hard reset, the battery from my working Elfin, etc.
Try the microwave... for two minutes?
There already was a thread about this problem (maybe you bought it) and already then my answer was to take the device apart clean all the dust and dirt inside and give it another shot. I had a nokia with the same problem and when i opened it it was full with dust and fibres from my pants everytime whe put it in our pants there comes a bit of dirt in it and because of the rubbing it acumulates inside the device and it enters in protection-mode (nice word????) because of overheating ate least that was the explanation they gave me when i contacted nokia at the time.........You can't loose anything by trying
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There already was a thread about this problem (maybe you bought it) and already then my answer was to take the device apart clean all the dust and dirt inside and give it another shot. I had a nokia with the same problem and when i opened it it was full with dust and fibres from my pants everytime whe put it in our pants there comes a bit of dirt in it and because of the rubbing it acumulates inside the device and it enters in protection-mode (nice word????) because of overheating ate least that was the explanation they gave me when i contacted nokia at the time.........You can't loose anything by trying
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Haha.. what do you do in your pants?
becosemsaida said:
There already was a thread about this problem (maybe you bought it) and already then my answer was to take the device apart clean all the dust and dirt inside and give it another shot. I had a nokia with the same problem and when i opened it it was full with dust and fibres from my pants everytime whe put it in our pants there comes a bit of dirt in it and because of the rubbing it acumulates inside the device and it enters in protection-mode (nice word????) because of overheating ate least that was the explanation they gave me when i contacted nokia at the time.........You can't loose anything by trying
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I already cleaned up, and still the same. It's clearly an overheating problem, it's been in the refrigerator for a couple of hours and works like a charm. Not very useful though as it's no longer a "portable device"!
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I already cleaned up, and still the same. It's clearly an overheating problem, it's been in the refrigerator for a couple of hours and works like a charm. Not very useful though as it's no longer a "portable device"!
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Just buy one of those mini refrigerators... carry it around on your back (along with a VERY long extension cord) and have your Elfin inside. When you need a snack or need to call, the fridge is always there!
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Just buy one of those mini refrigerators... carry it around on your back (along with a VERY long extension cord) and have your Elfin inside. When you need a snack or need to call, the fridge is always there!
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haha....good to see you (dsixda) pal, still keeping up with the jokes....unlike some of us....oh yeah man...i know i been away...but i jus cudnt pass this one out and seeing you're here as well....
trying to catch up soon on the forum and now i wil have a present from M$ when i come back onboard....6.5 right....lots of questions you can expect from me dsixda...
and for the topic of this thread....this is a very cold case indeed!!!
dsixda said:
Haha.. what do you do in your pants?
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LOL!!!!! what do you can expect man???
Well, I hope you didn't pay much for it. You can always keep it handy for spare parts when you might need some. My first thought was that you might want to try using a different battery, but I see you already tried this.
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haha....good to see you (dsixda) pal, still keeping up with the jokes....unlike some of us....oh yeah man...i know i been away...but i jus cudnt pass this one out and seeing you're here as well....
trying to catch up soon on the forum and now i wil have a present from M$ when i come back onboard....6.5 right....lots of questions you can expect from me dsixda...
and for the topic of this thread....this is a very cold case indeed!!!
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Haha! Where were you man? I was going to throw an S.O.S. out to you last week for XIP porting help
But alas, you disappeared to Guantanamo Bay or somewhere
Is there not a small watch size battery in these devices - Perhaps it needs replacing?
See picture I included at the bottom of the device. I got this picture from the complete disasembly guide in the elf forum.
I knew about people who used the refrigerator to overclock their PCs, but this thing you're doing is amazing!
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Just buy one of those mini refrigerators... carry it around on your back (along with a VERY long extension cord) and have your Elfin inside. When you need a snack or need to call, the fridge is always there!
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I used a small box with ice when I connected it to the PC for rom updating, perhaps I should carry that box. I know it sounds bizarre but it works fine when refrigerated!
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Is there not a small watch size battery in these devices - Perhaps it needs replacing?
See picture I included at the bottom of the device. I got this picture from the complete disasembly guide in the elf forum.
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I disconnected that battery and it works just the same without it!
Any more ideas on how to fix this Elf?
try booting into windows and looking at the cpu speed, if it is normal lower it to the minimum and see if it hangs then.
eitherway, u must try reflashing everypiece of firmware, especially the radio firmware before giving up. (yeah, u might have to put ur laptop in the fridge with the phone )
Try lowering the clock speed with and Overclocking tool. Homescreen ++ gives u temp report. With that u can know if the temp is the real problem.
Liquid Nitrogen is the answer
Fix a fan on it
Haha, how about fixing a computer fan at the back of the pocket pc, it needs cooling.
Maybe the temperature sensor of the ppc has been spoilt, reporting the wrong data to the brain, thus the ppc restarts.
Ok, finally my Elf is working with no crashes at all outside the fridge! I found the solution in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=476152.
Thanks to Firestarter42 for the tip and okti for the mini-tutorial. I think that info should be in Elf's Wiki page.
However! I've got another problem... I've attached a screenshot. Any ideas?
Several minutes of filing the strong steel of the back cover in a proper place will yield you a perfect push pin for that tiny soft reset button under the hood.
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What? Compare yours with the image.
How to use it? Open the lid and use this nib on it to depress the reset button.
is there any mod that allow you to hardreset without braking your hd2 casing?
i use with otterbox defender, and hard reset is a really tiring process, i dont want to drill a hole in my otter and hd2 backcasing
any other workaround?
i meann softreset (the yellow/red button thingie)
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What? Compare yours with the image.
How to use it? Open the lid and use this nib on it to depress the reset button.
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Sorry but im missing something here, why on earth would you want to do this?
aboveluna said:
i meann softreset (the yellow/red button thingie)
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Huh! So that button is known as soft reset? Hmm. Okay, will try to change my post. By the way, I have the same Otterbox. Thinking of drilling a tiny hole for that. Never heard of a 3 finger solution for that (Android have it).
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Sorry but im missing something here, why on earth would you want to do this?
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Never had a dead freezing situation?
Or you know of a 3 finger method?
regarding the 3 finger salute, i ask the same thing just now in a new thread, hope there is any way for this
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Sorry but I don't get the point...
There is an App which performs a Softreset directly from the screen, which works in 90% of the situations. For the remainder I just open the case and use either a paperclip or a toothpick. Even a pencil or ballpen would do.
So I dont see any reason to mutilate my precious HD2. If I'm in a situation, where I dont find any tool at all, then I assume that I will be in such trouble, that a frozen HD2 will be last problem to care about. (situations like being kidnapped by Hannibal Lecter....)
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If the phone is very regularly freezing, then I would look at what is causing the freezing rather than damaging the phone.
Damaging? Mutilate? C'mon ppl you aren't that soft minded! HD2 is a tool not a fetish!
I'm experimenting with the new software and playing with my own code while on the train to work often. So yes, it's freezing a lot for me down to irresponsive hardware buttons. And I know, why and who is at fault, thank you. However, it's still no fun to juggle with the open phone, it's back lid and also with some virtually always available pen or paper clip.
The fact is: "There is no paper clip around when you need it most." (c) Murphy's law.
Ah I see youve change the title now from "hard" to "soft" that makes a bit more sense but still cant really see any point in this. Infact is bloody useless, why on earth any sane person would want to carve a hold into their HD2 casing instead of just removing back and replacing battery is beyond me.
There is no mention of a reset by battery removal method in the user's manual. And there is a reason for that. Any sane person knowing a little about computer electronics must consider it a dangerous approach.
flimsy battery pins are a pretty good reason not to pull the battery on a regular basis.....
its possible to fit half a cocktail stick inside the back cover, on the patch of foam that rests on the battery for a handy environmentally friendly reset solution.
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You mean "hole"? That's a different topic actually. But I can answer: buy yourself an Otterbox defender - you'll understand.
halx said:
There is no mention of a reset by battery removal method in the user's manual. And there is a reason for that. Any sane person knowing a little about computer electronics must consider it a dangerous approach.
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lolwut...
I know nothing, my phone is stock, and the battery was popped out 5+ times a day until I added some XDA magic.
Apparently you burn a spliff (everyone in n.cal is baked amirite?) and then spend waaaaay too much time overthinking this whole thing.
There is NO way any sane (sober) person would intentionally corrupt the pure and mathematically correct lines of the HD2...even the extended battery makes me ill.
Compared to the new phones, the HD2 is by far still the sleekest of them all.
no offense but wtf?
P.S. and I do luves me some ganny heady nuggz yo!
-_-
conantroutman said:
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Tried that, but the lid is so tight that when it pops open everything what's inside tends to fly away.
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Tried that, but the lid is so tight that when it pops open everything what's inside tends to fly away.
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lol, "fly away"?
oh lord, you are baaaaaked...
kidrythm said:
no offense but wtf?
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I don't quite understand your street slang, bro, but you sound like a "Generation P" kid (Phone Lickers). I'm tailoring tools to my needs, not licking them.
The situation was that I was standing with my phone out and my friend hits my arm and my phone dropped and hit the ground and my vibration no longer works. I've tried the Hard Reset and it didn't work. I'm thinking that the problem is a hardware issue, so if anyone can tell me how to fix it, I would be really appreciative.
Thanks!
You dropped it...there is a good chance of "it's borked". There is no magic fix for a dropped and busted phone--either open it up and look, or get a new one.
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You dropped it...there is a good chance of "it's borked". There is no magic fix for a dropped and busted phone--either open it up and look, or get a new one.
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Or live without the vibration not a deal breaker for me. Better than having to go buy a new one
Yeah if the phone still works forget the vibration. Its not that important
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open it up and check the cables by the vibration unit.
I'm not sure exactly where its at but you should see it somewhere.
I would guess there a little detachable cable that popped loose when it was dropped.
Taken apart every cell phone i've had and I've noticed they've have all had a detachable cable connected to the vibrator.
I'd be surprised if it required any soldering at all.
Refer to some pictures posted in the "Correct Hardware GPS Fix" thread in the general forum.
It has some pics of the vibrant disassembled and you may be able to locate the vibrator from that.
The phone is surprisingly simple to take apart. The thread also tells you how to do it.
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open it up and check the cables by the vibration unit.
I'm not sure exactly where its at but you should see it somewhere.
I would guess there a little detachable cable that popped loose when it was dropped.
Taken apart every cell phone i've had and I've noticed they've have all had a detachable cable connected to the vibrator.
I'd be surprised if it required any soldering at all.
Refer to some pictures posted in the "Correct Hardware GPS Fix" thread in the general forum.
It has some pics of the vibrant disassembled and you may be able to locate the vibrator from that.
The phone is surprisingly simple to take apart. The thread also tells you how to do it.
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I'm in the same boat as the OP--thanks. I'll try this.
OP, did you try the recommendations? did they fix your vibration issue?
I'm in the same situation rn and mom said me to just try that hard reset but you tried it so yeah it won't work so ig that I'll just try to open it as that dude said and I hope that it will work,!
So, as we all know, some OPO's have touch issues. Many are because of software and many are because of hardware. My OPO suffers from both, and here are two screencasts as proof. I muted the sound with Movie Maker since it's not relevant to what I'm showing you.
The phone is lying flat on my desk and I start off by adding one finger from my right hand, then another finger. Then I add a third finger from my left hand and start moving it around as you can see in the videos, all while keeping my right hand fingers perfectly still. Without a charger or USB connected (to my computer), the touch is crazy. With a charger or USB, the touch is perfectly fine. This is with the latest touch firmware, might I add, and the touch was just the same with the previous versions. Definitely a hardware error (grounding?).
Touch without charger or USB:
Touch with charger or USB:
That's is interesting mate, that's quite a find tbh, would charging and not charging be a bug in the firmware....
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Just had a go myself. I get the issue after using 5-6 fingers, more so when the device is flat (odd). When I charge the phone and do the test it is gone completely. Only difference in my situation is that it doesn't crop up when I'm typing, I don't suffer from ghost swipes etc when doing normal browsing or playing games. It functions as good as my M7 until I start to use 5+ fingers on the screen
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That's is interesting mate, that's quite a find tbh, would charging and not charging be a bug in the firmware....
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No idea, tbh. It seems that the ghost swipes are gone with the latest firmware and that I can type quickly. Seemingly so after directly booting the phone up, at least. My OPO lies shutdown on my desk most of the time since I use my S5 daily. Just knowing about this issue bothers me a lot, though. I wonder what OP will reply in the mail I sent them. They (a support guy) asked me to send them videos of the problem so that they could help shedding some light as to what issues I'm facing.
I tried it as well when you plug it in I can use 10 fingers and no issues without plugging in anything above 6 screws up :/
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Just had a go myself. I get the issue after using 5-6 fingers, more so when the device is flat (odd). When I charge the phone and do the test it is gone completely. Only difference in my situation is that it doesn't crop up when I'm typing, I don't suffer from ghost swipes etc when doing normal browsing or playing games. It functions as good as my M7 until I start to use 5+ fingers on the screen
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I tried it as well when you plug it in I can use 10 fingers and no issues without plugging in anything above 6 screws up :/
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I wonder if all OPO's have this grounding (?) issue.
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I wonder if all OPO's have this grounding (?) issue.
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Probably. The fact that it doesn't happen to everyone unless they use a lot of fingers at once is more than likely the reason some say they don't have it. If I didn't install the multitouch test app I'd assume the screen is perfect since I never use more than two fingers on the screen at once anyways
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Probably. The fact that it doesn't happen to everyone unless they use a lot of fingers at once is more than likely the reason some say they don't have it. If I didn't install the multitouch test app I'd assume the screen is perfect since I never use more than two fingers on the screen at once anyways
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Then my One must be pretty darn bad since it started acting up after only four fingers. Not that I'd ever need that many simultaneously for anything other than touch testing apps, though. I think I most likely have a general touch issues as well as most issues resolve themselves after a reboot but come crawling back slowly.
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Then my One must be pretty darn bad since it started acting up after only four fingers. Not that I'd ever need that many simultaneously for anything other than touch testing apps, though. I think I most likely have a general touch issues as well as most issues resolve themselves after a reboot but come crawling back slowly.
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You might be better off not purchasing any device with the "One" name regardless of whether it is HTC or OP based on your track record lol. It does sound like general touch issues though. Good thing you have the S5. Personally I'd keep the phone though and have it as a spare when/if newer updates help to alleviate the issue.
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You might be better off not purchasing any device with the "One" name regardless of whether it is HTC or OP based on your track record lol. It does sound like general touch issues though. Good thing you have the S5. Personally I'd keep the phone though and have it as a spare when/if newer updates help to alleviate the issue.
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Yes, I think so too. I had it up for sale but took the ad down as I felt like keeping it instead. Besides, the touch seems better with the new "firmware" and might just "do" as a spare. Would be nice testing some CM-infused Lollipop too.
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Yes, I think so too. I had it up for sale but took the ad down as I felt like keeping it instead. Besides, the touch seems better with the new "firmware" and might just "do" as a spare. Would be nice testing some CM-infused Lollipop too.
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Good, sounds like the best course of action to me
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Good, sounds like the best course of action to me
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Saves me from the hassle of getting rid of a device that I don't really need to get rid of. I've already earned back what I paid for it anyway.
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Theshawty said:
I wonder if all OPO's have this grounding (?) issue.
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Have you try with COLOR OS
Same problem?
LOL i posted about USB connected a week ago.. And best is try to connect USB cable (only cable) without computer. Multitouch will work properly. I had that issues but they gone dunno why.
gerciolisz said:
LOL i posted about USB connected a week ago.. And best is try to connect USB cable (only cable) without computer. Multitouch will work properly. I had that issues but they gone dunno why.
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Shouldn't it be possible to built a small plugin which then serves as a dust cover for the micro usb connection, which also cures all multi-touch issues... i smell money in the air :laugh:
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Shouldn't it be possible to built a small plugin which then serves as a dust cover for the micro usb connection, which also cures all multi-touch issues... i smell money in the air :laugh:
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LOL yep i thought about it too.. But better thing should be to find this not grounded part and physically connect it.. Dunno maybe bend some metal part of usb just 1 milimeter can help but maybe not.
I removed my case and as i had the phone in my hands the touch was perfect. The touch was perfect when I had earphones plugged in.
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LOL yep i thought about it too.. But better thing should be to find this not grounded part and physically connect it.. Dunno maybe bend some metal part of usb just 1 milimeter can help but maybe not.
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Someone tried something like this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=55195874&postcount=1783
Unfortunately he did not post any pictures. Side effects like increased heat could come with this modification.
Curious, do you have the hardware buttons activated? It maybe in my head but I just tried this and the touchscreen seems better (no random movement nor false presses or merges) when the hardware buttons are disabled. I dont really find the touchscreen a problem but it may help you guys, I am sticking with software buttons now (always did with my nexus ) and cant complain now!
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Curious, do you have the hardware buttons activated? It maybe in my head but I just tried this and the touchscreen seems better (no random movement nor false presses or merges) when the hardware buttons are disabled. I dont really find the touchscreen a problem but it may help you guys, I am sticking with software buttons now (always did with my nexus ) and cant complain now!
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The problem here is that the touch panel doesn't properly ground to the back cover for some strange reason. Notice how the touch works brilliantly in my other video? Yeah, that's because I now grounded the phone by physically touching the back cover (I had to take off my flip case for this). It also grounds as it should when there's some electrical current entering the usb port in some way (either by a wall plug charger or a USB cable connected to your computer).
It has to be bad grounding. Nothing else makes sense.
So something I noticed on my old note 4 is that the screen has a strip unresponsive to touch (pen works fine).
The thing that weirds me out is that when you reboot the phone, it works perfectly fine, but after being on for a few hours, the middle part of the screen just stops responding.
Rebooting revives the part of the screen, but not for long. Factory resetting it does nothing different and it's running completely stock firmware and software.
Any ideas as to what's causing this? I'm not sure if replacing the screen would help since it seems to work fine for the short duration that it does.
It sounds like a digitizer problem. I wonder also if the heat of the phone is causing something to change or even physically warp to cause the unresponsive part.
Unidave199 said:
It sounds like a digitizer problem. I wonder also if the heat of the phone is causing something to change or even physically warp to cause the unresponsive part.
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Either a blown display or mobo.
A trace, solder joint, micro weld or junction failed.
It's possible it could be a connector/ribbon cable failure in which case easily repairable.
Check the display/mobo ribbon connectors...
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It sounds like a digitizer problem. I wonder also if the heat of the phone is causing something to change or even physically warp to cause the unresponsive part.
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I'm pretty sure it's not heat since you can turn it on, leave it on a table, idle without anything running, and it'll be completely room temp and the part of the screen stops responding.
blackhawk said:
Either a blown display or mobo.
A trace, solder joint, micro weld or junction failed.
It's possible it could be a connector/ribbon cable failure in which case easily repairable.
Check the display/mobo ribbon connectors...
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I'll give them a look over, hopefully reseating connectors may help
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I'm pretty sure it's not heat since you can turn it on, leave it on a table, idle without anything running, and it'll be completely room temp and the part of the screen stops responding.
I'll give them a look over, hopefully reseating connectors may help
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Could be literally 100s of thousands of parts that could have failed; semiconductor junctions, resistors or caps.
Solder failures aren't uncommon either.
If you spare parts, use the process of elimination. If you really like that model having a few parts queens around is a plan.
Hopefully it's a connector contact... check all connections including grounds.
For $650 you can get a Note 10+ 512gb in excellent condition... don't got too nuts trying to fix it.
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Could be literally 100s of thousands of parts that could have failed; semiconductor junctions, resistors or caps.
Solder failures aren't uncommon either.
If you spare parts, use the process of elimination. If you really like that model having a few parts queens around is a plan.
Hopefully it's a connector contact... check all connections including grounds.
For $650 you can get a Note 10+ 512gb in excellent condition... don't got too nuts trying to fix it.
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i'm not using this phone, it's my dad's old phone that i just want to mess around with since he put it in a drawer a while ago. I don't really plan on putting much into it. just hopefully get it running well and to **** around with roms on it.
Also $650 still isn't cheap for a phone when you're paying cash outright :v
at least a lot more expensive than a $50 screen replacement or $35 motherboard
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i'm not using this phone, it's my dad's old phone that i just want to mess around with since he put it in a drawer a while ago. I don't really plan on putting much into it. just hopefully get it running well and to **** around with roms on it.
Also $650 still isn't cheap for a phone when you're paying cash outright :v
at least a lot more expensive than a $50 screen replacement or $35 motherboard
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You're my hero... I am not good enough to mess with solders and digging that deep! Good Luck!
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i'm not using this phone, it's my dad's old phone that i just want to mess around with since he put it in a drawer a while ago. I don't really plan on putting much into it. just hopefully get it running well and to **** around with roms on it.
Also $650 still isn't cheap for a phone when you're paying cash outright :v
at least a lot more expensive than a $50 screen replacement or $35 motherboard
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I gave you a top shelf example.
Lots S-10s etc.
There's no guarantee swamping out parts will fix anything. The devil is in the details.
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I gave you a top shelf example.
Lots S-10s etc.
There's no guarantee swamping out parts will fix anything. The devil is in the details.
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Fair enough
reseating things didn't help, may see if i can scrounge up an old parts phone or something
YellowSomething said:
Fair enough
reseating things didn't help, may see if i can scrounge up an old parts phone or something
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Sorry to hear that.
Some devices seem to defy being repaired.
45 years ago Tom Schall owned a TV repair shop. He was an excellent technician with a engineering degree in electronics.
He swapped out a trouble filled Magnavox chassis with a known good one for a customer after repairing the original one at least twice only to have another circuit fail.
After a month he did the swamp but continued to try and fix the original. He repaired completely different sections of it only to have another one fail, HV, tuner, horizontal output, audio, and more.
Never once did it survive a couple days of burn in, sometimes only hours. It got to be a running joke. Hundreds of test point checks, scoped it, testing isolated components pondering how it could be so cryptic to repair. At this point no one else would even touch it... but Tom persisted for at least 3 more years in his spare time.
If there's a heaven or hell I'm sure Tom's still tinkering with that chassis. RIP
They weren't called Magotboxes for nothing
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YellowSomething said:
So something I noticed on my old note 4 is that the screen has a strip unresponsive to touch (pen works fine).
The thing that weirds me out is that when you reboot the phone, it works perfectly fine, but after being on for a few hours, the middle part of the screen just stops responding.
Rebooting revives the part of the screen, but not for long. Factory resetting it does nothing different and it's running completely stock firmware and software.
Any ideas as to what's causing this? I'm not sure if replacing the screen would help since it seems to work fine for the short duration that it does.
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See if this works for you, it did for me after i thinking digitser was kerputt.
on Dialler, dial: *#2663#
if a menu comes up, choose the top left option to upgrade the fw for touchscreen, wait for complete, then hit home button and see if it works. Maybe best to try after your screen goes funny, it should fix straight away
thewudz said:
See if this works for you, it did for me after i thinking digitser was kerputt.
on Dialler, dial: *#2663#
if a menu comes up, choose the top left option to upgrade the fw for touchscreen, wait for complete, then hit home button and see if it works. Maybe best to try after your screen goes funny, it should fix straight away
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That worked at first, but I rebooted the phone and it seems to be doing it again. I tried to update the firmware again, and it's not working. Any advice? It worked fine for over a day without any issue after doing that at first, now it's back to doing it again.
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That worked at first, but I rebooted the phone and it seems to be doing it again. I tried to update the firmware again, and it's not working. Any advice? It worked fine for over a day without any issue after doing that at first, now it's back to doing it again.
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Sorry late reply, I didnt get a notification. It worked for me and I haven't had to do it again, it likely sounds like you have a hardware issue unfortunately.
Only other option maybe, is putting on a custom rom, which will instigate a full system wipe and a new fresh software install to a more modern Android version. Possibly may be worth a shot?
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Sorry late reply, I didnt get a notification. It worked for me and I haven't had to do it again, it likely sounds like you have a hardware issue unfortunately.
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Alright, update.
i tried again, and it fixed it, but a while later, it did it again. Since that seemed to fix it for a bit, i can't imagine it being solely a hardware problem.
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Only other option maybe, is putting on a custom rom, which will instigate a full system wipe and a new fresh software install to a more modern Android version. Possibly may be worth a shot?
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honestly, that's the plan as of right now. As much as I like the S-pen features on this, it'd be for the better if it fixes it.
Update, TWRP + new rom installed. Still does it.
With Refined Nougat N7FE, I'm able to open the screen firmware menu from the dialer and update like with the stock rom. It sometimes fixes it for a while, but ends up doing it again.