Anyone working on custom roms, kernels, etc? - Galaxy Tab 10.1 General

I certainly don't mean to sound like I'm complaining but I find it surprising that there aren't any custom kernels or roms yet. The xoom was overclocked to 1.5 ghz within 3 days of it's release but we have not seen anything(other than getting root which was ridiculously easy). I don't really know anything about modifying kernels or anything(it's probably about time for me to learn) but I can't believe that all of the 5000 devs who got this device are like me. So is anyone working on anything? If you are, please don't take this the wrong way. I know(or have some idea) of how much work needs to go into it and I really appreciate your effort. If you're not.. well, then definitely I can't complain cause I'm not doing anything either haha.

smaskell said:
I certainly don't mean to sound like I'm complaining but I find it surprising that there aren't any custom kernels or roms yet. The xoom was overclocked to 1.5 ghz within 3 days of it's release but we have not seen anything(other than getting root which was ridiculously easy). I don't really know anything about modifying kernels or anything(it's probably about time for me to learn) but I can't believe that all of the 5000 devs who got this device are like me. So is anyone working on anything? If you are, please don't take this the wrong way. I know(or have some idea) of how much work needs to go into it and I really appreciate your effort. If you're not.. well, then definitely I can't complain cause I'm not doing anything either haha.
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Kernel src has not been released yet.

doh! that should have been obvious. For some reason I was just mindlessly thinking "it's tegra 2 just like the others so it should be no problem" but obviously that is not correct. The soc is clearly not everything.. I guess we'll probably have to wait until the device is officially released.

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Overclocking possible?

While glancing around at Milestone forums, I saw this: http://code.google.com/p/milestone-overclock/
On the front page it says: (bold is really all you need to read )
Other phones
In theory this technique is perfectly feasible in any Android phone, and will surely work in phones based on Texas Instruments OMAP3. You may say it's unneeded if you can use custom firmwares with overclocking enabled; but you must flash a specific kernel to get a particular speed. It would be much better to be able to set any maximum frequency/voltage on the fly without flashing or rebooting. For instance, you could overclock to 1.0 GHz before a browsing or gaming session and then return to a lower frequency like 600 MHz, though still overcloked, for battery savings and safety. It's up to you. And that's what this project enables. You'd have to port the kernel module over to the new kernel; I've written a detailed howto in the Disassembly page explaining this.
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We have a phone with an OMAP3, so it may even work out of the box. Otherwise, it looks like it'd take a knowledgeable person to get it running, but we got plenty of those anyway! <3
Root is required of course, but from articles I've read, it looks like root should come? This could be very cool!
Great find!
E-FUSE
sorry guys but from what i read in the general tab of the forums and from a couple other resources it sounds like it is very unlikely that we will ever see custom kerns. on the droid x because of the hardware e-fuse that is in place on the phone in combination with the boot loader being locked down tighter than a virgin on prom night because if you "trip the fuse" the phone will hardware brick meaning a new piece of hardware will need to be installed by moto in order for the phone to become operational again and we all know flashing custom kerns. void your manf. war. so it seems like moto has made this phone to much of a liability to even dev for SAD DAYS i wanted one so bad so ill wait and see if the fuse gets cracked (xbox 360 I know way different just my light at the end of the tunnel) GL DEVS AND THANKS IN ADVANCED FOR ALL THE WORK YOUR ABOUT TO DO
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sorry guys but from what i read in the general tab of the forums and from a couple other resources it sounds like it is very unlikely that we will ever see custom kerns. on the droid x because of the hardware e-fuse that is in place on the phone in combination with the boot loader being locked down tighter than a virgin on prom night because if you "trip the fuse" the phone will hardware brick meaning a new piece of hardware will need to be installed by moto in order for the phone to become operational again and we all know flashing custom kerns. void your manf. war. so it seems like moto has made this phone to much of a liability to even dev for SAD DAYS i wanted one so bad so ill wait and see if the fuse gets cracked (xbox 360 I know way different just my light at the end of the tunnel) GL DEVS AND THANKS IN ADVANCED FOR ALL THE WORK YOUR ABOUT TO DO
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Uhm... you didn't read the site... we need root and only root for this particular method of overclocking. Not NAND access.
I don't think it should be too difficult to port the Milestone Overclock project to the Droid X (they've done brilliant work, by the way ). At the least, changing the address we provide to the module, and at the most, doing a bit more reverse engineering.
Either way, if a straight port is not possible, adjusting the current method will almost certainly work. The whole point of a LKM is to extend or modify an existing kernel without the need to reflash it. We just need root.
I wish I could convince people to just refuse to buy phones with locked bootloaders. Ideally, everyone would buy Nexus Ones in vast numbers and force manufacturers to make fastboot oem unlock a standard.
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sorry guys but from what i read in the general tab of the forums and from a couple other resources it sounds like it is very unlikely that we will ever see custom kerns. on the droid x because of the hardware e-fuse that is in place on the phone in combination with the boot loader being locked down tighter than a virgin on prom night because if you "trip the fuse" the phone will hardware brick meaning a new piece of hardware will need to be installed by moto in order for the phone to become operational again and we all know flashing custom kerns. void your manf. war. so it seems like moto has made this phone to much of a liability to even dev for SAD DAYS i wanted one so bad so ill wait and see if the fuse gets cracked (xbox 360 I know way different just my light at the end of the tunnel) GL DEVS AND THANKS IN ADVANCED FOR ALL THE WORK YOUR ABOUT TO DO
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Original Moto Droid has the same "eFuse", aka M-Shield. All OMAP's have it:
http://focus.ti.com/general/docs/wt...lateId=6123&navigationId=12316&contentId=4629
Now, the locked bootloader is another issue. But that should only affect loading of custom ROM's.
x.v_ said:
Uhm... you didn't read the site... we need root and only root for this particular method of overclocking. Not NAND access.
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sure i did it says it changes info in the kern so couldnt that trip the efuse because we dont know if it will look at proc frequency when you boot so if you where to change the values in the stock kern then in theroey there is a good chance that it could trip the fuse im no dev just seems like common sense
I wonder who's going to be the first person to try?
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sure i did it says it changes info in the kern so couldnt that trip the efuse because we dont know if it will look at proc frequency when you boot so if you where to change the values in the stock kern then in theroey there is a good chance that it could trip the fuse im no dev just seems like common sense
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No........
grndnpnd said:
sure i did it says it changes info in the kern so couldnt that trip the efuse because we dont know if it will look at proc frequency when you boot so if you where to change the values in the stock kern then in theroey there is a good chance that it could trip the fuse im no dev just seems like common sense
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No, you're just wrong. I don't know what I'm talking about here, but you said in exact words: "it is very unlikely that we will ever see custom kerns". This is NOT a custom kernel. Secondly, I really doubt the eFuse is live monitoring the variables (I assume that's what it changes?) in the kernel (assuming it does infact change variables w/ in the kernel). Nothing of Motorola's would be overwritten with this (I think). I can't imagine the eFuse really does that much, if anything (which is coming to arise). Maybe someone else can shed some light on this, because like I said, I'm purely guessing.
EDIT: Whoa, SetCPU maker above me??? Hi.
I'm pretty sure you do need a custom kernel to overclock the only reason its possible on the Droid stock kernel is that the kernel on the Droid is rated at 600mhz stock but UNDERCLOCKED to 550 mhz. So we could overclock the stock one since it was already possible, just underclocked
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Not according to the Milestone Google code page...
Nah, I just released my overclock method.
http://www.droidforums.net/forum/dr...-x-successfully-overclocked-6.html#post710279
well i guess i just dont get the concept of an efuse from what i have read it checks the frequency of the proc on boot but w/e has anyone tried this yet does it work i would love to see this phone oc'ed and for the god that made setcpu thank you and my donation better have bought beer lol
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well i guess i just dont get the concept of an efuse from what i have read it checks the frequency of the proc on boot but w/e has anyone tried this yet does it work i would love to see this phone oc'ed and for the god that made setcpu thank you and my donation better have bought beer lol
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Dude. Punctuation. Please.
Im overclocked right now.
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Highjacker jack, what r u OC'd too? Also im not a benchmark head like some, but what if any differences are u seeing as far as quadrant, linpack? Mainly quadrant bc if it is higher is will likely process 3d graphics better, this cud b interesting after a good bit of trial and error bc te D1 can almost triple its clock speed, i know that this isn't entirely plausible and we are dealing with something that we cannot put custom roms on but i was just curious. Thanks
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1.26 Ghz. Around 3-5 more in linpack. Broke 1400 in quadrant.
3D graphics performance is definitely better.
Most people can't even get to 1.2 stably. I must've gotten lucky with my phone.
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Running great at 1150000 and 72. 10+ on linpack, stable. Thank you guys. Excellent. Now, I could give 2 **** about the locked bootloader. OC was all I wanted

New great devs.

Im a epic lover...... dont mean to do any fights or anything like that...
we have been in so much drama ... and i know some ppl making threads because of no havin time to read!!!! (i did it once)... anyways my point is here!!
i just saw the evo thread and for some reason they have the 2.3 ginge.. working in the evo(not full but they are in the way_) is a dirty hack from sdk but still they got it to work
we have great devs here!! (noob... bubby323.. syndicate ... and some other just to name some!!.... btw to bad for noob that he left us...) i know they can make it work!! i know is hard and it takes alot time so lets just chillax a lil./.. right now im learing how to theme ... which isnt bad .... just need lil bit more time and i know is not the same as dev... but is something!!
so i think we have the power and the ppl to make this work and only giving the best to the ppl ... without the (spr. and sammy) bootloads lol!!... so please ppl..
lets get a positive work here ... and not fight!!!... and u guys can erase this thread or not!! just want us a a commmunity to get in that same track as other phone users!!!
thanks for u time !!!
The best way to bring christmas (android) cheer, is to sing loud for all to hear! Our dev's rock, and we will be there soon, cause once our final release is dropped and the source is released we will be on the same page as the Evo. No doubt about that.
The reason you aren't seeing anything for the Epic yet is that in like 8 days they are releasing a phone almost identical to ours with gingerbread. Once the source for that rom is released, it should be a lot easier to port. Still gonna be a TON of work though.
muyoso said:
The reason you aren't seeing anything for the Epic yet is that in like 8 days they are releasing a phone almost identical to ours with gingerbread. Once the source for that rom is released, it should be a lot easier to port. Still gonna be a TON of work though.
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well dont get me wrong!! but if we havent get the froyo update...///and even tho sammy has work on the 2.3 (ginger...) for a few months... what makes u think we can port it ... i bellieved nexus s is not a cmda phone that make alot diff. to port it... even tho they might or do have same hardwares!!
I don't know how many people here has actually used Roms built from an SDK but there is a ton of stuff missing always that can't just be fabricated out of thin air. Sometimes though a decent rom can be made out of an SDK and a dump from another device that has all the bells and whistles. None of this matters anyways because in this subform people complain when their lock screen lags as unusable so phones would go through the wall with something that would have as many bugs as this would have.
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I don't know how many people here has actually used Roms built from an SDK but there is a ton of stuff missing always that can't just be fabricated out of thin air. Sometimes though a decent rom can be made out of an SDK and a dump from another device that has all the bells and whistles. None of this matters anyways because in this subform people complain when their lock screen lags as unusable so phones would go through the wall with something that would have as many bugs as this would have.
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+1 im running dk28 as a daily use bug free and I see threads popping up about how bad it is. 1/2 of all problems I'm reading about are install related. This also speaks to a lack of organization in the epic forum. Combine that with the spread out duplicate files all over (i think there are 3 different di18 pit files, at least 2) the whole development forum needs to be restructured. On top of that add in how critical the standards are from the users like onilink said. Have patients and quit holding the epic to the Evo just cause there is a froyo leak. When the source is out and the kernel gets overclocked, then we can start a new outlook for Epic development.
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1/2 of all problems I'm reading about are install related.
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I installed DK28 via the 3-button method, didn't do a wipewipewipe or factory reset. I have since done the wipewipewipe, and that did help speed/smoothness wise. I'm having pretty cruddy battery life though...seems like a dumb question (and I'm not sure how this could be related, but here goes) but could not doing the factory reset left some garbage in there that's causing this problem? I'm running watchdog and I don't see anything out of the ordinary, this thing just goes through the battery like a piranha on speed.
At this point, I'm seriously thinking about Odining back to DK18. I take the phone off charge at 6:30 am, and it's dead by 2pm.
A factory reset is mandatory to install froyo
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sleebus.jones said:
I installed DK28 via the 3-button method, didn't do a wipewipewipe or factory reset. I have since done the wipewipewipe, and that did help speed/smoothness wise. I'm having pretty cruddy battery life though...seems like a dumb question (and I'm not sure how this could be related, but here goes) but could not doing the factory reset left some garbage in there that's causing this problem? I'm running watchdog and I don't see anything out of the ordinary, this thing just goes through the battery like a piranha on speed.
At this point, I'm seriously thinking about Odining back to DK18. I take the phone off charge at 6:30 am, and it's dead by 2pm.
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Lookup how to recalibrate your battery ODIN will not help with this
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Lookup how to recalibrate your battery ODIN will not help with this
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Ok, I spent some time skerching that up and all I can say is AMEN BROTHA! I think you've hit the nail on the head. I did flash with the USB in, which screws up the battery calibration. Hopefully that will solve my problems.
Thanks again!
Well all I'm saying is evo have grea devs just like us..... all I want or the right thing to do is just a reqest... nothing also no trolling or anything like that...let's just have a great epic thread...... that's all I'm asking. And to the noob ppl here ... search before posting.... and post in the right secction
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[Link] Sometimes root isnt the answer

http://www.androidcentral.com/sometimes-root-isn’t-answer
This should be stickied in every android forum here. Im not rooted, and i totally agree with this post.
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just being able to run ad blocker for games is enough reason for me
I think this all boils down to 2 things:
1) patience
2) intentions
You have to read up and study about rooting. Even though geniuses here and in other places have made it so relatively easy, no amount of relative ease will help someone who isn't detail-oriented, logical and methodical.
But the 2nd bit, intentions, is even more important. Rooting for its own sake is just stupid. In my case, I needed it for a reason never necessary for my old Touch Pro: roaming. On the TP, all I needed to do was install a CAB file. On Android and Sprint, root access was needed. All the other things I can do while rooted are just gravy. Mighty delicious and addicting gravy, but nevertheless gravy. ^_^
zanderman112 said:
http://www.androidcentral.com/sometimes-root-isn’t-answer
This should be stickied in every android forum here. Im not rooted, and i totally agree with this post.
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While I agree with the post, I am not sure you read it, it doesn't exactly agree with what you, it just talks about why people who aren't tech-savvy shouldn't do something that could potentially brick their phone just to do it.
063_XOBX said:
While I agree with the post, I am not sure you read it, it doesn't exactly agree with what you, it just talks about why people who aren't tech-savvy shouldn't do something that could potentially brick their phone just to do it.
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I did read it. And I payed attention. Lol. What I meant to say was, that this is one of the reasons I haven't rooted, I'm not good enough with pc's to do it. And even if I did manage to root succesfully, I wouldn't dare try flashing things and such. I'm all for making this phone better, but only with the things I'm comfortable with. When I upgrade to another phone in the future, I might start messin with this one for the experience, then I might do it on my current phone, whatever it may be.
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I personally don't *need* root. It does make a few things possible that I find useful, such as a permanent minfree mod, being able to store a few pictures in the system space for use as homescreen icons that don't take forever to show up after the phone boots, and actually replacing system apps with upgrades rather than taking up space on my data partition. I could easily survive without those things.
I completely agree that there are people that should not root, should not run custom roms, etc., and I see them regularly here and elsewhere. Much like that article says, they are not (necessarily) stupid, they just don't have the proper mindset.
When I see people posting things like "I don't see update.zip, I just see update" I cringe and start thinking that there should be a computer competency exam necessary to allow even the minimal "hacking" involved in things like rooting and roms.
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When I see people posting things like "I don't see update.zip, I just see update" I cringe and start thinking that there should be a computer competency exam necessary to allow even the minimal "hacking" involved in things like rooting and roms.
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Make it happen lol
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+1 on the part about benchmarks. Maybe my usage is just minimal and simplistic compared to those who do it, but I just cannot understand why people benchmark phones (except maybe for graphical benchmarks to see what gaming performance might be like) or try to overclock from 1ghz to 1.2 or even 1.4 ghz. I just don't understand exactly what the point is, when the phone is (generally) fast enough to begin with.
Because you can.........
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TWO515TY said:
+1 on the part about benchmarks. Maybe my usage is just minimal and simplistic compared to those who do it, but I just cannot understand why people benchmark phones (except maybe for graphical benchmarks to see what gaming performance might be like) or try to overclock from 1ghz to 1.2 or even 1.4 ghz. I just don't understand exactly what the point is, when the phone is (generally) fast enough to begin with.
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Why buy a sports car? I mean a Corolla is fast enough for most use. Why get a 6 core desktop with 32gigabytes of RAM?
The real question is: If you want it then why not?
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I agree with the post. My wife is perfectly happy with her phone stock. Not me. I like to try new stuff and play around.
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I've helped plenty of people out who had no idea what they were doing now they edit xmls and smali on the regular. What some people need is a one on one in something like an irc so they can be reassured after each step and after the first round of flashing their comfort level and confidence greatly improve. To most people with these phones this is the first time they ever did any computer related mods in their life but they don't necessarily need to wrote off as to dumb to root
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Why buy a sports car? I mean a Corolla is fast enough for most use. Why get a 6 core desktop with 32gigabytes of RAM?
The real question is: If you want it then why not?
Texted while driving
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Well I kind of understand what you're saying, but I don't really agree with your analogies. The car one is harder to fit because a lot of people buy sports cars for the look or the name, or whatever other features here and there that the Corrolla may not have. Even still, driving habits, location and so may other factors play into whether to get a sports car or a cheap sedan like the Corolla.
Overclocking your phone doesn't really compare because we're talking about taking what we already have (Corolla, sports car, or otherwise) and then modifying it for what is usally a minimum increase in performance. If your car has a 300 hp engine and you upgrade it to 350 hp, but don't drive it any differently than when you had 300 hp, what was the point of upgrading it?
And idk who has 32gb of RAM for regular desktop use, but most people who overclock their PC's can see a finite, tangible increase in performance. I'm on syndicaterom 1.1.0 which can scale up to 1.3 ghz. However, I would never notice the difference between 1 ghz and 1.3 ghz because 1 ghz is already more than fast enough for all of the things I do on my phone, and more than likely for the things that most, if not all people do on their phones. Most of the time, it seems like it's more for the theory and bragging rights. Not that there's anything wrong with that, but I just don't see why people overclock and then benchmark their phones for non-gaming applications. To each his own I suppose.
Um. Tethering mostly. And also titanium backup.
Ill be it. I'm NOT a computer genius but imnot an idiot. I can root and whatever just fine and things work out eventually. So that's good. Still want to do ec05 and genocide 1.0 though... but yeah..
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Yeah... The author of that editorial should say that to the Indulge users' faces.
Lol, did he really say this should be stickied on every android forum here?? Oh no he didn't! That's like telling every Puerto rican that his Stock Honda Civic is fine the way it is, lol. Is that not what this forum is all about?? This is XDA Developers right? This is about developing new ideas for these devices that we feel are needed, wanted, or just for fun. These devices are capable of so much more than just stock gives us and we are here to unlock those possibilties. Guess what, a lot of these depend on root, or gaining Superuser permissions. The guy who wrote the arcticle sounded to me like he was just tired of noobs not paying attention or studying before the exam.
The rooting process really can't get any easier. If you could read instructions, download a file and find a button on your keyboard you can root. The problems are caused after you take the wheel of the rooted device and aren't educated enough on how to drive it after you turn off autopilot! But that's why these wonderful forums are here right?
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That's like telling every Puerto rican that his Stock Honda Civic is fine the way it is, lol.
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The joys of racial stereotypes. You're a class act.
k0nane said:
The joys of racial stereotypes. You're a class act.
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You have no idea how many times I have had to bite my tongue on this forum... like the kids these days sayin 'no homo', they might as well add 'yes homophobe'. that and the 1488's in usernames... I just try to keep my mouth shut (completely contradictory to my nature) unless someone is using that ignorance in a way that needs to be addressed. The above statement is such, even if you are puerto rican, nobody knows that here on the interwebs... so you could be reinforcing racism in one of the impressionable kids here, when the only impression that should be made is a boot on the racists head.
Support your local ARA. (AFA in the UK/Europe)
Well here is the thing..the article mentions the Thunderbolt..and HTC is stepping it up taking things more annoying...for us though we got Odin, which is pretty good and simple at being a backup tool...
If a user is inexperienced and is afraid to mess up I just point them to EB13 tool and then update.zip to EC05 and they are back to normal...
That said out of curiosity..has anyone ever bricked their epic rooting? I mean I know on other phones rooting can brick...but I'v heard many people messing up and never heard of anyone bricking...but maybe I missed something...anyone see someone brick just by rooting?
Spot on
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I've helped plenty of people out who had no idea what they were doing now they edit xmls and smali on the regular. What some people need is a one on one in something like an irc so they can be reassured after each step and after the first round of flashing their comfort level and confidence greatly improve. To most people with these phones this is the first time they ever did any computer related mods in their life but they don't necessarily need to wrote off as to dumb to root
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Good reply Dreams,thats how i feel live and learn.
I have walked many people through rooting the epic the first time.
Now they are more advanced, and the community is better for it.

Keyboard Lag Fix

Hi everyone,
Some of you may already know me (the new guy to rooting ). For those who don't, I'm completely new to rooting and roms (just started a day ago).
I've tried two different roms so far other than stock (Urban and ERA, currently on ERA). and one of the biggest things to come to my eyes is the keyboard lag fix..
This fix is so significant it's crazy. I mean I used to hate the Epic keyboard because of this. I never knew that I could simply root and have a rom that would have fixed this issue until now.
I'm really curious why Samsung didn't bother to apply this fix? Did it sacrifice anything? Was it simply to make the keys more sensitive?
Just curious about everyone elses thoughts.
HanMan5000 said:
Hi everyone,
Some of you may already know me (the new guy to rooting ). For those who don't, I'm completely new to rooting and roms (just started a day ago).
I've tried two different roms so far other than stock (Urban and ERA, currently on ERA). and one of the biggest things to come to my eyes is the keyboard lag fix..
This fix is so significant it's crazy. I mean I used to hate the Epic keyboard because of this. I never knew that I could simply root and have a rom that would have fixed this issue until now.
I'm really curious why Samsung didn't bother to apply this fix? Did it sacrifice anything? Was it simply to make the keys more sensitive?
Just curious about everyone elses thoughts.
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Honestly I think it was a matter of mkasick finding a better way to deal with key press events. He did some serious reasearch, and being a kernel dev I can see he really put some effort into it. I think mkasick just understood the hardware better than the guy who originally wrote the code
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Honestly I think it was a matter of mkasick finding a better way to deal with key press events. He did some serious reasearch, and being a kernel dev I can see he really put some effort into it. I think mkasick just understood the hardware better than the guy who originally wrote the code
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I think you just hit the nail on the head! It's amazing what an enthusiast programmer can and will do that someone just earning a paycheck will overlook, intentional or not.
I agree with you there, but it makes you wonder exactly how the hell something so BAD and so CENTRAL to the device can make it out the damn door! Not only that, but it doesn't get fixed for multiple releases! *boggle*
I tell ya, I generally avoid rooting, just because that's my preference, but if the next update doesn't fix the skips, I'm gonna have to do it.
sleebus.jones said:
I agree with you there, but it makes you wonder exactly how the hell something so BAD and so CENTRAL to the device can make it out the damn door! Not only that, but it doesn't get fixed for multiple releases! *boggle*
I tell ya, I generally avoid rooting, just because that's my preference, but if the next update doesn't fix the skips, I'm gonna have to do it.
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Yeah, I bought this phone and not the Evo one of the main reasons being the keyboard. I was more than dissapointed with the crappy keyboard problems. If I knew there's a fix if you root, I would have done this months ago lol.
Mkasiak, huge thanks.
Thanks the the Devs here, the current fixes added to the Gingerbread build really make the Epic shine.
It's fast, stable, has great battery life, a useful keyboard, and gtalk working.
It really makes me happy that I decided to choose this phone over the EVO back when both these phones were top of the line.
sleebus.jones said:
I agree with you there, but it makes you wonder exactly how the hell something so BAD and so CENTRAL to the device can make it out the damn door! Not only that, but it doesn't get fixed for multiple releases! *boggle*
I tell ya, I generally avoid rooting, just because that's my preference, but if the next update doesn't fix the skips, I'm gonna have to do it.
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Awww, just go ahead and root and fix it! and while you are at it, fix your GPS too! I waited a long time to root while on Froyo, but I finally did, but went unrooted to get the OTA to GB (don't really know why) and couldn't stand being unrooted. I wanted control back that only root could give me. Even my wife asked me to root her phone to keep certain apps from killing her battery.

[Q] Recommendations for a ROM ICS or JB

I'm currently running Toasted Marshmallow but the camera issue is killing me. Is there a daily driver out there with a working camera? I don't really care if it is ICS or JB I just need my camera/instagram to work again. I'm also hoping I can retain my apps/data as I have been running this for a bit. I did a search and could nothing definitive. If I overlooked something please let me know. Thanks for any help!
Synthetic AospX. Also, we have plenty of threads on this so you should have looked before you posted
I did a search. This was the most relevant thing and it was posted in July. Just sayin' Anyway thanks for the heads up.
Even if there is nothing titles "best ics roms", you could have just looked at the rom threads and found which ones had rave reviews. Most of the ICS and JB roms are at the top. I am not mad at you, slightly annoyed, i just want to tell you what to do for next time.
These are the threads I cannot f*cking stand. Test out the ROMs if you want to know which one is best for you! We don't know what you like. You do. So don't be that noob that asks all the questions in the general forum (like you did) and post ROM related problems as new threads.
Also, what's this? On the 2nd page?! No way someone would dare look there.. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1494680
Have a nice day.
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jennster said:
I'm currently running Toasted Marshmallow but the camera issue is killing me. Is there a daily driver out there with a working camera? I don't really care if it is ICS or JB I just need my camera/instagram to work again. I'm also hoping I can retain my apps/data as I have been running this for a bit. I did a search and could nothing definitive. If I overlooked something please let me know. Thanks for any help!
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What is searching? Searching is definitely NOT looking something up on Google and skimming through everything. Searching CANNOT be done with shortcuts.
Now if you had really done a full search, you would've found that like you said, there is nothing "definitive", or good out there. So what does that mean..? If you don't find it out there, it probably means it doesn't exist. Like in this case right here, a great example. I, like Invasion2 hate threads like these because nobody knows what's the best for your phone, nobody knows your taste. Only you do. Sure, we can give you suggestions and stuff, but why don't you just save everyone's time and try the ROMs yourself? Does it really take that long and that much effort? It doesn't hurt to try.
You should honestly be thankful that we even have ICS and JB ROMs...HTC and T-Mobile left us on the Gingerbread side. And here you are complaining about things not working. Well no duh...you can't expect a OS that wasn't meant to be on our phone to work 100% do you? Cause if you do, then you set impossible expectations for developers.
Another thing: have you ever thought about how much effort, time, and energy were put into the development of these ROMs? Developers work hard, spend countless hours, sometimes giving up sleep to get something to just boot, and the last thing we want to hear and read in our threads is someone who thinks he deserves the work we put out to complain about this or that not working. We know it's not working, we don't need you to tell us that! Trust us, we're working hard on trying to figure out the bugs and fix them, it's not easy.
Lastly...what's wrong with Gingerbread? It's working perfectly fine for our phone. If you want to have everything "perfect and working" why not stay with Gingerbread, where everything is guaranteed to work? I'm on MIUI GB, and can't love it more. If you just want the look of ICS or JB, it's not that hard to theme Cyanogenmod 7 to look like them. And if you want to be on ICS or JB just cause it's cooler or whatever, well be prepared to sacrifice somethings, like the camera. Gingerbread is a OS that was meant to be on our device, ICS and JB weren't.
Thanks.
invasion2 said:
These are the threads I cannot f*cking stand. Test out the ROMs if you want to know which one is best for you! We don't know what you like. You do. So don't be that noob that asks all the questions in the general forum (like you did) and post ROM related problems as new threads.
Also, what's this? On the 2nd page?! No way someone would dare look there.. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1494680
Have a nice day.
Sent from my HTC One S running ViperOneS!
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MFW I saw this post.
Also, TL: DR.
Oh FFS
I didn't ask what was the BEST. That would be opinion and I am certainly not soliciting that. I could read all day and get a million. I asked what had a WORKING CAMERA. Seems like an easy enough question for such well versed people. That being said that renders the link you so condescendingly offered completely irrelevant. So that you know the query was here on XDA for working camera mytouch4G. I wasn't complaining. I said, for my needs I need a working camera. Did I post this on the ROMs thread? No. I didn't. I was looking for a suggestion that would meet my needs, i.e. a working camera.
What happened to people on forums being decent and helpful if not nice too?
You know what I can't stand? A$$holes like you people that think that any of this makes a $hit in the big picture. You know what *I* hate? Taking care of my dad with Parkinsons and my mother that can't leave the house because she has COPD all while working two jobs. Really next to that an extraneous thread doesn't seem that bad. "$hit I have to scroll over this thread that someone who actually looked posted!"
A lot of people work hard. Some not in front of computers in the air conditioning. I appreciate that this stuff is available but please do not hang yourself on a cross. If you hate it, find work elsewhere. If you don't get out of my a$$. I'm not going to suck your d1ck either way and I doubt anyone else is either with your sunny disposition.
And good evening.
jennster said:
Oh FFS
I didn't ask what was the BEST. That would be opinion and I am certainly not soliciting that. I could read all day and get a million. I asked what had a WORKING CAMERA. Seems like an easy enough question for such well versed people. That being said that renders the link you so condescendingly offered completely irrelevant. So that you know the query was here on XDA for working camera mytouch4G. I wasn't complaining. I said, for my needs I need a working camera. Did I post this on the ROMs thread? No. I didn't. I was looking for a suggestion that would meet my needs, i.e. a working camera.
What happened to people on forums being decent and helpful if not nice too?
You know what I can't stand? A$$holes like you people that think that any of this makes a $hit in the big picture. You know what *I* hate? Taking care of my dad with Parkinsons and my mother that can't leave the house because she has COPD all while working two jobs. Really next to that an extraneous thread doesn't seem that bad. "$hit I have to scroll over this thread that someone who actually looked posted!"
A lot of people work hard. Some not in front of computers in the air conditioning. I appreciate that this stuff is available but please do not hang yourself on a cross. If you hate it, find work elsewhere. If you don't get out of my a$$. I'm not going to suck your d1ck either way and I doubt anyone else is either with your sunny disposition.
And good evening.
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I thought you'd searched around already? And since you already searched, you should've known that there wasn't a fully working camera yet. So why are you still asking this question if you know the answer already? Seriously...
You don't expect people to be nice if you rub them the wrong way do you? It's sorta your fault we're "not nice" to you...you should check out the other forums when noobs post questions like this, oh man...sh*t breaks apart the fan.
Did you guys actually read his OP ,it wasnt really that bad.He did say he searched ,granted he could of tried a bit harder,but help a guy out once in a while!I am not knockin anybody but ,not everyone knows there way around these threads like some of us do..I mean if he was being a lazy dumb ass that one thing ,but he didnt come off like that to me when i read his OP
anyways. search harder next time dude and you wont get flamed!!!
jennster said:
I'm currently running Toasted Marshmallow but the camera issue is killing me. Is there a daily driver out there with a working camera? I don't really care if it is ICS or JB I just need my camera/instagram to work again. I'm also hoping I can retain my apps/data as I have been running this for a bit. I did a search and could nothing definitive. If I overlooked something please let me know. Thanks for any help!
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I don't get why you're getting so much flac. It's not like the MT4G is flying. Most threads about ROMs are months old.
The only answer I seem to see too is Synthetic's ROM.
"If you don't have anything nice to say don't say anything at all"
I also didn't feel as if the op was a lazy dumb ass. To each his own
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Deathwish238 said:
I don't get why you're getting so much flac. It's not like the MT4G is flying. Most threads about ROMs are months old.
The only answer I seem to see too is Synthetic's ROM.
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Sorry to double post but I don't agree with this. Most roms are NOT months old and are updated. Granted some old ones aren't but for an old phone we hold our ground
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rockstarar said:
Sorry to double post but I don't agree with this. Most roms are NOT months old and are updated. Granted some old ones aren't but for an old phone we hold our ground
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Yeah. Ignore the troll. Development for this ancient phone that was only released on one continent is still moving nicely.
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Synthetic's AospX for sure. Very smooth and I use it as my daily driver.
I really, really hate people who just want to flame someone for asking a question, especially like this. Me, myself, I'VE been searching for a perfect rom for myself, and it's a PAIN to spend countless of hours when you are not experienced in messing with the phones, and you asking a simple question, than all these teenie boppers decide to start a flame war thinking they are the all-knowing, just because they design some ROMs and ports.
Now, personally the best ROM I have found so far that suits me is the CoreDroid ROM.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1434887
This seems to be the most stable ROM with best battery life that I have found after using many that keeps the original android feel to it. I have yet to find any real problems with it, seems to be the perfect one for me.
I'm currently going through most of the ROMs trying to find something else, instead of just upgrading my phone. I've tested out PacMan Glacier ROM, and honestly I'm liking that the most so far.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1933896
But again, problem is Camera freezing, panoramic does not work either, at least for me, may work for you. I'd look into that first to see how you like it. Has extensive customization options as well, so the settings screen is a little cluttered so to speak, but good for customization. I would REALLY LOVE to get this to work perfectly, cuz I will indefinitely use this (haven't tested out battery life though).
The next one from that I would check out (even though Saranhai is the one who pretty much crapped on you first) is MyTouchUX.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1826792
I would love to post what problems I've encountered in the thread, but I need to post at least 10 times or something or another before I can post in those forums. But anyways, problem I've had was that the Camera button does not work to get the camera on (but still can access the camera through the app itself), and the LockScreen still is not working in V3, at least for me. BUT panoramic does work with his, and it is really sweet. Less customization options on this ROM, but seems to be REALLY clean (couldn't get swype either, might just be me though.)
Ardanza said:
I really, really hate people who just want to flame someone for asking a question, especially like this. Me, myself, I'VE been searching for a perfect rom for myself, and it's a PAIN to spend countless of hours when you are not experienced in messing with the phones, and you asking a simple question, than all these teenie boppers decide to start a flame war thinking they are the all-knowing, just because they design some ROMs and ports.
Now, personally the best ROM I have found so far that suits me is the CoreDroid ROM.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1434887
This seems to be the most stable ROM with best battery life that I have found after using many that keeps the original android feel to it. I have yet to find any real problems with it, seems to be the perfect one for me.
I'm currently going through most of the ROMs trying to find something else, instead of just upgrading my phone. I've tested out PacMan Glacier ROM, and honestly I'm liking that the most so far.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1933896
But again, problem is Camera freezing, panoramic does not work either, at least for me, may work for you. I'd look into that first to see how you like it. Has extensive customization options as well, so the settings screen is a little cluttered so to speak, but good for customization. I would REALLY LOVE to get this to work perfectly, cuz I will indefinitely use this (haven't tested out battery life though).
The next one from that I would check out (even though Saranhai is the one who pretty much crapped on you first) is MyTouchUX.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1826792
I would love to post what problems I've encountered in the thread, but I need to post at least 10 times or something or another before I can post in those forums. But anyways, problem I've had was that the Camera button does not work to get the camera on (but still can access the camera through the app itself), and the LockScreen still is not working in V3, at least for me. BUT panoramic does work with his, and it is really sweet. Less customization options on this ROM, but seems to be REALLY clean (couldn't get swype either, might just be me though.)
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Have you noticed when the op last posted? Appreciate the efforts though
THEindian said:
Have you noticed when the op last posted? Appreciate the efforts though
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Bah, no I didn't even notice that... oh well...

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