Keyboard Lag Fix - Epic 4G General

Hi everyone,
Some of you may already know me (the new guy to rooting ). For those who don't, I'm completely new to rooting and roms (just started a day ago).
I've tried two different roms so far other than stock (Urban and ERA, currently on ERA). and one of the biggest things to come to my eyes is the keyboard lag fix..
This fix is so significant it's crazy. I mean I used to hate the Epic keyboard because of this. I never knew that I could simply root and have a rom that would have fixed this issue until now.
I'm really curious why Samsung didn't bother to apply this fix? Did it sacrifice anything? Was it simply to make the keys more sensitive?
Just curious about everyone elses thoughts.

HanMan5000 said:
Hi everyone,
Some of you may already know me (the new guy to rooting ). For those who don't, I'm completely new to rooting and roms (just started a day ago).
I've tried two different roms so far other than stock (Urban and ERA, currently on ERA). and one of the biggest things to come to my eyes is the keyboard lag fix..
This fix is so significant it's crazy. I mean I used to hate the Epic keyboard because of this. I never knew that I could simply root and have a rom that would have fixed this issue until now.
I'm really curious why Samsung didn't bother to apply this fix? Did it sacrifice anything? Was it simply to make the keys more sensitive?
Just curious about everyone elses thoughts.
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Honestly I think it was a matter of mkasick finding a better way to deal with key press events. He did some serious reasearch, and being a kernel dev I can see he really put some effort into it. I think mkasick just understood the hardware better than the guy who originally wrote the code
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thomasskull666 said:
Honestly I think it was a matter of mkasick finding a better way to deal with key press events. He did some serious reasearch, and being a kernel dev I can see he really put some effort into it. I think mkasick just understood the hardware better than the guy who originally wrote the code
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I think you just hit the nail on the head! It's amazing what an enthusiast programmer can and will do that someone just earning a paycheck will overlook, intentional or not.

I agree with you there, but it makes you wonder exactly how the hell something so BAD and so CENTRAL to the device can make it out the damn door! Not only that, but it doesn't get fixed for multiple releases! *boggle*
I tell ya, I generally avoid rooting, just because that's my preference, but if the next update doesn't fix the skips, I'm gonna have to do it.

sleebus.jones said:
I agree with you there, but it makes you wonder exactly how the hell something so BAD and so CENTRAL to the device can make it out the damn door! Not only that, but it doesn't get fixed for multiple releases! *boggle*
I tell ya, I generally avoid rooting, just because that's my preference, but if the next update doesn't fix the skips, I'm gonna have to do it.
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Yeah, I bought this phone and not the Evo one of the main reasons being the keyboard. I was more than dissapointed with the crappy keyboard problems. If I knew there's a fix if you root, I would have done this months ago lol.
Mkasiak, huge thanks.

Thanks the the Devs here, the current fixes added to the Gingerbread build really make the Epic shine.
It's fast, stable, has great battery life, a useful keyboard, and gtalk working.
It really makes me happy that I decided to choose this phone over the EVO back when both these phones were top of the line.

sleebus.jones said:
I agree with you there, but it makes you wonder exactly how the hell something so BAD and so CENTRAL to the device can make it out the damn door! Not only that, but it doesn't get fixed for multiple releases! *boggle*
I tell ya, I generally avoid rooting, just because that's my preference, but if the next update doesn't fix the skips, I'm gonna have to do it.
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Awww, just go ahead and root and fix it! and while you are at it, fix your GPS too! I waited a long time to root while on Froyo, but I finally did, but went unrooted to get the OTA to GB (don't really know why) and couldn't stand being unrooted. I wanted control back that only root could give me. Even my wife asked me to root her phone to keep certain apps from killing her battery.

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Given up on waiting for root..

Well, I hate to say this but I have given up waiting for root as an early leak user. I feel I have the right to post this due to 1, helping wherever I could, 2, contacting paul to even get the ball rolling after jcase mentioned him 3, offered donation for a solution etc...
I love my eris but see all the neat things I am missing out on. When the evo comes out, I will be jumping from pageplus to sprint... i am sure that will be rooted and if not... im still better off.
Thank you to all who have tried their best.. I think this is one instance where the phone beat us. I am annoyed that we do not have root as it allows us to better use our own phone.
anyway, best of luck to all...
Do not feed the troll...
seriously?? I have more posts than you and I am far from that... your comment is stupid.
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Well, I hate to say this but I have given up waiting for root as an early leak user. I feel I have the right to post this due to 1, helping wherever I could, 2, contacting paul to even get the ball rolling after jcase mentioned him 3, offered donation for a solution etc...
I love my eris but see all the neat things I am missing out on. When the evo comes out, I will be jumping from pageplus to sprint... i am sure that will be rooted and if not... im still better off.
Thank you to all who have tried their best.. I think this is one instance where the phone beat us. I am annoyed that we do not have root as it allows us to better use our own phone.
anyway, best of luck to all...
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I dont blame you homie.. If I had not managed to get a second eris after I jumped on the leakv1, I would have gone nuts watching all the badass ROMS and hacks get released and have no way to use them.
Ok everyone can quit complaining about the 2.1 update! I just checked Verizon ERis Software Upgrade page and its announced that there is an update coming soon! I know theres no date but at least it is now finally up on their site. If you dont belive me check it out your self & for those who doubted it would ever come this just shows that paicence is a virtue.
support.vzw.com/information/droid_eris_upgrade
Check out both pdf files. The Benifits of Software link states all the updates for 2.1. Enough said?
Good riddance.
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I dont blame you homie.. If I had not managed to get a second eris after I jumped on the leakv1, I would have gone nuts watching all the badass ROMS and hacks get released and have no way to use them.
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exactly...
WalkingTaco said:
Good riddance.
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suck it... what have you contributed?
Just short out the battery connection on the back of the phone with a small piece of aluminum foil, take it in to Verizon, explain how your phone just turned off and won't turn on and voila! You get a new phone the next day running stock 1.5, ready to be ROOTED!
That's what I did after installing the 2.1 leak and realized I couldn't get root. Let me tell you, my rooted Eris running Evil Eris v2.0 with the overclocked processor is far greater than my friends Moto Droid. I hope you make the right decision.
P.S. Don't be a bully.
There are always risks involved when upgrading a device, I learned that with the PSP and now other people are learning it with their Eris. Crying about it (in the wrong forum no less) is doing nothing to help.
A root will likely eventually be found, patience is the key. As soon as you just can't stand it anymore and upgrade/change device/etc you've potentially lost something forever.
One thing is for sure; I find it insulting that people feel they have a right to complain about being on leak, nobody held you down and forced you to flash anything.
Turnyface said:
Just short out the battery connection on the back of the phone with a small piece of aluminum foil, take it in to Verizon, explain how your phone just turned off and won't turn on and voila! You get a new phone the next day running stock 1.5, ready to be ROOTED!
That's what I did after installing the 2.1 leak and realized I couldn't get root. Let me tell you, my rooted Eris running Evil Eris v2.0 with the overclocked processor is far greater than my friends Moto Droid. I hope you make the right decision.
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It's not overclocked yet, it definitely doesnt do anything at the moment. And as far as shorting it out, I took mine into verizon complaining about the speakers all cutting out glitch and they didnt even look at the phone and swapped me out a new one in 10 minutes. It's not that hard really, just find someone in the store who looks like an idiot. All the smart people are in the back anyway.
Or You can not be a cheapskate and just Buy a new one..
or should I get a MOTO Droid or incredible but I still have my Eris with
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Marisa said:
There are always risks involved when upgrading a device, I learned that with the PSP and now other people are learning it with their Eris. Crying about it (in the wrong forum no less) is doing nothing to help.
A root will likely eventually be found, patience is the key. As soon as you just can't stand it anymore and upgrade/change device/etc you've potentially lost something forever.
One thing is for sure; I find it insulting that people feel they have a right to complain about being on leak, nobody held you down and forced you to flash anything.
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I second that ****!
Just Buy a Incredible Then Get Root Or Wait For It.
Cyostrife said:
Or You can not be a cheapskate and just Buy a new one..
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Not everyone has lots of money and buying a new eris outright is about 500 or so, used on ebay they go for over 300. speaking for myself I know I'd rather have the 3-500 to spend on bills and things then buying a new phone.
Even though I am kicking myself for not waiting a bit longer, I don't regret upgrading to any of the leaks. It gave me 2.1 months before everyone else. A little more patience never hurt anyone.
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Not everyone has lots of money and buying a new eris outright is about 500 or so, used on ebay they go for over 300. speaking for myself I know I'd rather have the 3-500 to spend on bills and things then buying a new phone.
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Seconded. But this thread is useless. If you're tired of waiting on 2.1 leak root then get a new phone, try and get a replacement or just sit there and use the phone like it was meant to be. There's nothing wrong with 2.1 v3 in my opinion. Telling everyone you're leaving because of it is just asking to be trolled/flamed. I suggest a mod closes this thread or something.
Sheen160 said:
Seconded. But this thread is useless. If you're tired of waiting on 2.1 leak root then get a new phone, try and get a replacement or just sit there and use the phone like it was meant to be. There's nothing wrong with 2.1 v3 in my opinion. Telling everyone you're leaving because of it is just asking to be trolled/flamed. I suggest a mod closes this thread or something.
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Agree, 2.1 is so much better than 1.5. Plus, if you want to play with your phone and "customize it" a little there are home replacements in the market you can try. Helixlauncher is really good, and I just found one yesterday on android forums, real nice. It's called Zeam, http://www.mediafire.com/?jtzjyoklenk
Little to no lag and dialer is lightning fast.
So while you might not be rooted, it's nobody's fault that root hasn't been found yet or that you (op) flashed the leak. I want root too, but have the patience to wait for it to be found. There are some of the best devs on here working on it, only a matter of time.
~ happy 2.1 v3 leak user
my point wasnt i was unhappy with anyone here. I love 2.1v3 and yes, its leaps above 1.5
Just annoyed at what I am missing. I do not want this topic to be considered trollish..

about the DK05 leak wasn't about monopoly

he is lying about the whole thing. i did not give it to people i liked...
i only gave it to people that developed for the epic and people that they trust weather i liked it or not.
I gave firon the leak of dj29 then whodaman & firon decided to leak it without my approval a week later... they have the power to leak froyo without me approving that .. it take time to test froyo.. i assure you that guy that leaked it is not a developer or a tester..
thanks the mods for closing the thread of the dk05 leak because flashing the leak is NOT SAFE!
i just don't want people bricking their phone and yes it has a signature. don't take word for it my source confirmed it..
the closed leak lasted for a week before it became out of control..
Good to know that bro!
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noobnl said:
he is lying about the whole thing. i did not give it to people i liked...
i only gave it to people that developed for the epic and people that they trust weather i liked it or not.
I gave firon the leak of dj29 then whodaman & firon decided to leak it without my approval a week later... they have the power to leak froyo without me approving that .. it take time to test froyo.. i assure you that guy that leaked it is not a developer or a tester..
thanks the mods for closing the thread of the dk05 leak because flashing the leak is NOT SAFE!
i just don't want people bricking their phone and yes it has a signature. don't take word for it my source confirmed it..
the closed leak lasted for a week before it became out of control..
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I agree it wasnt posted by many people who had it for a REASON as to prevent problems and people getting BRICKED or not flashing properly.
Sit back and think about how long the leak has been out do you all really think that if it was WORTHY of being let out to the masses it would have taken so long? No it would have been posted as a rom for mass consumption REALLY Fast....
BUYERS BEWARE
noobnl said:
the closed leak lasted for a week before it became out of control..
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I think the epic forums are out of control. As someone stated, we should all be helping eachother.
I just see noob has done a lot of amazing work for the epic, people should be grateful & all they do talk garbage & complain. I should just get my evo back & leave all this behind.
rjmjr69 said:
I agree it wasnt posted by many people who had it for a REASON as to prevent problems and people getting BRICKED or not flashing properly.
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That explains why the modem was not released. Now why wasn't the rom released?
I think the epic forums are out of control. As someone stated, we should all be helping eachother.
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They absolutely are.
I tested DJ29 for about a week and found it was good enough for a release. DK05 bricked my modem, so I didn't consider it safe.
The ROM was -probably- okay to release, but the modem is not.
It was not held back for fame or any bull**** like that.
There are too many trolls on these forums who obviously don't understand the time and patience it takes to make things like this possible.
I appreciate all the hard work you've done noob, and firon.
I really wish I had the knowledge to participate, but my time will come
halfcourtshoes said:
I think the epic forums are out of control.
I should just get my evo back & leave all this behind.
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You are dead right on this one. The Epic side of the house is unbelievably bad. Not only are things slow, at no fault to anyone here, but there is WAY too much bickering in these threads. I go to the threads concerning my EVO and love it. I come here and am continually caught off guard by the way folks are. Either way, I want my Epic to stay my main phone, so I keep coming back.
Any one know what the "phone,orange triangle and little computer" mean. I fear I bricked my phone. I can't even get into download mode now. WHen I press 1 and power up the charging battery comes on the screen. Thanks for trying to keep this from happening. This the first time I have bricked a phone in many years. Guess ut was bound to happen at some point.
Why not just release the rom + modem with a disclaimer that it may brick your phone and require an Odin flash? Also, the safety net Odin represents in itself, I think, nullifies any danger from bricking.
And another thing; don't send things to people over the internet and expect them to stay secret.
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Either way, I want my Epic to stay my main phone, so I keep coming back.
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Lol, that's my problem. I love my Epic, so I just skim through the bickering & hang around. No offense but a lot of it does seem about egos & fame, but I understand what goes into being a dev & it is nice to have recognition for your work. But at the same time it's not safe to release stuff not ready for the primetime because everyday average users looking for a better phone experience will just end up bricking their phones. & like I said, everything noob has put out has been quality work & I've never had a problem with any of it. just my two cents.
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Any one know what the "phone,orange triangle and little computer" mean. I fear I bricked my phone. I can't even get into download mode now. WHen I press 1 and power up the charging battery comes on the screen. Thanks for trying to keep this from happening. This the first time I have bricked a phone in many years. Guess ut was bound to happen at some point.
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Pull the battery and try again.
ptfdmedic said:
Any one know what the "phone,orange triangle and little computer" mean. I fear I bricked my phone. I can't even get into download mode now. WHen I press 1 and power up the charging battery comes on the screen. Thanks for trying to keep this from happening. This the first time I have bricked a phone in many years. Guess ut was bound to happen at some point.
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Hm. What you're describing sounds like you have the phone plugged in while you're trying to enter Download mode, which isn't very effective. Try plugging it out first.
Anyway we can have you guys upload DK17 at least for us to flash or odin? I can wait for the final modem...jjst want an up to date rom.
vgambit said:
Why not just release the rom + modem with a disclaimer that it may brick your phone and require an Odin flash? Also, the safety net Odin represents in itself, I think, nullifies any danger from bricking.
And another thing; don't send things to people over the internet and expect them to stay secret.
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Because despite all the warnings in the world people who should not touch things of this nature WILL and then a storm of accusations and mad people will hit the forums... What ever happened to being a MAN OF YOUR WORD? thats the beef
DONT SEND THINGS ON THE NET??? Guess you certainly would not be trust worthy
vgambit said:
Hm. What you're describing sounds like you have the phone plugged in while you're trying to enter Download mode, which isn't very effective. Try plugging it out first.
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Pull the battery and try again.
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Thanks guys. I'm not sure what was happening but I finally got it to work. Back up and running. I pulled the battery walked away and tried again and it worked.
Defiantly waiting for the ok from the people in the "know" before trying this again. Thanks for trying to protect us from ourselves. LOL
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Because despite all the warnings in the world people who should not touch things of this nature WILL and then a storm of accusations and mad people will hit the forums... What ever happened to being a MAN OF YOUR WORD? thats the beef
DONT SEND THINGS ON THE NET??? Guess you certainly would not be trust worthy
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Very well put. I am ok waiting. I don't think it's some big conspiracy. I feel better knowing that the newer radios seem to fix the gps. Now we just need to make it safer to use. Until then I'll just pull up a chair, crack open a beer and roast some marshmallows courtesy of all the flames. Anyone care to join? lol
I'm not getting dragged into another fight on here, the **** with Hero was bad enough, but I will say a few things on this issue.
1. Odin gives a safety net, and it works well.
2. The modem is safe, so long as you're competent enough to flash it right. Thats not a shot at anyone who got a brick from it, but it works fine for me and many people who flashed it successfully.
3. This ROM is essentially **** anyway. I had one of the early leaks of it, and I went back to DJ29. The music player has issues, there are UI bugs in the launcher, the camera & flashlight APIs are broken for everything but the stock camera app, and there's still the lag issue on unlock. This is all straight off a wipe as well, so it isn't that.
4. Sometimes it isn't good to give everything to the public. I don't agree with keeping it in a secret little circle for devs, but sometimes things NEED to be tested and cleaned up before they can be given to the public.
5. As for the whole thing that it was a lie that there are tags from the source in the ROM, I'm not aware of everything, but I have found a few myself. All pointing to one Korean name, who built the ROM originally, and it's the same name as on the DJ29 leaks. I'm sure you're smart enough to find it. Does that mean he leaked it? No, but it is still a liability for him and his career because it was built on his machine & probably by him as well. Some people on here are just selfish and don't realize that their craving for the latest and greatest could cost someone their job.
There. I'm done.
This is exactly why the Epic community is not progessing as fast as the Evo community, the leaks don't get put into the right hands. And progress haults, I understand your concern about bricks but maybe you should post a thread with a request for people to Close beta test and perhaps create an application that can be filled out and submitted via PM to the person in control of the leak, this could help the rom fall into the correct hands that can test and verify a rom.
Thank you.
Well when you released dj29 he lost his job then

New great devs.

Im a epic lover...... dont mean to do any fights or anything like that...
we have been in so much drama ... and i know some ppl making threads because of no havin time to read!!!! (i did it once)... anyways my point is here!!
i just saw the evo thread and for some reason they have the 2.3 ginge.. working in the evo(not full but they are in the way_) is a dirty hack from sdk but still they got it to work
we have great devs here!! (noob... bubby323.. syndicate ... and some other just to name some!!.... btw to bad for noob that he left us...) i know they can make it work!! i know is hard and it takes alot time so lets just chillax a lil./.. right now im learing how to theme ... which isnt bad .... just need lil bit more time and i know is not the same as dev... but is something!!
so i think we have the power and the ppl to make this work and only giving the best to the ppl ... without the (spr. and sammy) bootloads lol!!... so please ppl..
lets get a positive work here ... and not fight!!!... and u guys can erase this thread or not!! just want us a a commmunity to get in that same track as other phone users!!!
thanks for u time !!!
The best way to bring christmas (android) cheer, is to sing loud for all to hear! Our dev's rock, and we will be there soon, cause once our final release is dropped and the source is released we will be on the same page as the Evo. No doubt about that.
The reason you aren't seeing anything for the Epic yet is that in like 8 days they are releasing a phone almost identical to ours with gingerbread. Once the source for that rom is released, it should be a lot easier to port. Still gonna be a TON of work though.
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The reason you aren't seeing anything for the Epic yet is that in like 8 days they are releasing a phone almost identical to ours with gingerbread. Once the source for that rom is released, it should be a lot easier to port. Still gonna be a TON of work though.
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well dont get me wrong!! but if we havent get the froyo update...///and even tho sammy has work on the 2.3 (ginger...) for a few months... what makes u think we can port it ... i bellieved nexus s is not a cmda phone that make alot diff. to port it... even tho they might or do have same hardwares!!
I don't know how many people here has actually used Roms built from an SDK but there is a ton of stuff missing always that can't just be fabricated out of thin air. Sometimes though a decent rom can be made out of an SDK and a dump from another device that has all the bells and whistles. None of this matters anyways because in this subform people complain when their lock screen lags as unusable so phones would go through the wall with something that would have as many bugs as this would have.
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I don't know how many people here has actually used Roms built from an SDK but there is a ton of stuff missing always that can't just be fabricated out of thin air. Sometimes though a decent rom can be made out of an SDK and a dump from another device that has all the bells and whistles. None of this matters anyways because in this subform people complain when their lock screen lags as unusable so phones would go through the wall with something that would have as many bugs as this would have.
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+1 im running dk28 as a daily use bug free and I see threads popping up about how bad it is. 1/2 of all problems I'm reading about are install related. This also speaks to a lack of organization in the epic forum. Combine that with the spread out duplicate files all over (i think there are 3 different di18 pit files, at least 2) the whole development forum needs to be restructured. On top of that add in how critical the standards are from the users like onilink said. Have patients and quit holding the epic to the Evo just cause there is a froyo leak. When the source is out and the kernel gets overclocked, then we can start a new outlook for Epic development.
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1/2 of all problems I'm reading about are install related.
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I installed DK28 via the 3-button method, didn't do a wipewipewipe or factory reset. I have since done the wipewipewipe, and that did help speed/smoothness wise. I'm having pretty cruddy battery life though...seems like a dumb question (and I'm not sure how this could be related, but here goes) but could not doing the factory reset left some garbage in there that's causing this problem? I'm running watchdog and I don't see anything out of the ordinary, this thing just goes through the battery like a piranha on speed.
At this point, I'm seriously thinking about Odining back to DK18. I take the phone off charge at 6:30 am, and it's dead by 2pm.
A factory reset is mandatory to install froyo
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I installed DK28 via the 3-button method, didn't do a wipewipewipe or factory reset. I have since done the wipewipewipe, and that did help speed/smoothness wise. I'm having pretty cruddy battery life though...seems like a dumb question (and I'm not sure how this could be related, but here goes) but could not doing the factory reset left some garbage in there that's causing this problem? I'm running watchdog and I don't see anything out of the ordinary, this thing just goes through the battery like a piranha on speed.
At this point, I'm seriously thinking about Odining back to DK18. I take the phone off charge at 6:30 am, and it's dead by 2pm.
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Lookup how to recalibrate your battery ODIN will not help with this
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Lookup how to recalibrate your battery ODIN will not help with this
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Ok, I spent some time skerching that up and all I can say is AMEN BROTHA! I think you've hit the nail on the head. I did flash with the USB in, which screws up the battery calibration. Hopefully that will solve my problems.
Thanks again!
Well all I'm saying is evo have grea devs just like us..... all I want or the right thing to do is just a reqest... nothing also no trolling or anything like that...let's just have a great epic thread...... that's all I'm asking. And to the noob ppl here ... search before posting.... and post in the right secction
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Would be a good idea no?

Should'nt we all start posting annoying threads on Facebook to Motorola and the MS2?.. I already started see here -> http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=121867580498&topic=20102
If we all do that.. they maybe atleast see it.. and think 0,0001 second about it.. thats better than nothing..!!!!
I wist it'd be that simple. With the first Milestone they've proven that they don't know what support is.
I seriously doubt it will have any effect. We all know about the MP3 problems and wrong keyboard layout... The device has been on the market for about six months and there's still no sign of a fix for those problems. Kind of annoying, having a euro sign on the keyboard, but not being able te use it.
...and Motorola knows about those issues. They simply choose not to fix them.
these two bugs are not present in custom firmware argent2stone...
try it
I already fixed those problems in the stock ROM for now I actually quite like Blur, so I don't need it (partially) removed. Unless Argen2Stone performance is undeniably better than Stock. Furthermore I don't know if it fixes the AAC problems, so I don't feel like reinstalling it now...
Still, that isn't the point. It's about the fact Motorola should've pushed a fix for those issues. They're minor, highly annoying and not everybody wants to root their phone to fix such issues.
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Still, that isn't the point. It's about the fact Motorola should've pushed a fix for those issues. They're minor, highly annoying and not everybody wants to root their phone to fix such issues.
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Absolutely. +1

[Q] Recommendations for a ROM ICS or JB

I'm currently running Toasted Marshmallow but the camera issue is killing me. Is there a daily driver out there with a working camera? I don't really care if it is ICS or JB I just need my camera/instagram to work again. I'm also hoping I can retain my apps/data as I have been running this for a bit. I did a search and could nothing definitive. If I overlooked something please let me know. Thanks for any help!
Synthetic AospX. Also, we have plenty of threads on this so you should have looked before you posted
I did a search. This was the most relevant thing and it was posted in July. Just sayin' Anyway thanks for the heads up.
Even if there is nothing titles "best ics roms", you could have just looked at the rom threads and found which ones had rave reviews. Most of the ICS and JB roms are at the top. I am not mad at you, slightly annoyed, i just want to tell you what to do for next time.
These are the threads I cannot f*cking stand. Test out the ROMs if you want to know which one is best for you! We don't know what you like. You do. So don't be that noob that asks all the questions in the general forum (like you did) and post ROM related problems as new threads.
Also, what's this? On the 2nd page?! No way someone would dare look there.. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1494680
Have a nice day.
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jennster said:
I'm currently running Toasted Marshmallow but the camera issue is killing me. Is there a daily driver out there with a working camera? I don't really care if it is ICS or JB I just need my camera/instagram to work again. I'm also hoping I can retain my apps/data as I have been running this for a bit. I did a search and could nothing definitive. If I overlooked something please let me know. Thanks for any help!
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What is searching? Searching is definitely NOT looking something up on Google and skimming through everything. Searching CANNOT be done with shortcuts.
Now if you had really done a full search, you would've found that like you said, there is nothing "definitive", or good out there. So what does that mean..? If you don't find it out there, it probably means it doesn't exist. Like in this case right here, a great example. I, like Invasion2 hate threads like these because nobody knows what's the best for your phone, nobody knows your taste. Only you do. Sure, we can give you suggestions and stuff, but why don't you just save everyone's time and try the ROMs yourself? Does it really take that long and that much effort? It doesn't hurt to try.
You should honestly be thankful that we even have ICS and JB ROMs...HTC and T-Mobile left us on the Gingerbread side. And here you are complaining about things not working. Well no duh...you can't expect a OS that wasn't meant to be on our phone to work 100% do you? Cause if you do, then you set impossible expectations for developers.
Another thing: have you ever thought about how much effort, time, and energy were put into the development of these ROMs? Developers work hard, spend countless hours, sometimes giving up sleep to get something to just boot, and the last thing we want to hear and read in our threads is someone who thinks he deserves the work we put out to complain about this or that not working. We know it's not working, we don't need you to tell us that! Trust us, we're working hard on trying to figure out the bugs and fix them, it's not easy.
Lastly...what's wrong with Gingerbread? It's working perfectly fine for our phone. If you want to have everything "perfect and working" why not stay with Gingerbread, where everything is guaranteed to work? I'm on MIUI GB, and can't love it more. If you just want the look of ICS or JB, it's not that hard to theme Cyanogenmod 7 to look like them. And if you want to be on ICS or JB just cause it's cooler or whatever, well be prepared to sacrifice somethings, like the camera. Gingerbread is a OS that was meant to be on our device, ICS and JB weren't.
Thanks.
invasion2 said:
These are the threads I cannot f*cking stand. Test out the ROMs if you want to know which one is best for you! We don't know what you like. You do. So don't be that noob that asks all the questions in the general forum (like you did) and post ROM related problems as new threads.
Also, what's this? On the 2nd page?! No way someone would dare look there.. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1494680
Have a nice day.
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MFW I saw this post.
Also, TL: DR.
Oh FFS
I didn't ask what was the BEST. That would be opinion and I am certainly not soliciting that. I could read all day and get a million. I asked what had a WORKING CAMERA. Seems like an easy enough question for such well versed people. That being said that renders the link you so condescendingly offered completely irrelevant. So that you know the query was here on XDA for working camera mytouch4G. I wasn't complaining. I said, for my needs I need a working camera. Did I post this on the ROMs thread? No. I didn't. I was looking for a suggestion that would meet my needs, i.e. a working camera.
What happened to people on forums being decent and helpful if not nice too?
You know what I can't stand? A$$holes like you people that think that any of this makes a $hit in the big picture. You know what *I* hate? Taking care of my dad with Parkinsons and my mother that can't leave the house because she has COPD all while working two jobs. Really next to that an extraneous thread doesn't seem that bad. "$hit I have to scroll over this thread that someone who actually looked posted!"
A lot of people work hard. Some not in front of computers in the air conditioning. I appreciate that this stuff is available but please do not hang yourself on a cross. If you hate it, find work elsewhere. If you don't get out of my a$$. I'm not going to suck your d1ck either way and I doubt anyone else is either with your sunny disposition.
And good evening.
jennster said:
Oh FFS
I didn't ask what was the BEST. That would be opinion and I am certainly not soliciting that. I could read all day and get a million. I asked what had a WORKING CAMERA. Seems like an easy enough question for such well versed people. That being said that renders the link you so condescendingly offered completely irrelevant. So that you know the query was here on XDA for working camera mytouch4G. I wasn't complaining. I said, for my needs I need a working camera. Did I post this on the ROMs thread? No. I didn't. I was looking for a suggestion that would meet my needs, i.e. a working camera.
What happened to people on forums being decent and helpful if not nice too?
You know what I can't stand? A$$holes like you people that think that any of this makes a $hit in the big picture. You know what *I* hate? Taking care of my dad with Parkinsons and my mother that can't leave the house because she has COPD all while working two jobs. Really next to that an extraneous thread doesn't seem that bad. "$hit I have to scroll over this thread that someone who actually looked posted!"
A lot of people work hard. Some not in front of computers in the air conditioning. I appreciate that this stuff is available but please do not hang yourself on a cross. If you hate it, find work elsewhere. If you don't get out of my a$$. I'm not going to suck your d1ck either way and I doubt anyone else is either with your sunny disposition.
And good evening.
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I thought you'd searched around already? And since you already searched, you should've known that there wasn't a fully working camera yet. So why are you still asking this question if you know the answer already? Seriously...
You don't expect people to be nice if you rub them the wrong way do you? It's sorta your fault we're "not nice" to you...you should check out the other forums when noobs post questions like this, oh man...sh*t breaks apart the fan.
Did you guys actually read his OP ,it wasnt really that bad.He did say he searched ,granted he could of tried a bit harder,but help a guy out once in a while!I am not knockin anybody but ,not everyone knows there way around these threads like some of us do..I mean if he was being a lazy dumb ass that one thing ,but he didnt come off like that to me when i read his OP
anyways. search harder next time dude and you wont get flamed!!!
jennster said:
I'm currently running Toasted Marshmallow but the camera issue is killing me. Is there a daily driver out there with a working camera? I don't really care if it is ICS or JB I just need my camera/instagram to work again. I'm also hoping I can retain my apps/data as I have been running this for a bit. I did a search and could nothing definitive. If I overlooked something please let me know. Thanks for any help!
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I don't get why you're getting so much flac. It's not like the MT4G is flying. Most threads about ROMs are months old.
The only answer I seem to see too is Synthetic's ROM.
"If you don't have anything nice to say don't say anything at all"
I also didn't feel as if the op was a lazy dumb ass. To each his own
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Deathwish238 said:
I don't get why you're getting so much flac. It's not like the MT4G is flying. Most threads about ROMs are months old.
The only answer I seem to see too is Synthetic's ROM.
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Sorry to double post but I don't agree with this. Most roms are NOT months old and are updated. Granted some old ones aren't but for an old phone we hold our ground
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rockstarar said:
Sorry to double post but I don't agree with this. Most roms are NOT months old and are updated. Granted some old ones aren't but for an old phone we hold our ground
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Yeah. Ignore the troll. Development for this ancient phone that was only released on one continent is still moving nicely.
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Synthetic's AospX for sure. Very smooth and I use it as my daily driver.
I really, really hate people who just want to flame someone for asking a question, especially like this. Me, myself, I'VE been searching for a perfect rom for myself, and it's a PAIN to spend countless of hours when you are not experienced in messing with the phones, and you asking a simple question, than all these teenie boppers decide to start a flame war thinking they are the all-knowing, just because they design some ROMs and ports.
Now, personally the best ROM I have found so far that suits me is the CoreDroid ROM.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1434887
This seems to be the most stable ROM with best battery life that I have found after using many that keeps the original android feel to it. I have yet to find any real problems with it, seems to be the perfect one for me.
I'm currently going through most of the ROMs trying to find something else, instead of just upgrading my phone. I've tested out PacMan Glacier ROM, and honestly I'm liking that the most so far.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1933896
But again, problem is Camera freezing, panoramic does not work either, at least for me, may work for you. I'd look into that first to see how you like it. Has extensive customization options as well, so the settings screen is a little cluttered so to speak, but good for customization. I would REALLY LOVE to get this to work perfectly, cuz I will indefinitely use this (haven't tested out battery life though).
The next one from that I would check out (even though Saranhai is the one who pretty much crapped on you first) is MyTouchUX.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1826792
I would love to post what problems I've encountered in the thread, but I need to post at least 10 times or something or another before I can post in those forums. But anyways, problem I've had was that the Camera button does not work to get the camera on (but still can access the camera through the app itself), and the LockScreen still is not working in V3, at least for me. BUT panoramic does work with his, and it is really sweet. Less customization options on this ROM, but seems to be REALLY clean (couldn't get swype either, might just be me though.)
Ardanza said:
I really, really hate people who just want to flame someone for asking a question, especially like this. Me, myself, I'VE been searching for a perfect rom for myself, and it's a PAIN to spend countless of hours when you are not experienced in messing with the phones, and you asking a simple question, than all these teenie boppers decide to start a flame war thinking they are the all-knowing, just because they design some ROMs and ports.
Now, personally the best ROM I have found so far that suits me is the CoreDroid ROM.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1434887
This seems to be the most stable ROM with best battery life that I have found after using many that keeps the original android feel to it. I have yet to find any real problems with it, seems to be the perfect one for me.
I'm currently going through most of the ROMs trying to find something else, instead of just upgrading my phone. I've tested out PacMan Glacier ROM, and honestly I'm liking that the most so far.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1933896
But again, problem is Camera freezing, panoramic does not work either, at least for me, may work for you. I'd look into that first to see how you like it. Has extensive customization options as well, so the settings screen is a little cluttered so to speak, but good for customization. I would REALLY LOVE to get this to work perfectly, cuz I will indefinitely use this (haven't tested out battery life though).
The next one from that I would check out (even though Saranhai is the one who pretty much crapped on you first) is MyTouchUX.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1826792
I would love to post what problems I've encountered in the thread, but I need to post at least 10 times or something or another before I can post in those forums. But anyways, problem I've had was that the Camera button does not work to get the camera on (but still can access the camera through the app itself), and the LockScreen still is not working in V3, at least for me. BUT panoramic does work with his, and it is really sweet. Less customization options on this ROM, but seems to be REALLY clean (couldn't get swype either, might just be me though.)
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Have you noticed when the op last posted? Appreciate the efforts though
THEindian said:
Have you noticed when the op last posted? Appreciate the efforts though
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Bah, no I didn't even notice that... oh well...

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