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Different looking colors on 2 Incredibles?

I've got two incredibles side by side. Both are apparently listed as 'samsung_oled_display' with dmesg.
Right one has a purple tint that is more obvious on low brightness. But colors pop more, more contrast, saturation. On high brightness, whites and blacks look more right.
Left is slightly brighter on equal settings. Has a slight yellowy tint that's more noticeable on high brightness. But nowhere near as obvious as the purple tint.
Any thoughts? What looks more like the typical Incredible display people get?

it looks like maybe some of your LED backlights aren't as bright, or out completely. notice the shadow on the edges of the two sides? i don't notice a difference other than in one of the pictures, though. maybe do a better job taking pictures that aren't as shaky/blurry?

Best I could do, the incredible is my best camera and couldn't use it.
And which picture and which phone are you referring to?
I'm more just wondering why there's such a difference, and which one looks most accurate to what everyone else has?

3rd picture is the one i noticed it on. however, i wouldn't say....with the pictures i have in front of me....that either are too far off from what "everyone else has".
if you're that concerned about it, call VZW.

I had the same problem with a replacement, had to get a new refurb that didn't have a pink screen. Customer service is not aware of the issue, you might have to take it to a store and even the techs might not see it.
Sent from my ADR6300

I did, this is my replacement ha... I'm not going to ask for a third, I'm just deciding which one is more like the rest.
And you don't think either are too far from what others have? Between the two there's a decent variation, Samsung amoled manufacturing just vary that much?

Only the first picture can I see a noticeable difference

I'm aware of people reporting a pinkish tint, but I didn't think its the same, since this comes off as purple to me.
And yea the first picture is the most obvious, but if you just look at the color difference in white,gray,black for the other 3 pictures, you can tell they're different tones/shades.
Honestly the left one is 'warmer' in tone and the right one is 'cooler'. Though right has better contrast and is overly saturated.
I think I'll probably keep the left one even though the right one is hands down amazing looking in full brightness, but looks all purplish in low, which is basically the setting I'll be using the phone most in.

Amoleds don't have background leds, the pixels emt the light themselves, as fat as I know
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patches152 said:
it looks like maybe some of your LED backlights aren't as bright, or out completely. notice the shadow on the edges of the two sides? i don't notice a difference other than in one of the pictures, though. maybe do a better job taking pictures that aren't as shaky/blurry?
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OLED doesnt use backlighting

Just pick the one that is easiest on your eyes. Yes colours will vary differently by batch (not usually by this much but really I can't tell a lot by these pictures). Personally to me overall one doesn't appear as bright as the other, so if they are using the same profiles, I'd take the bright one (but that's just me).

I think you are making a mountain out of mole hill. They both look ok, yes different but acceptable. It's a phone, you are not going to be doing Photoshop or high end video processing. If it bugs you, by all means take it back and ask for an exchange.

Oh I did, that's why I have two
And no I'm not, I can easily ask for a third. But like I said I won't.
I just thought I can get some expert opinions from others, -and- start a discussion.
There was a thread regarding evo's @ i6.photobucket. com/albums/y204/blu3g/002and003.jpg
that got some discussion.

gedster314 said:
I think you are making a mountain out of mole hill. They both look ok, yes different but acceptable. It's a phone, you are not going to be doing Photoshop or high end video processing. If it bugs you, by all means take it back and ask for an exchange.
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They get dimmer over time, so yes the brighter one if in newer condition.
I'd prefer S-LCD to AMOLED anyday just for the fact that I dont have to worry about the screen dimming over time or burning in.

My girlfriends is like that. We both got our phones at the same time last June, same screens. She lost hers, and while her new one is AMOLED it's pinkish. It's only REALLY noticeable when the screen dims.

.... Seriously? You're complaining about a tint... A TINT!!!! the phone still works the same right? my replacement has the purplish tint too but who cares nobodies going to look at and say oh man your phone has a purplish tint what a fag lol

He was just asking a question because like most people on this forum, we are intrigued by how tech works, and we like to ask why do gadgets so the things they do, he wasn't complaining. Everybody who is saying that he needs to stop complaining needs to calm down, this isn't 4 chan. If you don't know why the screens are different colors, then there's no point in you commenting on this thread, especially if its to talk down to somebody under false accusations like some of you are.
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i jsut got a replacement in the mail a week ago and i saw the same differences between my old one and new one. And i've heard of this happening to other people. Here is a thread all about this. I havent taken the time to read it but im sure it has the answer http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=656128
P.S. Garrett, you sound like a real douche

I've seen similar in my phone. I had to turn it in for a replacement and the first thing I noticed when I booted the new phone up was "hey, that white looks more pink than the original phone." Just to make sure I wasn't insane, I showed my wife the new phone and she immediately pops out "hey, that looks pink."
It's not bad enough that it's really a problem, just a little different, and the difference only really pops out at low brightness. I'm not going to re-return over it. At least this one doesn't have the spazzed out and possessed optical joystick that my first Inc did.

Im here to confirm some issues on galaxy s2 as normal

Hey, i have a samsung galaxy s2 and just like some of you i had been struggling to get a proper phone with no overheating and the weird blue tint on the screen when you view the screen from different angles, i have noticed very few galaxy s2 without this blue shifting problem when viewed the screen from another side and i can explain why at 5):
1) Ive swapped my phone 2 times now, the first, the second, the third and the manager phone all reproduce this issue, the screen looks just fine when viewed straigth but if you try to view it from another angle the screen will turn a bit to blue, it is most noticeable in white backgrounds.
Since i have tested 4 random phones with exactly the same problem i can confirm this "feature" as normal.
2) All of my three phones have blurring issues when in motion, you can clearly see it when the text is white and the background is black, altough this blurring is very small compared to the top of the line LCD screens its still there on all 3 phones so i can confirm this as normal.
3) The 2 phones i had all had random overheating issues, this must have something to do with either a design flaw or lack of quality in programming the OS for the phone, this is also normal for your phone to happen as it happened in the last 3 of mines, the only way ive found to avoid this issue is simply exit all applications, clear memory ram and then start the app, this semms to prevent my phone to reaching insane levels of heat.
Heres a list of apps some people and i reported to overheat the phone:
Gun Bros - Checked
Pocket Legends - Unchecked
4) The speaker quality of the phone is at best, average, when the volume is set to max, some sounds like "pure tone" will distort just a bit, its very dissapointing in a phone this expensive, but then again samsung cannot be compared to sony in that area, i can also confirm this as normal.
5) The phones ive seen which did not have the blue tint issues when the phone is viewed from other angles had another problem when compared to the ones that actually did: The phone that did have blue tint issues, when viewed directly has very good Whites while the phone which does not have the blue tint issues when viewed from another angles even when looked at it directly it already has a shade of blue, so that might explain why this problem wasnt detected in that phone.
6) When you view in a browser some images, you will notice that on your left corner of the screen there is a white pixel, dont worry, it is not a dead pixel, to confirm this all u need to do is to view the picture horizontaly, notice how the white pixel changed sides with the top left corner?
According to BarriH_GEG, It's there to keep a service alive in support of hardware acceleration in the stock browser. They chose white because the majority of web pages are white or lighter colors
7) Poor wifi conectivity while holding the back of the phone with both hands, it happened in all 3 of my phones aswell, this is also probably normal.
8) The screen displays a slight shift of color at the left side of the screen, its very hard to notice but its there, people refer to it as "yellow tint", for more information please visit this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1079444
Thanks to: Sp1tfire for letting me know about this issue, i cannot confirm if this issue is normal or not for all phones as ive only done this test on my third phone (which also semms to slightly change hue a bit in that thread OP website, its almost unoticeable but its there).
9) When viewing white objects with the camera on low to medium light condition there is a pink circle noticed in the middle of the picture, i havent tested this with all 3 phones but from i can tell in this thread it happens on all of them:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1079444
Thanks to: Sp1tfire for pointing this issue also.
10) A bit less significant but still noteworthy: if you change your brightness setting in a dark room or area from auto to manual and put it at max, exit the brightness setting and try to put it back to automatic, you will notice that its stuck at max even though it should drop it alot, to fix this all you need to do is to flash a light source at the upper front side of your phone and then take it away, it will now work again.
Notes: If the phone is viewed directly and has a blue tint on it, it is broken, if it displays of red tint or yellow tint its also broken and you should trade it if it bothers you, make sure to scan for dead pixels by using full screen images of blues, reds, greens, black and white. If the image is pure to those colors and theres 1 or more pixel displaying something differently that means the phone has dead pixels and should be also swapped.
Hope this helps some people to not waste their time like i did, i feel a bit disapointed because my first phone apparently had nothing wrong with it, so at least i can help you not to make the same mistakes as i did.
After swapping my phone 2 times and finding these issues, i would surelly want to trade it for an alternative! but unfortunatelly reality came to me everytime the shop manager asked: "Do you want the same model or a different one?" Then it made me think, what model? Sure Xperia Arc and Play are cool phones, but they dont come even close to the performance of this phone and honestly none other dual core phones have OLED screen and even compared to those this phone is alot better in performance, so i came to realise there was really no choice, if i wanted the best in performance and the best in image quality then this phone was, is and will be the answear for time to come.
These issues do not bother me very much as my third phone is still a galaxy s2 but every person is different, if it bothers you that much then in the end you can always think of the future and what phones it reserves, if you want the best in performance and image quality right now then this phones is the answear.
Best Regards!

TheWarKeeper said:
Hey, i have a samsung galaxy s2 and just like you i had been struggling to get a proper phone with no overheating and the weird blue tint on the screen when you view the screen from different angles, i have noticed very few galaxy s2 without this blue shifting problem when viewed the screen from another side and i can explain why after this:
1) Ive swapped my phone 2 times now, the first, the second, the third and the manager phone all reproduce this issue, the screen looks just fine when viewed straigth but if you try to view it from another angle the screen will turn a bit to blue, it is most noticeable in white backgrounds.
Not my phone .
2) All of my three phones have blurring issues when in motion, you can clearly see it when the text is white and the background is black, altough this blurring is very small compared to the top of the line LCD screens its still there on all 3 phones so i can confirm this as normal.
not my phone
3) The 2 phones i had all had random overheating issues, this must have something to do with either a design flaw or lack of quality in programming the OS for the phone, this is also normal for your phone to happen as it happened in the last 2 of mines, i will check if it happens in the third too and will post back results in this thread.
Overheating NO but does get warm at times .
4) The speaker quality of the phone is at best, average, when the volume is set to max, some sounds like "pure tone" will distort just a bit, its very dissapointing in a phone this expensive, but then again samsung cannot be compared to sony in that area, i can also confirm this as normal.
Excellent headphone sound as good as i need/want .
But its user choice i have problems phone goes back to seller .
Somebody points out i have a problem that i cannot see but i have this problem as they say then unless i see it it is not a problem .
jje
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JJEgan said:
Not my phone .
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+1
I think people have much different expectations.

JJEgan said:
TheWarKeeper said:
Hey, i have a samsung galaxy s2 and just like you i had been struggling to get a proper phone with no overheating and the weird blue tint on the screen when you view the screen from different angles, i have noticed very few galaxy s2 without this blue shifting problem when viewed the screen from another side and i can explain why after this:
1) Ive swapped my phone 2 times now, the first, the second, the third and the manager phone all reproduce this issue, the screen looks just fine when viewed straigth but if you try to view it from another angle the screen will turn a bit to blue, it is most noticeable in white backgrounds.
Not my phone .
2) All of my three phones have blurring issues when in motion, you can clearly see it when the text is white and the background is black, altough this blurring is very small compared to the top of the line LCD screens its still there on all 3 phones so i can confirm this as normal.
not my phone
3) The 2 phones i had all had random overheating issues, this must have something to do with either a design flaw or lack of quality in programming the OS for the phone, this is also normal for your phone to happen as it happened in the last 2 of mines, i will check if it happens in the third too and will post back results in this thread.
Overheating NO but does get warm at times .
4) The speaker quality of the phone is at best, average, when the volume is set to max, some sounds like "pure tone" will distort just a bit, its very dissapointing in a phone this expensive, but then again samsung cannot be compared to sony in that area, i can also confirm this as normal.
Excellent headphone sound as good as i need/want .
But its user choice i have problems phone goes back to seller .
Somebody points out i have a problem that i cannot see but i have this problem as they say then unless i see it it is not a problem .
jje
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lol not your phone because u dont bother or dont know how to look for those problems, there are people in this forum who reported these issues, the point of this thread is to tell them the experience i had myself with it and to help them conclude that unfortunatelly it is normal .
Your phone will have that problem aswell since its how the phone is made, the only way for you to not overheat is to not use the apps i and some other ppl are using, and the only way for you to not have the blue tint when looking at different angles is your phone already having a slightly blueish white, independently of any angle viewed.
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Yes oh wise one i shall indeed pay lip service to your well informed ramblings and bow down before you the fount of all knowledge .
What time is the next meeting of the flat earth society pray do tell .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmvCpR45LKA
jje

Rofl, not another yellow-tint type thread

Well the guy has done some serious research on 4 phones out of the 5 million or is it 55 million sold .
He sees a problem on four so by definition you have been told YOU and the millions of others have a problem don't argue its a scientific test .
jje

Why couldn't this be added to the many other threads. Please stop speaking for every sgs2.
1- only time I can see any kind of blue tint is if my eye is literally at the charging port. Non issue here.
2- wtf are you talking about. No lag/blur whatsoever here. Only time I see anything considered lag is on the lockscreen but that's the CPU.
3-my phone gets warm when playing intensive games(samurai 2-ps1 emu) after playing a long time. I've had phone since release day and never have gotten uncomfortable hot. I also ran my cpu at 1.7 for 2 weeks using tegrak. Running at 1.5 with cognition rom now with no overheating.
4- I run a grooming salon with mostly dogs, cats and some birds. I listen to my 30gb of music from 9-6ish. I can clearly hear music from speaker over barking dogs all day. Volume at 30% with stock headphones. And this is over music/advertisement playing from loudspeaker. I do use dsl manager to add more base and also poweramp.
5. See number 1
6. Can't see a white pixel left right up or down the screen. What I thought was a dead pixel the first day of ownership quickly disappeared. I have no issues besides the useragent desktop default.
Please stop speaking for everyone. I think there's roughly 3+ million sgs2 sold, we would see more people having your issues.
Remember specially with forums people(noobs/trolls) with complaints typically post more in general section than user without. If you actually read thru threads there's not that many users having the issue.
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Rofl, not another yellow-tint type thread
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Was it the "many other people" reference that tipped you off

This is a silly post. Please speak for yourself. No problems other than the phone getting hot sometimes which is expected. Go get an iphone

blunted09 said:
This is a silly post. Please speak for yourself. No problems other than the phone getting hot sometimes which is expected. Go get an iphone
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That's harsh. There's a vocal minority that gets revved up about certain issues. It's real to them and I think they feel it is or should be to everyone else too. The ironic thing is when you look at the other dual-core phones the SGS2 has 1/10 the issues. Perfect's a great ideal but doesn't exist. It's always funny when people pick one feature from another phone and bash the SGS2 because it's not as good. Life doesn't work that way. If your Nokia camera's so great, swell. Than stick with a single core Symbian phone. Unless a do-it-yourself hardware kit is released that allows you to use a Nokia camera, SE display, Nexus Wi-Fi, and someone else's GPS you take the good with the bad. For the vast majority the SGS2's good way outweighs the bad and judge the phone on the sum of its parts. Different strokes for different folks.

no clue what you guys are trying to proove except that youre oblivious to these problems... its how the phone is made, theres no such thing as oh they probably made a worse manufacturing process on ur phone screen, you just cant notice it because u dont know how to look for it...
PS for anyone who says they cant see any blurr in motion, if u cant see it on a 2msgtg lcd screen then you will surely not know how to look for it in this oled phone as its alot less noticeable.
Ive never said yellow tint phones were normal, i said that blue tint when changing angle of view is.

BarryH_GEG said:
Unless a do-it-yourself hardware kit is released that allows you to use a Nokia camera, SE display, Nexus Wi-Fi, and someone else's GPS you take the good with the bad. For the vast majority the SGS2's good way outweighs the bad and judge the phone on the sum of its parts. Different strokes for different folks.
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Actually, i thought of starting a thread named something like "The perfect phone" where you add different parts/hardware/software from different phones and build your ideal phone. Obviously, i won't, although would be fun to see people's opinions about the perfect screen, perfect camera, etc.
P.S. Thank God i have a poor eyesight and i'm such an ignorant, this way i can consider my phone to be very close to perfection

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This is a silly post. Please speak for yourself. No problems other than the phone getting hot sometimes which is expected. Go get an iphone
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So you're saying that if someone wants a phone without any issues, they should "go get an iphone"?

slick69 said:
So you're saying that if someone wants a phone without any issues, they should "go get an iphone"?
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rofl im amazed at how many trolls are in this forum, but i guess i should be used to amateurs talking trash... eh? forgot to mention another issue as normal, will update thread soon
EDIT: first post updated, im considering adding gun bros and pocket legends to overheating list, what do you guys think?

TheWarKeeper said:
rofl im amazed at how many trolls are in this forum, but i guess i should be used to amateurs talking trash... eh? forgot to mention another issue as normal, will update thread soon
EDIT: first post updated, im considering adding gun bros and pocket legends to overheating list, what do you guys think?
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May i add another issue to your list ? Out of the 3 million units sold, some have psychotic owners. Fortunately, problem is not that widespread as the yellow-tint issue.

Sp1tfire said:
May i add another issue to your list ? Out of the 3 million units, sold some have psychotic owners. Fortunately, problem is not that widespread as the yellow-tint issue.
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I cant see how that is an issue with the phone though

OP thanks for the post - very good & informative, at least for new SGS2 owners or potential SGS2 owners.
Too bad that some people here act so pathetic and start bashing.
I can confirm the "issues" on mine.

DSF said:
OP thanks for the post - very good & informative, at least for new SGS2 owners or potential SGS2 owners.
Too bad that some people here act so pathetic and start bashing.
I can confirm the "issues" on mine.
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thanks, glad youve found it usefull, that was the whole point of the thread, to make people rest knowning that these are not faults experienced only by them, it happens on all phones, even though someone mentioned there are 5 million of those phones sold, seeying 4 random samsung galaxy s2 phones with the exact same list of "issues" is more than just a "coincidence" as a user pointed out.
Ive also specified why some very rare phones have no blue tint visible.
PS: Even though i see an updated version of gun bros today i can still sense it heating up a bit, im not letting this one reaching the point of overheating but if anyone is interested in knowing where it overheats, it happens mostly on the upper side of the phone leaving the down side only a bit warm, to avoid this overheating what i do is go to applications and exit all of them, go to ram manager and clearing it up, this prevents my phone from overheating in that game to insane levels.

added gun bros, pocket legends, wifi conectivity issue and light sensing to the list.

Light blobs on black screen

Anyone else notice lighter blobs on their screen when a black app is loaded?
Try the night clock and tell me if you see any.
I use my phone as a clock at night and I just got this today and wow is it noticeable.
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groaner said:
Anyone else notice lighter blobs on their screen when a black app is loaded?
Try the night clock and tell me if you see any.
I use my phone as a click at night and I just got this today and wow is it noticeable.
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I also had that issue on my first unit, I had it replaced.
A quite bellow summarizes all the screen issues on the S2.
BarryH_GEG said:
There's really two separate issues that sometimes overlap:
1) The left side banding which appears along with a yellow tint either under certain conditions or, to some, in everyday use. This would seem to be a design issue as, to date, it shows up on every single phone produced.
2) Screen QC issues which include: 1) suction cup circles from production, 2) fingerprints on the inside of the display, 3) dead pixels, 4) vertical or horizontal lines, 5) ghosting, 6) white or black blotches, and 7) wide swings in color temperature.
There's no doubt the QC issues are probably vexing to Samsung. Based on the sheer quantity of displays they need to produce to satisfy demand they're either intentionally allowing displays to go out that shouldn't or are finding out from customers that bad displays got passed QC. Considering the large number of phones sold it's hard to guess the bad:good ratio but it would appear its larger than appropriate. And it doesn't appear to be getting better as newer builds seem to have the same issues as early builds. So banding may be forever but swapping phones may definitely help with the other issues.
I do think that adding the QC issues on top of the banding issue does compound it on some phones. That could certainly explain why some of us are happy and others aren't. There's still a lot of subjectivity at play so it will always be hard to say if what's acceptable to some is unacceptable to others. But with all the phones sold, you'd still think if more than a few percent had serious screen issues there would be a bigger audience for this thread and the issue(s) would have become more prominent on its own. I'd like to think things will get better but production demands may continue to allow QC issues to occur at higher than normal rates. Something that's frustrating for everyone - including Samsung.
Someone said something about the technology being flawed. Here's two links to stories where Apple was/is trying to get SAMOLED for their products. To me, it just helps reinforce that the benefits (color, contrast, viewing angles) still outweigh the downsides (screen life, burn in, inconsistency). And I'm sure Apple's engineers fully reviewed both the upside and downside before considering SAMOLED so it's still kind of a vote of confidence in the technology.
http://www.intomobile.com/2010/05/2...y-for-iphone-hd-4g-due-to-supply-constraints/
http://www.electronista.com/articles/11/05/26/we.rebuff.rumor.of.amoled.ipad.3.in.2011/
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Thanks!
I'll have to get back there to have it replaced.
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I've had it replaced 3 times now, I'm on my 4th unit. I can exchange one more time before I have to send it out for repairs.
I'll wait for them to get a new shipment in with different serial numbers (all the ones i've had start with the same 4 digits) and hope i get clean ones.
I called Samsung and the rep i spoke to told me that they have not heard of this issue.
Well they have 3 units in their back room with this issue so they will see it.
I think I will have to take a long-exposure photo to show them what the issue is.
Fingers crossed the next shipment is clear.

groaner said:
I've had it replaced 3 times now, I'm on my 4th unit. I can exchange one more time before I have to send it out for repairs.
I'll wait for them to get a new shipment in with different serial numbers (all the ones i've had start with the same 4 digits) and hope i get clean ones.
I called Samsung and the rep i spoke to told me that they have not heard of this issue.
Well they have 3 units in their back room with this issue so they will see it.
I think I will have to take a long-exposure photo to show them what the issue is.
Fingers crossed the next shipment is clear.
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I've seen this isseu quite often when I had my phone exchanged mainly for a different screen defect, just be warned though since you had so many exchanges some people here might not actually believe that you went through 4 phones because 6Million phones sold and all that jazz.
Good idea that you decided to wait for another shipping, maybe you can even get a refund and just buy from another store that has good stocks?

I don't care what other believe or not. If they want to see my receipt plus the 2 exchange receipts I have here in this bag beside me I'll send them a picture.
Regardless, I must be one of the few people who have this screen problem AND use the phone as a night clock.
I am posting this for information to anyone who also has experienced or may wonder if their phone also has this issue.
If you dont have it, GREAT! I wish I had your phone.
(ps, this isnt a rant, just want this to be over)

I have zero issues with my screen; no ghosting, yellow/pink tint, light bolbs etc.
but no one believes me

groaner said:
I don't care what other believe or not. If they want to see my receipt plus the 2 exchange receipts I have here in this bag beside me I'll send them a picture.
Regardless, I must be one of the few people who have this screen problem AND use the phone as a night clock.
I am posting this for information to anyone who also has experienced or may wonder if their phone also has this issue.
If you dont have it, GREAT! I wish I had your phone.
(ps, this isnt a rant, just want this to be over)
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Someone else in Canada (Toronto) went through five phones because of tinting issues with the display. He too exchanged them back-to-back from the same store. If you've been going to the same store, and there was a run of bad displays, all the phones built in sequence could be effected. Can't you go to a different store and exchange it there?

Have the same problem, its like blobs/smudges that are lighter black/greyish. Not an even black color.
Its best noticeable in a dark room without any other light, not even the light of the touch buttons or top bar active (so your eyes are adjusted to seeing in the dark). Using this image I can see it clearly. Auto adjust screen power doesn't influence it.

I think we all may have blobs to varying degrees. The other day I looked at my screen in bright sunlight with polarized sunglasses on. It made the screen look black but you could clearly see random beige blotches all over it. In normal use I think my screen is as close to perfect as there is and when looking at a black background in the dark I don't see blobs or blotches. The "O" in AMOLED stands for organic which means alive. Maybe what we're seeing is a by product of the technology.

Nivekius said:
Have the same problem, its like blobs/smudges that are lighter black/greyish. Not an even black color.
Its best noticeable in a dark room without any other light, not even the light of the touch buttons or top bar active (so your eyes are adjusted to seeing in the dark). Using this image I can see it clearly. Auto adjust screen power doesn't influence it.
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You got it too!
Well, i'm glad I'm not alone sorry that you have it too.
Hopefully I will get a call from the store when the new shipment comes in and the issue will go away.
I tried going to another store and was told DOA's could not be exchanged at other stores that they had to go back to the store it was purchased at.
It is likely that all phones at Bell at all the stores at the same time may well come from the same batch.
I can wait over the weekend. I bought it on the 1st so still have most of my 30 day period to do the exchange. after that its repairs only. trying to avoid that.
I tried to get back the first one I had as it didn't have it as bad as all the subsequent ones I've had. Once a phone is marked DOA it can not be resold until it has been reconditioned and put back through the system. Understandable.

BarryH_GEG said:
I think we all may have blobs to varying degrees. The other day I looked at my screen in bright sunlight with polarized sunglasses on. It made the screen look black but you could clearly see random beige blotches all over it. In normal use I think my screen is as close to perfect as there is and when looking at a black background in the dark I don't see blobs or blotches. The "O" in AMOLED stands for organic which means alive. Maybe what we're seeing is a by product of the technology.
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I agree and I can accept some imperfections but I'd like to get as close to "perfect" as I can seeing that I had it in the beginning (WHY didnt I keep the first one?!)
Oh well, I'll take what I get with the new shipment and be happy with it,unless there is functional issues, then I'll be

BarryH_GEG said:
In normal use I think my screen is as close to perfect as there is and when looking at a black background in the dark I don't see blobs or blotches. The "O" in AMOLED stands for organic which means alive. Maybe what we're seeing is a by product of the technology.
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Well good you don't see any blobs or perhaps you are suffering from a certain degree of Nyctalopia. Sometimes a disorder is not bad, see no evil ... Nonetheless the O in AMOLED doesn't stand for alive, just for a chemical compound containing molecules with carbon.
I must add that two Galaxy S (i9000) models I have looked at don't have this issue, at all. The screens are fully and equally the same black tint/shade. Taking a picture to capture the problem has proven to be somewhat difficult, but this old camera probably isn't really anything to write home about these days.

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Well good you don't see any blobs or perhaps you are suffering from a certain degree of Nyctalopia. Sometimes a disorder is not bad, see no evil
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OCD is also a recognized disorder in which the pursuit of perfection overtakes one's life. If I had problems with my phone I'd have no problem sharing them. I've posted tons of pics of my phone in the dark, in the light, on grey, showing apps, and at every brightness level between 0% and 100%. I'm not going to apologize because I have a decent screen. Though I do sympathize with those that aren't satisfied for whatever the reason.

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OCD is also a recognized disorder in which the pursuit of perfection overtakes one's life. If I had problems with my phone I'd have no problem sharing them. I've posted tons of pics of my phone in the dark, in the light, on grey, showing apps, and at every brightness level between 0% and 100%. I'm not going to apologize because I have a decent screen. Though I do sympathize with those that aren't satisfied for whatever the reason.
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I dream of having a phone like yours.
I'm glad that all i have are these splotches on the screen in the darkness. it is not viewable at any other time and all other functions of the phone are perfect.
I can live with the splotches if i have to but would prefer to not. I'll exchange one more time and leave it.

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I dream of having a phone like yours.
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I'm sure I'm not special. If you look at the low level of participation in the display threads either people have low standards or the majority of phones are like mine. Even within the display threads, 50% of the posts are by the same dozen or so people. In the other Canadian display thread a bunch of people from Toronto posted they had no problems. So keep spinning the wheel, you're bound to get lucky.

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OCD is also a recognized disorder in which the pursuit of perfection overtakes one's life.
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Obsessive–compulsive disorder is not how you describe it, perfectionism is. Some more of this perfectionism for a company like Samsung would not be bad at all.
It was not meant to be taken seriously anyway (hence the smiley). Albeit a joke, people whom suffer from night blindness will of course not see this particular issue though.
While I believe I did not post in the other display problem threads. I do have yellow tint and pink/blueish shade from all angles except from front. Which of course doesn't make it sound like a decent and proper SAMOLED+ display at all. Since I have a Galaxy S that doesn't exhibit these problems, it of course makes me a little disappointed.

Nivekius said:
Obsessive–compulsive disorder is not how you describe it, perfectionism is. Some more of this perfectionism for a company like Samsung would not be bad at all.
It was not meant to be taken seriously anyway (hence the smiley). Albeit a joke, people whom suffer from night blindness will of course not see this particular issue though.
While I believe I did not post in the other display problem threads. I do have yellow tint and pink/blueish shade from all angles except from front. Which of course doesn't make it sound like a decent and proper SAMOLED+ display at all. Since I have a Galaxy S that doesn't exhibit these problems, it of course makes me a little disappointed.
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I wasn't attacking you, just having a little fun trading disorders. I actually considered myself anal retentive until I started participating in this forum. ;-)
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The anal stage, hmm no let's just leave Freud there. He doesn't have blops on his screen anyway.
I can not exchange my phone, probably because it was included for "free" with a Vodafone plan, even though I just have it a couple of days. The shop implied I could sent it in for repair but I am reluctant to do that for various reasons.

bruflot said:
I have zero issues with my screen; no ghosting, yellow/pink tint, light bolbs etc.
but no one believes me
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Not all phones are affected with the same assortment of issues but I find it hard to believe that your phone does not have any ghosting, its an limitation on the SAMOLED+, Im not saying your lying but I dont believe that claim either. For the yellow banding on the left side user to user and phone to phone subjective.
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I must add that two Galaxy S (i9000) models I have looked at don't have this issue, at all. The screens are fully and equally the same black tint/shade. Taking a picture to capture the problem has proven to be somewhat difficult, but this old camera probably isn't really anything to write home about these days.
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One of my thoughts also point to that a lot of S2 owners are first time users of SAMOLED screens, hence they dont know what to expect or have an entire low level of expectations. The S2 is my 3rd phone with a SAMOLED based technology and pretty much the expectation should be higher than the first generation SAMOLED right?
But all people say that these defects are expected are we are the minority as millions and millions of phones getting sold but theres no "internet media coverage" about it and they start bringing in other phones as a comparison when the only comparison needed is the previous generation SAMOLED.
I was initially very disappointed on this until I had my phone exchanged (Had to sort out over a dozen phones) and also XXKGx firmware alleviated the yellow banding, right now Im happy with what I got but I can be happier if the quality on the SAMOLED+ surpassed the first generation, The regular SAMOLED is superior in every way even if it was pentile. I just gotta hope for the best when the SGS3 and SAMOLED HD comes out.
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The anal stage, hmm no let's just leave Freud there. He doesn't have blops on his screen anyway.
I can not exchange my phone, probably because it was included for "free" with a Vodafone plan, even though I just have it a couple of days. The shop implied I could sent it in for repair but I am reluctant to do that for various reasons.
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This could also be a possible reason why Samsung has never said anything about the display issues on the S2, a lot of shops are refusing exchanges and sending customers to the service center and have repairs instead, probably Samsung has informed its retail channel that they will be replacing deadpixels only anything should be dealt with by the retailer.. well just a conspiracy theory =)

[Q] Strange vertical lines on brand new device

Hi guys.
Just recieved my brand new Nexus 4. Haven't rooted anything yet but I can notice some strange vertical "lines" of no colour. You can just say they are present and they give some weird discoloration, seen especially in the Settings menu,
Also noticed that my Antutu 3.0 closed itself (dunno why... it's 2GB of RAM...) only once and after one of several Antutu benchmarks there were some red lines... rectangles or some other stuff moving across the screen while in multitasking menu.
Now I'm a bit worried aboy the lines especially. Does it mean that I've just got a faulty device
Please check your Nexus 4's: just set the brightness to maximum and go to the Settings menu. If you see such not moving vertical lines (they are slight but still enough noticeable to see!) please report.
I live in Poland and I really would not want to RMA it since I would have to send it back to US...
EDIT: To add, the lines are especially seen on grey background, if it matters. But I can barely see them on my main screen too... I've also thought about the protective foil which is still present on both the front and back of my Nexus, but I don't think it may be causing it...

That's almost a description of the digitizer grid. Normally if it's at all visible it would require direct sunlight at specific angles. It would appear as metallic dots in vertical lines that reflect the sunlight. Perhaps the digitizer got bonded to the glass incorrectly? Give it a few days and see, it's well known that some bonding issues stabilize after a short while. If it's still very noticeable and bothers you, RMA the phone.

LateNiteLife said:
That's almost a description of the digitizer grid. Normally if it's at all visible it would require direct sunlight at specific angles. It would appear as metallic dots in vertical lines that reflect the sunlight. Perhaps the digitizer got bonded to the glass incorrectly? Give it a few days and see, it's well known that some bonding issues stabilize after a short while. If it's still very noticeable and bothers you, RMA the phone.
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I'm almost sure it's not digitizer. I've seen it a few times on my dad's Xperia Neo V, and it just looks totally different. Also, I really can't see any dots. The thing that bothers me is the lines seem to be standing in their place all the time... I haven't seen this yet on any phone,
But, as you said, I'm giving it a few days. Also, I'll compare the screens when my 2nd Nexus arrives, so I'll find out if it's an issue or is it just normal (if it really CAN be normal...).

not in any particular order. factory reset it. get z-device test from the play store and run a test on the screen. dont run benchmarks on this phone. many people are having issues. and dont overclock. people are bricking their phones. i think they overheat.

Shouldn't be anything to worry about

Anyone got these lines or am I the only one to worry about them... :/ ?

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Anyone got these lines or am I the only one to worry about them... :/ ?
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Are you able to get a picture for us to see and compare?
I have lines, more like dots when angling the phone. They look like solar panel reflection, as a description. Only visible under strong sun light.
I also see rectangle impressions at certain angles;
-CC

Here it is.
They're a little less noticeable in reality (I wanted to show them clearly), but they are. It becomes really annoying especially on one-colour backgrounds (greys!) and when swiping screens from one side to another.
Maybe it will cure itself? I really wouldn't like to do an RMA since, as I already mentioned, I live in Poland, and it would be pain to send it back to US and wait another months for new one (likely with some issues too...).
Please report whether you've got these.
PS. I also see those rectangles, but only at a very specific angle, and these are really not noticeable at all. All that bothers me are these lines...

I also get these lines when I turn the brightness up high

So I guess I'm not alone with this (issue?). If anyone spots the lines please report. It's really important to me as I'll be living with this device for probably a year or so and I really don't want to know that my phone is defective...
It's so sad; except lines, the phone is absolutely perfect; no overheating, no earphone buzz (at least not noticeable during calls at all), no yellow screen spots, no flickering, decent battery life... And now this.
Crap. Maybe that's just another "Nexus 4 feature" ?

Got my 2nd Nexus today and it's also got that strange banding. Guess it's somehow just normal...

You're seriously whining about this?? Really?!

nbell13 said:
You're seriously whining about this?? Really?!
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Not entirely. It becomes noticeable mainly in dark rooms, and I really like to browse the Web in my bed on my Nexus 4
I guess I am becoming used to it now. It starts to be less noticeable, especially outdoors where it can't be seen at all. So I'll just stick with that and probably keep the phone.

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Got my 2nd Nexus today and it's also got that strange banding. Guess it's somehow just normal...
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I am experiencing the exact same issue you are describing and am worried myself. I just opened up my phone today. Did you end up RMAing the device? With people claiming that this is one of the best displays out there, it seems like more people would notice this problem, especially since it is so noticeable from the settings menu.

Here's a picture of the screen banding.

Yeah same issue here guys ... Already some post about it. I'm used to see thèse now but very visible at high light and grey or setting background.

gagaohlala said:
Yeah same issue here guys ... Already some post about it. I'm used to see thèse now but very visible at high light and grey or setting background.
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So do all nexus 4s have this issue or should we be RMAing our devices?

i have this too...
why does iPhone 5 get display from lg and dont have this issue but lg themselves do?
strangely apple can handle lg's screens better than themselves
kind of sucks...
this is one of those things that once you've seen it you cant unsee it
i also have a little bump on my aluminum bezel you cant see it but everytime i scroll on the left side on the screen i feel it...

So I guess the majority of Nexus 4 devices have that, but bany users can just not be aware of this issue.
That kinda sucks, but for this price... it's totally acceptable for me

Just like to say that I also have them, they are more visible at higher brightness.

Fix uneven/yellow screen with intentional burn-in

So I was on my 2nd Nexus 6P and like the first it had an uneven screen. Normal/slightly pink at the top and at the bottom it's more yellow. Instead of returning it I've decided to try and fix the yellow tint by intentionally causing a burn-in on the over-enthusiastic green pixels in the bottom half of my screen.
To do this I flashed a kernel which unlocks the high-brightness mode of the display, the awesome EX kernel, set my screen timeout to 15 minutes and left the display turned on for 3x15 minutes in high brightness mode with a black-to-green gradient open full screen in the Photos app (absolutely nothing else on screen). After each of the 15 minutes I checked the progress, after the 3rd time I considered it done. I'm happy to report that this has nearly eliminated my uneven screen problem.
So far I've seen no ill effects, just a nice even screen.
I used this black-to-green gradient that was a close match to where my screen was yellow. My first 6P had a different pattern of yellowness, so that would have required a different gradient, more like black-green-black.

Interesting, the normal slightly pink at the top transitioning to yellow at the bottom describes the screen on my original nexus 6P and it's replacement.
I'll look into giving this a try as well.

I´m not sure if something like this could be considered as a defect. If you look at a very high angle, you might see some sort of "rainbow effect" on the screen. You should be careful about "burning in" Pixels in a Amoled screen. High brightness will wear out the LEDs faster than you think. At least this is how I remember my old Samsung Galaxy S3 but maybe Amoled technology has improved a lot.

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I´m not sure if something like this could be considered as a defect. If you look at a very high angle, you might see some sort of "rainbow effect" on the screen. You should be careful about "burning in" Pixels in a Amoled screen. High brightness will wear out the LEDs faster than you think. At least this is how I remember my old Samsung Galaxy S3 but maybe Amoled technology has improved a lot.
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I can't really comment on if the OP's method is safe or not, but it is worth noting that the gradient/tint change is noticeable even when viewed straight on under normal use, such as browsing etc.
It could sort of be likened to the old TN based flat screens from a number of years ago where the top and bottom looked slightly different colours, however a lot of this was down to narrow viewing angles. I'm wondering if the same applies to the specific AMOLED display used by the 6P as well.
The AMOLED screens on my Moto X 2nd Gen and Moto X Force don't have the same problem.

I have a slight purple tint too on the screen but it is only visible on a white background. It does not bother me, if you set a higher brightness it is barely visible. Maybe all Nexus 6P have this sort of display and you simply have to live with it.
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I can't really comment on if the OP's method is safe or not, but it is worth noting that the gradient/tint change is noticeable even when viewed straight on under normal use, such as browsing etc.
It could sort of be likened to the old TN based flat screens from a number of years ago where the top and bottom looked slightly different colours, however a lot of this was down to narrow viewing angles. I'm wondering if the same applies to the specific AMOLED display used by the 6P as well.
The AMOLED screens on my Moto X 2nd Gen and Moto X Force don't have the same problem.
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Would you happen to have a before image for your screen? I would like to try this on my phone but can't say for sure what exact color the uneven section is. Most of the screen seems to have a pink tint that fades into a green/yellow tint in the bottom left corner. I don't want to stress the wrong color accidentally.

Can you post before and after pics of your screen please?

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I have a slight purple tint too on the screen but it is only visible on a white background. It does not bother me, if you set a higher brightness it is barely visible. Maybe all Nexus 6P have this sort of display and you simply have to live with it.
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Its a well known characteristic of samsung AMOLED screens. Samsung users have been complaining about this for some time. Its actually worse on the sgs6. But more brightness will make it less noticeable. Honestly, if you forget about it and stop focusing on it, you will stop noticing it.

Yeah I understand some are really bad you should send it back.but if its slight. There's no.point obsessing about it. It takes the joy away from using the phone

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Yeah I understand some are really bad you should send it back.but if its slight. There's no.point obsessing about it. It takes the joy away from using the phone
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It's impossible not obsessing about it since the display is very thing you look at when using a phone, people wouldnt tolerate if it was an LCD, dead pixels or any other defect at the advertised price, but since it's amoled we should be expected that these errors occur.
The issue on slight displays is that the screen is uneven on white, so its impossible to ignore on web browsing and how dark ui and gapps is not provided by Google, I would prefer it to be slightly pink/blue all over not half so you won't notice it.
Not meaning to rant and whine but consumers shouldn't have to accept this or fix the issue themselves, when I show the phone of friends, they notice the inconsistent white background and are shocked when I say its something you have to live with, the features are not going to outweigh the display issue
The joy of the phone is still there, just wish they implement quality control.

I complained about this on my Nexus 6. Ended up buying and returning a total of about 8 phones from various stores until i found the "perfect" one. Its incredibly irritating when you can notice it and its the first thing you see when the pixels light up. Some people may care more than others but im not willing to compromise anymore. AMOLED displays look great, but LCDs seem to have a better yield or QA. I was of course down voted and flamed about this. Good to see people starting to take action against garbage quality AMOLEDs.

ariekanarienl said:
So I was on my 2nd Nexus 6P and like the first it had an uneven screen. Normal/slightly pink at the top and at the bottom it's more yellow. Instead of returning it I've decided to try and fix the yellow tint by intentionally causing a burn-in on the over-enthusiastic green pixels in the bottom half of my screen.
To do this I flashed a kernel which unlocks the high-brightness mode of the display, the awesome EX kernel, set my screen timeout to 15 minutes and left the display turned on for 3x15 minutes in high brightness mode with a black-to-green gradient open full screen in the Photos app (absolutely nothing else on screen). After each of the 15 minutes I checked the progress, after the 3rd time I considered it done. I'm happy to report that this has nearly eliminated my uneven screen problem.
So far I've seen no ill effects, just a nice even screen.
I used this black-to-green gradient that was a close match to where my screen was yellow. My first 6P had a different pattern of yellowness, so that would have required a different gradient, more like black-green-black.
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This post is old but I wanted to try this nonetheless. You can't just burn in or wear out the pixels in such sort of time no matter what. 45 mis is not enough to cause such an effect. I tried it as I have a screen with the same exactly issue but there is no change. And I did it for far more than you. I let it all the night long for 3 days. There was no change. I don't think you can fix this issue this way (or any other way)

You guys keep saying "AMOLED issue". I bought 6p after having OnePlus X - it has AMOLED without any issue, it was perfect screen! Nexus 6p is great phone, but screen really bothers me... I hate, but I need to replace the phone. And I am not sure whether I will get a good phone or not. Support told me that if I would ask for replacement - they could send me a refurbished phone. Only buying new will give a new phone. I can still return it as I have it for few days...

mariojas89 said:
You guys keep saying "AMOLED issue". I bought 6p after having OnePlus X - it has AMOLED without any issue, it was perfect screen! Nexus 6p is great phone, but screen really bothers me... I hate, but I need to replace the phone. And I am not sure whether I will get a good phone or not. Support told me that if I would ask for replacement - they could send me a refurbished phone. Only buying new will give a new phone. I can still return it as I have it for few days...
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Hey,
Seriously, a refurbished device just after a few days? Like you had it for 10 months, lol? Is it Huawei?
Escalate the case to a supervisor and don't give up until you get a "proper" new phone!
Good luck...