Should I buy? - Gen8 General

Hi all, my name is jazux and I'm thinking of buying archos 70 IT. Now I got few questions 1. Is there android 2.3 uptade for A70IT? 2. Can this tablet dualboot (like hd2 can)? 3. When you play games like angry birds, raging thunder 2 and Dillo hills does it lag even a little bit? 4. Does the device break easily? 5. Is a70IT going to get any more android uptades? 6. How do you flash ROMs on this tablet? Odin, uptade.zip 7. Should I by a70 or a101? Thanx in advance
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jazux said:
1. Is there android 2.3 uptade for A70IT?
2. Can this tablet dualboot (like hd2 can)?
3. When you play games like angry birds, raging thunder 2 and Dillo hills does it lag even a little bit?
4. Does the device break easily?
5. Is a70IT going to get any more android uptades?
6. How do you flash ROMs on this tablet? Odin, uptade.zip
7. Should I by a70 or a101? Thanx in advance
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1. Yes
2. Sry I don't know
3. No, just if in the background are many other programms
4. Normally not
5. Yes
6. Sry, I don't know
7. In my oppinion you should buy the a101 it's better
If i could help yiu dont forget the thanks button ;-)

jazux said:
2. Can this tablet dualboot
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Ok i rode that it cant, if im wrong correct me pls

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ArchosRocker said:
1. Yes
2. Sry I don't know
3. No, just if in the background are many other programms
4. Normally not
5. Yes
6. Sry, I don't know
7. In my oppinion you should buy the a101 it's better
If i could help yiu dont forget the thanks button ;-)
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Ok so when you say there will be future android uptades is this going to get 2.4, 3.0 or 2.3.3 uptade and where is this information from? Also why is 101 better? I fought they had identical specs (except screen)
Oh and this tablet has dedicated GPU?
Btw, can't thank you because I'm on my phone
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jazux said:
Ok so when you say there will be future android uptades is this going to get 2.4, 3.0 or 2.3.3 uptade and where is this information from?
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I found a thread on Archosfans.com ,if you are not sure ... google is your best friend
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Also why is 101 better? I thought they had identical specs (except screen)
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There are not much differences with A70 and A101, but the A101 has more fixes than the A70 (i think i rode) because its a "newer" version off the A70.
jazux said:
Oh and this tablet has dedicated GPU?
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I don't really know but u can ask my friend @Lennb he will give u an good answer i think ^.^
jazux said:
Btw, can't thank you because I'm on my phone
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Me too

ArchosRocker said:
I found a thread on Archosfans.com ,if you are not sure ... google is your best friend
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This is just a rumors thread Offical there won't be updates to Android Versione over 2.2.
But i think there will be urukdroid versions with 2.4 or 3.1 And maybe we're getting cyanogen to run (search here on xda)
There are not much differences with A70 and A101, but the A101 has more fixes than the A70 (i think i rode) because its a "newer" version off the A70.
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Nope, wrong information Its completly the same (except of screen and full-size usb host)
I don't really know but u can ask my friend @Lennb he will give u an good answer i think ^.^
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Here i am
To Gpu:
Its not the best but not bad! I play this games: Shift/GunBros/Settlers HD without any lags
You can look at my Poll thread here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1042249
Peoples wrote here why they bought an Archos Tablet.
This should help you
You can post you questions to me here, but i'll response them at first on sunday, i go away over weekend

I purchased and Archos 7 for my son this past Christmas and I really considered it a great purchase until.... We bought a Nook Color a couple of months ago. Much larger developer support network. Cyanogen 7 runs great on the Nook Color. Nook Color feels more substantially constructed than the Archos. Cost is almost identical, we picked ours up for $200 from the BN EBay store when they had a big push a couple of months ago.

i'd suggest getting a nook color instead. it's sturdier, better screen and cheaper. lots of active dev going on with it too.
the archos shines in the multimedia playback dpt though. it'll play all kinds of files and has very good sound quality. however, it's screen isn't very good - the 101 is even worse, almost as bad as the gtablet's screen.
the 70 i had and the 101 i have lock up a lot when doing more than 1 thing or trying to do things too fast, like multitab browsing. the 256MB of RAM limits your performance. the nook has 512.
so it all depends on what you want. a 7" tablet, go for the nook color (or galaxy tab wifi - it's hardware is the same as the nook's, the 3g has better hardware). for a multimedia powerhouse, the archos is better; the galaxy tab is almost as good.

I want to use my tablet mostly for gaming, i mean like games that requires high end devices and music and a little movies maybe, but nook has only 800mzh cpu... so is it good to play games?
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And if i decide to buy archos i will make my own custom ROM based on android 2.2 would people like that or does everyone use urukdroid?
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I just sold my archos 101, I highly reccommend you to not get the archos..altough games were "payable" it had some issues and lags
get a honeycomb tablet, the most inexpensive (and hard to find) is the asus transformer..which is only US $400

I use urukdroid atm because its the best and i test things with lenn for $auron , but if honeycomb for android is coming i take it then (i think) ;-)

This was a very good tablet for its price 6 months ago. It is now still good, but if you can get the transformer with Honeycomb with only 100 $ more... just do it.
In any case I have a very good experience with the 101. It does sometimes have some lag, but I wouldn't say that the device is overall slow, it's just OK. Raging Thunder is perfect. Most games I have tried also run smooth (except Fruit Ninja which lags), but I don't really use many resource hungry games.
Having more ROMs developed is always good in any case.
Let me repeat it: the 101 is indeed a good tablet, whith lots of interesting features (full size USB, HDMI, and the kickstand!!!!), but getting a for 100 $ more is probably worth the price difference (unless I am missing some lacks of the transformer).
Be careful that the build quality of the 101 is also not fantastic. It's not really bad and I have no problems at all with mine, but it's mostly made up with plastic, not metal, I am quite sure that it would break if it fell even from relatively low heights. The screen also breaks easily, using a hard case is recommended. Also, the viewing angles of the screen are quite bad, but you will get used to this.

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[Q] Only some questions about the Transformer

Hi all!
I'm thinking about getting a Transformer tablet. So I have some questions before:
1.) Can the battery be removed (I don't think so)?
2.) Heard something about running Ubuntu on the tab. Is dualboot (Android - Ubuntu) possible?
3.) How about updates? It is no stock-Android, right? So how do they call the Asus-UI? And how is Asus' update politic? Good/bad? And how is the support if you have problems with the tab (guarantee and so on)?
4.) Is the bootloader unlocked? How about custom-ROMs (I like flashing my Galaxy S, just btw )?
5.) What about apps? The tab has a much higher resolution than the most smartphones. Do you see most apps fullscreen or just a little bit (don't know how to describe it , but I hope you know what I mean )?
6.) Is the screen resistant against scratches (like Gorilla Glass on my SGS)?
7.) Is it possible to open Microsoft Excel- and Word-documents (couls do this on my Galaxy S withSamsung's pre-installed office software).
Thanks,
LB115
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1.) Can the battery be removed (I don't think so)? no
2.) Heard something about running Ubuntu on the tab. Is dualboot (Android - Ubuntu) possible? not yet
3.) How about updates? It is no stock-Android, right? So how do they call the Asus-UI? And how is Asus' update politic? Good/bad? And how is the support if you have problems with the tab (guarantee and so on)? asus have been fast with updates so far via ota and web
4.) Is the bootloader unlocked? How about custom-ROMs (I like flashing my Galaxy S, just btw )? not sure, think so, you can flash alt kernels etc
5.) What about apps? The tab has a much higher resolution than the most smartphones. Do you see most apps fullscreen or just a little bit (don't know how to describe it , but I hope you know what I mean )? most apps scale well to fit the screen, some games just appear small in the centre of the screen, not many though.
6.) Is the screen resistant against scratches (like Gorilla Glass on my SGS)? yes gorilla glass, very tough
7.) Is it possible to open Microsoft Excel- and Word-documents (couls do this on my Galaxy S withSamsung's pre-installed office software). yes it comes with polaris office which will open those.
Wow, thank you very much for the quick answer!
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It is running stock honeycomb with custom systemui icons nothing more.
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But it won't get Google updates like the Nexus S and Nexus One?
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I'm not so sure many other people will reply here based on that, lol.
Since it's not "google branded", you won't get updates as fast IMHE, but updates have been quick. Just picked mine up today and love it, and I've come from many 2.x android devices and ipads. Honeycomb rocks 'em all!
Lunchbox115 said:
Hi all!
I'm thinking about getting a Transformer tablet. So I have some questions before:
1.) Can the battery be removed (I don't think so)?
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Not sure. Probably possible for the dock, don't know about the tablet.
2.) Heard something about running Ubuntu on the tab. Is dualboot (Android - Ubuntu) possible?
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There are two ways to run Ubuntu on it. One is chroot, which lets you run both at the same time (sort of like a virtual machine). You connect to the instance of Ubuntu using VNC though, so don't expect miracles.
The other technique is booting it instead of Android. This is still being developed, but it's coming along very quickly and I hear that the first release should be ready today. Right now you can only dual boot by replacing the recovery partition (which is used to install firmware updates and normally occupied by Clockwork Mod on rooted systems), but I think they should come out with boot loader once Ubuntu is fully functional.
3.) How about updates? It is no stock-Android, right? So how do they call the Asus-UI? And how is Asus' update politic? Good/bad? And how is the support if you have problems with the tab (guarantee and so on)?
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So far updates have been pretty good, though you can forget about firmware updates if you're going to root it.
4.) Is the bootloader unlocked? How about custom-ROMs (I like flashing my Galaxy S, just btw )?
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Custom ROMs (e.g. PRIME ROM) and kernels are available. You can get root access, CIFS, TUN and overclocking support (I've heard it can go to 1.4 usually).
5.) What about apps? The tab has a much higher resolution than the most smartphones. Do you see most apps fullscreen or just a little bit (don't know how to describe it , but I hope you know what I mean )?
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Smartphone apps resize really well, you wouldn't even know they were designed for a smartphone if you didn't know what to look for. They do tend to be a bit inefficient about using the screen though.
There are also some apps designed for tablet usage which work well.
6.) Is the screen resistant against scratches (like Gorilla Glass on my SGS)?
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It's gorilla glass (same one used in iPads, IIRC). But it's a touch screen, so I'd suggest going with a screen protector to be on the safe side (plus I found the friction of just the glass to be too high). Not to mention the screen is very reflective, so a matte screen protector works wonders...
7.) Is it possible to open Microsoft Excel- and Word-documents (couls do this on my Galaxy S withSamsung's pre-installed office software).
Yes - comes preinstalled with Polaris Office, which supports Word, Excel and Powerpoint documents.
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@syntrix: it's just the customised signature of the XDA Premium app.
@rdnetto: thank you very much!! I looked for Iconia-reviews too but I think I'll buy the Transformer tab.
BIG thanks to all helpers!
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Thinking about starting a Fire

I'm thinking about getting a Kindle Fire. I really don't know what I'd quite do with a tablet, but I imagine I could find some uses for it. I don't really read books very often, so I wouldn't use the Fire as an e-reader.
The main thing I think I'd use it for is web browsing and IRC, and thus begs one my main questions: how is browsing on a 1024x600 display? Is it able to display full websites well?
Next, I don't really like the default Fire UI. It seems like too much of a novelty. How easy is it to root the tablet and install a custom ROM? How stable are any of the ICS ROMs right now?
Last, I just don't know if I really need it. If I do get a Fire, I'd get it at Walmart. With their $50 gift card offer and my 10% associate discount, I figure I can grab one for about ~$130. At that price point, it seems like too good of a deal to pass up, but I don't know if I should just save my money on something else or just bite the bullet and buy one. I'm still kicking myself on not jumping on the $99 TouchPad deal last year. LOL.
Thanks.
I bought my KF for 200$ a week ago & Im still amazed with what this thing can put up. You should have no problem browsing webs or playing games at all, & I even love the default browser better than dolphin or opera xD (really love the side-touch menu )
And the stable roms would be those CM7 with ICS theme, rooting can be a bit hard at first but after 2 days you should get everything on the track
After buying this, I thought to myself how fool I was to pay 700$ for my old japanese 3d smartphone
I use my KF to read and web browsing and it's perfect for it. I'm using a Ics rom and is almost perfect. It has just few bugs, nothing important, at least for me.
The root is really easy, just use the KFU, you can find it in the developer thread.
For me was a great purchase, I highly recommend it.
beanboy89 said:
Next, I don't really like the default Fire UI. It seems like too much of a novelty. How easy is it to root the tablet and install a custom ROM? How stable are any of the ICS ROMs right now?
Thanks.
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Short of rooting and installing a new ROM, you can simply download and install the "GoLauncher EX" from the market (free). No rooting necessary. It's a fantastic replacement for the Fire UI and it gives the tablet the look and feel of "Gingerbread." Neall
Thanks for the replies thus far! I've just been looking into alternative launchers for the Fire instead of doing a full-out root/custom ROM. Some of the third-party launchers look pretty nice and really look to give the Fire a proper tablet appearance. I assume Google Apps (Gmail, Maps, Market) are available for non-rooted devices? Those are a must for me.
Browsing is fine. Definitely capable of running almost every site. Rooting is easy. Haven't tried ICS ROMs yet, only messing with my themes for now.
::google apps are not available for nonRooted devices (to my knowledge) -- yes it sucks, but rooting is made easy for that reason :>
You would need to root your KF to install the Android Market and get those apps, but with the information on the forums it is very easy. The first handful of threads in the development forums have all the information you need.
Picked it up tonight. It's got some nice hardware. For now, I've installed ADW.Launcher EX to give it more of a Gingerbread feel, but something just feels a bit off compared to a proper Android 2.x experience. I can't quite put my finger on it.
Root and install CM7 and that feeling will go away.
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Root and install CM7 and that feeling will go away.
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+1 btw rooting is easy as ****. The tough part is installing a recovery. At least I had a few scares
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if you want a tablet i would suggest aganst the fire. its a great device that is primarily for reading books. here at xda it has been transformed into a tablet but i truely believe a native tablet is the way to go in terms of video and web consumption.
yes the kindle can handle it but a native tablet can do it better. also please consider the smaller ram, processor and non expandable memory
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if you want a tablet i would suggest aganst the fire. its a great device that is primarily for reading books. here at xda it has been transformed into a tablet but i truely believe a native tablet is the way to go in terms of video and web consumption.
yes the kindle can handle it but a native tablet can do it better. also please consider the smaller ram, processor and non expandable memory
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YMMV. I had been debating on weather to buy a KF or an ASUS Transformer. I know, huge difference in price and specs. My co-worker has had an ASUS for a couple of months now and he loves it. But I ask him what he does with it and he plays a few games, checks email, facebook, internet...maybe watch a few videos and listen to music.
Well I bought the KF this week from WM and promptly rooted and flashed CM7 (barebones). I couldn't be happier. It does all of the things I just mentioned. It may not play Tegra games....but that's not a big deal. We have at home an Xbox 360, PS3, a laptop and PC, plus two iPod touches and my EVO 3D. So we are covered for gaming purposes.
Last night I watched video over my sling box Dish DVR and it worked very well. Then I watched a video over Hulu Plus and it was fantastic. Haven't tried Netflix yet (we quit a few months ago).
So for $150 (Walmart this week) vs. at least double that for the Asus or more. The KF meets my needs and probably most everyone else's too.
Swapped out ADW.Launcher EX for GO Launcher EX. GO seems to be a bit more stable than ADW and seems to be a lot more customizable. It's becoming a bit more usable. I'll probably not bother rooting and installing any ROMs until ICS becomes a bit more stable and mature.
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YMMV. I had been debating on weather to buy a KF or an ASUS Transformer. I know, huge difference in price and specs. My co-worker has had an ASUS for a couple of months now and he loves it. But I ask him what he does with it and he plays a few games, checks email, facebook, internet...maybe watch a few videos and listen to music.
Well I bought the KF this week from WM and promptly rooted and flashed CM7 (barebones). I couldn't be happier. It does all of the things I just mentioned. It may not play Tegra games....but that's not a big deal. We have at home an Xbox 360, PS3, a laptop and PC, plus two iPod touches and my EVO 3D. So we are covered for gaming purposes.
Last night I watched video over my sling box Dish DVR and it worked very well. Then I watched a video over Hulu Plus and it was fantastic. Haven't tried Netflix yet (we quit a few months ago).
So for $150 (Walmart this week) vs. at least double that for the Asus or more. The KF meets my needs and probably most everyone else's too.
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i bought mine from craigslist and am pretty happy with the fire. lol i actually paid for half of it with giftcards. haha. i mostly screw around on the "tablet" but miss the hdmi and usb of the thrive sometimes. for about 100 buxs i can live without it though
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+1 btw rooting is easy as ****. The tough part is installing a recovery. At least I had a few scares
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Rooting and installing bootloader/recovery are all quite easy thanks to the Kindle Fire Utility (latest version 0.9.3 works well with latest 6.2.2 kindle firmware), but i think the hardest part for most users is getting the correct ADB drivers installed so your PC can actually speak the same language as the Kindle (there are great guides for all of this though). Once that part is done, the rest is a breeze with KFU. I just installed barebones CM7 last night and am VERY impressed. Only FC I have gotten so far is when using the XDA app. Ironic?? Happy rooting!
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beanboy89 said:
Swapped out ADW.Launcher EX for GO Launcher EX. GO seems to be a bit more stable than ADW and seems to be a lot more customizable. It's becoming a bit more usable. I'll probably not bother rooting and installing any ROMs until ICS becomes a bit more stable and mature.
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Have you found a way with GoLauncherEX to disable the status bar that's always showing? I know that some apps disable it natively, but it bugs me that the status bar is always showing as well as the GoLauncher dock. Seems repetitive. But maybe there's a way in the settings and I just couldn't find. However, I did install CM7 last night which uses ADW by default and I'm pretty impressed with how swiping down will hide the status bar/notification area and give you a totally full screen experience. Very nice for screen-gazers such as myself!
I started with root and the Go launcher which ran well but I decided to try out the beta cm9 build and it is amazing. Its still very much a work in progress but so much more suited for a tablet. Runs like a dream and most apps install with no problems. Even video is working pretty well (just no Netflix)
You could expand the kindle's memory with few wires, male/female adaptor, and a hardrive/smartphone/w.e

First Impressions of a new 10.1 owner.

Just got a new 10.1 yesterday and gave myself a day to see how much I like it. Speed is always a big deal for me. Im actually typing from the tab now. The keyboard isnt too bad, but I dont see a autocorrection so far, but have not looked into it. The speed of the Touchwiz and homescreens is much better than most had me believe. I dont have any lag between the tapping of the arrow and the animation to show the quick apps.
The tablet also came fully updated, as far as the tablet shows through the update wizard. I will eventually check up the dev section and make sure I have the latest update today or tomorrow. The touchscreen does show a bit of lag as far as drawing with the fingers but isnt too bad and rougly on course with the A100 from Acer, my previous tablet. Battery is also great, and came 50% charged when I bought it, and didnt drop below 40% for the 4 hours I had used it before throwing it on the charger and watching some youtube and netflix.
Anyways, that was a quick review, and I love the tablet as of right now, when I thought the Tw UX was going to be a pain, but hasshown to be opposite and not too bad.
Thanks,
Mike
I just ordered one of these. I dunno if I'll get it since the contract was too good to be true. Nonetheless, if it get it, it'll be a worthy successor to my übermodified ZTE Light.
try ADWlauncher ....is the best by far for interface
Go launcher HD... not on market, Google it .
It works flawlessly.
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You should get "ADWlauncher Ex"
It's a very good launcher replacement, better than the stock one.
For the keyboard, you can try Thumb Keyboard
both apps aren't free... but it's worth it
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Just got a new 10.1 yesterday and gave myself a day to see how much I like it. Speed is always a big deal for me. Im actually typing from the tab now. The keyboard isnt too bad, but I dont see a autocorrection so far, but have not looked into it. The speed of the Touchwiz and homescreens is much better than most had me believe. I dont have any lag between the tapping of the arrow and the animation to show the quick apps.
The tablet also came fully updated, as far as the tablet shows through the update wizard. I will eventually check up the dev section and make sure I have the latest update today or tomorrow. The touchscreen does show a bit of lag as far as drawing with the fingers but isnt too bad and rougly on course with the A100 from Acer, my previous tablet. Battery is also great, and came 50% charged when I bought it, and didnt drop below 40% for the 4 hours I had used it before throwing it on the charger and watching some youtube and netflix.
Anyways, that was a quick review, and I love the tablet as of right now, when I thought the Tw UX was going to be a pain, but hasshown to be opposite and not too bad.
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Mike
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Thanks all forth replies. I havebthe thumb keyboard already, but don't need a new launcher or anything yet, since the stock is working perfect. The next next thing I'm waiting on is the ics update in the coming months. I do plan to root this soon, but won't use an ics Rom since I use the cameras often. I may throw Task or overcome on this instead while I wait. Overall a very good tablet, and the detail is amazing as far as the resolution and everything else goes.
mvan4310 said:
Thanks all forth replies. I havebthe thumb keyboard already, but don't need a new launcher or anything yet, since the stock is working perfect. The next next thing I'm waiting on is the ics update in the coming months. I do plan to root this soon, but won't use an ics Rom since I use the cameras often. I may throw Task or overcome on this instead while I wait. Overall a very good tablet, and the detail is amazing as far as the resolution and everything else goes.
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I have never liked ADW launcher and tried the Go HD launcher today and I don't like it either.. I'm with you, I enjoy the stock one the best..
Thumb Keyboard ROCKS and so does HD Widgets and Reader HD..
Task 14 is just as fast as ICS and its rock solid and stable...
Enjoy the Tab, I still love mine 6 months after buying it...
Mine came with Swype built in (a TMobile tab) and I rooted it, and uninstalled the installed version and use the newest one from their site. I just love the black keys.
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Go launcher HD... not on market, Google it .
It works flawlessly.
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Although, I've tried this and readily liked it. Isn't it still in beta2 with next to no options for changing anything? It's been a few days since I've checked so maybe its been updated again.
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Although, I've tried this and readily liked it. Isn't it still in beta2 with next to no options for changing anything? It's been a few days since I've checked so maybe its been updated again.
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Its still beta 2 with zero options..
I have a gift through my ADSL company to bring 3 guests
P7500 is the white model. I bought a white cover and buyincoins amazonUK an adapter to make memory cards and USB flash drives.
the hard disk via USB (2.5) do not work, ask for energy.
morrit said:
I have a gift through my ADSL company to bring 3 guests
P7500 is the white model. I bought a white cover and buyincoins amazonUK an adapter to make memory cards and USB flash drives.
the hard disk via USB (2.5) do not work, ask for energy.
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If you're needing help with the hard disk, you need to search first, and then if nothing is found make a new thread in Q&A section.
It will probably be missed in here and considered rude hijacking someone elses thread.
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If you are on HC 3.2 you are alright, but if still on 3.1 I'd news astonished if you liked the touch wiz. It its just horrible. ADW EX its the lightest and the most heavily customisable. The most appealing is spb 3d. It its amazing but uses more ram.
However congrats for your new tab and hope you enjoy it;-)
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If you are on HC 3.2 you are alright, but if still on 3.1 I'd news astonished if you liked the touch wiz. It its just horrible. ADW EX its the lightest and the most heavily customisable. The most appealing is spb 3d. It its amazing but uses more ram.
However congrats for your new tab and hope you enjoy it;-)
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The stock experience was great. Im using task 14 now and honestly don't see very much improvement in speed, but I always love a custom rom and root. Honestly I prefer stock launchers over custom ones for no apparent reason .

HTC Desire HD compared to HTC One X [both on android 4.0 and Sense 4]

Hello everybody.
If anyone is interested how our device performs next to the "big boy" like One X, here is a video showing you exactly that.
Besides, it prooves absolutely the oposite of what HTC have said about our device running better android 2.3.5 than android 4.0.
Make love, not war!
miHah
I started watching this video and then he started talking. Clothes instantly came off.
Benicio del Toro??????
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Great video! What ROM are you using?
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Yes, would be interessting to know which ROM is used on the DHD. Runs really smooth in my opinion. Currently i'm using Virtuos Infinity v1.30.0 Alpha 1.
This video actually doesn't prove a thing. You usually don't see much of a difference unless you did something more resource heavy than what I saw him do in the video.
Thanks a lot man U have just confirmed what we all were suspecting. This device is more than capable for running ICS and HTC just want us to buy another cellphone
nemo09 said:
Yes, would be interessting to know which ROM is used on the DHD. Runs really smooth in my opinion. Currently i'm using Virtuos Infinity v1.30.0 Alpha 1.
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It's using Primo s v3.5 as you can see when he gos to the software version
Actually marl30 is right, you can take any phone and do those things fairly quickly, the difference is in the heavy using. What is the point of having ICS if your phone will not be able to play games as smoothly as it used to before. Some people would say they don't need games, but that is not the issue. A company such as HTC is obliged to provide a ROM with full functionality, heavy gaming included. If in their opinion DHD is not capable of running games on ICS the same way it was on GB then their not releasing ICS for DHD would be fully understandable. Although I tried gaming on HTC and must say that there is little difference in performance. The issue is that the drivers are not perfect and sometimes there are glitches on the screen or some lights missing.
haerigrek said:
Actually marl30 is right, you can take any phone and do those things fairly quickly, the difference is in the heavy using. What is the point of having ICS if your phone will not be able to play games as smoothly as it used to before. Some people would say they don't need games, but that is not the issue. A company such as HTC is obliged to provide a ROM with full functionality, heavy gaming included. If in their opinion DHD is not capable of running games on ICS the same way it was on GB then their not releasing ICS for DHD would be fully understandable. Although I tried gaming on HTC and must say that there is little difference in performance. The issue is that the drivers are not perfect and sometimes there are glitches on the screen or some lights missing.
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1- little difference.
2- nothing is perfect, even htc's last oficial rom was buggy
3- of course there are glitches, devs here are either porting from other phones or building from ground up and doing a hell of a good job.
4- and yeah, I do agree with your initial statement - but that is not the issue as stated beforehand.
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Don't get me wrong, I also think we should get ICS or even JB. I believe that it would run like hell on our DHDs. I'm only saying that you can't compare those two phones barely on such mundane tasks like opening an sms app or launching facebook. The test with locking and unlocking the phone is just playing stupid. You can take any new phone and compare it to any old phone and the result will be the same, the task is designed to be easy on the phone so to be accomplished quickly.
Try running these two through a benchmark or measure the framerate on some gameloft games (Asphalt, GT Motor Academy etc.) the difference will be huge.
Quite frankly, to me the only viable reason for us is the fact that HTC One V (or One S) is actually the same phone as our DHD but with ****ty camera, and that thing is getting ICS. So if the same hardware with worse camera can operate sufficiently under ICS why can't the DHD. It obviously is a scam on us customers to make us leave the great device that we have and go spend our money on some new HTC phone. If you ask me that whole thing with ICS helped me with a decision, I know now that my next phone will not be HTC, probably SGS III or Note 2, at least they get support.
haerigrek said:
The test with locking and unlocking the phone is just playing stupid. You can take any new phone and compare it to any old phone and the result will be the same, the task is designed to be easy on the phone so to be accomplished quickly.
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Yes, but both devices use same software so its only the matter of hardware (and cpu scheduler) how fast they unlock But yea, it clearly did not proove anything besides that Desire HD can run Ice Cream Sandwich like big phones can. I think that was the point?
Well, almost. What I meant was that running ICS is one thing, other thing is to run apps on ICS. In the same way you can compare an old PC and a new PC. Old one will run games ok under Win XP. New one will run games the same under Win7. But if you install Win7 on the old PC the system itself will run fine, simple tasks will run as well as on the new one but you will not be able to play your games anymore.
haerigrek said:
Well, almost. What I meant was that running ICS is one thing, other thing is to run apps on ICS. In the same way you can compare an old PC and a new PC. Old one will run games ok under Win XP. New one will run games the same under Win7. But if you install Win7 on the old PC the system itself will run fine, simple tasks will run as well as on the new one but you will not be able to play your games anymore.
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Comparing windows to android is like comparing a toyota to a benz.
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The idea is the same. Comparison to windows was merely to exemplify my point.
haerigrek said:
The idea is the same. Comparison to windows was merely to exemplify my point.
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I got your point (edit: maybe I didn't), but it is not the same to put a benz engine in a toyota frame than a toyota engine in a benz.
Android is basically linux (someone correct me if I wrong), and linux is developed in such a way you can put it in older machines and works much better than windows in the same machine.
If android follows the same philosophy, then there is no reason why a fully optimized ics or jb can't work on our dhd's/inspires.
I may be wrong and I may have digressed from your initial premise, if I did sorrry.
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Teichopsia said:
I got your point (edit: maybe I didn't), but it is not the same to put a benz engine in a toyota frame than a toyota engine in a benz.
Android is basically linux (someone correct me if I wrong), and linux is developed in such a way you can put it in older machines and works much better than windows in the same machine.
If android follows the same philosophy, then there is no reason why a fully optimized ics or jb can't work on our dhd's/inspires.
I may be wrong and I may have digressed from your initial premise, if I did sorrry.
Sent from a dream.
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You are correct. Because every update does not make the system resource heavy, but its optimized so it runs smoother and buttery good, like jelly bean. Its not like windows - they are heavier and heavier because they want people to buy new computers. Remember - windows has 85% sales when people buy windows preinstalled on computers. You cant compare it with android or cars (cars and engine - you are talking hardware here, we are all about software)
miHah said:
Hello everybody.
If anyone is interested how our device performs next to the "big boy" like One X, here is a video showing you exactly that.
Besides, it prooves absolutely the oposite of what HTC have said about our device running better android 2.3.5 than android 4.0.
Make love, not war!
miHah
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I.. do not fully understand. You show a video proving the animation speeds are the same? If im not mistaken, arnt the animations made to run at a certain speed? If thats the case then the video really doesnt prove anything between the two phones.
HTC should learn something from this.. The developers in XDA can do this so why cant the engineers at HTC??
They should hire their developers from XDA
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I.. do not fully understand. You show a video proving the animation speeds are the same? If im not mistaken, arnt the animations made to run at a certain speed? If thats the case then the video really doesnt prove anything between the two phones.
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In video it was pointed out that all setting on both phones are the same, so its all matter of harware how the phones perform.
ErnestoD said:
Thanks a lot man U have just confirmed what we all were suspecting. This device is more than capable for running ICS and HTC just want us to buy another cellphone
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We all know HTC i not being sincere by saying we wont have a nice experience on ICS... Its just some marketing decisions.. Stupid company..

[Q] hi, just few questions about the tf300

hi, i want to buy the asus tablet tf300! but i wana know some things about it, it would be so cool if the users of this tablet answer me
1- first of all, the build quality? nice? no cracking materials?
2- wifi is it strong enough? my room is far about 10m from our server! can i have good signal?
3- is there any notification lights when for exemple low battery? new mail?
4- battery? good enough?
5- for root and unlocking BL! is it risky? can instal custum roms even tht im on the last update( JB i think) or i have to root and unlock BL only when the tabel is runing on android 4 ?
6- the keyboard is it responsive? solid?
7- can it read any type of 32g memory card?
8- i already have a sony s tablet on Android 4 no rootable, is it worthy to change from sony S to asus Tf300? i like my sony; it has very good wifi strength; but i miss rooting hehe! and instaling Roms. and specialy the keyboard of the asus is really very good stuff!
9- thanks and sorrryyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
no one??!
1. In my opinion very good
2. cant tell, cause my wifi router is next to me
3. no
4. battery is very good with a custom kernel. Never used stock
5. root and custom Roms are alwys tricky, but as long as you never use rom manager or do a wipe in bootloader menu all will be good.
6 which keyboard you mean? the dock? I dont use it. Use swiftkey from the market and its very good
7. some are good, some not.
8. dont know the Sony, so cant say
9. you are welcome
mikaole said:
1. In my opinion very good
2. cant tell, cause my wifi router is next to me
3. no
4. battery is very good with a custom kernel. Never used stock
5. root and custom Roms are alwys tricky, but as long as you never use rom manager or do a wipe in bootloader menu all will be good.
6 which keyboard you mean? the dock? I dont use it. Use swiftkey from the market and its very good
7. some are good, some not.
8. dont know the Sony, so cant say
9. you are welcome
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thnks for yr reply, now its more clear than before about this tablet..... appreciate
I love my TF300T. Had stock Rom for less than 5 hours before i unlocked and flashed custom. Cant really complain on anything. But if I could time travel back, I would get the nexus.
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echohack said:
I love my TF300T. Had stock Rom for less than 5 hours before i unlocked and flashed custom. Cant really complain on anything. But if I could time travel back, I would get the nexus.
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why so the nexus? i think the pad is more better .....
mine picks up wifi great
alot better than my 7" Acer Iconia a100
i even pick up the neighbors house that live about a footballs field away
i bought two 32gb G.Skills micro SD class 10 cards from newegg
they work great, i have one in the tablet, and i have the other with the SD adapter in the keyboard docking station
battery seems pretty good, with the docking station its really good
and i removed the files that make the ota updates download automatically
i get a way better quadrant benchmark with stock ics than i did with stock jb
click "thanks" there on the bottom left, right below my post if i helped
thks for ur replies and +1 for u all ! thanks again!
tarekboukaf said:
hi, i want to buy the asus tablet tf300! but i wana know some things about it, it would be so cool if the users of this tablet answer me
1- first of all, the build quality? nice? no cracking materials?
2- wifi is it strong enough? my room is far about 10m from our server! can i have good signal?
3- is there any notification lights when for exemple low battery? new mail?
4- battery? good enough?
5- for root and unlocking BL! is it risky? can instal custum roms even tht im on the last update( JB i think) or i have to root and unlock BL only when the tabel is runing on android 4 ?
6- the keyboard is it responsive? solid?
7- can it read any type of 32g memory card?
8- i already have a sony s tablet on Android 4 no rootable, is it worthy to change from sony S to asus Tf300? i like my sony; it has very good wifi strength; but i miss rooting hehe! and instaling Roms. and specialy the keyboard of the asus is really very good stuff!
9- thanks and sorrryyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
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1) Build quality is okay, it doesn't flex too much but your Sony has an overall sturdier build.
2) WiFi is excellent. I use it throughout my house and outside, no problems.
3) There is a notification light on the tablet, and on the dock. They light up when charging and low battery, etc. I'm sure it can be made to flash for other reasons (email, etc.) also.
4) Battery is very good on most kernels, ~7-8 hours without dock and an extra couple of hours when the dock is connected.
5) I have rooted and unlocked mine fine. I got it with 4.0.4 preloaded, then I updated using the OTA from Asus to Jellybean 4.1.1. Then I unlocked and rooted, now running cm10.1
6) The keyboard is good, I use it at school for taking notes in class and is fine. However it is more compact than full-size laptop keyboards and you may have to get used to it.
7) I have an 8gb micro-sd, but the tablet supports up to 32gb.. and I think even 64gb with mods? I'm not sure about this.
8) The TF300T will definitely feel like a faster tablet and you will enjoy the custom roms :good: but the stock experience isn't the best. The Sony tablet has a tegra 2 processor, and the TF300 has a tegra 3.. a pretty nice upgrade!
Hope I helped :cyclops:
zaki0saad said:
1) Build quality is okay, it doesn't flex too much but your Sony has an overall sturdier build.
2) WiFi is excellent. I use it throughout my house and outside, no problems.
3) There is a notification light on the tablet, and on the dock. They light up when charging and low battery, etc. I'm sure it can be made to flash for other reasons (email, etc.) also.
4) Battery is very good on most kernels, ~7-8 hours without dock and an extra couple of hours when the dock is connected.
5) I have rooted and unlocked mine fine. I got it with 4.0.4 preloaded, then I updated using the OTA from Asus to Jellybean 4.1.1. Then I unlocked and rooted, now running cm10.1
6) The keyboard is good, I use it at school for taking notes in class and is fine. However it is more compact than full-size laptop keyboards and you may have to get used to it.
7) I have an 8gb micro-sd, but the tablet supports up to 32gb.. and I think even 64gb with mods? I'm not sure about this.
8) The TF300T will definitely feel like a faster tablet and you will enjoy the custom roms :good: but the stock experience isn't the best. The Sony tablet has a tegra 2 processor, and the TF300 has a tegra 3.. a pretty nice upgrade!
Hope I helped :cyclops:
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hi, thanks for all ur answers, very kind from u ! and about the quality build, u mean sony is better!. i have some rare few craking parts on my sony, but rarly they happend,!
thks again +1
tarekboukaf said:
hi, thanks for all ur answers, very kind from u ! jsut can u tell me where is the notifications light situated? ! and about the quality build, u mean sony is better!. i have some rare few craking parts on my sony, but rarly they happend,!
thks again +1
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It's not a notification light, it's just a charging indicator (orange when charging, green when done). You'll find it on the power button, so even if it can be used to notify of new events, it will be hard to see.
vap_66 said:
It's not a notification light, it's just a charging indicator (orange when charging, green when done). You'll find it on the power button, so even if it can be used to notify of new events, it will be hard to see.
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yes, ur right, still there is a thing thats lights in my dark room even its tinny! lol thks a lottttttttt
zaki0saad said:
1) Build quality is okay, it doesn't flex too much but your Sony has an overall sturdier build.
2) WiFi is excellent. I use it throughout my house and outside, no problems.
3) There is a notification light on the tablet, and on the dock. They light up when charging and low battery, etc. I'm sure it can be made to flash for other reasons (email, etc.) also.
4) Battery is very good on most kernels, ~7-8 hours without dock and an extra couple of hours when the dock is connected.
5) I have rooted and unlocked mine fine. I got it with 4.0.4 preloaded, then I updated using the OTA from Asus to Jellybean 4.1.1. Then I unlocked and rooted, now running cm10.1
6) The keyboard is good, I use it at school for taking notes in class and is fine. However it is more compact than full-size laptop keyboards and you may have to get used to it.
7) I have an 8gb micro-sd, but the tablet supports up to 32gb.. and I think even 64gb with mods? I'm not sure about this.
8) The TF300T will definitely feel like a faster tablet and you will enjoy the custom roms :good: but the stock experience isn't the best. The Sony tablet has a tegra 2 processor, and the TF300 has a tegra 3.. a pretty nice upgrade!
Hope I helped :cyclops:
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hi again, waht you can say about cracking stuff with this tablet? i heard a lot of problems about it? thkssssssss
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tarekboukaf said:
hi again, waht you can say about cracking stuff with this tablet? i heard a lot of problems about it? thkssssssss
youtube to mp3
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I haven't had any cracking issues and I've had it for a few months now, in a case of course. I don't tend to bend, twist or death grip my electronics either though
monsterduc1000 said:
I haven't had any cracking issues and I've had it for a few months now, in a case of course. I don't tend to bend, twist or death grip my electronics either though
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thks for replying, ok, u know wht! im hesitated between galaxy tab2 10.1 and this one! is the mono speaker cool to use ? i use generaly headphones, but just wana know! hehethanksssssssss

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