See here for overview of conference.
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In regards to Android updates...
-"New guidelines! Man, this is going to be huge. Google's laying out a timeline for how long it'll take a device to get updated once a new build is let loose, as well as how long it'll be updated beyond that."
-"These shown will be provided timely updates for at least 18 months provided the hardware can handle it. Whoa. WHOA!" -Samsung included here
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-"The keynote's moving on, but our head is still spinning here. And we're sure the heads of Epic 4G owners are as well." Engadget targeting us.
Linky.
So it looks like Google is taking care of fragmentation. Also they announched Ice Cream Sammmmicch and their goals for unity. In addition, Google Music. Quick get your invites at http://music.google.com
Also, looks like Google has prepared a sweet Arduino dev kit for USB + bluetooth (in the future) for Android devices. Definitely a ton of potential.
Also, they announced [email protected] automation for Android tablets/phones.
And yes... I capitalized NEWS versus Huge, just to be different.
Good for Google for taking the proper steps to mend the biggest problem with their platform.
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12:35PM The keynote's moving on, but our head is still spinning here. And we're sure the heads of Epic 4G owners are as well.
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Heh.
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This is interesting
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Free Galaxy Tab 10.1 for attendees! I'm jealous!
Good stuff. So I guess the "Samsung will never update past Froyo" crap can be put to an end for good. Sprint/Samsung both on board (maybe forced by Google, I don't care how) to support updates 18 months into the life of the devices (if they can handle it) which they SHOULD when they took away the yearly upgrades from most folks.
Also, the movie rental thing Google is releasing looks NICE. So much for Samsung's media hub. Google isn't charging an arm an a leg for rentals either.
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Good stuff. So I guess the "Samsung will never update past Froyo" crap can be put to an end for good.
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It was put to bed for good with ED12.
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Free Galaxy Tab 10.1 for attendees! I'm jealous!
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That's 5,000 Galaxy Tabs. Damn. They know how to put on a show.
Everybody should watch it, a lot of cool stuff. Remember, this is only the first day of I/O.
Also, Engadget's front page is full of I/O stuff right now if you don't have time to watch the video but still want some more info.
Oh, and I thanked you k0nane to make it so you have 1001 thanks. Sorry.
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It was put to bed for good with ED12.
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True. Guess it puts to bed that they never will update past Gingerbread
I have little doubt now my phone will at the very least have Ice Cream before my upgrade time rolls around.
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You need an "s" in your link:
http://www.youtube.com/user/GoogleDevelopers
Fixed it in the quote.
Xerloq said:
You need an "s" in your link:
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Fixed it in the quote.
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Fixed in op. Thanks.
CapsLockKey said:
True. Guess it puts to bed that they never will update past Gingerbread
I have little doubt now my phone will at the very least have Ice Cream before my upgrade time rolls around.
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With the close Sprint/Goog collaboration on Voice I bet Sprint is going to start coming fast and furious with updates.
I cant wait till 2.4 comes out!!!
I cant wait till 2.4 comes out!!!
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I just can't wait for official gingerbread lol
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By the way, where was Kyocera on that list of partners? I pity anyone who gets suckered into buying that dual screen disaster.
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With the close Sprint/Goog collaboration on Voice I bet Sprint is going to start coming fast and furious with updates.
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unless they pull an HTC Hero/Samsung moment on us >.>
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unless they pull an HTC Hero/Samsung moment on us >.>
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I would think that about a year ago, but the AT&T+T-Mob and Verizon+iPhone make Sprint the natural choice for stronger Google ties, as it needs the "best" hardware and software to compete on a level with the two giants. This process has already started with Voice integration and releasing a Sprint Nexus
The closer Google holds Sprint, the better it is for us and the better/faster the updates come to the Goog Network.
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I would think that about a year ago, but the AT&T+T-Mob and Verizon+iPhone make Sprint the natural choice for stronger Google ties, as it needs the "best" hardware and software to compete on a level with the two giants. This process has already started with Voice integration and releasing a Sprint Nexus
The closer Google holds Sprint, the better it is for us and the better/faster the updates come to the Goog Network.
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At the same time, that puts Sprint as the only major carrier without an iphone...and I hope they dont go deeper into trying to compete with it by putting all their resources into 1 phone basket... like they did with the Instinct, Pre, Evo...
Now if the carriers and manufactures can come to a agreement on how to properly handle dud phones. I by no means hope there is another debacle like the Samsung Moment was but it is a shame what some had to go through to get rid of that lemon and stupider Sprint kept selling it even though its issues were documented to the umteenth degree.
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I don't want to burst any bubbles, but everything I have read about the 18 month update thing pertains to "new" devices. Not saying they won't apply the same standard to our phones and other phones, but the announcement was from here on that new devices would stay updates for at least 18 months.
Related
http://engadget.com/2010/10/21/samsung-comes-clean-with-galaxy-s-froyo-upgrade-dates-all-carri/
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Then how long until sprint releases it? That's what I would like to know. Lol
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As ususal, Engadget gets it wrong. They can't even read a press release, and never bothered to pick up the phone and call Samsung. This announcement was datelined from London and about the UK, which is clear from its context.
See also this thread in Vibrant forum.
p.s. As recently as a few minutes ago, Samsung's Galaxy S support site for the U.S. on Twitter was saying there is not ETA for Froyo on this side of the pond at all.
Deployment for the Epic is even more complicated than the rollout for the GSM-based variants in the U.S. If the Epic gets Froyo in November, I will be most pleasantly surprised.
one way or another it seems like typical samsung taking forever to release an update
I just got word from my sprint connect to not expect froyo until mid-late december... he said it may be well into january before sprint pushes it out. let's hope he's wrong!
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I just got word from my sprint connect to not expect froyo until mid-late december... he said it may be well into january before sprint pushes it out. let's hope he's wrong!
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Typical sprint. Its like a perfect storm of two companies that look at support only as an expense, not as retaining future customers.
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I just got word from my sprint connect to not expect froyo until mid-late december... he said it may be well into january before sprint pushes it out. let's hope he's wrong!
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The Samsung Twitter sites for the United States, debunking the the speculation based on the U.K. news, reiterate what Samsung has said all along: Froyo will be deployed by U.S. carriers sometime this year:
RT @SamsungMobileUS Re: Froyo release in November statement came from SamsungUK. Froyo for US SGS will be avail this year http://ow.ly/2Xce8
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Anyone who expected something sooner has been misinformed, or just thinking wishfully. Many examples of both errors have populated comments in the various forums for weeks or months.
I hope they put the Sprint ID or whatever it is on it so I can do away with TW all together. Looked at the Samsung Transform review and was jealous that there was no TW.
I was hoping the delay was due to Sprint ID
In other words.....maybe on the next phone.
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I just got word from my sprint connect to not expect froyo until mid-late december... he said it may be well into january before sprint pushes it out. let's hope he's wrong!
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I'm inclined to believe this since Rogers in Canada is saying their version of the Captivate will get Froyo in 2011. If Froyo was ready in 2010, everywhere else in the world, why would Rogers tell their customers to expect it in 2011?
Samsung is a joke when it comes to software updates...almost on par with htc gimping allof there products
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Like I said in previous threads, sprint will recieve it last, because of 4g kernel modifications.
Honestly id rather them skip froyo and work on gingerbread.
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Honestly id rather them skip froyo and work on gingerbread.
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What? You want to wait until 2012 to get a new OS update?
What does 2.2 offer that you can't have on 2.1? I just don't see what the big deal is anyways. Is everyone that unsatisfied with their phone that they are getting bent out of shape about 2.2? This is Sprint and Samsung we are talking about right? I fully expect it to be here in January or February. In the mean time, I will enjoy my Epic with 2.1 Which is still better than the Evo on 2.2, imho.
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What does 2.2 offer that you can't have on 2.1? I just don't see what the big deal is anyways. Is everyone that unsatisfied with their phone that they are getting bent out of shape about 2.2? This is Sprint and Samsung we are talking about right? I fully expect it to be here in January or February. In the mean time, I will enjoy my Epic with 2.1 Which is still better than the Evo on 2.2, imho.
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Its faster, and "the latest and greatest" has support for full flash, not just flash lite...theres a few others.
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Its faster, and "the latest and greatest" has support for full flash, not just flash lite...theres a few others.
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I heard flash sucked with 2.2 but that's just me. Granted it's nice to have and it's something the I-suck doesn't have so that's always a plus.
Phone is plenty fast for me but I don't do anything extensive on it. Even when it drops I'll probably still wait a while to see if it's even worth it. Reading the Evo forums, it sounded like it was more trouble than it was worth and broke more things than fixed.
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I heard flash sucked with 2.2 but that's just me. Granted it's nice to have and it's something the I-suck doesn't have so that's always a plus.
Phone is plenty fast for me but I don't do anything extensive on it. Even when it drops I'll probably still wait a while to see if it's even worth it. Reading the Evo forums, it sounded like it was more trouble than it was worth and broke more things than fixed.
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THANK YOU!
rquinn19 said:
I hope they put the Sprint ID or whatever it is on it so I can do away with TW all together. Looked at the Samsung Transform review and was jealous that there was no TW.
I was hoping the delay was due to Sprint ID
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You want to exchange one piece of bloat for another piece?
Why not just ship it with stock Android (and more than 3 screens) and then allow us to customize our devices as we see fit?
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I heard flash sucked with 2.2 but that's just me. Granted it's nice to have and it's something the I-suck doesn't have so that's always a plus.
Phone is plenty fast for me but I don't do anything extensive on it. Even when it drops I'll probably still wait a while to see if it's even worth it. Reading the Evo forums, it sounded like it was more trouble than it was worth and broke more things than fixed.
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Thats because its on a Evo lol
Yeah I went to the Sprint store when I went and bought my case for my Epic and messed around with an Evo..be it a display, and they had a screen protector on it, the screened looked REALLY grainy, and it was very very slow. I'm guessing it hadn't been restarted in awhile and had every app open on it running in the background. I checked it and sure enough it was running on 2.2.
http://www.gizmocrunch.com/android/4229-android-gingerbread-samsung-epic-captivate-fascinate-vibrant
If this is true, and followed through it will restore my faith in Samsung.
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Just a rumor.... but makes sense.
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On second thought. Why would samsung OTA us to 2.3, by doing so that would make the Nexus S just another Vibrant over at T-Mobile.
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On second thought. Why would samsung OTA us to 2.3, by doing so that would make the Nexus S just another Vibrant over at T-Mobile.
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My understanding is that the Nexus S (like the Nexus One) is a stripped down, super-phone, demonstration of new technology and in this case the most notable difference would be the form factor and the NFC. I think Sammy would face more backlash from consumers for ignoring hardware customers already paid for so as to make a new product with near-identical hardware better.
I would assume to have a 2.3 powerhouse phone on all major carriers for bragging and sales purposes. Would make a ton of sense.
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I would assume to have a 2.3 powerhouse phone on all major carriers for bragging and sales purposes. Would make a ton of sense.
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That *would* make sense. Also, it would rock.
Is the person who posted that credible?
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Is the person who posted that credible?
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From the article:
While only a rumor, he's usually spot on and the tweet does seem very plausible so we wouldn't be surprised if Samsung Galaxy S phones (Captivate, Fascinate, Epic 4G and Vibrant) will beat HTC and Motorola devices to Android 2.3.
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Personally, I'd never heard of him but I've requested to follow him on twitter. In the end we'll just have to wait and see but it would be nice. If this update were coming soon I think there would be some RCs floating around but seeing as we have Froyo ones and a 'near-official' OTA update that went to .4 phones its hard to know if we'll skip 2.2 and go right to 2.3. I want this to happen but the evidence I have right now would seem to go against this.
I honestly though don't care about gingerbread all that much. I'm planning to have this phone for awhile. It does everything I need with ease. Big difference from when I had the Moment and from day 1 felt the need to smash it into a wall because of how slow and laggy it was. I would hope samsung realizes this isn't a phone to cut ties with because it defintely has staying power even after it's superceded by something faster on paper but probably only marginably faster in real world use.
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So if you're wondering why Samsung hasn't bothered upgrading most of its smartphons to Android 2.2 Froyo yet then this could be the reason. Let's see if Samsung leapfrogs to Android Gingerbread before the holidays or not.
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if we skip straight to 2.3 I will start rescuing kittens!!!!
With how good samsung did with sales from all the galaxy s phones, i wouldnt be surprised that they would do this.. that would be so sweet to have gingerbread on epic and since its on the nexus s with samehardware screen and stats, makes sense they could upgrade all variants epic will definitly be the top of the line if it got gingerbread, but also i agree with the poster above about caring less as long as i have a good running phone with 2.2 ill be set til the dual core processors come out and another top of the line phone comes out for sprint next year or 2 years,
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From the article:
Personally, I'd never heard of him but I've requested to follow him on twitter. In the end we'll just have to wait and see but it would be nice. If this update were coming soon I think there would be some RCs floating around but seeing as we have Froyo ones and a 'near-official' OTA update that went to .4 phones its hard to know if we'll skip 2.2 and go right to 2.3. I want this to happen but the evidence I have right now would seem to go against this.
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I agree, its better to wait and see. I would rather not get myself excited only t be disappointed in the end. The best i could see out of this is samsung releasing gingerbread much earlier then any of us would expect. I don't know...lets just see.
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From the article:
Personally, I'd never heard of him but I've requested to follow him on twitter. In the end we'll just have to wait and see but it would be nice. If this update were coming soon I think there would be some RCs floating around but seeing as we have Froyo ones and a 'near-official' OTA update that went to .4 phones its hard to know if we'll skip 2.2 and go right to 2.3. I want this to happen but the evidence I have right now would seem to go against this.
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I would have to agree with you. It would be nice, and it would increase following among sammy, but will it be released soon? At this point, possibly but not probably.
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I agree, its better to wait and see. I would rather not get myself excited only t be disappointed in the end. The best i could see out of this is samsung releasing gingerbread much earlier then any of us would expect. I don't know...lets just see.
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Indeed. I spent months reading about how my Mytouch was getting Eclair only to be let down every time. I will say that if they do leapfrog 2.2 and get my device up-to-android-date then when I buy my fiancee's new phone in about a month she'll be getting a Sammy device. Otherwise, I'm not going to get her a phone that's always out-of-date.
Now if we dont receive an update b4 january first for anything this might prove that we will have gingerbread later and prove that they skipped froyo.
I mean if they dont give us froyo b4 the end of the year like they promised, they could be working on gingerbread we shall see by the end of this month.
The only thing I am not looking forward to is the possible return of these forums turning into unreadable garbage of people trolling, fighting and starting multiple threads about when or why Gingerbread is/isn't on the epic.
This thread has been nice though.
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The only thing I am not looking forward to is the possible return of these forums turning into unreadable garbage of people trolling, fighting and starting multiple threads about when or why Gingerbread is/isn't on the epic.
This thread has been nice though.
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i completly agree with you hopefully it doesnt get posted all over the place including the develpment thread, this was a nice find and read tho thanks OP!
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Now if we dont receive an update b4 january first for anything this might prove that we will have gingerbread later and prove that they skipped froyo.
I mean if they dont give us froyo b4 the end of the year like they promised, they could be working on gingerbread we shall see by the end of this month.
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What you are saying makes a lot of sense. Good post.
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this was a nice find and read tho thanks OP!
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;-) np .... Hopefully we could keep most gingerbread talk here. After all, anything we hear to this point are only to be considered rumors.
assuming this is true
http://phandroid.com/2010/12/08/samsung-on-galaxy-s-gingerbread-possibility-maybe-but-maybe-not/
There standpoint on Gingerbread for their flagship phone, basically a big F U to their customers
“Such a review will be based on various factors including, without limitation, the overall effect of such Update to Samsung products, the system requirements, the structural limitations, and the level of cooperation from the component suppliers and the software licensors”.
“If Samsung decides to make the Update available to the users after such consideration, Samsung will use its efforts to develop such Update, which may be released to the users upon successful completion of such development”.
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are you kidding me..its the same damn device (EDIT: as in the other galaxy s phones)
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assuming this is true
http://phandroid.com/2010/12/08/samsung-on-galaxy-s-gingerbread-possibility-maybe-but-maybe-not/
There standpoint on Gingerbread for their flagship phone, basically a big F U to their customers
are you kidding me..its the same damn devices
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While I am not siding with them - they really aren't the same devices. If they were we could easily port vibrant and captivate roms. There is clearly work that has to go into each variant of the SGS line. It would probably make the LEAST amount of sense for the Epic to not get 2.3 officially. Primarily because of its 4g Radio and Front Cam - features that the others lack- even though our device is probably the most complicated to get working right.
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While I am not siding with them - they really aren't the same devices. If they were we could easily port vibrant and captivate roms. There is clearly work that has to go into each variant of the SGS line. It would probably make the LEAST amount of sense for the Epic to not get 2.3 officially. Primarily because of its 4g Radio and Front Cam - features that the others lack- even though our device is probably the most complicated to get working right.
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Dont forget landscape mode for the keyboard, led light too....
Well oh well eventually we will get gingerbread on our devices and if not im sure ill have a new phone next year anyway so froyo will hold me over til then...
In my opinion this is a conflicting report with what that one leak tweeter/w/e he was said. Samsung didn't say no, they basically said "Um, well, uh maybe?" so it has, at least in mind, just as little credibility as some guy saying we were getting it. Just have to wait and see.
This will help....
http://www.androidcentral.com/will-my-phone-get-gingerbread
this is conflicting
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This will help....
http://www.androidcentral.com/will-my-phone-get-gingerbread
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Here we go with the rumors just like the date of the release of the epic....
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Here we go with the rumors just like the date of the release of the epic....
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i agree it all is still rumor, but it doesnt hurt to have some hope...
merry christmas
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i agree it all is still rumor, but it doesnt hurt to have some hope...
merry christmas
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Having hope means you can either be:
Hope for X
1) Let down horribly - No X
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2) Content - X
Having no hope means you can be:
1) Pleasantly surprised - X
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2) Content - No X
Hope is stupid. Its math.
http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kern...ng.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/2.6.35-samsung
samsung already created a gingerbread kernel 2.6.35...
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Having hope means you can either be:
Hope for X
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wow.... thats optimism for you...
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samsung already created a gingerbread kernel 2.6.35...
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Likely for the nexus s?
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While I am not siding with them - they really aren't the same devices. If they were we could easily port vibrant and captivate roms. There is clearly work that has to go into each variant of the SGS line. It would probably make the LEAST amount of sense for the Epic to not get 2.3 officially. Primarily because of its 4g Radio and Front Cam - features that the others lack- even though our device is probably the most complicated to get working right.
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But its not only our device. Theyre talking about their whole galaxy s line. Samsung says we will think about it, while htc says we're working on it.
I love my phone but damn you samsung. If only htc had super amoled screens, and put decent camera sensors in their phones..I'm really considering that HTC Knight
This may very well be the last straw that makes me sell my Epic. While I realize that Samsung doesn't owe me anything, until people quit buying their phones, they'll keep jerking us around. HTC, here I come.
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This may very well be the last straw that makes me sell my Epic. While I realize that Samsung doesn't owe me anything, until people quit buying their phones, they'll keep jerking us around. HTC, here I come.
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LOL. I thought it would at least be a few days after Froyo's release before we got these posts about Gingerbread.
live2ride96 said:
This may very well be the last straw that makes me sell my Epic. While I realize that Samsung doesn't owe me anything, until people quit buying their phones, they'll keep jerking us around. HTC, here I come.
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lol trading my epic for an evo this weekend!
I have 2 people wanting to trade their Evo for my epic. Samsung doesn't support their products as well as HTC, and it sucks. For some reason, I think they would rather put out new phones with Gingerbread and make you buy the, than give you an upgrade.
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For some reason, I think they would rather put out new phones with Gingerbread and make you buy the, than give you an upgrade.
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Uh, Let me take a wild guess. Could it be . . . . . . for PROFIT??
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This will help....
http://www.androidcentral.com/will-my-phone-get-gingerbread
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I like the confidence of this link
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ill never buy samsung again
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Yes, yes, for profit. We all get that they're in the business of selling phones, not giving free updates. That's why I read an interesting blog about paying for OS updates a little while back. I'd gladly pay a few bucks to get honeycomb or ice cream on a 6 month to year old phone and to have them out in a timely fashion. Then Samsung and all the other manufacturers would have an incentive to actually put out updates for phones as well.
Will the mytouch 4g (mt4g) be getting Ice Cream Sandwich (2.4/4.0)?
What do you think?
highly doubt it
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highly doubt it
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Who knows....http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1072717
ICS is supposed to be a type of "universal" update that brings all devices under one platform to unify android instead of being fragmented the way it is. I was doubtful that the sgs4g would get it but after reading up on it it does appear hopeful that devices like ours will get the update as well.
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Who knows....http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1072717
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wow, this is good news!
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Will the mytouch 4g (mt4g) be getting Ice Cream Sandwich (2.4)?
What do you think?
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It's not 2.4 it is 4.0.
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It's not 2.4 it is 4.0.
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Where did you see that at? Most of the stuff I saw an read on : Android police an central along with phandroid, suspect 2.4 . I'm just curious on where you found it.
From my fist to your face, enjoy.
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It's not 2.4 it is 4.0.
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Well... at the moment... no one knows if it is 2.4 or 4.0.
So thanks for pointing that out. I cant fix the poll title so bare with me.
Officially? I'm almost certain that's a no. Took them 6 months to give us GB and this phone is about to hit it's end of life cycle.
But unofficially, most certainly. Kmobs and Zinx have this phone, the two prominent devs in the CM team. So I'm highly confident that through them, we'll be amongst the first batch of phones to get ICS via CM8.
Just my thought.
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I agree we will get it via cm8 not officially though
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Tmobile, from what I remember is part of the Android alliance. They promise upgrades, when a new Android OS comes out, it'll only end when the phone is 18 months old. I doing we'll see it right away, but i'm pretty sure we will officially see it at some point.
From my fist to your face, enjoy.
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Tmobile, from what I remember is part of the Android alliance. They promise upgrades, when a new Android OS comes out, it'll only end when the phone is 18 months old. I doing we'll see it right away, but i'm pretty sure we will officially see it at some point.
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Not sure about that because to me, T-Mobile has the worst track record of phones getting updates.
The myTouch Slide 3G was promised Froyo last summer but didn't get it till earlier this year. And you can pretty much throw GB out of the equation for that phone.
The Vibrant has yet to even have a GB leak while the Vibrant 4G gets GB leaks every month or so. Which is sad.
The G2 was supposed to get GB very early but are now just getting it. And its life cycle already ended a month or two ago so that getting ICS is doubtful.
And that's just to name a few.
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Not sure about that because to me, T-Mobile has the worst track record of phones getting updates.
The myTouch Slide 3G was promised Froyo last summer but didn't get it till earlier this year. And you can pretty much throw GB out of the equation for that phone.
The Vibrant has yet to even have a GB leak while the Vibrant 4G gets GB leaks every month or so. Which is sad.
The G2 was supposed to get GB very early but are now just getting it. And its life cycle already ended a month or two ago so that getting ICS is doubtful.
And that's just to name a few.
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I'm not gonna lie, but you are correct about all of that. I'm willing to give them another shot, them ima go to sprint. I do like t-mo,I had a good plan with them, they made me change plans, when I added a new line, also I just got throttled. If they can update this phone to ICS, I'll stay if not, i'm gone.
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I'm not gonna lie, but you are correct about all of that. I'm willing to give them another shot, them ima go to sprint. I do like t-mo,I had a good plan with them, they made me change plans, when I added a new line, also I just got throttled. If they can update this phone to ICS, I'll stay if not, i'm gone.
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I hear ya, I love TMO as well and I would love to be wrong to be honest. But looking back at how the Evo, and even the freakin year and a half old Droid INC got GB it made me think how terrible TMO is compared to the other carriers.
I would probably switch to Sprint as well if anything, I just wish their 3G was good.
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I hear ya, I love TMO as well and I would love to be wrong to be honest. But looking back at how the Evo, and even the freakin year and a half old Droid INC got GB it made me think how terrible TMO is compared to the other carriers.
I would probably switch to Sprint as well if anything, I just wish their 3G was good.
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You would think the company that first introduced Android to the world, would set an example for everyone else on how to update your Android's in a timely manner. Instead they are usually the last ones to do so or they'll release a new version of the phone that is updated, an scrap the older ones. The only reason why i'm still with then is,i have good connection at home an in my area, an I don't want to spend the extra money for a etf.
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You would think the company that first introduced Android to the world, would set an example for everyone else on how to update your Android's in a timely manner. Instead they are usually the last ones to do so
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From what I was told (by a German TMO sales rep), they have a fairly long internal QA process to make sure that a new ROM works (together with any of their own additions). So it usually takes them more than six months after a new ROM has been released, before it is officially available from them. This is not only true for Android, but is also valid for Blackberry and WP7.
FWIW... We switched to sprint. Hated sprint cdma. And t mobile is hardly the worst track record, all the carriers have been about the same. I think verizon and the droid line up is your"worst"...
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From what I was told (by a German TMO sales rep), they have a fairly long internal QA process to make sure that a new ROM works (together with any of their own additions). So it usually takes them more than six months after a new ROM has been released, before it is officially available from them. This is not only true for Android, but is also valid for Blackberry and WP7.
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I can understand a 6month time frame to get everything working. I had the mytouch 3g slide, an that took a year an a month(not sure, maybe 2) to get upgraded to 2.2, they didn't even do an ota. It was either do it yourself via HTC or go to a store an get it done. I think that's pretty bad though, it took them that long.
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Yeah... I don't see why they need at least 6 months. I mean it took CM's team like a little over a month after GB's source was released to get it to multiple different phones. Plus CM implemented their CM Settings as well.
I'm not saying it's a wrong statement, just wondering how a group of mostly college kids can beat big companies to it.
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mackster248 said:
Yeah... I don't see why they need at least 6 months. I mean it took CM's team like a little over a month after GB's source was released to get it to multiple different phones. Plus CM implemented their CM Settings as well.
I'm not saying it's a wrong statement, just wondering how a group of mostly college kids can beat big companies to it.
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Big companies = a lot of political bull****. They do what they can to make more money for themselves about 50% of the time.
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http://www.engadget.com/2012/03/15/confirmed-ics-coming-to-the-nexus-s-in-the-next-few-weeks/
OTA for all countries or 4.0.5???
Hopefully it's more stable than 4.0.3 was.
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climhz said:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/03/15/confirmed-ics-coming-to-the-nexus-s-in-the-next-few-weeks/
OTA for all countries or 4.0.5???
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What do you mean what is it? It will be ICS finally rolling out after all these months to all the variants. And yes, it will be a bug fix release to the T-mobile version that partially rolled out too.
Can wait for a DEV out there to get it hands dirty with it!!!
Some reliable sources say this time its the real deal.
obsanity said:
Some reliable sources say this time its the real deal.
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That's what they always say. Not impressed.
Engadget shoulda have more specific details, e.g., the version. I have been rocking ICS since the stock ICS OTA rolled out to T-Mobile, and now AOKP.
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063_XOBX said:
That's what they always say. Not impressed.
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Engadget wouldn't post that information unless it was from a source inside of Google. Unlike some of these crack pot bloggers, they actually have real sources.
bozzykid said:
Engadget wouldn't post that information unless it was from a source inside of Google. Unlike some of these crack pot bloggers, they actually have real sources.
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They used to....
obsanity said:
They used to....
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If it was from an external source, they would tell you their sources. Since they didn't, then you can be almost 100% positive it was from someone inside of Google.
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They used to....
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Myriam Joire is the real deal man. She has great sources, and I've yet to ever hear her say anything that hasn't been reliable, credible, and ultimately proven true.
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Even I can estimate like this lol.
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uansari1 said:
Myriam Joire is the real deal man. She has great sources, and I've yet to ever hear her say anything that hasn't been reliable, credible, and ultimately proven true.
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Myriam is a guy.
karnoff said:
Myriam is a guy.
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Uhh, no, Myriam is a woman according to her Engadget bio page. Yes, she may look like a man (all joking aside), but she is not.
I wish, it would have better battery life
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The reason there is such a delay this time around has to deal with the fact google has removed the support from cdma devices officially. This means in order to supply updates, we have to wait for sprint. Currently Sprint is bitter about the who deal. We are the ones who will suffer in the long run.
Same for why the gnex for sprint isn't out quite yet.
lithid-cm said:
The reason there is such a delay this time around has to deal with the fact google has removed the support from cdma devices officially. This means in order to supply updates, we have to wait for sprint. Currently Sprint is bitter about the who deal. We are the ones who will suffer in the long run.
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The release was pulled from T-mobile and never existed for AT&T. So unless you are saying those are CDMA carriers as well, your theory makes no sense. All 3 device types currently are waiting for an ICS update. Google is surely working to make that happen. But Sprint isn't holding up the release (at least not yet) because it doesn't even exist. And Google removing CDMA from ASOP has no bearing on the speed at which they provide the update. The process is the same. The problem is the lack of understanding of why CDMA was pulled from ASOP and the sensationalist articles spewing incorrect information has probably confused you.
Tired of waiting..
I think Google takes too long to release an OTA!
bozzykid said:
The release was pulled from T-mobile and never existed for AT&T. So unless you are saying those are CDMA carriers as well, your theory makes no sense. All 3 device types currently are waiting for an ICS update. Google is surely working to make that happen. But Sprint isn't holding up the release (at least not yet) because it doesn't even exist. And Google removing CDMA from ASOP has no bearing on the speed at which they provide the update. The process is the same. The problem is the lack of understanding of why CDMA was pulled from ASOP and the sensationalist articles spewing incorrect information has probably confused you.
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I guess you work with stuff on a daily basis? This is a google phone, if you don't think GSM variants are not affected by google move to drop cdma support your mistaken. There is alot more that goes on behind the scenes the push code > compile > update. Countless documents, this need to get removed, shuffled and put back into order once again. Instead of google being about to push updates with the help of carriers, google and the nexus s is now fragmented. To ensure a proper release cycle it will take longer then expected. Pulling a phone from official support isn't like dropping your kids off at school.
lithid-cm said:
I guess you work with stuff on a daily basis? This is a google phone, if you don't think GSM variants are not affected by google move to drop cdma support your mistaken. There is alot more that goes on behind the scenes the push code > compile > update. Countless documents, this need to get removed, shuffled and put back into order once again. Instead of google being about to push updates with the help of carriers, google and the nexus s is now fragmented. To ensure a proper release cycle it will take longer then expected. Pulling a phone from official support isn't like dropping your kids off at school.
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Actually, Google didn't drop support for the CMDA variants except in ASOP. So there is no change in the way they rolled out updates. So you are saying they pulled the buggy release because they anticipated dropping CDMA months later? I guess the AT&T version didn't get the release in December because they were dropping CDMA support several months later? I feel like you are drawing conclusions that aren't even there.