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Will we Legend get Android 2.2 (Froyo) update?
Here are the platform highlights. very good improvements
http://developer.android.com/sdk/android-2.2-highlights.html
Latest news from HTC (thanks to Iryia ) :
Iryia said:
Hi guys,
I just received a reply from HTC..
"Good Morning Thank you for contacting HTC At the moment we dont have official date of the relase for the new update but it is suitable for your device and soon or later it will be relased for Legend Regards Piotr HTC "
At least some good news..
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Yes, we will, its just a question of when!
HTC will have to apply their 'modifications' to it, i.e. Sense.
Then if yours is network branded, you have to wait until your network make it available to you, after they've made their changes!
Unless of course you've rooted, which case you should be able to apply a fresh ROM whenever it is made available.
I believe the above is correct, am sure someone will correct me if needed.
What I'm wondering is will FROYO make a different to the speed of the Legend? There are many reports online about how FROYO will make the Nexus One and Desire up to 300% faster due to the JIT Compiler (and other stuff?) ...but is this potential speed benefit applicable to the Legend?
I really really hope so...
c_man said:
Yes, we will, its just a question of when!
HTC will have to apply their 'modifications' to it, i.e. Sense.
Then if yours is network branded, you have to wait until your network make it available to you, after they've made their changes!
Unless of course you've rooted, which case you should be able to apply a fresh ROM whenever it is made available.
I believe the above is correct, am sure someone will correct me if needed.
What I'm wondering is will FROYO make a different to the speed of the Legend? There are many reports online about how FROYO will make the Nexus One and Desire up to 300% faster due to the JIT Compiler (and other stuff?) ...but is this potential speed benefit applicable to the Legend?
I really really hope so...
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HTC LEGEND is not getting 2.2 Update in 2010.
Source -->>URL product-reviews.net/2010/05/21/android-2-2-froyo-no-update-to-htc-hero-legend-and-droid-eris-phones
Following on from our previous article, which informed you about HTC’s plans to update their smartphones to the latest version of Android OS (2.2 Froyo), it seems that HTC deliberately left a few handset names off their initial upgrade list.
HTC issued a fresh statement, in which they detailed a few handsets that will be receiving the update to Android 2.2 first. These included the HTC Incredible, MyTouch 3G, HTC Desire and the HTC EVO 4G smartphone.
Does this mean that handsets such as the HTC Hero, Legend and Droid Eris will not be getting the update to 2.2 Froyo? We can understand the Hero and Droid Eris not being included on the list, since they were released a while ago now, but what about the HTC Legend?
The Legend was available after the HTC Desire, so it seems slightly odd that the statement from HTC didn’t include the handset on the list. Maybe it was just a bad choice of wording. Hopefully HTC will clear this up for us soon – we’ll update you when we can.
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HTC Legend probably get Android 2.2 (FROYO) update because is launched this year,see here:
http://www.androidcentral.com/most-2010-htc-android-phones-will-get-froyo-2010
I really hope it does get updated, the whole reason I upgraded to legend and not desire was A. the industrial design of the phone, and B. sick of waiting around for 2.1 GSM hero update so gave the hero to GF.
Even after this statement im seeing a pattern here with HTC not clearly being able to state weather or not brand new phones will receive an update, or hell even when (2nd half of 2010 can mean December). If it does turn out our Legends dont get 2.2 I'm gonna stick with vanilla android experience on an unlocked N1, or hopefully N2.
I dont think that HTC will update Legend to 2.2.
Considering its RAM and processor Legend is behind from N1 and Desire or incredible.
Even i have Legend and its utterly dissapointing from the side of HTC to ignore such a high profile handset from new update.I ll never buy any handset from HTC now onwards.
F*** u HTC......
Froyo for Legend
I bought the legend some time ago. It would be a major dissappointment if HTC doesn`t create an update for it...let`s be realistic the amount of work they have to do once they change stuff to work on the Desire should be fairly minimal. Also I don`t think that the HW of Legend is not good enough to run Froyo (from what I`ve heart all devices should see a performance boost and the ROM itself should be smaller). Anyway we`ll see how it goes ). Worst case is that everybody will root their legends and flash it over and over again with unstable roms until it becomes an aluminium brick going back to HTC for replacement )
tbh if the mytouch slide is getting update i see no reason why they shouldn't update the legend either
the my touch has :
320x480 screen
600mhz cpu (same as legend i believe)
387mb ram
512mb rom
so spec wise its very similar to legend so its got nothing to do with the lack of snapdragon or screen res.
and tbh all devices even 1st gen should get an update for 1 very big reason JIT!
it will make everything faster.
really there is no reason not to update the legend
if all of us email them they might give an update let the legend 2.2 outcry begin!
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tbh if the mytouch slide is getting update i see no reason why they shouldn't update the legend either
the my touch has :
320x480 screen
600mhz cpu (same as legend i believe)
387mb ram
512mb rom
so spec wise its very similar to legend so its got nothing to do with the lack of snapdragon or screen res.
and tbh all devices even 1st gen should get an update for 1 very big reason JIT!
it will make everything faster.
really there is no reason not to update the legend
if all of us email them they might give an update let the legend 2.2 outcry begin!
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However that phone has the Espresso ver of Sense not the reg one.
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However that phone has the Espresso ver of Sense not the reg one.
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why should the sense version matter ? either way they have to update sense on all the models to support the new 2.2 features for example why not just resize the desire one which is essentially the same as the legend minus the live wallpaper support
either way im sure 2.2 will popup in other non official roms
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However that phone has the Espresso ver of Sense not the reg one.
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people forget about the specs these are not comparable to win xp & then vista & then win 7, these are not resource hungry, I reckon its handset selling gimmicks of HTC, i have fallen victim to it; i have sold my hero & bought LEGEND; now i suppose history is going to repeat itself on legend. this time wait is going to be for FROYO.
New article found now:
http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/33238/htc-phones-android-os-updates
i think we have update
Pff I bought the Legend in stead of the desire because I thought it would have better support on forums and from HTC (since it was the succesor to Hero) bad mistake, really hope we get the update, but I'm not really counting on it.
There is no reason why Legend shouldn't get the update...the specs are surelly enought. No need to panic guys....i mean even if there will be no official rom with 2.2 rom (which i trully doubt) there will be plenty of rooted roms available.
Let's just wait and see.
just wait n watch what HTC does. If they release 2.2 for Legend then is well gud otherwise HTC will loose its credibility..........
Update to froyo for htc legend is clearly 100% sure come on guys! It's sure because it's a phone tha has 2-3 months of life! It's sure htc will update it. The problem is when...even if I don't understand where is the difficulty to upgrade from 2.1 to 2.2, it seems very simple, in fact google will update n1 in the next 2 weeks...I don't think the senseUI is so hard to update, considering that this upgrade is not revolutionary! The very cool features of froyo are simple to add to a device working on 2.1. So HTC move your ass and make this upgrade available for max september. If we will not have the upgrade for september will be really bad for a company like HTC that wants to fight against apple. So please make your engineers work hard to give us this upgrade quickly, considering it's also quite simple to do it.
you are absolutely right mate. legend has the power to run it. also Froyo has been built for more speed and stability. So unless HTC dont want to upgrade it for its marketing reasons, we ll have Froyo running on our legends.
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you are absolutely right mate. legend has the power to run it. also Froyo has been built for more speed and stability. So unless HTC dont want to upgrade it for its marketing reasons, we ll have Froyo running on our legends.
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I had a diamond 2 before the legend, and ii OS was windows mobile 6.1. HTC made available the 6.5 upgrade for free, so I can't imagine this time will do different. So it's only matter of time, and we all hope max 2-3 months from now it's enough.
Froyo (pre-rooted) out for the Nexus
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=686631
This german article says:
Legend will get the 2.2 update.
"in the second half 2010"
With Android 2.3 Gingerbread due out before the end of the year. How long do you think it will take HTC to push out the upgrade ?
IMO HTC are not the fastest of companies to update their OS the latest google offerings.
The new Samsung is rumored to be running 2.3 out of the box.
Whats your thoughts ?
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With Android 2.3 Gingerbread due out before the end of the year. How long do you think it will take HTC to push out the upgrade ?
IMO HTC are not the fastest of companies to update their OS the latest google offerings.
The new Samsung is rumored to be running 2.3 out of the box.
Whats your thoughts ?
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2-3 months maybe according to what happened to the desire.. that new samsung is AOSP based isnt it.. not touchwiz, lets see when Galaxy S will be getting gingerbread officially
IMO HTC are not the fastest of companies to update their OS the latest google offerings.
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absolutely agreed they build really cool phones, but they are indeed not famous for software updates...
2-3 months maybe according to what happened to the desire..
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when I see that my working colleagues with a HTC legend are still on android 2.1 I doubt a software update in the first year... :\ Although DHD may be (one of their) top phones. But lets hope HTC improves on that, I would even pay for Android version upgrades...
Isn't Gingerbread rumoured not suppose to allow for any overlays.? If so then I doubt it will come to the DHD.
in my experience owning HTC handsets with sense, there will only be 1 update during the life time of the gadget. being 2.3 or 3.0, don't expect it to be any time soon, especially when current DHD is not every widely available yet.
I say 6-8 month at least.
Its one annoying aspect of owning HTC sense phone, they are not a software specialist.
However, the fact that Samsung is getting Nexus Two with Gingerbread probably means HTC is under pressure to have at least one cracking phone with 2.3. We can only wait and see if they choose to update DHD or launch a new line.
Really hated Galaxy S and gutted that's what the Nexus Two will be based on
People always say HTC isn't the best with updates... but who is, aside from google with the nexus one?
I agree no one is quick in getting software updates so no reason to just slag off HTC.
I really hope HTC don't take too long. But then again i plan on rooting and loading a custom gingerbread rom, stock of course. Now about that root...
SupremeBeaver said:
I really hope HTC don't take too long. But then again i plan on rooting and loading a custom gingerbread rom, stock of course. Now about that root...
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hehehe what about having the phone first
you might do what i'm plaining to do http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=8911576#post8911576
riz157 said:
I agree no one is quick in getting software updates so no reason to just slag off HTC.
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I have to diagree.
HTC is the first and biggest androids producer. They made Nexus One which is great when it comes to software support. If anyone they should be setting the standard not dragging the progress. They said it themselves that they wanted to benefit from the "Google Experience", and frankly speaking they are the last brand on earth to have excuses for not keeping up with android progress.
wendy75 said:
Isn't Gingerbread rumoured not suppose to allow for any overlays.? If so then I doubt it will come to the DHD.
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That doesnt make any sense the os is supposed to be free to anyone to use any overlay or luncher they want to use
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I ve heard the same thing as well. supposed to be one of google's way to resolve the OS fragmentation problem. However I heard that's going to happen in Honeycomb, not Gingerbread.
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I ve heard the same thing as well. supposed to be one of google's way to resolve the OS fragmentation problem. However I heard that's going to happen in Honeycomb, not Gingerbread.
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ooh interesting, that would be stir things up a bit becuase that would mean if samsungs phones are the same as htc (software), then they have to either battle on hardware or price
but no sense
wendy75 said:
Isn't Gingerbread rumoured not suppose to allow for any overlays.? If so then I doubt it will come to the DHD.
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It's a debunked rumor. AOSP interface has barely changed with Android 2.3
My guess is 2-3 months, One of the reasons I chose HTC was because they are among the fastest to update ( I love Sense ). Samsung just started rolling 2.2 out, Sony Ericsson haven't even updated to 2.2, Sony Ericsson getting 2.1 this weekend..
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My guess is 2-3 months, One of the reasons I chose HTC was because they are among the fastest to update ( I love Sense ). Samsung just started rolling 2.2 out, Sony Ericsson haven't even updated to 2.2, Sony Ericsson getting 2.1 this weekend..
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I ll bet £50 it ll take more than 3 months, any taker?
It took HTC 8 month to update Hero.
cezent said:
I ll bet £50 it ll take more than 3 months, any taker?
It took HTC 8 month to update Hero.
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Yes,but then again,the Hero was an old,outdated device then.Desire had already come out and there were many better devices out there.Remember that the Desire was one of the first phones to get Froyo(I think second after the Nexus One).Don't be so sure it will take much time...
tolis626 said:
Yes,but then again,the Hero was an old,outdated device then.Desire had already come out and there were many better devices out there.Remember that the Desire was one of the first phones to get Froyo(I think second after the Nexus One).Don't be so sure it will take much time...
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I'd be happy to be proven wrong, but my point being people buying DHD shouldn't put too much hope in getting gingerbread immediately. DHD hardware is superb and the sense overlay on 2.2 has got lots of great features, and its probably just a matter of time before DHD get rooted and 2.3 be ported over anyway.
I f none of these matters as much as getting 2.3 straightaway, hold on for a couple more weeks and get the Nexus Two is probably a better idea(and wear the pain of a samsung phone, I m not falling for that again)
if i recall gingerbread was roughly estimated for december/janurary
thought there were still issues with oracle and google over android using dalvik vm?so I thought, yes me only- not starting a rumor- that that might have delayed it as dalvik is part of java and ISN'T open source?
anyways your device doesnt get 1 update only
look at the mytouch 3g? had android 1.5, 1.6 and 2.2 3 upgradeds in its life?
now look at the desire, htc call it a high end product. it was on 2.1 is running 2.2 and will definately get gingerbread when it comes out, but no time scale will be given for that.
HTC are better then any company in giving updates if anything compared to other companies.
when an company decides to put its own overlay is when things get delayed. if they keep it vanilla releases would be quick and easy, but how do you make your device unique? what features do you add to make you stand out the crowd?
El_Nino9 said:
if i recall gingerbread was roughly estimated for december/janurary
thought there were still issues with oracle and google over android using dalvik vm?so I thought, yes me only- not starting a rumor- that that might have delayed it as dalvik is part of java and ISN'T open source?
anyways your device doesnt get 1 update only
look at the mytouch 3g? had android 1.5, 1.6 and 2.2 3 upgradeds in its life?
now look at the desire, htc call it a high end product. it was on 2.1 is running 2.2 and will definately get gingerbread when it comes out, but no time scale will be given for that.
HTC are better then any company in giving updates if anything compared to other companies.
when an company decides to put its own overlay is when things get delayed. if they keep it vanilla releases would be quick and easy, but how do you make your device unique? what features do you add to make you stand out the crowd?
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You're the man!
I really can't believe HTC .... They are giving a phone which is about a year older than desire z sense update and we are still on waiting list ... Were desire z sales really that ****ty for them that they are punishing us for buying it ?
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+1 ... Yet another time we HTC owners feel fooked over by the company... that promises updates on updates.. I had the Tattoo... no update, and i've had the SE Xperia Mini Pro... no Update... HTC promised Desire Z update within Q1 of 2011.. and look where we are.. Curses! And how come they speak in the media about Unlocking and open up for rooting on NEWER models..? They do not mention to unlock the phones they just locked with the latest update.. Only newer... Tragic!
The evo was a huge flagship device with a bunch of "first" promises look at it from another point of view, HTC is keeping good on the "first idea"
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If you want to look at it from a Marketing angle. EVO 4G came before G2. So YES, they will update that before us G2 / Desire Z owners. Got to look at the line up of what came before G2/Desire Z, THEN you see how far down the waiting list we are.
-Kiyo
I don't really see what the big deal is here...
Gingerbread is available to us through Custom ROMS.... For me, the developer support behind the DZ was one of the main reasons I decided to purchase it.
The EVO is a flagship device for HTC so I can understand why they decided to get it updated before the DZ/G2...
The official update will come, just give it time. In the meanwhile, try one of the many custom roms we have to choose from.
actually the update was confirmed to be in july for the desire z a while ago, so dont worry
I'm a little confused here too, but not by HTC's update schedule. I'm confused as to why a bunch of rooted users running some impressive dev ROMS would care about an official update. This is like getting a fully loaded pizza with anything and everything and looking longingly at the half-cold cheese pizza. Gingerbread 2.3 is already here for us and has been for a while. I figured the entire point of rooting was to enable a user to have the latest, most updated software ASAP.. and have a wide selection. I'll let the non-rooted mainstream worry about when the next official OTA drops.
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I'm a little confused here too, but not by HTC's update schedule. I'm confused as to why a bunch of rooted users running some impressive dev ROMS would care about an official update. This is like getting a fully loaded pizza with anything and everything and looking longingly at the half-cold cheese pizza. Gingerbread 2.3 is already here for us and has been for a while. I figured the entire point of rooting was to enable a user to have the latest, most updated software ASAP.. and have a wide selection. I'll let the non-rooted mainstream worry about when the next official OTA drops.
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* I'm just sayin......
HTC have said the update will arrive before the end of June, which still gives them a month before they break any promises.
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Guys its not about having leaked updates or devs making update for us .... Rule of thumb is that newer phone should get update before older phone .... Desire z was released a month or 2 after desire HD ... Yet they got official update a month back ... And now even an older phone like evo is getting update before ours . Getting official update means more stable bug free Rom along with its source code so that devs start working on it properly.... We haven't got that and apparently we will get that around start of July . That's a damn shame ....
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The EVO was pretty much the only decent Android phone on Sprint for a long time, while the markets with the DZ have had a choice of devices. And although Sprint is the #3 carrier in the US, they are still relatively large. And the US is probably HTC's largest market. Don't know the exact numbers of DZ users versus EVO, but it would seem from these factors that there are more EVO users than DZ users, and HTC has to prioritize somehow. That doesn't mean that the DZ is "useless".
Besides, latest promise from HTC is before the end of Q2 (end of June) for us to get the update. If they keep that promise, that's only a few weeks after the EVO gets it, at most. And it might be sooner.
http://pocketnow.com/android/htc-updates-desire-z-gingerbread-status-out-by-end-of-june
While I'm fairly annoyed that we seem to be last to get Gingerbread on our phones, its been quoted at Q2 for quite some time, so I hope to get it this month. Its more because I have some weird issues with the 1.72 software than features.
I can understand devs wanting to see the ROM as they probably want the official Kernel source, or apps like Sense out of it to cook into their own ROMs.
All said, is HTC actually working on Gingerbread for DZ? There has only been 1 very early leak compared to a "final" for the G2. Granted, they have Sense to test too but that was in March (28th ish)
Lets hope for delivery within the next 30 days.
Craig
wasnt the G2 official OTA sent out? and i seriously think HTC have just one lazy ass developer working on Desire Z GB update.... cause desire HD got update one month ago and that was released 2 months before desire z...this is most definatley gonna be my last HTC phone... i aint gonna buy HTC devices any more . they just churn out newer model of cell phones every month and apparently just 6 month old is too old for them to even bother pushing out an update for it on time...
and about Evo. well after htc had the update finalized it has to be tested by sprint ppl before its sent out as OTA. and yet they got it before us. i mean seriously i am so damn pissed at HTC...
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wasnt the G2 official OTA sent out? and i seriously think HTC have just one lazy ass developer working on Desire Z GB update.... cause desire HD got update one month ago and that was released 2 months before desire z...this is most definatley gonna be my last HTC phone... i aint gonna buy HTC devices any more . they just churn out newer model of cell phones every month and apparently just 6 month old is too old for them to even bother pushing out an update for it on time...
and about Evo. well after htc had the update finalized it has to be tested by sprint ppl before its sent out as OTA. and yet they got it before us. i mean seriously i am so damn pissed at HTC...
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chill, bro. it's just a phone.
and no, us G2 owners have not received Gingerbread OTA... I'm not sure why any one here would care anyway, as most of us are already on Gingerbread. yeah, there will probably be some improvements with new source released, but you're blowing this a bit out of proportion.
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wasnt the G2 official OTA sent out? and i seriously think HTC have just one lazy ass developer working on Desire Z GB update.... cause desire HD got update one month ago and that was released 2 months before desire z...this is most definatley gonna be my last HTC phone... i aint gonna buy HTC devices any more . they just churn out newer model of cell phones every month and apparently just 6 month old is too old for them to even bother pushing out an update for it on time...
and about Evo. well after htc had the update finalized it has to be tested by sprint ppl before its sent out as OTA. and yet they got it before us. i mean seriously i am so damn pissed at HTC...
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Are you serious? There are so many other brands that are way worse than HTC about this kind of stuff. At least we're getting gingerbread at all. Other brands just leave their older phones in the dust after 6+ months if even that. I really don't think you'll be as happy with another brand of phone. HTC phones have the best development going on hands down too.
Seriously, what's with the HTC hate? The fragmented nature of Android is as much Google's fault as the manufacturers'. I for one think HTC is pretty awesome. When a huge corporation actually LISTENS to a small rooting/enthusiast community and unlocks their bootloaders, that's a good day. I see the benefit to having that official source code, but I'm running a 2.3 leak with LP+ and Spare Parts and it's so fast and smooth it's almost ridiculous. Again, why is it a big deal?? I have zero complaints and know the devs here can do some amazing stuff, with or without the official OTA source. It only gets even better from here.
Well guys I was the biggest iPhone hater and HTC supporter you could ever think of . But now I'm seriously considering getting an iPhone after desire z . No matter how locked down the platform is at least they provide updates to all phones on time for 2 years atleast and your phone remains the best phone least a year ....
Or I might go with the nexus series atleast they get the updates quicker . But up till GB.... plain Android is very bland for my taste . I hope they really bring some slick UI for icecream . So that I can break my bond with sense and live happily with cyanogen mod
I like Windows phone too but I ain't ready to jump to it until the next major update after mango arrives .... To me its still not as polished as other OS even with mango .
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Are you serious? There are so many other brands that are way worse than HTC about this kind of stuff. At least we're getting gingerbread at all. Other brands just leave their older phones in the dust after 6+ months if even that. I really don't think you'll be as happy with another brand of phone. HTC phones have the best development going on hands down too.
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Well guys I was the biggest iPhone hater and HTC supporter you could ever think of . But now I'm seriously considering getting an iPhone after desire z . No matter how locked down the platform is at least they provide updates to all phones on time for 2 years atleast and your phone remains the best phone least a year ....
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At least with HTC when HTC stop releasing updates, you have an excellent community where you can pick up unofficial updates. I have an O2 XDA Orbit 2 (Polaris) with Cyanogenmod 7.0.2 which I'm playing with.
I really like Sense, I also find stock Android bland, so I'll be waiting for official GB
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Well guys I was the biggest iPhone hater and HTC supporter you could ever think of . But now I'm seriously considering getting an iPhone after desire z . No matter how locked down the platform is at least they provide updates to all phones on time for 2 years atleast and your phone remains the best phone least a year ....
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How can an iPhone update not be "on time"? There is only one iPhone. So you can't have the same situation like this "EVO has the update, why don't we". Yes, they have older iPhone generations, but that doesn't really count, IMO, since they have only made incremental improvements to the phone, and no really significant changes. Pretty much the same phone every time, just slightly better CPU and memory specs each time, and cosmetic changes.
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I like Windows phone too but I ain't ready to jump to it until the next major update after mango arrives .... To me its still not as polished as other OS even with mango .
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WP7 is pretty much the worst of all worlds. Closed platform with hardly any apps. And incredibly poor sales indicate a very hard road for Microsoft at best. At worst, another dead phone OS from MS, with WP7 owners left out in the cold.
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Seriously, what's with the HTC hate? I for one think HTC is pretty awesome.
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Yeah, agree. HTC has finite resources, and can't update everyone all at one time. Just because they are a bit later updating one phone versus another, people flip out. You want to see awful update support, look at Samsung.
this is the transcipt of chat between a guy named Hemant Tailor and HTC customer service UK. he posted on the HTC uk wall... im just copy pasting here....
Hemant Tailor
Conversation with HTC UK support on chat...not looking good for 2.3 update on Desire Z:-
Please wait while we find an agent to assist you...
All agents are currently busy. Please stand by.
You are currently at position number 4 in the queue.
An agent will be with you in a moment. Thank you for your patience.
You are currently at position number 4 in the queue.
You have been connected to Georgina.
Georgina: Hi hemant, thank you for contacting HTC Support.
hemant tailor: hi gina
Georgina: Currently we do not have a date for when this is going to be released
hemant tailor: i thought it was gonna be by the end of the month
hemant tailor: ....
Georgina: We do not know
Georgina: when we do we will inform all customers
hemant tailor: is scheduled for the desire z
hemant tailor: will the desire z get the 2.3 GB update???
Georgina: it will we just do not know when
hemant tailor: Not impressed.....bye
Georgina: Thank you for contacting us, I hope you have a great day
guys we are just **** out of luck.... all HTC care about is to kiss sprint customers ass... nothing else.... providing updates to Evo Evo 3D and Merge... thats their world... all the other ppl dont matter
Edit: just did live chat myself.... here it is....
Ian: Hi Muneeb, thank you for contacting HTC Support. How may I help you today?
Muneeb : hello
Muneeb : i want to know when should we expect gingerbread update for desire Z
Ian: The update to 2.3 should be available later this year.
Muneeb : previously it was told that the desire Z should get update before end of june . that no longer holds true correct?
Ian: I apologise I am unable to confirm this, I would advise you to look on our website for any updates as to when this is released.
Muneeb : okay.
Eh, I'm a bit more optimistic. These days, updates and such hardly ever come out at the planned release date. It makes sense from their standpoint to upgrade other phones too. There are so many more people on the Evo than on the G2/DZ for example, so it makes sense to upgrade the devices with the most users. Even if we don't get it officially or it doesn't come for a long time, we will still get custom ROMs with the updates.
the Dev community is the only reason im still using my desire Z . but this is definitively my last HTC device for sure..... i rather go with a developer edition phone (nexus series) next time.. or get myself nokia powered windows phone 7....(if they bring out some really really sweet hardware like the Sea Ray)
I can't live without the HTC Dialer. I like the Mail app much better too than stock. And there is massive dev support; I don't really see a downside to a HTC phone.
I am happily running Virtuous Unity 1.26 and its pretty near perfect!
You think HTC is bad with updates? Good luck with any other brand, much much worse.
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slapshot30 said:
You think HTC is bad with updates? Good luck with any other brand, much much worse.
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Not to mention that HTC don't seem to tell the customer service anything regarding future updates. This has happened time again.
Ps, I've also had the "updates from other brands" rant many a time.. HTC are one of the better ones.
This is a bit of a letdown, but I know we'll get some nice ROMs for the Desire Z, so I'm not that worried.
Is it true that, from a developers point of view, being able to use an official HTC gingerbread rom will make for a much more stable foundation for future custom roms? That's always been the main reason why I've been hoping HTC release this update even though we currently have custom gingerbread roms.
Actually i am starting to lose faith about Htc's software division.
I credit them for making incredibly good phones, but their software division seems not to be the best. For example: They said on their Facebook page that they had abandoned the work on getting 2.3 on the old Desire, and when alot of people (including me) commented on that post about that people at XDA-Developers had gotten 2.3 to work on the old Desire several months ago, then Htc went out with "We WILL release 2.3 for the Desire, we started working on it again"
That made me doubt their competence in the software area...
and also i read that: Htc are only obliged to send out OTA updates the first 18 months after a product is released, so if the model you bought is more than 18 months, then you shouldn't be so sure to get any updates at all =/
btw, why wait for an official 2.3 when there is several good working 2.3 roms here at xda?
What devices will not get Android 4.0?
We work hard to ensure each of our products has the optimal user experience and therefore some products will remain at their current version of Android. In general, devices with 512MB ROM or less will not be upgraded to Android 4.0. These devices include the HTC ChaCha, HTC Salsa, HTC Wildfire S, HTC Explorer, and others.
HTC tablets, including the HTC Flyer, HTC EVO View 4G, and HTC Jetstream, will remain on their current Android version (Honeycomb).
Upgrades are not the same thing as ongoing support. Devices not being upgraded to Android 4.0 will still get software improvements, security fixes, and technical support as needed.
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Source: http://www.htc.com/www/help/android4faq/?cid=android4blog
No shock there. Vision owners got their Android bump from 2.2 to 2.3, they weren't going to bother with another.
Unfortunate there was no mention of the Desire HD though, want those drivers...
Edit: Nvm, July-August! Yay.
Then how come htc desire c has ice cream sandwich???
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Excuse me but isn't ROM the internal memory meaning we qualify" Or is it actually RAM? I'm confused. ROM is non-writable so it's definately not RAM...?
Why be care so much about rom? Isn't it ram they are concerned with?
But on topic htc is making a mistake here, even if they feel sense 4.x will be too slow they could bring just an aosp ics rom in, add their bloatware and our phone should be up to par with many phones currently running stock ics, and probably better than some. The g2/dz are not dinosaurs and developers have proved the stability porting ics here, this would be a mistake especially if we don't have a g3 soon... I wouldn't ming changing to a new manufacture if this is the case...
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If this is the case:
ROM is "built-in" computer memory containing data that normally can only be read, not written to. ROM contains the programming that allows your computer to be "booted up" or regenerated each time you turn it on. Unlike a computer's random access memory (RAM), the data in ROM is not lost when the computer power is turned off. The ROM is sustained by a small long-life battery in your computer.
It means we will get ICS? We have 1.5GB of internal memory.
This is to my first point, its as if htc didn't edit their post
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ICS with Sense 4.0 works perfect on our desire z. it's extremly fast and optimized. but no camera drivers and sound drivers are not very good.
those new devices with ICS (one v and desire c) both have 512 mb RAM and desire c has 600 (!) mhz CPU, I will never ever buy HTC phone again. no support = no loyalty
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It means we will get ICS? We have 1.5GB of internal memory.
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U got 1.5 GB memory? I have "only" 1.1 GB, on every ROM.
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EDIT: They wrote at the down: Upgrade to Android 4.0 means Sense 3.6.
And: Sense 4.0 need special hardware ****.
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ICS with Sense 4.0 works perfect on our desire z. it's extremly fast and optimized. but no camera drivers and sound drivers are not very good.
those new devices with ICS (one v and desire c) both have 512 mb RAM and desire c has 600 (!) mhz CPU, I will never ever buy HTC phone again. no support = no loyalty
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You need to read better.
HTC did not say that it will stop supporting these phones. they said that they will not get there ICS upgrade.
And about the Desire C and One V. Yes they are low spec phones with ICS but they have Sense 4.0, wich runs way faster then 3.6 ( wich older phones will be updated with ).
So newer phones Sense 4.0. Older phones 3.6.
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You need to read better.
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my reading is ok, don't worry dude
HTC did not say that it will stop supporting these phones. they said that they will not get there ICS upgrade.
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it doesn't matter what they say. "support" means at least time zone fix, peep updates, keyboard and other bugz fix etc. and ofcourse new OS if device is suitable. and sure it is.
And about the Desire C and One V. Yes they are low spec phones with ICS but they have Sense 4.0, wich runs way faster then 3.6 ( wich older phones will be updated with ).
So newer phones Sense 4.0. Older phones 3.6.
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so what's the point, "captain obvious"? thats what everybody was talkin about. sense 4.0 lighter, faster, better and low spec phones can easily run and use it.
Mine will
xxx_1910 said:
it doesn't matter what they say. "support" means at least time zone fix, peep updates, keyboard and other bugz fix etc. and ofcourse new OS if device is suitable. and sure it is.
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Only our device is unique in the product lineup because it has a physical keyboard. You'll see the Mytouch 4G Slide has no ICS and it also has a keyboard and is a much more a capable device.
I'd say the actual problem is the software development required to engineer Sense 4.0 to our device. We have a very custom version of Sense 2.1 that features rotating widgets and keyboard optimisations which will be the reason our updates are out of the standard cycle, we didn't get Sense 3.x and probably won't get ICS.
Its not a matter of the device suitability, its all about the Sense interface and in all honesty its not worth HTC's development as they're reportedly not producing any more QWERTY phones.
If you want ICS, you'll be going down a ported ROM route.
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Why be care so much about rom? Isn't it ram they are concerned with?
But on topic htc is making a mistake here, even if they feel sense 4.x will be too slow they could bring just an aosp ics rom in, add their bloatware and our phone should be up to par with many phones currently running stock ics, and probably better than some. The g2/dz are not dinosaurs and developers have proved the stability porting ics here, this would be a mistake especially if we don't have a g3 soon... I wouldn't ming changing to a new manufacture if this is the case...
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I already changed to Sony:
1.- Currently updating ALL their 2011 line to ICS
2.- Official bootloader unlocking tool (!!!)
3.- Light UX skin, not as heavy as Sense
4.- Xperia S offered 12 mpix Exmor-R cam and 1280x720 4.3" screen, I couldn't say no...
...and 5.- My DZ failed after 8 months of modrate use (capacitive buttons) and HTC refused to receive it for repair because I was not in the phone's country of origin (got it from an online retailer, the batch was from Bell Canada)
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U got 1.5 GB memory? I have "only" 1.1 GB, on every ROM.
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EDIT: They wrote at the down: Upgrade to Android 4.0 means Sense 3.6.
And: Sense 4.0 need special hardware ****.
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HTC G2 HBoot? (it wouldn't run Sense though)
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Its not a matter of the device suitability, its all about the Sense interface
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yes u are right but every custom interface (2.3.* or 4.0.*) has rotating rosie and rotating widgets (except MIUI may be), so I don't think that's a big problem for such a big company. they just don't give a **** about us
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yes u are right but every custom interface (2.3.* or 4.0.*) has rotating rosie and rotating widgets (except MIUI may be), so I don't think that's a big problem for such a big company. they just don't give a **** about us
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All companies are in this to make money, and no money is to be made updating a phone that is nearing it's two year anniversary and has been discontinued. I say it all the time to people about Android phones, you buy one for what it has right now, not what it might get in the future. The most you can expect an OEM to support you is one major OS version, and that's what we got. They want you to buy a new phone, and there is no incentive if they keep you updated.
Apple does the same thing. Sure they update phones to a better version number, but they intentionally lock older phones out of new features to get you to upgrade. The only thing they care about is getting your $, all phone manufacturers are the same. That said, Sony has been stepping up their game lately.....
But if they don't make a new generation phone compareable to the one they refuse to update many will change to a new manufacture - in this case no g3 means die hard htc fans will no longer be that
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gtrab said:
I already changed to Sony:
1.- Currently updating ALL their 2011 line to ICS
2.- Official bootloader unlocking tool (!!!)
3.- Light UX skin, not as heavy as Sense
4.- Xperia S offered 12 mpix Exmor-R cam and 1280x720 4.3" screen, I couldn't say no...
...and 5.- My DZ failed after 8 months of modrate use (capacitive buttons) and HTC refused to receive it for repair because I was not in the phone's country of origin (got it from an online retailer, the batch was from Bell Canada)
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No probs with HTC here.
My Z still stands strong. Got it since release here in Norway. Just waiting for a ICS rom w/ sense 4 that support nordic HW-buttons. No need for Sony
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All companies are in this to make money, and no money is to be made updating a phone that is nearing it's two year anniversary and has been discontinued. I say it all the time to people about Android phones, you buy one for what it has right now, not what it might get in the future. The most you can expect an OEM to support you is one major OS version, and that's what we got. They want you to buy a new phone, and there is no incentive if they keep you updated.
Apple does the same thing. Sure they update phones to a better version number, but they intentionally lock older phones out of new features to get you to upgrade. The only thing they care about is getting your $, all phone manufacturers are the same. That said, Sony has been stepping up their game lately.....
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my english is not good enough to write so long and correct posts, but I partially agree with u. and u have to argree that our desire z always was lagging behind. no 3.0 update, no 3.5. yes, they made 2.3.3 (2.1 Sense) update, but gingerbread release was not far away from desire z start of sales
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But if they don't make a new generation phone compareable to the one they refuse to update many will change to a new manufacture - in this case no g3 means die hard htc fans will no longer be that
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yep. no updates cause of market reasons and no new phone of the same type