What if I'm rooted and there's an OTA? - myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

1. can I accept it if I'm on the stock rom?
2. if not, will there be a comprehensive update from the dev community with new radios and the updated rom?

We already got the update go look in dev section for glacier gingerbread leak posted by faux123, not teampokerface
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This wasn't always true in the past on older phones, but on the MT4G and you're rooted, you won't receive OTA updates even if you're on the stock ROM.

so in other words i have to unroot to get the ota update when it comes out?

Gregory.u317 said:
so in other words i have to unroot to get the ota update when it comes out?
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no, those are the exact words.

The new OTA will be GB MySense, we've had it for over a week. We now also have GB Sense 2.1 built specifically for our hardware. So in other words, everything tmo has to offer and SO much more is already posted in the dev section. The pecking order of AOSP>Sense>MySense pretty much means that it takes FOREVER to get updates, so official OTA's are like celebrating Christmas in July.

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[Q] is any one still waiting on 2.2 to update OTA?

I'm still waiting on the update. Dose it matter if I'm rooted or not and wll I lose root when the update hits?
I have had no update to my firmware as of yet.
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2 things. Did I miss the update being released? And I have yet to load a leak because I need infrastructure wifi. The update will remove your root and you will need to re root after you get it. Also, the update probably won't install ota if you aren't running stock rom/kernel. At least the other updates haven't installed with modified stuff.
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I thought 2.2 was suppose to b pushed nov 11 if I'm not mistaken. And I'm still running everything stock just rooted.
Could any one reccomend a good coustom 2.2 kernal to flash to? I don't think I wanna wait too long for 2.2
2.2 source is not out yet. No custom kernels until it's released.
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Also 2.2 is not released yet.samsung is saying by year end.
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Guess lii have to wait. Thaks ne way
Samsung is a joke for software.....its almot the end of november and still no update.....what are there devs seriously doing
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imtjnotu said:
Samsung is a joke for software.....its almot the end of november and still no update.....what are there devs seriously doing
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They are waiting for XDA dev to come up with a stable ROM.
acegolfer said:
They are waiting for XDA dev to come up with a stable ROM.
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Sad... but they probably are. Lol
Just wish they would learn a few things from XDA.
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I've been using the quantum rom for a couple days now and the only problem I've had so far is it force closes when I try to use my flashlight program. Other than that everything works great so maybe you should flash it if you want 2.2 right now.
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the OTA hasnt been pushed yet. if you are rooted already, you will lose root.
if you're not running custom ROM/kernel you won't get the OTA.
daddymikey1975 said:
the OTA hasnt been pushed yet. if you are rooted already, you will lose root.
if you're not running custom ROM/kernel you won't get the OTA.
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You mean if you are running a custom rom. What about clock work? Will that cause any ota problems?
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crawrj said:
You mean if you are running a custom rom. What about clock work? Will that cause any ota problems?
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I stand corrected.. oversight on my part. Custom ROM/kernel will not get the OTA notification.
If you have the stock ROM/kernel, you'll get the OTA notification.
If you're rooted and using stock ROM, you'll lose root. Might lose custom recovery as well, but I'm not sure on that.
What I'd recommend, if you ARE rooted and you have custom recovery (clockwork), then wait for the release (like we all are) and it WILL show up here.
The Devs/chefs are all over this and waitng just like everyone else.
Patience is the key.
I flashed back to 2.1 stock last night. I'm going to wait for 2.2 OTA before I root again. Then I will wait a couple weeks until some nice stuff gets cooked up here on xda and is nice and stable before I flash any custom 2.2 items. I can wait.
I'm pretty sure everyone is waiting..
Yeh I guess ill just wait...guy at the sprint store promised 2.2 by the end of october and 4g by the end of november. I guess they will say any thing to sell a phone -__-
Any one know if touch wiz 3.0 will be in the 2.2 ota update?
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Any one know if touch wiz 3.0 will be in the 2.2 ota update?
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While none of us know what the end product will be the fact that the beta releases have tw3 more than likely means yes it will.
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I have been twiddling my thumbs for weeks waiting for the 2.2 OTA update. I got so impatient one night that I started downloading the necessary tools to root and install a leaked 2.2 version, but quickly settled down and decided to wait it out.
I also downloaded Samsung Kies; I am running Windows 7 64-bit, and the program will not boot from the .exe under any conditions (as administrator, under XP compatabilities, etc)... I have yet to even be able to see the program's interface or find any legitimate documentation for troubleshooting the software.
No complaints with the phone yet, but I am seriously disappointed that I have had to wait so long for 2.2... Samsung claims that this update will allow for quicker future Android updates, but I am taking that with a grain of salt considering the false announcements that have been made so far regarding its official release.
DevilDogVIKING said:
I've been using the quantum rom for a couple days now and the only problem I've had so far is it force closes when I try to use my flashlight program. Other than that everything works great so maybe you should flash it if you want 2.2 right now.
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The only thing I dont like about the leaks is the lock screen lag.... If it wasn't for that I would be using it everyday!

Rooting and Gingerbread

TmoNews has an article saying HTC will most likely upgrade some handsets to Gingerbread. Assuming the MyTouch 4G is on the list, will rooting the phone cause any problems with getting this update? If so I'll probably wait till the update is released before rooting.
Yes, I believe rooting will prevent any future OTA updates on your device; however I'm not sure waiting is a good idea. More often then not, a ROM will probably be available quicker if you just root now, then waiting for it "officially".
U won't got OTA updates if your rooted. But if u are rooted, u can have it before it's officially released for the device anyway.
Its a race actually. We don't know if the ROM will be available before the official 2.3 release. My money is on a custom ROM but only time will tell.
GO DEVS GO!
If you root, Custom ROM would be great. Plus, it gives a bit of time for people to try out the new Gingerbread and see what can be improved by the awesome Devs!!!
I had a question about this too. I backed up my phone with RM with a fresh wipe and everything so my data (when restored is pretty much right out the box) I only rooted to get rid of bloatware (wish I knew about titanium first though but its okay since I have a backup already of the system) But what I wanted to know is... if I unrooted and restored from the backup I have... then could I get an OTA update or no?
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Let's hope tmobile upgrades this phone I had a mytouch slide and been promised froyo coming soon for months now...
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[Q] I rooted and installed a ROM, what to do if 2.2 or 2.3 comes out?

rooted, installed cw recovery, installed jt's superclean 0.4 DI01 ROM, what would I do when 2.2 or 2.3 comes out? will I have to wait a couple days for a updated ROM to come out for that version of android? Or would I have to go back to stock?
Wait for a ROM... Much easier than dealing with having to go back to stock just for an ota
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Wait for a ROM... Much easier than dealing with having to go back to stock just for an ota
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this. and you know very shortly after an OTA comes out, or more likely before, it will be released here in multiple flavors. so i wouldn't worry about it.
ok cool. thanks
Thanks for the info....good post. I hope its true and we see it soon. Ignore PhoenixPath he likes to shoot down anyone.... Your thread 100% belongs here.
Would it be expected to have a Froyo 2.2 rom the same day it comes out OTA if Verizon somehow keeps it from being leaked before?
Powell730 said:
Would it be expected to have a Froyo 2.2 rom the same day it comes out OTA if Verizon somehow keeps it from being leaked before?
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I would think there would at least be a rooted version out the same day. A lot of it will depend on when it is released. If it gets released late at night or during the week, it may take a little longer than if it gets released earlier in the day or on like a Friday.
Another reason not to return to stock to get an update from Verizon: The update may prevent the phone from being rooted again by patching the security loophole that we exploit to gain root.
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[Q] gingerbread ?

I rooted my shift so i can use wifi tether. When, if htc releases 2.3 for the shift will i be able to load it or do i have to use a custom version? I rooted using the instructions on this site. Thanks in advance.
To be able to use the HTC drop you should ruu first, but I would just stay rooted it offers far more perks then being locked down
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Don't load the ruu. Load a stock rooted rom. It may be a long time if at all before an official update is rooted.
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Maybe im an idiot but if i thought if you were rooted and let it update with an official update i thought you were screwed thats why i said if you want htcs unroot if not flash one of the htc leaks which is out gingerbread with the new sense so it will get an update
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strapped365 said:
Maybe im an idiot but if i thought if you were rooted and let it update with an official update i thought you were screwed thats why i said if you want htcs unroot if not flash one of the htc leaks which is out gingerbread with the new sense so it will get an update
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As far as I know, any "official" update will break root.
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Usually someone will post the update but remove only the crap that breaks root. Wait until that is available and use it. It will be tempting to load the official update when you see posts around the various websites mentioning that it is going out to people BUT DON'T DO IT!!! You may forever lose root....as it seems the Shift was fairly involved to root the first time around I wouldn't hold my breath for the next update to get rooted very soon, if ever.
Also, based on the EVO 3D apparently having an encrypted bootloader I wouldn't be surprised if this is the last HTC phone I ever own unless they make a future Nexus phone.

Merge just got 2.3.4 (build 3.05.573.1), Shift still on 2.3.3

I wonder if this Merge update has the same bugs our 2.3.3 Evo Shift update from Sprint has like the major problem with the Sense reloading. If not, I hope that Sprint will follow very soon if this update if it doesn't have any major bugs.
Any Sprint insider info out there on if the Shift will be getting this 2.3.4 version too??? Especially if it fixes the Sense reloading issue.
What you should do is root your phone ASAP and NOT accept any OTA from HTC/Sprint while you still can. If you want to run Sense there are many Sense based ROMs you can flash.
Instructions here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1255360
Amen...
Ota go away!
Ota go away!
I will never again accept an ota update. That was the worst month and a half. The phone is running great now though. Try one of the sense based roms if you want to stick with sense.
im using the warm synergy and its great on my shift
Econ212 said:
Try one of the sense based roms if you want to stick with sense.
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And try Cyanogenmod 7 if you think sense is just shiney bloat.
Just say no to OTA's . When and IF the Shift gets another update hopefully people have learned their lesson. Don't accept OTA's. If your already rooted stay that way. Wait for updates to be worked on by the Dev's.
prboy1969 said:
Just say no to OTA's . When and IF the Shift gets another update hopefully people have learned their lesson. Don't accept OTA's. If your already rooted stay that way. Wait for updates to be worked on by the Dev's.
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+1 just ask the people that took the last OTA and suffered for a few months.
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Edit: don't want to confuse anyone so I edited my post
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crump84 said:
Ota? What's an ota? I just got a message saying there's a update for my phone... Should I take it..?
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Sure but before you do please do us all a favor so we don't have to read thru 50 threads that you will start. DON'T ACCEPT ANY OTA'S TIL A DEV HAS LOOKED IT OVER AND SAYS IT'S SAFE!
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crump84 said:
Ota? What's an ota? I just got a message saying there's a update for my phone... Should I take it..?
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Yes definately . Then take it to Sprint , and complain to them about about how it unrooted your phone
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prboy1969 said:
Yes definately . Then take it to Sprint , and complain to them about about how it unrooted your phone
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Hah !
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Just an FYI:
The last time there was a major OTA update for the Shift, I posted a working, rooted version of the update within four hours of us getting the zip file. I'm pretty sure we had a rooted Gingerbread Sense ROM available before the official update was available OTA for most of you.
I have no idea why anyone with an interest in keeping root access would ever accept an OTA update from Sprint.
x99percent said:
Just an FYI:
The last time there was a major OTA update for the Shift, I posted a working, rooted version of the update within four hours of us getting the zip file. I'm pretty sure we had a rooted Gingerbread Sense ROM available before the official update was available OTA for most of you.
I have no idea why anyone with an interest in keeping root access would ever accept an OTA update from Sprint.
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Could not have been said any better
x99percent said:
Just an FYI:
The last time there was a major OTA update for the Shift, I posted a working, rooted version of the update within four hours of us getting the zip file. I'm pretty sure we had a rooted Gingerbread Sense ROM available before the official update was available OTA for most of you.
I have no idea why anyone with an interest in keeping root access would ever accept an OTA update from Sprint.
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Yes, many n00bz accepted the ota, but the largest group got a new phone, either upgraded or got a replacement, and it came with the ota. I had to take my phone back and that's what happened to me. With the help of otaking and scaryghoul, I got my root back, and I am now rocking miui thanks to you

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