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Which android phone has full OpenGLES 2.0 support and most powerful GPU?

Hello!
I am looking for a new phone and would like to know which of the present android devices has full OpenGLES 2.0 support and the most powerful GPU for best game experience?
Thanks a lot!

So far from what I heard, the Samsung Galaxy S has the most powerful GPU. It is said to be 3 times faster than the GPU on the iPhone.

TI OMAP3 has the PowerVR GPU that's faster than in the Snapdragon processors. That's as far as I know.

Maybe an overclocked Droid/Milestone?

Zune HD has a nVidia Tegra last year, and this is about to come out
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCTWkJRxm5E&feature=player_embedded
And I bet they are thinking up some cool new phones that not only have Tegra2 and can play a version of Unreal Tournament, but finally add some controls to make it usable. There are bigger devices (tablets) that have Tegra and Android that are out ? or will be out before any phone. Just check engadget.

UberMario said:
So far from what I heard, the Samsung Galaxy S has the most powerful GPU. It is said to be 3 times faster than the GPU on the iPhone.
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where did u reed this m8?

my 2c milestone/droid for best gaming experience.
1 of the most powerfull gpu's but 1up's everyone else with hardware keyboard
so far have been able to play any game no issues, including Gangstar, and Sandstorm (basically GTA3 and Call of duty knock offs) no overclock
for Nova (Halo knock off) i'd say overclock to 800mhz just to smooth it out.
Also Marvel vs capcom and all the snes games are killer on it -> perfect emulation no need to OC
out of the box their are some mandatory downloads (like launcher pro) to smooth it out, but once thats handled it can easily keep up if not surpass the X10, N1, & Desire. and pass all of them in gaming - rumor has it droid 2 is coming out soon so might want to wait for that.
1 last thing, I also heard Galaxy S had the best benchmarks of them all and the best graphics chip (can't remember from where) but again... no keyboard
PS milestone (GSM droid) can be OC'd without needing to reboot or anything, just up it before you start playing Nova

Finally figured it out

Are you trying to run good 3d games like NOVA, NFS Shift, Gameloft HD games on your galaxy 3 and when you ran them you only saw beatiful white textures on the screen and then started to abuse your phone's GPU. Actually you are there isnt any problem with galaxy 3's hardware it can run all the gameloft HD titles without any lag.
You can see on the youtube that a phone (crap) like LG GT540 Optimus can run gameloft HD games. It has only 600mhz processor and 156 mb RAM and not a very powerful GPU.
The actual problem with galaxy 3 is that its opengl drivers cant render 32-bit graphics and are replaced by white ones. It is probably possible it get its opengl drivers get updated after it gets official froyo update or it also possible if some developers finds way to put drivers in the phone.

I would be very grateful to the man who develops the drivers for this....eagerly waiting 2 play 3d games on my phone !!...

Since we have no one who could even build a AOSP build for our phone (Well, i'm personally trying, but it's quite hard to find doc), i don't think it will come..
But ask samsung on their open source website

apoorv28 said:
The actual problem with galaxy 3 is that its opengl drivers cant render 32-bit graphics and are replaced by white ones.
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Are you sure? I think it's because of OpenGL ES2.0, but I don't know too much about rendering system in android...

Yes 100% sure.
I am 100% sure. If anyone wants a proof then could check out youtube with Samsung GT-I5510 running NFS SHIFT smoothly. It has the same hardware as g3 the only difference is a QWERTY keypad. Also must be already knowing that LG GT540 and ATE blade dont have a powerful GPU. On youtube you would find former running BIA2 HD, NOVA HD etc and latter running Asphalt 5 smoothly.
I myself dont way to fix this problem so try to contact samsung or find a way to fix this.

apoorv28 said:
Are you trying to run good 3d games like NOVA, NFS Shift, Gameloft HD games on your galaxy 3 and when you ran them you only saw beatiful white textures on the screen and then started to abuse your phone's GPU. Actually you are there isnt any problem with galaxy 3's hardware it can run all the gameloft HD titles without any lag.
You can see on the youtube that a phone (crap) like LG GT540 Optimus can run gameloft HD games. It has only 600mhz processor and 156 mb RAM and not a very powerful GPU.
The actual problem with galaxy 3 is that its opengl drivers cant render 32-bit graphics and are replaced by white ones. It is probably possible it get its opengl drivers get updated after it gets official froyo update or it also possible if some developers finds way to put drivers in the phone.
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is there a way to check the opengl version?
(or Glide as they called it back in the voodoo days
Just a note for 3d games i would love to see half life 1 ported to android how awesome would that be!

I5500 and LG phone CPU HAS 3D ACCELARATOR!

If you carefully saw my post it is GT-I5510 not GT-I5500. I dont much about the LG phone but GT-I5510 has the same hardware as g3.

i5510 has the same processor as Spica.
I5800 DOESN'T have 3D HW accelarator.

Szaby59 said:
i5510 has the same processor as Spica.
I5800 DOESN'T have 3D HW accelarator.
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I already know that g3 hasnt got a 3d hardware accelerator. Why arent you ready to accept the truth. G3 is not that crap as you think. Want this link out this video shows GT-I5510 running NFS SHIFT super smooth!!!!!!!
Link- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wjd5X9pe5aA&feature=youtube_gdata_player

But without 3D accelarator is crap for games.
I5510 has, that's why can run NFS Shift.

Man it wud b damn awesum if iv can play dem on our G3....
-Devilgod (United Devils)

i5510 have a Samsung S3C6410(Spica's) CPU with 667MHz clock, and 512MB RAM
i5800 have a Samsung S5P6422 with 667MHz clock, 256MB RAM
The CPU itself is the same(ARM1176JZF-S). Only differences at tech - our's is 45nm, Spica is 65nm.
And at all - our processor is cutted version(DMA channels, GPU, etc) of Spica's.
6410 have a dedicated graphics unit, with OpenGL ES 2.0 support. That's why games are running at 5501

Technically, the Spica does not have a GPU either.. Just have a look at it's perf on benchmark on 2D/3D.. Pretty much the same as the i5800.

JoHnNy08PL said:
i5510 have a Samsung S3C6410(Spica's) CPU with 667MHz clock, and 512MB RAM
i5800 have a Samsung S5P6422 with 667MHz clock, 256MB RAM
The CPU itself is the same(ARM1176JZF-S). Only differences at tech - our's is 45nm, Spica is 65nm.
And at all - our processor is cutted version(DMA channels, GPU, etc) of Spica's.
6410 have a dedicated graphics unit, with OpenGL ES 2.0 support. That's why games are running at 5501
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The specs that the mentioned about I5510 is totally wrong. You must have saw them link- onpdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=2582&c=samsung_gt-i5510
It neither has i5700 cpu (if you know i5700 wasnt able to run proper 3d games even worse than i5800 although it had better gpu) nor any 512 mb RAM. The origional specs are found on link- gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_551-3515.php
I dont blame you though cause many people know the wrong. This message is also for Szaby59.

"The specs that the mentioned about I5510 is totally wrong."
No, you can see here the complete spec, not just MHz: http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=2582&view=1&c=samsung_gt-i5510
CPU: Samsung S3C6410 downclocked to 667, then "Browse devices based on S3C6410" or http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=pdamaster&posted=1&cpu=a6410
And see devices...
"It neither has i5700 cpu (if you know i5700 wasnt able to run proper 3d games even worse than i5800 "
No it's the i5700 CPU, and can run 3D games with PROPER DRIVERS, which in Spica's case missing that's why i5700 can't run 3D games.
I5800 will never run any 3D game, because doesn't have the hardware to render it (ok you can play laggy white textures if it's enough for you).

I thank Szaby59 for taking interest in the thread. Now lets just gets rid off that i5510 (I have already tried my hands on it it has a slower UI than g3 and it has only 256 mb RAM not 512 mb as listed in your link but I am not sure about its CPU) topic it has gpu or not it dosent matters to us. We should think about galaxy 3. I actually a very big gamer yet I am in 9th grade only and have more than five years of extreme gaming experience. I am one of those guys who cant live without gaming even for 3 hrs. When I saw gameloft launching HD games for android I thought they would be supported on all android phones and resulted buying this crap. I already knew g3 had a bad gpu but my parents wont buy me a better phone.
Lets get down to the topic - Although g3 had problems with gpu I tried running some real 3d games on it and some of them even worked like raging thunder 2. Many people have problem running it on g3 and phones better than it. People usually see white textures on it but it ran it with full speed without any texture problem ( I going to upload its gameplay on youtube and paste its link here by tomorrow). Fifa 10 also worked on phone with only the texture of the field missing and rest of the details were ossom and the gameplay didnt lag. So after a plenty of research concluded that maybe the opengl drivers have problem rendering 32 bit textures just like spica. If there would have been a gpu problem rt2 wouldnt have ran so beautifully. So according to many people if its the gpu is weak then why does rt2 works on the phone? Please answer it.

What does it mean 'working' for you?
For me: good framerate, minimally 25 FPS, and correct textures.
In RG2 the whole car is a big white texture and lags.
If you wan't play some good game download angry birds or Sega Genesis Emulator and play old classics.
HD games maybe work, if the game doesn't require 3D accelarator.

Gsam101 said:
Since we have no one who could even build a AOSP build for our phone (Well, i'm personally trying, but it's quite hard to find doc), i don't think it will come..
But ask samsung on their open source website
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I Found this link of 3d drivers for the Spica, can it be modded on our G3.
http://forum.samdroid.net/f55/3d-driver-spica-1224/
http://forum.samdroid.net/f55/graphic-drivers-mix-3574/

For what?
Spica's CPU contains an OpenGL 2.0 ES 3D accelarator.
I5800 CPU only OpenVG and 2D.

[Q] Nvidia Tegra Zone Hack

Can the Epic be made to look like it's an Atrix phone so we can download these enhanced versions of the Tegra Games. I don't see any reason they wouldn't play on the Epic. The Samsung Hummingbird GPU is a beast.
http://www.androidcentral.com/nvidia-launches-tegra-zone-easily-find-tegra-2-android-applications

They are completely different architectures and have some unique functions calls to the GPU. They wouldn't work if they are Tegra specific releases.

i_guana said:
They are completely different architectures and have some unique functions calls to the GPU. They wouldn't work if they are Tegra specific releases.
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Right. Tegra Zone is for Honeycomb devices. As you may already know, Honeycomb allows developers to directly use the GPU. As we have neither Honeycomb nor a Tegra2, those apps wouldn't run for us.

nullghost said:
Right. Tegra Zone is for Honeycomb devices. As you may already know, Honeycomb allows developers to directly use the GPU. As we have neither Honeycomb nor a Tegra2, those apps wouldn't run for us.
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Wait, I thought the Atrix could use the Tegra Zone. That's not Honecomb. I think the device just has to have a Tegra 2 in it. I didn't know that ONLY Tegra 2 chips would play these enhanced games though. Thx for the info.

As far as I have read, Tegra Zone just makes it easier to find Tegra2-optimized apps from the market. Of course, they wouldn't run on other phones/devices either way.
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Something that really bothers me about tegra 2 and 3

Well i see lot of games coming for tegra this year
most of them for tegra 3
it really disappoints me
well somepoint iwill get the prime iguess in around 4 months in my birthday but until anyone has an idea if maybe a driver like chainfire could unabla tegra 3 on tegra 2
well iknow its not logic but you know like with chainfire that you can reduce texture quallity
(sorry for my really bad english XD)

well i have no idea what you asked

He wants to know if you can play tegra 3 games on a tegra 2 device.
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seems like what he is saying is that a lot of the newer games that have been announced have only been for tegra 3. but take shadowgun for example it was only soposed to be tegra 2 but later was given versions for otehr less powerfull chipsets. so i assue newer games will be announced for tegra 3 but after a month sor so there will be a tegra 2 version so not to worry. also im sure chainfire wil get right on it once more tegra 3 devices and games are out

I am guessing......
....and I could be wrong. That he is hoping that someone can wave a magic wand on all the new "Tegra 3 only" game titles (whatever they may be) and make them compatible with Tegra 2.
I believe, he thinks that Tegra 3 is driver related and not architecture change and therefore unlockable, like reducing the graphics settings on a new game to minimum so it plays on an old graphics card.
Sorry if that is not what you are thinking Hearmeman. Pure assumption on my part. Google "Differences between Tegra 2 and Tegra 3" and you will see it's not just graphics.

Well
about the architecture
i guess you can use qualcomm drivers and mali drivers on tegra 2
i cant any problems with tegra 3
i do know the chipset is changed
iguess chainfire will release a driver that allows that

Hehe, I'm down to 0 game on my TF. I guess I'm not as enthusiastic about tegra 3 as I should because I'm not a gamer.

Expect THD versions for Tegra 3 and then they will be adapted and the hardware restrictions will be lowered and given to other devices.
If a game was natively meant for Tegra 3, I wouldn't expect to see it on anything less than a Tegra 2 because then the developer would have to lower the game quality so much that it would insult how the game was meant to be played.

dont you think that they just can reduce texture or colors
it boost up the framerates
you see like in riptide they added motion blur and water splash nothing serious
im really looking forward to buy the prime the next few months but until then

Hmm, I must have been looking at other games, the ones I saw said they would be for T2 with enhanced versions for T3.

[Q] THD/Tegra Games on Nexus 4?

I come from a Nexus 7, and just figured that anything that was THD or Tegra-optimized, would have the best graphics available, and would only run on Tegra hardware.
So with the Nexus 4 having better hardware then the 7, would it be able to run these THD/Tegra-optimized games? I would think the only thing that might stop a THD game from working on non-Tegra hardware is if it used some Nvidia-specific GL extension or something, but idk.
Some games I had in mind were DEAD TRIGGER (They have a Tegra version, and a normal version, but would the normal version be the only choice?), Fruit Ninja THD, and Shadowgun.

Tegra-specific apps won't work on non-tegra chips. That used to be amendable by using Chainfire 3D, but development on that has ceased

with Dead Trigger you can enable the tegra 3 water effects and stuff by modifying one of the game config files: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=28264365&postcount=54

A little bump but i wanted to try arma but its tegra only...is there any way to bypass it?to actually play tha game?