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Wow! wonderful. so when will it be on the U.S?
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Now •••That's what I'm talking about !!!•••
This will take me away from my Vibrant for sure !!
@eunkipark92---thanks for the heads up
woooow...i will either change to this or the htc pyramid....simply amazing piece of work that is...
Agree, this does look pretty bad ass! I'm like the others, still waiting to see the confirmed specs and pics for the HTC Pyramid.
Hooray for dual core phones!!!!
- Mat
Very nice indeed. However, I think overall, I'd still prefer the Atrix 4G: timelier updates (save for the cliq debacle, which seems to have been an isolated incident, all other headsets that got FroYo rather quickly considered), a more manageable screen size (4" screen is the sweet spot for me), and a higher resolution screen, despite the smaller size (higher pixel density FTW).
We still don't know how much RAM it'll have, as the Atrix 4G will have 1GB and the only other dual core phone out now has only 512MB, and how big a battery it'll have (The Atrix 4G packing a 1930mAH), and whether it'll have fingerprint reader for unlocking the phone (highly doubtful though).
Unless the Galaxy S II has another trick up its sleeve, it'll lose my business. Samsung's "whatever" attitude helps no one. While Motorola is infinitely less developer friendly, with the Tegra 2 at the core, I doubt anyone will be hurting for speed, and there's still a certain degree of customization that can take place in stock phones, so those who hate Motoblur can go with a different launcher to change things up, among other things.
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Very nice indeed. However, I think overall, I'd still prefer the Atrix 4G: timelier updates (save for the cliq debacle, which seems to have been an isolated incident, all other headsets that got FroYo rather quickly considered), a more manageable screen size (4" screen is the sweet spot for me), and a higher resolution screen, despite the smaller size (higher pixel density FTW).
We still don't know how much RAM it'll have, as the Atrix 4G will have 1GB and the only other dual core phone out now has only 512MB, and how big a battery it'll have (The Atrix 4G packing a 1930mAH), and whether it'll have fingerprint reader for unlocking the phone (highly doubtful though).
Unless the Galaxy S II has another trick up its sleeve, it'll lose my business. Samsung's "whatever" attitude helps no one. While Motorola is infinitely less developer friendly, with the Tegra 2 at the core, I doubt anyone will be hurting for speed, and there's still a certain degree of customization that can take place in stock phones, so those who hate Motoblur can go with a different launcher to change things up, among other things.
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Atrix too expensive..
And u will be stuck with att...
I did some research for you, I'm Korean so I can get the infos from Korean website.
http://m.blog.naver.com/PostView.nhn?blogId=atomkit7&logNo=120122560143&categoryNo=0¤tPage=1&sortType=recent
U probably cant read it but it days it will have, 1gb ddr2 ram, with 1970 mah battery. 8 mega pixel camera with flash, 1080p and hdmi support
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150 bucks is less than I paid for my Vibrant.
Oh ny god :-( i still have to wait 2 years.
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I will #neveragain buy a samsung phone. If you do, you're a tool.
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I knew there was a reason I didn't post this link yesterday. Few conflicts it seems.
http://www.bgr.com/2011/02/11/full-specifications-of-galaxy-s-2-desire-hd2-desire-2-wildfire-2-leak/
Not sure which to follow but I highly doubt we are getting a dual core.
I'm pretty sure they're both 2core, the s2 and hd7desire2, but as for s2 I've heard 1.2 gig and now hearing 1.0 gig. Nice to have a choice between two 4.3 Android handsets for Tmo.
Don't blame me, blame my keyboard's autocorrection algorithm.
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I'm pretty sure they're both 2core, the s2 and hd7desire2, but as for s2 I've heard 1.2 gig and now hearing 1.0 gig. Nice to have a choice between two 4.3 Android handsets for Tmo.
Don't blame me, blame my keyboard's autocorrection algorithm.
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The 1.2 says Snapdragon.
I doubt the S2 will have a snapdragon over Exynos.
They're not going to use snapdragon processor. Why would they... they just announced their dual core processor exynos.
Galaxy s2 will have dual core..
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I will #neveragain buy a samsung phone. If you do, you're a tool.
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Neither am I. First Samsung phone and I was disappointed. Oh well.
Ugh, bigger screen but same resolution? The only way this would be acceptable is if they got rid of the pentile arrangement. Otherwise, my next phone will have qHD at the very least.
Is this the samsung infuse?
-speed demon
No its galaxy s 2
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Kubernetes said:
Ugh, bigger screen but same resolution? The only way this would be acceptable is if they got rid of the pentile arrangement. Otherwise, my next phone will have qHD at the very least.
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Hehe at least it has more subpixel than atrix
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It looks too similar to an iphone
Yeah yeah, I've seen the similar threads but they're not up to date especially with gingerbread released. I'm due for an upgrade on the 26th and want to get a new phone before college in mid August. I've posted a similar forum excluding the nexus on the gs2 forum, but I want to hear the other side. I prefer the 4" screen, but also want to root and not have motoblur, and I hear the phone lags when you do that. I realize the nexus s is single core but are dual cores that much faster with current software? I like longer battery life and an led notfier since I'm coming from a blackberry Curve. Can anyone say how the screens compare, I've heard the pentile display is terrible, but have yet to see for myself. Finally I'm told that the atrix does not have neon support, is that a difference for the average user? Thanks in advance.
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Yeah yeah, I've seen the similar threads but they're not up to date especially with gingerbread released. I'm due for an upgrade on the 26th and want to get a new phone before college in mid August. I've posted a similar forum excluding the nexus on the gs2 forum, but I want to hear the other side. I prefer the 4" screen, but also want to root and not have motoblur, and I hear the phone lags when you do that. I realize the nexus s is single core but are dual cores that much faster with current software? I like longer battery life and an led notfier since I'm coming from a blackberry Curve. Can anyone say how the screens compare, I've heard the pentile display is terrible, but have yet to see for myself. Finally I'm told that the atrix does not have neon support, is that a difference for the average user? Thanks in advance.
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I've had a nexus s and it does not lag at all, neither does my atrix. Single core or dual core it doesn't seem to make a difference to me. In my experience the atrix has better battery life. As far as the screens go that's a matter of opinion, the samoled seems more vibrant but is utterly useless in sunlight. As much as I hate BLUR, I chose the atrix over the nexus s and once we have an AOSP Rom I will have no regrets whatsoever.
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Yeah yeah, I've seen the similar threads but they're not up to date especially with gingerbread released. I'm due for an upgrade on the 26th and want to get a new phone before college in mid August. I've posted a similar forum excluding the nexus on the gs2 forum, but I want to hear the other side. I prefer the 4" screen, but also want to root and not have motoblur, and I hear the phone lags when you do that. I realize the nexus s is single core but are dual cores that much faster with current software? I like longer battery life and an led notfier since I'm coming from a blackberry Curve. Can anyone say how the screens compare, I've heard the pentile display is terrible, but have yet to see for myself. Finally I'm told that the atrix does not have neon support, is that a difference for the average user? Thanks in advance.
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I had the nexus s, it wasn't much of an improvement over my custom rommed Captivate, so I took it back. I was also looking forward to the Galaxy S2's release in America, until I got Gingerbread on my Atrix. There is no way the GS2 will be a substantial improvement over my Atrix now.
The Motorola Atrix was voted as the best phone at CES, and with Gingerbread it lives up to those accolades. Froyo and the ridiculous price of the lapdock killed this phone's initial release.
Take a look at the top results on Smartbench 2011, there is a reason Samsung delayed the GS2's release and overclocked it to 1.2ghz. Once the Atrix gets overclocked to 1.5ghz, those top results will change.
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Once the Atrix gets overclocked to 1.5ghz, those top results will change.
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So will the battery life lol
Also, does the lack of NEON support make a difference for the average user?
EDIT: reread my post, thought I didn't include the question, reread it again, realized I did.
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Also, does the lack of NEON support make a difference for the average user?
EDIT: reread my post, thought I didn't include the question, reread it again, realized I did.
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I was worried about lack of neon. But honestly it doesn't even matter at this point in time, apps don't even come close to making neon cpu make any difference whatsoever.
By the way, just got an atrix today! Found craigslist superb deal.
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I was worried about lack of neon. But honestly it doesn't even matter at this point in time, apps don't even come close to making neon cpu make any difference whatsoever.
By the way, just got an atrix today! Found craigslist superb deal.
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If you want to play normal or hi profile x264 it does.
Really annoying to have to re-encode to baseline x264. For xxxx's sake this phone can push 3D pixels like Samurai Vengeance II but can't handle HD video encoding, WTF.
I had nexus so and atrix together for two weeks. There is major performance difference between the two. Nexus s's 512 mb ram was the deal breaker for me, it was not enough. I think I'm spoiled by the 1gb ram.
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If you want to play normal or hi profile x264 it does.
Really annoying to have to re-encode to baseline x264. For xxxx's sake this phone can push 3D pixels like Samurai Vengeance II but can't handle HD video encoding, WTF.
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Saw a topic where someone played it with gingerbread, so no.
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I really like my Atrix, but I would wait and see what the next Nexus phone will bring.
Atrix ftw, i think its best phone so far for me
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Saw a topic where someone played it with gingerbread, so no.
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well thats welcome news. I'll do some research. A really time consuming thing to investigate (encode, copy to phone, see if it plays, rinse and repeat)
I own both and I prefer the Atrix.
With an AOSP ROM this phone will scream.
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Thewalrus0034 said:
Yeah yeah, I've seen the similar threads but they're not up to date especially with gingerbread released. I'm due for an upgrade on the 26th and want to get a new phone before college in mid August. I've posted a similar forum excluding the nexus on the gs2 forum, but I want to hear the other side. I prefer the 4" screen, but also want to root and not have motoblur, and I hear the phone lags when you do that. I realize the nexus s is single core but are dual cores that much faster with current software? I like longer battery life and an led notfier since I'm coming from a blackberry Curve. Can anyone say how the screens compare, I've heard the pentile display is terrible, but have yet to see for myself. Finally I'm told that the atrix does not have neon support, is that a difference for the average user? Thanks in advance.
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I would stay away from the Nexus S. Ya, it's Raw Goog but the sub-par RAM, single core chip and cheap plastic construction just aren't worth it especially on a new contract.
I'm loving my Atrix on GB, rooted, de-blurred (Titanium freeze) and running Go Launcher EX. I experience no lag, web browser is lighting fast, GPS is the best I've experienced from a phone. That's my experience and opinion. Considering the timing of your upgrade I would suggest checking the SG2 out as it may be more to your liking. Some people like Sammy HW some don't (I personally hate it, especially their damn "Chin" design philosophy).
That said, you cannot go wrong with the Atrix, it's an excellent phone. I traded in my Inspire 4G at a loss and don't regret my decision one bit.
Oh, and DL/UL speed in Houston, TX I've been averaging 3.5mb down (6 max) and 1.3mb up (2.1 max). Inspire 4G never made it over 2.5 down (1 Ghz. w/ 768mb RAM). Atrix is on par with my friend's EVO 4G (Sprint WiMax, he avgs 2-3 but has a max he's gotten of 7 once) and another friend's T-Bolt (Verizon LTE, 5-6 avg and a max of 8). And yes processor and RAM do affect your up/down as it's partially determined by the amount of data your phone can process, another reason to stay away from the S at this point.
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well thats welcome news. I'll do some research. A really time consuming thing to investigate (encode, copy to phone, see if it plays, rinse and repeat)
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Might have been my thread. I apologize, but I was wrong. Even tough performance has increased substantially (from 8-10 fps to an average of 24) when playing high profile h.264, it still isnt perfectly smooth and, for some reason, the episodes of Game of Thrones were mute for me, which indicates a continuing lack of support to audio codecs. After converting it with the Handbrake method, it worked flawlessly.
@OP
The Atrix and the SGS2 have different offerings. SGS2 has a standardly overclocked processor, a bigger, brighter screen, less weight, and a GPU accelerated browser. The Atrix has a much higher pixel density, better battery life, and a specialized game store (Nvidia Tegra Zone which, despite the lack of titles in numbers, the ones it DOES have possess highly improved graphics over standard versions).
And for many of us, it has a lapdock, which is a perfect netbook replacement if all you do is work with word, excel, and light web browsing, being lighter and having better battery life than many netbooks. Its also fun like hell to play at customizing it
I like the overall build with the Motorola Atrix, but without the GPU accelerated and NEON support, would I be at a significant hardware disadvantage for everyday use? I feel I wouldn't. Also, any complaints about the screen?
Okay. Opera provides a gpu accelerated browser that is blazing fast. The screen is really nice, but you may notice grainy greens.
Edit: oh, neon support isn't an issue, at least for me. Most of my videos can be played using moboplayer.
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The atrix also is not sized like a giant brick but weighing like a feather toy (the #1 reason I didn't go for the SGS2). Form factor wins for me. Not to mention in Australia, atrix is 150-200 dollars cheaper.
I would say though with froyo it is noticeably inferior. But that's no longer an issue, whether stock or unlock BL/custom ROM.
If you want a big screen and fast phone....sgs2, if you want sething new and try some mods atrix, if yu are a hard modder HD2
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Now that there's actual photos of the AT&T galaxy family, would anyone consider it a superior choice? I kinda like the idea of a physical keyboard but I'm used to portrait like on my blackberry.
Sorry if its a repost. So whos going to upgrade!
http://www.engadget.com/2011/09/21/...akes-its-atandt-debut-october-2nd-for-199-on/
Im not biased to any phone. I like anything new and high powered. Cant get me wrong I love my Atrix but the Galaxy S II is tempting.
i'm pretty happy with my Atrix, i think i'm gonna hold off on upgrading until a decent quad core phone comes out on the market.
Not enough of an upgrade to think about it.
The Devs have really just started to take this phone to its capabilities so worth hanging in for a while longer.
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When the SGSII came out back in... May(ish), it seems liked I should have not gotten an Atrix and waited for the SGSII to come to AT&T. the SGSII had a bigger screen, faster CPU, no Blur, no locked bootloader, and already had a pre-beta of Cyanogen out within two weeks of the phone hitting the international market.
Fast Foward to today. The Atrix has an unlocked bootloader, a *solid* beta of CM7, MIUI in the works, a bigger battery, and the performance is close to that of the SGS (in CM7 while OC'd) - in some tests it is noticeabley faster.
The SGSII also seems to have some hardware issues that have been reported. Yellowing of the screen on the left side is the most reported issue.
Now look to the future because the SGSII isn't going to come out for another two weeks. Should we have all waited to get an SGSII? No way, not IMHO. I was sitting on an iPhone 3GS for months and months after I was eligible for an upgrade, I was just waiting until something big came out or the phone died. I'll be honest, at first I did regret my Atrix purchase at times. Software versus 4.1.26 had a TON of bugs in it, 4.1.57 did too. 4.1.83 was solid, and when we got GB the phone was pretty solid. Now with CM7 I have no complaints over the phone at all, and I'm glad I didn't suffer with my iPhone 3GS for the last 7 months (I bougt the Atrix on release day) waiting for the SGSII after returning the Atrix to wait for the SGSII.
If I had waited this long for the SGSII with my iPhone 3GS, I would likely pass up the SGSII and wait for more info on the Nexus Prime.
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One thing I don't miss going from my captivate to atrix is in the power usage menu "display" being like 95%. I don't know why they say SAMOLED use less power. I know the screen on the sgs and sgs2 is different but they're close enough IMO. Also after all the BS with GPS and poor update from Samsung I don't know if I could buy another. As far as specs....IMO I don't think it's worth the upgrade the specs are really similar. The only reason I might be tempted is for the dev support.
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as someone who has had both i can assure you the atrix is a much more all-around solid piece of hardware.
like reported above the screen on the SGSii may be bigger but it has its issues (yellow left on most handsets and battery consumption).
the battery is simply way worse then atrix.
and what got to me the most about going back to the atrix was the sound quality, it was simply horrendous, especially for a high-end phone like that.
the sound chip on it is sub-par compared to the original SGS even, with high end headphones i was getting distortions, low volume, and very un-even sound, to anyone who wants to listen to music on his phone this one simply kills the deal.
atrix has a very very good audio experience compared.
same goes for call quality.
and the phone doesnt even have a led for notifications.
also doesnt have an hdmi-out without you buying some special cable adapter.
what does seem to be on its side is a huge dev base working on it and realeasing things daily but the atrix is starting to catch up... just give it some time.
either way upgrading from a atrix to a galaxy 2 is pretty stupid, except for a bit larger screen you really dont get anything in return for all that cash.
i'd wait atleast another year before ditching the atrix. theres simply nothing today that it cant handle so why buy another "future proof" phone when your current one is still "future proof"
Definitely sticking with my atrix <3
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It appears to have a lot of dev support, but how many of those ROM's are the exact same thing with a different theme? That's the way the Captivate was until CM7 dropped...everything was the same.
I'll stick with the Atrix.
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... the screen on the SGSII is so lustworthy... it oozes awesomeness. Other then that --- Atrix is better IMO.
i want both.
iphone5 too if its nice.
i just upgraded this july so no sgsII for me. the galaxy was going to be my upgrade, but it just took too long to come out. also, it's not gonna be the latest and greatest anymore like it would've been when it came out internationally, the sgsIII will probably be out internationally in 6 months since most phone lines get upgraded yearly.
my friend mentioned the PS Vita yesterday and i'm doing research on that to see if it has enough functions to become a phone for me.
s1mpd1ddy said:
... the screen on the SGSII is so lustworthy... it oozes awesomeness. Other then that --- Atrix is better IMO.
i want both.
iphone5 too if its nice.
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I'd rather have an atrix with an average screen than have a SAMOLED that destroys my battery. I have an upgrade available and being 100% honest I'm waiting for a new BB QNX mobile phone to drop next year. The new 9810 with os7 was actually a pretty big step forward in speed and functionality and supposedly QNX will be able to run Android apps as well. Not saying it's gonna be the king of phones but it looks pretty cool.
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My wife is getting it in October, about 2 weeks after it comes out. She is already in love with it and the fact that we are getting the NFC enabled version made her happier. She's almost as big a nerd as I am. (I'm not allowed to touch it, she wants to do everything on her own)
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isn't the sgs2 screen still 800 x 480?
I have the infuse plus an atrix, while the screen on the infuse is so sexy,, the atrix for me has the total package,, the sgs2 for me is not that much of a upgrade from my atrix, even the infuse for that matter, sure it has godly specs, but in real world usage, even my old ass dinc still get the job done,,
I dont like where the smartphone market is heading.. things need to slow back down. alittle,, before you know it, the atrix 3 will be out 3 months after the atrix 2 at the end of the year, lol
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isn't the sgs2 screen still 800 x 480?
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It is. I wouldn't be able to go to the lower resolution.
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It is. I wouldn't be able to go to the lower resolution.
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yeah i forgot about that lower rez -- UGH -- why put it out at a lower rez then qHD? COME ON SAMMY.
The newer Super AMOLED Plus displays have more sub-pixels and they do not use pentile anymore which also helps eliminate the "grainy" look. I would still like to see qHD but I don't think there is going to be much to complain about on these screens.
http://www.intomobile.com/2011/02/2...s-than-previous-amoled-screens-better-colors/
http://www.oled-info.com/super-amoled-plus-resolution-explained
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yeah i forgot about that lower rez -- UGH -- why put it out at a lower rez then qHD? COME ON SAMMY.
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exactly why i love the screen on my infuse.. but the atrix for everything else, lol
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It appears to have a lot of dev support, but how many of those ROM's are the exact same thing with a different theme? That's the way the Captivate was until CM7 dropped...everything was the same.
I'll stick with the Atrix.
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Not all the same - they had different themes!
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The newer Super AMOLED Plus displays have more sub-pixels and they do not use pentile anymore which also helps eliminate the "grainy" look. I would still like to see qHD but I don't think there is going to be much to complain about on these screens.
http://www.intomobile.com/2011/02/2...s-than-previous-amoled-screens-better-colors/
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I owned an Infuse and loved the screen and the colors, but I would rather have a higher resolution screen. I find the lower resolution something to complain about, although it isn't that big of a deal for some people.
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Pictures of a new HTC device running Ice Cream Sandwich and Sense 4.0 were leaked. The device is heading for Verizon and it will have LTE capabilities!
Check out the source for pics of the new device running sense 4.0.
Source
This might be a true successor to the original Droid Incredible. Some sites are saying AMOLED, so that would be nice. I'm not a fan of SLCD. Now, if only they can do something about battery life. That's the reason I didn't go to Rezound (oh, and the fact that the phone was way too thick in the first place).
I'm really torn. I like HTC Sense (Yeah, I guess I'm in the minority) but the battery on the Razr Maxx makes me want to overlook that I am not a fan of Moto's UI as much and their screen issues. If by some miracle HTC has addressed battery size/life, I think this will be my next phone.
Looks nice and all, but I'm pretty reluctant to purchase another snapdragon phone. Sense can be cool but future-proofing is cooler. As we all know from our Adreno 200 woes, snapdragon products are not future-proof and qualcomm has made no effort to collaborate with the community to bring us updated video drivers or open source userspace drivers. I'm voting with my wallet on this one.
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I'm buyin this !!!
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I want the Incredible 3 to be the same size as the original. I don't want/need a ginourmous screen. I just want a perfect size device, aka the original, with updated guts. Thanks.
I want a big phone bigger than iPad lol (that's a little to big but u get my point )
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Here's what this phone's gotta have for me to get one: a Qualcomm Snapdragon S4 chipset, an HD screen that is NOT pentile, and a battery that approaches 2000 mAh.
I would also like to be able to turn Sense off and go plain vanilla, or I'd like to use a launcher of my choice.
I've been eligible for an upgrade since January 4th. It's hard holding off until MWC and CTIA... If I don't see anything I like, it will be an LG Spectrum for me.
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Yea if I were u I would wait for a really good and fast phone to come out
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I just don't know anymore...by the time I upgrade Jellybean will be in full force so..yeah
I only did a 1 year (remember those) upgrade when I got my Incredible.. and I got it day 1...
There has been nothing yet to want me to change to a new phone...
What I want: CDMA / GSM / LTE on 1 chip (which should be in phones by end of year - will definitely help battery life if everything was on one)... Super Amoled.... 4 inch Screen (slightly bigger than the Incredible.. but not huge like the others. I have big hands.. really big.. but its a phone.. not a tablet I want)... GREAT camera... And long battery life (hopefully fixed with my first wish)...
I'm not an Android fanboy.. or an iOS fanboy.. I just want a phone to match what I want.
Hmmm... I'll probably miss my optical track "ball". I rarely use it but comes in handy for editing.
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i will be getting this if i stay on vzw. only if they let me keep data.
why did they discontinue unlimited data ?
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because they were loosing money.... lol
I thought I heard VZW is going to offer family data plans. Data limited plans I'm sure.
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I want the Incredible 3 to be the same size as the original. I don't want/need a ginourmous screen. I just want a perfect size device, aka the original, with updated guts. Thanks.
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I couldn't agree with you more. That's one of the main reasons that I have upgraded my device (besides the fact I love my Dinc), if I can barely fit it in my pocket, that is a problem.
Looks good but from the pics I saw of the sgs3 I might get a Samsung next. 12mp cam, tegra 3, and ics sound great
I agree
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Looks good but from the pics I saw of the sgs3 I might get a Samsung next. 12mp cam, tegra 3, and ics sound great
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I just want to see Verizon's line of phones for this summer so I can make an informed decision. Rumors are great but the one thing not mentioned is becoming more important, battery capacity.
Looks huge. Why have all the companies gotten caught up in a screen size pissing contest? We need another RAZR that is thin AND small. Not like the current one, which is closer to a machete than a razor.
My upgrade is in october, but I'm fairly certain I could convince sprint to cut me some slack. Basically, for the past year or so I've used CM7 on my Evo. I like the full customization available in a stock rom. I'm sure CM9 will be available for both of the phones I'm considering at some point, but that will kill the sense features like the amazing new camera which I feel like I need (most of my photos are in doors in low light situations). The evo seems to have better specs over all, bigger screen, off screen buttons (positive), better screen, sexier more resilient built, and I could always use a custom launcher to get my customization on.
The main thing I think I'm missing with both phones are the quick widgets from CM7 - where you pull down the notification bar and there are some quick settings buttons. I really, really like and feel like I need that. Do either phones have that built in? I know the evo will last me longer and be the same price with upgrade. Any tips? Thanks.
Ice Cream Sandwich provides the quick widgets/settings I believe by default. So I think both phones will have that.
Can anyone verify that to be true? Unless that only works with pure ICS, in which case you should get the Nexus. I'm definitely going with the EVO though, those hardware specs are outstanding. And it is pretty sexy too.
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If my memory serves me right, I do not believe that the Galaxy Nexus has Quick Settings enabled in the drop-down notification bar. Sense 4.0, it has ditched the Quick Settings thing too, unfortunately, according to screenshots I've seen.
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Software:
Galaxy Nexus - Vanilla ICS.
LTEvo - ICS, Sense 4.0 - Sense 4.0 review here.
Winner: LTEvo. I do like the few tweaks that HTC has included with Sense 4.0 and it does not appear to be extremely heavy.
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Build Quality:
Galaxy Nexus - Plastic. It feels a little awkward to hold in one hand and reach across the screen.
LTEvo - Black aluminum and plastic. Reviews say that it is "svelte" and fits well in the hand.
Winner: LTEvo. However, I do wish the whole body was aluminum with the Micro Arc Oxidation treatment (One S). Or at least the plastic was replaced with polycarbonate (One X). The Galaxy Nexus is a bit awkward in the hand and it's fully plastic.
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Processor:
Galaxy Nexus - 1.2 GHz TI OMAP 4460 (dual-core, Cortex-A9, 45nm)
LTEvo - 1.5 GHz Qualcomm MSM8960 "Krait" "S4" (dual-core, Cortex-A15, 28nm), integrated LTE
Winner: LTEvo. The Krait S4 chip is a beast from what I seen, and can handle anything thrown at it. Cortext-A15 and 28nm = less heat, less battery usage. The OMAP is simply aging.
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Other Internals:
Galaxy Nexus - PowerVR SGX540 GPU, 1 GB RAM
LTEvo - Adreno 225 GPU, 1 GB RAM
Winner: LTEvo. The PowerVR the Nexus packs is aged (hint: it's the same one as the one in the OG Galaxy S). I do wish the LTEvo had the Adreno 320 GPU, but I'm sure the 225 can handle well.
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Screen:
Galaxy Nexus - 4.65" Super Amoled Screen, PenTile, 720p resolution, 316 ppi (claimed), 200 ppi (realistic - PenTile)
LTEvo - 4.7" Super LCD 2 Screen, non-PenTile, 720p resolution, 312 ppi
Winner: LTEvo. Non-PenTile, larger screen? That 4.65" on the Galaxy Nexus includes the on-screen "softkeys" while the 4.7" on the LTEvo does not.
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Storage:
Galaxy Nexus - 32 GB internal, no microSD slot
LTEvo - 16 GB internal, microSD slot
Winner: LTEvo. Expandable storage = win. Yes, you can use Dropbox and such, but that is online storage.
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Battery:
Galaxy Nexus - 1850 mAh, removable
LTEvo - 2000 mAh, non-removable
Winner: Galaxy Nexus. While the LTEvo has the larger battery, it is non-removable. While the Galaxy Nexus has a smaller battery, it is removable, giving you the option of an extended battery.
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Camera:
Galaxy Nexus -
5 MP rear, 1080p recording @ 24 fps, single flash
1.3 MP front, 720p recording @30 fps
LTEvo -
8 MP rear, 1080p recording @ 30 fps, single flash, backside illumination, dedicated ImageChip
1.3 MP front, 720p recording @ ? fps
Winner: LTEvo. The Galaxy Nexus camera is obviously lacking.
How much will the LTEvo cost and when is it available?
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How much will the LTEvo cost and when is it available?
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199 with a two year agreement
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How do you plan on getting the early upgrade from sprint? I'm in the exact same boat as you and I'm itching to upgrade...
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How do you plan on getting the early upgrade from sprint? I'm in the exact same boat as you and I'm itching to upgrade...
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Buy up program, Depending on how far out from your upgrade you are and how your account standing is.
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Buy up program, Depending on how far out from your upgrade you are and how your account standing is.
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So you pay the $100 etf (assuming four months away from an upgrade) and then get a subsidy priced phone?
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The LTEVO is the better choice, IMO. Here's why:
Screen - same resolution but Galaxy Nexus has AMOLED and LTEVO has SLCD2
CPU - Galaxy Nexus has an "old" TI 1.2; LTEVO has the new Snapdragon S4
Camera - Galaxy Nexus 5 MP and it sucks (read the many reviews around the web); HTC 8MP with dedicated processor is amazing
Storage - Galaxy Nexus does not support removable storage; LTEVO does (which is actually one of the few things it has from its cousin, the HTC ONE X).
To sum it all up, the Galaxy Nexus is an older phone. Get the LTEVO.
I have/had a crap ton of phones. My favorite Android phones thus far have been the N1 and NS4G. Why? Because it was updated immediately, and even when it wasn't first in line, it still ran Custom ROMs very smoothly with everything working because of AOSP and more open drivers.
The NS4G was/is a old phone and I choose it over the GS2 (which I had sitting on my desk unused) as my main android phone. Hell, with ICS it was faster, but above all, it was always relevant. The GS2 was exciting for about 1-2 months and now its irrelevant. The One X / EVO LTE will be the same. Jellybean will be announced soon, the GN will be relevant and the excitement over the new shiny phones will die down and their communities will be "enjoying" half working ROMs.
Many won't agree with me but I'd never recommend anyone a non Nexus phone. Software is key, especially when we're running low demanding mobile apps.
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I have/had a crap ton of phones. My favorite Android phones thus far have been the N1 and NS4G. Why? Because it was updated immediately, and even when it wasn't first in line, it still ran Custom ROMs very smoothly with everything working because of AOSP and more open drivers.
The NS4G was/is a old phone and I choose it over the GS2 (which I had sitting on my desk unused) as my main android phone. Hell, with ICS it was faster, but above all, it was always relevant. The GS2 was exciting for about 1-2 months and now its irrelevant. The One X / EVO LTE will be the same. Jellybean will be announced soon, the GN will be relevant and the excitement over the new shiny phones will die down and their communities will be "enjoying" half working ROMs.
Many won't agree with me but I'd never recommend anyone a non Nexus phone. Software is key, especially when we're running low demanding mobile apps.
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Yeah I'll go ahead and be the first to completely disagree there. I will always choose hardware over software when choosing a phone. I mean, look what the EVO 4G is now? My phone still outdoes almost every phone I see in the public. It isn't a Nexus, yet has phenomenal development, and these "half working" ROMs are superior to the actual Google releases in speed and battery life, so unless you are so camera dependent that you can't live with a temporary lack of camera usage, you're golden.
And as far as Jelly Bean, I anticipated that being a small upgrade anyway, like iPhone 4 to 4s. ICS is barely rolling out, no way JB makes a huge splash in quarter 4. And I'm sure our amazing devs who have made the longevity of this phone much higher than intended by HTC will do an equally incredible job on the LTE.
So no, I will take my EVO LTE over the dated Nexus. No offense, just my opinion.
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Yeah I'll go ahead and be the first to completely disagree there. I will always choose hardware over software when choosing a phone. I mean, look what the EVO 4G is now? My phone still outdoes almost every phone I see in the public. It isn't a Nexus, yet has phenomenal development, and these "half working" ROMs are superior to the actual Google releases in speed and battery life, so unless you are so camera dependent that you can't live with a temporary lack of camera usage, you're golden.
And as far as Jelly Bean, I anticipated that being a small upgrade anyway, like iPhone 4 to 4s. ICS is barely rolling out, no way JB makes a huge splash in quarter 4. And I'm sure our amazing devs who have made the longevity of this phone much higher than intended by HTC will do an equally incredible job on the LTE.
So no, I will take my EVO LTE over the dated Nexus. No offense, just my opinion.
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Huh. I have a old EVO 4G lying around. I loaded a ICS rom on it about 5 weeks ago out of curiosity. It ran like a absolute dog. Why? No GPU acceleration. The 4G always had a horrible GPU, even on day 1, but WP7 proved that it was capable of more. That said, the fault was in the software/drivers. A problem Nexus devices don't suffer as much from.
If we put the NS and EVO 4G side by side, it's a no contest. Hell, up until Sunday I choose the NS4G over my Epic 4G Touch. I have no doubt that I'll feel the same about the next super phone I buy on impulse (vs the GN). It just isn't worth it, he'll I buy new phones almost every 2-3 months and I still fall back to the Nexus. If my ATT N1 ran on Sprint (or If the iPhone never existed) my EVO would have stayed in the box way back when. If you own as many gadgets as I do you'd see the same.
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Huh. I have a old EVO 4G lying around. I loaded a ICS rom on it about 5 weeks ago out of curiosity. It ran like a absolute dog. Why? No GPU acceleration. The 4G always had a horrible GPU, even on day 1, but WP7 proved that it was capable of more. That said, the fault was in the software/drivers. A problem Nexus devices don't suffer as much from.
If we put the NS and EVO 4G side by side, it's a no contest. Hell, up until Sunday I choose the NS4G over my Epic 4G Touch. I have no doubt that I'll feel the same about the next super phone I buy on impulse (vs the GN). It just isn't worth it, he'll I buy new phones almost every 2-3 months and I still fall back to the Nexus. If my ATT N1 ran on Sprint (or If the iPhone never existed) my EVO would have stayed in the box way back when. If you own as many gadgets as I do you'd see the same.
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But that was 5 weeks ago.
If I was you I would go to the store and try both of them out and see which one you like best. I'm going for the EVO because I'm one of those Sense fans.
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And If they dont cut you any slack by October. I'll would wait until the next generation. The Nexus would probably be out in a month or two. Every manufacture flagship would be right around the corner.
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Huh. I have a old EVO 4G lying around. I loaded a ICS rom on it about 5 weeks ago out of curiosity. It ran like a absolute dog. Why? No GPU acceleration. The 4G always had a horrible GPU, even on day 1, but WP7 proved that it was capable of more. That said, the fault was in the software/drivers. A problem Nexus devices don't suffer as much from.
If we put the NS and EVO 4G side by side, it's a no contest. Hell, up until Sunday I choose the NS4G over my Epic 4G Touch. I have no doubt that I'll feel the same about the next super phone I buy on impulse (vs the GN). It just isn't worth it, he'll I buy new phones almost every 2-3 months and I still fall back to the Nexus. If my ATT N1 ran on Sprint (or If the iPhone never existed) my EVO would have stayed in the box way back when. If you own as many gadgets as I do you'd see the same.
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My phone runs like a dog on steroids man. AOKP and Deck are doing AMAZING work. Not sure what you attempted. But two each his own. I've played with many phones, although not owned them, so I have some idea what's out there. I'll take my EVO 4G LTE for build quality, hardware, looks, camera, camera button, kickstand, etc. No competition for me. And honestly, Sense 4.0 looks quite nice.
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Well, has it changed? Doubt it, but that's besides the point. The Nexus S was running a HW accelerated ICS build since the SDK port. The SDK port. That was a long, long time ago.
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Well, has it changed? Doubt it, but that's besides the point. The Nexus S was running a HW accelerated ICS build since the SDK port. The SDK port. That was a long, long time ago.
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Of course its change. Its way faster and smoother than it was. Development is still very good for this phone. I do see what you saying with the developent of the Nexus devices. AOSP always will run better with a Nexus device and with google being open source its easier for devs or at least I would assume it is. If software isnt the biggest deal for him than the easy choice would be the EVO based on hardware alone. That should be expected for a phone launching 6 months later.
Here, read this:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5559/...mance-preview-msm8960-adreno-225-benchmarks/2
Interesting look at the amazing performance of the new processor. Blows everything out of the water including Nexus, iPhone, etc.
I went with the nexus. Sprint gave me the upgrade and I'm paying 145 total
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I went with the nexus. Sprint gave me the upgrade and I'm paying 145 total
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Thanks for the update! Anything in particular influence you to make that decision other than the price? I only ask since many will be making a similar decision now.
Also, first impressions of phone? I'm sure it's awesome, but anything other than that?
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I went with the nexus. Sprint gave me the upgrade and I'm paying 145 total
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How'd you get it for 145?! The upgrade price was 199 I thought. cuz I am kinda interested in it. Tried to go look at one today, but ran out of time.
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